/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56408138
Who here stacks pre decimal Australian coins? Got myself over a kg of sterling florins and sixpence

Coinquistador Tier reporting in.

post spooky rocks

Hiker sees something sparkle on the trail, only to discover Roman coins buried over 2,000 years ago

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article274745966.html

>immediately goes to the authorities

>>56408208
What would you do if you stumbled upon coins from 2000 years ago?

>>56408138
cool, a figurine i can actually enjoy

First for first coins

>>56408218
>>immediately goes to the authorities
oh for fuck sakes idiot boot lickers i swear

>>56408266
>>56408218

>>56408218

>>56408138
R8 my gold stack

>>56408336
You are a millionaire in Canada. Great work fren.

>>56408138
>Justice Edition

>>56408349

>>56408336
The stack is disorganized with no clear theme. Multiple types of coin and bar are present, with no seeming relation between them aside from the fact that all cost more than the cheapest of coins but none of them are particularly valuable. The stacker has neither committed to buying the cheapest possible metals nor to paying for some decent numismatics. Instead they stubbornly and slavishly went for the mediocre, the middle line, with every purchase.
Despite this the collection has relatively few oddball or unusual purchases. It is for the most part the work of a conformist that seeks to both fit in with instantly recognizable tropes, but also to subtly exceed in ways that will impress others without making them jealous or angry. The size of the collection also reflects this desire. It's a large pile, but certainly not the largest ever. Something others could aspire to and still admire the owner for amassing.

Overall I give it a 7/10 for its weight class as compared to other stacks. Messy, mediocre, but not at all bad for what it is. Not much thought put into it, but thinking isn't for everyone.

>>56408353

>>56408361

>>56408336
An over-representation of lizards, but otherwise respectable.

Silver halves best halve

>>56408336
>MintID Coin

>>56408336
Yo, you let them put a gps tracker in that coin

>>56408336
>mintID

>>56408356

>>56408382
agree

>>56408336
Good shit
>MintID
You may as well just give your metals to the state right now.

>>56408382
I know it's probably better to stack 1 oz coins but constitutional silver interests me a lot more

>>56408409
Doesn't the chip reside in the package?

>>56408356
I....I just like some variety in my stack, anon. P...Please no bully

>>56408456
yes, he can just microwave the whole thing at it will be fine

>>56408465
>and it

>>56408461

*Ting Ting Ting*

I'd just like to announce we hit the all time high for Gold in Euros

>>56408521
where's my sub 1800

>>56408521
Lmao gold and silver don't pay interest, rent or dividends, they aren't money and they don't hold their value

>>56408551
you arent white

>>56408551
>don't trade worthless fiat in for precious metals. we can offer you compound interest on worthless fiat. imagine stuffing your glove box full of worthless fiat! it can all be yours.

You know what's funny yall silver scam victims will spend hours discussing me, where I live, work, speculating on what investments I have but you spend 0 time discussing your investment thesis on silver, why it could possibly go up and how, the best way to profit etc. Yall fell for a scam and instead just go hurr durr muh brics muh collapse and post pictures of tranime figurines

>>56408575
>you spend 0 time discussing your investment thesis on silver, why it could possibly go up and how,
I spent 10 posts last thread explaining that to you

did they reset your memory with the new thread?

>>56408575
>breaking character

>>56408566
Fiat is the greatest invention of all time. It's what let's Americans all be rich despite being fat lazy retards. Sure it decays slowly over time but why would that bother you, who brags nonstop about instantly losing 40% on a worthless rock

>>56408588
>if every broke retard who cant afford rent just magically starts buying silver for $100,000 an ounce we will be rich

That's your thesis?

My silver hoard is getting too heavy for portability, should I diverge into two locations for my stack or do I move on to gold?

>>56408521
UK is just £4 away from breaking its all time record.

>>56408620
that's pretty much it.

lucky guess on the amount. We once did the math and to back all global trade with silver and gold, silver would go to about $100k and gold to several million.

>>56408448
Is it that bad? I could take it out. It was a good deal when I got it.

>>56408650
>I could take it out
if it's a worry, you'd probably be better off trading it for an untraceable item instead of taking it out of the card. Some people probably pay extra for that kind of thing.

>>56408138
I bought the 2022 coin. It's got 7 stars on it like the previous year >>56408349
What is the significance of those stars? (do they have any meaning?)

>>56408691
Yea that’s why I got it. It’s a neat feature and at the time it was right after the queen died and it’s that same year coin which was all sold out but for the one in that package.

>>56408695
Points on the crown of (((“lady liberty”)))

>>56408642
Lmao, now factor in the premiums, the inflation and the 20 % vat you paid.

Lmao you lost 80% and will get taxed on your phantom profit at 50% if you sell. Yall tarded

>>56408521
Imagine being a europoor in anno domini two thousand and twenty three.
At least the US will have a couple of years to watch the continent burn before the nukes fall.

>>56408336
That's the `I could have bought a house but I prefer to lose $$$ on boomer rocks and be a rentoid' stack

>>56408737
>says "Yall"
>thinks houses cost $30,000
must be from oklahoma

Does anyone have a good reason why Britannia’s are so much cheaper than ASEs?

I want more silver coins but I’m heavy on British and Canadian ones. But paying 3$ per coin more for ASEs is just retarded to me.

>>56408762
boomers unironically believe ASE's to be tax free on gains at time of sale. This is a myth, but it makes them popular enough in the US to raise prices.

>>56408737
Jokes on you. Pic was taken on my 1000$ secret lab computer desk which sits in the corner of the 1500sqft great room of my house that I own outright.

Cope, seeth, and stay poor

>>56408774
>self reporting selling silver coins

>>56408784
right?

but we're talking about boomers here.

also I think the current 1099 threshold is $600 if you sell to a business or online.

>>56408802
or to put it another way,

boomers be thinkin they'll sell $100,000 in ASE's and get their 1099s and not owe a dime in taxes.
which is funny.

