/biz/ - Business & Finance

>calls themselves “marines

>so soft they have to block people on discussion platform to prevent melting down

Bahahaha. Am I the only one seeing the irony in this. How the fuck are you a “marine”

>>56398439

>>56398439

Kek. Advoshits are pathetic.

>>56399257
Go pay him a visit if you know where hea at anon

>>56399257
>he’s been posting this for a year now
>he hasn’t paid him a visit
No surprise here, advocates are cowards lmaoooo

>>56398439
why doesnt clg remotely understand that the fud will continue until the price improves?

>>56399327
He knows it, but he gets paid by the chainlink team to wrangle biz incels. That’s why he gets mad when the narrative gets out of control from his army of shills.

>captcha: Ih8Advokeks

>>56398439
Based thomas BTFOING cringe incel chainlinkgod
Super based FUD king. Its time to fud these chaincels to 0 for the lulz

>>56398470
The only kind of marines they are are submarines cause theyre all sinking underwater xD

>>56399470
>>56399477
this guy always posts two in a row. have a (you) engagement farmer.

>>56399282
>>56399306
>>56399319
>>56399348
>>56399470
>>56399477
>fudcuck starts switching ids, seething, crying, and shitting his pants once
>>56399257
gets posted because he tried to advertise his literal who tier twitter account on here again
i wonder where some good places are to post that image along with "a crypto holder lives here, and this is what he looks like" for the luls
i know Bram has been messaged a few things about Adem, and a few of his friends - which explains why he's so upset

So clg the retarded nigger is right for once, and this made a porn addict so irate that he's trying to spam biz with threads about it? Because these retarded nufudder latefags think that anyone cares about what a dumb pseud cunt like clg anyway?
Wow holy based definitely gonna sell 100k over this one! Great work, brownoid! Hope you get a raise from The Success Factory this year so you can subscribe to more porn sites!

>>56399587
>i wonder where some good places are to post that image along with "a crypto holder lives here, and this is what he looks like" for the luls
Cowardly advocate posts cowardly words instead of doing something himself. L.O.L.! Who cares? You’ve been posting the same dox for over a year now.

>>56399257
Is that where your mom lives? Also, you have no balls (bc of…you know, the cult)

>>56399520
Thanks brother. Thats my trademark, just like the Wet Bandits

>>56399656
>incoherent virgin talk

L M A O you dont get out much do you? Also, just as a reminder: I own you

so, just to be clear, this thread can be summarized as
>twitterfag 1 is making twitter posts on 4chan about their twitter drama with twitterfag 2, and twitterfag 1 is spamming biz with this twitterfag 1 is upset over being doxxed on 4chan even though he was the one spamming 4chan
>apparently his online slapfight with twitterfag 2 that he and his other twitterfag friends keeps posting about, is meant to make people on here sell a decentralized oracle token that banks are looking at using
yeah just... go the fuck back to twitter and stay there? you're all fuckin losers lol, and im just not gonna sell
s & h

>>56399735
>if you get your irl details posted on 4chan and now everyone knows that you're an irate coomer, that means you own 4chan!

>>56400198

>>56398439
Great, now like I posted yesterday: ask him how much money he made shilling that glowie scam Defi Money Market (DMM) to OG linkies

>>56399587
>shit in ur thread
>leave
>omg its da samefag paid fudders bulga.. I mean VCs!!
Same id, schizo mental asylum patient
Its meds time btw

>>56398439
>spooky stories
>just a few holders in an echo chamber

Does this guy really not realise holders are pissed off at Chainlink hoarding customers fees and dumping link? This is reality, not fud. The company is literally profiting from holders and shitting on the token. He's the one in an echo chamber slurping the team's jizz and telling fairy tales

>>56399327
Because it was already happening when Link's price action was the best in the industry.
This insane fud spam has nothing to do with Link's price action, it's just gatekeeping beta hipsters trying to keep "muh normies" out.

>>56400614
see >>56400636

>>56400636
At that time they weren't getting customers to pay, they do now. Token holders are expecting the network value to be reflected in the token. But now, the more fees they get, the more dilution will happen, adoption has the opposite effect on price. This is worth at least a serious discussion, but I guess easier to just label it as fud

>>56400681
>At that time they weren't getting customers to pay, they do now.
That's the whole point.

