/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56273520
>U.S treasury 30-year yield rises to 4.856%, highest since 2007

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAH LETS CRASH THIS MOTHERFUCKER WITH NO SURVIVORS!!!

>/smg/ said the big short michael burry is a retard
>/smg/ said billionaire hedge fund legend ray dalio was a retard
>/smg/ said legendary billionaire fund manager jeremy grantham was a retard
>/smg/ said morgan stanley chief equity analyst mike wilson was a retard
>/smg/ said legendary youtuber the maverick of wall street was a retard
>turns out it was /smg/ who was the retarded one the whole time

The heeming will continue until we replace Powell.

I'm starting to think Taylor Swift is a glownigger.

my stocks make me angry
cause i'll never make it
don't hand me a baby
i'll probably shake it

Folks inflationary monetary policy is great. Inflation is our friend.

So, /smg/, what're you buying?

What're you selling?

I'M JINGLIN CHIN
>GO 'HEAD CHIN
I'M JINGLIN CHIN
>GO 'HEAD CHIN
I'M JINGLIN CHIN
>GO 'HEAD CHIN
I'M JINGLIN CHIN
>GO 'HEAD CHIN
I'M JINGLIN CHIN
>GO 'HEAD CHIN

The falling three methods played out on the daily today and broke through the short term support. We could see more downward moves tomorrow unless something good happens.

>>56273541
Until we are below 3900 on the spx all of those people are giant gays

>>56273557
short nvda
long volatility

>>56273569
McCuck is about to lose his job.
>Thats a good thing

>>56273569
english pls

>FTC going after Amazon

>UK antitrust probe happening too

>https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/10/03/why-amazon-stock-dropped-on-tuesday/

I will be surprised if Amazon does take a big enough hit and lose $100 billion or some shit outta this. I hope its bad enough that they need to sell Twitch off to make some money back from that shitshow kek.

>>56273583
What’s up with republicans always caving to democrat demands? Is it just a cucked party?

Buy DRV this week, you are welcome- its going to 80 sell around there.

>>56273584
You shouldve bought 1DTE calls before the bell

ahem

>>56273584
line go down

>>56273600
Oh, he gaan. I witness thee, anon.

>>56273541
did /smg/ say Bill ACKman was a retard for shorting TLT too?

what are the chances that a job is willing to hire someone if they dont have a resume due to no work experience?

Imagine not buying DRV After Hours at this price for the doom collapse this week...

>>56273600
Just own 1 share of each?

>>56273569
So things went down today for no good reason, and they'll continue to go down maybe possibly because things hit an arbitrary number that bears have determined is their CLIFF. Got it, the bear thesis is akin to financial astrology.

>>56273584
Dat fallen 3 methods was bussin and runned on da daily str8 trew da bottom. Wez gunna see more dropping niggas tommara if nuthin else happens.

If you honestly believe this is chart ain’t coming back down. I got a whole lotta fire alarm pulling to do.

>>56273557
tqqq call 35.5 then sell fri and into drv

>>56273600
okay now I see why that guy was having his autistic rage freak out
if you post it once, to be encouraged
if you post it in every thread all day, you're a fag

>>56273625
Why you would even touch anything related to VIX is fucking stupid

>>56273616
Just identity as a trans non binary agender person of color

>>56273616
really bullish post. For my short positions I mean.

>>56273625
nooo bby i need it to go to 150 so i can net even

>>56273616
theres a severe crisis of competence.
show up with a portfolio of work done and theres very few people who will turn you away.
think about it they're hiring tranny's who can somewhat do the job. You don't do that if you don't have options.

w-we're gonna b-be back soon, right bros?

>>56273619
No it’s a basket trade. $250 every 2 weeks for my Roth and a single $500 extra to reach $6500 for the year.

McCarthy removed as speaker of the house

ITS OFFICIAL

McKEK IS OUT!

McKEK IS OUT!

holy shit they actually did it! >>56273677
just got the headline ping too

>>56273629
He’s the reason it’s posted again. I’m going to post that picture everyday for a long time

>>56273677
Gaetz got him

>>56273677
...bullish for markets?

>>56273681
>>56273677
>>56273680
bullish, ATHs here we come

>>56273674
Unironically yes. This is playing out exactly like last September and October, except bears are even more desperately obnoxious this time. None of the red is for some tangible reason, it's all bearish speculation based on headlines and essentially astrology.

how come i get warned for posting women but polfags can post about their boyfriends

These are the back stabbers.

1.Biggs
2.Buck
3.Burchett
4.Crane
5.Gaetz
6.Good
7.Mace

Notice anything they have in common?

>>56273693
bearish, no more spending can pass until they elect a new speaker and that's probably a long ways away.

>>56273642
Say you're a female to male tranny. Show up, strong jaw, 6 foot, 190 pounds, prominent adam's apple. What are they gonna do? Call you a liar?

