/biz/ - Business & Finance

IS THIS IT
COULD THIS BE
IS IT GONNA HAPPEN
ARE WE GONNA GET
WILL WE SEE
THE BIG ONE?!?!?

>>56276716
maybe too big

>futures
>yields
>fx

This is it. This is the big one.

>>56276719
what is this face meant to convey?

>sold my shorts too early
what now?

FUCK MATT GAETZ
FUCK JEROME POWELL
FUCK AMERICA
FUCK YOU

*DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGINDG*
HOW DID YOU ANONS DO TODAY?! I MADE A SMALL PROFIT WITH SPY PUTS BUT LOST SOME ON QQQ PUTS I'M GOING TO TRY AGAIN BECAUSE I'M CURRENTLY UNEMPLOYED AND HAVE NO SOCIAL LIFE TO DISTRACT ME

>>56276733
you buy some more

>>56276733
you mean covered
mmmrrrr aspergers

>>56276692

Bros, my fucking Amazon bags got totally heemed today, what the hell happened???

>10Y: 4.848% +0.046
>30Y: 4.98% +0.043

Repeat after me: Higher. For. Longer.

>>56276728
pleasure and submission?

>>56276757
thank you i'm autistic and had never quite come across that one before

>>56276750
First the foot soldiers die. Then the generals.

>captcha: KR88R

WHEN I SAY GREAT,
YOU SAY DEPRESSION!!!
>GREAT!!!

>futures

>>56276775
what's so great about it if i have to suck cocks for mcnuggets

whatever the japs are doing to bonds, they kind of need to stop

>FTC going after Amazon
>Ofcom in UK also probing antitrust shit too
>Rumors of other countries like Australia coming in for the kill

Damn is the economy that fucking bad that they are trying to bleed Amazon dry out of 100s of billions?

>DXY monthly bouncing off retest of 40yr downtrend break
How high are we going?

>>56276692
>Futures

>>56276741
I short through inverse ETFs anon

>>56276786
so does everyone else, we're all in this together anon

>>56276790
why would they do it in the bull market when they are long?

western governments are trusted because they do the right thing, even if it takes awhile

>>56276789
you are wrong. they need to keep going.

>>56276791
150 before the end of the year
checkem

>>56276765
She's practically doing "Ahegao" and I think this is pretty old or at least a video before Ahegao got popular.

>>56276804
they're the fund's shorts not yours

>>56276786
Oh don't complain, you'd do that anyway.

>>56276791
>How high are we going?
All the way

>>56276820
The funds shorts are my shorts if I bought into it

>>56276789
>>56276791
USDJPY's already back up to 149.30

>>56276809
you know what fuck it, I am pairing down my oil position. I swear to God this faggot market I can't take banks collapsing on me.

>>56276738
>continuing to gamble when you are unemployed
unless you worked in the finance industry before. then that is a no no brother.
repeat after me: rice. beans. job applications.

>>56276837
It’s gonna hit 150

>>56276837
oh no bad ruck

IT'S THE BIG JUAN

>>56276842
its portfolio money, not paying bills money, so its ok

>>56276841
>selling oil
>one of few items still having a massive long term bull case
suit yourself, I am not selling my shale oilies until $200/bbl at the bare minimum.

>>56276863
>its portfolio money
it will be paying bills money if you can't get a job soon. or if you lose it all on options.

forgot pic. but you probably knew.

>>56276865
The oil situation is probably more delicate than you give it credit for
If we get a March point 2 electric boogaloo that stuff is all going to shit hard

>get buy signal in a vertical cliff dive
Bros i think my algo trading system needs tweaking

>>56276884
Bro it knows.

>>56276874
its alright Ramsey-san i have an emergency fund, i'm debt free aside from my mortgage, and i cook most of my meals at home. so this portfolio money is ok to trade with. besides, its not like i'm going all in on a single trade or anything

>buy puts instead of selling my positions
>not fucked when the underlying shits the bed
Oh so thats what its like to use leverage responsibly
Its a good feeling desu

Have we ever had a black Wednesday yet?

>>56276789
This is worse than Pearl Harbor.

>>56276880
>If we get a March point 2 electric boogaloo that stuff is all going to shit hard
And? As long as you have quality companies and not the laggards with shitloads of debt, this just gives you another buying opportunity. Those trillions of dollars they are going to need to print to pay the debt have to go somewhere. And people NEED energy (oil+natgas) unlike plastic junk from China, streaming subscriptions, social media approval, questionable financial products, and whatever else (if anything) most of the rest of the S&P500 makes.

>>56276865
You're delusional at that price, even opec wouldn't that because it would plunge the globe into a recession and destroy all demand for oil

>>56276889
>i'm debt free aside from-
cash it. tonight. if you even can.

>>56276919
>You're delusional at that price
not in a world where a Big Mac costs 30 U.S. dollars. we do not live in that world yet. but we will.

