/biz/ - Business & Finance

My green stocks are augmented

K-ON 0DTE QQQ anon, you might be in the clear

O bros…
We called it

I kneel bobo

First for rat face weasel fu

>>56341851
Unless he already sold.

we like to get a little silly in the stock market

>>56341834
Very funny, editing a wispy mustache on that poor innocent girl.

first for phoney pump

>>56341851
Qrd?

That's not a weasel that's a bug.

I thought war was supposed to be bullish
why is my KTOS going back down??

>>56341834
Just remembered I own SBX

WE ARE BACK

>>56341886
markets were expecting emergency rate cuts by today

That all you got bobo? -0.05%

Bobo here, anyone know an archive that you can get free pdf of books? I cant afford them after today. Fuckign DRV

god is good and fuck bears

i do not believe bobos should have rights.

>>56341905
it keeps going down

>>56341834
Why did he do it? I mean if I was defrauding my investors out of billions, I'd be fucking someone who's at least an 8.

>>56341918
library genesis and z-lib though you need an account and (((tor))) for z-lib
idk I have a guide with more literature websites on my PC but I'm phoneposting in bed

The term "bear" in financial markets should be a synonym for subhuman.

>>56341872
Just an anon purchasing 0DTE options at an unfortunate moment
I took some pity on him because he avatarfagged with Yui and I kinda liked K-ON

we posting about how retarded bears are?

>>56341896
Why on earth did you buy that?

>>56341937
Never let them know your next move

>>56341938
>library genesis
Based Libgen user.

>>56341918
I've always been a libgen fan. You'll have to Google them to see which TLD they're using today.

Do you faggots really just watch the line all day and freak out? I just buy something I think will go up in a couple of months and check later and see more money. Wtf is with you anxiety ridden retards?

>Killing babies by bombings is killing future terrorists and certainly not going to make people become terrorists haha

Finally, a proper bake.

So many mean racists, bigots, and ANTI-BEARISTS in this blatent Bobo discrimination hate thread

>>56341954
Day traders trading with 5-500x margin

>>56341954
oil happens to be a tad volatile you see

>>56341955
hopefully this time they will wipe out the entire "state" of Palestine from the map

>>56341955
>Implying they want solutions instead of more killing.

russell is still deeply red in comparison to the other indicies, bear case is still on the table. once small caps manage to follow suit with the large cap then we can say we are actually in a bull market

>>56341954
I buy ultraconservative ETFs, but I stare at the line all day because my job is even more boring than that

>>56341954
Speculating, especially intraday, can consume an infinite amount of effort just like software. It's hard not to get sucked in.

The mathweasle has seen its shadow and scurried into its den. 6 MORE MONTHS OF BEAR MARKET.

>>56341954
Yes? Never get caught sleepin homie.

>>56341973
my son russell two thousand is a sleepyhead but he is going to wake up soon!!!

>>56341948
Sorry, SBUX

Is there any bear thesis? seriously ?
The market is green , yields doing great so yeah we are back

>>56341994
Nice
I like the SBUX ham and swiss croissants

>>56341998
Yes, there is still a bear thesis.

>>56341994
Yeah that's what I thought you meant and I'm wondering what your original thesis was.

>>56341953
>>56341938
Thanks, ill give it a shot now. Sucks being poor again

>>56341998
Top signal

>>56341998
You might be the bear thesis. Bobo doesn't really come out to play until everyone is thinking "yea, we really are back now"

>>56342007
I'm just retarded

Buy PXT on the TSX before close. Thank me later!

>>56341963
>>56341965
>>56341974
>>56341978
>>56341984
Mh... This is all very concerning. Well I hope you guys take it easy and not stress out too much. I'm going to focus on other things until my next paycheck where I take another grand and buy index funds. I can't picture living with the kind of stress some of you guys do. I feel like you would have to be insane to want to do that...

