/biz/ - Business & Finance

this is all done using ccip kek

>>56267567
POC doesn’t mean jack shit

its funny how this shit is overlooked lmao

>>56267567
CCIP is doing everything, it's insane, just watched SK telecom show what they'll use CCIP for and now watching these roundable guys using CCIP to make a creditcard for your crypto

>>56267567
>>56267576
>>56267580
how does this bring value to the token?

>>56267578
kek fuddie

>>56267584
It's something to talk about on /biz/ and Twitter until the next shill talking point that doesn't move the price drops next week.

>>56267582
>creditcard for your crypto
lol, useless

>>56267567
I think it'll take a while for all these news to filter through to the crypto community and for realization to click, Link is going to be the number 1 crypto it's so obvious

>>56267584
>>56267596
keep seething fuddy, all paid in link

>>56267567
popo is my new favorite trip fag

>>56267606
i'm not able to make money off of test net tokens. So how does this bring value back to the token?

>>56267591
Nooo my Waltonchain and VeChain bags! We had RFID! We had partnerships! Partnerships!

>>56267606
Wow! I'll be sure to "pay up" the very next time I'm swapping pikachufart tokens for shibu2bogaloo tokens between jeet and turk chains.

>>56267567
>wasnt this all of cryptos wet dreams like from 2017 to 2010?
>it's becoming a reality
yes this is better than the most optimistic scenarios for adoption thought in the early days
nobody expected mass institutional adoption this soon
and yet price -5%
clown world will clown i suppose

>>56267567
>another partnership with multinational megacorportations
Yawn. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. The only thing that will ever be able to change the price is real staking. I'll just wait to buy when that happens and in the meantime I'll be flipping shitcoins to increase my capital.

>>56267603
>Link is going to be the number 1 crypto it's so obvious
meanwhile lets take a look at the top twatter crypto thought leaders

>>56267567
What is this product? Cargo deliveries?

>>56267606
Answer his question
How does it translate to value?

>>56267638
yawn right?
show me 1 crypto project other than chainlinkbwith serious institutions sitting at the table and working on products.
we are talking crypto here you dumb nigger, there is no project in this whole space wjo deserve more support and praise than chainlink.
you can always invest in your niggercumfartinu shitcoins or xrp or qnt the parkinglot dwellers

>>56267567
Fuddies are despondent and worried they will stop getting replies

>>56267675
Partnership with McDonald's. The team eats there twice a day. That's a type of partnership, right!?!

>>56267700
i don't even understand the fud at this point like, chainlink IS working with all these institutions and are actually deliveri g. they are expanding their product to encapsulate more usecases, and they arnt scammers. so why the fud?

>>56267868
because its the easiest way to get attention on this board

>>56267868
Anon, you're wasting your time trying to reason with these fags. Just ignore them altogether.

>>56267868
>i don't even understand the fud
Let me help:
chart

>>56267584
Are you retarded, or just pretending?

>>56267897
what is the strategy to buying this token that makes me money?

>>56267884

is that it? you're mad because we only did x20 since ico instead of x600?
linkies dont really give a shit,
1. because most of us were in the presale and or in before sibos 2017
2. even those who came late and are barely broken even know exactly in what they are invested and will vontinue slowly accumulating
3. those ghat came super late, after 2019 sure they are down bad but so are 99% of all of crypto, thzy shouldnt blame link specifically, they should blame themselves for being tards and buying the top of a bullrun and two be grateful to atleast have a stack of link, because link has a brught future, instead of being whiney little bitches and try to ruin it even more for themselves by slowing down adoption by retail, they should know that fud only enrages latefags who are in the red, not every linky before 2019

>>56267914
Good summary

>>56267692
>cheaper gas paid in link
>token needed
>demand for token skyrockets
>value generated
Wow

>>56267868
They multiply POCs, where is the demande for the token so the price pump?
>inb4 others dont sneed it
They do, reason ethereum demed is driven by gas use.

