/biz/ - Business & Finance

I'm actually up $11, including fees, and I'm having a great time trading biotech this month

>BUY MY BONDS, YOU UNGRATEFUL GOYIM!

>unsustainable debt levels, auto, student, credit, personal, mortgage
>extreme housing bubble, all time high 30%+ income on housing
>consumer is broke, no savings by October
>inflation is spiking higher, no more base effects
>interest rates higher for longer; more zombie company failures, lower growth, more bank failures if 10yr approaches 4.5%
>complete collapse in global trade, each month countries report doing 10% less exports from the previous month
>China recession
>EU recession
>dollar rising
>earnings collapse for 3 consecutive quarters
>1.73 standard deviations wilshire 5k ratio; 50% more bubble than dotcom peak
>**20x forward multiple** on S&P500 earnings (this is very expensive, going into a recession)
>earnings margin collapse, profit margin collapse market wide three consecutive quarters
>only in nominal terms are things "rosy"
>spiking delinquencies / defaults on all forms of credit
>new housing construction falling during strong summer months, in spite of strong demand
>more corporate bankruptcies this year than any other previous by this time of year
>yield curve inversion + uninversion in future
>130% debt to GDP
>$1 trillion in debt service
>other nations dropping dollars for trade, petrodollar is kill
>PMI / ISM collapse
>new orders / backlog of orders collapse
>commodity prices rising sharply (inflationary)
>consumer is kill, and will be even more kill in the Autumn
>crowding out effect from Janet Yellen issuance backlog
>Japan ending / lifting YCC, carry trade unwind
>ECB more dovish = dollar rise
>yields rising
>all time high paycheck to paycheck before student loan repayment resumes
>underwater autoloans
>collapsing commercial real estate value 60%+ value haircuts
>deposit outflows, commercial real estate collapse, inverted yield curve crushing banks - solvency banking crisis looms
>EU PMI collapse
>Fed liquidity vs S&P500 divergence
>US credit downgrade
>smart money vs dumb money divergence
>US regional bank downgrades

Captain, your orders sir!?

anon if you don't stop the firesale I'm never buying from you again

>>56272059
So you be sayin?!

>>56272059
>Known knowns
If you know it, they know it. The current fair market value is the sum of all public and private knowledge. The current prices take all of that into consideration. Say it with me:

P R I C E D I N
R
I
C
E
D

PLEASE BOUNCE BEFORE I LOSE MY LIFESAVINGS

HAH, IS THAT ALL BOBO?

Gayed predicted this

>>56272062
Relax, this is the time to get your hot potatoes hands ready and buy calls is all

>>56271974
>in retrospect, the writing was on the wall
This is the room that mumu has been in for years. He just has refused to read the walls.

>>56272085
The market is pretty gayed

>>56272071
I did this to my wife so hard it gave her a bruise. Her coworkers thought it was funny although one was shocked that somebody would do that

>>56272085
so what's the play?

>>56272059

That's it. My pension is gone. My children's college funds are gone. I'll have to remortgage my house and downsize.

Is what boomers probably thought during the last major crash. Good thing I have nothing to lose. A cheeky little 40% drawdown ain't shit.

i smell another bounce, too many people have gone bearish too quickly

Sell it all. Today.

>>56272099
>Good thing I have nothing to lose
Yeah because it sounds like you already fucking lost it

What a perfect day for my Roth contribution to hit! Brick by brick I’m building a financial castle

>>56272097
ammo and foodstuff

closed my SPY puts at a 1200$ profit, and closed my QQQ puts at a 400$ loss. now to do this everyday until i find a job again

>>56272112
based

>>56272062
My orders are to send this stinking fucking economy to the bottom of the atlantic. No survivors. Sick of footing the bill for Third world migrants and niggers

>>56272110
I guess I'll just keep DCAing into robust stocks like O, MSFT, and V.

>>56272097
find a broker gf

BUDDY CHECK CRYPTO MINER COMPUTER

>>56272112
Hey how's that working out so far? I mean how many years have you been building on this.
I really want to get into dividends but have trouble picking a horse.

>>56272071
What episode of the most extreme was this?

