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>investing

SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME

https://www.forexlive.com/news/why-the-signals-from-the-bond-market-are-truly-terrifying-20231012/
[The sum of all bond market fears is that the combination of deficits, QE, ultra-low rates and a general market mania (think NFTs, crypto and meme stocks) built a house of cards in the global economy that's just starting to crash down. Yes, silly season has been over for awhile but what's beneath is an economy that looks more like NFTs than a real economy and the price is just starting to be paid. If this is the sound of the bursting of the greatest bubble of all time, then god help us because the economic, market, fiscal and political ramifications are terrifying and there's nearly nowhere to hide.]
>Why the signals from the bond market are truly terrifying
US 10-year yields are rising at a rapid pace. US 10-year yields have risen to 4.70% from 4.0% since early August.
>The moves have come despite stable market-measured inflation and Fed expectations. Aside from some moderate underlying strength, there haven't been any big economic surprises either.
The scariest part about it is that there's no good explanation for why it's happening.Lately, there's been some hope that it was quarter-end or some kind of one-off puke but with two auctions missing this week (including today), it's increasingly clear that real-money demand just isn't there. There are scenarios where this blowout isn't necessarily a bad thing and scenarios where it's terrifying.
>1) Foreign buyers disappearing
2) Higher for longer
>3) Volatile inflation future
4) Debt and deficits
>5) Quantitative Tightening
6) All of the above
>Fear scale 10/10

>>56352263
WEEEEEELLLLL me and mah kinfolk been buyin dips now for nigh on 3 generations

>>56352307

>>56352263
Should we add a max pain options calculator into the OP, or does nobody look at the links anyways?
https://swaggystocks.com/dashboard/options-max-pain/spy

first for nigger

I am just buying REIT's and I Bonds until the nukes start flying

>>56352307
>>56352317
I boughted

>>56352328
I too have been picking up my reit purchases. I started earlier this year acknowledging I was jumping the gun, but now definitely seems like a good time.

>>56352305
Bro bonds yields are up because China and Japan are dumping bonds. Japan is doing it because they've been in an economic black hole for decades and China is doing it to directly manipulate the US economy as well as to prop up their dogshit economy. It's fake and gay.

>>56352305
>The scariest part about it is that there's no good explanation for why it's happening
It's actually a fairly simple expectation. No one is getting excited over 4.7% 10y when they can get 5.5% today. At first there was some expectation that these higher yields are a short blip before reverting to zero. Those dudes are getting rolled right now. Likely the same people that thought negative real yields also made sense. Some of these are forced buyers.
>Is this bearish?
Not really. There's been some temporary reductions in liquidity which are pressuring asset prices, but long term 5.5% yields will roll into more/larger national deficits. Every year that t-bills continue to pay out 5.5% yields, more money is created to fund those. Old bonds mature, and get rolled into new auctions at these higher rates. All else equal, stocks and other assets will slowly start to seem cheaper, unless they also see similar nominal increases over time.
Of course, our government could fund this elevated interest expense via tax increases instead. Doing so would arguably be bearish, however treasuries tend to be the most tax inefficient vehicle since interest is taxed annually at short-term gains brackets. Stocks, particularly growth stocks, end up being a better vehicle to avoid these traditional forms of taxation.

As for the real economy, numbers continue to indicate resilience. It's hard to say the common man is doing well, but they're no worse off than they were a year or so ago.

There is some perpetual belief that the whole of global wealth is an infinity bubble, that asset multiples belong at 10-20% real yields like some decades past. I can guarantee you this will not happen. Demographics make it impossible. Retirement saving schemes such as 401k/IRA/pensions make it impossible. There are too many people too focused on saving. These low single digit real yields are where the supply/demand curve equilibrium sits.

>>56352263
Tesla sisters... THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

>>56352363
>Local man cannot stop buying red days

>>56352323
That is an offense combination of alpha numeric characters in that specific order anon. This legal infraction will be logged and archived in a manner that could potentially be used as evidence of criminal activity in any future investigative process or any subsequent legal hearings.

You should absolutely be kidnapped against your will and jailed, have your residence burglarized by armed gun men in black uniforms, have personal items searched through and stolen, and get threatened, assaulted, extorted from in the form of fines and legal fees from courts, etc for daring to reformat such a thought of word into a visible representation of arranged pixels as a form of communication to other individuals.

All those crimes commented against you by the state are deemed just and necessary for your horrible thought crime anon
TLDR: Punishing free thought crimes with numerous violent real crimes under the guise of law enforcement is good and fair and just in our society

c'mon, just buy our 30 year bonds goyim

>>56352443
...byd makes cars? I only knew them as a battery manufacturer.

