/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56424901
first for rejecting bussy

Wage slavery broke my spirit. All I want is financial freedom.

>>56424901
>oil crashing
>vix crashing
>yields crashing
enjoy +5% this week on sp500

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than buying long-term treasuries. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are loaning your money to the Federal government for at least two years solely so they can give it to Ukraine and Israel. All the hard work you put into getting your money - wageslaving, making profitable trades, not buying too many funkopops, denying yourself avocado toast, avoiding Jeet scams on /biz/. All of it has one simple result: your money gets LOWER interest rates and is held up for longer than it would be in shorter term bonds and bills. Saved the perfect sum? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random NEET getting gibbs who had nothing to do with the way you saved your money, who gets paid by the Feds. You get fucked by high inflation every month. Ukraine, Israel, and Monstanto get the benefits of your money that came from your earnings. As an investor who buys long-term treasuries, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least two years of your investment simply to raise a sum for other people to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically.

thanks for playing. House always wins.

Sharpening my kitchen knife, today lads. Whetstone, strop, the whole bit.

>>56424930
very nice anon. actually did my whole set last weekend.

>>56424917
I did the math and you can get in my Europoor cunt (27.5% taxes) ca 2.6% with bonds that are aa3-rated or better, after taxes and after compensating for inflation.
Not good not terrible. 2.5% to 3% before taxes is considered a safe and inflation resistant withdrawal rate for a stock portfolio as well, but of course there is a bigger upside.

>>56424930
Have fun Anon, I used to sharpen knives in my day as well. Take care to not cut yourself after making it razor-sharp.

Turkey has announced that it's going to intervene in Gaza in 24 hours if there isn't a ceasefire. This is how WWI started, it's fucking OVER.

>>56424977
Sweet. Let's fucking go.

>>56424977
This is what the West gets for not killing all the jews.

>>56424901
>Harden your heart, oh, Bobo
>Increase your attacks
Increase your praises to Christ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4x83NmFvpY
I always listen to this Egyptian Christian song when I wan't to get into a positive mood.
It is better to put yourself into a positive mood before picking stocks to invest in.

>>56424977
Any short ETFs for turkish stocks?

>>56424914
Shit is going to drop and drop hard. There is no reason for a pump this week.

>>56425020
see >>56424210

>>56425032
lol none of that is true. oil is up, VIX is up, yields pulled back for 1 day

>>56424977
Seeing no such news anywhere. What's your source?

>>56424977
Sauce?

>>56425050
oil is going to crash because the us government has taken official policy of getting it to crash before the election, part of which was removing sanctions from venezuela, vix is dumping and yields will crash officially when j pow confirms no more hikes this week and all that money will flood into the market. Thanks for playing though, you must be one of the $100b in retail short positions right that are going to have the last $50 squeezed out of your robinhood account

>>56424948
>Not good not terrible. 2.5% to 3% before taxes
Seems fucking terrible desu. Compounding at 2.5% pre-tax sounds like a cauchemar to me.

It's a comfy fall college football Saturday. What is everyone eating for dinner tonight? I'm making a giant pot of chili. I'm using hot sausage in place of ground beef because one anon here suggested it months ago.

>>56424957
>Take care to not cut yourself after making it razor-sharp
Done! I don't go for razor with my kitchen knives. If I do that angle it's just going to get ruined the second I slice in to an potato. Knife sharpening autists are pretty silly about this. "No no no that's not the theoretically maximum possible sharpness!" they say, before they use their boutique knives to open amazon boxes or whatever.
>>56424977
I hope for escalation but it never seems to happen. Turmoil pleases my portfolio lines especially in proximity to oil fields.

>>56425071
>oil is going to crash because the us government has taken official policy of getting it to crash before the election, part of which was removing sanctions from venezuela,
Yes, on the one hand there's that.

On the other hand, there's the fact that the administration has a nearly perfect record of failure. $3/gallon gas on election day is about as likely as $10/gallon.

>>56425071
US doesn't matter. OPEC is in control. Get with the times gramps. Biden's lowballing and Venezuela droplets also don't matter

>>56425092
Egg and cheese sandwiches.

>>56425092
You could use some less food

>>56425092
>I'm using hot sausage in place of ground beef because one anon here suggested it months ago.
If you ever make lasagne do this same substitution for that. Hot italian snausages. Tastes amazing.

>>56425071
i'm not shorting anything. i actually opened up 2 new long positions on friday. I am 3% equities and 97% money market cash

i'm just disagreeing with you. VIX is not crashing at all, it went up last week. yields (10YR) went up 4/5 days and was flat for day 5. oil went up 4/5 days last week. what you are saying is just factually incorrect

>>56425071
Removing sanctions from Venzeula really won't affect the price of oil because they were already selling that oil to the market just on a discount. Now they get to benefit more from profits/ease of chartering/trade partners. In addition, Venzeula would take a decade or more to ramp production. Their entire oil sector is South Africa Eksom tier maintennace.

>>56425053
>>56425054
https://greekcitytimes.com/2023/10/22/turkish-fm-fidan-turkey-palestinians/

>>56425092
It was gonna be beef stew, but I ate the last of it for lunch. Now I know how the Donner party felt.