>>56272112
HOLY BOOMER PORTFOLIO! kek get wrecked wagie

>portfolio down 3.5% today
>got laid off
>cut myself shaving
well... what a morning

>>56272098
you sound upset

It's just money

>>56272059
Based bear thesis enunciator anon

>>56272112
Anon, if only you knew how bad things will become.

>>56272102
we were supposed to bounce on monday from the good news and yet where we are.

>>56272139
Don't forget to apply aftershave to patch up those cuts and help clean and heal the skin! For me, its Johnson & Johnson products (ticker: JNJ)

>>56272085
And the cat who calls him a cumlord beheemed himself by calling for lower yields

>>56272062
>Short EIRL. Into the ground.

>>56272139
No severance?

>>56272112
>he thinks he's gonna make it by DCA boomervesting

I'm seeing a little nibbling going on.

>>56272112

>Schiff doomposting in the OP
And they say each SMG is the worst one ever.
I think we've broken the cycle, this is going to be the best SMG.
Also looks like we'll beach 5% on the 10 year by Thusday, God willing.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2004/11/1/full-transcript-of-bin-ladins-speech

>>56272154
oh no, this is the kind of bounce we got last week starting wednesday afternoon. no news just technical bottoms. low prices brings out sellers until you run out and have to rally to recharge. the animal spirits are running wild you just have to feel it

>>56272093
>one was shocked that somebody could do that
ftfy anon. also congrats very nice

the age of bear has come, we will never get a green day ever again

>>56272131
And yet GBTC is green on the day. The magic of trading 25% below NAV.

>>56272158
I bought some aftershave, but it was giving me acne so I had to stop. I'm back to just using moisturizer now. I have NickSticks to stop the bleeding, but the area is still red and burned...
>>56272171
Not sure yet, waiting for that document to arrive. I already applied for UI
Might just put whatever I have left into either TQQQ calls or puts, not sure yet.

buy buy buy

>>56272180
Who would have thought that the future would be instantaneously AI-generated poignant caricatures on 20 year old, outdated imageboards.

>>56272112
based divifriend

Who's going to be the next speaker of the house? I got my money on a black woman of color. Niggers are so dumb that you are actually encouraged to reiterate yourself when you're virtue signaling to them.

>>56272198
How hard would it be to find a new job in your field? I hope you have saved enough for a few years, anon-kun.

>>56272108

Looking at scalping 421 calls if we could stab down and hit 419.99 like we need to

>>56272222
wasted

>>56272222
It's... not easy, but shouldn't be too bad. I'm a software engineer. I have enough saved to last me a year and a half, and that's just in cash. If I start liquidating my portfolio, I can go almost 5 years. More probably if I switch to eating ramen exclusively

Bottom is in

>>56272046
Is anyone really surprised that the markets are tanking the first Monday after federal student loans repayments restarted. Most people were barely getting by as it was. This is going to be a catastrophe

>>56272222
mega-bearish quints

it's healing

>>56272208
It's the duality of man, a synthesis of the arts. The past is the thesis and the future is the antithesis. Only then do we arrive at the current modernity

Will the market go down even more if a recession is confirmed or has that already been priced in at this point?

Rolling for circuit breakers

>>56272266
AAAAAAAAH

it's OVER

>he thinks we go down
>he thinks we go up
hahaha

>>56272264
I spent $200 on a hedge at the start of the year, expecting 240 by December. I'll probably roll it forward, but paying $200/year for 10:1 insurance in a crash seems pretty good

Folks we are experiencing the Joepocalypse and it's a good thing.

>What time do bears hibernate?

>While not all animals hibernate, it is common for bears to do so. Most bears, including the males, hibernate during the winter. This is from October or November until April or when the snow starts melting.

>>56272247
>>56272256
You jinxing fools, that was merely short covering!

>>56272108
Already sold out two weeks ago.

NVAX short squeeze?

>>56272297
Why would they cover when there's still room to fall

>>56272112
>microsoft
indian company, prepare for diarrhea

>>56272243
>software engineer
Damn, good luck bro. Frugalmaxx and respec into security certification.

NVAX niggas, what was that?

I'm losing SO MUCH FUCKING money today, it's not even funny.

>>56272266
Rolling

>>56272318
Successful clinical trials for their vaccine against ligma.

