/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56358328
OIL? OIL.

can not, will not be denied 150 a barrel.

i got greedy and didn't sell
it's so fucking over

It's almost as if the whole world is preparing to go to war. What are the best plays for such a scenario?

>OIL princesses celebrating
Back to 80 with ye

wish me luck anons.

Most rigged market of all time

>>56358328
laughing at glowie edition hahahahahahha

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>56358350
Looks like it wants $90 first

>>56358349
Physical uranium. It's about to be in very short supply.

hey you stupid baggie faggot, ONE person getting stabbed in france isn't a "terrorist attack" you dumb paranoid schizo nigger

>>56358346
Oof

Gayed market

>VIX

news dropped??

I’m rich

why is the VIX up 6 million percent today?

>>56358356
i posted the wrong image ;_;

i bought a massive crude long position and a short S&P future position

>>56358346
you should keep it bro you never know when it will go back up! JK sell that shit, next time sell it after less of a loss lol

>>56358346
These are long positions, right?

>>56358371
Headline algos really, really don't like phrases like "ground invasion imminent" or "gold up 3%"

is that a joyously screaming baby?

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>>56358349
Stocks, especially small caps, tend to do fine during wars.

>>56358383
Thanks. Any specific names?

Buy Chad ticker UVIX for extreme doom investing.
Wild ride

>>56358362
Why? Why not just buy crude? And by physical you mean U.UN?

>>56358387
>>56358383

Be aware that up means after its fallen drastically. Picrel

>>56358371
Selling tech and buying energy

Where buy u235 bullion

>>56358395
I'm making a joke about nukes flying. Uranium (like U.UN) would probably get a generic inflationary bid though.

>>56358365
>>56358375
>>56358378
it's even worse than you think
this was wednesday

>>56358408
idk why you made this a meme... but im not mad, confused or angry. Im ok with it- and thats fine.

>>56358408
Do NOT make this post on the day of jihad.

>>56358413
I have a clear 20% to 15% cut off rate (depending on the risk of the position)

I would rec you get one too before gambling

>>56358401
>post crash rally
ominous

>>56358413
Maybe I'm old, but I generally secure the bag at 15%.

>>56358393
Wow that's a leveraged ETF at ATH.

>>56358413
Fuck man. I was up nearly 20% on MARA a few days ago. Plummeted down to 6% before I pulled the plug.

>>56358401
>Buy in 1936
>Get drafted

>>56358383
Small caps in a high rate environment... there is a bloody good reason why they have underperformed like crazy these over the last two years.
Just buy the magnificent seven, throw in some Lockheed and General Dynamics, some gold, and you are all set

TLT bros this volatility spike seems ominous

>>56358457
>Just buy the magnificent seven
those are all coming down though. But good to see bullish sentiment still. Good for me I mean

RTX is a piece of shit

>>56358387
No, but I read that the defense and (sometimes) energy industries do well on average.

>>56358349
Gold and energy, and sin stocks like "defense"

>>56358482
Kool KTOS klan keeps winning.

>>56358482
thank you.
whenever you fucking retards don't like my investments this makes my confidence in it much bigger and I don't worry so much

it's a pretty tedious crab but we're actually making higher lows in the 1-minute chart for nasdaq
i get the feeling we'll get a power hour recovery, probably won't close green but maybe it will get up somewhere around 367

>>56358534
That's a man

>>56358534
kek the hand rubbing got me

>>56358537

>>56358535
>h-higher lows in the 1 minute chart, that's uhh bu-bullish right b-bros?
it's over... major lower highs and lower lows in the 1y chart.

>>56358528
RTX is actual shit though. I used to work there.

>>56358563
welp nevermind it gigadumped as soon as it touched the 200 EMA

>>56358528
Shut it nigger I'm trying to make money not own the chuds epic style on 4chan

>great companies that produce great products like instapot go out of business
>shit companies that make shit products like intel continue to cling to life

>>56358576
and now it's back up lmao

>>56358584
>>56358576
just let it ebb and flow, the trend is set. Sitting tight on my shorts.

>>56358579
Intel makes great WiFi and Ethernet cards and the best enterprise CPUs. What are you talking about?