>>56276865
Alright daniel plain view, when oil hits the bottom Wich stocks do i buy?

What are you guys staring at?

>>56276931
eh? cash it? cash what?

>>56276909
Unironically this
>>56276919
>>56276931
Our omnipotent and trustworthy friends in Goldman Sachs said 105 is the peak. After 105 the Saudis know it will price in a ton of alternative research cutting a future decade of sales off. Do with that what you will.

>>56276943
LPG

>>56276935
Well in the "blue chip" category I would recommend MRO. Big enough to have low production costs & geographical diversification (so no one state can fuck them over), small enough to be be sued by angry teenagers. Also they were doing buybacks while everyone else was doing divvies, good stealth move.

If you want something spicier CIVI is worth a look although their current CEO is all about ESG for some reason (maybe sucking up to the state gov...). They are a small Colorado producer with low debt that has been aggressively buying out bankrupt rivals and consolidating their field. Beware that they do have a higher production costs but they are natgas & propane heavy so oil price alone won't sink them.

ESTE was interesting but I don't get the vibe they'd survive a second big one. Their share situation is weird too, single entity has high %.

I don't hold PXD but they're also probably a good bet if prices drop enough. A lot more geographically consolidated but very efficient operations as a result.

we're entering a great depression-- here's why that's a good thing

>>56276978

>>56276973
>small enough to be be sued by angry teenagers
sorry, I meant small enough NOT to be sued by angry teenagers

>>56276978
>>56276983
[pilpul intensifies]

>>56276983
i mean, i joke, but old scifi paperbacks will always be there for me to read, and i'm happy with simple fare on the table

>>56276963
>105 is the peak
You are still thinking in 2023 dollars. lets try a thought experiment. try thinking in 2028 dollars..

>>56276931
>Big Mac costs 30 U.S. dollars
Sure, so in your mind Powel is going to completely do a turn around cut rates to 0% and start printing money, because that tis the only way we get there

>>56276951
NOT THE TIME TO BE WEEBING WEEBOSAN

>>56277002
Who knows.

>>56277009
its (dare i say it) fun

>>56277004
>implying a pivot is needed to have another big break up in inflation
here's the thing. yeah lending will go down with high rates. but.. when the gov is the biggest spender of USD... treasuries become just a money hose. Imagine the 2020 stimmies every month. every week. every day. that is short-duration treasuries with high enough interest rates.

>>56276983
I also wear a helmet while trading

>>56277013
>Not using M2
even with "tightening" it is flat since May

Damn my cum rag smells awful. I made big cummies today. This is financial advice.

>>56277017

>>56277066
im so hairy i just wipe it on myself
like robin williams hairy

I’ve been feeling too intimidated to trade lately but I have quotas to reach. I almost made the mistake of going long when the JOLTs job number was released. Every day trade could spell potential liquidation

So whens the bottom falling out on the market again?

>>56277036
ok keep thinking that, lets see what happens I wonder if you were the same guy calling 150 oil last year

>>56276733
Based cypher.

>>56276733
I dated a girl who was into me because apparently I look like the “ice truck killer” from Dexter and I guess I was supposed to take that as a compliment

>>56277055
Haha, as I posted that I wondered what the m2 was. Flats ok though as inflations calculated yearly.
Good to know it was May though, as monetary policy is supposed to take between 18-24 months to dry out.

>>56277080
2 weeks

>>56277109
I didn’t know Mexicans were on 4chan.

>>56277080
March 24, when everyone has forgotten the last month or so.

>>56277071
Thinking about that time when I was a freshman in college in 2008 and just came on my belly every night and showered every other day and probably walked around smelling like cum. And also my roommate probably knew I was trying to discretely gap under the sheets every night. Also that time he came back from class early and I had a wet spot on my shirt, didn't even realize until years later. Good thing I never saw or interacted with anyone from that time again.

>>56277124
Long term treasuries are rolling up 10bp nightly. Guessing firms are trying to juice their quarterly returns before a massive sell off

>>56277080
seems to be in progress right now, no? market crashes come in a variety of flavors. they're not all super fast like 1987 or 2020.

>>56277136
I feel the opposite. I feel very optimistic for May. Just no idea what will happen between now and then.

>>56277139
Man I really did not develop self-awareness until my mid-late 20s. The autism meme is real.

>>56277142
Ive got ally puts that are helping keep me afloat. Im both right and holding it long enough to actually get paid. Way I see it they will keep crashing as lower risk yields go up.

Reminder that I did a reading earlier and interpreted it as a woman causing disgrace. Be careful of headlines with that tomorrow

>>56277139
I lived in what was dubbed the fluid room. My room mate was always bleeding, puking and pissing in the garbage. I had allergies so snot everywhere, plus was jerking off twice a day.
Still he was older and very good with the ladies so we always had chicks in their. Looking back it was both disgusting yet surreal.
Side not he dropped out as his Dad died and they found a shit ton of naked pics of his 3yrold sister in his Dads Desk.