Why would anyone want sub 5% yields when they can get double that in the stock market?

>>56352443
>not understanding everything chinkese is fake, especially their economics
lemme guess u bought tesla cause u have a daddy kink

>>56352479
They are about to overtake Tesla

>>56352483
Cause they get skerred that line might go down and could lose money, is my guess

>>56352483
Consistency.

>>56352511
The stock market has unironically been pretty consistent unless you're a paperhands retail speculator

BOIL>OIL

>>56352528
BUSSY>PUSSY

>>56352483
No clue, amazing people would even dick around with cd's and such when you can easily make more.

>>56352485
two more days

>>56352528
Somebody had to dig for that oil or gas.
DIGGER>______

>>56352544
Right? Anyone with enough money that 5% would be decent returns is probably looking for even higher returns for the majority of their cash anyway. This all leads me to believe wholeheartedly that this nonsense over bonds is in no way bearish. I just don't want to catch the TMF knife too early

>>56352521
I'm not going to debate the semantics of the word consistency with you.
Over the long term, historically, stocks have tended to outperform. Within a specific timeframe, there is risk. If you have a particular budget, consistency can be valuable. Bonds still suffer currency risk, but that can be hedged.

>>56352573
I mean I get the potential risks of the stock market, I just think the people with enough money to make 5% worth it understand it even more and they aren't fucking around with such low yields

Is NFLX a buy? Like why is it trending down when it beat in q1 earnings?

>>56352604
https://vocaroo.com/17X8mQ0efBVY

TTOO's early earnings call bull trap has redpilled at least one boomer, fuck Sperzel

>>56352604
markets top on good news

>>56352483
>>56352544
>>56352566
https://www.bankrate.com/investing/what-is-the-60-40-portfolio/

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Boomer The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story that Reddit would tell you. It’s a bond market legend. Darth Boomer was a Dark Lord of the Bonds, so powerful and so wise he could use the interest rates to influence the yields to create income… He had such a knowledge of the bond side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from losing money. The bond side of the market is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

>>56352263
Thats genuinely huge if it becomes Common place. Grabbing goyslop rights that isnt popular for cheap and go hard in pushing memes

I’m up 10% for the week and have come to the conclusion that the potential destruction of Israel is bullish as fuck

>>56352263
Based.

>>56352528
Only if you take physical delivery

>>56352544
CDs are a jewish banking scam. Basically a way for banks to get free carry off brainlets too stupid to google treasury direct.

>>56352614
>down to .09c

Kek retard baggie

>>56352615
Max pain and it's consequences have been a disaster for my brain

Damn imagine holding TTOO kek

How do I invest in fake news bros?
What's the biggest news company? I think news stocks are going to do good this year.

I like to choose stonks that perform well on days like today. Is there a name for this strategy?

>>56352751
Gambling

look for stocks with a negative beta, these will be inversely correlated with the market

>>56352759
>>56352751
oops

>>56352759
This includes quite a lot of Healthcare doesn’t it?
I’m assuming this is considered a defensive strategy as well.

>>56352801
ehhhh not really, they are low beta though. beta rating is how much it moves woth the market as a whole. a beta of more than one is considered more volitile

>>56352825
AMGN CI & COP are the 3 tickers Ive eyeballed the hardest this way but I feel like they ran away now

>>56352801
https://www.investopedia.com/investing/beta-know-risk/

this article is ntb

>>56352839
you missed oil imo

>>56352604
It seems fairly priced, not like a bargain. They've grown profits impressively and reduced their debt-to-equity over the past few years. They'll have to keep growing like that to justify the share price.

We still slurping SAVA?

STRIPS etfs can't go to zero right?

Stock market general is now bond maniacs general

>>56352738
40 babies is the new 6million

>>56352950
Imagine legitimately caring about bonds

To the baggie who bought this from me. Kek thanks for playing. No refunds

>>56352965
Lol

Is it regarded to buy UVIX for a hedge?

>>56352984
do fucking not buy uvix or uvxy unless you know what you're doing

>>56352305
is a simple explanation for the low demand that people are just losing faith in the us govts ability to pay its debts? and that a 30 year bet that the us will exist is not worth the potential modest gains?

>>56353029
Lol NO there is zero fucking concern for the US government's ability to pay its debts because....who do they owe the money to????

>>56352650
HAHAHAHA Penis goes in to the vajussy thank you based anime hand jacker

>>56352328
Why would REITs make sense before a war? Less people is a really quick solution to the inventory problem and those are all going to lose a lot of money.

