/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56266851
I agree with you that fiat is worthless, I'd love to put like 75% of my savings into metal. I don't trust cypto or the stock market. I'm just terrified that the guys at the top will do something to fuck over metalchads.
I just don't know whether I should pull the trigger in the next hour or wait until tomorrow.

>>56266892
Do what I do: Spend what you can set on fire without going broke for now. Think lottery and beer money.

>>56266925
I'm considering buying $5000 worth, a fifth of my savings, a month's work.

Me? I bought a 2024 Britannia and a 2023 Philharmoniker, in Gold.
2oz more in the sack.
Maybe the prices will drop, maybe they will rise, but i will likely do the same next month :-)

Any idea what are those silver hallmarks?
Never seen those, i'm thinking maybe a swiss canton, early XIXth c. ?

Old coins found in church spire
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/researchers-find-worlds-oldest-time-capsule-1726-bulb-church-spire-heres-whats-inside
Any interesting ones?

>>56267028
You don't have to spent it all on the same day. I bought this weekend, 561 euros from one place, 837 from another.

>>56267116
>Any interesting ones?
Not really, seems like they simply threw in the capsule whatever change they had in their pockets.

Tomorrow I'm going to grab a 1oz Britannia, should I grab the lizzie, chuck, or chuck with crown (Coronation)?

>>56267213
>You don't have to spent it all on the same day
A myth, perpetrated by left wing pinkos to cripple the free markets.

>>56267337
Coronation costs 350 to 400€ more here. I bought one chuck and lizzie in gold and 25 each in silver.

I buy my gold at Amazon, as it's cheaper.
Here Xuehui sells 9999 fine ggld for less than 17€. What a nice guy!

>>56267418
Jesus Christ, how horrifying.

>>56267425
100 PPUNDS!
I suspect these where test coins, to see how close they can get to the genuine article.

>>56267410
Not the actual coronation coin, all 3 have the standard 23 Britannia but the only difference is Charles has a crown

>>56267497
I know. These are the regular '23 ones i have.
If the coronation coin is the same price for you, get it, and tell me where, maybe they send to Yuropooristan.

>>56267028
I'm no expert, but fomo on anything is never a good idea... You'll just get soured on stacking if it dips deeper than your major buy in point. The cities aren't burning just yet... Now if it goes to 14 again...

>>56267104
desperation bump, can't find anything on my side. Can't even tell for sure if the second line says "sozs", "sols", "5oz s", "50zs",..

>>56267526
https://www.abcbullion.com.au/store/gold/gbritc01cor1oz-the-royal-mint-coronation-britannia-coin-9999

https://www.abcbullion.com.au/store/gcoroc011oz-the-royal-mint-coronation-of-his-majesty-king-charles-iii-coin

>>56267555
They've got the 3 different portraits in silver too

>>56267555
Cheers, but getting it to Germany would blow it up to the prices we have here.
Doesn't matter, i just get regular coins and don't mind it.

Soon

>bought more silber
I fucked up. This shit is going nowhere in the next 20 years

>>56268533
>This shit is going nowhere in the next 20 years
Cringe and wrong opinion.

>>56268551
Look at the past 20 years, friend

>>56268564
Yes. The last 20 years didn’t include inflation at this rate, negros getting gibs, digital currencies, shitskin invasions, attempted bans on guns, push for communism, kids getting their cocks chopped off, and overall faggotry. We’re closer to societal and fiat meltdown than ever before, you retarded niggerfaggot.

>>56267104
>>56267544
What makes you think it's Swiss? Been looking a little myself with no luck

>>56268533
A) if you feel that way why did you buy more?
B) hasn't its price permanently jumped since 2000s, being more valuable than it was?

>>56268633
Baggie's gambit
Zoom out further
>>56268601
schizo drivel

>>56266866
>Taco Tuesday Edition
Taco taco

acwxNsOj

>>56268564
>20 years
Zoom out... 20 years from now silver will be in the 3 figures. Screencap this.

>>56268551
>>56268601
>>56268803
don't respond to obvious trolls

>>56268653
I might have a different mindset as it feels more like coin collecting to me than some gambit while zooming out up to 1920s still shows some permanent bump to me

>>56268533
All precious metals are going to suffer with deficits in the next few decades. There is no wealth to be made going short with them right now.

>>56268858
That’s fine.
>the long slurp through the bullion dealers
It has begun…

I bought a tube of ASEs at 21.06 spot last night
would be neat if I scooped the bottom

>>56266892
>I'm just terrified that the guys at the top will do something to fuck over metalchads.
What could they do to fuck us over?
Whether silver is $1 or $1000 an ounce, my physical stash is still where it is and hasn't shrank in material at all.

>>56268633
>What makes you think it's Swiss?
Nothing peculiar, but i've few swiss pieces from around this period and hallmarks are a real mess, they changed from towns to towns, and it's hard to find a coherent synthesis of marks from there until they adopted a normalization standard during the XXth c. . Moreover from my experience they liked very simple design on silver pieces, like the uniplat style.
Also last hint, the seller isn't living too far from Switzerland.

Those are just few clues, but it could very well be from the other side of the world for all i know.

>>56269007
Appreciate those informative tidbits, never got into Sterling silver so I'm rather ignorant about all them initials, symbols and overall history of it; still looking up symbols in hopes of stumbling onto those in the pic though.

All the sellers much be really backed up. Not even my order from Friday is shipped yet

>>56269138
Thanks for your help fren, it's appreciated.

>>56269205
mine did

>>56269259
mine did too
here's a tip to all new stackers: walmart

>>56266866
Good to see that I fucked up most of the embeds, oops.
>>56269205
my eBay went from arriving Wednesday to getting here Friday

>>56266866
What’s a good price for $5 face value of merc dimes?

>>56268533
Trust the banks! Trust the government! They would never do anything to undermine the value of your fiat money. American industry is strong as a bull so buy stock. Real estate is worth every penny. Just get a 50 year mortgage. And have you seen the new memecoin? It's so clever! It's based on a cute dog! 100x for sure.