>>56277150
You are right but who would of guessed these yield increases? Guys were talking today like everyone knew Japan was going to sell bonds. Such complete horseshit.

>>56277154
>a woman causing disgrace
So tomorrow is Wednesday?
>inb4 dirty East coasters

>>56276898
>buy puts
>they lost enough vega and still have a ways to go that it doesnt respond to a 5% drop

i need an update on the futures status

>>56277171

>>56277163
Because japans experiencing inflation and they still havent even begun to turn off printers. Currency devaluation occurs.

2 weeks ago I said if the Russell hit 1800, I'd use some of my dry powder to slurp. Now I'm waiting for 1600.

my system won't let me buy until we're 20% lower

>>56277171
the color is red

>>56277168
Inv magician and 5 swords indicate being shamed or humility
8 swords is crisis or calamity, and queen swords can indicate female sadness and embarrassment or absence
3 cups can mean end or dispatch

>>56277163
Once again Japan launches a surprise attack to destroy us.

so bonds are basically yielding defi shitcoins for boomers right?

>>56277178
I’m pissed about how little conversation the Russell gets. You never see articles or podcasts talking about it. I’m curious why it’s doing so shit. I know it’s impacted more by rates than the others but it’s by far the most beaten exchange.

Why today, of all fucking days, are retail bears absolutely foaming at the mouth?? It's actually kind of bizarre. I stand by my prediction of pic related, we're still crabbing around above the 200 dma and none of this nothingburger red is breaking through it. Honestly I think it's looking exactly like last year's October setup, which of course assblasted all the cocky bears claiming once again that the sky was falling. Guess we'll see.

>>56277198
Haha, I can’t tell if that’s 90’s innocence or modern day AI. Either way I love it.

>>56277201
Top 2000 means more smallcaps, which can often have less experienced CEOs, riskier strategies, etc. Theyre more volatile

Hail Satan!
Hail the Bear Market!
Hail capitulation!
Hail roping baggies!
Hail suffering!
Hail pestilence!

>>56277204
>90s innocence
>WTC was 2011
How did high fidelity Evangelion fanart preduct 9/11, 11 years ahead of it happening?

>>56277202
I have zero confidence in this but I predict a rough Oct (Spy Down 6%), Nov 6th is bottom, crabs till March, than things get alive again.

>>56277154
Five of Swords - Dejected men walking towards the water, as the victor sneers.

Eight of Swords - Water lights the way out.

All air and water in this reading, with the major arcana seeming to indicate that the solution lies in the Eight of Swords. Trusting the path forward, even blindly? Faith in the self to be free of bondage?

>>56277222
It’s just two teens flying in New York. Side note, how old are you? 2011.

>>56277154
I think I remember you from a long while back here on /biz/. Good to see you're still around. I don't like what that reading has to say.

>>56277215
Hail The Beast!

>>56277235
33, just had a brainfart. Instead of doing 2001 - 11 = 1990, i did 2023 - 12 = 2011

>>56277234
I just read from the booklet that came with it, i dont know the elements on them

>>56277241
No thanks

>>56277237
How long is a long time? Ive only posted on /biz/ for 2-3 years

I'm thinking green tomorrow. 4 red days in a row just don't happen.

>>56277248
Swords are air, Cups are water, Wands are fire, Pentacles are earth. The Magician possesses all four elements, and channels the energy of the cosmos/heavens to the material world. I don't know the specific query you were asking, but it doesn't seem to be a very auspicious reading. Neither is it all bad, the Eight of Swords is a deceptively happy card, in my opinion; the woman is blinded, seemingly surrounded by a prison of swords. And yet, the way out is wide open, if she simply has the faith to move onward.

Fuck y’all doom posters. Always inverse /smg/

There was an anon who told us this will happen, right? That was not a dream? He said it is when the yield curve uninverts that we have to worry? And nobody believed him.. Tell me that was real!

>>56277200
Yes, except if they rug we all die.

>>56277271
We also had what, 11 or 13 green days in a row last month?

>>56277272
I should mention I got the classic rider-waite illustrations since I liked the esoteric nature of them, but ironically I dont use them to their full effect. I was actually visualizing the magician and it ended up being the first I drew.
For my spreads, I do the cross to describe the state of the querant, and then the 3 cards build context for the future. I used to do it as challenge/action/outcome, but found it harder to read.
In this case I was asking about the market itself

>>56277278
>market value
>$300
Based, if you got a 10 bagger you'd be at $3000...

>Futures

>>56277311
You pickup penniesin front of steam rollers. I steamroll Pennie’s into hard cash

>>56277285
That's how the yield curve has always worked. Ambiguous timing between a recession and when it first inverts, but when it uninverts you're in the shit. Recession within like a month or something.