You claim people are fudding because Chainlink is hoarding fees while selling tokens, but the fud was exactly as insane as today before any of that.

>>56400685
Fud was fun, everyone with a brain could read through it. I wasn't fudding at that point. Now it's very different. Now I'm angry for this very specific reason I just described and I'm labeled a fudder. I suspect that's the case for a lot of marines. Add to that the advocates and twitter gay faggots trying to just wave it as oh it's just good old fud and it's even worse. This is why the price won't move. Have you not noticed how the only ones left shilling link are euphoric advocates, got a hint already?

>>56400733
same here
im enraged
fucking LIVID
and i used to be chainlink's biggest fan
now? i just cant even

>>56399257
>>56399306

>>56400733
>Fud was fun
Fud was exactly as schizoid, repetitive, spammy, retarded, ... as it is today.
Actually open the image.

>>56400823
thank you based Zachary

>>56400845
What?

>>56400848
Can I get your autograph????

>>56400848
Holy basedo king zach I just fucked off back to Twitter kike a based king

>>56400681
>the more fees they get, the more dilution will happen
That makes no sense.

>>56400681
>the more fees they get, the more dilution will happen
Chainlink dilution is currently 14% annually. More specifically 7% of total supply annually. It's literally capped at that.
That's absolute peanuts compared to how much inflation Bitcoin, Solana, XRP, ... had in their glory years.
Bitcoin inflated over 60% annually during the early years when it pumped multiples of x1000.

You’re so hilariously wrong about everything on multiple levels. Pretty amazing.

>>56400900
Chainlink does NOT have monster cock miners dumping like those chad coins you mentioned only pencil thin azn cock nodes dumping pathetic amounts truly the level of disinformation is outstanding well done

>>56400927
>Chainlink does NOT have monster cock miners dumping
Thank god lol

>>56400937
Chainlink has a centralized entity dumping and in control of 40% of the supply. That’s even worse than miners.

>>56400944
How is 14% inflation worse than 60+%?

>>56400947
He's a nigger who thinks 1lb of feathers is lighter than 1lb of lead.

>>56400927
And that's a good thing.
Bitcoin miners have absolutely massive overheads (hardware, power, ...) so they have a huge incentive to dump their inflationary rewards.
Link nodes comparatively have tiny overheads.

>>56400947
It is when coming from a centralized company that’s supposed to be working on a self sustaining network.

>>56400958
>>56400963
Shut it dumb advocate.

>Link nodes comparatively have tiny overheads.

Tiny overhead = tiny fees for stakers. Do these tiny fees justify dumping 700k link every other week retard?

>>56401086
>when coming from a centralized company that’s supposed to be working on a self sustaining network
Chainlink Labs isn’t supposed to be self-sustaining you literal retard.

>>56401096
How is a company not supposed to be self sustaining you absolute massive drooling down syndromes south african nigger?

Oh I guess it makes sense, seeing how they need to dump a million link every week just to get by.

>>56401126
How would Chainlink make itself self-sustaining?

>>56401133
By opening the network and allowing true decentralization to take place. They won’t do it though, they can’t even provide a timeline as for when this will be happening, which is why I mentioned that dumping millions of link to subsidize the network and themselves as a company is scammy at best.

>>56401143
>opening the network and allowing true decentralization to take place
How would that make Chainlink self-sustaining?

>>56401126
>seeing how they need to dump a million link every week just to get by
Sergey said he would dump tokens to fund the company back in 2017, before the ICO.
If you're still upset about that TODAY, then you really need to find a quiet corner somewhere and just end it all.

>>56401086
>Tiny overhead = tiny fees for stakers
That makes negative sense

>>56401148
By allowing clients to request data and node operators to work on said requests without having to go through the chainlink company as a middlemen. This would force data requesters to buy link in the open market thus making the price find its true equilibrium. Compared to right now, chainlink receives fees from clients in whatever token they want to accept (see: Build projecs) and then dump link from their reserve on the open market, basically increasing the sell pressure.

>>56401149
Hey man that’s cool. If Sergey can tell us that he’ll be dumping millions of link every week why can’t he tell us when he’ll be releasing v2.0, or at the very least v1.0? No? Super secret info no one can know?