>>56267951
you are looking at the fruition of years of collab and talks between link and institutions and actual things being done, with money involved and teams of devs across multiple huge corpos, this isnt a sticker on a skateboard or a parkinglot interview, this is all real and tengible and only chainlink does it in this space

>>56267567
>wasnt this all of cryptos wet dreams like from 2017 to 2020?
Yes.

>>56267578
PoCs are the most meaningful real-world adoption crypto today has.
And Chainlink has the absolute biggest PoCs out there.

>>56267967
nothing is being done except for sales demo's you get that right? so im going to ask again, when will the value be brought back to the token and token holders?

>>56267977
they dont understand that crypto is a new tech, and crypto still needs to be adopted globally, crypro as a whole.
so vorpos are building poc to test how ceypro can be integrated , and in all those pocs chainlink is mandatory. this shows that the whole worlds economy will rely on chainlink in the future, all of this is extremely exciting, and best thing is, its real, not lies by vcs or tricks by scammer ceos

>>56267999
Projects like these lead to increased usage, and increased usage leads to greater demand for the token.
Viola and checked.

>>56268010
not off of POC's and test nets. So when?

>>56267567
Sergey has been MKultra’d. I’m not joking
>Slack jawed during keynote
>Saying “sure” “makes sense” every single sentence (sentences used to make sure he’s still under mind control)
>Dead eyes and no emotion when applause was given last keynote
>Started talking about AI when last year’s fireside he was skeptical of it (Eric is mind controlling him)
>“it’s a race” and “good luck” might be Sergeys mind control keywords used by Eric

Sergey has been kingmade, and by kingmade I mean neutralized as a threat to TPTB like many other celebrities and politicians.

Also, maybe Ari Juels is the real mastermind behind it all and Sergey is just a puppet? Ari seems cunning and has a rapey vibe. I think he’d get along with Schmidt pretty well

Also, OP. Your username “popo” literally means shit

>>56268013
PoCs precede actual adoption.
And they also generate demand in and of themselves through speculative interest.

>>56268027
do you know what a POC is?

>>56268029
Great question, anon. You should be proud

>>56268031
so you dont?

>>56268029
>>56268034
Nothing better to do, bro?

>>56268041
im seething that i gave the fat ass my money and the only thing hes come up with this whole time is pilot programs and POC(they are glorified sales pitches)
t. gov contractor so i know all about what a poc is and means

>>56268029
People of color

>>56268054
Nobody in crypto today has anything better.
And we all know what pocs are.

>>56268054
you make it sound like any faggot in crypto can just come and do a poc with swift, dtcc, euroclear, anz, vodafon, microsoft, google...
a poc is not a sales pitch, pocs costs millions of $ to implement and they require actual involvment from many parties.

you are mad at chainlink, but what other alternative in crypto is better to invest in?

all of crypro except link is just a sack of scammers and liars

>>56268083
What was the announcement you were hinting pre smartcon?

>>56268083
>t.tripfag on an anon board
okay

i have a poc that i send out everytime my contract liaison needs documentation that he can send up to uppers to look over again. You dont know what the fuck you're talking about

>>56268102
>what
you're a level 2 linky, i think im gonna make a meme explaining the 5 levels of linkies

>>56268093
>>>56261022

>>56268109
we cant even have a conversation because you dont even know how what dealing with these types of organizations are like

>>56268124
you have a big ego dont you?

>>56268126
thats your opinion

>>56268123
Fair

>>56268019
>fuddie tries hard to make the new headcanon fantasy copypasta he just shat out stick, but he can't and he copes and seethes
you are absolutely buck broken and defeated, god we do enjoy watching you squirm, keep at it kek

>>56267567
/biz/ doesn't care about real useful projects, either you post boobs or a shitcoin that promises 100x return in a week, or you won't attract their attention

don't waste your time, pearls before swine, etc etc

>>56268174
>$7.50

Nuff said

>>56268102
You can’t “send” a proof of concept what the fuck are you even talking about? The proof of concept either exists or it doesn’t. Maybe you send a pdf outlining the proof of concept of a link to where someone can see the results of the proof of concept but then all you’re pointing out is that you are some low level sales wagie sending decks to people and don’t even understand the process of how your deck came to be.