>>56358571
priced in

>>56358597
>Intel
>best enterprise CPUs

>>56358590
based
the hunter needs to know the boar better than the boar knows itself
to heem the mumu you must be in the mumu's shoes, understand his thought process, what makes him tick, and sometimes become the mumu itself - only then will you be able to master the art of the short

>>56358579
there's still time to invest in SharkNinja ($SN)

>>56358607
Other than IBM's which are not worth the premium who does better?

>>56358598
I don't think you've priced in the wave of retiring boomers selling company stock. There's a huge employment wall they're about to run headfirst into. Did you watch GE a few years back?

>>56358609
hmm... wise words. I'll ponder on them and take them to heart, master.

>>56358616
tsmc

Has anyone ever taken a stock tip from someone here and had it work out successfully?

>>56358644
They don't make enterprise CPUs except maybe for AMD.

>>56358645
2020-2021 bullrun was epic.

>>56358619
Boomers are actually the laziest generation ever. The only one thinking boomers can't be replaced is boomers (narcissistic thinking).
And the "boomers are selling and this totally matters" narrative is just your opinion man

>US must prepare for possible simultaneous wars with Russia and China by expanding its conventional forces, strengthening alliances and enhancing its nuclear weapons modernization program, a congressionally appointed bipartisan panel said on Thursday - Reuters

Holy fucking shit, how do I profit off of WW3?

Wild how well S&P is performing despite the fact that the Middle East is about to be vaporized. Making gains on my crude futures to offset my SPY PUT losses.

Imagine not making the most obvious trade of your life today. SVIX is truth. SVIX is life

What are some /biz/ video games?

Shorted amd meta and tesla yesterday with a x10 leverage.

i was so wound up with 0DTE options i didn't look at oil stocks at all. DVN is totally a buy here

>>56358645
I shilled TOU at like $60 when an anon asked to be spoonfed a trade and he replied that it looks great. Dunno if he took that advice and bought, but had he done so he'd be up pretty decisively and also well positioned to benefit from oil and natty moves to the upside

>oil goes up 5.6%
>oil stocks go up 2-3%
>oil goes down 3%
>oil stocks go down 3%

market faker faking the market to the max pain level lmao

>>56358668
Long oil
Long gold
Long "defense" equities

>>56358645
I went short on FRCB but I sold it way too early considering how low it went

>>56358328
I'm so fucking tired of seeing OIL ops. One day all you "oil Barron's" will suffer and I will laugh

>>56358428

>>56358694
Agreed. OIL fags belong in /pmg/ it's called "black gold" for a reason

I have a $250K FV position on crude futures, and a 50K position on S&P futures.

I also have a 8K PUT position on SPY. Should I close the SPY puts before the weekend? I'm worried about time decay making them worthless, it's a Oct 20 expiration.

If you're wondering why I'm doing this, I think Hezbollah will get involved once IDF fully commits to Gaza invasion, and an OPEC blockade of some sort (or at least threats of it) will follow.

>>56358674
Recettear: An Item Shop's Tale.
Capitalism, ho!

also fuck that little cunt, you know the one

>>56358663
Well, ok then.

I cannot believe how much sentiment has changed in the last few years. Somehow we have normalized that stocks, bonds and real commodities are more volatile than the current shitcoins. Oil is dumping and pumping about 5% in both directions within a single week. Yields are making 3% moves within a single day. And some people think all this is how healthy markets are supposed to behave. This is a fucking clown market for a clown world.

>>56358370
kick ass, BLESSED.
You would'a been a little richer and a *lot* cooler if you had FCG though.

>>56358716
>Oct 20
sell I say. Too short term and too much volatility and uncertainty. Much safer to ride oil

>>56358674
ESO on the console has been fun. Its a surprisingly good mmo, especially for console. Aside from that not much really. Been playing guitar/keyboard more than goymes.

someone here must have that biz meme about Sam Bankjew-Fried where it talks about him being the same Jew that killed Jesus

>>56358716
thats a pretty large bet. what % of your port are you risking for this?