>>56269669
Realistically around $80 for the actual silver content but they slap dumb premiums on them.

>>56269259
that fucking bing AI is completly pozzeld
I can't make a BEST KOREA memecoin.
Best Führer's name is a forbidden word.
Cant make a 'dementia awareness' coin with Joe Bidens face either kek

>>56269691
please show me where i can buy merc dimes for 16x face value

>>56269669
about a harem of 1000 women

>>56269698
you gotta word it cleverly to by-pass filters

>>56269688
based fiat pilled
US Donkey dollars strong!
Another American century!
everything is fine
this is all perfectly normal
there is no cause for alarm

>>56269698
i think you just need to play with it some more. it has some built in rails that you have to try and find workarounds for. if it won't accpet a text prompt, it will accept a url to an image of what you want it to use. you can just break the creation prompt up into a bunch of different images to the things it won't take words for

>>56266866
Bought a 10oz Engel and $5 in mercs.

In mercs we trust

GOD i hate the fucking federal reserve

>>56269848
>>56269748
will try, thx fren

>>56269433
They charge tax now. I used to get my 9fine products at a discount through them,

>>56269706
I’m ordering at 19x face right now, please link before I buy from MM

Have one of these?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115930097302?hash=item1afdf8e696%3Ag%3ACQ0AAOSwXaFlGY8r&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwO444fGExawZ%2FV7d3xq%2BrLMR3xgBLK1C27GNLUU4o1w88nFr8CylYm7rsgTFwOast60V2xPdgc3mYczBP%2BiVUu8TnftXOgSypiSZ%2Fz6ZA7NfPmDFQ7b%2FI%2BX6lwKwnEnHV7Rnr4rucRJq%2B3vRxeqw%2B5nYHdH%2F%2BOO%2FMyT888sHwo6WCt5kAQxsP2XZ1xdXgvnvWs%2FFcBcH%2BNlxHkuLu%2FPjNyxYEpHDXF8Lf5abwG0S4ylaQTE8dZw892sBgnbzBe3c%2Fg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5a2ruLeYg&LH_Auction=1

who loves ya??

>>56269706
My lcs has em for $16.60 per face. Check there if you have one.

>>56266866
Bros, all that I want is $1,500 American 1 ounce Gold Eagles in 2024

>>56266866
Taco Tuesday, you say?

>>56269691
Sooo 75$ for $5 face value is a good deal then? It’s at my LCS

>>56270358
Yes, get it if you want it

>>56270149
Nice. Very nice. If envy weren’t sin I’d be envious.

What’re the odds that leaf bucks are completely worthless in the next 6-8months?

>>56270149
nice

What is the fallout from 4chan not getting any AD revenue?

Interested finally dipping a toe in roman coinage. I saw this auction with beautiful coins ending soon. What would be a good price for it considering the condition?

>>56270687
>Denier Gordien III
>Salonine Antoninien
>Antoninien Postume (x2?)

Just picked up the first official Irish Bullion Silver Round Lads.

>>56270734

>>56270734
>>56270744
Right in time for the financial collapse! The reverse kinda looks like shit sadly.

>>56270407
>>56270500
Thanks.
I don't know any more if I stack for my future or to just post pics on the internet....

I'll take the over on leaf bux being "completely worthless" eight months. "practically worthless"??? I dunno....

>>56270776
>The reverse kinda looks like shit sadly.
I agree, should have just had the Harp taking up that whole side of the coin.

>>56270797
I thought the exact same, it looks too busy and quite lazy here. As if it was ctrl+P on paint in 20sec.

>>56270851
Its a new Irish Company and its their first coin design so they'll probably come up with something better for the next design, Its the first coin and they are using the Geiger Mint to make them so i had to get it.

>>56268984
They could release sulfur compounds using chemtrails, causing premature tarnishing.
Don't underestimate "them"!

Looks like the dip is over anons, they couldn't keep the price down forever

>>56267028
Just buy a little at a time. Maybe drop $1000 for your first purchase if you want to start hefty then just buy 10-20oz every week or so

>>56270734
>>56270744
that don't look too good
i'd buy for the price of a buffalo round kek

>>56270791
I do it for both reasons. Shinies feel good in the hand. But it’s nice to know if everything went south I could liquidate my pms and bounce back.

I’m real nervous my leaf bucks are going to be devalued into nothing…

>>56271064
Why is gold jewelry valuable?

>>56271373
Read the natural order of money. It’s scarce. It’s impossible to defraud/fake. Because of these qualities you can reliably trade and transact in these metals.

>>56266892
>I don't trust cypto
trustless protocol

>>56271064
demand for gold (money) is orders of magnitude larger than for gold (jewelry)
this meme was done by a fiatcel on reddit

>be me
>just boughteded agained
>mfw I used my credit card to buy 16 2023 30g silver pandas, direct from Hong Kong, China
>inb4 hoes mad and assorted kvetching

>>56271574
so no trust, got it

I got my second wooden nickel over the weekend.
AIGMI?

>>56271801

Lmao.

>>56271801
lul

>>56266866
I want a 22k Gold franco chain. Wearable gold seems neat just as an addition to my stack. Any advice? My grandfather wore one and stacked as well. thats what got me into precious metals

crypto nerds will seethe

>>56270930
i love tarnish tho

>>56267104
I poked around but couldn't find anything definitive. One hunch is that if the 2 repeated stamps say "*** SOLS" maybe it refers to a tax or duty paid (in Sols per piece or by weight?) by silversmiths or people who imported silver? It looks like good old European silver to me so if a cheapie you should get it and continue researching at your leisure.

>>56270687
Those are all pretty appealing condition "Antoninianus" double denarius coins, nothing amazing but easily worth $10-20 each retail.

>>56271801
this destroys the crypto nerd

>>56272233
>i love tarnish tho

Checked, hold my beer fren.

Think about it like this. If you bought before this biggest dip, it’s like you’re paying what apmex is charging today. Lmao.