>>56352984
a further elaboration, vix can go down even if the whole market is going down.
vix, despite being called volatility index, is just the current premium/iv for options on the s&p as a whole.

basically go long on vix-tracking securities if you think you know of a major event that the rest of the market is unaware of.
good fucking luck with that btw.

>>56353072
this but unironically. Saved to my Fap folder

>>56353077
No extended war, it's going to be a mass expulsion of Palestinians and they are going to have to live somewhere

>>56353070
The bond holders are owed money

>>56353158
Send them to Dubai or Iran
Who are we kidding we are probably going to send them straight to Vermont. Not enough crime and it’s “too white”

>>56353157
And? Since when has the US not been able to generate billions out of thin air? And again, who is going to hold the US accountable??

Gf left. Been years. Market usually makes me happy. No good trades recently. Hope you are doing good though and if you're having a rough time you're not the only one.

>>56353158
I find it really funny how Jordan and Egypt don't want them.

bros my bank is offering 8 month CDs at 5.25
should i set it and forget it?
if rates go as high as my second pee stream in the morning i can just readjust in 8mo

>>56353182
That is sadly my bet, swathes of the Northeast and Midwest are probably being planned out for them now.
>>56353201
I heard Jordan accepted some a few years ago and they caused some havoc so I am not shocked

>>56353222
consider directly buying your treasuries
or at least getting a brokered CD, you are not getting a good deal directly from a bank because you are their captive retard audience

>>56353242
alright so if i put in the effort to set up a TreasuryDirect account how much effort is it to roll over treasuries? cos if it's a pain i would honestly rather just do the CD

>>56353198
wife cheated on me again :(

>>56353250
Do you have a brokerage account of any kind? You can buy that stuff through them.

>>56353254
>again
anon that should never happen more than once.

>>56352322
Sweet max pain link, bro. I like it, bro.
>>56352328
>>56352379
I hope you know what you're buying. Do they have sustainable income? Debt load? You should ask that for any companies but REITs could be in trouble.

>>56353196
I didn't say they couldn't produce the billions, but they do need to generate them to pay the bond holders

>>56353302
So do you think this will be the one time I'm history that they don't?

today there was a woman in front of me at Dollar Tree going through a bunch of different cards and couldn't remember the PIN for any of them. was this EBT fraud? i don't know how it works because i've never been on assistance

It's literally over tomorrow isn't it bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o89W93TZz0

>>56352290
>gambling

Another uh well night I guess now. Had a fire drill at work. What fun. Everyone just fucking standing round outside chatting or looking at shit on their phones while the place "burns to the ground". In reality I'd say fuck that; I'd get in the car and leave. Took the wife out to dinner this evening. About once a week we'll go out and do something like this.

>>56353361
where'd you go? texas roadhouse?

Today, I was singing Hava Nagila and found a penny in the street.

>>56353364
No. Buffalo Wild Wings.

He sold?

check out this chart I made /biz/
where do you think we go from here?

>>56352290
I'll give you some free financial advice bros
>long TLT
You're welcome

>>56353444
I am starting to see more starter homes locally on the market, but prices haven't started coming down yet.

>>56353460
I'm in central NC and I'm finally seeing some 2 bedroom houses on a couple acres go for like 150k, which hasn't happened for years. Slightly encouraging.

>>56353453
What's the expected outcome for the next 5 years?

>>56353453
>TLT
>up 4% all time
>higher volatility than SPY

>>56353444
logically it goes down
however
pissearth 2025

>/smg/ doesn't realize the market has been in a recession since July just because it's going down really slowly

>futures

>>56353565
Is that one of the small head aliens from MIB? Also yes, long TLT; lower human.

>found the perfect profile on Hinge
>writing her a message
>hit send
>sorry, you're out of likes for today
>begrudgingly sign up for a paid account so I can send the message
>as soon as you register it automatically un-likes the profile you were looking at to make sure you keep sending them money
it's so fucking over

>>56353583
Delete this. I like watching the zoomies buy every pump.

>>56353614
Sometimes I wonder if people here are trolling or legitimately retarded. There's over 20 years of history for TLT. It's literally only up 4%. At it's height it only got up 100%. It's no where close to the performance of SPY or QQQ. Not to mention how idiotic it is to buy bond ETFs versus buying bonds outright, If you wonder why you don't outperform the market, look no further.

>>56353423
I think I saw you there tonight! Im traveling north for two more days, but I was at the one over on Jett Blvd in Frankfort earlier. You look kinda like this guy in picrel, don't you KO boomer, DONT YOU?

>>56353444
fuck... checked... We're going down I guess

>>56353565
I look like this.

Glowie are you okay? Are you okay? Are you okay glowie?