>>56408816
boomers would probably be smart enough to break the sales up into amounts that are under the reportable limit

>>56408816
do you plan on working your 401 the same way? not even bothering utilizing your tax-free bracket, pull the entire thing at one time so you can #taxmax

>>56408826
only if they think they'll be taxed on them.
they don't think that.
>>56408834
I've seen oldfellas do exactly that. Yank out wads of cash for an "emergency" like the wife wants a new kitchen remodel or the kid is going to college.

but with ASE's I don't think it's even that much thought. Most people my age and older actually believe they're not taxed.
afaik they are.

>>56408737
This broke ass retard can’t fathom the idea that people can have enough money to afford both a house and precious metals. What an absolute moron.
>m-m-muh stocks tho!!!
Yeah, that could crash at any moment overnight before you even have a chance to react.
>m-m-m-muh bonds tho!!!!
Enjoy your dividends/interest that will NEVER keep up with inflation (by design) while your principle withers away into worthlessness.
And while you’re shitposting from your apartment in Tel Aviv, I’ll enjoy my gold and silver (permanent, tangible, secure) from the comfort of my paid off home. :)

Ps. Jannies can suck my fat cock for allowing this faggot to shit up a general.

>>56408521
Ugh, I forgot to buy during the dip. Dump eeet, or else I'll make you sniff my stinky feet!

>>56408636
Store it in impossible to find locations in various spots in your house AND put more money towards gold considering 5 tubes of silver equates effectively to 1 oz of gold.

Decided to switch to cigar boxes for future stacking. Do you recommend any box or humidor in particular or am I safe buying off eBay?

I think they’re beautiful and the smaller size compared to ammo boxes means less headache when transferring while full with silver and gold.

>>56408921
Or you could just buy real paper silver SLV and not pay a 40% premium or have to worry about burying your garbage rocks in 7 locations to prevent theft. Lmao the amount of work you morons put in to go broke is impressive

>>56408858
>Wah wah wah it's not fair that people are allowed to point out reasons to not buy silver because it's a giant scam with immediate 40% losses that also loses to inflation on an investment board, we should only be allowed to brag about losing all our $$$$$

>>56408774
Is there nothing boomers haven’t ruined?

>>56408955
>an investment board

>real paper silver
>garbage rocks
>lost 80%

>>56408826
Breaking up sales of things / withdrawals or deposits to avoid reporting requirements is itself a crime.

>>56408816
Lmao yall paid $45 for ASEs when you sell them for $25 why would you owe tax?

>>56408988
so is the pistol with a stock that i've posted pictures of

>>56408972
>Is there nothing boomers haven’t ruined?
i was gonna say "your mom," but that's one of the very first things they ruined.

yeah no, I can't think of anything.

>>56408991
>Lmao yall paid $45 for ASEs when you sell them for $25 why would you owe tax?
yes moron

boomers totally bought ASE's last year and never bought any in the previous 35 years of production

you fucking potato

>>56408992

>>56408992
weren't braces legal for a while there?

seems some would be grandfathered?

>>56408988
That's why we buy silver. Because fuck bankers.

>>56409008
Lmao you retards always buy high and sell low its funny you don't know that from personal experience

>>56409031
boomers buy high and sell low?

if you believe that I have a house to sell you.

My package is being shipped USPS it was supposed to be delivered today but wasn't and now when I check the tracking it's not giving me an ETA now
Should I be Goncerned?

>>56409024
yeah, they were legal for years. i'm not actually 100% sure on what the current status is, but i believe we can't have the brace on the weapon. it has to be kept separate.

>>56408943
>paper silver

>>56409083
that's some ex post facto bullshit.
if you bought it when it was legal they should allow it.
/rant

henlo frens
US national debt hit 100k per citizen today

>>56408218
Man, fuck the authorities.
That shit would go in my treasure chest.

>>56409106
>>56408824

>>56408237
The same thing anyone in this thread would do.
Keep it and horde it; it's literally free money.

>>56409100
none of it really makes sense when we can just go buy a bullpup. shorter than an actual sbr and it gets to keep all the advantages of the longer barrel without having to register it. what's the fucking point then?...

>>56408719
There is no VAT on gold in the UK, fudcuck

should i sell my car and get rid of all my debts before the big economic crisis? or will people with debt be rewarded.

>>56409106
Shit, better import a billion more third world retards to bring that average down.

>>56408382
A half I picked up recently.
Mentioned it in a previous thread, but it's pertinent again.

>>56408336
>MintID
Sell it next big pump.

>>56409126
You will never be allowed to win by trying to game the system. Only the big boys are allowed to do that. Your only recourse is to make yourself as free as possible until SHTF and, when they come for you, to take as many of them with you as possible.

>>56409128
i wouldn't be surprised if we start hearing from politicians about how we need more immigrants to help pay down the debt, kek

>>56409106
and biden just announced 100 billion to israel and ukraine lmao. death to weimerica

>>56409119
yep, the gun laws make no sense to me.
the other one is suppressors. completely illegal most of my life but suddenly they're just fine so long as you get a loicense. Like why were they banned for most of my life? ATF is nuts.
>>56408218
picrel

>>56409126
sell your car?

>>56409179
yep, downgrade

>>56409128
5 oz coins are kino. Do the buffaloes come in 10s?

>>56409189
inflation rewards holding debt.
so does bankruptcy court.
or mass defaults.

>>56408336
credit suisse is pure kino

>>56409189
Being mobile might be the most valuable physical thing you have.

>>56409160
it definitely seems like they're going to try to inflate the debt away

>>56409189
ah, hmmm, maybe but you need to give us some more details

>>56409146
I do want a classic Jericho in 9mm because of Cowboy Bebop. And I don't even really like anime overall, just good scifi.

>>56409210
Pretty sure that bank doesn't exist anymore. Those bars are going to be very collectible.

>>56409236
I wanted the original but I'm a cursed lefty and the J2 sits much better in my hand. Hoping they make a full steel version someday.

>>56409235
> it definitely seems like they're going to try to inflate the debt away
The thing is the average pleb is already having his balls squeezed. So they can't really keep this up much longer.

>>56409255
Checked. Not a bad choice. Still buying (((their))) firearms but I want a 941 and a .308 Tavor some day.