>>56273520
Holy shit did spy just drop another 1.38% in after hours?

>>56273701
Because the jannies here are leftist trannies that are jealous of real women

>>56273709
house leader binging dunked on, china lost a nuclear sub, Russia is testing nukes today, and America test nation wide alert system... you tell me.

>>56273544
Or worse I fear

>>56273711
Probably just a dark pool glitch or something

>>56273705
So is it bearish when the government spends too much money or when they don't spend any money?? I forget, the bear narrative changes with every headline

>>56273544
>im starting to think Taylor Swift is a glownigger.
Welcome to the party.... IDIOT.

>>56273723
>Male-ficent
my fuckin sides

>>56273703
Yeah I'm noticing I don't know who any of those are

>>56273723
>MALEficent

>>56273693
>>56273705
The only thing keeping the economy running is 2 trillion defiict spending by the US government
Kiss your asses goodbye

>>56273741
none of them are Jewish

you know what can help restore order to credit / bond markets?
ousting the #2 successor to the presidency for the first time in the nation's history
surely this will have no impact on political risk considerations for the bond market, in a time already of extreme turmoil
surely this will not add fuel to the bond market meltdown fire

>>56273734
Hey, don't be rude.

I hope Jefferies gets the gavel so we can have lockdowns and stimmies back, Recucklicans need to stop being so stingy

>>56273641
Uh… so I can sell fds to retards. That’s what wall street does. Bought near (Spy)ath.

I want to have sex with Lauren Boebert

>>56273703
Yes, they are not uniparty swamp creatures controlled by or part of the way over represented power tribe

>>56273759
>libshits are now going to try blame the meltdown in us bonds crashing the economy solely on republicans
rumao

>>56273759
It's actually bullish because this means that spending will stay at Nancy Pelosi levels until a new speaker is chaired.

None of this bullshit matters and I'm kind of flabbergasted by how adamant bears are that THIS PARTICULAR THING is going to be the end of it all. Bunch of fucking idiots can't even look at a 5yr chart and see what's happening, they just trade on headlines. Cannot fucking wait for last year to repeat.

>>56273794
it's this different time

>>56273782
4.5% bond yields aren't going to crash the fucking economy

>>>/pol/

Kevin Mccarthy just got removed as house speaker

What are the financial implications of this bros?

>>56273794
Cheers

>>56273799
wtf lewd

>>56273794
>Bunch of fucking idiots can't even look at a 5yr chart and see what's happening
Oh how mistaken you are hhaahahaha!!

>>56273804
None

>>>/pol/

>>56273782
The demonrats all voted to remove him too. They've got juist as much blood on their hands as anybody else. Now McCuck has to go over and kiss Hawkeen Jeffreys ass and apologize, so that Hawkeen will give him a few members of his caucus that have no intention of running again to vote for McCuck to restore order, but then McCuck is going to have to give more funding for the Ukraine, and something else. Like a new Transgender Library.

This wannabe jannie, kek

JANNIE'S GOT A GUN

>>56273733
Thats what happenes when you kick the can down the road for decades. If you keep spending, then you create a debt crisis, if you stop spending, then you crash the economy.
Iresponsible spending and money printing always leads to this situation.

>>56273813
I'm confused I thought Republicans didn't like Mccarthy because he sided with Biden on shit but why did all the democrats vote to remove him too

>>56273809
Now maybe check the longer term RSI and MACD on everything that's been shitting itself for two straight months

>>56273831
Damn remember good movies?

>>56273693
Poor ole bull just wants a little green. Someday big guy. By calls on inverse indices it will feel almost normal.

>>56273833
Lmao there is absolutely no realistic situation where the US government is in a DEBT CRISIS. Who do they owe it to?? Hahahaha what's the value of the money based on? Boomer era paradigms don't matter at all anymore, get with it

>>56273832
They probably think it will create confusion and they can blame things on Republicans not being unified

>>56273838
sorry mate higher high for yield curve is in. That alone has sealed the market's fate. We will not be revisiting equity market highs any time soon, so be grateful for the coming dead cat bounce; you'll be able to flee to cash while the desperate, greedy, blind normies will be your exit liquidity

>>56273849
> there is absolutely no realistic situation where the US government is in a DEBT CRISIS

We're so fucked aren't we?
Holy shit I can't believe I'm about to turn into a fucking bear.

There is 3 months left in the year.
You aren't negative ytd right anon?
SPY is up 10% ytd still.

>>56273761
sex with jeanna smialek for the purposes of procreation.

>>56273870
Up 58%
Have made absolutely no fucking money last month. Seems like it's going to be a running theme for this one too.

>check QQQ and SPY volume

>Above Average

Yep, the doompa aint over yet boys.