>>56272315
>paying what apmex is charging

Kek, I'm neither a boomer nor a personal-finance masochist so I guess I'll never know that feel.

>>56272234
It's ok fren, i appreciate you gave it a try. Nothing on my end either sadly.
>if a cheapie you should get it and continue researching at your leisure
As i really wasn't too sure (and on a limited budget), i max bid only 50 bux to be sure i wouldn't regret being wrong, and it ended up selling for 56€. The buyer will be very happy i believe, since it's weighting 193g!

>>56272234
>nothing amazing but easily worth $10-20 each retail
Once again i didn't want to go too high as a total newb on roman coinage, so i max bid 40, and it sold for 41€ kek. Less regrets than for the mystery ladle, lots of roman coins are a very common occurence over here, so i'll eventually score something nice i'll be proud to show you!

I don’t care if silver dipped after I bought mine last week, I can’t hear it over the clinking sound of my PAMP Suisse bars that arrived today. My miniature dragon hoard grows. I feel accomplished somehow.

>>56272507
holy based.
im the same
if silver was 100 per 1 oz i would still buy

the thing about stackin' is that its never enough anon, the hoard must continue to grow in shiny

>>56272507
this.
silver price is an abstraction that means nothing to me, except if it's low it's an opportunity to buy more. regretting i bought silver at some point in the past where price was higher, does not compute. all that matters is the silver i have now

anyone else have valuable coins that aren't really PM? I found this coin in my mom's purse when I was a kid, it's what started my appreciation for coin collecting. Last I checked it was selling around $200

>>56272553
>Last I checked it was selling around $200
Meme rel immediately came to mind

What do I with all my gold and silver when I die if I have no family or kids?

I finally surpassed 200 oz

>>56272553
>Last I checked it was selling around $200

>>56272588
You go with them in the realm of the deads, pharaoh style.
Make yourself a silver & gold sarcophagus written -10,000 BC all over it and cadaver larp as an atlantean king to troll future archeologists. You'll most likely end up in a prestigious museum in good company.

>>56272588
pass it on to the most close bloodline if you can anon, like a cousin or something, if you can't do that, a really good friend who shares the same interests / like minded with silver and gold, and give him a blessing for his family and children.

i dunno if this is a bad move, just what i would do if i don't plan on having children, but i want to make a family and make generational wealth anon

Can someone explain why silver is worth money when it smells like bloody eggs if it touches air

>>56272588
You distribute it out to all your /pmg/ bros

Picked these up at my lcs for $25 each

>>56272588
>What do I with all my gold and silver when I die if I have no family or kids?
Your digits tell you everything you need to know, nigger.

>>56272664

>>56272647
Pussies smell bad too and it's the most valuable commodity since humans are a thing so...

>>56272664
nice, does it pass the egg smell test

>>56272631
what coin is this?

>>56272538
>>56272539
It truly is “set it and forget it” with my stack. It’s safe and comfy tucked away to remind me that if the world went to shit, I at least have some wealth divided into universally accepted value. I remember it’s not an investment, it’s a store of wealth. And I really like the PAMP suisse and American Reserve bars. The future goal is to one day have a gold coin or two.

>>56272683
Yes, it smells beautiful

>>56272585
why? it's valued because it's an error coin not for age

Was at the LCS earlier and it was full of boomers panic selling everything they had. Very sad.

>>56272773
>panic sellers
>boomers

checks out, just slurp all their metals

>>56272773
sounds great
boomers should be distributing their wealth more

hypothetically speaking, lets say a newfag bought a 100 bar and 100 single ounces of generic chiefs and samurai silver as it was most cost effective at the time. would it have been better to have gone all in on gubmint birds and should that retard focus on getting birds from here on out

>>56272884
rounds, bars, coins, it's all good
definitely get some eagles though, i love that they don't have ridiculously high premiums now

>>56272194
you were late, again.
try to be on time from now on, please.

>>56272892
cool, being a double pirate is nice but i must reach ever higher tiers

>>56272763
Because the same error coin here would be worth 10€.

>>56272685
Arethusa decadrachm of Syracuse

>>56273048
yeah the European selection is crazy desu
I want to get more francs and sovs since they'll be older and have less premiums than any American gold I'd get

>>56268533
The metals play was always going to be a head-fake right up until it isn't. You are either early and not a second too late will be good enough.
Precious metals are a political commodity and its price is tightly controlled for a reason.
Think about the value density of a useful commodity that does not spoil. If you do not wish to store your money in cash, banks, or overleveraged equities then where do you go? If you could buy up oil/gasoline it could be nice although it will eventually go bad. Same with any foodstuff. THE ONLY escape from the all-encompassing international ponzi is precious metals. The dirty little secret, the nuclear waste, is the buildup of the bond market. We now have trillions upon trillions of debts that backstop it all, and it is our continuing contributions in storing money in banks, wallstreet, and insurance that keeps the momentum necessary to kick the can. When the thing finally dies you will find that all you own will be the debts. All of the good value has been stolen and now all that can be done is passing around toxic notes.

>>56273155
>yeah the European selection is crazy desu
And we are so much poorer it's not even funny kek. So the market have to adapt to our limited means. Which is worrysome, as we remain poors, ameribros -and increasingly chinks and poos now- are slurping all our historic artifacts for cheap. That's what happen when you don't produce anything of value anymore : you have to sell the heirlooms eventually to pay for the bills.

I can't blame foreigners for doing so, those are free markets dynamics, but it still sadden me a bit. At least it's ending in the hands of ppl who can appreciate those items for their real value. Treat your gold coq nicely my fren, as it once was from a great empire, instead of the crippled, boomoid-niggerified, talmudic clownation it is now.

i don't understand everything about monetary systems, the economy, investments, commerce or finance.
but one thing that seems abundantly clear. fiat currency is losing value in a hurry and is a dangerous place to store the value or your labor or assets
All of mankind's history demonstrates that PMs at least are some insurance against this

>>56273259
Yes. Even land is hard to hold onto when things really come unglued.