>>56358727
I suspect the US government can’t manipulate gold the same way as oil, because oil gets delivered. But they can pump and dump it to create volatility. That would make the cost of holding long oil contracts higher.

>>56358413
If it's screenshot worthy, it's sell worthy. A tale as old as time

The nyse cannot contain itself. We're bout to take the first step towards new ATH. The bidenomics will not be held back.

POWER HALF HOUR

>>56358716
I would close any option position that has had a good run and is getting close to expiration. You never know what jewish games the market marker is trying to play next week.

>>56358727
Bro we been in clown world for like 5 years

INTERST IS UP
AND THE STOOKS MARKET'S DOWN
UR A GAY FAG
IF YOU LIVE IN TOWN

just bought oil because i'm tired of you retards spamming it. it will go down for certain now.

>>56358727
>Somehow we have normalized that stocks, bonds and real commodities are more volatile than the current shitcoins.
That's because cryptos were just one of the insanities of the ZIRP era, and with a higher cost of credit being the new normal scams and tulips are finally beginning to be treated as such. Volume disappearing from that fakeass market is proof enough that it's dead in the water.

As for the volatility, I have said before that everybody should brace themselves for heretofore unseen volatility. It's going to be an insane decade ahead of us, with lots of repressed realities finally dawning on humanity. Enjoy the ride, and remember the realities of price and value.

>>56358740
Oil & S&P positions combined (excluding puts) is like 175% of my cash value

my stocks just keep dumping
and i wish i were dead
so i prob'ly won't be
posting in the next thread

>>56358716
I'd hold the SPY puts. I expect NQ to shave about a thousand points from yesterday's high within the next ten trading days. SPY should see 426-427 before expiration.

*splashes water on face*

>>56358806
I enjoy making money, so I decided to go long oil
Mumus' tears are honey; their losses make their blood boil

>>56358645
Oh yeah, tons.

>>56358674
Starsector, Rimworld, Dwarf Fortress, Xcom UFO defense, CIV 4, Battlefield Vietnam (original), Battlefield 3 Beta, Simcity 4 deluxe, Slay the Spire, CSGO, All of the Pathfinder games... and many more

>>56358819
That brown girl is a QT, wonder if she's blown Powell

Buddy.. look at crude oil
Inflation is fucked
We, are fucked

"Now now, mommy is going to cut rates soon, just hold on a little while longer. Ok dear"

>>56358534
based jewess

>>56358797
God speed anon I hope you make it, you got balls ill give you that.

double bottom at 429.9x cumming

>>56358675
based boomer
im holding a 10x leverage position over-weekend myself too on some glorified gem company, fucking piece of shit stock is cyclical and has risen 120% this year in a recession, bullshit rigged market

>>56358849
Allah is on my side

>>56358789
And it did thanks fucker for ruining the party

>>56358875
??? it keeps rising

>>56358677
what stock do i buy to get a gf that looks like this

>>56358846
ima be honest, I thought we'd be nuking by now, given we're going into a weekend and Israel's going for a ground invasion with clear tension building up from surrounding arab nations and terrorist groups

>>56358789
we're going to war
oil will be fine

>>56358899
look at NVDA, the best broad market sentiment indicator. the market is imploding.

>>56358899
>nuking
I mean the market, poor choice of words

>>56358899
How have you not learned that nothing ever happens? Ignore mainstream news headlines and focus on what the FED is signalling and you'll actually start to make some money.

>>56358899
does anyone even care about that?
I mean, we all know whos going to win, right?

Is KO going out of business?

>>56358933
Who wins doesn't matter. What happens to the price of oil makes all the difference

>bye

>>56358847
Sorry, there's only one (Krug)man for the job.

Happy 1 year anniversary of the bull market!

israel is turning gaza in to a parking lot. gookfu's mom is getting better, so it looks like we might not have to go to korea. and i've got a pile of spy puts to sit on till monday. Life is Good.

>>56358952

>>56358959
I took some QQQ puts myself. Great minds think alike

Get out my way SVIX king coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foEDIiSNbAY

Bought puts on META before close. YOLO

A round of applause for the mumus, what tenacity. Unfortunately, it's time to pray for a W at 360.