>>56409146
Based.
My SHTF "plan" (vague concept of a plan triggered by multiple untreated mental illnesses) is basically that.
I've worked in corrections before, and they will just have to kill me; I will NEVER become an inmate.

>>56409268
I enjoy the irony of using zog weapons against zog pets. And they make good kit. I'm keeping an eye on the IWI Carmel, see how people like it once they've had a year to play with it.

>>56409304
i've wanted an ace for a while now. how do you like the jericho?

>>56409132
thats a nice one.
I've been wanting to get more of those vintage half dollar silver commems.
so far all i got is a few of the Columbus commem halfs i might have posted it last time theses came up.
i really want one of the californias because of the prospector theme on it

>>56409336
Solid. Kind of bulky, not really a daily carry. But you can't go wrong with 17+1 rounds on home defense.

>>56409338
I had gotten it because of the Anti-Confederae sentiments over the past few years. I figure it's a matter iof time before some jackass decides to start melting them down, so when I saw one at a good price, I jumped on it.
I'll eventually pass it (along with the rest iof my stack) onto my son.

>>56409338
I’m on the lookout for a Delaware or pilgrim tercentary half dollar. The columbian expos are nice and affordable though.

>>56409126
You should be debtmaxxxing. They are gonna have a debt jubilee and print to the moon cause the government and most people are hopelessly irresponsible.

That 1300sqft house for 450k @8% may look bad now but in a couple years when it’s 800k @ 20% you’ll be wishing you had locked it in now.

You could buy real paper silver with no premium but yall chose to buy the fake stuff and suffer an immediate 40% loss. Lmao . Guaranteeing you will never make a profit.....but at least you get dem redddit points for posting your pictures over and over

>>56409371
Lmao remember a few years ago when mortgage rates were 1%? All these mental midgets knew the $ was going to collapse muh hyperflation and yet they didn't debtmax and buy houses....lmao they bought silver the worst performing asset

>>56409391
See
>>56408981

>>56409304
Get a BRN-180. It's the white man's piston rifle for the 21st century.

>>56408933
Just go to your local cigar shop. They will have stacks of empty boxes for a few dollars each. Pick out some nice wooden ones that you like.

New slurpin' frens to go along my stack. Unused stamp books (x3) from the Generalgouvernement zone, i.e. occupied Poland.

>>56409482
Gum still there, just a bit of saliva and they are ready to get posted. I'm very tempted to tongue Unc' Dolfie and slap him onto an envelop : destination Tel Aviv.

>>56409408
>when mortgage rates were 1%?
this is how we know you don't own a house

>>56409162
They have never been banned federally, you are mistaken. On a federal level suppressors have been regulated (basically) the same way since 1934. ATF is gay and wrong and so are you. Many such cases!!! Watch this https://youtu.be/1VWcGwPJQfc if you want to know more.

>>56409482
>>56409503
Only paid 10€ for the 3 books, pretty damn cheap.
I'll soon open a 3rd Reich museum at this rate kek, between the dishes, buttons, scopes, coins, stamps, books,...
Should make a family pic alongside my stack one of these days. Because i see it as an investment just like my PMs. And considering the current J fatigue worldwide, i expect them to go up much more than gold.

>>56409536
>ATF is gay and wrong and so are you
kek

fair enough, I'm no expert on firearm laws. I also never saw a suppressor anywhere until very recently. If they were legal, nobody had them.

Man, I've never seen FUD to the extent that has been happening in /pmg/ threads, lately.
Nobody is going to just sit in threads all day, posting hundreds of posts about how good metals are as an investment, getting into simultaneous arguments with people and making pathetic attempts at memes all day for weeks on end, just out of the goodness of their hearts, to try and help people make a good investment.

There is definitely money behind the FUD shills, they have been employed by coin dealers who want people buying silver, in particular.
They've even started making multiple threads to disrupt /pmg/ cos they couldn't use arguments and were unable to make the threads unbearable (despite a lot of effort on their part).
The only conclusion that can be drawn is that we are over the target and silver is a massive scam

Fuck bros I need to make more money the itch is getting too much to bare and I need more.

Bitcoin and Gold chads where you at?

>>56408336
>MintID

>>56408955
Ask me how I know you’re jewish

>>56409586
Was only busting your balls anon. There are two reasons you never saw suppressors. They were banned in your state and are now unregulated
(on the state level, still have to deal with ATF fuckery no matter what your state says. Although some have tried to give ATF the finger ex. Texas (and one other state cant think of it right now) allows you to make a suppressor(s) with in state materials as long as they stay in Texas (or the other state I cant currently think of), ATF says thats still illegal and Texas says we won't help the feds investigate.) or the fact that the NFA game has gotten very big in recent years along with the greater gun rights movements, or both. Sorry if this is aids to read, I kinda gave up on making it easy to read.
> I LOVE PRECIOUS METALS

kinda want to clean all my cull junk

>>56409813
I will have another mass cleaning this Saturday, I don’t regret it. It’s been 8 months since I laid the wipe to the junk, it’s time to harvest.

>>56409813
It was a fun experience to try.

>>56409826
The gentleman’s choice

>>56409753
not legal advice btw. I'm gay and made it all up. (:

>NR888

>>56409826
I'll probably not do my mercs cause that's way too much work and they look better with a bit of dirt than other coins, but the other random junk I have would be a bit spiffier.

I'm also assuming that coin shops wouldn't sell me rare numismatic coins in their cull deals

>>56409837
what did you do to clean yours? I've got a bunch of morgans in varying degrees of roughness

>>56409661
Is it really so bad tho?

I’m about to hack it with my flipper.

>>56408163
I have a kilo of prewar. Did you grab it from the guy in SA?