>>56273416
>Even land is hard to hold onto
Cry me a river.
I have to pay nearly $13k/yr in taxes and insurance on my house. If I don't pay that, I lose the house to the county.

guys i just got the cloudflare captcha message on apmex.com. that must mean their traffic is insane right now

>>56273312
They're mostly slurping restrikes that were made for the american market when they pulled the 1933 fiasco. Those aren't really historical artifacts. I doubt many foreigners are actually buying 19th century or older euro coins, especially not the more expensive ones. The americans are more interested in their own 19th century coins. Otherwise they buy restrikes or pay extra for meme coins like reichmarks because naughty-naughty windmills.

>>56273491
so your telling me they can price out people from land and home ownership via overpriced taxes and insurance? like, they an make it 100k a year?

>>56273416
Correct.
For all we know all of the national forests that have been taken by the government could be used to pay back debts to the banks who could very well know they are sitting on some of the greatest mining rights left on the planet. Finance-legal capitalism is all about theft, and the IMF regularly do shitty things in order to transfer ownership of national resources into their little rat-claws. Nothing new under the sun, and the same shit is taking place here in my opinion.

>>56273259
well said

>>56273491
isn't that exactly what he's talking about except taken to its logical conclusion? the 13k you pay now turns into 50k or some amount you aren't able to pay.

>>56273564
or they can put in a migration welcome center in your fucking town. you never know, land is a good asset but is very unpredictable at times

>>56273564
what are they gonna do, mobilize the zogbots for millions of landowners who suddenly can't pay? i don't think they would have the man power, and they don't want to deal with schizos going out suicide by cop. People would ignore all the notices from the county, government, banks, whatever

>>56273513
They don't have to be so obvious about it and increase the tax by a disproportionate amount. It's enough to just devalue the currency via high sustained inflation (hidden behind fake CPI numbers). Eventually everyone is robbed of their savings, and they're spending every last penny they have on food and bills. And then oops! No money to pay the mortgage and/or land tax.

>>56273591
the millions of landowners who can't afford it will just sell and move
they won't do it all at once; they will slow boil the frog

>>56273513
Or they just fucking TAKE it at gunpoint for, you know, "land reform". It happens again and again.

>>56273591
banks can even call your mortgage early if you're still paying and they get themselves into the type of situation a lot are probably already in.

>>56273580
they're literally doing that across from the neighborhood i grew up in. they've really been running it up that town's ass since covid. going to visit her now is like going into the twilight zone. demographics were changing at a fast pace already, but it looks like they literally just replaced half the town. roads haven't been properly serviced since i was in grade school. this is one of the nicest cities in the nicest county in the state. my mom was a house cleaner. she'd go clean houses that would have elevators in them. place is fucked now, more or less. nicest areas left have just been absolutely flooded. insane traffic in areas where you'd rarely ever see other cars at a 4 way stop.

>>56273591
How about if they just say to the millions of got nothings in the cities: "Free Land! Come and get it!" Even if you can fend of the first few assaults, they can make it unlivable.

Or they starve you off.

Don't get me wrong, I think owning farmable land is a great place to be. But it isn't portable and you can't hide it.

>>56273507
>Otherwise they buy restrikes
For some reason that's as much of a concern for me as getting fake bullion; feels like I'm being fooled and "rug-pulled" if said coins aren't genuine, regardless of composition.

>>56273507
>They're mostly slurping restrikes that were made for the american market when they pulled the 1933 fiasco.
Why would you beleive that? A literal billion of 20F gold coins were minted by the french government, so i dont see the point of doing restrikes from something who already is the most minted gold coin to this day.

And tbf i don't mind much mass produced coins, whatever, millions of them are around.., it's more about unique pieces. I recently watched few vids of Drouot's live auctions in Paris, and toward the end you get the big pieces destined to the fat cats. Stuff like the personal guns of Napoleon, a 400yo painting from a maître who was displayed in the Louvres, an ancient marble statue who used to be in a duke's castle,... Pretty much all those items are being auctionned to ease succession splits in bourgeois families after the pater died.

Then all of a sudden all the "regular" french people who bid over 200 bux items in the room stop breathing and clinging, to be sure the auctioneer don't attribute any accidental move as a bidding sign, and you get a dozen girls in the back of the room, each one on the phone with mutts/chinks billionaires, who start to buzz and enter in a millions USD bidding wars macabre dance.

I've watched maybe a dozen of these auction sessions, and literally every single 200K+ lot auctionned ended up either in China or the US. That's what i'm talking about.

>>56267544
if it says 5 ozs could be the old heavy silver plate per 144 pieces thing

https://goldrefiningforum.com/threads/silver-coating-weight.10807/

>>56273750
lots of people here are paranoid schizos and think fakes are a much bigger problem than they are

>>56273755
Nah i'm 99% it was sterling, our heavy silver plate is always marked in grams and in tiny squares. They often are [84], [91]... sometimes less, sometimes more. And iirc, the number is the grammage for 12 couverts' worth of surface, or 24 pieces (12 spoons + 12 forks).

>>56273863
I hope you've found any luck on the hallmark search fren - had to take care of some things but been unable to find anything myself. Been debating on how to interpret that symbol in the middle, whether it's an initial or poorly imprinted leaf

>>56274002
i think its a leaf or a flower
>>56273863
yes, my mistake looking back on it - the world may never know.

In other unrelated news: decided fuck it and bought 7 more LMU

>>56273855
The real problem with fakes is in numismatics, not bullion. Bullion is hard to fake because its uniqueness is in its atomic structure. With numismatics, the uniqueness is in the form.

>>56273513
>they can price out people from land and home ownership via overpriced taxes and insurance
This is true.
Because of that, there are dispensations under certain conditions to help. Qualifications include being above a certain age or disability or being a veteran, having a maximum income, and owning the home of residence.
I don't know how extensive the relief actually is.
But yes, even a colleague eventually had to sell her small inherited farm because it was too difficult to make the payments. She made bank on the sale, but... no more farm.

