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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

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PREVIOUS THREAD: >>56309959

>> No.56411616

First for crabs (How do you say crab in Japanese?)

>> No.56411622
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START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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>>56411616
forgot to attach unrelated image

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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Buy silver/gold bullion with XMR (US only)
https://monerosilver.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Monero-only Airbnb
https://safehouse.homes/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/ev2jTUKS


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

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START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

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>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

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>Introducing Neveko: https://github.com/creating2morrow/neveko
>full-stack privacy application with gpg messaging, monero multisig and built-in i2p marketplace
>Still a work in progress, and pretty much an alpha. But run it, and give feedback, file issues---very much appreciated.
>Monero + I2P = ( THE FINAL SOLUTION to the taxman question )

Unfathomably based and agoristpilled. Kudos for going with I2P instead of Tor, this is the way.

Post a reminder in every General, this is exactly the kind of thing the circular Monero economy needs.

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>>56411616
crabsu!

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>>56411606
Monero-chan is the best!

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Threadly reminder that there is now a parallel XMR General on the darknet imageboard BitChan where you can post with the absolute maximum degree of privacy possible.

Why bother? Well, remember that every time you post on 4chan the content + your IP address are being logged and that data can and will be made available to LE/glowies upon request.

So if you need to ask a very delicate question, want to make a potentially incriminating announcement or you otherwise just absolutely positively DO NOT WANT to risk being deanonymized, the BitChan thread would be the place to do it.

The slightly higher barrier to entry also serves as a badly needed retard filter so a lot of us post there simply to avoid the hordes of mouth breathers that befoul this otherwise delightful basket weaving forum.

>How do I access BitChan?

You need to have I2P configured & running on your device. Fortunately, pre-configured browser bundles are now available and make everything easy. Since most of you lazy faggots are still using Windows we'll default to that for the following guide:

1. Visit https://i2pd.website/ and click on 'Download I2PdBrowser'.
2. Download either the I2PdBrowserPortable_xxx.7z or .exe file. Extract/install it.
3. Run the StartI2PdBrowser.bat batch file to launch. Adjust firewall settings/port forward as required. Port forwarding > UPnP

A cmd window will pop up and initialize the process. A windowed Firefox instance should soon appear. DO NOT RESIZE IT! Browser fingerprinting is a thing. Once pic-related appears you are officially browsing the darknet! You can monitor yr I2P service by visiting http://127.0.0.1:7070/ in yr *regular* browser.

Then simply copy/paste the following link into the address bar as per usual:

http://bitchan.i2p/thread/BM-2cVPN9mi9oBKATjNxKkopHJSCU9ah7wQwW/047186ce462d

You may have to complete a CAPTCHA on your first visit. Also, NEVER, EVER ENABLE JAVASCRIPT!!!!

Keep in mind that page loading takes longer on the darknet, so be patient.

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>>56411734
Wrong.
I will give you a hint.
Monero is a crab coin, what is something that can only be bought using Monero.
See picrel and read it with correct pronounciation.

>> No.56411821

Greetings fellow nazis, hitler did not do nothing wrong haha XD. Anyone want to discuss future terrorist plans? You can trust me I hold monito token

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>>56411817
Google translate is notoriously wrong, I'm an expert in Japanese (N1) and can confirm it's infact Crabsu.

>> No.56411916

>>56411906
>I'm an expert in Japanese (N1) and can confirm it's infact Crabsu.
I'm and expert in Anime (Hentai69) and can confirm it's infact Cunny
Checkmate

>> No.56411920

>>56411916
>I'm and
The sins of phonepoasting cometh and that right soon.

>> No.56412067

>>56411906
I'm refunding my wanikani this instant!

>> No.56412149

two million nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred and nineteen.... :3

>> No.56412200

>>56411622
Thanks
>although you can and should run your own node if possible
what is the advantage of running your own node in this setup

>> No.56412211

Soon 3 million blocks bros.

>> No.56412248

>>56411606
monero stands for 胸エロ〜〜〜〜

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Reporting in
##################################
Swimng Pool - https://pastebin.com/raw/Mb7Dyg24
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
##################################
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

>> No.56413109

Monero block countdown to 3 million
https://moneroexplorer.org
https://localmonero.co/blocks
https://txstreet.com/v/xmr

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>>56413109
3,000,000 blocks achieved.

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>>56413517
To the next 3 million!