>>56409636
Coin dealers make money by hiring shillbots to spread FUD, and charging exorbitant premiums. that is their scam. Silver is bought cheaply from JP Morgan which happily offloads the outdated currency when the dealers shift into a shilling mode 9000. The "Silver" is created when the price of the coin from JP Morgan is added to the balance of that central bank after the dealer buys it. The coin dealer must pay it back at interest, and they themselves are allowed to charge out or "sell" several times this amount of silver at premiums to the buyers, AKA the shillees. Hence the 6 week delivery times, or float in industry parlance, of silver sold at "fair" premiums. The overall object is not even so much to make money. money (or rather, usury) is simply a tool by which they attempt to control the general public. the fed is a private organization and has private shareholders and very profitable and desires to continue existing. By deactivating the victims from taking effective actions against the FED they achieve this goal.

>>56390702
Worth it. I can't wait.

>>56409846
Nahh

>>56409854
Just sell it. I drilled a hole through some coin I bought on eBay. Took it to my dealer. It was real. Paid me spot (minus what I took out) which I still have.. Bought something else.

>>56409893

>my dealer

Kektop, you silver scam victims really are like drug addicts getting your fix from dealers down the block.

Out of curiosity how much have you spent on your habit and how much have you lost?

>>56409893
Well as I mentioned previously I bought it right after the queen died as it was the Britannia of the year. My reasons were that it was the year she died and it was in the case so it is mint condition. The RFID was a bonus.

As someone who knows a thing of two about the tech I can safely say that if someone was close enough to scan the chip they’d already have everything else in my safe and if it was a state actor I’d be well fucked at that point anyway so I’m gonna keep it.

>>56409933
>Kektop, you silver scam victims really are like drug addicts getting your fix from dealers down the block
It’s funny because it’s true!
>>56409939
>The RFID was a bonus.
Idk I’ve lived my life so that if I ever said those words. I wouldn’t recognize myself.

The "kektop" thing is really bizarre with this new IQDELET the last couple weeks. It's like some ESL shit.

>>56410016
He’s been doing that for a long time. It’s funny, getting boring though. I’d rather have some bobbish fud it really sinks into your bones, some old man just “telling it like it is”.

>>56410045
That would be a fun new character to have around here.

What is your stacking plan, frens?

>raw weight?
>numismatics?
>a mix between the two?

I’m torn as to whether 10 oz bars or tubes of generics is a better move versus coins. Do the dates and recognition by a government versus Asahi or buffalos justify the sometimes steep price difference?

>>56410090
>What is your stacking plan, frens?

If you have the constitution raw weight is key,
I’ve absorbed more than enough boomer stacks at coin auctions to know that in the end raw weight is all that matters.

>>56410090
Generics and stuff like dimes, quarters and half dollars for potential actual trading, 1oz coins for more savings related/bigger purchases, bars and meme coins and vanity coins for savings you probably won't spend, gold ounces purely for savings. That's how I see it.

>>56410090
Artistic and interesting, prioritized by potential numismatic growth.

>>56410090
My plan is to get rich by not falling for the silver scam

You have 2 choices
1. Lose 80 to 100% on silver
2. Make returns of 500 to 10,000% by not buying silver

You fell for the scam so you choose option 1. To be a loser. Lmao bars, rounds, unicorn figurines that's all irrelevant You already lost.

I chose option 2 so I don't have to be a wagie I get to educate retards for fun. Silver is a scam but go ahead give your $$$$$ to your enemies. Lmao

>>56409876
I don't buy silver

Reminder that /pmg/ is plagued more by bots and shills than any general on /biz/ and is only rivaled by late night /pol/ threads.

>>56410135
>potential actual trading

Look at how brainwashed this tard is, yeah you are totally prepared to be mad max and withstand hordes of zombies which is gonna happen in 2 weeks with your little bag of silver. Utterly delusional. But at the same time funny, this is what fear and greed does. THIS guy was fudded into mental illness and it's permanent

Anyone know of a good coin shop in the Austin area?

>>56410186
> and is only rivaled by late night /pol/ threads.
Those are some of the best, have I been having great conversations with glowniggers for a decade?

>>56410090
Mix of both personally. I've already mostly reached my goal for raw weight, so now i just have to wait for the metal value to go up, which let me time to focus a bit more on the numis side. And now is a pretty great time to dive in, because so many boomers are croaking/going to the retirement home, and their heirs are dumping their collections for way below the market price of few years prior, since they have no attachment to it they don't care. They just want a quick bux.

Like the stamps in a way, but nothing as dramatic, since stamp collections lost approx 99% of their value over the last decade. It's pretty disheartening to witness this trend on ebay, where you see auctions titled "$9,500 collection" going for $2. But numis will rebound eventually (i hope). Though stamps collection lost it's appeal also because nobody sends letters anymore. It's something who left the collective mind pretty much entirely. And coins are following the same digitalization trend. In a not so distant future, coins as a whole will entirely disapear and kids will wonder what those round pieces of metal could have been used for. So maybe coinage will too be doomer to disappear from the collective mind, as most non-digitalized things.
That's why i also like to delve into silverware, because no matter how digitalized the neo-human become, he'll always have to put something in his mouth and chew it up to survive.

Unless we end up like in Matrix, with needles and gastric tubes feeding us with dead corpses of course.

But when i talk about numis, i only take into account real numismatics, with sovl. Meaning circulating coins who became collectibles, but weren't destined to. Not modern meme trash like this >>56410073 where bullion dealers come up with a new design every two minutes to try to rip you off with insane premiooms. 99% of those will end up in the for-melt-value bin within a decade. They always do. You can't force something into becoming a collectible just out of greed.

>>56409753
>Was only busting your balls anon.
It was a sick burn, it honestly made me laugh out loud :D
what you say makes sense though. The other thing I was thinking is $200 was a lot of money when an SKS cost one hundred and an AK was maybe four. Anyways, it's cool to see suppressors at the range all the time now. Shoulda happened a long time ago.

>>56410045
>I’d rather have some bobbish fud it really sinks into your bones, some old man just “telling it like it is”.
>>56410073
>That would be a fun new character to have around here.
I've been here all week

granted I've been arguing with IQ'LET all day just for fun, but I'm still here. Last time I ran some serious fud I got banned for a month. So now I just chat with the unbannable one.