BOBO SISTERS
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED

>>56342043
MUMU isn't playing nice with us

>>56342043
bears have blown every chance they've had to push the market meaningfully lower this year. this time will not be different

>>56341998
We still haven't reached the average month for lag from yield inversion/interest rate hikes.

TPST

today i made money
but not really a lot
so i still can't afford
to simp for an e-thot

>>56341961
remember the 6 red candles!

Go go go!

>>56342034
I bought something else related to leaf oils and I'm up 1k

>>56342041
Well, I'm too old to be hucking my snowboard and/or bikes off things anymore; so what do you want me to do?

Bulls make money, pigs make money, bears get slaughtered

>>56342082
Good leaf oils are the way to go.

>>56342073
I might be a customer of theirs in a few years if things keep going this way.

>>56342092
Yep

>>56342083
You can always pickup new hobbies and meet new people. Like shooting pool, throwing darts, hiking, or bowling, etc.

>>56342092
that pic is actually becoming painful accurate for me

>>56342056

what is 'fuck you' money these days?

Today is the tightest crab range in a while. Usually a much larger move happens after these really tight periods. Maybe mega pump or dump day coming in the next few days?

Power hour?

>>56342073
When does it stop mooning? You can't just cure liver cancer and make infinite moneys.

When youre 28 but you have 35 yeaes of work experoence

>>56342130
100 million

>>56342115
Man are you really trying to get me to gamble on billiards/darts/bowling? Who do I look like, Paul Newman?

>>56342115

>>56342130
about 3.50

>>56342130
Enough to buy a failing social media platform and name it after a single letter

>>56341938
z-kib is still alive? i thought they got v&

>>56342142
Fucking Hell I can't believe they all had their FTX "polymer" or whatever with that thing.

>>56342142
the kind of ugly that would just straight up kill my erection if i was forced to fuck her

>>56342142
Anyone have a picture of her teeth? Something looks very wrong with the lower third of her face.

>>56342148
Orcs don't have this option because orcs are incapable of independent thought.

>>56342041
>and not stress out too much.
Oh my god compared to my last job this is incredibly relaxing. I'm pretty much just watching grass grow.

>>56342142
What makes billionaires what this?

>>56342148
Cool getting advice from a future zodiac killer copycat

>>56342146
Hey Paul Newman was fucking cool in the color of money. There is no denying that.

>>56342172
*want this

>>56342164
In yesteryear she ... uh

>>56342172
musk also went for grimes. i guess when you are fucking 10's all day you gotta change it up.

>>56342115
That’s my wife you’re talking about

>>56342163
She looks like one of my exs actually. I really liked her.
I'd take an ugly girl I've struggled through things with over a very attractive stranger any time.

Is KO going out of business?

>>56342188
Yea she was strange

>>56342174
I was always more of a Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid kind of man.

>>56342204
What has Cramer said about it?

Today it was revealed in court SBF considered taking Saudi money as a loan to pay off debts. Not clear if he followed thru and got rejected, or decided against.

>>56342206
she's actually superior to us all and basically a mutant
she even did a ritual and everything
that's why she gets to be some kind of femcel and a member of elite society at the same time
it's just all the specialness, just all different kinds of every imaginable type

>>56342181
Damn is there a more detailed picture, she has maxillary crowding. Most likely a chronic mouth breather.

>>56342204
maybe

she was able to rise above oppression of females because she's such a special stand-out when it comes to personalities in general

Who bought BIRK

>>56342217
>jew begs sandpeople for bail money
Bet they loved that

>>56342181
She looks like this girl that works 3rd shift at the gas station by the interstate

>>56341941
always has been

>The average 30 year mortgage rate is now to 8.09%, per CNBC

>Chipotle, $CMG, is raising prices for the 4th time in 2 years, per BI

>The Chinese real estate giant Country Garden effectively declared that it has defaulted on its debt, becoming one of the biggest casualties of China’s deepening property crisis, per NYT