>> No.56413743

XMR lost to Bitcoin cash. There will be no bull run in 2023 or 2024. Go to 0.003 Again.

>> No.56413977

>>56411606
Is true Monero has infinite supply?

>> No.56414004

Why the fuck are the threads still filled up with an unreadable autistic text dump? I don't wanna scroll for a minute and then read about monerochan farts you niggers

>> No.56414048

>>56414004
its only unreadable because you are illiterate.

>> No.56414189

>>56413977
Yes but no.
I'm sure you can do 5 min of research to figure it out.
I believe in you anon!

>> No.56414330

>>56413977
These threads are fucking groundhog day.
Only on an infinite timescale, idk about you but I doubt I'm going to gain eternal life, at least on this plane of existence.

Anyone have any thoughts on ID systems outside of the state? I saw some buzz about building something like that on the Monero blockchain itself, but that sounds stupid and gay. There are legitimate usecases for people wanting to be able to reliably identify one another, but idk if any blockchain needs to be involved, much less monero's. PGP sort of solves this, but there's too much active trust going on with things like keyservers, and it is just kinda clunky to use. That said, I'm probably not smart enough to figure out anything better.

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>>56413977
>Is true Monero has infinite supply?

Yes.

>> No.56414878

>>56413977
Who told you? Oh no, our secret revealed! I recommend liking something else, like men perhaps?

>> No.56415754

three million and twenty one.... =3

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happy year 3mil monero bros. It has been an honor to have transactions included in past blocks with you guys. And thank you for being the decoys of my RingCT. here's to 3mil more

>> No.56415857

>>56415830
>thank you for being the decoys of my RingCT
>he doesn't know

>> No.56416469

>>56413517
What’s that mean?

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So apparently the WSJ did an article about crypto in which Zcash and Monero were mentioned in the context of criminal use.

I just love how the mere suggestion of criminal adoption sends Zcucks into damage control mode

>> No.56417252

>>56416469
nothing

>> No.56417435

>>56411606
>Behead the fed
>Puts treasury secretary in the picture
>???

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>>56417435
>am retarded
>forget that (((Janet Yellen))) was Federal Reserve chair
>is now Treasury Secretary
>There's no conflict of interest or (((pattern))) here
>shit on the OP's pic
>wonder who is going to the super bowl in 2024 unironically and how much can I donate to Israel

>> No.56417773

https://moneromarket.io/listing/cf44ce2e-6fb2-43c0-a691-e62b8b13e964

Hello guys, brand anon again. I'm doing a special /biz/ offer exclusively for you all until October 30th. I see a lot of you can't or are currently not able to afford something for 38 xmr right now so I'll throw you all a treat. Message me on the monero market platform how much you are willing to pay for a complete guide (or just a logomark) and I'll be able to work with you + deliver all the brand work before Halloween. Just don't forget to include the words "spoopy" so I know it's you guys. Please reach out :)

>> No.56417951

the bull run has started
everyone else is going up

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>>56417951

It's all smoke, mirrors & wash trading. Meanwhile, Monero is actually being used more and more for its intended purpose.

That might not seem as exciting right now but it will be when sanity finally returns to the market and everybody realizes 99% of coins are useless and therefore worthless.

>> No.56418313

>>56417951
>the bull run has started
are you retarded? interest rates have no sign of going down and risk assets like crypto will plummet once things start selling off.

>> No.56418325

>>56418181
monero has the most "wash trading" of all in order to deanonymize ring signatures.

>> No.56418336

>>56418325
you would need to have well over 95% of the outputs for an extended period of time to have enough decoys to deanonymize ring sigs.
Plus Monero isn't even on most centralized exchanges so your conspiracy doesn't make sense.

>> No.56418455

>>56418325
You wish faggot, the wash trading is to surpress the price.
>>56418336
To play devil's advocate, they don't have to use cex if they really wanted to fuck with the chain.

>> No.56418557

>>56418336
now find out how many transaction fees monero generates in a year

>> No.56418561

>>56418455
>You wish
why would i? if anything you would hope monero was actually private instead of relying on dangerously obsolete ring signatures.

>> No.56418597

>>56418455
>they don't have to use cex if they really wanted to fuck with the chain.
we are talking about wash trading though
>>56418557
what does this even mean lol. we already track how many transactions there are every day. it would be pretty easy to see the amount of transactions skyrocket a massive amount.
calling ring signatures obsolete is brainlet tier. They work fantastic for what they are, and will hold us over until better solutions come forth. saying that monero isn't private is retarded fud. we have years of dark net market usage and it's painfully clear that Monero works even with these "dangerously obsolete ring signatures". that's just pathetic mischaracterization.