>>56272132
Coming up on my first year and it’s extremely comfy. Don’t sleep on low yield high divvy growth companies like MSFT, v, and COST. Yield on cost is a hell of a drug

>>56272336
what's clinical trials?

>>56272344
steve jobs' balls haha

>>56272344
Clincal trials deez nuts
gottem

>>56272344
Clinical trials my balls hahha gottem

>>56272322
AI makes weird dice

>>56272320
My crypto bags are not even at break even. You have no idea how bad it is. my calls are still in green

be careful around 422 mumus

>Accidentally made a position 10% of my portfolio instead of 3%
>It's massively green

>>56272087
Based
>>56272062
Cringe

>>56272387
you should probably reduce it.

>october is always bullish

This market is a joke.

>>56272385
you have to zoom out enough so we can call you out on your lines if you're going to give warnings

>>56272256
based Sterre poster, saved

>>56272398
Losers average losers. And winners average winners.

>>56272320
I’m down 68k today. Not great.

>>56272402
Mr. Market has a cruel sense of humor, and the punchline isn't even close yet

>>56272402
Imagining some perversion of an almanac is supposed to enlighten you in commerce. Poor mumus

Just got home: what no news caused this dump continuation? Closing the 420blazeit gap?

>>56272421
Well, didja learn anything? Blow through your stops or is this just a buy-on-dip opportunity?

My wheat gains (even despite buying before the dump) are to great for me to care about my temporary PYPL losses.

>>56272421
In one day? What do you have 7 figures or what?

>>56272428
Higher high, uninversion confirmed: >>56272276

>>56272428
Yesterday the SP493 dumped and the SP7 was green. Today SP7 bagholders dumped, which sent the entire SP500 down.

>>56272421
Yikes. You could have bought north of 100 shares if costco with that. Your financial future is crumbling

>>56272415
Yeah but everybody loses eventually, and what's the point of even winning if you're not going to enjoy it?

>>56272430
TMF and TNA. As long as bonds keep rising I’m fucked. We have to be near the top now though, right? Right!

>>56272428
JOLTS report came in showing there’s no shortage of jobs. USD to Yen then blew past 150, so BoJ intervened and dumped a bunch of old shitty bonds onto the market to defend the Yen. The 10 year skyrocketed, so here we are

>>56272443
Obviously not anymore

>>56272443
Not sure if he's the guy with the +250k who probably bought in 2021 and could have sold in July, but didn't. And it's 3x lev, so kiss that money goodbye if we crab downwards.

>>56272452
>SP493
>SP7
Why does it have to be this way? Surely these statistically minded people see a problem with that distribution.
>JK I know they dgaf

Is this bad?

>>56272415
>>56272461
remember when Jimmy Buffet had to sell all his airlines at a loss, and died before they even made a full recovery

>>56272452
Ohh was that it it ? I was leaning more towards monetary policy and not bagholder sentiment. Why don’t the bag holders just buy more ?

WTF you guys lied to me!
you said that nobody cared about yields!

>>56272482

short JPM

>>56272482
it basically marks the beginning of a face-ripping bear market over the next 2-4 quarters

AVTX

>>56272491
Is that the bank they'll sacrifice this time?

>>56272461
It's the christian dogma of suffering, isn't it? We suffer in this life.

>>56272468
If one of a dozen F.E.D. governors haven't said shit, then your only short term relief looks to be the Jap ministry of finance. And you can see what their intervention at USDJPY 150 this morning did - approximately fuck all.

Maybe TLT gets some relief at headlines of 5% on the 10 or 30 years, but if I remember right IWM is cracking down through support and is completely fucked.

Ahhh 3 o’clock. Time to hit the road. What a comfortable dividend stock buying day.

>>56272085
You guys will jump between "bonds are oversold!!!" to "bonds aren't even halfway to the bottom yet!!!" at the drop of a hat, literally within ten minutes you will be telling me the opposite.

Fact is the bond market is retarded and nobody knows where it is going, especially with shit like the Bank of Japan selling off US treasury bonds to keep the Yen up, how can you even predict that shit?

>>56272288
>he doesn't know global warming is shifting wintermonths

>>56272482
Depends on if you are Jewish or not. If not, then yes, everything that happens will be bad for you

>>56272483
His brother Warren took over, it's all gucci. And speaking of airlines, wow, look at the resilience of SAVE. You'd think it'd crack as JBLU gets heemed but I guess not.

