/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56347097
Businesses can't get low interest rate loans and old debts are being called in, so they have to trim the fat and go lean on hiring. It's going to get much worse.

>>56347174
Thanks anon but pls don't say that. Also aren't there over 11 million unfilled jobs in the US? That is srsly going to become chaos if it gets worse pls cope with me man

>>56347174
Pls say sike.

>>56347182
Don't take me too seriously, I'm just doomerposting to cope. Spent the last year doing the "learn2code" meme and once I finally starting applying to jobs the market went tits up and every entry-level/intern position now has 400-1000+ applicants on LinkedIn (many of them likely having CS degrees or being experienced SWEs that got laid off by other companies). Gave up and now I'm stuck in my old job in a place I despise. Feels bad having invested so much effort into something just to realize it was a massive waste of time and energy. Probably for the best though, as tech culture is pretty cancerous and full of pseudo-intellectual fags that desperately need to be clubbed repeatedly with vigor.

>>56347258
I'm the same as >>56347174 btw, IP changed because the Feds are astral gangstalking me.

>>56347258
I really appreciate and value your answer. I feel the same. Started learning coding in my free time (I'm in Sales Engineering) and every.single.position. has 300 applicants. I feel you anon and it s good to see someone else Sharing this pain bcs im so tired customizing my applications only to be rejected not even 24 hours later by the same words. It is honestly so frustrating and messes with me as a person too.

>>56347097
>raised rates
>destroyed economy with coronahoax
>imported hundreds of millions of competition (immigrants)
>rampant inflation
Basically they forced all the cattle back into the workforce to survive. The reason the board is dead and many others as well is because everybody is busy waging nowadays to survive. There are no more opportunities like 10 years ago and the days of easy money are gone. The only people making easy money is some specialized wagies in certain fields, especially during the Work From Home era.

No point going into the fact that coronahoax eroded all the trust that was left in government and society in general. The only people who still believe in the system are normies and the vaxxed cattle.

>>56347182
>Also aren't there over 11 million unfilled jobs in the US?
Yea, 11 million minimum wage jobs.

Come to canada. My city councils biggest concern right now is mandatory racism training for all council members because a black man 4000kms away had his neck kneeled on.

>>56347561

You know I was actually considering that. It is just the proof of funds that is setting me back, I have to save up some more but at least Express Entry is better than the exploitative H1B system that is completely broken and in dire need of a reform.

>>56347307
What you guys need to realize is the number of applications doesn't fucking matter. 95-99% of all of those applications are people who are horrifically underqualified. Hell, a lot of them are probably bots soliciting information. They are like the clickbait videos of job applicants, a dime a dozen. This is why employers use automated filtering systems before a human even sees your resume, to filter through the steaming heaps of spammed shit that is thrown their way.

Make a burner email and then go and post about some "opportunity" to make money literally anywhere online, linked to the email, and watch how quickly that inbox fills with trash. That's the current state of the job market and has been since online hiring became a de facto standard.

The secret is to get your resume sifted out of that pile of shit somehow.

>>56347309
>No point going into the fact that coronahoax eroded all the trust that was left in government and society in general. The only people who still believe in the system are normies and the vaxxed cattle.
This. How can you go back to trusting something that blatantly lied to you and threatened you? Only normalfags have such short-term memories.

I work in globohomo medtech and all the big companies have frozen hiring and new projects (Medtronic, Boston Sci). This is now filtering down to their countless suppliers which is why heads are starting to roll.

I've had at least 3 jobs interview me and multiple other people. One I know interviewed 10 people. Then they relisted the job. Like what are they doing?

bros.....i just want it to be over...I've had so many interviews the past months and all nada. These shit paying, bottom of the totem pole entry level jobs i cant even get. These niggas want 2+ years of experience for drone work.

>>56347174
>>56347182
I applied for a job that was urgently hiring but the hiring manager saw I had previous experience and immediately turned me down, probably afraid I would take their job kek. Places will rather self-implode and go out of business than make smart decisions.

>>56348526
Number of applications matters if you are applying to hundreds of jobs.

I pay a software to apply to 15 jobs a day for me and I get an interview every 3 days.

>>56347314
Minimum wage is apparently like $17 an hour now. I hear it all the time. Busboys making $17/hr before tips. Cashiers starting at $17. The front desk workers at planet fitness start at $21/hr. Literal restaurant wagies are making 6 figures on average. If you have skills, your wages are stagnant though. People who were making good money before are not getting raises, it's just the bottom feeders. I'm seriously considering leaving my career to work at a grocery store or home depot. Why wages doubled for the lowest income wagies but remained the same for people with degrees will never be understood.