>>56425114
You're trying to reason with the dude who thinks energy demand is trending down. He's married to his bear trade and ignores facts that contradict his bias

>>56425118
Where's the 24 hours part? All I'm seeing is empty political jawboning. >muh peace and >muh poor victims

>>56425123
He should take a trip to Venezuela to see the "ramping up" of production with his own eyes if he can afford it.

>>56425118
Nothing about any intent of military intervention in this article

>>56425107
Not a bad choice
>>56425109
Come say that to my face. We will wrestle and see who gets to make those opinions. Winner takes bussy. I only wrestle naked and oiled.
>>56425111
Kino
>>56425119
Make some chili like me

>>56425143
I can literally snap you in half, fat hands

>>56425082
You are probably underestimating inflation. if you invest 100k and get 100k back in 30 years, you actually only get 55k back. So you have to put aside 125€ a month to compensate for inflation, which cuts deep into your returns.

Bros I think I had too much hot cocoa...
This is not a good omen for futures tomorrow

>>56425123
i think he's just a bear on oil, but a bull on stocks. which in my opinion is backwards. oil is bullish, stocks are bearish outside of the top 7

>>56425182
He literally claimed energy demand is going down last thread. Ignored facts. Basically married to his trade.

>>56425118
>>56424977
>I like to make things up, the posts
cool

>>56425082
>>56425169
As for stocks there is volatility, so constant withdrawals (unlike constant-percentage) will kill you in weak times, if they are too high.

>>56425169
>You are probably underestimating inflation.
Yeah exactly so what's the point of buying bonds that yield 2.5% pre-tax?

>>56424914
>implying Saturday futures are relevant

>>56425191
Misunderstanding: 2.5-3% for a stock portfolio. The bonds I'm talking about have somewhere between 5 (isle of man province) and 7 (energy and banking companies) - those collapse to 2.6%ish AFTER you apply taxes and inflation.

>>56424977
There is also this

>>56425203
>Misunderstanding: 2.5-3% for a stock portfolio.
Well the stocks in my portfolio are returning multiples of that, so even the 2.6% after tax compensated for inflation company bonds seems terrible to me.

>>56424948
i can get 3% in 3 weeks by simply selling put options with the wheel strategy

>>56425123
>He's married to his bear trade
No, worse. He has no oil position. He is just fishing for attention. Can we collectively decide to completely ignore him?

>>56425216
>returning multiples of that
But are you confident enough that you would plan your retirment arount that?
The 2.5 to 3% withdrawal is basically what I worked out with cfiresim, using historical data.
I guess 4% variable of current or 3% of the starting portfolio as a floor works as well, but I would not push it beyond that.

>>56424977
>>56425204
>two more weeks!!!
really though we all know nothing ever happens

>>56425160
You fucking wish

>>56425235
CON vs DEX

>>56424977
nothing will happen, you faggot. gonna eat some pork, just to spite you turk roaches.

>>56425222
So 6x every 5 years? Not bad.

>>56425233
>But are you confident enough that you would plan your retirment arount that?
Yeah I'm confident In my strategy I buy undervalued companies, and sell them at or above fair value.

>>56425246
probably not, you can get assigned with a bad average price some day and have to sell calls, which is harder. but i made some good cash in the last months. i can only recommend. there is some long haired boomer shilling it on youtube, explaining it quite well with air travel stocks and KO

>>56425222

>>56425241
Hamchads will inherit the earth

>>56425268
cope more, loser

>>56425269
he’s just on a bulk as a natty :)

two points. yes south america has so much corruption their govs cant help but ruin their own economies, take a look at argentina which has everything it needs to become the powerhouse of south america but it cant and wont because its corrupt as fuck. having said that venzuela does have a history of oil production and exporting obama paid for it by removing sanctions. as shitty as it might be there now that infrastructure is still there

new to thinkorswim I had added my schwab account and all seemed like it was working. i could see the accounts in tos but when I launched it a few minutes ago, it is different. in the top left where you click accounts, there's nothing there.
also the "on demand" button in the top right has disappeared.

There are no other instances open, and I have tried relaunching.

I must've pressed something but I'm not seeing any buttons?

>>56424977
I've been seeing a huge increase in tranny force recruiting signs and advertisements lately.

stop trying to make it happen. its never going to happen
>Turkey’s president hasn’t threatened to intervene in the Israel-Hamas war. He is being misquoted

bros, I saw that nvidias new ai chips are not going to be sold in china.
Does this mean IBMs chips can be sold in China? I feel like these ai chips are drug companies playing the FTC approval lottery to sell chips to china.

Never forget what (((they))) took from us . The. 90's were comfy.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=LRt6TdSvHag&si=rO5sgGUQbw8rjZ3b

>>56425501
>comfy
>nigger shit
Why are americans like this?