>>56358690
I took a tip on BURU a while back but unfortunately it's still falling. Signs look positive though.

MCFNF is about to moon. Six months of shilling this stock and soon I will be vindicated.

>>56359000
that's the one exploration play in the Alps right? Probably will go up along with the rest of the sector but that said there's little reason to take risks with explorers when quality and already producing marginal E&Ps that are essentially just glorified call options are selling for peanuts. Desu.

Uhh... ding ding ding?
How did you do today, anons?

Looking forward to Regional Bank reporting next week.

>>56359000
I wouldn't be so sure. There's that one shill that's been spamming ASMB for over a year now and it just keeps tanking endlessly.

>>56359024
no, the one exploring the largest natgas reserves in Austria and Germany after they lifted the ban on natgas and oil drilling after the nordstream 2 bombing. production is supposed to begin this month.

computers.

>no ding ding ding poster
Grim

>>56359035
>no,
>is the one I was referring to
anyway good luck mate, rising tide lifts all boats

>>56359045
indeed

>>56359029
+1057 EUR
the 2x leveraged short S&P / short DAX ETFs finally doing something

>>56359000
CHECKED trips of WESLEY CLARK SCAM.
If it was worth more than a trickle of runny shit down a fat nigger's leg then insiders who know the "players" would already have bought enough for it to be more than a penny stock on the Canadian scam index.

Great looks like I’m going to break out in shingles again

>>56359029
+7%
One of the best days this year so far.

>>56359086
that's what can happen if you leverage yourself so much with options

>>56359078
why would they? the big fish will just buy it up when it's profitable.

NRGD is double bottoming for the next leg uoh.

>>56359086
But why.

>>56359029
>ding ding
+0.4% which is pretty good all things considered.

>>56359095
>why would they
Exactly. Anyone who actually knows any of those jews knows better than to buy the shit.

>>56359029
>-0.34%
Mostly giving up a lot of gains. Nothing tripped sell or buy alarms.

>>56359093
>>56359105
It’s fomo. I waited for the Michigan inflation report, saw a double top on spy, hesitated to buy $13 puts that would become $80. When the puts were $15, I hesitated again and they became $100 each. Finally saw weakness after it gapped up and decided to finally buy puts like a COMPLETE FUCKINF RETARD WHEN SPY HAS DONE THIS EXACT SAME MOVE OF HITTING A BOTTOM AND STAYING ABOVE IT UNTIL CLOSE. EVERY TIME

Oil brothers what the fuck happed up 5%?

>>56359141
muslims are using their only leverage to show how upset they are with US and Israels treatment of their muslim brothers in palestine.

most bears are gay
fact

Look at after hours
That was definitely the bottom

>>56359141
Conoco chart looks bullish af

>>56359029
-1.23%

This market is so fucking unreal. Citi beats earnings while being down 50% from the 2021 high it goes up 2% premarket reaches 3% up during market hours and closes in the red? What the fuck??? Also how is the dollar stronger but gold is 3% up on the day? What the fuck is going on? It's a joke at this point...

PFE

>>56359029
-0.41%

>>56359029
I gained like $6, despite holding PYPL

Imagine what the markets will look like on monday, after the seemingly unavoidable middle-east bloodbath over the weekend.

Can someone give me a QRD on PHIO? Support, resistance, prediction, etc.

Today I did my second ever day trade.
At open I bought 100x sqqq and 200x soxs.
I was happy with my quick gains, and I sold around 1pm to lock them in. 3.5%.
Overall, I'm pretty happy with the outcome. Testing the waters. Need to look into PDT status, I'm interested in doing these a bit more often

>>56359141
Up 6% actually

>>56359209
B-but it's a safe haven divvy yield stock!

>>56359231
It's a biotech with a $3m market cap. That's your QRD.

>>56359141

Dammit, my lottery scratch off investments crabbed again...
>spent $20 two weeks ago
>won $20
>used winnings to buy $20 more tickets today
>won $20 again

>>56359289
Fake news by a literal Jew (see his bio) grifter

>>56359289
Is this confirmed? Big if true.