>>56409753
>parenthesis within a parenthesis within a parenthesis
You aren't coding bro, there are other ways to formulate extensions of your initial thought kek

>>56409482
>>56409503
>>56409573
Nice find anon. Saving history can be the most valuable part of stacking anything

>>56410368
>Unless we end up like in Matrix, with needles and gastric tubes feeding us with dead corpses of course.
It'll quickly move beyond that

if we have the tech to create a completely convincing virtual reality, we also have the tech to move our minds out of our bodies and into the machines. No body to feed, just a bunch of servers hosting human minds.

this may have already happened.

I love that you get the difference between real numismatics and the modern "coins" that were never meant to be circulated. Regarding stamps, and common collector coins, I think ebay killed them off by showing how many are out there. Stuff you'd never see in your local store you can now find thousands of online.

>>56409482
>>56409573
>Only paid 10€
that seems really cheap. nice find

>>56408361
Damn beauty

>>56410460
>if we have the tech to create a completely convincing virtual reality, we also have the tech to move our minds out of our bodies and into the machines.

Not possible, enjoy your doom fiction though.

>>56410531
>Not possible,
perhaps, but nobody would know the difference.

>>56410460
Yes this is a terrifying thought, even though it also could become pure bliss. So many ethical, philosophical and power dynamics issues to solve when your humanity will be reduced to bits in a server.
But it's far from done yet.

And even then, who will take care of the machines if we all are reduced to bits in a machine? Robots? But then doesn't it mean they will eventually have the capacity to enslave or even terminate us as they see fit? Or couldn't they simply duplicate our minds and declare themselves as humans as we?

And would it mean we will doomed to an eternity of suffering (anything too long become suffering), with immortal souls trapped in a machine, and no way to spawn new humans? Imagine having the same retarded romanian playing fornite as digital proxy neighbor for all eternity lol.
And without the ability to have kids and without the prospect of death, what would push humans to accomplish anything? Wouldn't that trap us in a nihilist mindset?
Isn't the value of life residing in the fact we know it eventually ends?
What about the power structure too? Once again death is the great equalizer, no matter the hubris of the richest, no matter how superior they fooled themselves to believe they are, they all have to bow down to the Great Reaper eventually. Without this, how do you limit the absolute accumulation of power in the hands of the same elite? Isn't it reaching godhood?

>>56410599
you get it. You get all of it.

we'd have to create a reality where we could have kids and we'd have to create a reality where we could not only die but also fear death. We'd need struggles and disappointments to bring joy to our accomplishments. It would be very much like this reality.

regarding the robots enslaving us or taking our minds, that would be a meaningless distinction since we would be those robots. We would volunteer our minds to become robots, and those robots would be all that's left of humanity.

this is the meaning of the singularity, and we are moving towards it as fast as we can. If such a thing is even possible. This anon may also be right
>>56410531

>>56410453
>Saving history can be the most valuable part of stacking anything
Well said, i believe this too. It's also our duty. The J already erased, rewrited and replaced so much of our history to fit their narrative in the past hundred years, we can't let them destroy our history entirely, or via this amnesia we risk to lose everything we hold dear in the process.
Fighting to save our collective memories might be the most important fight actually.

>>56410501
Yeah i couldn't believe it, but it was the starting auction price and i was the only bidder, so maybe it simply flew under the radar and i got lucky.. Anyhow, i wont complain! It should arrive by the post today or tomorrow.

>Silver

You mean those shiny rocks that actually go down in value no matter what market circumstances or conditions are at play?

Literally RECORD inflation and debt, and it's nosediving.

>"But but but the paper will come. Margin call will show them ALL!"

FUCKING BULLSHIT. They will never ever let the price of silver go up. They will never EVER show there cards by slling their paper.

>>56410045
omg i agree 100%
if they want to FUD us, they have to be the old man just telling us like it is
that's the FUD that really gets to me, man

Silver is the biggest fucking meme

1) Literal Pokemon Cards
2) Dirt Piles
3) Literal wood shavings
4) Literal fucking old basketball shoes
5) FUCKING B RATED COMIC BOOKS
6) Lego sets
7) Dress socks from Target
8) Boxes of cookies
9) Trader Joe's Spices
10) Bottles of FUCKING WATER
11) Trucker hats
12) Fucking gift cards (I'm sure)
13) Pairs of fucking SCISSORS from the 99 Cents Store
14) Fucking taco shells in the original box
15) Old Sony Walkmans
16) A fucking DVD that's been thrown around a back alley with gravel like a frisbee
17) LITERAL FUCKING FRISBEES
18) Frisbees with dog chew marks all over it
19) Yo Yos from the 1990s
20) ANGRY BIRDS...(used from the Goodwill box)
22) Toilet paper.....LITERALLY
23) Used face masks
24) Unopened boxes of tooth paste
25) Old pants
26) Stussy shirts
27) That set of candles that you passed up at your neighbor's fucking Yard Sale
28) A jug of water (unopened)
29) A literal used bottle of water
30) Literally the fucking water bottle itself

There's about 30 things that you can buy which will have a better return than physical Silver, on a 1 year chart, 5 year chart, or 10 year chart, 20 year chart, 3 week chart, 1 week chart.

>>56410681

>>56410629
>this is the meaning of the singularity, and we are moving towards it as fast as we can
Maybe we already are experiencing the 50th iteration of this ultra-immersive simulation, and this irresistible march toward the singularity is our collective consciousness desperately trying to free us from the lie we are currently living by showing us the process by which it already happened so many times.
And every time we finally figure out we were already in a super advanced simulation we ourselves modelized, we create a new one so immersive we lose all capacity to remember we are in one, due to the lack of observers.

Simulacra & simulation conondrum. It pretty much was first encapsulated by the gnostics, telling us we are living a demiurgic manisfestation, a simulation gone wrong where the material plan entrapped us at the shittiest level.
And in a way, even before that by the symbolism behind reincarnation, where we repeat always the same mistakes in a loop in which our eternal soul is doomed to experience forced amnesia at each cycle. Amnesia we may force upon ourselves because the truth is too absurd or ironic to accept.