I told you that you would only have yourself to blame after shunning my innocent, kind advice to SELL your TLT and TMF positions. And you laughed at me. I hope you're happy with that choice.

>>56353515
interest rates rise, tlt continues to fall
stay the same, tlt crabs/slightly goes up
interest rates lower, tlt goes up quickly

>>56353682
>only up 4%
Lol stfu you little dicked loser
Stop posting in /smg/ you don't know shit

>be ko
>lose 20%
>b-b-but muh 3% divvy


All boomers get the stage 4 bed sores.

>>56353734
Why it go down so much?

>>56353737
something something weight loss drugs

Tomorrow we're gonna pull 6 Gs straight up into the stratosphere
We're pumping bros

>>56353723
>but...but the dividend yield
This is why you'll never reach 6 figures. Stay poor lol.

>>56353669
Too late to delet.

>>56353649
I saw a hot chick like that once. Dating apps not very useful if you can't save profiles for later.

>>56353649
u got oneitis bro that's where u fukd up

>futures

>>56353896
fucking kek

>>56352483
Their portfolios may already have a lot of stocks and they want to diversify among asset classes. Or policies and regulations might require them to diversify.

They might have lots of money but a poor understanding of investing. So their decisions won't necessarily be well-considered.

Bonds might be an excellent hedge for their financial lives. A banker's job compensation might benefit from high interest rates, for example, so he hedges by investing in long-term Treasurys, which benefit from low interest rates.

>futures
I FEEL THOSE DAYS SO CLOSE TO ME
PULLING ME HOME
WHEN I WILL HOLD YOU SO NEAR TO ME AGAIN
I'M COMING HOME

https://youtu.be/UO5yIhxiVRw

Bought tlt. Down 3% how long till I double my money?

>>56353896
lmao what kind of fucking prompt gets you this image without tripping a content filter?

>>56353791
I like how he called you names and you had data, it's why I still come here. Poor guy is probably retweeting some arrogant youtube grifter.

>>56354048
It is a fundamental play. Anybody looking at a Treasury ETF chart and going "ew this chart looks icky" are outing themselves as the real retards. Of course it looks icky. Interest rates have been going up. Guess what happens when interest rates go back down?

>>56354084
So don't buy TMF until rate cuts is what you're saying

>>56354084
You seem like a Reddit cuck, no grown ass man uses the word “icky” unironically.
>>56354098
Yes

>>56354098
Yes, if the fed signals they are going to progressively back off rates it might be worth buying.

Hey jackoffs how are fututes?

>>56354108
oh lawdy the word police is here

>Futures
Past

>>56354114
Crabbing

>>56354125
Nice. Very chitinous.

>>56354125
That's the equivalent of a negative 226% yearly gain.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Tesla stocks are going to get revenge shorted tomorrow. You have been warned. Pic related.

https://archive.is/KiS6m
>The Consumer Is Starting To Buckle

>>56354158
Can confirm
I cut back my spending significantly since I lost my job
I only have enough runway to make it six years

>>56354184
If you sit in t-bills and buy the coming market crash, you could easily extend that to 10 years.

>Pic related
>>56354158

uh bros, it seems like shit is getting real. Has this fuckery ever happened before?

>>56354213
I do not believe it is smaller.

Why in the fuck would you make a slim version more expensive?

I remember fondly back in the mid/late 2000's when the PS2 slim came out. It had a significant price drop and by that time there were a TON of PS2 games that were good. Getting a $99 PS2 slim was a bargain.

Nowadays? PS5 ain't got shit that's worth it. Not even Demon's Souls remake. Video game industry is pretty fucked anyway with the looming recession that's gonna bfto out of consumers and streamers alike.

>>56354231
You noticed they are charging more for a version without a disk drive right?

>>56354156
>FACTS and LOGIC man gets OWNED with FACTS and LOGIC

>>56354231
Nigger.

>>56353669
Jokes on you, I buy every dip.

>>56354246
>you vill own nozing

Speaking of physical media, I'm shorting more retail stocks

>>56354258
ygmi

>>56354282
Kek, unironically good news for Gamestop. Still not worth it though but the irony is there.

>>56353029
Bonds are exploding because no one believes the Fed will actually man up and bring inflation down, 4% is neg real yield, and Jay the Faggot is going to continue to let inflation run hot

>>56354266
>>56354282
I thought it was a joke when I first heard you had to rent a stargazing permit in some New York park to look at the fuckin sky. When are they gonna start renting us air to even breathe?

Are they gonna kill all the trees because trees are made of carbon and carbon bad so we won't even have enough oxygen next or is that phase a few decades away?

>>56354308
>physical media is so fucking dog shit retailers won't even carry it anymore
>this is good for a business centered around physical media
???