>>56359300
Based

>>56359250
Congrats anon, and also on having the discipline to stop while you were ahead. I did a similar thing with soxs and and locked in some gains this morning. Then I thought, the market would do one of its retarded pumps at the end on bad news and rolled into soxl....that was a big fucking mistake. Moral of the story is to quit when you're ahead.

>>56359206
proof that it's just a kike casino designed to separate the goyum from their money

>>56359307
No anon, I'm unemployed now. I need that $200k jackpot to survive
(I spent the original $20 before getting laid off)

>>56359289
LETS FUCKING GO

>>56359306
Nope, its fake. Arabfag on /pol listened to the video and said he just cried about the fate of Palestinians but issued no threats.
Also LNG shipments can never supply the world. Only pipelines can transfer the needed quantities.

I went all in at close. What am I in for?

>>56359289
I've been told that's a mistransliteration and that they're just condemning israel's behavior.
I'd hope people on 4chan (better yet /biz/) of all places would be skeptical of things they see in images.

>>56359329
pain and misery

>>56359206
>closes in the red?
Really? Fuck I sold my puts right after earnings.
It sounds like they revised their estimates just recently though so they didn't really beat them.

>>56359289
This has been proven to be fake news

>>56359315
Kek the perfect example...>>56359355

i dont like drive anywhere so how will the antisemites cutting off oil affect me? as long as i got my tiktok and chipotle im gucci

>>56359372
Your Chipotle ingredients have to be trucked from Mexico or Guatemala or whatever the fuck.

Bitcoin reverse rugging. Cutting off all those wallets in Gaza really was bullish after all.

>>56359372
Lol literally all of those things contain petroleum products and require energy from oil.
Pretty much everything you touch or see does unless you're Amish.

>>56359029
/cashgang/ for the moment so nothing. I agreed to work early shift this morning. 7:30 start on a solid three hours sleep because I can't just change my sleep schedule for one weird day. I am home now and am going to take a four hour nap.

>>56359206
Theres way more than the most popular correlations dollar goes up does not mean gold has to go down. There are other factors at play.

>The VIX is at 20.57, up 23% today.
>The SPX is down less than 1%.

is this bullish or bearish?

WE GOT TOO COCKY TTOO CHADS

>>56359372
>oil goes up
>energy bills rise for everybody
>transportation fees rise for all goods
>businesses start making more losses
>this includes farmers
>also if natgas went up to keep up with oil prices going up you'll have a double whammo as ammonia, a common fertilizer, is made with natgas as feedstock
>food prices rise due to increased input, energy and transport costs
>most other core goods also go up due to businesses offloading the costs to their customers
>all your expenditures rise and your stocks go down due to reduced earnings
Beautiful, isn't it?

>>56359398
Gigabullish. Just imagine what happens when all those hedges roll off.

Cei Penny stock did 30% today. Anyone know anything technical not p&d related?

>>56359366
>>56359355

same as when the jobs report gets quietly edited 2 mos later to 1/3rd of the numbers sent to the media originally

>>56358674
I only play chess. No it does not help with stock trading. Hikaru Nakamura, the guy in the right of the photo and current #3 ranked chess player in the world, also enjoys trading stocks poorly.

>>56359379
like what do you mean i mean they can bring it on trains and then the delivery vans are electric these days

>>56359424
Trains run on diesel computer.

>>56359372
I bought $10k in PBR shares so I'm covered for my own oil needs. I'm not sure why anyone panics over oil price spikes when you can just buy oil companies cheaply and receive dividends to cover your own needs.

>>56359402
>oil goes up

YET GASOLINE RBOB AND DIESEL WENT DOWN IT'S TIME TO BE SMARTER BOBO

$150/barrel

>>56359402
One of the main things that brought CPI down in August was utility gas. This all might happen faster than people think.

>>56359453
In the short term when oil goes up radically refiners tend to avoid buying crude, true. But that will lead to reduced gasoline and diesel supply. So sustained high oil prices eventually work their way into refined product prices.