>> No.56418687

>>56418597
it means "attacking" monero with bad decoys is effectively free.
if you think ring signatures are acceptable you're entirely unqualified to talk about them. crying about fud every time someone points out why monero has failed it's one job is the reason why you won't find anyone but drug addicts using it. real privacy is found elsewhere.

>> No.56418737

>>56418687
it's not "effectively free". yes, Monero has low transactions fees, but any flash spam attack would trigger higher transactions fees because dynamic block size would trigger and miners would prevent blocks from growing to fast (or be subject to penalties). This would make the fees higher in response in the short term.
But that doesn't even matter because you again demonstrate that you have absolutely no understanding of just how much and how long an attacker would have to be spamming the network to effectively deanonymize ring signatures. show me the math you retard. It's not "effectively free" nor is it something that can be done immediately. It would take weeks, it would not be free, and the network would react against the spam once it would occur.
>real privacy is found elsewhere.
lol, name me a larger free market dependent on private p2p cryptocurrency. If there was a better alternative it would be getting used on the darknet genius.

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>>56418687

We all know who the real king is.

>> No.56418809

>>56418737
>flash spam attack
irrelevant to deanonymize monero
again, go look and see just how much every single xmr transaction paid in fees over the past year. you really don't understand how monero's privacy works, and it has nothing to do with cryptography.

>>56418740
zcash failed before it ever began. privacy isn't something you solve with an altcoin that has privacy as a headline feature, without plausible deniability it's as good as optional privacy.

>> No.56420167

can I donate my useless bat tokens to monero devs somehow?

>> No.56420332

>>56417701
We know it's you OP. No need to vpnfag to white knight for yourself

>> No.56420342

>>56417773
Has a single person taken you up on this?

>>56420167
Why would any sane Monero dev do that? They can just receive direct XMR tips anonymously for cheaper, without associating an exchange identity, browser usage, and their affiliation with Monero.

>> No.56420362

>>56413743
No one, literally no one uses BCH other than old fag whales pumping and dumping on gullible normies that see Bitcoin in the name thinking it's a viable alternative because of the price.

>> No.56420786

How are you xmrchads doing today?
Feels good dumping zeph and buying xmr
I hope they don't change their algo

>> No.56420819

>>56420362
>No one, literally no one uses BCH other than old fag whales pumping and dumping on gullible normies
This applies to literally every crypto, yes even xmr that has some usage.

>> No.56420872

>>56418687
please show me a proof of concept of how monero can be deanonymized
until you can provide a minimal amount of proof you're just as qualified as my 80 iq buddy that likes to smoke crystal meth and gamble his disability money

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>>56416736
> A representative for monero didn't respond to a request for comment

>> No.56421047

>>56420819
He meant to say that besides potentintial crypto manipulation, xmr is actually used nigger. While no one uses ypur shit coin besides price manipulation

>> No.56421372

>>56413977
It corresponds to an inflation rate of less than 0.85% (about half of gold). Tail emission began not long ago so that's the highest point. It will forever fall since. (Theoretically until it reaches a balance with lost coins and becomes zero, or it becomes zero in infinite time). Either way a nothing burger. In exchange, there are very good reasons to have block rewards not go completely to zero after initial emission.
https://moneroj.net/inflation/
http://moneroj5xq4ttg4ec7e5secqdyw5mcovzvfvlq6i7omv353i6mnexlqd.onion/inflation/

>> No.56421735

>>56411606
Bros today I learnt that there is a Shitcoin-as-a-Service SASS industry

https://www.walletbuilders.com

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>>56422430
>LN is the future

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Criminals be lazy.

>> No.56424751

>>56420872
>proof of concept
you realize the monero devs already did this years ago which is why they all scattered and the few that remain are working on integrating zk membership proofs?
ring signatures are a hack, nothing more.

>>56422597
monero scales even worse than bitcoin without any l2 in the picture. also funny to call it a "backdoor" when monero's entire privacy model is much closer to a true backdoor than anything related to lightning or bitcoin.