>>56425501

>>56425501
of all the tupic songs, this one is dogshit

>>56425562
>t. poorfag not from california flyover

>>56425501
DALE A TU CUERPO ALEGRÍA MACARENA
QUE TU CUERPO ES PA' DARLE ALEGRÍA Y COSA BUENA
DALE A TU CUERPO ALEGRÍA, MACARENA
HEY MACARENA AY

https://youtu.be/zWaymcVmJ-A

>>56425501
Come on, the '90s was amazing. WTF is that shit? I meant a song. A real song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxKWTzr-k6s

>>56425540
Would rather have niggies listening to tupac vs whatever dogshit they're playing on the radio today

>>56425615
banger

>>56425269
URANIUM KINGS will inherit the earth.

>>56425381
They do maint on the weekends, so some features may not be available.

>>56425501
nigger

I want to be gang raped by giant nigger dicks

Guys, somethng just came into my mind... Funnily enough this was also posted >>56424917


You borrow money to the state. This state does whatever it wants to do with the borrowed money. For that you are rewarded with interest. This interest is then TAXED by the very being, that you borrowed money to. WTF?

you niggers have no taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0mv-6_KBEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kjlcFjZJMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICBNGxxn5Yw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1Ihy4wsTQo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NiH8XUpbkw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9TtuRMoXVw

>>56425711
Some bonds have tax exemption for that reason. Especially local ones like municipal or state.

>>56425734
Not in europe. And there is risk of double taxation (italy, poland, hungary) which is why I only buy spain, greece and romania. Greece was uprated on friday evening by S&P. Speculated on that, but invested not very much money into it, because I expect yields in EU to rise higher in a few months.

>>56425734
France and UK also no double taxation. But buying french bonds....

>>56425756
Oh? Sorry to hear it. One advantage of USA I guess. Wishing you good luck navigating that anon.

>>56425775
Thanks. But I still get taxed by the country I reside. And as you stated there are some excemptions. And that's the thing. You owe money to the being that taxes you on the gains you get for owing it money. A little bizarre.

>>56425756
>which is why I only buy spain, greece and romania
Are you retarded? Why would someone buy and hold a long-duration sovereign bond Anno Domini 2023?

>>56425143
Rocker has really let himself go

>>56425808
Hold? They are my countertrade while shorting EU. If market goes up, the value of my bonds increases and I can sell them. If market goes down, value also decreases but I make a lot more money shorting and I still get interest. All the bonds are +4,5% yield and more. I expect inflation to come down, although not yet. The risk I fear more is the ECB lowering rates and then hiking them maybe even higher in an attempt to change the monetary police from 0% interest to +5% as in the 80s. Then my bonds will be a loss. But because I also short I'll profit probably more from that. I see it more as a hedge as I'm not willing to buy stocks (yet, if at all).

>>56425071
>oil is going to crash because the same clown government that openly declared it will pay $79/barrel, putting a floor under the current price of $88/barrel, is "allowing" a foreign country that they cannot possibly invade -- despite that place being a completely failed state -- to produce oil, oil that probably won't be for sale to said clown government anyway
>the clowns have storage space for 750 million barrels. they just emptied half of it at prices below $65/barrel
oh no i'm quakin' in mah boots

>>56425826
>If market goes up, the value of my bonds increases
You shouldn't assume this so casually. We can have bullish stock market and high rates at the same time.

>All the bonds are +4,5% yield and more
Inflation right now is about 9% anon. More in the eu shitcountries you mentioned earlier.

>>56424917
this is an excellent post

>>56425848
That is true. It can happen that yields go higher and the stock market goes higher. But for the time there is an inverted correlation.

Inflation is not 9%. I know the y/y effect suppresses it and in a few months inflation might increase, but I don't expect it, even in the EU to go above 6 or rather 7% again. The romanian ones are all above 6,5%. Greek and spanish lower but I bought those rather for trading.

Natgas doesn't look like it is going to explode again. Oil is "ok" for currently. October CPI will probably be soft because of 2022 October Oil being high. Same for November. December CPI might look different, but that depends on where Oil will be in december.

Don't misunderstand me, I don't attribute lower inflation to the central banks.

>>56425711
have you ever considered that you can buy a bond or other fixed-income instrument after it has depreciated from par, with the expectation that it will mature and pay in full?
do you know what a cumulative dividend is?

I'm looking to start a call farm in the next year to toy with my money a bit

Im getting tired of vanguard and will actively use the money to fund antinigger action in america, namely genetrification of nig neighborhoods. Give me some good options

(\__/)
(•ㅅ•)
/ づ”

Now that we need more money to fund middle east and slavic wars,

Is it possible that the Pebble Mine will happen?

>>56425883
No, the goal of the Biden administration is to destroy America.

>>56425879
I don't fully understand your question. Most bonds I bought are below par. What has this to do with the question why they are being taxed?

>>56425540
You wouldn't get it. 90's was the ATH of American race relations due to economic prosperity. When everything's a party, why not invite everyone? Fast forward to 2008 and everyone's looking at the metaphorical last slice of pizza in the fridge and realizing they'll need to slug it out among races/genders/whatever to see who gets it. That slugging it out brings us to where we are now. But some of us remember the time before the slugging it out.

>>56425916
And this justifies having a culture centred around niggers because...?

>>56425711
You lend money to the state prolonging it's existence and subjecting yourself to income taxes, sales taxes, capital gains taxes, dividend taxes, tariffs, excise taxes, property taxes etc... For that you're rewarded with interest which is taxed.
>>56425615
I'm jamming!