>>56358891
starbucks

What's crazy on the oil chart is that sustained dip starting in 2014. It's only recently recovered. Oil has been like 100 a barrel several times up to twenty years ago. Accounting for inflation I could see it being much higher easily. Tempted to get into it.

>>56359428
Trains do run on diesel computer but they're stupid efficient at tonnage moved per gallon used. They mog 18-wheelers and their co2 and emissions output is well below the threshold for giving a shit about in terms of global warming, the shipping industry refusing to do anything about their emissions and burning the nastiest shit on the planet for a profit is responsible for a third of all emissions and industry as a whole is responsible for three-fourths.

whenever anyone says computer I think of this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_YfjMZ6n8Bk&pp=ygUNaGVscCBjb21wdXRlcg%3D%3D

Wtf
This is the monthly chart
This month just dumped fucking hard
Copper/gold is a leading indicator for where the economy is headed

>>56359494
Remember also why that sustained dip happened. It was both due to a bear market cycle and vast oversupply due to overproduction from the shale revolution. This is also what pushed natty prices to sustained low prices. Today North American natgas supply is being balanced by increasing demand both onshore (pipelines) and offshore (LNG). Now the market is quite different in both oil and natgas compared to the 2010's

>credit debt at all time high, credit card default surging to all time high, average household savings wiped out, average car payment $750/month, repos surging, inflation surging.
this is bullish to certain retards on this general

>>56359548
consumer spending is what matters in the end, so it's only a function of savings (nil) and credit card debt + credit card debt delinquencies. Credit card debt and delinquencies are well below pre-GFC for now, but they're increasing pretty fast so keep an eye on that and consumer spending

>>56359557
you can't eat a graphics card or a smart phone.

>>56359565
yeah

>>56359548
>two more weeks!!!

>>56359548
As I understand, the logic goes like this:
>recession
>more printing
>stocks pump

>>56359548
>credit debt at all time high, credit card default surging to all time high,
Source? Last I checked these things are climbing but they're not high.

>>56359580
If they drop the rates it doesn't matter if stocks are pumping.

Wow lmfao you idiots actually care about Israel and the US debt and credit card debt? You weren't just memeing? Cringefest, I'm buying this dip

Wow so everyone blanked me about the copper/gold ratio
K cool

>>56359628
I paid mind to it, sorry about not giving you (You)s

/VX bros we're back

>>56359628
Because it's worthless doomer data my guy

>>56359648
Inevitably going to fucking tank over the weekend

>>56359628
I own none of these metals

>>56359628
I usually ignore charts that make no sense to me. Sorry.

>>56358674

>>56358674
escape from tarkov, then you just play the economics portion of raids.
>>56359711
looks interesting

>>56358674
tradingview

Jump into Natagas now or has the ship already sailed?

>>56358674
runescape

>>56359735

>>56359648
Almost nothing can stop this orange juice rally.

>>56359520
Here's a good longer term copper/gold chart that also displays $TNX (10y bond yields)
https://stockcharts.com/public/1466179/chartbook/669089087
Doesn't look pretty

>>56359771
Copper is distorted to look like shit because Xi banned housing construction. Use a reliable gauge of the American and global economy instead (sugar).

>>56359711
I remember playing this back in the day.

>>56359811
What do you mean, distorted? The price of copper is still indicating global supply and demand of copper and therefore the health of the global economy. Why does the crashing Chinese housing market all of a sudden not affect global markets, when booming Chinese real estate markets were used as a bullish argument just a few years back?

OIL
>OIL
OIL
>OIL
OIL
>OIL
OIL
>OIL
OIL
>OIL
OIL
>OIL

>>56358674
Aero/biz/

>>56359867
China is fake as fuck my man, get with it

>>56359754
this
merching on the GE is when i first became the jew

>>56359902
>it's only fake when it strengthens the bear thesis
lol ok

>>56359687
U dumb
It's a leading economic indicator for the health of the economy
>>56359692
K well I explained why it matters
>>56359643
It's ok anon, thanks. I'm used to being ignored here. I often say a lot of things that do end up happening.
>>56359902
bitch u really dumb

>>56359919
Yes, I have no problem lying and misusing data to discredit bears. Bears are inherently evil people, there is nothing morally wrong with using these tactics against them.