>>56272506
By looking at the USD/JPY and knowing the possibilities/mechanisms

>>56272484
Oh yeah I mean I'm sure there were reasons for the dump. But I don't know, I base my strategy on horoscopes.

>>56272491
BAC and C seem juicier. Or BRBS.

>>56272499
Hebrew bank needs correction. Thinks it can hold better than the rest.

>>56272506
The trend has been set now and it's not going to change.

>>56272506
>how can you even predict that shit?
brother, where have you been for literally YEARS - the writing has been on the wall, we've seen it over and over, they've communicated defending the yen, communicated defending YCC, and the methods by which they would do it have been well understood for literally years
bonds are oversold right now, on a very short term basis, based on technical indicators - this doesn't mean that they can't sell off more, and become even more oversold
there is default risk, there is inflation risk with yields going much higher - where people say "not halfway to the bottom yet"
governments worldwide are selling US debt

>>56272532
They moved down a lot already, JPM's turn now

>>56272506
WTF I thought bonds were the smart and connected people?

>GS: -4.01%
OK, now Powell will step in.

>>56272502
What I find weird is how if I’m hurting, real money is dying. The 52 trillion bond market must be getting raped. How did nobody but Bill Ackman see this comming.

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>>56272046
lol peter schiff

it will implode any day now. any day

>>56272482

When it hits zero its actually over. Yield curve inversion = recession is coming. Yield curve un-inversion = bankers out of windows.

>>56272556
EVERYBODY SAW IT COMING
WE HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU FOR YEARS
YOU JUST HAVE NOT BEEN LISTENING
for fuck's sake, even the yield curve has been inverted since July '22

>>56272549
If you get a yield you're satisfied with and hold them to maturity, sure. If you want to trade them, then it's like any other shitflinging marketplace.

The market thanks you for your donation.

>>56272537
I see the yield curve uninverting. But what I can't tell is, if the 20 and especially the 20 will go above the 2year in % or if the 2y will come down a little after a specific point.

>>56272556
The single greatest financial scam of the 21st century was simple false advertising: attaching the phrase "risk free" to US treasury bonds.

>>56272562
Just off by a few years

we have to bounce eventually, r-right?

>>56272569
Mr. Market's wild ride never ends.

>>56272590
Yes. In yields. Up to 5%.

>>56272568
Just wait until he learns about the Hebrew calendar and financial astrology

>>56272568
A inverted yield curve occurs from everyone jumping into bonds dropping the price. It’s the opposite of what you are implying.

>>56272571
>
Fuck, sorry, I'm sick currently. I meant
>especially the 10, since the 10 is still lower way lower than the 2y

>>56272570
Cool it with the antisemitism

How many more months will we have to deal with AI image spam?

>>56272590
How does 380 spy sound?

>>56272572
Exactly. I knew they were not risk free but the amount of price variability surprised the fuck out of me. Thought bonds were boring, not down 18% in a year material.

BUDDY CHECK OUT VIX COMPUTER
>>56272627
TWO WEEKS

How greedy should I get with my CCs? I'm up 45% at the moment. How much more can we dump?

>>56272627
probably a good 6-8 weeks
remember when chat-gpt came out and we had anons just non-stop posting their "chats" with the stockbroker bot they "made"
equally as annoying, died after 6-8 weeks too.

Also I did a divination. I was consciously imagining The Magician and it was the first card I drew.
Anyways, reversed Magician and 5 swords can humility, degradation, and disgrace. 8 swords can indicate bad news or conflict, queen swords indicates female sadness and embarrassment, and 3 cups is dispatch, achievement, or end
Given the wider context it seems that a woman somewhere will fuck up or act as a top signal and the market will unwind. Whether this is something like Cathy Woods having to rebalance her funds or Yellen's policies fucking shit up, hard to call. But I'm keeping my eye on >women

>>56272046
How often to rebalance?

>>56272639
>>56272642
>>56272627
Somebody asked the same about memes years ago.