>>56273832
They did it so that the Republicans would look bad and they can go on MSDNC and CNN and scream that the republican conference is in shambles, and unable to govern, while behind closed doors they can attempt to extort a quid pro quo with McCuck. Votes to keep house leadership in exchange for stuff demonrats like unlimited funding for hohols, and restrictions on assault weapons.

>>56273870
went negative ytd this week. its over.

WHY THE FUCK DO THESE PEOPLE IN CITIES KEEP VOTING FOR DEMONRATS?!?!?!?! EVERYTHING IS FUCKING TAXED AND YOU CAN'T EVEN WALK AROUND ON THE STREETS AT NIGHT!

>>56273867
100 billion times nothing (true value of a us dollar) is still nothing

>>56273862
You have ZERO legitimate reasoning behind this aside from "it did it in the past!". Too bad this isn't the dot com bubble or the housing crisis or a pandemic.

>>56273867
Lol still can't answer WHO THEY OWE IT TO

>>56273867
This McCarthy thing somehow reminds me of the fall of the roman empire.
>money printing
>debt
>crumbling empire losing war in Ukraine
>political chaos
>racial chaos
Its over, isnt it?

>>56273881
ok rabbi

>>56273879

>>56273906
GO THE FUCK BACK

>>>/pol/

>Oil
>Tobacco
>Weapons
>Gambling
Any other based industries? Anything that makes me money is worth investing in. I dont care how many people those companies kill

the markets will never recover

>>56273895
you know the answer to this

>>56273904
just remember I tried to warn you

I should have sold at the top

>>56273914
Cannabis

>>56273911
>>56273879
>air pocket
heh, there's a lot of late buyers that bought everything the big boys were selling at that top

>>56273929
second best time to get in is today.

>>56273926
HAHAHAHAHA still not saying a single thing to prove your point. FUCK you people, you've absolutely ruined this board with your permadoomer bullshit.

>>56273926
WTF I THOUGHT SHE MEANT THEY WERE OUT OF SCOTCH

>>56273913
Next will be labour uprisings and strikes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_zvKikUwNM

>>56273906
The fall of Rome wasn't because of racial chaos, the actual cause was catastrophic climate change. However you are right that this is the beginning of the end, the science says we're heading in that direction anyway.

my farts are like concentrated shit whippits right now boys
trade accordingly

>>56273936
the liquidity crisis will absolutely devastate you, and when it does I want you to remember me, and think long and hard next time before shunning my help.

>>56273948
Just fucking prove your point or GO BACK TO POL. All you faggots ever say is "ohhhh it's gonna happen this time and it'll be worse than ever JUST WAIT" and then everyone waits and waits and when nothing happens you just shift the goalposts and come up with a new thing to claim is the end FOR REAL THIS TIME

>>56273794
>None of this bullshit matters and I'm kind of flabbergasted by how adamant bears are that THIS PARTICULAR THING is going to be the end of it all.
lol. its funny how americans go on about their daily lives as if nothing is wrong, when in reality they don't realize that we live on the brink of collapse every fucking day. a collapse in the bond market would lead to complete destruction of the financial system and it could happen, at any time. in fact, it could be happening right now

>TLT to 50
>yields to 10%+ across ALL durations
>thousands of banks shut down
>pension funds massively underwater
>BAC and Wells Fargo go bankrupt
>credit cards and ATMs stop working
>EBT cards frozen
>stock market crashes back to Covid lows in a matter of 3 weeks
>retirement accounts cut in HALF
>riots in the streets of every major city across the US greater than the george floyd chimpouts

>>56273906
Speaking of, I just used some of the money I made from shorts and bought a bunch of books to read. I'm a history fag and wanted to read up more on ancient/medieval civilizations.

Shit like Late Bronze Age Collapse, Constantinople and Romans/Greeks got me looking at the USA like "ruh roh", kek.

>>56273943
So, you're saying the million of migrants pouring over th border doesnt remind you of the end of the roman empire?
There wasnt a single cause that brought down the roman empire. Thats my point.
Just chaos on several fronts.

>>56273969
Holy SHIT imagine unironically believing that "thousands of banks" will shut down! Imagine believing wholeheartedly that credit cards and ATMs will stop working!

Why the fuck do we even tolerate this level of retardation here? That's conspiracy theory pol shit, get out of here. Stop shitting up the stock market thread with nonstop permadoomer trash.

>>56273968
my point was proven already but you're too stupid to read. The bond selloff and dollar strength are signs of a dollar shortage forming and liquidity becoming tight.

>>56273673
>theres a severe crisis of competence.
There's a severe glut of qualified candidates with shitloads of experience.
Companies WANT to hire the incompetent Pajeets instead, because they're obedient and less likely to leave for greener pastures.

maybe someone here will enjoy this as well

>>56273983
Lol. You will see. You will learn. He is not wrong.