>>56359967
What are your thoughts on the jews getting slaughtered the other day?
You tend to have the dumbest and cringest takes, so I'm trying to predict how bad it's gonna be

>>56359987
Palestinians are evil terrorists, Israel will achieve victory. Palestinians stole the land 1000s of years ago and have the chutzpah to claim the land belongs to them.

>>56360015
Kek you are such a caricature. I somehow knew you were a kike all this time.
>stole land
So how did the kikes get it? Did they also get gifted it by the British Empire 5000 years ago?
You fucking tool. You stupid motherfucking Jew.

WATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THE LIQUIDITY MONSTER COMES FOR YOU?

is it happening?

So you guys know the market is going back into bear territory right? It's not normal to be literally going down since july.

>>56360041
Still a few months until it's gone. I have said March 2024 many times on /smg/ now. But like me mentioning the copper/gold ratio earlier, I doubt many heeded it. I know how Burry feels about being ignored I truly do.

>>56360058
funny you say March '24, my view is also bear market until q1/q2. Not in oil though I'm bullish there

Why did the VIX rise on Thursday middle east nonsense

>>56360110
I chose March 2024 first. I'll even give a date just for keks. March 15th lmao.

Btw I mean the real crash happens in March 2024, not that the bear market will end then. I don't think it will end until like Q4 2025.

times are spooky bros

>>56360165
Indeed they are...

>bans are linked to your browser
Lmao fucking jannies

>>56360165
spooky

>can’t tell the difference between amuse bouche vs hors douvre vs appetizer
>get laid anyways


Stay poor, incels!

Where’d all the bull posters go? Remember 11am this morning? Remember when you all called me retarded for throwing a paycheck at options last week for expiry on today? Fuck yall I’m a smarty pants

>>56360314
What was your play?

>>56359206
Meanwhile my cig companies are up
Life is not fair

>>56360326
TQQQ puts and CCJ Puts

>>56360337
Why TQQQ puts over just owning SQQQ?

>>56360327
I guess you're holding JP tobacco.

>>56360351
I could load up on more puts because they were cheaper than trying to own the same amount of sqqq. Then I reason that if I’m throwing Pennie’s in front of a bulldozer, I’d rather get dollars and get squished then more Pennies . I know the risk is get squished but that is no better than holding a triple leveraged etf until you break even. I e done both and I prefer high risk high rewards run; within reason and diversification. I’ll never go all in on play. Hence the CCJ puts. Honestly, inverse /smg/ always.

>>56360361
MO actually

>>56360375
You see WHO getting pushback from tobacco? And elfbar rebranding to escape fda oversight? Fucking China is eating our lunch.

>>56360375
Well I guess you bough a few days ago otherwise you'd be down on it.

>>56360369
I’m just wondering where the fuck you were in Dec.

Okay you guys. The ultimate debate question. Only one wrong answer
>Time in market V. Timing market?

>>56360113
So that I could go all in on SVIX and make an easy 15% on my account come Monday

>>56360380
>You see WHO getting pushback from tobacco?
I'm interested... Elaborate?

>>56360399
timing the time in the market.

I saw this geopolitical take yesterday and I'm wondering if you guys think its legit. I'm pretty much all in cash at the moment.

>>56360399
Lately all you need to do is look at the economic calendar and “time” the double top pattern on spy when the data is released to buy puts, happened multiple times this week

>>56360399
Getting a job is worth more than either.

>>56360416
They taught us in Econ tobacco saves public medicine a lot of money. Everyone dies, it’s best for the state when it happens at age 65 right after retirement. Technically tobacco should be subsidized.

>>56360436
Oy Vey!

>>56360380
All I saw was the 9% div
>>56360389
Bought after dip but before that one ecig maker got their product banned

>>56360413
Good luck and I hope nothing happens over the weekend

>>56360314
I'm bullish. On Israel.

E
I
S

>>56360470
It took all of ww2 for 8 million to die. Israel about to take out 1 million in a day.
>cries as it strikes you

>>56360455
Idk man the balance sheets look like shit for these tobacco companies the dividends are unsustainable at these interest rates.