>>56277317
Already recovering lel

Market isn't crashing, it's the opposite and going to fly.

Either it'll settle around 5% or if it goes above that too fast, Fed will need to do QE again to get yield curve control going to suppress long bonds. And then we rip to the stratosphere.

You'll see.

>>56277285
That was me and many others. Seemed to happen every time there was a crash. Got lucky this time, since the pattern seemed to repeat again
I also mentioned Yom Kippur/Sukkor and the Shemitah
If nothing else, I'm having a good time

>>56277202
Bruhs memelines are literally of the charts

>>56277325
Watch for a) good earnings and b) likelihood of a rate hike increasing before the next FOMC meeting. Bears are going to cry so much.

>>56277304
I'm a rider-waite man myself, and I also know I'm not using them to their full effect. There are layers upon layers of symbolism and knowledge held in those cards. Stay on the path, anon.

>>56277321
It inverts because bond holders expect cheap cash in the future. Normally that’s due to a recession. This time it might be a recession, might be inflation is beat.
Under these conditions the typical yield talk conversation are a lot different than in the past. I.e. every other inversion didn’t just come off insane QE.

>>56277321
>Recession within like a month or something
Explain why that would happen this time though

>>56277364
>might be inflation is beat
>might be
lol you're being generous

>>56277361
Please enjoy this image and reflect on it, its one of my favorites

>>56277364
>>56277368
>Explain why that would happen this time though
It's the first time we've uninverted via bear steepening, this is true. We're supposed to have the Fed panic cut because they broke something, not a collapse in long term yields because the Nipponese broke something.

>>56277361
>>56277391
Post 3 tickers to buy tomorrow or fuck off with this devil worshiping. /smg/ is a Judeo-Christian general.

>>56277391
Thank you, I will consider it.

>>56277325
I am not bullish and I still believe you. They're not gonna have the bears win without going through a rollercoaster first

>>56277403
I only invest in DENN

>>56277425
That and CBRL... What the fuck is that? Why the fuck is Denny's getting heemed so badly? Red like every day in August and September.

>>56277420
They're not gonna have the bears win, period, full stop. They aren't going to purposefully crash the market.

>>56277403
LABD and SOXS since biotechs will probably sell off, XLF or STRA or materials if youre ballsy long term

Also I want to be antisemitic, but please look up the history of usury, finance, banking, and judaism. You will see theyre all interwoven

>>56277403
Satan is in control Paulie

>>56277436
>want to
Dont want to, kek. Time for sleep
Some of you guys are alright. Dont go to the markets tomorrow

Very glad that I bought 45K worth of GOF in April to try and balance out my losses in SWTSX

>>56277433
Because Tony Sirico is no longer around to do commercials for them. Jokes aside, they never really recovered from the lockdown bullshit. Which makes sense, since they're a restaurant that thrives on being the place that you can sit down and get cheap food at weird hours of the night. The food is worse than it used to be based on the one time I've been there in the last two years.

>USA added $275 billion in debt within one single FUCKING DAY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Bros is it unironically over?

>people are still bullish at all when the stock market should be -40%.

These are facts
USA is propping up the dollar via unsustainable interest rates
When this momentary unsustainable mix of high debt, high spending, and high interest rate blows up, and it will blow up, the pain will be GFC level.

>>56277475
275 billion times nothing is still nothing

Why haven't you bought O yet anon?

>>56277450
F

>>56277456
Makes sense. I don't mind my food places charging more or cutting back on quality, but the combination? Forget about it.

Test

>>56277475
Just a one-time end-of-the-fiscal-year adjustment. I'm sure it'll be revised down any day now.

Aaaany day now.

>futures

>>56277482
>Buy O before the recession
And WHY would I do that, anon??? HMMM???

>investing in late stage rome USA in 2023 as every indicator is unsustainable and the elites are senile and dementia ridden

>futures

>>56277542
trust me. You will thank me later

It's almost like someone predicted all of this...

So let me take you to a better place!!!

>>56277604
Aint no better. I can take you!!

>>56277604
>>56277610
why didnt u save us.....................

GOIN' BACK TO TANGIER
WITH SOME JORDANS AND A SPEAR
POST-CHRISTIAN SHIT
POST CHICKEN AND THE EGG AND DICKS AND SHIT
WHO GIVES A SHIT
PASS THE SHERM STICK
NEO-REALITY
BE THE FREAK YOU WANNA SEE
JUST DON'T FOLLOW ME
I'M ON A JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THREE
GRAB YOUR FUCKING CHAIN AND DRAG YOU THROUGH THE BIKE LANE
WHILE EVERYBODY'S LIKE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>56277586
>futures
>Hang Seng down 1%
So we're going back to Oct'22 S&P, aren't we?

>>56277613
I did and one one listened....