>>56347097
>Fresh out of college
>Hope
>Job market
Kek, you deluded nigger faggot, you tricked yourself into believing your pathetic career was gonna give you more chances, guess what? You have as much chances as I have for holding pond

>>56353620
If he lives in the US, most likely yes

>>56349309
They're brewing the new pandemic

>>56353620
Play something, idk, Aranjuez maybe

>>56353620
It depends entirely on the career you picked

>>56347097
First economic downturn, huh?

>>56353609
Exactly, this development makes zero sense. I mean IT has been overpaying in cushy offices with all you can eat snack bars etc. while retail jobs were wageslaving their employees, so maybe the inflated bubble of IT had to burst, at least for now. Until it gets better (let's face it, IT will never go away completely) I'll just hold onto my job.

>>56347097
Im a neet at this point i dont ever see myself getting back into the workforce unless its something super entry level since i dou t theyll hire me for anything with decent pay and a job i want to do for money. It oretty much feels like its over and i have to find another way to make money. Gamedev seems to be my only shot at success as i suck at stocks

>>56347309
>There are no more opportunities like 10 years ago
Heh you sound like me. I make these posts regarding gamedev in /agdg/ on /vg/. 10 years ago making a video game if a certain quality would likely guarentee success. The same can no longer be said. Very depressing as I wanted to make games since I was a kid, didn't take up the opportunity until it was already the end of the easy money. Now gamedev is swamped with tons of people many of which seem quite talented which raises the bar.

>>56350842
I have a friend with a terrible female manager. From the looks of it she poorly trains while also expecting the employees to know everything. Seems to demand he acts in certain ways and how its all about professionalism while she acts the complete opposite. She's super toxic too and somehow upper management is unaware. She is definitely aware of what she's doing too. Doesnt suprise me that there is such high turnover for a good office job. A hypocritcal toxic piece of shit that pushes people into quitting or if thry dont she fires them to remove the threat of bring surpassed and "take her job"

Very unfortunate circumstances since I know how this stuff goes. Youre left utterly helpless and cant do a thing but await either getting fired or finding a new job cause upper management is obviously not gonna do anything. Does irk me that he doesnt keep a record off all the stuff she does since it feels like a goldmine for a lawyer to pull a six figure sum and importantly, it results in her getting fired and having her reputation tarnished openly. Its not evem about the money. Ive experienced these types myself and it pisses me off to no end that they get away with this shit while reprimanding subordinates for the slightest of things

>>56353609
Yeah Ive seen this too
>wal mart employee
>$17-$21 hourly
>professional with degree and experience >add a few dollars more
Seems anything higher than minimum wage jobs are having their pay stagnated. Why even work these harder jobs for only a few dollars more? Its like taking the supervisor position at the grocery store, a ton more responsiblity for $1 more in pay. No thanks. Iirc a few of my friends have also noticed this.

I'm still unemployed after 7 months searching for a data science job. Got laid off earlier in the year. I thought I finally landed a new job recently, then those cunts rescinded the offer

Every day I wake up and grind linkedin applications and recruiter calls, so tired of this shit brehs

>>56355086
I gave up last year after getting bamboozled yet again. It's demoralizing, it really is. I just hope something comes of my gamedev/stocks, cause I do not see myself ever going back to an office job. How many applications so you typically get out? I assumes its a lot considering how streamlined the process is now

>>56355096
Probably about 5 a day but during the summer there were not many job postings. It's picked up slightly in the last few weeks

>>56353609
Blue collar already faced automation/outsourcing and now white collar is catching up

How much ny@N c@t money would it cost to sniff her brapper? 2082 lil kitties?

>>56355086
Geez, Anon I am so sorry.

>>56355086
bro, this shit is fucking me up mentally. Right there with you.

>>56355086
>data science job
Meme fake industry, almost certainly 2 digit IQ, you deserve to be unemployed

>>56347309
Arete.

>>56347097
Honestly my pay would be great if it weren't for taxes. I worked 124 hours this pay period and made net 5k but take home after taxes was 3.3k.

5k
3.3k

It's so fucking over. I'd make almost 120k a year but 1.6k go to niggers and kikes every 2 weeks. I'm literally a slave.

I would highly recommend you all lie on your resumes. Ever since I said I have multiple years of experience in a management position i've been getting more interviews for supervisory roles. Although I did cancel my first interview, and exited the video call on the second one because I was to buzzed to think because I thought drinking beforehand would make me a smooth talker, my 3rd interview which was over the phone went a lot better, but alas I realized I made a mistake of telling the interviewer that I worked at a company before it even existed (made some mistakes when writing up my fake resume). Nevertheless, I am confident that I will land a job i'm unqualified for and will continue applying to jobs with my newly updated resume.