-2%

>>56272554
GS got nailed in the wake of the global financial crisis from a culture standpoint. They aren't what they used to be. They used to be the place everyone graduating from Penn would strive to go to, but then it became very "diverse" and all of that talent redirected into hedge funds and other buy side firms. The commies managed to get that one more than anyone would think.

>>56272627
The ride never ends

>>56272635
Literally a "it's not a loss until you sell :)" deal. Problem is when people buy bond ETFs or bond proxies like O.

OH YEAH YEAH YEAH
LET IT BREAKTHROUGH LET IT BREAKTHROUGH

>>56272657
Don't forget Lagarde at the ECB. Maybe she'll pee herself on stage or something.

>>56272680
>>56272635
>>56272572
They are "risk free" if you buy them and hold them until maturity. That is, if you don't resell them, you don't need to worry about convexity, market value, etc, you just collect your coupons and deposit when it matures.
You still have currency risk, systemic risk, inflation risk, and (quite unlikely) counterparty risk

>>56272452
>SP7 bagholders dumped
Still outperformed SP493 given the usual beta

TLT 85 is holding.

>>56272700
>(quite unlikely) counterparty risk

>>56272692
Funnily enough, my friend absolutely loves Fear & Hunger, which features a not-Griffith (Berserk) expy named Le'Garde, so that name has significance to me.
Since Legarde is the president of the ECB, this tells me that I need to short european finance or keep an eye on her.
Thanks, schizofrens

>US 10-year treasuries are yielding more than Shitalian 10-year treasuries were yielding this morning
I could hardly overstate the extent to which we are fucked

>>56272046
Can somebody just tell me with 100% accuracy when and what rate the 20 year bonds will peak this business cycle. I’m not asking for much.

>>56272720
TOTAL
TREASURY
DEATH

>>56272590

October is bullish they said so probably ,two more weeks

>>56272718
I fucking love schizo heuristics.

>>56272657
"This card represents the importance of making judgments without relying on emotion alone. The Queen of Swords beckons you to look at all the facts before making a decision. This queen does have compassion, which is why she has her hand reaching outwards in offering, but she wants to connect to people using an understanding that is intellectual."

"When you obtain the Magician reversed, it might mean its time for you to implement some changes. While right side up, the Magician represents true power, the reversed Magician is a master of illusion. The magic that he performs is one of deception and trickery. You may be lured in by the showmanship of his arts, but behind that there may be an intention to manipulate for selfish gain. Getting this card might mean that there is someone who pretends to have your best interests at hand when the opposite is true. "


to me it reads Mr Market is hiding something and the tomboy queen is telling you to go on a journey to find the Truth.

>>56272731
The 20 year? Who gives a fuck about the 20 year?

>>56272627

>>56272046
I should have bought more Palantir puts holy shit

I told you stupid fucks that the bond market would crash a year and a half ago, leading to a debt crisis, but you didn't listen.

wait is it happening right now?

why are there so many smgs at the top of the catalog with way more than 300 replies?? how am i supposed to invest like this??

>>56272731
Just buy GME, the SQUIZZLE hasn't even begun yet

>>56272753
few understand this

should I sell my PSQ and put it all into DRN

>>56272760
What's prompt did you use for this?

>>56272627
lel, I just remembered I've had /^1024x1024$/;boards:biz in my filters for months so all the Dall-E 3 spam is invisible to me

>>56272759
Welcome to market chaos.

reminder that the S&P 500 has not had a quarterly bearish crossover in the Price Momentum Oscillator since 2007. The time before that was 2001.

>>56272627
technically until it's no longer noticable

>>56272749
https://youtu.be/DzCoEyFqb1k?si=0vOy9k5dJlUAaGdG

>>56272766
DRN is only if you know for certain that yields have peaked. I wouldn't touch it until Powell announces a surprise press conference.

>>56272780
this time its diferent. this time we're direct registering our treasuries to short squeeze the fed directly

>>56272771
GME bagholders constantly losing money in the stock market, red items everywhere

>>56272774
People overdo it for about a week as a Shiny New Thing is rolled out, but AI art does allow for amusing expression.

DRV FUCKING PRINTING!

Gentlemen, I believe it is time to sell everything

>>56272820
kek

>>56272756
what do you think niggy?

>>56272808
Why is the whole stock market GME?

pump

>>56272821
Fuckin animals and their signs.

