/biz/ - Business & Finance

>NEWFAG

>blood red
>-0.08%
lmao

>all these muh yield curve shitters in the catalog
Either you're wrong and I make it through being a bull or you're right and I can have peace of mind as everything melts away into nothingness around me. Win/win for bullchads. Bobos on the other hand will either rope from FOMO as we shoot to jupiter or rope once their doomsaying is proven right but they don't end up being Micheal Burry and instead are dragged into the muck just like everyone else.

short the market

oil sirs, we are plummeting

>>56278464
by buying bonds?

>>56278482
Yes, TINA is dead

>>56278450
>A+++ mumu cope

>10y gaining it all back
So lame, can't even blow up properly

>>56278450
Based and bullpilled.

>politicians bickering over house speaker drama
>43 days left to decide on a budget
Expect even more sharting ahead

Will for the uninversion of the curve the 10y go higher and higher or the 2y come lower?

>newfag

This is getting boring.

>emerging market bond aggregate yields at 8%
>higher than junk bonds in developed but actually backed by sovereign countries

literally WHY would you pick anything but emerging if you want bond exposure
the default risks are so fucking overblown imagine going for some shit corpo junk bond in the west instead of high yield bonds backed by Saudi Arabia or Turkey

FUCK I BOUGHT BONDS IN LEU

>>56278580
FX diversification: [x] Achieved

>>56278558
pick related

>Paris experiencing massive bed bug invasion

kek import the 3rd world, become the 3rd world. I'm gonna invest in a shitload of stocks that focus on entomology and disease control.

OH GOD MY GREEK BONDS ARE IN DRACHMEN

Uh guise how do I claim my 5000 Reichsmarks?

Oooh the yield on long term Polish bonds is mooning.

>>56278597
>go to paris with gf
>she gets culturally enriched you get stabbed
>make it back
>dude gets bankrupted by needing to go to hospital more often
>girl has aids
>also your house now infested with bed bugs

Can I get unemployment benefits if I never worked?

>>56278619
According to "Allgemeines Kriegsfolgengesetz", a law from 1958, the modern state of Germany will not pay back any debt incurred by the "Deutsches Reich" so essentially it is worthless.

>>56278681
So much for risk-free government debt.

SPY closes down 2.5%

>>56278681
Oh no bondbros we got too cocky

>>56278680

>>56278640
They should have staid in Paris and used the free healthcare.

My Venezuelan bonds will save my portfolio

ANYONE ELSE BUYING LEU BONDS ?

HOLEE SHIT.

>>56278698
It's over, V-shape reversal, 3% yields EOY

>>56278681
i knew who did this............

>>56278717

>>56278734
Meds

That last smg was pretty bearish, let's bull this one up. Who's with me, I'm buying another tranche of NVDA

>>56278688
>>56278692
4.5% interest since 1936 would have been a nice gain, höher für länger.

Soo suddenly PE matters again?

>>56278734
Either that happens or the opposite, or something in between

DAX green kek

>>56278717
Would that imply FED cutting? Can't see it under 4% otherwise.

Just what in hell even is EU? Literally turned green... just like that. Yeah, the US is gonna pump today. Probably just a dead bounce but still gonna pump.

>>56278766
Imagine not buying below 15P/E three years ago as we told you.

gonna>>56278808
EU markets are completely schizo, always were

Good day my basterds the great british pound is rising

>>56278813
Lockheed Martin has a P/E less than 15, hmmmm.
>>56278817
Jepp, stocks completely reversed a -1% "dump" because... I guess because they were oversold? I still maintain that this is just a classic mania pump in a downward trend though. Still a completely retarded market though.
But 0DTE bears will get eviscerated today

>>56278817
The funny thing is that as soon as the US enters a recession, it suffers a severe setback, while the recession in the EU itself is not significant. The EU markets do not make sense if you look at them as a reflection of the EU economy, they are rather a reflection of the US financial markets.

>>56278848
Of course, its all connected but what do you mean the recession in EU is not significant, its all doing down the gully here too

>>56278380
Bobos never learn. Can't wait for the new Mott Capital memes

>>56278874
The EU is in a recession, but the stock market is near ath. Shit is all about US liquidity.