>>56425908
well my fine young friend, the difference in those two figures is a Capital Gain, not Investment Income.
these are each usually subject to taxation and sometimes at different rates. the buyer's hurdle rate is either built into coupons, or, the bonds just don't sell at par. it's simply easier that way. the difference gets made up in the market instead of the taxing authority having to keep track of all those potential exemptions.
as the bond changes hands, each holder makes their own capital gain (or loss) and similarly they receive part or all of the coupon payments, each their own income to declare.
this might result in less than the minimum taxable amount of income for a particular year, sometimes there are carve-outs in tax rules for military veterans, elderly, etc.
it's all about 1) the market action, which makes your issues desirable to buyers worldwide and 2) preferential treatment

>>56425501
John, I would prefer you not post nigger (((music))) ever again. The music of vermin should never be played. May I recommend Bach or Mozart?

>>56425916
>90's was the ATH of American race relations due to economic prosperity.
actually that was the 1950s. the 90s wasn't as bad as the decades prior but it wasn't good either. the shit you're referring to was largely manufactured by the media and music industry.

>>56425981
So you tax the interest payments differently from the money you receive back in the end if you bought bonds below par? With differently I mean at different rates, but also naming them different (capital gain/investment income)

what is a good handgun? (for self-defense)

>>56426012
I prefer a steel frame. But polymer works just as fine.

>>56426012
in the year 2023 just about anything name brand. personally I'm a Walther/Sig enthusiast, but I wouldn't hesitate to use a glock, FN, KH, etc. see if you can try some out at a rental range or some friends who own them.

I'm all alone. Hope your Saturday night is good anon.

>>56426072
>I'm all alone.
We all are.

Can someone redpill me on CLF

>>56426034
why? aesthetics?
>>56426068
anything to avoid?

how many barriers are there to opening your own fund?
is opening your fund a good idea or does it make you a chump still at the mercy of the market?

>>56426012
I like revolvers. Rock Island Armory makes perfectly good low cost ones. The m200 is around $250-$270. .38 special, just werks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E83jCrdi6EQ

>>56426129
Jews

Should tell you all you have to know

>>56425995
just because a phenomenon is forced by the media and.or large companies doesn't mean it's not real. ESG is bullshit but it moves trillions of dollars of real money. Overall, it's true racial stereotyping was a lot more common and socially accepted in the 90's than now, but it felt like mutual respect could still develop organically whereas nowadays it's all about keeping track of oppression points. Everything, especially at the corporate level, is a cynical calculation now.

>>56426107
Fully integrated iron ore mining + steelmaking. The easy money has been made but it's probably still viable as an onshoring play. If nothing else, you can listen to their CEO dunk on analysts in the earnings calls.

>>56425092
>niggerball 2

did you goyim think the chosen people could get attacked and there not be financial repercussions? How'd you like Friday's market? Get ready for more!

>>56426124
turk shit knockoffs (canik is okay but SD just get the Walther). not a huge fan of S&W, Taurus, most sub $400 unless it's used. Glock gen 3 clones, just get the Glock brand Glock.

>>56426130
What happens if you get in a shootout with joggers and your six shots are out? You're gonna do a stress reload behind your couch?
>jannies sell SPY this is financial advice

>>56425092
You're eating pork?

>>56426378
I don't carry a pistol on me (can't due to local laws) so that's not part of the equation.

>>56426396
I mentioned "behind your couch" as in at home so it is part of the equation, libtard.

>>56426378
Just don’t miss
Simple as

>>56426417
>libtard
Watch your mouth there, fren. I have others of various sizes and shapes what for plinking at the local range like a good law abiding boy.

>>56426317

is it safe to say that the war anticipation euphoria is about to fade next week when nothing keeps on ever happening during this weekend?

Does this resonate with you?

>>56426012
Pipe bomb

Thoughts?

>>56426519
so make less trades, but make throw large sums of money at them? it does not resonate with me, i don't understand what its trying to prove

>>56426012
its not the handgun son, its the handgunner. i shoot better with my PPK (not pictured), than with either of these 2 posted. the sig is the most modern having a large capacity, chambered in 9milly, has an accessory rail, and has a threaded barrel. the 1911 of course is the gun when you want to kill things in one shot.

Would it be dumb to short Netflix now? Or will that scam pump sustain

Can someone redpill me on Martin Shkreli, is he reddit or is he /ourguy/

>>56426688
Theres no reason for it to dump. They grew subscribers. It is going to track SPY untill their next earnings.

>>56426699
Bit of both

This evening's herbal tea will be peppermint flavor.
>>56426699
I have no specific opinion on Schmelly but I did think the scam he pulled with his pharmaceutical prices was funny.

>>56425995
*1850's. No:
>Riots
>Black unemployment
>Unsafe neighborhoods
>Diversity bloat in school curricula
>Overflowing prisons

>>56426473
Correct. The real war doesn't kick off for another few years, when China smells blood in the water.

Mungerposting every day until DJCO is at $100k.

WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE

I yoloed into PHIO at $2.50. Can any TA fags tell me what I'm in for?