>>56273983
We already had a banking crisis this year, remember that?

>>56273975
Hey, now, we haven't offered them citizenship for fighting in the army just yet.
>I think.

So guys, had an interesting talk with a few friends today and we all wanted answers;

What exactly would happen to all of those normies that got 'jobs' working as content creators, youtube shit, Twitch streams, social media whoring and pretty much internet waging? If we do get an economic shitshow in the future that rivals GFC 2008, Dot Com Bubble or even 1987, what would that do to their overall incomes?

Judging from just how fucking stupid a lot of millenials/zoomers/young adults are these days when it comes to budgeting, me and my buddies predict utter devastation and homelessness/unemployment to shoot through the roof. Unless everyone jumps on the Onlyfans bandwagon but I wonder if even that would support them at all...

>>56273995
Oh right, they've literally NEVER come up with new rules overnight to accommodate that kind of thing. Nah, no chance. It's not like they even did something like that earlier this year. Nahhh this time is the big one!!!!! Lmao

>>56274005
Again, prove your fucking points or get the fuck out of here and pedal your conspiracy theories on pol

posted this a few days ago, how did i know?

>>56274011
>Hey, now, we haven't offered them citizenship for fighting in the army just yet.
actually

>More than 148,000 immigrants have served and earned citizenship through the military in the last 20 years.

>>56274025
OK yeah it might be over. Ave Caesar and whatnot.

>>56273913
stupid faggot, this going to impact the markets heavily.
you are literally fucking retarded and need to die.

>>56274018
>new rules
great way of presenting your ignorance so vividly to us all to see. "New rules" don't make a liquidity crisis in the world's biggest bond market go away. Keep coping, your impotent desperation only further validates my thesis that most of the retards out there have no idea what's going on

>>56274040
GO BACK TO >>>/pol/

>>56274048
GO BACK TO DEATH

>>56274031
Im not sure what Trump represents?
Is he the Caesar that Spengler predicted?
The fascist dictator that people run to, to save them from the chaos?

>>56273983
>Holy SHIT imagine unironically believing that "thousands of banks" will shut down! Imagine believing wholeheartedly that credit cards and ATMs will stop working!
that's literally what would happen though

>>56274045
Hahahahaha so you're literally claiming that they won't just come up with some new policy to brush it all away? You're essentially claiming that the people in charge are going to purposefully crash the global economy. It's not going to happen. Take your conspiracy theories somewhere else.

>>56273544
>>56273744
>>56273723
>>56273735
>>56273761
>>56273734
Bloomberg trying real hard to justify S&P500 valuations based on Taylor Swift ticket sales.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ3yCYwBbsU

>>56273677
>>56273680
gonna fun trading the markets around turkey day

>>56274052
>Spengler
The Ghostbusters guy?

>>56273944
update i just sharted myself fuck
cancel all orders

>>56274059
policies are not liquidity.

...you're not the TLT bull are you?

How is your health Anons? Remember when you were younger and had no health problems? What use is money, if you can't take it with you? I'd give up my 200K savings / investments to go back a decade for sure.

>>56274068
Oswald Spengler, predicted the end of the west 100 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpof96pVx-c

>>56274069
Please stop posting fake images of my secret mistress.

>>56274018
>prove your points
dig into these topics on your own leisure, do your own research
>bank balance sheets being hurt by withdrawal of deposits
(and all the reasons associated with these withdrawals)
>bank balance sheets being hurt by 60% decreases in commercial real estate
(and the leveraged loans they made on commercial real estate with the investing principle / total 100% belief that commercial real estate could never go down in value)
>bank balance sheets being hurt by decrease in bond prices (bond losses)
>regional bank downgrades
>regional bank liquidity crisis
>refinancing / bond issuance for regional banks
there are over 4,000 banks
1,000 banks would just be 25%

Yeah I'm thinkin' it's only up from here, uranium bros

Retirement at 14 years and falling by the day. Fat pension collecting starts at age 54 and doesn't stop till I die. Then course my 401k and divvy stocks + if it's still a thing, S.S. Fuck I'm ready. To just kick back,watch, and let the kids fuck it all up worse while I just shrug and go on.

>>56274078
Sorry, I was being cheeky. Anyway, in my opinion, no, he's not anywhere strong enough to be that class of person. Well, assuming Seneca and those guys were accurate in their writings.

>>56274080
don't forget record low personal savings and record high delinquencies for non-top100 bank credit. It's the little banks that are most at risk. Maybe they had to give credit to uncreditworthy individuals because they couldn't compete with bigger banks any other way?

>>56274092
>>56273549
>der eternal boomer

>>56274079
no. lizzie is mine.

How do I confirm a payment someone made to me without having access to my bank account?