Gonna buy some today and go away

>>56278906
US stocks not EU, to be specific

>>56278905
Dunno why people assume that technical recession = everything is on fire and stock market shall die. It's a narrative I would expect from YouTube grifters, not /smg/ elite.
Everything works as it used to. Simply some sectors are cooling down

>>56278874
>what do you mean the recession in EU is not significant
I believe he meant on a more global scale. If the US enters a recession, everyone is fugged. If the EU enters one, not a big deal. A bit of a simplification but it is the way it is.
Of course we know that economy =/= stock market but we do know that if the US crashes, there is an extremely high chance that the EU crashes as well

>Gold

lol
lmao

>>56278922
when your charts look like something out of a geology textbook it might be tim e to take a step back you get what I'm I'm saying cowboy?

>>56278941
if it breaks down from the 1,800-1,820 support zone it'll go to 1,650

>>56278941
buy ze dip sir

>Candlechartdinnerfags

>>56278954
Peter and gold bulls in general seem to be a bit too complacent with this gold dip. It's at support yes but it needs to confirm the bottom before anybody has a reason to go long

>>56278954
>buy my bags

>>56278954
I remember Peter's podcasts from the beginning of this year when Gold went above $1900. He was saying it's the start of the bullrun and that everyone should call his fund managers to sign up. Fun stuff.
He also unironically claims he not wrong, just too early, which is exactly the same as being wrong in money management (opportunity cost). I still like to listen to him to charge up my schizo batteries.

So I'm in the office but nobody I know is in. Everyone around me is out to lunch.
Do I eat lunch at my desk now, at risk of the first person returning from lunch to think I'm sad. Or do I lunch when everyone is back behind my desk?

This is a business related question of course

>>56278983
>Do I eat lunch at my desk now, at risk of the first person returning from lunch to think I'm sad
Why would anybody think that? I fuckin hate eating it with others. Talking while eating isn't great and hearing/seeing others eat also isn't appetizing.

>>56278994
Yes, I relate.
I'm just sensitive about what strangers think of me for no reason other than my brain bullying me

>>56278983
Nobody thinks like that, buddy. You're just externalizing your feelings because you haven't learned to cope with them on your own.

>>56278895
Tell that to the yields then. I don't make the rules they do.

>>56278941
It's over.

oh boy

It feels really good that my financial future in retirement is secure just from maxing out my Roth IRA with good, dividend paying companies. My wife’s 401K is just a cherry on top

>>56279096
.>6

>>56279096
At 7% you buy your house twice. 1M for a 500K house.
Also your first 5 years (60 months) you pay 30% of that final interest figure. 300K on a 1M mortgage.
So bank gets 30% of their take, you still have 900K left to pay.

>wake up
>futures are green
What happened? It looked scary last night.

>>56279129
That sounds terrible

Yield on the ten year is back below 4.8.
Getting nervous fellow bobos

>>56279109
If you stared maxing it out by the time you hit 25 years old, and are making $50,000 a year or less. Yeah, that'll get you there! Great job Anon!

>>56279096
Ahhhh yes. Very bullish home furnishing

>>56279160
$50,000 isn’t the cutoff

>>56279129
This will have consequences

>>56279109
Buy OPAP

>>56279129
>>56279151
I thought that looked wrong, I thought it was about twice at 5% on a 30 year fixed (I checked it's 5.31). At 7% you pay just shy away of 1.4x in interest, 2.4x total.

>>56279167
It is the cut off from a savings rate standpoint. It won't be enough to replace your income in retirement. There are several factors here, (retirement age, retirement duration, retirement lifestyle) YMMV.

>>56279204
>It is the cut off from a savings rate standpoint.
Explain this

>>56279209
Again, there are a lot of assumptions here.
>save for 40 years from 25 to 65 years old.
>7% average annual return.

I don't know your age or income, so let's say you are 25, making $50,000/year. If you get a 3%\year raise. You will be making about $160,000 when you retire. Your Roth will be worth about $1.58M. Using the 4% rule, your "safe" withdrawal rate is 63,000/year, or only about 39% of your pre retirement income. Now the 4% rule is designed for a 30 year retirement, so if you are dead by 95 years old, and want to replace 39% of your pre retirement income. Your good to go. If you want more cash flow, or live to 110. It's not saving enough. Now imagine that you are making 100k/year now, and will be making over 300k at retirement. That same 1.58M that you saved won't get you nearly as far.

OILYSISTERS I'M GETTING FISTERED

>>56278597
Aren’t bedbugs an american problem? They should just ban the burger tourists.

>>56279290
Based doomposting mathsanon.