>>56277586
Holy shit my puts have never moved up this much outside of regular trading hours wtf... Bros im making a lot of money but im still scared...

>Nikkei down 1%
It's the end, isn't it?

oooooarrooossssssssss

I GOT THIS PREGNANT SNAKE
STAY SURROUNDED BY LONG HAIRS
A PLETHORA OF MANIACS AND SPIRAL STAIRS
make-your-water-break
IN THE APPLE STORE
SINK OR SWIM, WHO FUCKING CARES??
CUT THE BIRTH CORDS, PRESS SEND
YEAH, THIIICK
GAGA CAN'T HANDLE THIS SHIIIT

Yeahhhh i'm so excited to see you exited. YEAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

So uh, will the national debt be an issue? What about house speaker?
>>56277632
>US 10y and 30y up 1%
Holey smokes, wtf is going on? Is it over?

HEADED FOR THE SAMMY DAVIS WING
THROW UP A BLACK HOLE AT THE ENTRANCE OF LINENS N THINGS ON THE WAY
NEVER CALL IT A DAY
VISIT TESLA'S GRAVE SITE FOR THE NINTH TIME TODAY
STILL ON THE WAY
BIGGER WIGS

>Bond markets

WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
>I'm in
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE

When being bullish near the lows this year.... so excited. uhhhhoohhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO CATCH A JPEG TO THE HEAD, ÜBER REACH
YOU'RE AN INTERN, ON WIKILEAKS
MOST LOVED THEREFORE MOST HATED
COME KNOCK ON THE DOOR WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU
GAME CHANGER
RECLUSIVE AGGRESSIVE
YINNIN AND YANGIN AND NOIDED
INFO WARRIOR JACK THE HACKER
THE ROLLING STONER
PROPHET OF DISASTER

>>56277651
Yeah realizing the second the bonds go down in yield the value of those dollars will go to shit. Bonds don't do anything now they are japanified. This is the last gasp before the overwhelming debt sends us into japanification

MY EXISTENCE IS A MOMENTARY LAPSE OF REASON
GOT THE DNA OF GOTHIC LEMONS
SHRED IT THIRTEEN TIMES OUT OF ELEVEN
YOUR BAD IDEAS ARE THE ATM
SHED MY SKIN
LEAVE IT FOR THE HOMELESS TO SLEEP IN
TRYNA GO FUCK THAT NAUTICAL
TEACHIN' BITCHES HOW TO SWIM

STOP SELLING

STOP SELLING

STOP SELLING

STOP SELLING

>sell another nvda option too early because fear of losses
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
TEACHING BITCHES HOW TO SWIM
TEACHING BITCHES HOW TO SWIM
>I'm in
TEACHING BITCHES HOW TO SWIM
TEACHING BITCHES HOW TO SWIM

>>56277668
I think what the USA will experience will make the Japanese asset price bubble look like paradise by comparison.

NOW BACKSTROKE
THROUGH YOUR K-HOLE
DON'T RUNNN
YA MIGHT SLIIIP
THE TABLE'S FLIPPED AND NOW WE GOT ALL THE COCONUTS, BITCH

RECESSION 2023

BURMESE BABIES UNDER EACH ARM
SCREAMIN' BEAUTIFUL SONGS
THE CRAY CRAY ULTRA CONTRARION
HAVIN' CONVERSATIONS WITH YOUR CAR ALARM
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
SOON YOUR CREW WILL BE SERVIN' SANDWICHES NAMED AFTER ME
VIETNAMESE STYLE FOOL, PLEASE

Yield curve steeping with the long end going up. What a shit show.... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHahHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Now i just hope the blackswan isn't caused by china invading taiwan. That is the type of blackswan that will send the US into a depression 3rd world country.

High Crime Rate. High Consumer Goods Inflation due to china stopping imports and a complete destruction of the supply chains. Deflation in assets, houses, and stocks.

Oil, metals, energy, and fertilizer will become the new meme stocks.

You will be rich in a big cheap house with nothing to buy and hoping you don't get killed or robbed.

FRONT ROW AT THE MASS GAMES
UNTRACEABLE BY NAME
YOU SPEAK OF US IN CERTAIN CIRCLES, YOU WILL BE DETHRONED OR DETAINED
GONE
GONE
YOUR SHIT IS GONE
GONE
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE

almost 4200, LMAO MELTING

I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I'M IN YOUR AREA
I'M IN
YOUR AREA
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in
I KNOW THE FIRST THREE NUMBERS
>I'm in

is now a good time to buy?

>>56277692
Hedgefunds are fucked in the ass right now, they are long the fuck out of bonds. Short bonds was a fake narrative, being short bond futures isn't the same as being short bonds but the dumbfuck journos are too stupid or too corrupt to explain it.

WooooooAhahahahahahaha

shut the fuck up you unfunny retard

you're so dramatic

>>56277707
Post housing collapse is when its safe to go 3-4x long. Right now it's just a stupid market because of unsustainable interest rates that can do anything because reality hasn't set in.