>>56273584
After the initial drop, the market tried to pump it back up from the last projected support line, but that failed as it hit a wall on the way up. Since the price could not beat the open of the initial drop, it stagnated half way through the rise. Essentially it barted and eventually dropped below the last projected support line (marked as the last orange line). This shows alot of bearish momentum, especially since it could not close back above that support. I expect another drop tomorrow unless of course some good news comes out or alot of bulls decide to buy.

>>56274110
>You will live to see man made horrors that make you coom your brains out

>>56274110
YOWZA!

he caused this

>>56274116
TEA LEAVES

Jesus fucking christ I'm outta /smg/. The bears can have their echo chamber extension of pol. Thanks a lot you absolute faggots, you ruined a good thing.

>>56274127
based petty incel singlehandedly causing the great crash of 23/24 with his anger and sorrow alone

just wanted to let you guysknow that i did not switch to a public hotspot to ruin it for everyone and i will take the ban like a champ
scarlet witch will return

>>56274108
I fucking hate Boomers so much it's unreal.

>>56273539
Rates are returning to normal, the market has finally healed

>>56273906
>reminds me
like you were actually there...

>>56274132
bye TLT bull, please capitulate soon. I don't want you to hold all the way down. Be smarter than the others.

>>56274100
I agree. We will probably just have decades long chaos and upheaval.
Inflation, racial strive, economic crashes, impoverishment,
1960-70s on steroids.

>>56273933
ur ta is autistic in a way I appreciate

>>56274141
Wouldn't that be a funny prank if all these "eve of 2008" metrics actually meant everything healed after 15 years?

>>56274132
> I'm outta /smg/
One can only hope

>>56274102
>>56274080
yes that too, also
>bank exposure to underwater auto loans
(where the vehicle is worth less than the loan)
>increase in defaults / delinquencies across all forms of credit

>>56274132
umad lol no free lunch

>>56273998
cute

>>56273914
>Oil
>Tobacco
>Weapons
>Gambling
>Any other based industries?
Mining
Alcoholic beverages
Railways
Banks

>>56273914
Look up sin/vice ETFs.

>-5.95% over the last month
>HOLY CRAP ITS THE BIG ONE ITS GONNA CRASH 80% FROM HERE!

GOD I WANT LAUREN BOEBERT TO DRAIN ME

>>56274172
>(where the vehicle is worth less than the loan)
ahem akshually that's called negative equity or deficit *adjust glasses*
>increase in defaults / delinquencies across all forms of credit
this is actually not looking like a terrible problem for the top 100 banks (and the top100 + non-top100 aggregated total banking sector) just yet considering total delinquencies are coming up from basically all time lows and well below GFC and pre-GFC. But the non-top100 banks have delinquencies at record highs. Funny how that works, goes to show just how many deposits and how much credit is in those top100 banks.

but of course, things can change very quickly...

>>56274214

I've been living under a complete rock since I pulled out of the crypto-market in 2022. I checked binance.us today and realized isn't accepting USD anymore since last June?!?! I was looking to maybe start investing slowly in anticipation for the halving next year, but now not sure what to do. What exchange should I look towards moving to?

>>56274189
Basically this. Maybe add royalties on top. Are utilities and pipelines based?

>>56274214
>>56274218
she mid af bro

>>56274224

>>56274238
>He hasn't seen the theater IR footage

>>56274238
please don't reply to me ever again homosexuals.

>>56273904
I think its owed to ourselves and foreign countries, the dollar itself is backed by the feds assets (treasuries and mortgage securities) so in essence the dollar is backed by your future taxes and homes

>>56274224
I recommend NYSE and TSX, but don't be in a hurry. Things are getting rocky in the markets. Enjoy the show.

>>56274217
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/7d0a5f81-209a-4611-9910-ad3a577aa18a

>>56274080
>>56274102
>>56274172
>>56274217
>>56274264

>>56274160
Demark Indicators TA is the most autistic of them all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We-xxv2eOdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXbaF-on2zY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfyAqGvqgKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5PuTzDimNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vw24Yku0Vk

>>56274264
Oh shit boys 2 for 1 used cars soon.

>>56274292
>>56274264
bearish for automakers perhaps? Good ones to short?

>>56274224
buddy Binance got banned by the SEC

>>56274300
Probably Ford because the now have a likely multibillion dollar recall of their shitty ecoboost engines .

>>56274301
Yeah no shit. My question is what other exchanges there are to move over to.

>>56274307
thing is I think that one has already the most publicity and maybe it's priced in compared to peers? Idk never bought automakers so I don't know the sector well

>futures

>>56273849
>Lmao there is absolutely no realistic situation where the US government is in a DEBT CRISIS. Who do they owe it to?? Hahahaha what's the value of the money based on? Boomer era paradigms don't matter at all anymore, get with it
Why, that's correct. That *is* Fed Chair Krugman's first speech.