I’m gonna start loading up on wework don’t @me it’s not going anywhere my gf loves it

>futes

>>56279290
What are those calculations? This is a shitposting forum. And a scamcoin shillhotspot. Stop talking about real things.

Is the plunge protection team buying bonds now?

>>56279336
I do think tickers with fewer symbols are more likely to make it.

>>56279204
What downpayment amount are you using in your calculation? With 20% it's double.

It pains me to say but I think it's time to short oil.

They intervened on bonds overnight after 30yr touched 5%
We'll see if it actually hold through US open
The last 3 early AM thin liquidity interventions they've done have all failed dramatically around 8:30-10:00am
If this one fails too... oh boy
Would be wild - a lot more likely we get a relief rally imo; if it does reverse for the 4th time where PPT/Fed intervention fails, we're in for some serious shit

>>56279399
>They intervened on bonds overnight
sauce?

>IT'S OV-ACK
WE'RE BACK

>>56278523
Kek it's still here, we're nowhere near the bottom

>>56279399
I hate how fake and gay the markets are so much bros.

>>56279147
eurozone soft landing bullshit
doesn't matter we sold too much yesterday and we need to rinse everyone who bought options with vix at a 20 handle. selling will resume friday in all likelihood

>>56279329
If you save using doommath, and things outperform, you just retire early. Some use 10% or 12% returns. But I don't think that's a safe assumption for the next 20 years (my time horizon)
>>56279344
/smg/ is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get. And that is officially the most normie boomerish picture I have ever posted on all of 4chan.
>>56279369
Your right, I was doing the multiples of the amount borrowed, not the purchase price. Doing it based on the amount borrowed, better demonstrates the banks return, and what a person is getting into. The good thing that is ignored here. Is that through inflation, your home will be worth more than what you paid for it (30 years later). And that massive payment, if you can swing it when you buy the house, will be less painful in 10-15 years when you are making more money (again through inflation (wage this time)).

>>56279399
>>56279409
this is what bond intervention looks like (the past ones that failed)
now go look at what happened last night after 30yr touched 5%

>>56279435
Looks like normal market movement to me. Just people taking profit after round number has been reached.

>>56279411
remember 4200 is forever

I will never sell my oil, oil hands bros, the hedgies are shorting us with synthetic barrels.

>>56279435
good catch, not the same shape perhaps but the same critical points at the same timestamps

>>56279459
Do you actually own the barrels of oil or are you trading CFDs?

>>56278485
>tina
Who's she

>>56279448
That's fine. I'll buy fewer shares at 4600, and more shares at 3800. And if we ever see 5,000. We will, someday. It will be a good day.

Sold my VIX puts yesterday, it’s gonna melt up isnt it bros…

>>56279466
There Is No Alternative

>>56279454
Witness bagholder being born

Who is ready to donate their money today?

Wtf are those ADP numbers? LMAO

>>56278761
No

TOTAL
BOBO
BEHEEMING

>>56279488
>ADP Non-Farm Employment Change

literally who cares

>>56279445
You are a glownigger

>>56279488
I guess bad news is still good news.

>>56279488
bad news is still good, so we are still fighting the fed

And just like that another generation of inflation adjusted oil bagholders is made

>>56279435
https://www.forexlive.com/news/adp-us-september-employment-89k-vs-153k-expected-20231004/
>ADP US September employment +89K vs +153K expected
>This was the worst reading since January 2022. It's putting downward pressure on yields and the US dollar.
we should see a little relief today in yields, due to the intervention + ADP data
if bonds reversed and yields went higher today, in spite of this super weak ADP, we're in for some serious shit
we ***should*** be getting relief rally
however any rally is being sold into - we'll see..

I'm a big gay bear but I bought 3 spy calls yesterday in hopes of a bounce.

>>56279523
Imagine seeing WTI at $95 and not selling your barrels. Buy low, sell high, don't hold when it's high because you think it might go even higher.

why is bitcoin crabbing while stocks are going down

>>56279560
Wake in Fright is a terrible movie to show someone who wants to go to Australia unless you want to scare them away.

Bad Boy Bubby is the real gem.