STOP SELLING THE AMERICAN ECONOMY

I still don't even know what bonds are but I like posting here

I hate to bring up something from last thread but not only did I roll trips, nobody checked it: >>56272000

Also SOXL is about to die.

>>56272744
I'm just using the insert that comes with the Rider-Waite tarot deck and adding some personal interpretation. Really, there's no one objective way to do it, and that's just what works for me

>FHLB 7.05% 10/24/2033 Callable
activates the noggin

>>56272833
Shiiiieeeeeeet

>>56272814
I know, I unironically coom to my gens lmao, which financially speaking is bullish for NVDA

Pic rel, my AI female broker

>>56272058
I already pay taxes. What the fuck more do you want?

>>56272834
Idk

Just woke up
What the FUCK did you do to the market???

>>56272859
She's gonna require 30% of your 401k be parked in treasuries.

>>56272837
Lol what’s he doing?!

>>56272627
people who complain about ai art are unironic leftists

what's the chance of a bulltrap bounce tomorrow? thinkin bout buyin some s&p calls

Some of you are alright. Don't go on /smg/ tomorrow.

What happens when this runs out?

>>56272889
>what's the chance of a bulltrap bounce tomorrow? thinkin bout buyin some s&p calls

it's fucking over isn't it, time to sell and never touch the stock market again

>>56272889
thats how i felt yesterday about gme

>what's the chance of a bulltrap bounce tomorrow? thinkin bout buyin some s&p calls

>>56272901
noo bby im still long uvxy don't worry

>>56272883
All right. I like to drop by until something beyond retarded is muttered and I get sad how far this place has fallen since 2017. Till next time.

>>56272904
>TFW you can't buy when there's blood in the streets, because you had to sell yours

>>56272896
Basically next august

>>56272889
Let's catch some knives together fren

NVAX. Lol.

>>56272921
fucking retard

TTOO. Lol.

>>56272845
no comeback? How soon is the death spiral coming?

Bear here. We will unironically repump in a week with CPI. It will come in softer than august or as soft and the market will do a retarded 180. This til December when November CPI comes in.

>>56272922
did it tqqq 35.5 yolo. s&p futures dont look good tho prob crab tomorrow

>>56272858
I understand AI is expensive computationally, but how many chips does it burn thru? how hot does is run?

even if it does run hot and chews thru chips like candy, what new customers are you getting? Its not like phones and computers aren't at or near the saturation point. Only a few extreme edge case people need 2 phones.
I don't see where the market grows here.
Even if you're a newspaper guy who survived, and needs articles churned. you're firing 10+ people ez before this is viable implementation. to Nvidia thats net minus 8 chips sold in the best case scenario.

>>56272904
>>56272922

I slurped some UTSL

>>56272059
Thanks. Buying.

US TREASURY SECRETARY YELLEN: HIGHER FOR LONGER RATES IS BY NO MEANS A GIVEN.

>>56272974
bottom wont be till spy hits 200 but feel free to try to catch the knife

Well I guess the Wells Fargo guy who jumped was onto something

>>56272954
I hope so, I could use a little help jere

>>56272954
SANTA RALLY

>>56272981
LMAOOOO

>>56272954
I'm thinking November (October CPI figures) is gonna be the bearish surprise
https://wolfstreet.com/2023/08/10/a-word-about-the-odious-ridiculous-massive-adjustments-to-health-insurance-cpi-which-now-collapsed-to-jan-2019-levels/

this won't sustain. Just a correction. I'm buying calls. ezclap

>>56272981
lol bull cope and bear fud for months to come. That bitch has never had a "value add" day in her life.

>>56272981
PLZ BUY MY BAGS DADDY JEROME. JEWS PLEASE HELP THE TREASURY IS DONE FOR

>>56272954
I'm on the same page. I think we need one more pump to trap more retail before a bigger move down sometime in Q1 2024.

See you then!

>>56272963
it's less that it wears out the silicon(which is rarely a thing btw) and more that the current growth is the ability to use more powerful hardware. so older hardware becomes economically obselete since it can't do the new bigger better thing. eventually code will be refactored and it'll correct but till then most of the way to make better models is bigger badder hardware

eventually something will come along that blows nvda out of the water like asics did with mining but until then they're king of the hill

probably wont be for weeks now that I sold all my shorts... but there is a dead cat coming. and it will be euphoric... then it DIE DIES

>Expect A MAJOR BANK TO FAIL...
>Extreme Market Risk (MMRI)
>Audit The Fed!