>>56410735
but then we have to wonder if our believed history is not true, why does it seem to make sense? Why should past events lead logically to current ones if they in fact didn't happen?

is the meaning of our existence like the meaning in a dream or a drug trip, where we wake and find it was all nonsense all along?

truth is absurd no matter what it turns out to be, but the easiest way to stop a cycle of avoiding it would simply be to say it, and accept it, and hopefully be ok with it.

>>56410715
>19) Yo Yos from the 1990s
Man i loved this shit the first 30sec, then i hated having to rewind it for the next minute. You forgot the Pogs too.
But in the end, marbles were always the superior option.

>>56410754
>Why should past events lead logically to current ones if they in fact didn't happen?
I'm not implying they didn't happen, but that they all lead to the same result eventually. If we imagine it takes us 11,500 years to complete a self-realization cycle for example. From the point we enter a new simulation (golden age), to the point we forget we are in one (complete immersion phase), to then redevelop the tools to understand the nature of what we consider the reality (we are here), to then the creation of a new one. Bis repetita.

>>56410735
>>56410754
Look into gnosticism, and why its false. I feel like this will save you guys a lot of time.

>>56410785
Of course this is only a hypothesis ad absurdum. It's not what i believe, since i don't know what to believe in.
But i think ancient vedic, gnostic, etc.. texts have some truth to it, concerning this material reality as a sort of (partially self-inflicted) prison realm.
But enough disgression for me, i'm too tired to derail this poor bread any more than that kek.

>>56410785
>I'm not implying they didn't happen, but that they all lead to the same result eventually
the result is undeniable, but the history wouldn't necessarily be true. I'm thinking of the "bottom of the stack" problem. There must be some first world that developed the technology to create simulations, and if we aren't in that first world our history may be completely different from the original one. It may make sense in this simulation, but be nothing like reality.

In that case the absurd truth we were trying to avoid may not exist in our simulation, and may not even be possible to imagine. Though this reality is certainly absurd enough to want to escape, which would have to be true of all realities that produce simulations.

Silver Scammer FUDing
Muh hyperflation
Muh collapse
Muh COMEX shuffle
Muh JPMorgan
Muh BRICs
Muh petrodollar

If you hear any of these buzzwords, you know you are dealing with a low IQ antisemitic brain dead broke wagie who blew his whole wad on garbage rocks. Fun fact they don't even know what those terms mean, but if they did they would be quacking a different tune

>>56410805
It's a topic i delved quite a bit actually. I do not believe to be false per say, but i understand why the church tried to debunk it at all cost, because those are very dangerous beliefs to any society's survival if pushed to the extreme. The cathars being the perfect example of why.

>>56410811
>i'm too tired to derail this poor bread any more than that kek.
me too, I enjoyed reading what you have to say.

back to metals. Gold go up. Silver next maybe. Things are looking good.

>>56410832
Same here fren. For me it's back to bed, 8am and i've yet to sleep (not for very long). Argh.
See you all tonight.

>>56410832
>>56410847
These are the late night Convos I was talking about, I feel very good about the future, and wish you good dreams that inspire you the next day.
Mental Ill kikes, may you suffer eternally…

Is now a good time to buy silver? I'm shit at reading charts.

>>56410831
What aspect's do you lend credence too? The only aspects of gnosticism that ever rang true to me were those they shared with the early church.

>>56410876
It's not a bad time, it will likely go up for awhile but no one knows after that.

Getting a silver starter pack at spot price is never a loss.

What ever happened to that Templar pepe silver coin? still haven't gotten mine

>>56410862
if nothing else, IQDELET has managed to make the original bob look good by comparison.

another absurd irony. see you again tomorrow.

>>56410912
The FUD shills are really starting to make me have doubts about silver. I just want it for an inflation resistant savings account. I'm I should have bought more when it dipped last week.
I'm in Australia, I have no idea where to get anything like that :(

>>56409269
I also work in corrections and the most important lessons I have learned is about home security. Literally all you need is a barricade on the door that can be installed in 10 minutes and people won't be able to boot your door in. That prevents home invasion and ALL members of the criminal element use similar barricades. For when you're gone get a motion sensor camera for your door that sends a direct feed to your phone. If someone boots your door when you're gone it sends an alert and cam feed to your phone and you call the police.

simple as.

Gold has just broke its all time high in British Pounds.

>>56410179
What’s the best investment then?

>>56411580
feeding eldery jewish women

Don't buy metals goy

>>56411053
If the FUD is getting to you then just leave lol these are the worst fud shills I have ever seen. I have no idea how it’s even having an effect on you. When you actually stack metals it doesn’t matter what others say. Just buy a single oz and you will see for yourself.

>>56411053
>smol brain
Your money will be bailed in to the banks and you're worried about beating inflation kek
Lurk moar

>>56408138
today i bought my first gold bar. 5 grams of 999.9

The coin store called and said they're running out of cheapies

>>56408336
Based British Commonwealth supporter

>>56411727
>buys gold when price tops

do you guys honestly think the price will keep raising?

>>56411760
it is unlikely that we stop here. there is so much fiat sloshing around today, gold has much catching up to do

>>56411760
It will keep going up and then crash down to 1700 again

The price will become more volatile as the world politics heat up

Is this beef jerky fucked?

>>56411760
>Do you precious metal speculators actually believe the price of precious metals will go up?

>>56408409
>nfc
>gps tracker

>>56411760
i dont give a shit. also i dont pretend to know future prices because im not a magician

>>56409162
>suppressors
they were never banned; just got easier and more mainstream thanks to companies like silencerco

>>56411727
hell ya! what brand??

>>56411760
Ive no idea about shorter term prices of an artificially manipulated market, but I garuntee the US dollar will be worth less than it is now; tomorrow, next month, and next year.

>>56411791
Lmao these retards think the price is going up. Silver is down 54% over the last 10 years 80% including premiums

Does anyone here stare at the U.S. debt clock? I like to make a mental note of where it’s at then come back a week later. Last time I did this it was an additional 100 billion dollars. It is starting to pick up a lot of speed.

>>56411948
It’s only going to go faster now that the government has its mind set on war.