>>56279560
Ppl doing muh hodl meme because of etf and halving hope, it'll go down soon enough

>>56279290
Yea I’m not doing the 3% rule. My Roth will be providing tax free dividends in my retirement. My taxable brokerage in VOO and wife’s IRA will cover the rest. I don’t plan on ever withdrawling anything from my Roth other than dividends

>>56279531
I disagree, Grandma Yellen is going to need to raise more revenue since there's less people paying taxes now. More bonds = higher yields :: no speaker = no spending cuts

>>56279582
When is the start or end of the next big jew holiday? I asked my fidelity advisor but he hung up on me.

>>56279580
That's not at all what you said 90 minutes ago.
And for a 30 year withdrawal it's the 4% rule.
If we're lucky, there'll be some monthly social security cash too.

>>56279614
He should be more tolerant.

>>56279616
>It feels really good that my financial future in retirement is secure just from maxing out my Roth IRA with good, dividend paying companies. My wife’s 401K is just a cherry on top
I didn’t specify taking dividends but that’s what I meant. It’s just going to be a tax free distributor on top of the 401k and taxable brokerage.

holy shit buyin calls yesterday might have been the right call

just a relief rally

>>56279642
>my financial future in retirement is secure just from maxing out my Roth IRA
Yeah, you add in a 401,and a taxable account and you got it made in the shade! A Roth is a great vehicle, even with all the bad press it's gotten lately. It has an amazing amount of flexibility.
https://lifeandmyfinances.com/investing/why-roth-ira-is-bad

>>56279523
But inflationadjusted it is cheap? So it could go higher? That's an argument I regularly read here especially with
>inflationadjusted

Fuck me, all my puts are worthless at 9:30 am. Why the FUCK are we pumping with a dead Congress?

I hate MM's so goddamn much

>Futures

>>56279647
Assuming you close them for profit today and then buy puts, yes it was the right call

>>56279680
Relief rally. Get some more puts with Oct 13 or 20 expiry

>>56279676
Can’t beat the tax free withdraws.

>>56279680
Holding options overnight is really hard

>>56279702
Be cautious, if you pen it in with collateral then they have you marked. They can just have the yellen say something retarded that non-figgers couldn't verify if they wanted to and kick the can down the road to another expiry.

KO under 55. What an upportunity to SLURP some KO

>there were redditors in /smg/ who actually thought the economy was healthy and not fake and gay manipulated entirely to try and save Brandon’s ‘24 election run
>there are Redditors ITT right now who think this is the bottom
lyl

>>56279709
And it can (shouldn't) be used as an emergency fund. You can take out everything that you have contributed tax and penalty free, anytime. Every rule about distributions are on the gains. Have you come up with a total amount you want saved before you retire?

Sell every rally

Oversold conditions can stay in oversold conditions

Reminder
If youre 40 and up and still posting on 4chan you're a fucking loser and deserve to be alone

>>56279743
> Have you come up with a total amount you want saved before you retire?
As far as the Roth goes I haven’t. I’m just going to max it out, but good companies with a history of increasing dividends, and set to DRIP. Also plan on selling very conservative calls and reinvesting the premium

So who else holds TLRY?

oh good i still have some time before the market opens

>DXY down
>10Y yield down
>Oil down
yep, thats the plunge protection team at work

GNL

>>56279789
still got puts on it, but we'll see how the market does today

>>56279778
This website is older than you kid, sit down.

>>56279778
what if you're 40 and married and debt-free a millionaire and you told everyone here about both oil and uranium in early 2021?
then what do you do?

>>56279778
Well. My girlfriend lives with me, and has for 5 years. I'm a DM in my company, have a good relationship with my family, and have a few friends (okay one close friend and some good acquaintances). But I appreciate your concern.
>>56279804
KEK!

Lmao good morning bears, that's so weird! I thought it was supposed to be blood red today, going by the infinite doomer fud last night. Lmao fuck you faggots.

>>56279778
I can do what I want at whatever age.

Stay mad dumb nigger

>>56279816
I suddenly have a greater appreciation for AI.

>>56279811
You still are on 4chan. No one’s coming up ahead on this

>>56279804
>>56279811
>>56279813
>>56279816
Kill yourselves old fucks

>>56279814
Nah most bears sold yesterday and bought relief calls.

>>56279828
Bells about to ring junior, pay attention to English teacher. I heard a pop quiz on Romeo ne Juliet is coming today

>>56279816
AI can do this? So that's why MSFT pumped so hard. And now I'm going to pump hard. If you know what I'm saying.