>>56272963
>how hot does is run?
I use a 70 watt GPU (RTX A2000, basically an underclocked RTX 3060) so it's not so bad

This is legitimately some of the dumbest red of the last couple years. At least you faggots had stuff like muh war and muh rate hikes last year. Now it's....... Job openings?? Lmao could you make it any more obvious that this is the bottom?

Come on where are my fellow doubters?? I can't be the only one who thinks this is absurd

>>56273010
>bigger move down sometime in Q1 2024.

lmao even..

>>56272981
Maybe she shouldn't issue so many bonds.

>>56272999 (checked)
>420.69
Nice

>>56272987
You may be right; that's not unreasonable. As a general rule: if you can't survive a 50% drawdown, you shouldn't be in equities.

>>56273032

But it's october, it will be 1987 all over again

>>56273032
Higher. For. Longer.

>>56272981
lol yellen doesn't determine the value of bonds aside from setting coupon rates. Free market decides what they will bid.

Fiscal dominance. Get use to it.

What could actually cause this market to go up? Anything?? I don't see it.

Since when can't you ctrl + c ctrl + v images into the reply box directly from your clipboard on Chrome anymore?

>>56273062
What caused it to go down? Anything?? I don't see it.

>>56273062
Bottom signal.

>>56273032
Counter bottom signal.

You know whats going to be funny? When all indices pump 3% tomorrow after forgetting why they dumped today! Goldfish brain market will save mumus

I’m selling my bussy to the highest smg bidder
Rights4life

Feel the market groove, lads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lMmnfVylEE

>>56273086
then back to our regularly scheduled entertainment

>>56273081
Since 4chan-X is disabled on your current install for some reason

>>56273062
bullish

>>56273089
I bid at 1 Vietnamese dong

>>56273098
Oh so it was the extension doing it? I moved to a different setup and forgot to install it.

>>56273084
Perfect, thank you.

>>56273121

>>56273119
Yep

>>56273037
>oh look we got one of those "soft landing" "this time is different" badasses here!

Thanks for being my exit liquidity!

>>56273059
Wasn't she just in Chicago? Now they are asking UN peacekeepers to go there because it's so dangerous. Does (((she))) just destroy everything she touches or what?

vix is still high im prob gonna get rekt tomorrow nvm

>>56272537
yeah hindsight is 20/20, why didn't you make millions shorting bond prices knowing Japan was going to flood the market imminently? if you aren't up big on your genius prediction I don't want to hear it. so easy to say how obvious it is after it happens.

>>56273022
I get that but that isn't growth so much as fast forward 2 cycles. but what is the cost of cannibalization?

Ding ding ding! How did it go today anon?

>>56273182
-1.3%

>>56272188
checked. The distinction you were making literally finally hit me after 2 hours. No wonder I suck at trading

LMAO EVEN

>>56273182
+2.3%
based ally puts but now I mention them while the markets closed the jews will liquidate me.

>>56273182
About -3%.

>>56273086
I might buy some calls myself

>>56273193
-.34 but made some nice buys (dividends)

Is there any use in timing this shit

As far as i see it could crash anytime between now and 2 more weeks

Should i just sell a part to be "safe"

>>56273182
breddy gud. +4.8%

>>56273182
Well at least I'm not 100% in LPG, let me tell ya.

>>56273171
no real cost. the gains are selling the next round of investment or expensive cloud rentals. as for the hardware itself they're probably sitting on a shelf or being sold 2nd hand on ebay. cuda isn't just for tensorflow

>>56273162
see
>>56199454

>>56273215
buy month puts on securities with solid market exposure but low iv

>>56273086
Or crabtomorrow andthurday+friday pump like last week.

>>56273182
newer higher ATH, +421% YTD

>>56273215
There is never any sense timing this shit, I'm waiting in cash for an obvious breakdown before I take any more significant positions, I've been eating shit for over a week at this point, all my gains from the past year vanished in like a month.