>>56426519
The amount of times ive drunk yolo’d a trade and thought if i lose everything ive got a pistol right here to an hero would make this resonate with me

Soon the music changes. Stay noided.

14 minutes to movie night! This the fourth week of Spooktober the theme is Found Footy, always a favourite, so tonite's feature is Dabbe: Cin Çarpmasi (2013)!

Movie night movie night, get in here! Tonite's feature is Dabbe: Cin Çarpmasi (2013)!

>>56426941
Kek dabbies

That "you're ok once per day" bullshit sure was bullshit.

>>56426612
31k/yr+social security. I'd be able to live very comfortable on that.

Any of y’all avid cocktail drinkers/amateur bartenders?
Best whiskey sour recipe?

>>56427029
Jim bean and the crust off my balls

>>56426865
We're so far and deep into clown world that the "Krugman comes to power" chart is about to seem plausible.

>>56427009
IT'S OVER

>>56427038
Did you know the idiots running Weimar's finances *also* didn't term out their debt when interest rates were low?

>futures

>>56426876
2 months and a few days and he'll be 100

>>56426100
Damn

>>56426876
why is a newspaper company so valuable?

>>56427137
try ear plugs next time

>>56427150
that's what baby blood and fetus bbq does to a mf

>>56427169
They also make software used by courts and other entities in the legal system.

>>56427077
Perhaps that was intentional.

>>56427038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUYBWuI5uXk
>it was just a few years ago that doomjak videos were in vogue

>>56427221
Race cars are too loud for ear plugs

Your pessimism disappoints him

>vanguard international bond funds don't hold chinese bonds
pussies

WW3 by market open. You heard it here first.

>>56427507
I'll be fine with being in green.

>>56425501
Rocker is being a fag again

>>56427602

Serious question, is the US about to become insolvent? This stuff with the bonds and other countries not wanting them anymore while switching to other currencies to buy oil seems troubling and as if it might risk our way of living...

>>56426519
Women are better investors, because they are dumber, and don't touch their accounts. The best investors are actually dead, because they REALLY don't touch their accounts. Men are shit investors, because we figured out how to build society hence we think we can figure investing out. We can't though, for the most part, aside from gods like Buffet.

>>56427727
Buffett thinks in near instantaneously 3 dimentional imagery, their is no beating him. You should seriously go listen to him explain how he organizes his thoughts, stream of consciousness fags like ourselves cannot compete.

>>56427727
my mom has lost 90 percent of her inheritance to inflation and bond ETF losses

>>56427626
no

just fucked my sister

Im so hungover Im not even horny

Short the VIX

my sister squirted

>>56427626
>about to become insolvent
>about
Been insolvent for decades

>>56427957
kek sister squirties

>>56426519
no it does not because I make money

Did the jews invade yet?

I saw 20 trucks go to Rahfa or whatever, but the jews never went in.

All of those trucks will be used by the restence... the intifada

Did the trucks get unloaded and come out? This is actually how you get new intelligence

>>56428069
baggie if you want to talk about pali chan you should go to /pol/.

>>56427957
>tfw no squirting sister

>>56428047
>>56428058
>>56428062
>>56428069
Wtf is your problem baggie?

>Yields of longer-dated Treasury securities have surged by about 150 basis points since April this year, from about 3.5% to above 5% for 20-year and 30-year yields, and to just below 5% for the 10-year yield, which has caused a historic bloodbath for holders of these securities and bond funds, such as the TLT. There is now a lot of navel-gazing in some quarters as to why this jump in yields could possibly have happened. And here and there, some fancy theories are getting trotted out.

>But it boils down to supply and demand. Supply is a tsunami of Treasury securities being issued as the government has to borrow unspeakable amounts to fund its scandalous deficits even in a strong economy.

>And this tsunami of supply must find demand. Yields must rise until they meet demand. Yield solves all demand problems. There will always be demand if the yields are high enough, so it’s not a question of finding buyers, but at what yield those buyers can be found.

>And that’s what we’re looking at: To what level will 10-year yields have to rise to entice even me to buy some of them? For me, 10-year yields are not there yet. And as each wave of issuance gets bought, new buyers need to be enticed with sufficient yields.

>Obviously, something could change that would lower yield expectations by potential buyers, such as inflation miraculously vanishing or something scary happening that will make even an unappetizing 10-year yield look better than the alternatives. But we’re not there yet.

Does anyone have experience using divination for investment? Tea leaves, astrology, dao de jing, etc

>>56428531
Sometimes I see dreams about where things are going in thr market. Not a great track record with those

>>56427818
give link please

>>56428531
>astrology

I often talk about Indian Astrology: it has pretty good track record for general macro changes. You can look up Joni Patry on youtube. She occasional talks about stock market drops as a passing statement and even when to avoid air travel but primarily focuses on societal well being.

>>56427957
fuck, that’s hot

>>56425672
this
>>56425501
nigger

>>56424977
about fucking time.
I’m getting really sick of those greedy ass jew bastards always getting their way with popular opinion

I'm making money but fuck this market.

Why aren't US markets open on Sunday like Israeli markets, very anti-semetic.