It's that fag with the same spitting image that you see each and every day

>>56279835
Yes

>>56279789

in it for the long haul. just gonna keep averaging down and live off weekly calls in 5 years

>>56279776
Why not buy when things are oversold?

>>56279811
I say lower your tone, pathetic 7 digit pleb larper

>>56279847
>passive aggressively begging for proof
lmao

>>56279488
>ADP Non-Farm Employment Change
But there are millions of jobbies available they said yesterday.

And here I am in mid 6 figure hell. Gonna be here for a while.

>>56279778
I've got two problems with this post. First how can I be reminded of something that was never brought to my attention in the first place. The second thing is I think you should shut the fuck up and let people live their lives however they want.

>>56279861
5-figure hell here, may as well look for a job

>>56279861
I have never even seen six figures in one row.

>>56279826
you must be the opposite of me, I got 30 puts for 2 dollars

I think MARA looks pretty slurpable right about now. The worst seems to be over.

tradingview is shitting on basic free plan

>tfw been stuck in 7 figure hell for 2 years now

>>56279883
You have been saying this for weeks anon.

Does anyone else jerk off a few minutes before the bell?
Thinking it might help me keep a clear head.

>>56279939
thats bad luck anon, plus it clouds the mind with coomer thoughts.

>>56279939
blow your load on the dji 20y and post results

>>56279944
Could you imagine how much more persuasive Greta would be with big breast implants? This is all I can think about atm

Yields are healing...higher

Here.
We.
Go.

>>56279957
They're red now retard Bobo

*BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG

WTFWT

it's going to dump so hard

>>56279962
yikes

bull run is cancelled

>>56279962
>:08
IT'S OVER

Good luck, anons.

>>56279962
llatest bangbang ever

>>56279962
Jesus

FUCKING CAPTCHA

>>56279978

Bearish sign

>>56279962
>30:08

IM UP 500 BUCKS ON MY BEAR
OIL ETF

all in in KOLD
god speed

>>56279978
have you considered that you are not human enough?

>>56279988
check'em

>>56280000
checked

can this shit break 200ma so i can move to tbills already

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

OIL?

OIL! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

>>56280012
tough luck anon

letsfuckingooo

oil baggies

I guess it's safe to say that we have seen the bottom for Q4

CMON Powel, you can do it. save us

bond mumus up bigly with 1.2%. What will do with all that money some day ?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Wow I'm sure glad there was a massive and totally organic push to purchase US treasuries starting late last night before the yield on the 10-year got above 4.9%! Thank goodness the financial system isn't entirely FAKE and GAY.
>t seething bobo

>>56280066
You are aiming for the stock to rally 66%to 3.50$ in 9 days ?

Those $358 QQQ butterfly spreads from yesterday that exp today are paying quite well so far

Plunge protection niggers, what the fuck was that weak shit? I thought jews knew how to buy! Get it together!

If I want to buy RIO should I buy it from LSE or NYSE exchange?.
I just don't get dual-listed companies and why does it have different divi yield between exchanges.

>>56280067
Yeah, I'm buying TLT and TMF, as well :)

is it over or are we back, I can't really tell

>>56280075
I made 200% on hedges today. Joseph Gentile himself must be playing MM today.

>>56280086
we are back to being so over

or you could say, we are so over it being back

>the fake and gay rally can't even last 15 minutes

>>56280066
puts was definitely the play here bruh.

>>56280095
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>I’m just gonna hold

>>56280094
I'm so glad because I had calls that I immediately switched into puts lmao.

They may bounce around 421.7x they may spread some yelletard idiom around that time for bounce and bear fucking. Take care here.

SOXL puts expiring next Friday.

Oh hey I'm up $10!

> green

AAAAAAAAAAA FUCKING FUCK BOBOS LIED TO ME AAAAAAAAAAA I WILL NEVER LISTEN TO YOU YOU FUCKERS

>SPY price on think or swim app: 422.65
>SPY price on think or swim desktop: 422.55

WHICH IS IT

>>56280091
Nice, what kind of hedges?

>>56280143
It's all made up. There's no such thing as a "price" numerically.

>$JEPI's prospectus compares performance vs the Russel 2000
Yeah that's definitely the benchmark that people are thinking of. What disingenuous fucker wrote this doc? Nobody who cares enough to read the prospectus is also dumb enough to say "Oh goodie, I'm beating the Russel 2000!"