Hmm… got it. So I guess we have to trust Sergey. Kinda goes against the whole truth vs trust thing he preaches but whatever right?

Oh we’re not allowed to know what he’s using the money from the dumps on either? Ah got it, makes sense!

>>56401187
> This would force data requesters to buy link in the open market thus making the price find its true equilibrium.
That has literally nothing to do with Chainlink the company becoming self sustaining.

>>56401195
Where are they getting the money from 500+ employees, smartcon, trips, etc.?

Life pro tip: from the dumps

>>56401215
*getting the money FOR 500+ employees

Autocorrect baka

>>56401215
The question is how does Chainlink become self-sustaining.
Not how do we stop the dumps.

>>56401187
Sergey said he would dump tokens to fund the company over six years ago. And you're still crying about it.
You're in a car slowly approaching a tree that's miles away, and six years later you still hit that tree.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>56401225
Answered here >>56401187

>>56401232
Yet you don’t even know if he's been dumping the node operator allocation or the company allocation. Very trustless.

>>56401232
This is pathetic dump numbers from pathetic pencil dick azn miners.

Chad Bitcoin miners dump 1000% times the amount of this daily lmao lil linkie is so pathetic with his tiny token dumps HAHAHAHHA

>>56401240
>Answered here >>56401187
No it isn’t.
Tell us where Chainlink the protocol development company would get money from if not from selling its tokens.

>>56401225
Btw, if you were asking how chainlink as a company becomes self sustaining. That’s a great question. How does a company that currently has to dump tokens to stay afloat become self sustaining after having dumped their whole token supply.

Is it even necessary to become self sustaining when you have enough money in your treasury from dumps to pay salaries and pay for infrastructure for decades?

>>56401258
>How does a company that currently has to dump tokens to stay afloat become self sustaining after having dumped their whole token supply
That’s a great question for September 2017

>>56401240
>Yet you don’t even know if he's been dumping the node operator allocation or the company allocation.
You can answer that yourself; have they been developing or have they been paying nodes?

>>56401251
Ah gotcha, you’re asking about the company. See >>56401258

I have no idea how a company that depends on dumps would become self sustaining, if not by using money stored on its reserves.

Let’s say chainlink dumps 65% of their tokens at an average price of $7. That’s 650 million link @ $7 = $ 4.55 billions.

Let’s assume 500 employees from 2017 to 2023 (extreme exaggeration), paid a salary of $130k per year. That’s 65 millions per year. Let’s say infrastructure costs the same (65 million). That’s 130 million a year in total.

130 million a year times 7 years is 910 millions.

That’d mean chainlink the company still has 3.64 billions, enough to keep the show running for 28 years without lifting a single finger.

Pay yourself a million or two a year and it’d make no difference to the treasury.

Now, Sergey doesnt have to provide financial reports and as advocates have confirmed multiple times, they don’t owe linkers anything.

See why the situation is worrisome?

>>56401262
Paying for 2 employees, both of which are founders and probably work for next to nothing isn’t too difficult.

>>56401286
>I have no idea how a company that depends on dumps would become self sustaining
Clearly

Here’s the answer: it can’t, unless they start skimming a percentage off all transactions like the MEV maffia.

>>56401282
That’s a good questions, chainlink doesn’t provide any data about clients’ payments so we cannot know. Very trustless right?

>>56401298
There was an old video where Sergey said chainlink labs would take a percentage of every transaction made on the network. I think it was on Thomas Hodges’ youtube channel, which was deleted once he became an employee.

>>56401286
>See why the situation is worrisome?
The situation has been exactly the same since 2017, before the ICO.

If that's worrisome, then why the fuck are you still here after all these years?

>>56401307
>If that's worrisome, then why the fuck are you still here after all these years?

I get paid to fud. Next question.

>>56401315
Lmao

>>56401315
kek fair play, faggot

>>56399842
Kek -perfect summary lolol

>>56401332
No but for real nigger, there’s a 50/50 chance of Sergey being bad at running a business and the network not taking off until 2030.

I mention the being bad at running a business because of all the shitty hires he’s made in the marketing dept as well as the inability to provide timelines for a finished product. You don’t need to rush it, but you do need to provide approximate dates for your product release unless you want to be seen as a scam, which circles back to hiring shitty marketing and pr people.