>>56274319
desu I have no idea I'm just assmad all these companies are going to small displacement turbo engines and I'm finally being proven right about my opinion.

>>56274323
What the fuck did I just watch

>>56274323
almost perfect. to bad the son is a fag.

>>56274311
Wrong place to ask this. We're /smg/ so you'll need to ask the rest of /biz/ for advice here, but the only major one left is Coinbase.

FYI, I only trade through crypto miners up and down because the act like leveraged nasdaq+bitcoin combined like in 2020-2021 when MARA when 100x. If you use margin and options then you can imagine how wild you can leverage that up.

>>56274334
two dumb bimbos who can't into math, and the shota son who fucks them every day

>>56274323
so that means the mom had her at 13, thats disgusting

>>56274236
>>56273914
RICK

Elon bought twitter for 44 billion its value is sub ten billion. Based hebrews cashed out milking that african

>>56274323
Wtf are those shoes

What just happened to the 10 year treasury notes?

>>56274376
Source?

>>56274390
BOJ called. They want their currency back.

>>56274390
This probably:
>>56273867

>>56274397
>Bodge

Bond futures are quiet.

...too quiet.

>>56274393
https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/elon-musks-x-is-black-hole-value-2023-10-03/
Author suggested actual value of 8 billion.

>>56274347
>Wrong place to ask this. We're /smg/ so you'll need to ask the rest of /biz/ for advice here,
Theres no crypto general so I thought I'd ask here because its not worth its own thread. I'll revive my coinbase account.

>>56274162
Rates are supposed to be around 4-6% in a healthy economy

>>56274224
Coinbase (ticker: COIN).

The nigers are stealing all the oil

>>56274417
>there is no crypto general so I came to one of the only three generals on this board that are not about crypto to ask my crypto-related question
bearish for COIN

>>56274418
But how does the market support P/E ratios of 24, while you can get 5% interest "risk free" in bonds?

>>56274431
not my fault you morons can make a crypto general to help cut down on the sea of nonsense on here

>>56274438
make your own, it's a free board

>>56274417
BTW, if you're one of those types that are scared of centralization and getting rugged by world governments or bad faith SBF types then get into Decentralized Exchanges then you could try Uniswap.

>>56274431
kek

>>56274438
The rest of /biz/ is the crypto general

>>56274412
Japan just woke up, give them a few hours to process what happened

>>56274437
by some random hype future stock doing 1000% every 3 years

Is it possible to make a living just from buying the meme stocks that this general shills?

>>56274466
no, but I think you could make a living by shorting them

>>56274437
Here is your answer
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WALCL

>>56274427
Are those our Nigers or Russia's Nigers?

>>56274458
I thought they lived at work

>>56274458
All eyes on Japan, agreed. Let’s see what the yen does

cramer has just gone bearish on his show
>we will keep buying and losing money for our trust

>>56274508
looks like a dead cat bounce is on the menu then. Market has to inverse Cramer before resuming meltdown.

>>56274437
Knock out a few 300 p/e stocks and that will come back down. You don't own 300 p/e stocks do you anon? Surely that would be irresponsible

>>56274456
desu /smg/ was made to keep the stock guys in a containment area. We are the nonsense that /biz/ doesn't want

>>56274438
>The rest of /biz/ is the crypto general
indeed

>>56274504
Some team at the BoJ definitely pulled an all nighter with that move. BoJ is why we’ve been tanking the past two days. They keep dumping US 10 year bonds that no one wants and jacking up the 10 year yield

>>56274529
Once in a while I check page 1 and see an interesting thread about the economy or business stuff (not stock or crypto specific). So there's the occasional gem out there

>>56274549
which ironically is causing the dollar strength (liquidity crunch), and as a result the yen keeps lagging. Is how I perceive this

>>56273616
A lot of comfy warehouse jobs are hiring

>>56274549
Technically it's the ministry of finance that's fucking around with the yen. And man, what a slamdown from 150 that was this morning.

>>56274567
>>56273616
do not work in a warehouse it is hell may as well get a job out at a remote open pit mine at least those pay enough to get out

>>56274458
>>56274507

I'm watching the increased volatility in the Korean Won in response to the Yen (keep track of the USDKRW and CNYKRW)

>>56274549
>>56274576
And you might say "that's insane. Why is the BoJ in charge of their bond market and their *totally separate finance ministry* in charge of the currency?" and the answer is "Japan."

>>56274582

b-b-b-b
b-b-b-baaay
b-b-b-baking
wow, what a great audience

>>56274582
Korea soon to join Japan in US treasury dumpening?

>>56274582
I always thought that if China or Japan were to dump us treasuries (more China) than it's technically a de facto act of war

Me and my wife just wanted to pop in and dab on all of you plebs. Hope everyone is doing well.