>>56280145
I picked some 420 10/4 calls yesterday at some point. I am almost out on that leg just holding a couple for a genuine hedge. Too much free money on all this volatility to pass up

>trading sideways
>breakout to upside
>hits previous high and immediately stops moving
>big selloff after double top
>starts reversing extremely hard after 3 solid red bars
Man I love these high impact news events that cause this retardation every single day

Wheatbros... I got too cocky...

HERE COMES ISM PMI NEWS

PREPARE TO SELL

>>56280141
You have to be able to switch sides alot if you are doing short term trading, don't worry, Bobo will be gloating again before you know it

>every move in any direction is reversed in the same bar

WFC IV continues to rise with volatility rather than come together. Are people being overly bearish?

*flick*

>>56280190
Based. Men what we want is Total banker death. Heem us all to hell if need be. Pyrrhic flavored if need be

WTF WAS THAT

>>56280192

ITS DUMPING

>>56280209
*crabbing

The big question is whether we finally left the bull bias and start pricing lower PE (so new valuation) or if we still hope for rate cut soon

sorry guys, i bought puts on SPY again. i was the straw that broke the camel's back

>>56280179

THANK ME LATER NIGGERS

>>56280215

We will know appropriate action is taken when monies move out of stocks and into bonds. Hypercrab in an uncomfortable range until we've thought about what we have done.

>>56280222
Checked, and I'll thank you now.

>futes were green but now we are barely crabbing
We are fucked

JUST PICK A FUCKING DIRECTION AND MOVE HOLY GOD DAMN FUCK STOP FUCKING WHIP SAWING

Wow
even with their multiple interventions, they cannot stop the bond selling

>>56280241
No

>>56280217
You just had to tip the scale, didn't you? You couldn't just wait a couple hours? MUMUs are going to file a class action lawsuit against you if you keep this up anon

>long
>whip sawed
>short
>whip sawed

>>56280238
>Palestinian Persecuting Team with that micropeen energy

>>56280241
This, jesus fucking christ. Retail faggots are the jumpiest speculators and Big Money just can't help but sell them puts on every fucking headline. Billions of dollars sloshing around on fraction-of-a-percent data readings and sometimes literally nothing. Trash market.

haha number go down

>>56280145
I play almost only spreads or wheel shit. Just date expirys with w/e sentiment or bias I have.

>yields spiking

Oilfags getting fucking heemed today

>>56280258
>haha number go down
NOW I'M SH SH SHAKIN!!!!!!!!
SHSH SHAKE IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!
>>56280267
>Oilfags getting fucking heemed today
Oil topped...

SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL

>>56280263
Do you use any unique stocks for the wheel or just indix ETFs? I've done the wheel on some weird shit myself

>>56278501
Glowie controlled market

Why is it going up now? What a bunch of retarded faggots

GAP filled, send it back to 4300

funny how we can’t even hold a +0.25 bump

same as 2022

lower for longer

russel getting fugd

I'm going to fucking kill someone

alright, i closed my puts for a $500 profit. relief rally can resume

>>56279854
>But there are millions of jobbies available they said yesterday.
Well yeah, all these guys on strike are creating openings.

>>56280267
I was telling some oil fag it topped yesterday and he was saying 200ppb soon kek

>It's another boomer DOW drags us to the depths of hell on the fear of more bank failure episode

Hurray....

Jews can chop away all they want. My butterflies are vega, theta, and completely chop proof is all

What the fuck happened to bonds being inverse with the market? If people are selling bonds and pushing yields up, where's the money going? For years when bonds went down the market went up

>>56280309
Russel will keep getting fuged as long as we haven't reached the final rate

>>56280348
DXY

>>56280348
into cash. watch DXY dude

>>56280348
The money is being destroyed, anon.

>>56280348
it means they're jumping off the ride anon. neither stocks nor bonds but straight into cash. its over

Easiest 10 bucks of my life
Keep it crabbin' will load up another short when it's above 357

Why do jews love chopping the market so much?

time to slurp PYPL? it has been holding pretty well

>>56280358
I'm in Cash. Should I do sgov or just pull out and go straight to treasurydirect?

>>56280348
This is China unloading billions of treasuries. China dumping the dollar is not good economic news

>>56280358
>>56280355
>>56280363
No one with a fucking brain is holding cash right now, come on

>>56280348
It's probably going into t-bills why carry the time risk of a 30Y bond that has a lower interest rate than a 1Y bill.