>>56425728
1. Shit
2. Wtf kinda nice this BT
3. Not my style
4. Kek nostalgic
5. Awooga
6. Based trucker anthem

Surely bonds are done dumping here and both bonds and equities will bounce back, right?

>>56428823
Yes, pretty much.

>>56424917

>>56425053

>>56429009
I'm gonna need a sauce on that one buddy.

>>56428823
>>56428839

>>56429030
Yeah they have to liquidate because of the strong dollar in order purchase commodities and pay down dollar denominated debt, ain't much to it.

>>56427626
>while switching to other currencies to buy oil
The only one that I know of is Indians giving shit smeared rupees to the russians and the russians seething hard about it.

>>56429030
That doesn't really mean much

>>56429092
it really does. Biggest US creditors are foreign bond buyers. Japan & China are the biggest. But because US debt keeps rising faster than foreign bond buying, the yields keep rising due to lower global demand

>And so the share of foreign holders of the US debt held by the public has plunged. Ten years ago, they held 45% of the public US debt; but now, despite the increase of their holdings over this period, their share has dropped to 29%.

>In other words, they’re still adding, but not nearly fast enough to keep up with the growth of the US debt. And other buyers have to be enticed with higher yields to fill the gap.

>>56429226
The U.S can print their way out of debt via congress, debt means nothing because we issue our own currency.

I didn't realize this general was full of squares that didn't appreciate 90's rap. You're a bunch of nerds.

>>56429266
uh buddy, the fed issues currency, not congress

Heard it here first, AMZN will miss hard. Puts are free money.

>>56429350
Boom bap nursery rhymes are gay.

>>56429387
You know what chud, you're gay.

Weekend morning /smg/ is so slow that Pepe can do a barrel roll! :D

Haha we like to have fun here. :P
Never a dull moment hanging out with the boys at the /smg/ pub.

/smg/ is slow on the weekends because that's when all the IT fags stay out late to suck hobo cock. Or in scoopsies case he but chugs red bull and sucks off clown trannies

Haha my favorite inside joke is when you post "Baking!" but you're not really baking haha that's a good one. Love the culture here.

>>56429502
My favorite is at market open a bunch of people will post "what the fuck was that?!?" So I panic and check my portfolio just to find out nothing happened. I slap my knee every time.

>>56429470
>>56429476
>>56429480
>>56429484
>>56429489
Bottom signal.

>>56425092
Watched the Buckeyes win. My company paid for suite-level seats with unlimited food & drink at the Columbus Crew game. Then I went to Hofbräuhaus and drank until close talking to the cute bartender I like.

>>56424917
No one "buy" long term treasuries
You trade them. The average holding period for the 20 year used to be 30 days. They're interest rate futures that pay you to own them and let you take out margin against them. It's actually 200 IQ Jewish magic for the past 40 years

>>56429556
That's pretty suite. I didn't expect state to play as bad as they did but it was very satisfying because I hate those bastards.

>>56429556
In love with the bartender in a dirndl anon. It's you isn't it?

>>56427169
Like $200 million stock portfolio and one of 2 companies trying to digitize and unify court reporting which will eventually be a several billion dollar industry

>>56429602

This is the second church I will be doing work for seeing if it can be redeveloped into lower middle class housing. I had a dream about it last night. I want to KMS.

>>56426012
Sig p365 or Ruger Max 9, or Springfield Hellcat.
>>56426130
Completely disregard this garbage

I have a real hankering for subway and I don't know why. Through the app they have buy one get one 50% off foot long subs. I think I'm going to get 2 cold cut combos, lettuce, tomato, red onion l, pickle, black olive, jalapenos, and mayo. Not which one of you wagies is going to make it for me?

>>56429489
Poggers

>50k a year salary
what car should i get besides a shitbox?

>>56427169
Cool it with the antisemitism

>>56429680
>what car should i get besides a shitbox?
None.

>>56429266
Sure they can do that, but if US debt keeps rising faster than global demand, yields will have to keep going up. Supply and demand.

>>56429680
Lol
Lmao

Turn it inside out so I can see
The part of you that's drifting over me
And when I wake you're, you're never there
But when I sleep you're, you're everywhere
You're everywhere

Just tell me how I got this far
Just tell me why you're here and who you are
'Cause every time I look, you're never there
And every time I sleep, you're always there

'Cause you're everywhere to me
And when I close my eyes, it's you I see
You're everything I know, that makes me believe
I'm not alone
I'm not alone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLCasyAh7ic

>>56429689
>>56429718
no srsly the warehouse guys have a nicer car than me

>>56429724
Kek gaaaayyyy

>>56429730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0HX4a5P8eE

>>56429730
Probably bought with a loan with a 10% interest rate

>>56429736
I can fix her.

>>56429607
are there any companies that auction people's cases to lawyers?

>>56429730
nothing a dually F-450 can't fix
Make sure to take up two parking spaces

>>56429764
1800askgarry
411pain

The investible version of this is private funding of lawsuits, but you're going through a sketchy broker and getting the garbage that hedge funds don't want

We live in the most worthless of all possible worlds

Captcha: TY DNR sounds like a suicide not kek

>>56429730
>no srsly the warehouse guys have a nicer car than me
Goy though process you got there, go ahead buy a new car and keep us posted.