A proof of concept takes a lot of work. It is basically a full product development to the point of MVP. It’s to PROVE a concept works. You can’t do that without lots of time and money and resources.

And I say this as someone tired of the poc’s but you’re just an idiot.

>>56268199
im not going to argue with you on what i do for a living. you ignorant dolt

>>56267946
>-8%
Man you sure got me

>>56268257
Zoom out. But not too much heh.

>>56268102
>i have a poc that i send out
Yeah bro, I send out pocs all the time too.

Just yesterday my client was all like “hey did you send that poc out yet?”
And I was like “You haven’t received that poc yet?”
And he was like “No”
And then I sent it out again and then he got it.
Pocs, man. I tell ya.

>>56267618
The days when a sticker on a bottle of wine caused 200% pumps.

>>56268247
>t. Sales wagie extraordinaire

>>56267914
How many coins do you have and when did you buy? I want to calculate the enormous loss due to being in cult

>>56268313
i think hes confusing proof of concept with commercial proposition

>>56268406
only gains i bought in 2017 like 80% of my stack, my dca is around 34 cents

>>56268102
>i have a poc that i send out everytime my contract liaison needs documentation that he can send up to uppers to look over again.
HAHAHAHAHA

>>56268435
kek i know

>>56267967
There is nothing tangible, that's the fucking point, it's all proof of concept shit we've been seeing over the last 6 years.
Tangible shit is CCIP mainnet, true DON open to everyone and staking v1.0 so the network can actually grow organically.

Imagine if Ethereum was still just banks dabbling with smart-contract PoC on testnet and there was 0 dapps on the network and you couldn't run a node without asking Vitalik. That's Chainlink right now.

>>56268492
>Imagine if Ethereum was still just banks dabbling with smart-contract PoC
It is.
That and Defi, which Chainlink also dominates.

>>56268492
It doesnt make to do that comparison. This is an entirely different type of system.

>>56268083
>swift, dtcc, euroclear, anz, vodafon, microsoft, google...
Give me a single, A SINGLE heavy use dapp made by one of these companies on Ethereum over the last 8 years. Were AAVE, Uniswap, Maker, Compound done by any of these big names?

It's time to wake the fuck up, it's not 2017 anymore, big name on a powerpoint don't mean shit and don't bring value to token holders (who have been waiting since ICO to stake btw). Ironically the ONLY actual concrete news of the conference that will drive use is X (an anonymous dev) telling they will use the high frequency oracles for GMX.

When I bought LINK I thought it would be a new Ethereum, instead it's the same centralized bullshit as Ripple with schizo ramblings about institutions opening the valve anytime now. We've seen SWIFT on slides in 2017 and it's still on slides in 2023 (soon 2024).

I'm so tired of being led around with this bullshit.

>>56267606
>>56267897
So do you don't know, awesome...

>>56268612
>When I bought LINK I thought it would be a new Ethereum
Ethereum never had anything close to Chainlink's legacy institutional collaborations and interest.

And as for crypto adoption, Chainlink probably outstrips ETH.

>>56268612
>It's time to wake the fuck up, it's not 2017 anymore, big name on a powerpoint don't mean shit and don't bring value to token holders
It's so funny how people can say this and not realize that Chainlink has always been operating under this notion. From the start they have only been interested in building something real, tangible and industry disrupting. While doing so, more and more big names pop up which is just a natural effect of the network growing. Meanwhile, brainlets who are (ironically enough) stuck in 2017 themselves, accuse Chainlink of being stuck in 2017 because they have an ever increasing number of big partners attached to the project. Hilarious.

>>56268664
>Ethereum never had anything close to Chainlink's legacy institutional collaborations and interest.
How new are you?