>>56349309
facto, i also work in medtech and the same thing is happening at my company.. literally been doing pointless work or nothing the past 4 months while we wait for 'the new projects to get sorted out.' There have been rolling layoffs since April and i dont think there is any end in sight. Medtech is also the most homo shit to work in and I'm realizing this after 7 years in the field. There is literally nothing new or interesting to make in this field that isn't just a scam

>>56352073
what is the name of that software?

>>56347097
It's rough. I competed with over 2,000 applicants to get a tier 1 remote tech support positions that pays 18 dollars an hour as a college graduate. Most of the other hires are black, women, or both. We just have to do what we can until the job market recovers.

>>56359720
I feel you anon they also take out for my “pension” too and Insurances, dues and i just end up taking home less than someone making significantly less pre tax

>>56362404
yeah this bullshit system is literally rigged against me i dont have kids and i have never gotten sick because i can afford healthcare and yet they still take money out of my paycheck every week for all these bullshit "benefits" that i dont even get to use why should i pay for welfare and social security im a based individual who can survive on his own i dont need these stupid handouts
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>>56362833
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>>56347097
>be a wagie making barely enough to support myself
>apply for part time jobs on the weekend because that is the only option I have
>get "hired" by places, they give me a rough start date and say they will call for details
>they actually ghost me

So is this what the job market has become? People saying they will hire you then ghosting you? I was weirded out the first time this happened but now everyone is acting like women you meet on a dating app, its fucking insane. Whatever its not like working more was going to change my life anyways

>>56355086
same here. did a masters in it. hardly getting an interview. one offer that got recinded. 1 year looking now. I go for walks at night and watch the trains come and go and think about ending it

>>56364091
Pretty much, i was suprised by it too. The worst though is when they ghost you at a fucking interview time, fucking assholes

>>56347097
Everything is downstream of credit contraction. It will get better, but probably in like one to three years from now. Good luck, OP.

>>56364337
This, financial conditions will not be tight forever

>>56349544
i've seen companies repost the same fucking job once a week for 6+ months on linkedin, with each reposting capturing 1,000+ applications.

>>56349309
i work in accounting. the one pharma company that got back to me has a stock that is circling the drain and is danger of being delisted from the NYSE. fucking kek.

>>56364091
>He thinks it is just women on dating apps
Wrong anon. This is how women do rejection in most facets of their lives. The ghosting is just one extension of this, as HR is predominantly women. Why would they waste their time telling you you’re rejected when they could just never call you again? Same with online dating. Same with offline dating. Women just ghost now. You’re in ghost vagina world now.

To all the USbros here, have you considered working in the EU? Netherlands, Belgium, Scandinavia, and so on offer pretty good jobs for English speaking individuals. I can't German yet I've landed a job in Belgium and later in Netherlands in battery research and I had only a "lab assistant" position in my CV.
Coding is still very much in demand in Europe as well and it ain't as oversaturated as in the US from what I hear. The pay is worse though.

>>56360295
I've considered doing this many times. How likely is it that they would check on if I actually have a degree if I say I have one?

>>56364523
I've heard there's an online database where employers can check and see if you have a degree, so it wouldn't be that hard for them to figure out if you're lying or not

I thought all you tech trannies were getting WFH 6 figure jobs just from sending out a meme application from indeed?
Are you niggers telling me you all were just LARPing and tricked teens and brainless into believing your bullshit?

>>56355403
>Blue collar already faced automation/outsourcing
I understand outsourcing, but what kind of automation is happening?

>>56355086
what are your credentials? Straight out of school or what?

>>56355058
Because those harder job’s aren’t actually harder. You all gave away the game during Covid and exposed yourselves. Have fun competing with 1.5 billion Asians.

>>56367015
Yes they are. Company execs tell those below them what to do.
You think people at the top do anything? They do jack shit all day and the wagies underneath them do 99% of the work for less pay lol.
Its always been like this but people have cottoned on to it now after rona and I highly doubt with AI advancements that the job market that things will remain as they are. Its all being set up to fall, the biggest empire in modern history is about to capitulate. You can see it in this thread even. Why work as an office wage busting your ass, doing things you despise, LGBQX diversity training, carrying an entire team or department while getting shit wages while roasties get promoted over you with less experience because much vagina. Yeah no thanks. Now you can scan groceries/stock shelfs (easy no mental stress work) and earn almost on par with office wagies but the stress is little to non existent and your coworkers are bearable non lgbt faggots. Yeah its over. What makes it even more hilarious is that the first ones to get laid off with comfy packages won't be wagies, it will be the execs that get payout packages AND it just so happens another fancy role with good $$$ has been created what a surprise! Meanwhile wagecucks are left to clean up the utter mess leftover.Only broken souls and desperados would subject themselves to this. For all the anons who returned to the office, don't go.

Let them fire you, pro tip ((they)) won't :)