>>56429680
Yeah sorry your gonna have to stick with a shitbox anon
Even 3k civics cost 5k+ now

>>56429786
those seem like hot lines instead of websites that are lawyer marketplaces where you can auction your case for the lowest price

>>56429787
ill buy used and get a deal, sell my current car for extra cash, are you niggers this dumb?

>>56429749
this advertisement is a very good demonstration of how the entire "booming" economy is functioning right now

I've been doing very well with my Peugeot 307. It's easy to fix and maintain myself, parts are easy to get and aren't overpriced, doesn't have many model specific issues, doesn't guzzle gas, is spacious, doesn't grind the icy ground in the Winter, and I've taken care of all of the needed repairs for the foreseeable future. Sure it's not a German or Japanese beast and it's not particularly cool or anything and it's a pretty old model but it's reliable. It just works.

>>56429763
Kek I forgot she went full blown amber heard.
>>56429787
Once my car breaks down I'm just going to lease. Done with this shit

>>56429836
>lease
>monthly payment
>still have to pay to do maintenance on it
>still have to insure it, which will be a higher rate
>still have to pay registration on it
>will have to return it after the lease is up
explain to me how leasing is a financially sound idea? i bought a ford focus for pretty cheap considering the high used car prices, mechanically sound and i own it

>>56429868
For high end cars you have a totally defined cost if you're somebody who is going to get a new car every 2 years. If you buy a new model of Porsche or Tesla you have no idea what the resale will be

>>56426699
he's an /ourguy/ from New York. he's mostly based but he comes from the most Reddit place on the planet.

>>56429836
>Once my car breaks down I'm just going to lease

>>56429836
>Done with this shit
Same but instead of leasing maybe go on the Nippon motorcycle pill.

>>56429882
>for high end cars
ok that makes sense, just an oil change on a mercedes is like $300 minimum. however, this anon isn't buying a high end car, he's buying a 50k salaryman car. he needs a daily beater that will take him A to B reliably and safely. personally, i wouldn't lease a high end car just to take it to my warehouse job.

>>56429905
You misunderstand, that anon wants to engage in a dick measuring contest with the other employees. He isn't getting a 50k salaryman car.

>>56429868
You don't have to pay to do maintenance. The whole point of leasing is if anything at all goes wrong with your car the dealership is on the hook. You also can basically trade it in every couple of years and get a brand new car, and if you end up liking the car you can buy it after instead. The only thing you have to watch is your mileage because there is a cap per year, but it's ideal for someone that lives and works in a small town like me. The monthly payments are generally cheaper as well.

>>56429916
Also Im not the warehouse anon

>>56429916
>that anon wants to engage in a dick measuring contest with the other employees. He isn't getting a 50k salaryman car.
Classic goy mentality. Love to see it!

it's ok to buy a niceish car if you plan on keeping it for awhile.

I bought a 2011 Ford SHO used from the dealer with like 800 miles on it in 2011. full trim package, sound system, sports package and everything. I haven't had a single mechanical problem with it just a couple cosmetic issues with the plastic in the interior and the chrome trim. I bought it the first year that in car entertainment/phone sync systems/rear backup cameras etc came out. It still has a top tier version of all of those, I regularly rent cars when I travel and notice that the systems in new Dodges, Volkswagens etc suck compared to what I bought 10 years ago. It has a built in GPS that works far better than Google/Apple maps still. I love the car and could easily drive it another 10 years.

>>56429916
Then he should also take out a +10% interest loan like the others lol

>>56429916
thats true, more power to him i guess

>>56429923
>You don't have to pay to do maintenance
yeah you do, when you sign the paperwork you're taking on the responsibility of ownership to drive the vehicle. maybe its different for you, but it's that way where i live and nearby states as well.

>>56429943
never had a problem with ford, yet everyone else seems to have had issues. never had my truck break down, and my focus isn't having any real transmission issues

>>56429976
I dunno, my brother leased his car and never had to pay for repairs he just took it to the dealership. Maybe different states have different policies. I definitely wouldn't lease a vehicle and pay for repairs. That makes zero sense.

>>56429976
Yeah I love Ford. If I end this trading year with a big profit I'm going to buy a new Bronco cash. I was up enough in June to pull the trigger on one without flinching but then I got FUCKED by those couple months of chop in the market. We'll see how the last 10 weeks play out.

>>56429976
Ok from what I'm reading basically you have to take care of minor shit like oil changes and stuff which isn't a big deal anyway.

>>56429996
>>56430012
again, if thats what you want more power to you.

>>56430002
i heard the transmission on the broncos suck but that might've been fixed by now, its been a few years.

>>56430068
Used car prices are just at an absurd level. People are legitimately selling used trucks with 100k miles on them for $20k. I'm not playing that game.

Get a Corolla. Mine's a 2014 model w/under 78,500 on it. I got it in 2016. No problems, no nothing just ho hum regular maintenance stuff. But then again a full tank of gas will last a month the way I drive anymore. (Work is uh only round 10-15 min from the house so yeah).