>>56280370
...selling treasuries strengthens the dollar though

>>56280372
then what ARE they holding, einstein?

>>56280348
>>56279814
lmao dumb fucking retard

>>56280378
Romanian leu

>>56280348
Foreign central banks are trying to keep their currencies propped up, specifically Japan and China. They're cashing out treasuries in an attempt to defend the Yen and Yuan. Japan doesn't want USD to surpass 150, and China tries to keep USD pegged around 7

>>56280375
...I didn't say it didn't...strengthening the dollar is not good for equities.......

>>56280366
It's just a newer version of clipping a little bit off of each coin they touch, just a high tech modern version of coin clipping

>>56280378
Oh I dunno maybe we should look at short interest

>>56280382
I'm green today, u jelly?

>>56280378
Rubles

>>56280388
not for long you aren't

what? no bullrun today?

>>56280375
How does this work?

>>56280397
that was it.

I have a secret...

I wont say

I have a secret

>It's that your GAY!

>>56280397
Nope, my puts are printing.

>>56280366
even MMs don't know what to do at this point

>>56280378
Wheat futures obviously

>>56280416
What does that yellow triangle exclamation point symbol next to buying power mean?

>>56280375
>sell treasuries
>get USD
>use USD to buy Yen or Yuan
>artificially weaken USD against Yen and Yuan
>buy Japanese or Chinese bonds with Yen or Yuan

But of course then you have a bunch of useless old US bonds on the market that no one wants, sending the 10 year into a death spiral

>>56280420
Of course they do, they're baiting retail into going short before they reverse course. Just like last year.

>>56280430
I'm using margin so Robinhood thinks my position is high risk for good reason.

what are the chances oil goes down more

Someone bake

>>56280438
Okay so the consensus seems to be that these moves in bonds are from direct manipulation from foreign countries, not necessarily because people are expecting the end of the world

>>56280451
High

>>56280457
Whatever helps you sleep at night bagholder.

>>56280453

>>56280366
Its (the thing elluding you) also something the indians loved so andrew jackson would probably hate its practice.

VOO will be under 350 usd this time next year. Redditard bulls are going to get wrecked so fucking hard.

>>56280443
Well, it's better then it saying brokerage account deficit

Funny noone is uranium posting anymore
I wonder why...

>>56280480
They out of bags brother.

>>56280462
I mean, that's very clearly what's going on. Maybe Japan isn't trying to do something nefarious but only a retard would think China doesn't have ulterior motives.

>>56280372
Well, the charts are saying otherwise
>PM down
>commodities down
>everything's down except vol and cash
I'm all cash because there's too much risk of a new stock valuation based on higher for longer (finally hitting the neurons of """forward looking markets""")

bummer i was really hoping for a solid 1% rally

>Energy heemed as we head into winter

Money?

my soxl green?

https://youtu.be/atxUuldUcfI?si=mjQD-sF4IhGiNgwg&t=37

>>56280505
There's still plenty of time

>>56280459

>>56280505
You might get a solid 2% if you ask nicely

>>56280500
markets are full of hopeium. Higher for longer + Risk of housing pop at any moment. is not priced into the current market yields

someone didnt bake and now nasdaq is pumping

Double top or M-shaped recovery?

>>56280499
The thing is the why doesn't matter here it could be because the BOJ started smoking crack. The material result is the same with a soaring 10Y.

>>56280557

>>56280549
Just don't let it pump too much, $358 is my magic number today

>>56280378
Super Nintendo cartridges.

>Disney down to $79

Come on I want under $75 by eoy.

>>56280385
That's a little silly. Japan could use some inflation desu.

>>56280634

Oil? More like SHIT. Hahahaha

what happened to oil inventory

Sorry I'm late guys. What did I mess? Any Bulls show up?

DRV GO BBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

You guys see it right ?

>>56280407
>>56280407
>>56280407
Next.

Get on my level

>>56280692

>>56280678
Only some Nasdaq bulls, but even they are few and far between and a bit skiddish

>>56280676
Nobody cares really about physical oil. Like silver there is plenty in the ground.

>>56280696
just wait till it goes down even further lol, thinking you timed it

>>56280692
Lol

>>56280732
>>56280732
>>56280732>>56280732
>>56280732
>>56280732
new thread you lazy fuking nigg3rs

>>56280696
Nice, very nice

US indices are doing okay, but why the fuck is the ftse shitting the bed

>>56280751
Because it's shit