WHERE IS THE BOTTOM ?

wTF IS HAPPENING

RAMESHHH ??

WHO DIED?

IS THIS JUST BLATANT MANIPULATION?

>>56277720
waaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>56277707
Depends on what you mean by "good time to buy". Are you DCAing, or lump sum?
Would be a silly move to stop DCAing, imo

Unless the dow goes tits up like 12,000 points in a single trading day, markets won't crash.............


.........yet.

20 DAYS OF RED ONLY

I WAS PROMISED A SOFT LANDING

The more the Biden bobo posts the more bullish I become.

In hindsigh,t 4200 was the obvious support . bearmarket is over

>>56277740
Enjoy your permanent vacation to Cuba.

>>56277728
not you, the other retard

>yields

https://youtu.be/XSQoorx7foI?si=L2anaCEk3dlQ6jP3

>>56277752
See >>56277749

>Car makers keep raising guidance and sales
>Retail is doing better than expected
>doomertards keep spouting the same ol' same ol'
Inexplicably, normies are living the high life and consoooming at a rapid pace. Industrial output is also just fine. Interestingly, copper keeps falling off the cliff. According to some anons here, copper should start consolidating and getting ready for an uplift soon since it is unprofitable at these ridiculous levels but I don't quite see that happening.
I don't know, I think I am gonna start slurping some quality companies at these levels even though I think the trend has now reversed and we should now be in a clear downtrend (according to the TA at least). Pepsi should close the gap at 161 and that's when I am gonna start slurping.
Hopefully Eli Lilly drops meaningfully.
As a europoor, I should also investigate whether it is possible to get into the US treasuries. Getting 5-6% guaranteed sounds too fuckin good. I know someone here suggested a way to acquire them.

>>56277749
You're foolish for expecting a crash before the Fed has even done their first pause, and before the yields revert. Keep this same bearish euphoria when we rally into end of year.

save us

>>56277762
>>56277763
I am the messenger of fate. You're fighting forces that are bigger than you.

>>56277775

>>56277763
I'm not sure the Fed will have thw option to delay the crash. Saudi Arabia and Japan are dumping US treasuries quickly.

>yields
>futures
He's beginning to believe.

>futures
uh guise... this isn't very boollish

This October is looking pretty red, I gotta say.

BOBO YOU ARE RECKING THE CAR

So like, can someone tldr me on what the economy/bond market is doing?
I know things are looking bad but exactly how bad and how fast?
Is it gonna look like glorious uncontrolled chaos that destroys globohomo or is it just gonna be jews making off like bandits while we all suffer as per usual?

>>56277808
Only Lagarde talking today can save the market

>>56277822
Greece's economic fundamentals in 2009 were better than ours are now, right before their bond market did this. Their stock market crashed 95 and never recovered, and they reverted to developing country status. That was AFTER the EU bailed them out, averting a crisis that would have been even worse.

>>56277810
with 28 more days to go too KEK

>>56277811
>World economy

https://youtu.be/D9-voINFkCg?si=qoA2efw49YD-KZ8i

>>56277845
*crashed 95%

>>56277845
Welp, guess my hopes of being able to by at once in a lifetime lows and retiring early ain’t happening.
At least I have supplies

>People not understanding that October is typically the most volatile month of the year
Brooooos, come on. The only ok-looking index is the NASDAQ which can easily defy this trend and start mooning should something happen.
The Dow is fugged and has locked into a bad trend. It has completely reversed all the gains this year and is in the red for this year.
I just want some quality companies to drop but they won't budge. Fuckin Caterpillar, MSFT, Amazon, and so on just won't move down. Lockheed Martin looks interesting though.

>>56277727
>IS THIS JUST BLATANT MANIPULATION?
Equities, no. Bond market is going through some shit though.
>>56277737
>I WAS PROMISED A SOFT LANDING
How about we butter the bread in at 2800 S&P?

why is Europe dumping at open? EU has almost never dumped at open after a huge red day.

>>56277883
>>56277888
The bottom is, was, and always has been SPY 185

>>56277889
10 min til open. 50 mins ago premarket started. At least for west EU (Frankfurt, Paris, Milan) which has more financepower than east EU.

Can NVAX go back to $50? I wanna be rich

>>56277883
Don't long anything besides inverse etfs for the next two weeks. You have been warned.

>>56276756
HIGHER FOR LONGER!
>>56276789
It's not the JAPS it's the FED
>>56276809
Based

uranium trannies!

>>56277903
Next week thursday with CPI we will probabyl pump again

>>56277794

>>56277906
Just use insiders dumping and equity dilution as a price target.

>>56277906
uranium kings

Has "The Happening" finally begun?

STOOOP THIS DUMP OR I'M BUYING CRYPTO

S-surely yields will reverse and equities will bounce back h-haha...