>>56411727
Congratulations on your losses

>>56411737
Lmao you sure are excited to be paying 65% premiums!

muh hedge against inflation!

>>56411727
how do you know it's gold and not tungsten inside?

We need to start adding a clause into the general OP that posters in these threads denounce the talmud and the sovereignty of israel

>>56412011
Lmao you antisemites with tiny racist brains love to give your money to your enemies. Maybe lose the hate and stop loving the silver scam. A 40 % premium is a terrible thing

>>56412011
The Jews are God's chosen people and he gave them the land of Israel as promised to Abraham. This is where Jesus will return so it's a very important place right now. Read the Bible, accept Jesus, and support Israel.

>>56412051
>>56412042
Post nose.

>>56411948
Was keeping an eye on the real G/S price until they set it to 0

>>56412011
Based. I don't listen to anyone who doesn't post pics of their stacks. Eliminates a lot of doubt.

>muh fud
>muh premiums
>im selling my stack
>never made any gains

These posters hold ZERO precious metals and therfor their opinions are worth ZERO

>>56411967
There really is no way forward for the USA but catastrophic inflation. The Fed can continue to reign in credit but the government has lost any last vestiges of fiscal restraint and the rest of the world has stopped financing it. As we sink further into recession, the government will pour more money into the pockets of its friends and all of that money will have to be created. The value of the dollar will look strong for awhile as credit money collapses, but in the end it will go to zero as government tries to squeeze the last bit of value out of a terminally-ill economy.

Stack-on, frens.

>>56409846
Boiling water in an aluminum foil lined pot with baking soda.

>>56412191
Lmao yall retards are washing your silver away. Buy real paper silver next time Idiot avoid the fi look th and huge premiums

>PaPeR sIlVeR
Imagine being this foolish. Like you have to have a room temperature IQ.

>real paper silver

kek

>>56412213

>>56412185
Lmao that's why you bought garbage rocks that lose to inflation

>>56412215
I did not F5. Great minds think alike.

Remember folx, none of these retards who "know" there will be hyperflation in 2 weeks took out a mortgage at 1% when Houses were cheap.


Lmao they bought retard rocks instead and lost 80%

56412208
56412213
This is a scamB0T shilling worthless metal with a 40% premium. Notice the posting times

Filter the fuds, stack precious metals, get strong, be kind, build your skills, and cultivate patience. This goes against the current sweeping the world into the abyss.

Bought a lot of pm's and budgeted. I have saved enough for these last three months to have a cheat meal. Should I make bourbon chicken or general tso's chicken today? Also I don't use seed oils in case people are concerned.

>>56412245
>mortgage at 1%

What country had mortgage interest rates of 1%? I refinanced at the absolute bottom a few years ago, switching to a 15 year mortgage and locked in a 2.5% interest rate. As far as I was aware I got just about the best interest rate possible, please show me where and from what lender 1% was the standard rate and I'll do better next time.

>>56412290
>asking a bot for proof

Never go full retard.

>>56412096
Can somebody explain what all the new numbers mean?

>>56412096
Do you know why they set it to zero? What do that but not the dollar to silver ratio 5 yr?

>>56412290
Listen to your master>>56412303
Lmao I love how you Silver scam victims love to try to dominate each other like the bitches you are. Rightfully so when you brag about 40% premiums you are being very submissive. Anywho. Congratulations on your 80% losses you earned them

>>56412315
They literally mean nothing, just buy silver and lose 80% chump

>>56412392
I remember buying silver at $50/ounce in 2011, what a waste. Everyone said it was about to explode to $500/ounce.

>>56412275
based

>>56412473
I'll buy your silver off you to cover your losses if you would like

Does anyone have recommendations for how to clean a silver bar and remove tarnish like this?

>>56412289
General tso
Make it spicy

>>56412581
Boil of hot water in microwave till it’s hot to touch
Stir baking soda in tbsp by tbsp to saturation
Lay aluminum foil
Lay bar, let sit
Flip bar
Jewelry books and crannys while in solution
Dry, jewelry wipe. Might have to do the battery method again

>>56410946
production sample arrived

>>56412648
Amazing. Sad I missed the crusader pre-order, won’t miss the pirate though.

>>56409338
>I've been wanting to get more of those vintage half dollar silver commems.

My dad and I have been pooling cash/bullion and actively building that set since the based LCS bought a big and advanced collection of commemorative halves they were willing to sell at great prices. Those old commemorative halves represent the last best "secret" niche of US coin collecting where you get great value in aesthetics and rarity for your money. Issues like the Oregon Trail half are truly magnificent to behold, and with a relatively high total mintage of around 200,000 it's still more rare than something like a 1916-D Merc dime which will cost 5-figs in similar Uncirculated condition. I know that commemoratives were made to be kept pristine unlike normal coins struck for circulation, but the "value" you get from sub-$200 coins that are more rare and interesting and sometimes more beautiful than that 1916-d merc which would cost $50,000 in the same grade is very appealing. Picrel are a few we got from the collection, the old flips were from the previous owner and the prices we paid were less than what is marked on them, between 2/5th and 2/3rd of their going rate on eBay depending on the coin. The prospect of collecting full sets of boring overpriced circulation-strike issues lost its appeal many years ago but these old commemoratives remain particularly exciting and interesting. 10/10 would recommend.

>>56410950
>IQDELET has managed to make the original bob look good by comparison.

Kek, we never knew how good we had it when we only had to contend with your booze-fueled shitposting-for-sport. At least you are a real human bean and could be convinced to break character and occasionally share some quality wisdom and advice.

>>56412289
>bourbon chicken
Definitely this, unless you can craft a truly superior General Tso's.

>>56412648
This is the one.

>>56412303
I was probing the parameters of DELETbot, I don't know if it's fully automated or if it has a handler who'll insert information the script can't address.

>>56412768
it more than likely handler who switches out with it. would explain all the same fagging that occurs

>>56410950
>bob
trying to create chan lore on the backend. fucking gayer than aids dude

mfw the shillbot tries to discourage people about PMs when gold is inching near an all-time high

>>56412813
Yeah I’ve been on pmg for about 2 years now and I have never once read anything about “Bob”.