Basically I think Sergey is surrounding himself with incompetent roasties and scammers like FTX, Celsius, Nexo, linkpool, etc.

There’s a significant chance of the project failing if Sergey doesn’t stop being a faggot.

Marketing is bad though, so I don’t expect a pump this next run, so unless they can start running a legit business it’s game over.

>>56401346
>Sergey being bad at running a business

>>56401351
DTCC and Swift have never confirmed they’ll be using link for tokenization. Sergey has successfully ran POCs for them, but does he have the pull and chutzpah to make it happen and incorporate chainlink in the production workflow of said companies?

I don’t think so dude. Even the swift guy Jonathan Ehrenfeld said he had no pull.

https://youtu.be/Onp-E90dq8c?si=NR31vqdUVApvfD0q

Min 2:38

>Back in Toronto last time we had sibos I was here and I saw Sergey walking alone in those corridors looking for banks to understand what he was trying to make for the financial industry

He’s the underdog. While people like bankman fried get to implement their scams on millions of people at the highest echelons of financial institutions due to his contacts, Sergey has to fight for scraps to implement a measly POC.

Link is a longshot. Their best bet would be to just get better at marketing and do an exit as this is crypto and it’d be the easy way out but I highly doubt he’ll do that.

>>56401390
>I saw Sergey walking alone in those corridors

And for whatever lazy faggot doesn’t want want to watch the vid, yes, he really said that

>>56401295
>we're raising $30m ICO funds to pay for 2 employees who will probably work for next to nothing
Lmao.

>>56401390
>>56401399
I hope for the sake of your mental health that gookmoot shuts this place down soon.

>>56401458
Everything said was true

>>56401530
It is. And LINK has always been a longshot, for me at least. But that anon was right that this place is bad for your mental health. It's bad for everyone's mental health.

>>56401596
>But that anon was right that this place is bad for your mental health. It's bad for everyone's mental health.
major cope

everyone ITT holds LINK

lmao at the brownoid porn addict seethe

>>56401596
>this place is bad for your mental health
myabe if ur gay

>>56401709
bitch I ain’t reading all that. Summarize, is that even related to chainlink?

>>56401725
>7 hours and 22 posts of fudcuck manifestos, not even considering the other 6 threads he's probably in - all to complain about an allegedly useless token on a dead business and finance board
nothing weird about that at all! i bet the "everyone else is a paid poster" thing totally isnt projection either lmao

>>56401860
Not reading desu but I’m glad you agree with my point of view

>>56401709

>>56401860
You sound like a massive virgin faggot though

>>56401390
All of this is correct. Posts like these destroy the cult. Most of them are too far gone to digest any of this, but maybe a few will wake up and understand how horrendously misled they were. Chainlink is purely a grift

>THE Cuckolds of crypto

Make sure to get your donations in by year end

Lmao at the fucking fudders

YO FELLOW SHAREHOLDERS AMAZON CREATING AWS WILL TANK THE COMPANY YOU BETTER SELL

6 years of fud im here daily laughing and. Multiple wallets staked. Never fucking selling lmao oh my Gooodsssdd it feels good hahaha hahaha

Test

>>56401390
>but does he have the pull and chutzpah to make it happen and incorporate chainlink in the production workflow of said companies?
Classic pilpul.
Nobody in all of crypto is anywhere near this close to wide-scale institutional adoption.
Whatever uncertainties exist for Chainlink in this regard are 100x more uncertain for all other cryptos.

>>56401960
>whataboutism
Not falling for it my colored friend

>>56401984
The very nature of speculation is based on of future adoption increase.
Very few assets (crypto or otherwise) are THIS close to a massive adoption increase.

>>56400958
That is the most retarded thing I have read in a while.
1lb is 1lb, it's weight, it's not mass or volume

>>56402002
Alright, I’ll bite.

1) crypto tokens’ prices are not even strongly correlated with adoption. They correlate to strong marketing, which is something the chainlink team is supremely shit at
2) How do you know chainlink is “THIS” close to adoption? True staking is not even out yet, you don’t even have a timeline for this happening, next update will probably be about staking v0.02000000000000001. Sergey won’t give hard deadlines for a decentralized version of CCIP. It might come out in 10 years for all Sergey cares, he locked up that fiat really good from continuously dumping link.