>>56277909
Likely. I'm inclined to believe it will be sold hard.

>>56277917
It's just premarket bs but my puts are already up 25% compared to when markets closed yesterday. It's gonna be an interesting day for my account if nothing else...

>>56277916
Sorta seems like something for a variety of reasons but it's still a question of right now or sometime next year or something. The thing I don't believe is any 'crisis averted' arguments. It's all fucked, everybody knows it's all fucked, guberment and Fed can try put flexseal on a sinking ship but it's going down... some day... soonish.

Yields...

Literally nobody buying, lol

>>56277931
Yes, market rallied to ATH during covid initial global spread. The market movements don't reflect reality until it does. Everything is mega fucked globally and massive debt for Timmy to take zoom classes and endless money for food delivery, very little productivity as the world doubled it's debt for no gains. There should be panic about what a disaster of choices the world mad but boomers are content sitting on the tinder

>>56277896
The Frankfurt stock exchange opens at 8 am, so at the time of me making that post it was already opened for 40 minutes or so. Either way, now Xetra and all the other stock exchanges opening at 9am have opened too and the dump continues, which is really unusual for Europe. MSCI World is down -0.6% this early in the morning after a blood red day, usually it gets slurped up until US hours, then dumps.

>>56277961
It's getting slurped now. There will probably be another slurp at 10 and then we dump at US only to pump tomorrow

Gold bros... whats happening

>>56277996
price needs to be low so that chinks can buy

IT'S OVER

>>56277996
>DXY heading for 110+ again
>yields up
What do you think is happening? I fear we might see gold going back down to 1600 if this keeps up. Still, this would mean a good buying opportunity, r-r-r-right?

>risk free 5%

whats the point of even dealing with stock market crab right now just stay in bills till clear upward momentum

>DAX 200 poitns below weekly bollinger
Kek

>TSLA
I should short this garbage lmao

>>56278076
Jesus

I got a bag of msci world, still in the green now

Contemplating selling some if its really over

Looks like the dump is finally getting slurped now.

>yield
it being over is over, it's unover, Mumubros we're back!

>>56278051
Now is the time to do price discovery for robust stocks :^)

Damn, the EU really doesn't give a crap does it? Besides DAX, most are not even -0.5%. Dead cat bounce soon?

>>56278051
Etoro gives me 5% on my cash balance and I can exit whenever I want.
>literally waiting in cash and earning a higher yield that 99% of frog posters ITT

>too late to long
>too late short
>just in time to laugh at bondholders
Life's good

>Frankfurt stock exchange

>>56276973
am I a retard for buying OXY?

>>56278149
>Israeli friendship commemoration flag next to rainbow flag

God it feels good to dump red bags. Piece of shit stock go to 0 now please

>>56278115
>EU markets

https://youtu.be/X-f4im0PeUQ?si=nZhjr44oN9tnYCSF

I’m still investing in REIT’s

Yo romanian bonds bro, the yields are not stopping. 7% for 25,5 years, FUUUUUUUUUCK I BOUGHT A WEEK TOO SOON

>>56278159
Would be quite funny to have those two flags out at the stock exchange when the big depression 2.0 hits, very fitting

>>56278179
few understand

Tomorrow is interest rate decision >>56278186
Might be in anticipation of a cut. Poland also cut last time. Romania is 5 meetings now at the same level (7%).

>>56278179
The thing is yesterday I just memed about the largest yield bond I found on my broker. Then I looked into it a bit more and they were up to 9% just last year. So even 7% may still be too low. What is going on in Romania?

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>>56278179
>>56278186
>locking in 7% for 25 years in country where you can expect inflation to average more than 10% yearly in that time period
Congrats anons you just played yourselves

why shouldn't i just park 45,000 dollars of my excess cash into VMFXX and soak up the 5.29% yield

>>56278246
you'd be a fool not to

>>56278179
>>56278205
>>56278227
>he bought debt denominated in Lei
>he wants to have more Lei in 25 years
laughingwhores.jpg

>>56278246
Because you can park it in NVDA and get 200%+ returns. Also I am warning you: do not post my wife ever again.
I am also thinking about buying some bonds bund as a europoor my options are kind of limited. 4% yield? That's about half of the inflationary rate.

>>56278275
Yeah you have to diversify your currency risk. I'm 50:30:20 in USD, Eur, and Romanian Leu.

>>56278277
you seem to be under some sort of misunderstanding.
i have been posting lum here for more than 3 years. she is my wife. in fact, that image you saved, is one i originally posted.
i am already 100% 300% invested in semiconductors.

>>56278227
>literal retard thinks I live in Romania

>>56278205
Yes, they were higher. I don't think they'll get this high again. Romanian central bank probably won't hike anymore.

>>56278275
>kek, he thinks they aren't denominated in EUR
Are you guys intentionally stupid? Is this the standard of this board?