Recession is cancelled motherfuckers. The fed is gonna start fussing. Bobos will be cartel-style executed.

>>56354342
>this is good for a business centered around physical media
>retailers won't even carry it anymore
Which means less competition.

>>56354342
Some people will still want it. It can be nice being the only supplier left in a dying industry.
For example, look at the recent performance of coal stocks.

>futures

https://youtu.be/D3pAVbeUi10?si=dF5lTkZO2L5ogEGh

is it a dumb idea to be long for this earnings season? i was 2k up in unrealized and didnt sell yet for this cpi print. dxy/10y got me a lil shook

Alright goyim, start spending your money again, inflation is over.

>Walt Disney, $DIS, is raising ticket prices at its Disneyland resort by up to 9% and lifting annual pass prices at Walt Disney World by as much as 10%

>Meanwhile, at Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida, annual pass prices are going up by up to 10%, with the highest-priced Incredi-Pass reaching $1,449

Bros will Disney even survive by the end of this decade? There's still barely ANY kind of hype for the Wish movie too KEK

>https://youtu.be/oyRxxpD3yNw?si=RoNTZkeRwe7Fe5i2

>>56352738
Gonna do good? Lol media is dying, none js watching their propaganda anymore, everyone is on socialmedia for news

>bond auction goes badly
Nothingburger haha line go up
>another bond auction goes badly
Lol who gives a shit line go up even harder santa rally here we go
>one more auction goes badly
NOOOOO AAAAAAAAA IT'S JOEVER SELL SELL SELL REDDIT SAVE ME AIEEEEEEEE
Why are they like this?

>>56354542
Because they realized oh shit there are no buyers left because treasury is raising a war chest of money because the government does not have a debt ceiling.

spooky movie night?

>>56354084
What if interest rates just keep going up?

>>56354542
>Fuck over bobos with retard pump
>Bull trap mumus in the process
>dump now that the shorts have covered

At least we arent Argentinean

>>56354601
how did you get this photo of me

>>56352328
>I am just buying REIT's
The frequent shilling for O in the last two weeks got me interested, but then I saw they will report earnings on Nov 6. It's unlikely they immediately will jump to their ATH within hours so I still can buy after that date, with somewhat better information.

>>56354649
see
>>56353444

>>56354618
A better title would be "All my neighbors are niggers" and it's literally real footage from life on the south side of Chicago.

>>56354484
cpi ex literally everything that people spend money on lmao

>>56354681
Speak for yourself only retards pay retail.

>>56354681
You know I'm sitting on almost a million of bad debt so when corporate tax rates go higher I can unload my fair share? You literally have no idea how anything works.

>>56354231
the slim is the bogus explanation for the price hike

>>56352379
I recently bought the best commercial reit, MCDs, that dip was just too good not to slurp

Yields...

>>56354733
Sir you're not allowed to be that smart here

>>56354359
>It can be nice being the only supplier
I mean they wouldn't be the only supplier for physical media (Amazon is likely to pick up the slack more than them), but it still amuses me whenever good news pops up for Gamestop cause it's funny.

oil

>>56354823
>Yields keep rising

oh fuuggg

>>56354084
>Guess what happens when interest rates go back down?
When that happens, SPY and QQQ will outperform TLT. As they always have. If rates don't go down anytime soon, they will still outperform TLT.

>Stagnation in the EU confirmed
>Persistently high inflation even with electricity prices dropping through the floor
>Recreation & Culture inflation skyhigh
>Service inflation skyhigh
>Transportation inflation skyhigh
Yet stocks couldn't give less crap. Price gouging and profits to the moon. Normies got their wage increases this year so profits sank slightly but now that is over, companies can go back to inflating and increasing their profits. Normies are happy with their 5% wage increases
Electricity prices here are near zero and yet inflation is not coming down. There is nothing left for them to do but to keep hiking since the other categories are barely moving. Feels good man

The UK is fucked

>pre-market

>>56354951
Goddammit do your job jannies. Why do they like bigbeniz trannies so much?