>>56273564
>isn't that exactly what he's talking about
Probably, yes. But for me its an ongoing reality - not a theory for some SHTF scenario. I have to keep this up. every year. And hope the value increases by at least that much in order to break even when selling.

>>56274002
>whether it's an initial or poorly imprinted leaf
At first i also thought it was a maple kind of leaf, but upon closer inspection i now believe it was a birb, which is commonly used as silver hallmarks.
I didn't win the auction anyway, so i stopped my investigation.
It's ok though, to comfort myself i just received my lot of 1750's silverware from Louis XV's Versailles set. The finesse and craft is just incredible, truly the masterpieces of my humble tableware collection. I'm gonna eat my lidl crap like a king for real now kek.

>>56272773
haha, fucking dummies...I stopped by the pawn shop, used to be a good place to grab silver for a reasonable price when they had any...they wanted nearly $5 over spot for beat up generic rounds and $10 over spot for ASE...bummed me out, guess I'll just do all my shopping online from now on.

>>56274053
Congrats on the deal fren! Slurped like a pro.

>>56274053
sweet buy

>>56273855
Restrikes aren't fakes. The difference is the restrike is an official reproduction. But either way, the roosters, vrenelis, etc. people are stacking aren't very old or rare coins.
I wouldn't care either way if I got a restrike, so long as premium is low. I'm not in this to buy art objects, that's for the rich.
Anyway so far I've only bought krugerrands.

>>56273591
>what are they gonna do
You should read about the fate of farmers during the Great Dust Bowl of the 1920s.

>>56274297
QRD?

>>56274358
Dought, bad land management, winds sweep dirt away, no crops, no money, great migrations to CA as farmers are ousted from their homes and farms repossessed.
One reason why Bonnie and Clyde were so popular among the peons - everyone hated banks.

>>56274297
>>56274358
>>56274419
And.. typo ... 1930s.

>>56274297
>>56274358
https://youtu.be/h-z5N8H5TaE?si=XpAId3Z8pa3IeVto

>I'm a jolly banker, jolly banker am I

>>56274253
oh well if they're just modern day official coins with the same metal content, then i agree. i wouldn't mind em either

First purchase got the silver at spot and figured it was a good time to buy gold also 5 grams gold and 5 ounces of silver

I have only gotten 1 oz as bars, I'm interested in getting a new oz but as a coin this time (not a boring round)
what would you recommend?

>>56274718
I'm partial to Somali elephants and if I can afford it, the East Caribbean 8.

Stop posting gold while I'm trying to cure my silver FOMO it's causing me pain.

> new coin dealer just got in recently
> it's already out of stock
Ugh, I'm just not quick enough.

>>56274774
What about a more pragmatic approach fren? Seems like 82:1 was the average for the year.

Keep stacking.

>>56274861
>"Think of all the Long Bottom Leaf we can buy with this!"

>>56274858
100:1 is what the meme is but depending on where life takes me I would like a 10:1.

>>56274861
Were the wreckings of the WTC in the background part of your prompt, or did the AI thought it would be a nice touch lol?

>>56266866
live
Andy Schectman: Silver Investors Still Buying On Lower Price
Andy Schectman: Silver Investors Still Buying On Lower Price

Just bought my first oz of Platinum.

>>56274895
oops
i fucked up the link paste

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-nDM5aAhsI

>>56274899
Shit man, lm about to buy another oz at this very moment.
Apmex looks like they have a good sale right now.

>>56274861
>You'll never raid dungeons with your wizard bro for pristine mounds of gold and silver coins minted by a now lost civilization
It hurts

Bros, particularly UK and Royal Mint bros.
I'm currently stacking Britannias, they seem like a good Bullion option for lots of reasons. Tax exempt, purity, renowned, transportable, aesthetic, security features etc.
Are Sovereigns a "lesser" bullion option? Does their 916.67 Fine Gold purity work against them? Will they be harder to shift? I know the coin has a historic standing in our history, but is it worthwhile as bullion investment?

I'm trying not to be a collector of coins or variants, but i do like the horsey and i'm an autist for having a complete set.

>>56274884
who mentioned 100:1 here?
I myself am a partisan of 8:1 since it's the current extraction ratio for over a decade, and close to the native ratio in the earth crust (was 15:1 a century ago, now probably around 10:1 as we now know silver mostly agreggated close to the surface, unlike gold who is more evenly distributed). Not counting more gold than silver now exist in bullion form worldwide.

>>56274926
>tax evasion

Thought you guys might like this I found on /pol/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AynHulTaafk

>>56274756
gorgeous

>>56274942
1oz gold after your first 100oz silver I thought was a fairly common meme here. 10:1 feels just right.
>>56274950
The earl can come and try me.

>>56274955
euros are so fucked its unreal

>>56274955
>2019 : OYVEY STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION DIGITAL IDENTITY WALLETS ARE A CONSPIRACY THEORY GOYIM
>2023 : HERE IS YOUR NEW DIGITAL IDENTITY WALLET GOYIM, LOOK HOW COOL AND TRENDY IT IS, DONT YOU SEE ALL THE NEGROID FEMALES MUTTS WE USED IN OUR AD TO SHOW HOW MODERN AND DIVERSE WE ARE?

>>56274985
yep im glad UK left hah.
>>56275006
imma have nightmares now

>>56274984
Ah there is a misunderstanding then. You were talking about stacking ratio while i was talking about valuation. I'm a proponent of 1000:1 personally.

>>56275029
Oh right, I always associate the two.

I can feel the ominous presence of powerful magicks in the air.
Something big is happening.

>>56275006
>the striking commonality of their physiognomy
>they all resemble bird-like creatures in the face

>>56275060
Then i hope it's more doomping. See how incredibly cozy /pmg/ is when the paid fudders are in vacation during dump events?
This thread is the first one in a very long time with zero D&C nigger, zero fudder, zero tranny jannies mass-banning for no reasons, and zero IQDELET.