>>56402034
>crypto tokens’ prices are not even strongly correlated with adoption
The prices of all assets are strongly correlated with future increases in adoption.
Just a few days ago Bitcoin pumped 10% in minutes on institutional adoption news (Blackrock ETF)

>How do you know chainlink is “THIS” close to adoption?
see >>56401351

>>56402049
>Just a few days ago Bitcoin pumped 10% in minutes on institutional adoption news (Blackrock ETF)
It pumped on news. You probably don’t know, but the ETF was fake news (for now).

>How do you know chainlink is “THIS” close to adoption?
see >>56401351 #

As I mentioned, show me a single instance where swift or dtcc have confirmed using chainlink in their main products’ infrastructure. You can’t because it’s never happened. Swift basically runs a charity event for startups like chainlink every year, most of these startups never succeed not end up working with swift.

>>56398439
>fudders are blocking the path to the fourth industrial resolution

>>56402078
>It pumped on news
Yes, the prospect of imminent adoption.
It did not pump because people bought that ETF, it pumped because buyers believed people would soon be buying the ETF.

>show me a single instance where swift or dtcc have confirmed using chainlink in their main products’ infrastructure
That's not what "close to adoption" means, you kike.

>>56400900
>Chainlink dilution is currently 14% annually. More specifically 7% of total supply annually. It's literally capped at that.
this keeps getting brought up like its an legit point but its not. Holders want a reason to hold the token, thats to make money. Chainlink refuses to bring value back to the token. In fact the do everything in their power to suck value, with 14% inflation and token sales while turning a profit

>>56402094
>it pumped because buyers believed
Yeh, marketing poomps shit

>That's not what "close to adoption" means, you kike.
You have nothing. No confirmation of CCIP going live, no deadlines, nothing at all. Show me a single instance of Sergey saying swift or dtcc are going to be using chainlink, you can’t.

>>56401149
>Sergey said he would dump tokens to fund the company back in 2017, before the ICO.
sergey also never said anything about two white papers and diffrent versions of staking

>>56402107
>Holders want a reason to hold the token, thats to make money

WTF! You said the quiet part out loud! Jannies, ban him!

It’s illegal to say that man, chainlink is meant to make a better sociaty, not make its holders rich. Truth machine and all. Crops.

>>56402114
>marketing
That wasn't marketing, it was a (fake) announcement by crypto media.

>You have nothing. No confirmation of CCIP going live, no deadlines, nothing at all. Show me a single instance of Sergey saying swift or dtcc are going to be using chainlink, you can’t.
You're doing it again.

>>56402129
>It’s illegal to say that man
oh i know any i bring it up to the three retards on twitter(null packets, fishfaggot, and CLG) they act like holding the token for monetary gain is a bad thing. This narrative about inflation not being a thing came from that fish midwit.

>>56402156
They get paid by the chainlink team to keep the narrative under control, makes sense when you take that into consideration.

>>56402134
They’re not using chainlink

>>56402156
Link holders are so cucked they arent even allowed to admit they want to make money. Wait for it, wait for it…

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

>>56402107
>Holders want a reason to hold the token, thats to make money.

No. The team doesn't owe you anything. Also somehow please buy my token. This is your mind on Chainlink advocacy

>>56402178
>They’re not using chainlink
You trully cannot grasp the difference between "is adopted" and "is close to adoption", can you Jamal?

>>56401888
you did read it because you're desperate for any kind of interaction on here kek
>>56401902
>is obviously very angry on behalf of porn / drug addicts on twitter, so he's simping hard
awww sorry lil guy i didnt realize you looked up to porn and drug addicted full time fuddies! you gonna write your own lil fuddie manifestos one day?

>>56402211
>No. The team doesn't owe you anything.
this is another thing. The only reason chainlink is even rememberd after 2017 is og holders memeing about it 24/7 in the early years. It made such an impact Chainlink labs was begging the "community" to bring back the meme magik, all while not giving anything in return.
Chris i know you're reading these threads what i just outlined is one way to bring back community sentiment. Start returning value to OG token holders

>>56398439
>>56398479
>>56399091
>>56399698
>>56399818
>>56401902
>>56401915
>twitter screenshot thread
the only reasonable response to this is calling OP a fag, but ideally - finding OP's home address

>>56402230
No. We will keep all the fees and curb any adoption with more dilution. Thanks for your donation though

>>56402213
>You trully cannot grasp the difference between "is adopted" and "is close to adoption", can you Jamal?