Kind of weird that that both bonds and DXY are down while other currencies are up. Higher than expected inflation forcing ECB to hike further?
Gold is massively up and so is silver. Copper on the other hand remains lazy as ever. The war probably forcing investors to seek shelter in gold/silver.
Oil is still going up and up despite the US restoring massive amounts in their reserves. I don't know when it comes to oil. That market seems even more jewed than copper

gold is strong indices are weak
earnings are at noon european times, looks like they will be shit

>>56354951
god dam Caroline is packing

>>56355007
That's the power of not being a fatass and doing regular PE work.

orange juice is mooning

oj gang wins again

>>56355048
Errybody wanna invest in the stock market when they could be growing their portfolio on the cock market

>>56352730
HAHA YEAH IMAGINE GETTING A 100X IN THE PREMARKET

>>56354932
I just can't believe the niggers at the ECB aren't looking more into profit and price gouging. it's literally their only job to regulate capitalism, and they fail at it.
My guess is they draw a "pain line" for average population and they allow themselves to go close to this pain line hoping things would solve themselves and "letting the market regulate itself"
Fuckers haven't learned shit in economy classes

>>56353583
I unironically get screwed frequently anytime i buy in huge sums, the last time i bought a huge sum well before the most recent one ended up being a month long dump, i didnt sell this time. Inb4 this is the time where there is no full reversal to ath

>>56353649
Heh a girl brushed up against me at the grocery store. I probably shouldve hit on her. She pressed her shoulder up against my back in a gentle way and I didnt even consider that she was hitting on me

>>56354521
Ehh women seem to have an unusual fascination with Disney and its probably them giving into their desires of being a princess

>>56353254
>again

Watch as the banks tell the whole world they are collapsing and markets open at a cool clean -1% and close -4%

>>56354125
Wish I had this much. I could stay a neet with this looming anxiety of needing a job.

>>56355061
WAKE UP AND LOOK AT TTOO YOU LAZY NIGGERS

>>56352730
Wew ive seen this stock before iirc. Wish i had that. Instantly solves my money problems or rather my needing a job problem.

>>56355134
I used it have that much, then both stocks and bonds tanked the past few years and continue to crash and am down roughly 30~40% and counting and now my port is teetering from 6 fig hell to 5 fig hell. Now I have to look for a job and hope I can earn enough to stop the constant bleeding my poor ol port has been undergoing.

>>56355140
I forgot they did a reverse split, disregard kek

>>56355144
Wait nvm looked more into it, looks like its actually down the chart is just deceptive.

>>56355145
I actually also had that much back in 2020 after a big win but didnt sell intially, through a series of events i went back to five figures. Its depressing how close i was to escaping working for good

>>56355061
>>56355140
>>56355154
A story in three parts.
>bioshit
Anon come on you should really know better.

>>56354330
>Are they gonna kill all the trees because trees are made of carbon and carbon bad so we won't even have enough oxygen next or is that phase a few decades away?
Yeah Bill gates is funding these facilities to suck CO2 out of the atmosphere (it sounds like they're using metal hydroxides.)
Because doing it passively with sunlight and plants is just to pleasant and releases breathable oxygen. Gotta burn oil, use up metal, and keep it away from both plants and people.

>>56354282
I'm not shorting but I've got puts.
>>56354649
My O puts are ITM. I think I'll close them and reopen after earnings.

Bond market collapse is gonna fuck us all and there's no avoiding it if you're in the US.

>>56355188
It probably won't be bad enough to cause the government to default unfortunately.

>>56355193
Doesn't need to. Just needs to successfully kill the USD and the richest nation on earth becomes as broke as Greece.

>>56355075
Their chairwomen is a literal criminal, nothing suprises me

Oil brothers.

>>56355188
How do we capitalize on this? Inverse ETFs?

DX00 and ES00 are down.
What did they mean by this?

>>56355188
I own gold for this reason

>>56355225
TMV etf(assuming he means rates going up 100s of bps)

>>56354951
>jannies instantly ban people for even questionable content
>this shit is still up
I know they do it for free but I can't imagine the sad cunt that needs to power trip their bias even on these generals. Pictures of cute girls or anime girls that aren't even nude get taken down but literal femdudes dongs are ok.

>>56355243
>Pictures of cute girls or anime girls that aren't even nude get taken down but literal femdudes dongs are ok
Kek, so much this.

>>56355050
Arent oj futures up like 350% since covid?

>>56354484
Kek this faggot “deleted his Twitter” a week ago because of the feedback he got last time he tweeted this.
The fuck is wrong with them bros

MCOM

>>56355253
I think if I said something that retarded with my real name next to it I'd delete my account too.

Day five of posting about REDACTED five hundred times per day until its over $1 each. REDACTED Thot #2003

>>56355263
The point I’m making is he came back to Twitter after a week on blue sky social. He didn’t even delete it for a month lmao

uh.. Mumu bros?

>>56355289
its joever

is this the only smg? quiet like a funeral in here

>>56355298
its 6 in the god damn morning on a work day, market doesn't open for another 3 and half hours. only neets and freaks posts at this hour

>>56355298
Well the markets are closed. All you can do is watch futures bounce around.