>The collapse in Treasury bonds now ranks among the worst market crashes in history, per BI

>Consumers are starting to buckle for first time in a decade, former Walmart, $WMT, U.S. CEO Bill Simon has said

>US debt will become unsustainable and trigger default in about 20 years, if it stays on current path, per BI

>Americans are paying nearly 40% more on home insurance compared to 12 years ago, per Bloomberg

>The monthly cost of a new mortgage is now 42% of U.S. median household income, 10% higher than on the eve of the 2008 housing crash, per UBS

>50% of large and mid-sized banks are imposing tougher criteria for commercial and industrial loans, per Bloomberg. That’s the highest share since the 2008 financial crisis, besides for the pandemic

>A record 17.5% of buyers purchasing a new car in the third quarter are paying more than $1,000 a month for their vehicle, per WSJ

vvix is creeping up yet market is flat
ruh roh

>>56342223
Theres also this, but no bottom chompers.

>>56341834

>>56342242
Saudis are the most tolerant Muslims towards Jews. Too much oil money for the House of Saud to be overt assholes.
The stars have aligned. The orb has been pondered.

>>56342252
>>A record 17.5% of buyers purchasing a new car in the third quarter are paying more than $1,000 a month for their vehicle, per WSJ
It's really incredible how retarded people get with their cars.

>>56342252
So the market is only seems to be relatively up because of everything inflation?

>>56342157
yeah they've got a few mirrors.

Imagine you buy hurricane insurance, and then all the rich people benefit from a miraculous magic forcefield while your house ceases to exist a bunch of fucking assholes stand around going "what hurricane"

That's what fucking shithead commie gestapo do to ordinary people who try to participate in the economy. You are a bunch of fucking carnies.

>>56342252
Get your bags ready for the Santa Rally and get prepared to bail before Q4 numbers.

>>56342252
Add this.

>>56342270
I'm pretty sure we're teetering on the edge of deflation but a lot of the louder more obvious stuff hasn't reacted yet.

>>56342252
>they think this is bullish

>>56342257
Awful smile can't even see her mandibular front teeth.

>>56342252
>Chipotle, $CMG, is raising prices for the 4th time in 2 years, per BI
Lucky for me I just survive off ramen these days

>>56342284
So 50% of people in this thread?

>>56342284
This will actually kill the US. When only immigrants have children you get radical revolutions in every social institution including the economy. People aren't taking that seriously enough.

>>56342204
To the faggot that told me to buy
Fuck you

>>56342252
The fed printed 80% of the money supply in 22 months and it went to the richest people who buy and sell stock(as well as the degenerates) . Only when that money is drained will the crash come.

>>56342299
That's a shame. I made money of KO puts earlier this week.

>>56342303
Drained to where? Its here forever bobo. I swear bears are the dumbest people

>>56342286
bbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhaahhahahaha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw3tIMZ2ilc

>>56342286
No one thinks any of this is bullish

>>56341937
They belonged to the same tribe, not just the obvious one, but also the whole "rationalist"/LW/EA cult.

>>56342313
Drained out of reserve/savings accounts which will squash credit and consumption he means.

>>56342303
this time the music only stops for the middle class

>>56342315
this guy does >>56342313

>>56341834
its her....

>>56341834
To think /biz/ would have gone to prison to sniff that goblin's gym sock. Sad. None of you will make it.

>>56342314
Every nation with Indians among the elite will die.

>>56342284
>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO COUGH UP 300K FOR A 2 BED ROOM 1 BATHROOM HOME YOU CAN'T LIVE WITH YOUR PARENTS
Nah I think I'll get my tendies from the air fryer instead

What are some good British stocks to buy

>>56342314
Post 80's Bongistan really just is one big demoralisation project innit

>>56342240
can't afford the shoes, can't afford the stock

>>56342338
>Closed borders for Israel
>Open borders for the goyim
The west only has itself to blame

>>56342383
But how do we profit off of this?