>>56360041
yeah but banks are doing well!

>>56360423
Doesn't seem logical at all. The jews getting their shit pushed in then chimping out will have no impact on bonds other than to distract the eyes of the world from noooooticing when shit collapses.
Correlated to that, I noticed the UK gilts/bonds that everyone was chimping out over exactly a year ago are now LOWER than they were when everyone thought they were going to cause a pensions crisis.
So if that tells us anything, the general picture is not looking good.
And yes the copper/gold ratio is linked to bond prices too. So it's not looking good regardless. It was in a downtrend long before Hamas domed some kikes.

>>56360456
Thank you anon. I must say though your ID is literally titcow. Which is based. I consider this a good omen

>>56360485
With all the zoomers getting addicted to "healthy" vaping (plus all that weed) there is more money to be made

>>56360502
Oh, for sure money can be made but can it be made in a pace to keep up dividends and pay down high interest debt.

>>56360502
Hell yeah!
>MSOS
>LGLZ

>>56360515
Yea it can baby!

>>56360500

>>56360399
Time in

>>56360436
but also this

If you're here to talk about stupid ass politics you should go back to the board for that >>>/pol/

>>56360542
actually i think the one who needs to go back is you

>>56360542
Based. Though both because of gambling and it’s impact on bond rates I’m super into the house race.

Jim Jordan: Yes 50¢, No 75¢
Tom Emmer: Yes 30¢, No 88.9¢
Patrick McHenry: Yes 15¢, No 97.9¢
Kevin Hern: Yes 14.9¢, No 95.7¢
Kevin McCarthy: Yes 5.9¢, No 96.7¢
Steve Scalise: Yes 2¢, No 99¢
Donald Trump: Yes 2.7¢, No 99¢

>>56360548
>Jim Jordan is the front runner
These fucks should have backed Scalise goddamn
By the way Jim sure does look like he has aged a ton in office.

>>56360547
Suddenly seeing Higurashi posters everywhere, idk why tho

>>56360542
Fuck off kike
TKD

>>56360555
50x returns if Scalise makes a comeback.

>>56360547
>>56360562
No seriously it should fuck off to the board about politics instead of shitting up the thread about the stock market with political discussions. You have an entire board for it, this one isn't it.

>>56359206
BUY CITI THEN AND WAIT YOU IDIOT
JPM IS UP 50% FROM LAST OCTOBER AND OTHER BANKS ARE STILL AT YEAR LOWS
also im eying BTI its battered down pretty low

>>56360562
It's fine if it's occasional and isn't the majority of your posts but if you fill the thread up with it that's really annoying. Plus you're also really very likely to get banned if you go overboard with it.

>>56359031
USB might be a good gamble

>>56360570
>the markets aren't big time majorly affected by political factors
>political factors aren't crucial aspects of determining market strategies

>>56360606

>>56360600
I'm not even suggesting that, just that the political shit you faggots are talking about is meaningless. It's like you're 14 year olds who just found out about neverending war and endless inflation and every other rudimentary concept, and you were so annoying about it that the old heads on pol told you to fuck off too. Seriously you guys are talking about some of the dumbest shit I've seen in here in years but acting like it's akshully a big deal this time. Christ.

>>56360612
>POO id
Verification not required.

>>56360570
Poo in id
TKD
>>56360592
Don't care
On a dynamic IP
I'm also posting itt under my main IP as a different anon, lol

>>56358674
Maplestory is the story of hyper inflation.

>>56360612
You are right but good luck. This is a Chinese and Russian shill board now. Parrots so brainwashed they gleefully look forward to their own communities harm.

>>56360612
Most of us were underrage last time. This is our first time experiencing it as adults.

Another day. Another war. Yeah it sucks but long as humans are around there will be conflict so might as well accept it. As always the U.S will be involved. Another one of those things that you might as well accept. What can you do? Nothing. Except bag cheap shares and live your life.

>>56358346
>$28 return
still in the green baby, could be worse

>>56358674
Roller Coaster Tycoon III

>>56359029
i think i may have fucked up