I GET KNOCKED DOWN
BUT I GET UP AGAIN

https://think.ing.com/snaps/romanian-national-bank-preview-on-hold-for-longer/

>higher for longer

>>56276791
>USA becomes unaffordable
>living in Japan as a sixfigurenaire american becomes an easy and sensible solution

>>56278331
>https://think.ing.com/snaps/romanian-national-bank-preview-on-hold-for-longer/
>we expect
>Poland cut 75 bps last time despite expecting 25bps
Yeah, banks are always right, right?

>>56278326
>implying EUR wont disintegrate in the next 10 years

>>56278331
https://tradingeconomics.com/poland/interest-rate
And poland had 10% inflation when they cut.

>>56278277
>up 200%
>after a 100% reduction

>higher for longer

https://youtu.be/Pav2f4b-1ZE?si=ygunhabXevXjeqdi

>>56278326
Made me look, most are in Lei, a minority are in Yuros. Suck my nuts newfag who can't greentext

>>56278342
I don't know, I'm not exactly well positioned to get insider info on Romanian economics. Either way, now seems like a good time as any to buy a bit.

>>56278312
You have grown old and you no longer stimulate Mrs. Lum as you used to. She had to find someone else to satisfy her endless desires. Sorry to break it to you, son.
And there we have the 10 AM pump in the EU... hopefully it drops after lunch.
Do you guys reckon the ECB is gonna be forced to hike on account of the strong dollar? They risk the EUR getting hugely devaluated otherwise. But the inflation is slowing down (albeit from an ATH level so the real inflationary rate is much higher). Hmm, I do think we're gonna see another 25 bps

>Futures

We are healing bros, we're gonna make it through October!

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>Implying the implication

>>56278355
The ones I bought are in EUR. So why would I care which you found, retard.

https://www.boerse-frankfurt.de/anleihe/xs1968706876-rumaenien-republik-4-625-19-49

>>56278363
>inflation is slowing down

>>56277616
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>>56277648
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>>56277684
>>56277690
>>56277701
my shit is unironically gone, how do i recover from this?

baking

>>56278377
what do u mean gone u went all in 2 months ago or what

>>56278372
Yep that's the exact one I was looking at.

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>>56278394
Traderepublic?

>>56278363
sorry, our marriage is an eternal, unbreakable bond.
i will use the gains from my 5.3% VMFXX yield to purchase more lum dolls.

>>56278397
Yes, I've started getting into it. Looks like a decent European broker finally.

>>56278380
>>56278380
>>56278380
>>56278380

>>56278399
>i will use the gains from my 5.3% VMFXX yield to purchase more lum dolls.
>anime dolls
don't forget to invest in your transition

>>56278405
>
Yeah, it's fine. 4% interest on balance is nice. Can park money there and trade if there is an opportunity

>>56278374
Inflationary rate is slowing down. The derivative is smaller and smaller which of course makes sense. Due to the comparison effect the inflation now is smaller than last year. That's just simple math. Come on m8.
Inflation is still extremely high and certain (a lot) categories are still way WAY higher than the target of 2%. The main reason for the slower rate of inflation is electricity prices which are getting severely heemed (almost free and sometimes the prices are negative)

>that fucking yield curve.
Imagine being an early 20's zoomie right now. Right as you start your life living on your own you will be hit with a biblical depression from which you will never be let out from until you're too old to make it.

>>56278413
What part of a man and his wife makes you think of trannies?
Tough look anon. Maybe seek gender dysmorphia therapy.

>>56278399
Goddamn I love Lum. I should really get a gf so I can make her do Lum cosplay for me. Maybe next year...

>>56278179
They were close to 9% last year, should have bought then
Also BNR can't afford rising the interest rate; the vast majority of people have variable mortgages and next year we have 4 elections

>>56278433
>cartoon wife
>seek therapy
Ah yes, the hallmarks of a well adjusted individual

>>56278455
Yeah, which is why the bonds would increase in price, but they are decreasng because of the US. I didn't think of that last week, I didn't expect it to be in global competition. I only thought of EU inflation and rate maybe having a slight impact but more the BNR rate.

>>56278448
i make my current gf wear clothes with lum on it.
i'll convince her to do the cosplay soon.

>>56278520
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>emerging market bond aggregate bond yields at 8%
>higher than junk bonds in developed but actually backed by sovereign countries

literally WHY would you pick anything but emerging if you want bond exposure
the default risks are so fucking overblown imagine going for some shit corpo junk bond in the west instead of high yield bonds backed by Saudi Arabia or Turkey

>>56278554
Turkey is risky as they are fuckin your with the withholding tax. At least I read something about it. Very hard to get the money back they withheld.

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>>56278554
>literally WHY would you pick anything but emerging if you want bond exposure
Because it'll be in the local shitcoin, 8% on 7% inflation is a shit deal.

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