It's the best of both worlds : we slurp cheapies and nobody come to poopoo in the general.

>>56274926
Grouchy here says we gotta turn in all the golds we find to the dwarven government. It's the right thing to do!

what kind of nonsense is this? i always thought the ef/bu grading was trying to pass off some crap coins, but ms63 as ef/bu?... can someone explain?

>>56272655
amen, frogposting brother

>>56274935
Sovereigns are built for coin circulation which is why they're 22k gold with a full sovereign being just under a quarter of an ounce of gold. They're popular here in the UK because they're legal tender and thus come with a bunch of benefits. Historically the sovereign has been a popular coin all over the world, but I don't know if it is now seeing as decolonization severed that economic connection. I love them, especially the double sovereigns as I am a numismatic fag, but as for selling sovereigns in regions outside of the UK I wouldn't know a thing or to how liquid they are.

>>56274955
This shit is coming for all of us whether we like it or not. Staking metals is one of the core reasons to be one foot out of this system.

>>56275181
This is why I stack. Globohomo can take my coins from my cold dead hands.

>>56275218
Being dead isn't a good enough reason to give (((them))) your shinies.
Even if i transform into a mummy they wont have my coins. I'd rather throw them in my favorite car batteries spot.

How do you test to see if it’s real silver besides the ring test

>>56275351
magnet test. magnet will move slowly down

>>56271647
>use credit card
>pay it off before interest hits
>use bonus points on card to slurp more
>literally free silver.
It’s that fucking easy.

>>56275448
this is the perfect way to out-jew the jews at the credit game

>>56275448
Using the cringe to obtain the based

>>56270734
>>56270744
Nice. Where?

>>56270734
>>56270744
neat. you pay VAT on silver over there?

>>56275351
Silver isn't worth enough fiat for someone to want to fake right now.

>>56273259
well said anon

>>56266866

>>56275702

which one of you is Dave. I know you're in here.

https://youtu.be/Q-xOL2MYNyw?si=VHoxg_4nJsnTiGNv

>>56275563
>Nice. Where?
https://www.taracoins.com/distributors

>>56275576
Im sure we do altough i dont know or care how much it is, i just stack.

Found some more gold at work, 14g and 18k. Beat to all hell but gold is gold.

>>56269870
I hate them too friend. Just buy some silver, gold, the necessities, and stay sane.
Whom the gods would destroy, they would first make mad.

>>56274899
Checked and based

What did you get?

>>56275351
Just weigh it, takes a lot of work to spoof the weight and it probably isn't worth the effort for $25 worth the silver
Specific gravity test
I think there is a paid app that will analyze the acoustics from the ring test.
$1300 purity scanner

Guys… why is MSM shilling gold?
I’m scared?

>>56276307
This lil nigga right here

>>56276464
Its to cover themselves after everything has collapsed and the currencies are worth nothing.

>Look see we tried to tell you
>We tried to get you to buy Gold

Of course they know the average npc's wont buy it as they have been brainwashed away from metals for decades and will only try to buy when its already too late.

>>56276518
this 100%
somebody link the gold coin or chocolate/silver bar vs chocolate bar videos

>>56276559
That video encompasses the feeling of people living in blissful ignorance. I almost envy them because they’re happy and unaware of it all.

lads we did it
US National Debt went past 33,333,333,333,333 today
Next stop, 100k per citizen
https://www.usdebtclock.org/

>>56276498
wonder why the packaging says Au 999.9 and the bar inside is platnium

>>56276666

>>56275448
>>56275453
>>56275473
Bingo.

>>56272185
gold is gold, i was thinking of getting one too, just remember to never relax when wearing it in public

>>56274718
kruggerrand, go with the standard IMO

do premiums on 1oz gold seem high right now?

>>56276464
Walmart sells it too. They even sell rolls of Asahi and stuff

>>56268533
You fell for the oldest zionist trick in the book
>buy useless rocks goy

PM is literally the original crypto

>>56276609
I think it is more a demonstration of people's fear that some stranger filming them on the street is trying to make a fool of them on the internet. It is meaningless.

>>56275448
>>56275453
Kek. You two having a joke over this put the thought into my head that the credit card is goymancy. We may not have the power to print money, but we can have a taste of stealing from the future for a brief period of time.

>>56276840
Legit concern, but there are enough impractical jokers out there that someone would take the PM.
One thing he never shows, is someone taking the PM - whether for real or just to see what would happen. I cannot believe there is no-one who does. So when it happens, is Mike a jerk and goes back on his promise? That would be shitty.

Candy or Silver or gold
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYhTFz_SGw0 (10 ozt Ag or Hersheys bar)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgUxF7gvYeE (1/10th ozt Au coin or Snickers)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8qGDun4puM (100 ozt)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndshbH3qZ6Y ($50 Au coin for $25?)

>>56276815
>comparing PM’s to literal fake digital “currency”
I’m sleeping soundly tonight with my increased stack of PAMP suisse silver bars ensuring the safety of my wealth, while crypto and NFT retards watch as their make believe money disappears before their eyes. During a power failure, I will have actual valued currency while the fools scream at their computer in vain. Converting a bunch of code around isn’t currency. It’s just a get rich quick scam for fooling zoomers. They can have their internet coins. I prefer the real thing.

>>56275666
plenty of silver fakes circulating around, retard

>>56266866
Don't care bought more junk. 17.3X face value right now is too good to pass up.

holy shit AI image maker is BASED
i can't believe this shit

>>56277016
based

>>56266866
Good video from Andy on why the current metals market is in a depression. He uses the term "dirt cheap" and I think he's right.
https://youtu.be/6UxoXxY1Wkg?feature=shared&t=1210

>>56277016
My lcs had it for $16.60. I slurped all I could buy at the time

>>56277094
I wish I could get to my LCS, he always treats me right. But I travel for work and won't be back in town until Thanksgiving. So while I'm pacing my buys, I'm scooping as much as I can from r/pmsforsale and the JMBullion anniversary deal. I want this box filled before the balloon goes up.