>>56342366
I just bought EXAI

That’s a rather sobering chart

>>56342383
How come the jews get to genocide the gazanians, but nobody is allowed to genocide the jews?

So do any of you faggots here actually make money trading stocks?

>>56342366
If you want to invest in British people then long Canada.
ASTL seems decent but I haven't gone through their balance sheet. I'm shorting their banks though.
If you want European stocks go with Poland. There's the EPOL ETF and I've been writing puts on a car manufacturer there STLA.
Britain is in the decay phase of its secular cycle and the elite is bringing in foreigners so it's unlikely to recover.

>>56342346
Gotta ask the BBC on that

>>56342267
I will unironically laugh out loud if cars end up being one of the biggest catalysts for the next financial crisis. Delinquencies, loans, and repos are really fucking retards over right now and its getting worse kek.

>>56342411
I trade stocks for other people and pocket some change. I thought that was the goal?

>>56342422
>for other people
LMAO

>>56342422
based slave buyer

>>56342411
i made $10 on TUP today

>>56342421
I need to dump my dying Corolla before then. I just can't let it go though, the gas mileage is so good and I can leave it alone for months after driving it for years with no oil change and it just starts right up.
There's so much corrosion though it can't pass state inspections and it's actually missing a lot of pieces because of how many things I've run it into.

>>56342411
Some days we do,
Other days we get heemed
So trading isnt always,
As good as it seems

>>56342411
Most days I do pretty well, some I do extremely well.
Today I got fucked by XOM though.

>>56342406
>tfw the crash is already happening and ongoing
>its just being distributed more broadly and less concentrated into any one sector that people can just pinpoint like they could in 2008 and 2001

>>56342284
things are so bad we're living like its wwii

I'm so bullish bros. This is the calm before the giga pump god candle.

>>56342477
>dubs
bobos btfo

>>56342461
It's not good.

Financially speaking, attractive women owe me sex.

For the past two weeks, on several occasions, I have started typing replies to posts, only to quit half way through thinking 'who really gives a shit? I don't give a shit' and then I close the window.
This is my first post since.

>>56342488
most people who complain about taxes never do their taxes

The music isn’t stopping

>>56342494
i started to do that last year or might have been the year before that even. not sure what it means.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>56342504
It is for bonds.....

>>56342493
This thread is missing some attractive (female) bottoms financially and business relatedly speaking. Although the janitorial staff will be quick on their feet to remove it because they are trannies (male), and have long since parted with their dinks!

>>56341834
"Why do they persecute me so"

Fuckin kikes man

Went to take a shit and everything rallied.

Power quarter hour?!

>>56342172
All else aside, this picture was from like a year ago. She looks young, smooth skin.
>>56342181
How did she age 10 years in 1 year? Amphetamines, no sleep and not eating I guess? I remember she bragged about not needing to eat anymore because of the drugs.

>>56342414
ASTL is a classic value trap. SPAC at $10, a year later bought back 30% of shares at $9 a share to cash out major holders, then immediately dumped to $6-7 where it's traded for another year since.
Pays an irrelevant token dividend. The narrative is that they're transforming the business from traditional to electric arc furnaces, burning most of their cash and consuming all cashflow. In theory government subsidies should negate a significant chunk of this remaining expense and the end result should have some real value, but in reality it's a long timeframe to wait for questionable shareholder returns.

I drove by their facility in Sault Saint Marie a few days ago. It's been around for a century, it's a good operation, just not for shareholders.

>>56342142
Tfw when no more weasel pinning days

>>56342411
win some, lose some, then lose some more, then lose a lot, then wait for wagie check

>>56341834
LOOK AT HER
like holy fuck she's not even 30 and looks like she's got a foot in the grave already

>>56342561
Interesting, I guess I'll skip that one.

>bobos calling this a scam and me a glownigger are getting margin called
hahahaha i tried to tell you to close your shorts but you didn’t listen

O bros
Even the AI knows what's up.