>>56355300
I'm posting from the office

>>56355289
It's premarket and already I am kneeling to bobo. Someone breathe life back before it opens....

Also I noticed tranny posting goes up when it's bearish. Coincidence? I think not!

>>56355300
I’m off work today and I’d already be at work posting if I did have to work today. Which I don’t. Also I got paid today. Also fuck you.

>>56355285
>feed clogged with ugly stuff
just stop following Amerijews lmao

>>56355304
It's well known you get more eunuchs when things start to come apart.

>>56355308
>following
I don’t even have an account.
I can’t even see replies anymore unless I make an account.
The only laughs I can get on Twitter anymore are googling tards like Krugman

Wtf happened to the Broncos and why the fuck does the NFL care so much about Taylor Swift?

>>56355324
>why the fuck does the NFL care so much about Taylor Swift?
The entire reason for the summer rally in stocks was the Taylor Swift effect of boosting consumer spending. Not like we can roast the nfl after this summer.
Taylor has been dead to me since she broke up with Matty Healy anyway

Day five of posting about REDACTED five hundred times per day until its over $1 each. REDACTED Thot #2021

>>56354484
Definitely the next fed chair

>>56355315
I'm not talking about you genius I'm talking about Krugman's complaint that his feed is filled with ugly kike nonsense because he only follows other kikes

So many good pm earnings today

>>56355368
Baggie and I are betting pretty hard against WFC. What does everyone else think?

>>56355224
They doubted us. Tried to sow mistrust among us. Sought to separate us from our money.

Remember: ALWAYS INVERSE GLOWIE

>>56355378
Personally I think it just ends up crabbing

Holy fucking shit oil bros what happened?

>>56355387
Price discovery. Fair value $110 btw

>>56355387
DX00 is about to hit its opening price.
Everything will be red.

My stock WILL make profits and I WILL be a millionaire before 2030

Thinking about selling everything, feels like ww3 could start during the weekend

>>56355422
Oil and gold are happy when war starts. Short overvalued broad markets, long undervalued commodities.

>>56355372
>>Baggie and I are betting pretty hard against WFC
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>56355422
Do it, anon. I'm dumping all my dividend stonks I've held for years and buying PST, TMV, and a few calls in each just in case.

>>56355372
>>56355430
How do I buy a stock pre-market?

>>56355436
It'll dump at noon just wait!

>>56355372
Total banker death as always.

What does it mean when the nikkei has been pumping to levels haven't seen since the 80s? What does that mean for the US market?

>>56355436
Use your institutional buying/selling apparatus or you set a limit order

>>56355449
If only...

>>56355372
Well your first mistake was going long on any of Baggie's suggestions. Literally the Cramer of smg.

>>56355453
look at the yen to see if foreigners are the ones pumping it

>>56355467
He went long on my suggestion actually.

>>56355467
This makes my pp into big pp

EH just became the first flying car in the world to get approval......

>>56355484
Looks like a death trap+human mixer

EHANG JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>>56355473
Well then you're probably going to need a stop loss. RIP.

>>56355484
Wtf is that shit. I'll stick to JD or BABA.

>>56355512
this is one of the most historic days for humans since the invention of the steam engine. the first flying car

>futes shitting the bed
>friday the 13th
>bank earnings next
>option expiration fuckery

Im living in a mumu nightmare

>>56355524
opex is next week

Pray

>>56355523
We've had them for a while now, they're not very practical.

Whoah!
what the fuck was that in bonds
huge, huge buying - serious fear buying of bonds

>>56352483
risk appetite, some of us were around during multiple stock market crashes, 5% risk free aint that bad, especially if you have like 150k+ in cash and are gainfully employed and dont need to gamble, however im thinking about gambling

>>56355560
all those you saw are experimental evtol. EH is the first one to get approved for sale. 300K USD. cheap for a flying car. they gonna sell thousands....

it seems like everyone is derisking before the weekend
this reminds me a LOT of the beginning of Russian/Ukraine conflict, where every Thursday and then Friday there would be a sell off, selling of stocks, buying of bonds
however, now we're in the dynamic where the market is desperate for any buyers of bonds to show up
so maybe we rally, off of the lower yields

Strong day for AMD today, even stronger week for AMD starting Monday. Inshallah.

>>56355573
If you want a cheap flying machine you can buy a hang glider and strap an electric motor to it.
In the US you can do this today without any special licenses or approvals for a small fraction of the cost.

For today, sqqq, srty, or soxs?

>>56355629
That sounds like a great way to get into the newspapers. In the obituary page.

>>56355642
It's on my todo list.

>>56355629
you can't sell that. EH is the first company that can sell an autonomous flying car. They have a monopoly now for years....