>>56277059
It looks to me more like he's making a point for investing in oil.

>>56266866
for silver memecoin fags
GILDED YOTSUBA
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314867265195
this listing is a bit ambitious but I don't really want to part with it for less and none others are listed.

sitting on:
>~10oz gold
>~200 oz silver
>~$20k in miner stocks
sup /pmg/, haven't posted in a while. I want to keep stacking but I'm annoyed my 401k and stocks in general have been outperforming PMs. My miners are pretty much down across the board. Guess I'm just in a slump. Is silver stacking the meta right now? Are people still into miners these days?

>>56277264
>a secondhand meme coin? Aha ho ho... Um... $1000??

Best I can do is $150 and that's a bargain

>>56277297
someone sold theirs for 600 last month, desu hoping for someone who wants the full set to order it. I want to buy a 2000$ embroidery machine to get into a hobby.

>>56277264
I admire your optimism, but...
For $1,000, I'd at least like to see a picture of the Yotsuba side.

>>56277329
ill need to touch it then and every meme coin I touch its plastic ends up scratched. ill look into what kind of glove I need.

>>56277316
Good luck anon. The only people who buy the gilded versions are richfags buying vanity coins to take pictures with next to their anime figs that they would never sell

>>56277350
of course, no one but a rich collector would pay for it.

>>56277329
added obverse

>>56274449
The grand folks and everyone of that generation i knew called those times the "Dirty 30's". The grand mother lived on a farm and said there was the occasional man passing through asking for bread. They even lost a chicken to gypsies
Have kids these days even heard of the Grapes of Wrath? People in CA still call the bakersfield valley 'a bunch of okies' almost 100 years later

>>56277385
That should help you get other 4channers to look too. Guessing pmg is a bit obscure even here.

The slurp continues but the premiums are still high on shit I actually want

>>56276011
Nice find cardboard anon

>>56277777
>>56277777

>>56277771
Thank you kindly. My largest piece of gold I've found out there.

are we expecting gold to drop below 1800 in the next couple of weeks?

>>56277960
>below 1800
$1600 by Halloween

>>56278049
thanks, i'll hold off till halloween to buy then.

>>56277960
AGE tubes will be 25k for black friday, screenshot this

>>56266866
Uhhhhhh silverbros its buying time

CHEAPIES ARE BACK

>>56266892
they will do something to screw over the metals chads but it won't work well for looking because who's going to stop you from using your metals for purchases in private? the black market will grow

nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
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Jannies have tongued my anus 116 times.

>>56274935
I love these too but in Australia anything under 996 isn't classified as investment grade and we need to pay 10% tax on them
That's also why you can't get gold Krugs or Eagles here too

nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
nyancatmoney.com
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Jannies have tongued my anus 163 times.

nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
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nyancatmoney.com
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NCM is a AI token that shills itself, sound cool? Do you hate jannies? Are you tired of fickle humans that won't shill their own bags? Get a bag that shills itself.

Jannies have tongued my anus 169 times.

>>56278398
Sounds too good to be true anon, I have doubts. Can you prove this bag will shill itself?

nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
nyancatmoney.com
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NCM is a AI token that shills itself, sound cool? Do you hate jannies? Are you tired of fickle humans that won't shill their own bags? Get a bag that shills itself.

Jannies have tongued my anus 169 times.

nyancatmoney.com
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nyancatmoney.com
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nyancatmoney.com
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The NyanCatMoney spam will continue until the marketcap improves.

Jannies have tongued my anus 172 times.

>>56274899
Checked for the most noble metal. Elite metal chad now.

KEK
Playing with AI is actually quite fun

>>56278687
indeed, making the AI shill biz and watching anons argue with your AI bot is very fun too

>>56278687
lets meme it into reality

nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
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This is incredibly fun to watch you seethe for us NCM chads, why not buy a bag and turn your seethe into joy? This is a hostile take over of biz and it will not stop

Jannies have tongued my anus 220 times.

>>56276872
Also worth keeping in mind is that these videos only get views BECAUSE the people shown make the wrong choice. It is almost certain that there is a bias towards showing people making the wrong choice, both in selecting who is going to be interviewed and as to which videos end up on the cutting room floor.

nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
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nyancatmoney.com
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This is incredibly fun to watch you seethe for us NCM chads, why not buy a bag and turn your seethe into joy? This is a hostile take over of biz and it will not stop

Jannies have tongued my anus 254 times.

>>56276464
$800 over spot???

is it normal for prices to vary on a website vs in their own local shop? just bought some and the prices for a 1oz gold krug are off by about 50€ and 1€ for a 1oz silver maple leaf. went in store to buy them anonymously and just checked the prices online and i paid more than what they sell the same stuff on their website. 1€ for the silver is not that big of a deal but 50€ on the krug is quite a difference imo.

>>56279072
Boomer tax. Sorry fren. It’s a common trick some (((shops))) like to pull.

>>56279113
damn. shame that its the most reputable shop in my area by a wide margin.
what do you think would happen if i just told him the prices on their own website are way lower? would they just tell me to fuck off and buy on the website then? i do want to buy anonymously.

>>56266866
It's over.

>>56279124
Chances are they’d probably just match the online price and apologize for the mistake. Knowing full well that the next 20 boomers that come in will pay the inflated price, they won’t be bothered lowering it a tiny for one person that caught the discrepancy so that there’s no issues, or potentially drive you, and those in ear shot, away,

>>56279072
my gun store does drop shipping; so if one of my dealers are doing a special then it often beats my instore prices. i will match though

>>56277113
For me, it's the mercury dime. Last time I was at my LCS I was buying some junk silver with as much money as I had. And after he rang me out, becuase I am such a good customer, he tossed on three mercury dimes into my bag. I said "wow! three for free!?" He laughed and said "haha, I like that. I'm gonna start calling you three for free!" Now every time I go there he looks up from the counter and says "Hey look everybody! It's three for free"

>>56279407
Nice.