TMF calls r green baby greeeeeeeeen

>>56342494
>>56342511
It means you are both faggots

>>56342573
rip yahwehlovesyou

kek lmfao dont doubt the glowie

>>56342379
Ah, so that's why you're long DLTR

>>56342494
I do that too. It generally means I’m in a more depressed cycle, and have to wait until I’m feeling energetic and lively again

Damn breh what is happening?

Worth it to keep my shares of Pioneer Drilling now that they're getting bought out by Exxon? Will I get recompensated in the form of Exxon stocks or just get money?

>>56342576
I don't think you need to avoid it entirely. There will probably some timeframe in the near future where you'll be able to hold it and flip it profitably. Even buying today, you could likely see a decent payout within a few years when those catalysts do eventually materialize.
But it's not a permanent buy and hold, and it's not likely to rerate suddenly tomorrow, or next month.

>>56341912
>>56341963
>>56342313
>>56342577
>>56341921
>>56342593
>>56342599
Please, anon, do it for your parents. Your gender dysphoria and all of your other obsessive thoughts and behaviors would go away if you would just try some antipsychotics. You could feel whole again if you would just seek help.

My fundamental case for buying MNST at this price is that I'm worried that in the near future I'll hate myself for not buying

Power 120 second?!

I'm all in on shorts

None of my open orders are going to get filled. I should have set the limits lower.

cpi shock is deffo happening now

>>56342651
Thank you for your service!

kek mass replying faggot how much is you down son

>>56342666
>ID: war
>No. 666
>time: market close
uh oh

Ding ding ding how'd you fuckin faggots to today?

Lol

Oh god

Lmao

What are bears going to say tomorrow

When the market goes up

Hahahahahahaha

>>56342684
-0.9%
Fucking XOM.

Let's just have the most blatantly immoral and dishonest society we possibly can; that will show the terrorists.

>>56342438
Dump? Sounds like a keeper

>>56342684
+0.13%

Boom.
High quality shill image.
Bing cannot censor me anymore.

>>56342684
down 5% and lost yesterday's profit. i will recoup my losses!

>>56342494
I do that too, either stop halfway through or at the captcha

k-on tranny, how much money did u make?

>>56342684
+ 0.85%

>>56342677
The hormones you take are slowly killing you, and they're not even treating the thing making you sick. The longer you take them, the higher your risk of blood clots and cancer. Please, for your own health, seek a psychiatrist and treat the obsessive behaviors that are controlling your life.

Thanks for the money, bears.

>>56342684
+1.36%

>>56342684
+0.19%

>>56342694
For a while I had my uncle renew the inspection. He would sort of ziptie things together enough for it pass for a week or so. He told me it's gotten so bad he's not really comfortable doing that anymore so I just pay the tickets when I get pulled over. One of these days I'm pretty sure the wheels will actually fall off.

>>56342252
some boomers pay an advisor to send them headlines like this in their boomerboxes, so thank you for doing it for free

>>56342686
I'm not a bear I just like gambling

>>56342715
Depending on the actual damages and repairs needed it may still be better than buying another used car or god forbid a new one

Had to let go my beater of 10years last year, now i got something newer with a bit of debt, but barely drive

>>56342684
-.73%

>>56342731
I actually already have a second car (also a beater Toyota) so I don't have to replace it.

CPI better kill this retarded pump

>>56342745
God you idiots are so butthurt hahahahaha

>>56342745
The pumping shall continue until morale improves

>>56342734

Just got a break from work
Can I get a quick rundown on what happened with the treasury auction thingy and why the FUCK are we still retardpumping?

>>56342619
>Will I get recompensated in the form of Exxon stocks or just get money?
If the deal completes and you're a PXD shareholder, your PXD shares will disappear from your brokerage account and 2.3234 XOM shares per PXD share will appear in your brokerage account. It's an all-stock merger so you won't get cash.
>Worth it to keep my shares of Pioneer Drilling now that they're getting bought out by Exxon?
It's worth being long PXD if you think the market is underestimating the probability that the merger will complete or the value of XOM relative to PXD when it does complete.