Holy fuck, did anyone check on solar?
>ARRY: -8.50%
>FSLR: -3.26%
>TAN: -3.72%

>>56274648
Thanks, I'm not

is now a bad time to buy some 3 month treasury bills? i've never bought t bills before, but i have 5k and don't want to put it into stocks and i understand that CDs are more heavily taxed than t bills. try as i might i have a really hard time understanding bonds and t bills, but my general understanding is that rates are ~4-5%, which doesn't seem so bad.

>>56274597
>>56274611
South Korea is a big exporting nation and usually their export data leads turns in global economic cycles. What I suspect is that there's less international demand for goods and thus softer demand for Korean Won needed to buy their products.

Before this week the weaker Yen matched the weakness in the Won so Japan could still CONSOOM more samsung trash. But now the Won is really outpacing the Yen and US Dollar in weakness so I think you should brace yourselves.

>>56274636
The 3rd largest buyer of our paper (Saudis) haven't been buying US Treasuries either and they've been telling off Biden since the start of his term. Technically everyone is in a cold war against the USD since we rugged Russia out of the USD based banking system.

>>56274666
Glad.to see you're still here poem anon. You're probably the only anon in this general that if I visited you I wouldn't take your bussy. That's pretty rare for me. I just like you.

>>56274669
Better off to just buy an ultrashort ETF like SGOV.

Same return but you can take out your money whenever and it will keep up with any rate changes.

>>56274669
Nah, you sound like you don't know much so sticking with something you can't hurt yourself with is a good move. T-bills fit the bill.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/ -> Buy shit -> Remember that the payout is 5% *per year*, so in 3 months you'll get back $5050 or whatever to roll over.

>>56274110
I don’t know what’s real anymore.

>>56274689
I'm still posting poems too. Even wrote a couple new ones last week
I'll have even more time to think of new stock poems now that I've been laid off
You should do more update videos, so it's not just me creating quality OC
(I do not consider AI image spam "quality OC")

>>56274669
also, buying them from treasurydirect is confusing.
is there any harm in buying VSGH instead?

>>56274656
I took a short position on FSLR at open today. Feels great, comfy short

>>56273616
I was in your position once. This is the time of year that warehouses hire any wagies with a pulse to pick orders for the holiday shopping season.

>>56274700
>>56274702
appreciate the input fellas
sounds like it's generally not a bad investment choice
i'm leaning towards an ETF for simplicity

>>56274700
Yeah something like SGOV is ok but you could just stick it in a money market fund (if your broker has a good rate)

>>56274702
>>56274669
or just get a 4 week T-bill and roll that over every month

>Us10y-Us02y uninverting

Wat do?

>>56274733
Take profits and short. It is not any more complicated than that.

>>56274412
Pepe the frog, look out behind you!

>>56274740
That's actually just a shelf

>>56274733
Can read this https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bearsteepener.asp

Otherwise >>56274739 is right.

God I love dividends

>>56274733
closed our your longs, because we're headed for a 12 month bear market at least. Dont be like the other baggies buying the top

>>56274681
>>56274611
>>56274597

Oh and here comes some more Japan and Korean data over the next hour

>Futures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkX2NAKFM5Q

>>56274739
>>56274745
So I should sell eveyrthing I have that that's green and go all in SQQQ?

>>56274755
Let's see where we're going.

my only concern about closing longs / shorting is that the crash is almost too obvious. am i over thinking it? and the other thing is that i think a sizeable number of people are still sitting on cash to buy a dip. otherwise, yeah, everything has been screaming "CRASH" for months, and especially lately. but it's almost too obvious, so i'm skeptical..

>>56274763
Do not go all in. Keep cash on hand and avoid leveraged shit. Things might get very volatile for the next say 6 months. Just my 2c

>>56274755
>Jap PMIs come in cold -> recession -> lower yields -> USDJPY spikes -> DXY spikes
>Jap PMIs come in hot -> inflation -> JGB yields rise -> capital flight -> UST yields rise to chase
Are we just fucked here?

Took me years to understand that this is literally the only chart you need to make money in stonks

>>56274739
Not that guy but would it be a dumb idea to start buying those vice stocks/etfs?

>>56273777
I'm mad nobody checked this

>>56274776
I have a lot of cash, and most of my investments are in long long term stuff that I hopefully won't touch for years
But for my fun account... I've done alright with QLD, but I'm running out of time to get out with a profit if everything keeps sliding

>>56274763
QQQ still has the fortress stocks known as the Magnificent Seven (formerly FAGTMAN).