Yeah, they’re not using chainlink. As in, they’re not using chainlink now, nor in the future.

What does even “close to adoption” mean you buffoon? You don’t even know when CCIP is going live because Sergey cannot provide a timeline, how the fuck could you possibly know if adoption is close or not kek

>>56402244
>more dilution
Dilution is fixed at 7% of total supply.
Checked btw

>>56402263
>What does even “close to adoption” mean
lol

>>56400795
It's the same street for sure.
No wonder this dumb cunt is so scared and the rest of his discord fag friends get upset on here. He'd give them up right after he gives up his keys.

>>56402271
>Dilution is fixed at 7% of total supply.

Nice. Where's the smart contract? Truth>trust

>>56402273
Hey advoshit, unlike twitter you can’t control the narrative here. Suck my cheesy balls nigger.

>>56402286
You can follow on chain.

>>56402292
So there's no guarantee? Just trust?

>>56402289
>m-muh narrative
Yeah you sound like a projecting paid faggot with how you talk
How tight is Bram's pussy? Should I ask?

>>56398439
I have a theory about fudders.
I think that they bought in at the ICO and started swinging their stacks for shitcoins until they had nothing left and are now perpetually seething at the people who held and still have something to look forward to.

The only pleasure they can take is from the possibility they can potentially convince someone else to be as fucking stupid as they were.

>>56402231
>someone p p puhhhhhhhleaaaaaaaze do my bidding for me

Cupcake soft

>>56402302
These are largely ad-hoc expenses, anon.

>>56402303
>Yeah you sound like a projecting paid faggot
I project my turd on top of your head advocate

>>56402303
Imagine defending a multi billion dollar company against its loyal holders lol, what a life that of an advocate.

>>56402336
So should I ask Bram how tight her pussy is?
What do you think I should send Edem? Does he know you're a suicidal porn addict?

>>56402359
this strategy isn't working. He still posts daily on twitter, completely wrecking you emotionally (in addition to the financial wreckage from being in a cult L M A O).

When your low T oozes through the keyboard, it just doesn't hit like you thought it would, sorry man

>>56402371
He seems to be pretty upset about it so I'd say it definitely is having an impact, but thanks for trying on his behalf you braindead druggie lmaooo.
I mean it will get much worse - outside of family and friends getting involved, I wonder how NL immigration would feel about his work with a busted scam company (Success Factory) as a "crypto investor" when said scam company ran a dagcoin ponzi and was busted for it. Not to mention with his nationality and profile - possible HAMAS supporter as well? Maybe an anonymous tip is in order? Idk it would be a funny prank.

>>56398439
If this faggot CLG says its all negative only because of price well the fix the fucking price.

No one would talk about $BNB if it had done a - 90% in the last 30 years. Instead everyone is happy with it as it made a x20.
If Ethereum would still be crabbing at $10 no one would give a shit about it. But it sits at $1600. And even if $10 would be up 30x from ethereum's ICO, still no one would give a fuck about it.

People care if price goes up. Price goes down, community goes down. This stubborn donkey needs to face reality.

>>56402442
>No one would talk about $BNB if it had done a - 90% in the last 3 years.
fixed*

>>56402442
>Price goes down, community goes down
This doesn't apply to Chainlink. The community was down even after two years of Link outperforming the entire market.

>>56402350
>what a life that of an advocate
You're implying they get paid to do it, sounds like it's just a job

>>56402178
>They get paid by the chainlink team to keep the narrative under control
Anon don't understand this at all.
I was a community manager for a crypto project in 2018-2019 and the sole reason we were paid was to produce shill content, white knight for the team and deflect criticism/take the hits from the bagholders.

CLG and all the other fags are PAID to argue with you and suck all the negativity. His entire role is to be harassed so Sergey and all the other team members can go worry free about their day.

>>56402273
kek maybe i'll ring some doorbells next time I'm in the neighbourhood