>>56342684
Mildly down, but I autoslurped some more Wheat so everything is going according to plan

>>56342734
bro all u have to do is bow down before the tech overlords and make guaranteed returns on a daily basis. it's that simple.

>>56342411
today I made money, tomorrow I may not.

>>56342770
Stealth QE. The political establishment has decided that maintaining power is more important than controlling inflation.

>>56342684
0.07%

>>56342770
The auction was bad and ppi was hot, so we pumped because the equities markets are entirely fraudulent

>>56342760
I laugh at this every time because it's true.

>>56342684
+2.55%

>>56342745
Inflation is over anon
Get over it

should i get 8mo 5.25 CDs?

>>56342798
PPI already came in hot.

>>56342770
Because they dont care anymore if its obvious or not. Markets are fake. If we close here on the weekly or higher we broke out of the wedge and we're turbo mooning.

>>56342798
Damn aging Krugman is a memento mori.

>MSFT
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!

>>56342811
I bought a bunch of MSFS DLC planes last quarter.

>>56342806
markets are going up because majority of companies are still profitable. Simple as

>>56342798
>4 dollar gas
You got me fucked up

>>56342821
They're all eeking by on accounting tricks or losing money outright.

>>56341918
>Drv
You the guy whos been posting about it? Knew I shoulda taken profits when I saw that. Im holding srs till total hoomer armageddon.

>>56342823
It's almost $5.00 by me.

>>56342811
GOOD EVENING SIRS
>>56342823
$3.10 here on the East Coast. I'm pretty sure milk was under $4.00 at Aldi too.

>>56342828
TM will do well.

I bought one share of the S&P yesterday and I'm up 30 bucks so far, this is easy money

>>56342828
No, they are not "eeking by".

So what's the best flavor potato chip and why is it UTZ salt & vinegar?

>>56342794
>>56342804
>>56342806
>>56342828
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

FUCK you absolute idiots, you deserve it

>>56342879
>vinegar
absolutely disgusting

>>56342879
i would expect you of all people to know that it's Kettle brand Korean BBQ

>>56341834
Actually how fuckin jewish is this market? What was that afterclose pump?

>>56342879
>salt and vinegar
ok I hate you for the most part but this is actually very based. top tier choice
>UTZ
have you even watched mad men

>>56342864
Now post literally any company that's not one of the seven that propping up the entire market.

>>56342745
its gonna come in hot and the market will moon dxy dump.
because its good news=good news bad news=good news
there are no excuses for a big pump anymore, so we will mon up in a straight line anyway. thats just how the market works

>>56342850
OI VEY
They figured it out, shut it down!

oil getting crushed

You guys do realize you are being antisemetic right?
You aren't supposed to be making money. You are supposed to use the market as a means to give your money to the chosen people.
Think about that.
Think about what you're doing.

>>56342937
Is that why profit is taxed and losses are not

>>56342935
what is dead may never die

>>56342930
>the most logical interpretation of the market

>>56342935
The idea is to buy fear (real estate REITs)
Isn't the most normie take on the market that there will be a real estate crash?
Except the crash has already happened and this is the time to buy.

I have family members who work in real estate and people are not defaulting.

Buy O

So why is MSFT getting heemed after hours?
What was in the report?
Is 2024 the year of linux on the desktop or something?