>> No.56424873

>>56420342
>Has a single person taken you up on this?
Not yet but I've seen a good amount that were in need of a brand for their biz. I'm flexible with the offer so I'm hoping someone here reaches out :(

>> No.56424875

>>56418561
Obsolete is an opinion, only one with utility. I wonder what the new gay fud bleat is going to be when seraphis drops.
>>56418597
You don't need a cex to manipulate a chain.
>>56418740
My rights aren't optional, kys.
>>56420342
To be fair I am thinking about it, but I haven't gotten close to meeting goals to require a new business card yet.
>>56420786
Diversify, the pump is coming.
>>56424751
>you realize the monero devs already did this years ago
>monero scales even worse than bitcoin
How you fucking nigger. Your stink always gives you away, goddamn you losers are insufferable.

>> No.56424982

>>56424751
lmao you're either a fed or a genuine idiot
listen here buddy, theres a reason why no dark net market uses lightning

>> No.56425450

>>56424875
>how
because each tx on monero needs more resources in storage and validation than bitcoin.
don't tell me your iq is low enough to think scaling means capacity?

>>56424982
>no dark net market uses lightning
of course not, but that's the only thing monero's privacy is better than which is embarrassing as that's the only reason for it to exist.

>> No.56425748

>>56425450
I'm literally one of the least cyber guys in the planet and even I know that's bullshit. Even if xmr had 1000x the transactions but somehow the same price, the variable block size alone would not cause a 1000x in tx price, and still would confirm in about 2 minutes. You're full of shit as even at 30k, bitshit still takes a fucking hour to move even the smallest amounts and taking huge percentage of the tx value for it because of its limitations. Even if xmr got to the point that it has btc-tier tx prices, at least it would take 4 minutes for 2 or 3 confirms instead of waiting multiple hours, on a good day. KYS, better yet I hope a sandnigger does the job for you, kike.

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>>56425450
>of course not, but that's the only thing monero's privacy is better than which is embarrassing as that's the only reason for it to exist.

lol u mad that the free market deems privacy more important than of other Bitcoin's "killer apps?"

Talk about embarassing, imagine getting driven out of an economy you fucking created and dominated for 10 years by such a lowly altcoin.

My sides.

>> No.56427090

>>56425748
nice wall of text that's precisely what i'm saying. expandable blocksize is a ring signature vulnerability. it is also not a solution to scaling because it only adds capacity

>>56426620
i'd only be mad if i was holding monero from the 2017 cycle where ti's never returned to those btc highs.
obsessing over alts like football teams is what's embarrassing for you here. if tech is what matters, monero doesn't have it. price? monero doesn't have it. you're here because you're a fanboy, nothing else.

>> No.56427392

>>56427090

lol get a load of the moonfag mindset here, fixated on muh price action rather than on actual utilization trends.

Bottom line: Monero demonstrably has what it takes to overcome BTC's network effect and drive it out of the black market economy BTC spawned and was entrenched in for over a decade.

Or put simply: Monero's conquest of the black market is proving to curious onlookers that BTC isn't in fact absolutely necessary and can indeed be replaced by superior tech regardless of how much you laser-eyed faggots insist otherwise.

But do keep dwelling on NGU, its a lock, bro!

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>> No.56428735

>>56428688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHUVASDB3eA

>> No.56428752

>>56423763
>Criminals be lazy.
What is with those VC coins that are so smart at developing copes than developing technology?

>> No.56429069

>>56411616
"Khan-nee"

>> No.56429102

>>56411821
I've read somewhere online that some anons have had enough and are planning to go postal pretty soon...
Keep your eyes on the news in the coming weeks.
XP

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>>56429110

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>>56429153

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>> No.56431089

>>56418687
>real privacy is found elsewhere.
Genuinely curious, where?

Would you change your mind if the ringsize were to increase?

>> No.56431126

>>56425450
>of course not, but that's the only thing monero's privacy is better than which is embarrassing as that's the only reason for it to exist.
I don't get you. You wrote Monero's privacy is vulnerable and that ring signatures are a hack. Here you admit that Monero's privacy is better. So what is it then? Still waiting on your "real privacy is found elsewhere"

>> No.56431629

>Still, the corresponding hardfork is years out, and the design of those technologies is not yet fully settled nor fully reviewed for security.
It's over, seraphis never.

>> No.56432006

>>56431629
real seraphis was the hype we got along the way.

>> No.56432672

>>56431629
>>56432006
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/17duyvo/seraphis_wallet_development_1_year_report/

How does everyone feel after this update?