>>56430076
just gotta take the time to shop around, thats how i found my focus. everything else with similar years and mileage was selling for around $15k. got mine for $7k, was skeptical as hell but its been a year now and no major issues. deals are out there, you gotta know what you're looking for

so what do we actually need as a catalyst on QQQ/SPY to level down/level up from here? there's nothing on the economic calendar tomorrow. is it just going to be driven by price action, war speculation, what?

>>56426100
>Previously on Hanni-bool

What are your stock market predictions over the next month? How are current events affecting what direction the line goes in? You will be rated on how good of an explanation you give to back up your predictions.

>>56426612
I'm thinking a 92 year old somewhere is about to get robbed

>>56430201
$250k isn't even a lot of money anymore.

>>56430126
Corollas are shockingly cheap for what they are.
>people selling a used prius from 2010 with 160k miles for 8000 dollars
>people selling a used corolla from 2019 with 16k miles for 13,500 dollars
I don't know why the hybrid meme game is so strong.

>>56430246

>>56430180
I don't think it's necessarily clear it will go either up or down without a catalyst. Might be oversold in the very short term but the direction is down in the longer term unless something changes to make things bullish again

I just accidentally swallowed a live roach that was in my hot cocoa /smg/. How do I profit off of this?

>>56430200
>fake gun
I believe line will go down, but who fucking knows clown world never ends.

>>56430126
I have a 2006 Corrolla with 300k miles on it and it still runs fine. I've run it into a dozen things (cars, animals, street signs) and never washed it and only change the oil once every year or so. The only problem is it's corroding away from the trips I've taken it on through the north with all the road salt and not realizing I needed to wash it after.
Those things are fucking amazing and they're so cheap.

>>56430180
This week is just going to crab with the SPY retesting the 200ma. We might see some real action around FOMC.

I don’t work in the warehouse you dicks I’m saying I work in the office and most of the guys in the warehouse have nicer cars , I just started and will be getting a raise soon :^) until I eventually job hop to a 80-100k a year job

long natgas

>>56430267
Christ I'm in the wrong line of business

>>56430320
I keep telling you, if you see a warehouse goblin with a nice car that's either the product of long overtime hours, +10% interest rate car loans, or both

>>56430320
import a lotus and show those other wagies who is boss

>>56430320
You should buy a corolla anyway. The next few years are going to absolutely fuck people holding debt.
Poor people buy expensive cars because they're idiots.

>>56427921

Parents are going to Vegas for a week vacation. I asked them to check out the Sphere and to try to win some cash. (and course I also wished them a good trip). Christ I seen videos of the Sphere, imagine someone playing a porn video or displaying hentai on those screens..

>>56430370
We should nuke the whole South West. It's an abomination.

>>56428531
We've got one guy here whose mom(?) gave him some tarot cards and he does readings.

>>56430335
>fuck people holding debt.
The HELOC tard coping will be amazing

right now we are gapping up 0.2%+

>>56430403
on Sunday?

>>56430387
I can't believe there were YouTube "finance gurus" telling people to take out HELOCs for down payments on investment properties. That seems like it should be illegal.

>>56430404
on bucket shop markets yeah but those don't really mean shit

>>56427957
Only had a squirter back in highshool, of course I cheated on my blonde gf for the squirter blonde. Wasn’t even a question. God damn mattress was ruined.

>>56429680
90s low-tier sport cars should be easy to afford

it's over

>>56430403
I gaped ur mum last nite lmao gottem.

>>56430370
SPHR feels like one of those meme stocks that about to turn out not to be a meme stock.

>>56430451
Nice.

>>56430446
Shalom

>>56430436
I don't know if there was an uglier era of car models than the 90's

>>56430476
have you considered killing yourself

>>56430446
>2 Egyptian Soldiers have been Wounded following the claimed “Accidental-Firing” of an Israeli Tank towards an Outpost on the Egyptian Border.

Yawn. Fake, gay, nothing ever happens.

>>56430446
how is Israel so good at shooting at literally everybody? Seems like they don't care whether it's an American, Syrian, Egyptian, Lebanese, Palestinian, Iranian, Yemeni, you name it

>>56430485
No because I drive a 2010 Ford fusion

>>56430488
The real question is how do they get away with it

>>56428531
thats some satanic occult shit, dont get into it

>>56430499
>drives a generic souless car
>has negative opinion about 90s cars

>>56428759
So they can rugpull burgers while they're distracted during their sunday activities

None of you fucks gonna bake?

>>56430522
Ok I'll concede, the 80's were the worst. But I don't think there was an uglier car in existence than the early 90's mercury sable

>>56430530
I simply wont bake

>>56430323
That's essentially all that I do.

>>56429492
lel, saved

>>56430446
Biden literally said the US has "run out of steam." There won't be a war, there probably won't be peace either though.

>>56429730
The warehouse guys are making more than $50k too

What are you still doing here?!

>>56430598
>>56430598
>>56430598

>>56430826
The ID is different in the first one because I had a bad connection tethering to my phone for off-topic funposting. :(

>>56431209
oh that explains it, doesn't really matter though

>>>/pol/445925473
BUMP for Disclosure Now! Happening!

>>56430446
>Jews """""""accidentally""""""" murdered goyim
Oy vey, if you retaliate ur an antisemite!