>>56279407
Based. I never encouraged name/tripfags, but looks like you found your name.

>>56275057
What's on other side of this coin?

>>56278712
Make one of a silver dragon fighting a paper tiger.

>>56277264
the meme coins have run their course, shit is pretty lame now

>>56273591
you are indeed right. Look at how late rent is handled in liberal cities like New York. It is actually very easy to squat in a house for a long period of time.
It will be a slow boil like the other anon said (>>56273604). That's how it has always been.

Just wanted to drop by and say you’re coming with us. It’s been a pleasure, our real life begins soon.

>>56279027
CBC is Canadian so that's Canadian dollars (~0.73 US dollars).

Bleeding money.
/pmg/ said i'm gonna be rich and it's a safe bet.
Was i lied to?

>>56279849
Shh… this is capitulation. Do not capitulate.

>>56279849
>Bleeding money.
>/pmg/ said i'm gonna be rich and it's a safe bet.
>Was i lied to?

You stack to go loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnng.

>>56279849
Anyway, got a bit carried away there with the gold. I'll reduce to 1oz a month for as long as i have unused cash and probably 1oz every two month after that.

>>56277731
Yep nobody’s parting with their collector shit at bargain basement prices. I honestly kind of hope spot goes back up just to inject some supply into this market

>>56276872
He usually phrases his question in such a way that he is not committed to giving the PM, should the person make that choice. However, I did see one of his videos where the guy immediately grabbed the 10 Oz silver bar out of his hand. Mark seemed happy enough to accept its loss on that occasion; he smiled and congratulated the guy on making the right choice.

>>56267084
If you buy gold from the people that control their price then you are hurting yourself
>>56266925
This guy has a big nose
>>56267028
>>56266892
Platinum, Palladium and Gold because silver has less durability
Don't buy G7 gold, it's more expensive and they control the price
Palladium and platinum are scarce
If you buy big chunks of metal then it will be way cheaper
Right now just hold and study the market, it looks like housing prices will go down

>>56279849
>Bleeding money
Yeah that's the trickery, I lost about 96% of my stock investment gains in the last 4 years. It can happen anywhere. The trick is not to sell especially if your money is in a commodity, Prices always bounce back and grow. Remember anon, there's a finite amount of material. Stack for your retirement or your generational wealth. Don't stack for Thursdays gains or Friday's Drinks

>>56279930
Buy when there's an cheapies instead of buying on a schedule. I buy gold when I can get 1 oz coins under 1800 euros. I buy silver when I can get 1 oz coins under 24 euros.

according to schizos the emergecy alert is gonna make a happening or something today, and the reason for the current gold silver dip is because kikes are loading up on it to prepare

schizos are debating its either zombies, ayylmaos, or a nuclear explosion in the sky, of course, all of them being falseflags

>>56279849
>we're doing a silver run, we're all going to be rich
>w-well the silver run will happen eventually
>actually metals are a hedge against inflation
>a-actually they're a store of wealth
>its normal for metals to do worse than fiat when the economy stalls

>>56279849
if you bought the same amount in stocks you'd be down like 50%

>>56280139
>all of them being falseflags

Its all scare tactics at this point, everything they've had planned for the last 100 years is dead on arrival, they never took into account that people change and the same tricks dont work in a different century or even decade, people in the 50's might have fallen for this shit but in the 2020's its pathetic.

>>56279992
>Platinum, Palladium and Gold because silver has less durability
wtf are you even talking about
you clearly are new and yet you're talking like an expert
kys

>>56280288
yeah all the alien shit is so eye rolling
even my dumb boomer parents who grew up on space movies and stuff roll their eyes

new bread baking
>>56280328
>>56280328
>>56280328

>>56279849
Most people chasing after yield, dividends and basis points will likely suffer an 80% loss once the bad debts are reconciled. Debt/leverage is a wealth extraction mechanism and it will get pulled out from under us and we'll realize we have all been buying overvalued assets our whole lives and we'll all be materially poorer. Precious metals do not have this problem because they are being shorted and backstopped in multiple fashions such as the input of labor, energy, and also extremely scarce and useful to production.PMs are going to get a lot more pricey as oil hits $100+ per barrel.
Your stocks are backed by pennies on the dollar worth of assets and only pumped up on the back of corporate profits that are subsidized by a $700BN trade deficit and overinflated purchasing power of the dollar. The amount of interest you pay for a house is proportionally destroying your purchasing power as you fruitlessly pay interest when the danger of shrinking purchasing power of bank credit could see a collapse in dollar value of your home given no one can afford one on a cash market.
People that have their "value" stashed far away from leveraged assets such as real estate and stocks and bonds will do very well. This includes someone who owns capital assets such as machinery. (directly and not through overbought equities).

>>56275666
Thanks satan (big fat liar)

>>56280189
>its normal for metals to do worse than fiat when the economy stalls

its actually not normal at all, which makes it all the more sus

last post of the limit, see you lads in the next one

started a tube of wieners. will try to finish it before eoy
>880R88

>>56280656
Actually, this is the last post, chudarinõ.

>>56280656
I specifically said "of the limit"

>>56281226
brb going to commit sudoku

>>56279852
I said many moons ago, that before the big lift off there would be another dip to the likes never seen before. Most here will capitulate. Most here check the day to day prices. Give it a few days of deep dipping and most here will be joining the boomers in their LCS selling what they hold.

>>56279072
i did the ping test on my coins and while the gold coin sounds really nice the silver ones dont. the gold ping is really loud and sharp and lasts for a couple seconds while all of my silver coins sound pretty dull imo. its also a very short ping compared to the gold one. i used one of those frequency checker apps and the pings peak at 4600ish Hz and i read somewhere that silver coins should be around 6400Hz. did i get duped? the seller is one of the more if not most reputable in my area. i dont have any magnets at hand to do those tests but ill get one as soon as i can.