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

we going to 2k today basterds

Silver To the Moon!

>>56410368
Is 16.90 euro a gud price for these? I went on numista and there's like a dozen different variants of this coin. Anyway it would just be "random year" so probably nothing too special.
The price comes out above spot, by about 1 euro or so.

looks like we're breaking $24 today
could this be it?

kek rmember when people where buying silver that said minted during the covid 19 pandemic. What losers. And those dudes that thought covid was started by a bat so the bay coins were selling for a premium. kek dummies

>>56408218
>>immediately goes to the authorities
please tell me it isn't true

okay anons, I'm a tourist here, what do you recommend for someone who has never invested before? I don't like (((them))) and I figured you can't go wrong with gold. I was thinking of buying bars for a house and vacation for my mother in a few years, what do you think?

>>56413161
some people never learn.

Don't get too exited guys, they're gonna tamp it down back to 23 later today.

>>56413228
will be interesting to see if they do or not.
seem $24 is a key resistance point and if it breaks that it could be a sign or beginning of a runaway train.

>>56413252
No, $30 is the key psycological point.
With gold comfortably over $2k it's gonna put alot of pressure on silver to move higher.

we need a live spot price ticker pasted into the sticky

>>56413228
>>56413252
I believe that there is extreme risk in the market at this moment and people are placing their bets on the safety-trade.
The MMRI is over 325 and reflects risk in the market as dollar strength as well as rising interest rates pose potential problems for other asset values.
RRP is unwinding from topping $2TN.
Meme stocks are still a festering wound in the financial system that are likely forcing very large distortions for the capital markets as overleveraged financial institutions pose systemic risk to one another via the derivatives market.
If for some reason a major event happens and retail has some sort of windfall, I think that will be a major catalyst to allow PMs to move higher to prevent the plebs from blowing out the metals market.
Much of the financial shackles imposed on us is actually carefully controlling the amount of demand in the system and keeping people in debt and on the hamster wheel. I have no doubt that the central banks will make moves that will cull any purchasing power we grab for ourselves.

>>56408138
Knew I should have bought calls of slv and gld when gold hit 1840 and silver 22s.
>in4b muh stack physical. I have a massive stack of physical but I also play the market and buy calls. Helps me add to my physical stack.

>>56412648
Very nice!
So now you give it a thumbs-up?
Then how long before delivery to you?
(Do I seem anxious?)

>>56413622
calm down anon-chan

>>56413506
I bought some SIVR calls a few weeks ago, up $800 today. Could have bought 10x as many with the free cash sitting idle in the brokerage but that's hindsight for ya. Rotating paper proceeds into $10/oz silver cheapies is comfy.

>be world leader
>attempt to create your own bank based on the gold standard
>suddenly youre a villain and killed

why does it have to be like this bros

Seriously wtf is going on

>>56413409
It's already been proven that the MMRI is not a good indicator in risk in the market.
Meanwhile the MMMRI is a more accurate indicator of risk in the market.
The MMMRI is basically the MMRI×debt/GDP ratio.

>>56413741
War.

>>56413741
(((War)))

$.07 to go to $24
looks like this is it boys!

crypto nerds will seethe

>>56413741
The central banks are pricing out the plebs from PMs because they are ready to start the short squeeze. The market is going to crash and unfortunately a massive campaign to buy and hold and NEVER sell was kicked off in an idiosyncratic fashion on securities that were massive naked short. As the tide recedes their collateral will be insufficient to maintain the short trades and a massive rush to close these illegal positions is about to ensue.

im starting to think the cheapies are gone

>>56413741
I don't know what the hubbub is honestly

>>56413741
The collapse of their system

>>56414037
it looks like arab countries are allying against israel. it's about to become isn'trael, after a long protracted war

>>56412240

>>56412334
>Do you know why they set it to zero?
The US Government stopped reporting the M2 Money Supply in the last year or 2 so it cant be calculated what the real price is so they just put it to 0 with an asterix symbol.

>>56408719
Gold is VAT and CGT exempt in the UK.

I would prefer it if prices remained low

>>56413707
To be fair, he fucked up by funding the IRA against Britain. Then when the country collapsed into civil war it gave Britain an easy time to kill him.

>>56414394
wouldn't we all, fren
wouldn't we all

i never thought i would buy one of these statues, but now i want another one

>>56414533
Very cool. Do you have it displayed out in the open or do you have it hidden with the rest of your stack?

>>56414533
yeah i love silver statues

>>56408774
>knows your exact physical location
Nothing personal

>>56414563
ill probably just put it on a shelf

>>56414533
You would likely be condemned to selling online as I’ve only been to one PM shop that was interested in silver art.

With that said, I too love them even with the stupid high premiums. Silver’s silver even when shaped like a mammoth.

i really wish i would have bought one more gold coin the other week

>>56408762
ASEs used to be $40 minimum not too long ago kek

>>56414587
>You would likely be condemned to selling online as I’ve only been to one PM shop that was interested in silver art.
this is "grave silver"

I'm at the barbershop.

>>56414703
I’ve been cutting my own hair since 2020

New thread
>>56414794
>>56414794
>>56414794

>>56414796
>I’ve been cutting my own hair since 2020
I've been cutting my own for the past decade. Saves me so much $, just evenly buzz it down and call it a day.

>>56414533
ayyy Wooly boi

>>56414813
> just evenly buzz it down and call it a day.
Same.

>>56412813
>>56412990
bob is just a previous version of IQDELET

it's not lore, and nobody talks about it because nobody liked it. But IQDELET is starting to make that old trolling seem almost cerebral and warm by comparison.

>>56414813
Yep. For a pro look I went a few months ago. $35! Fuck that.

>>56413101
Europanon here. I would buy every one they have at that price.

>>56414643
Respect. I have a defined split between stack to sell for housewives and goblin slaves and those that will be buried or inherited. Gonna be fun watching my son explain the priceless Aputannia heirloom

>>56414803
worst OP I've seen in a while, you should kys