>>56354484
Where does the CPI get their fucking numbers and what exactly do they compare to? The month of the previous year?

>>56355656
Well dont do it today, it's international jahoodie day, I wouldn't put it passed this administration from borrowing 5 million dollars at 5% to shoot a rocket at your contraption, then sprinkling a half dozen AR-15s on the wreckage to label you a terrorist and using the false flag as grounds for confiscation of our fire arms and ultimately a full blown war with Iran.

>>56355659
>autonomous
Oh great, a flying coffin you cant even control lmao

Sell while you can, niggers

CITI BOYS Q3 EPS $1.63.

Why are banks making money and raising guidance?

>>56355629
this. shits and giggles I was looking into motorized paragliders after the Israel thing. they are surprisingly affordable and capable with no licensing and a few simple rules and regs.

>>56355703
LMFAO

>>56355688
you can get as drunk as you want and still be able to fly since it's autonomous. it's safer than a pilot since 5g and ai tech is advanced enough.

Welp I guess I'm not making money today.

>>56355484
It has no wheels bro, how is it a car?

>>56355706
Motorized para gliders are cheap too and that's much more popular than motorized hang gliding.

>>56355730
well, it's more of a flying taxi if you want to be picky.

>>56355703
Hank williams jr knows something baggie don't ?

>Our total loss-absorbing capacity (equity plus long-term debt) is a
formidable $496 billion, while loans, which are our riskiest assets, are at $1.3
trillion. Our liquidity is extraordinarily high with cash and marketable securities
of $1.4 trillion.

jpm doin alright. Looking like rate hikes are coming hard if this is any indicator

can someone post the fed brr gif?

blackrock revenue miss, is this the end? are we going -50% now?

how is jpm so fucking strong

>>56355786
PE fags get the rope.
It turns out consistently undermining the companies you invest in isn't profitable.

>>56355791
up 1% premarketing despite decreasing revenue and eps, all because of beating their shit (((forecasts)))

>>56355484
Hot damn that's big if true....

>>56355484
>Trusting your life to a chink flying car
>Inb4 it slices someone's head off whilst landing

>>56355821
EH just beat TSLA in having the first autonomous vehicle....

My BAT / BTI shares are down 4% because you boomer burgers are banning vapes. REEEEEEEEEEEEE.

>>56355830
he´s getting to become a little fat piggy at this point

Give me a good stock tip

>>56355855
my best investiment is on orange juice. stocks are fake and gay

>>56355855
sell everything by open, things aren't looking good for banks. and after yesterdays fiasco with no one wanting bonds this will open the way to another leg down

Okay, (((who))) is buying all the oil? Is it Total again?

>>56355484
How do I get in without walking past chink blender blades?

Baking

>>56355882
those blades are so strong, you can stand on them. check out their safely videos. 10 years with no accidents.

NEW
>>56353478
>>56353478
>>56353478

>>56355888
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bk6SJLSQY8

>>56355889
die

>>56355889

>>56355889
There's STILL a GME baggie thread. KYS.

>>56355889
Fuck you
>>56350666
>>56350666

Just...

>>56355867
market is going up tho

>>56355889
Wow. I don’t want to wish I’ll upon anyone but fuck you bro!

>>56355914
did the same thing yesterday and we dumped hard in the middle of it

>>56355889
I was in a good mood, and now i'm fucking pissed off, thanks for nothing! asshole!

>>56355923
and then it went back all the way up almost

>>56355929
It wasn’t over. We’re back

>>56355929
almost and then i dumped again

>>56355943
yea it always goes up no matter what

who else shorted bonds at close and is now utterly heemed?

This is the last smg isn't it?

>>56355960
Now pray oil goes to 110$ and we get another rate hike otherwise you're fucked.

ENOUGH WITH THE AI SLOP

>>56355960
me but I'm also long oil and gold so all is well

>>56355973
nah, we gonna continue the ai rallye now, we only need the 7 big caps for spy to go up anyways, fuck all the other stocks they are meaningless

>>56355983
My NVDA short from yesterday was perfectly timed so far, I'm betting that h&s completes by the book

>>56355973
Why?

>>56355962
Yes but that's a good thing.

alright we all have to listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpOULjyy-n8 so we can get into a better mood before the market opens up. everyone can blame the cock sucking asshole who linked the GME thread, like what is he a fucking extra chromosome hoarding crayon eater? i'll bake a new thread once the song is finished and i calm down. asshole

>>56356019
based boomer rock baggie

>>56356041
>>56356041
>>56356041

>>56355484
Can’t wait to see all the webm’s of people getting maimed by these things in a year

iwm heemening round 2

>>56356606
>>56356606