>>56273182
OSTK did precisely 0%.
So 0%

>>56273082
This. Everything started dumping for two months on August 1st because of a bullshit surprise politically motivated credit downgrade. All bullshit after that.

>>56273182
-3.11% and I lost my job

>>56273182
-.47%

>>56273270
Look up "QRA". That was the reason for the sell off and the downgrade.

>>56273286
Would you like payday loan sir?

>>56273270
No
It was set in motion far before that
It was inevitable that rest of the world would go into recession faster than US (US stronger economy)
when other nations go into recession, and wave white flag on inflation prioritizing economy over inflation, they are less hawkish in monetary policy, their bonds are less attractive, both their economic weakness and lower yields (and lower expectations on future yields) makes their currencies weaker, forcing dollar higher
What caused the exact top in the summer was ECB waving this flag, and suddenly the dollar shorts were fucked. It was inevitable, but priced as if it wasn't
Look at how the dollar has moved for the last several months

>>56273182
Man it's just rude of you to be asking that at this point.

>>56273250
>>56273240
>>56273215
>Not using (((their))) calendar to time the markets

Gregorian chuds are NGMI

Imagine not being all in DRV right now... losers.

>>56273317
So you meant to ell me the market is going to Sukkot shit until next week? lame.

>>56273303
No not yet

Elections have consequences. This is what we get for voting for the GoP in the 2022 election.

URNM to $0 by next month

>>56273250
>all my gains from the past year vanished in like a month

Are you gambling your whole account on options?

Uh so what happens when the US debt starts spiraling out of control with these yields? How does this not end in either ball crushing austerity, default, or hyperinflation as the only options?

>>56273304
Nah. The US stock market is overly bearish, even the S&P has hit oversold on the ONE YEAR chart which is utterly retarded. This time last year the same thing happened and bears were completely caught off guard when there was a six month pump, because their thesis is doomer nothingburger bullshit.

>>56273407
Well we could start by slashing the federal budget, and raising taxes on everybody making more than $600 at a time.

>>56273357
it isn't as much as you think, my gains this year have been minimal, still feels very bleak lately. I literally would have made more money with a savings account this year.

>>56273182
we have fun n*gga
i have gray pubes now tho

>>56273336
This is what we get for your kind taking over the world

>>56273407
Hyperinflation-> bullmarket -> get a second term -> rebuild ukraine

>>56273441
Why should we invest money in rebuilding Russian territory? Shouldn't we let China handle that?

>>56273432
> n*gga
It’s either nigger or nothing at all. Have some self respect

>>56273407
>ball crushing austerity, default, or hyperinflation
You're right: those are the only options. And, in fact, we'll get to enjoy all three.

>>56273456
>Why should we
>we

you have no saying in it, they will just do it

>>56273423
We could, but that would assume a broadly rational political system capable of long-term planning.
Instead we're going to get ball crushing austerity, default, or hyperinflation.

Imagine not buying DRV After Hours at this price for the doom collapse this week...

>>56273490
FUCKING LOADED SON!

>>56273490
>>56273497
Based DRVer.

Looks like they're going to take the gavel away from McCuck.

>>56273478
You have to expel the Russians from the territory first, or the Russians will just shoot the contractors you send in to rebuild everything.

>>56273520
>>56273520
>>56273520

>>56273407
Theres a needle threading case here. our boomers are just a tad older and more defunct than our Chinese counterparts. and theres a lot more of them. Thing is they're 10 years behind our boomers.
all we need is to last till around 2030, at which point half our boomers are dead, and china's are reaching full pensions. This is assuming our millenials are competant enough to hold the reigns. US has more millenials than anyone else.

assuming the chinese don't have super boomers that are particularly resiliant to old age. or the US millenials aren't grossly incompetant. US should be full bore into tearing down the vestigial bits, and the chinese will have their cancers at full bloat. at that point maybe we can get some fucking raw material out of the fucking ground so some motherfuckers can make it into some good non chinese shit. and we can dig ourselves out of this fucking debt dogma.dkhpvr

>>56272470
>there’s no shortage of jobs
how much more psyops can we take?

>>56272578
Schiff is such a boomer it hurts. He's so fixated on his shiny pieces of metal that he completely forgot about Gresham's law.

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