>>56342973
Bill Gates said that he hopes for a peaceful solution in Palestine

>>56342973
Wtf is this bullshit
>Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT) said on Wednesday that it had received a notice from the Internal Revenue Service that it owed $28.9B in back taxes plus interest and fines for the tax years 2004 to 2013.
>In an 8-K filing, Redmond, Washington-based Microsoft (MSFT) said it received the notices of proposed adjustment on September 26.
>"As of September 30, 2023, we believe our allowances for income tax contingencies are adequate," Microsoft said in the filing. "We disagree with the proposed adjustments and will vigorously contest the NOPAs through the IRS’s administrative appeals office and, if necessary, judicial proceedings."
>Microsoft added that it does not expect a final resolution on the matter in the next 12 months, but that it did not expect a "significant" increase or decrease in its tax implications over the same time frame.
>Microsoft (MSFT) shares slipped around 0.3% in extended-hours trading on Wednesday.

>>56342973
Microsoft said on Wednesday it had received notices from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) in September, seeking an additional tax payment of $28.9 billion, plus penalties and interest for tax years 2004 to 2013.

Turns out, you can chase a corporation for being tax cheats, but if your name is Hunter Biden, they can't tax your ill gotten gains.

>>56342883
>implying I'm short
You don't need to drink the koolaid to profit from a fraudulent market, dumb fucking mumu

This might be the most Jewish week in history

>>56342991
They know that. They don't trade or invest or anything.
They're just here to be astroturf, gaslight, and be glowfaggots.

>>56342893
QQQ/SPY options trade until 4:05, so you get extra semitic price action in the last few minutes

>>56342988
>Microsoft added that it does not expect a FINAL SOLUTION
Jew bros....

>>56342963
MBS REITs would be good too, home builders had a pull back (XHB)

kek no verification required. ever.

>>56343013
I don't have enough knowledge of mREITs to know which ones are good buys.

>>56341834
>29
>looks 49
She is so fucked up it's unbelievable.

>>56343046
still a millionaire btw.

how does she look 7 and 70 at the same time

>>56342963
>Isn't the most normie take on the market that there will be a real estate crash?
Office REITs have already crashed and bounced, that was the sector seeing real panic. VNO rebounded from $12 to $25 approximately.
Residential likely has more downside ahead. There is some optimism that rates will just kind of magically revert back to zero and real estate will maintain value. More likely that rates stay high, 5yr variable costs rotate into higher cost loans, cashflow vanishes, and this triggers some larger decline in asset values exacerbating the problem. ZIRP isn't coming back, because the fed knows it would kill what little trust still remains.

Best to wait and see how things play out these next 6-12 months though.

>>56343054
Anon, I...

>>56343046
LE TEMPS DETRUIT TOUT

>>56342988
It's called the tax man is coming and he's sticking it to the biggest tax dodgers out there
Protip AMZN and NFLX are next

>>56343070
FUCK NOW I'M WORRIED ABOUT MY WASH SALES

>>56343059
I understand what you're saying but you are way too bearish. This isn't 2008. A lot of your fear has been priced in and high quality REITs can handle these rates no problem.
O stock's revenue has been increasing massively throughout this higher interest rate environment. Its stock is down because of fear, not because of inherit value changes.

Last quarter was the best they've had in their history by a large margin. I highly encourage you to look deeper into the situation. The best REITs with large cash reserves are actually buying property right now because of lower prices.

>>56343081
Your losses are probably too big for anyone to actually care

>>56343091
It's not just about whether they can handle their debt load and remain solvent, it's also a matter of value.
You can get a nominal 5.5% return right now in treasuries. If you make an investment and achieve less than that, you've effectively lost money. There is an opportunity cost.

You're looking and seeing a stock that is trading ~30% lower than it was during it's peaks of the last few years. Nominally the loss is actually a bit less than that, as it's continued paying dividends.
But look at 10 year t-bills, they're also down substantially. The yield an investor can get today is higher than two years ago. The playing field has shifted. The discount is imaginary.

Then you look at rent/housing being relatively unaffordable right now, and that's just an extra headwind on top of everything. It's hard to see housing costs continuing to outpace the general economy. Maybe you have some vision that the US will mirror past bubbles such as in Canada, China, Australia or New Zealand, but to me that view is just delusion.