For more pure yield fuckery consider: TMV, HYG puts, DRV, KRE puts, FAZ, BNKD, or straight up SRTY (small caps don't have the cash or loan buffers to handle 5% rates much less 6% ones)

>>56274780
My understanding is that in a liquidity crisis, anything with a bid gets sold. Gold, equities, even derivatives. I am going to keep a large cash position until equity prices scream out in pain and crab afterwards

>>56274766
THIS IS THE POINT

BEARS ARE DESPERATE

>>56274711
dont bother with t.d., buy BIL or VSGH if that's similar

>>56274766
It is not going to be a steady slide down. Expect volatility.

Fuck it I'm liquidating my portfolio and using whatever's left to DCA into Washington State Lottery scratch off tickets

>>56274824
Lmfao

>>56274311
If you're okay with KYC then probably Kraken or Gemini. I've used both and currently still use the latter.

>>56274834
nothing moves up or down in a straight line.

Mildly positive. Mumus are desperate.

>Higher for longer

Boys we need graphical representation for this meme worthy phrase. I don’t expect you to work tonight but by tomorrow open we need some flashy text. Little zip a little zap, then maybe we can wake these figgers up.

Tried to tell you fags a vix spike was coming. (check archives) Feeling comfy collecting almost 5% in my savings account.

>>56274868
Yes, I remember that. Well done

Do not drink 2 gallons of beer. Thank me later.

>>56274889
Too late. Thanks anyways.

God you idiots were saying the EXACT SAME SHIT last year, how the fuck are you not realizing this??

Today I became a BRK baggie. I'm never gonna make it.

>>56274868
>>56274873
i also remember that. specifically someone calling out VIX of 30. If that was you, and you're still hoping for that and are positioned correctly, then good luck to you.
i just moved 5k to my TD account. thinking about buying some 1x short sp500 or nasdaq for first time. i'm "new" to this.

>been cash for almost 2 years now

>>56274905
the same people never bought. they're waiting for cheapies. they won't get them though, at least not what they want. then they'll sit on the sidelines for another 5-10 years predicting a crash.

>>56274903
Same the foam is up my throat about to vomit again i need to get up at 7am tomorrow.
>t yurofag.

>>56274356
What stock do I buy to impregnate a 13 year old

>>56274908
Nope, just said chart was primed for a pop and said something along the lines of UVXY looking like an 18 yo virgin with her legs spread wide open.

>>56274929
>>56274929
>>56274929
>>56274929

>>56273943
This has to be a troll. You're absolutely retarded if you genuinely believe it fell due to climate change.

>>56274908
>thinking about buying some 1x short sp500 or nasdaq for first time.
See >>56274798
SRTY looks really good.

Via handy divvy calculator even if VZ's share price does nothing for the next 30 years (right in time to take the 401k RMD), long as those divvy hikes keep rolling out at 1.9% every year I'll get $69,350.00 annual income. + my pension + uh my 401k RMD + my other divvy stocks income. (Uh which frankly I'll be living off my pension income so the rest of it is just "play money", a shat pot of play money at that cause that 401k money alone will outlast me)

>>56274912
Me as well. It wasn’t smart, but I need good data to play the market and there is no good data. The only decent data points to me getting into leveraged inverse ETFs.

>>56274914
After going through the covid crash and watching the outcome trust me mate, it ain't gonna be difficult timing the bottom and it won't be hard to get rich after jumping in it. The only losers here are the longs still contributing to their 401ks or roths those fuckers are gonna get blasted but they are pretty much the human equivalent of a golem so they don't have anything better to do in their lives but consume and work so like good cattle they'll keep pumping.

>>56274956
Divy fags can tongue my asshole. Savings accounts pay 5% while your gay ass divy stocks lose 10% but deposit 5 shekels in your good goy account.

>>56274905
Everyone knew it’s not when the inversion occurs but when the uninversion occurs. That’s happening now with Us10y spiking up. The only ones predicting recession and crash were the msm talking heads for daytime drama.

>>56274966
>it ain't gonna be difficult timing the bottom and it won't be hard to get rich after jumping in it
you sound like a retarded pleb

>>56274905
STOP NOTICING!

>>56275003
U mad baggie? You're gonna be much madder later and the irony is you'll still vote red or blue thinking it's gonna make a difference like the good golem you are

>>56274059
>the market has infinite liquidity and people will buy t-bills in perpetuity no matter what

Nigga you have no room to call others retarded stop fucking trolling

>>56274908
Buy a mar/jun24 qqq put, closed your charts and come back to profit next year.

>>56274889
Hope is wasn't bud light you could die of water poisoning

>>56274889
>bro drank ~17lbs worth of fluid in a night
Damn are okay anon ? Is your fucking liver ?

>>56275039
Nobody likes trannys and faggots. We simply don't care, so we gave them too much rope. Everyone that isn't retarded can see clearly the jewish connection behind each cataclysm.

>>56274889
21 beers in a night is insane. Even at my most degenerate I could maybe go through a 12 pack if I made sure to start at like 3pm.