>And as for crypto adoption, Chainlink probably outstrips ETH.
You are delusional, worthless to exchange with you.

>>56268739
You are the only brainlet here.

>>56268870
>worthless to exchange with you.
how's the weather in mumbai

>>56268899
>everyone I don't like is a streetshitter
How is raw is your mom's pussy after yesterday night?

>>56268870
>How new are you?
The EEA was nothing compared to what Chainlink is doing.
Chainlink has more partners, AND they're bigger, AND they're actually doing concrete things.

Compare that with the extremely loosely committed "members" of the EEA who have barely touched ETH since.

>You are delusional
Chainlink provides the vast majority of Defi services on ETH, and they're on all the other chains too.

>>56268936
>The EEA was nothing compared to what Chainlink is doing.
this
the EEA is fucking nothing compared to what chainlink is doing
chainlink is the biggest thing to happen to crypto since BTC was invented, and i'm tired of pretending it's not

>>56268899
>how's the weather in mumbai
monsoon season. think sweat pissing from you when you leave the hotel and the dirt and fumes collecting on your sweat such that when you wipe your arm, you can see the dirt come off. I won't even talk about the smell

>>56269008
That said, i love India and can't wait to go back. Mumbai is pretty intense though

>>56268916
Kek look at this sandnigger chimping out at being calles a sandnigger. You DO really feel inferior huh

>>56268972
And yet, link is below $8 and ethereum above $1000. Curious, isn’t it?

>>56267905
>>56268625
look, i'd rather you missed out entirely. so if you don't know, i'm certainly not going to tell you.

but we both know you hold link.

>>56269051
Not to mention eth went from $1 to $1000 in a year. Linkies are brainfucked so hard by cognitive dissonance

>>56269051
and here you are suggesting that's rational. if enough people are as retarded as you, then guess what? so is the market.

>>56269074
>look, i'd rather you missed out entirely.
It’s been 6 years bro

>>56269097
6 years for a 12x ain't bad. it's nothing compared to the PnDs endemic to the rest of crypto, but literally all of crypto dies if CLL fails to meet its goals. thankfully, most of it will die anyway.

>>56269074
he said it here >>56268054

>>56269118
>6 years for a 12x ain't bad.
It’s really bad for crypto. I know boomer stocks with better gains than that. Just two more weeks amirite?

>>56269201
see>>56269095

>>56269078
They all have Stockholm syndrome

>>56269095
Good marketing = increase in price. That’s not retarded, it’s reality. Don’t like it? Go complain to Sirgay, as if he’d listen to link holders KEK! You wish he was like Vitalik, pumping the price for his beloved supporters

>>56268109
>>56268199
>>56268313
>>56268435
ask me how i know what im saying is correct.
>>56268381
so thanks for agreeing that i know what im talking about.
>>56268492
these people really have a mental illness. Just look at how the retards at the conferences are treating sergey and ari. These cucks are paying for their lifestyles while also going out of their way paying for their lunch

>>56269277
>>56269288
Wtf? Checked and truthpilled!

>>56269288
>these people really have a mental illness
Way to insult yourself.

>>56269288
>ask me how i know what im saying is correct.
I know why you think are under the impression you are correct, it's not hard to imagine. It's because you have first hand experience of what a PoC entails in your day to day life. Which is to say, that of a lowly office drone. It's very amusing that you think the term entails the same across the board.

>>56269273
>it’s the market’s fault my shitcoin isn’t pumping!
Guess what? Even if what you say is true, your shitcoin still isn’t pumping. In fact it’s dumping right now kek

>>56268513
>That and Defi, which Chainlink also dominates
yah and link holders had to pay for all of it while getting none of the benefits are you fucking stupid?
>>56269323
you have to try harder to bait more info about my day to faggot.

so again. When will value rotate to the token?

>>56269288
back to work, sales wagie
gotta get that commission

>>56269346
>you have to try harder to bait more info about my day to faggot.
I have absolutely 0 interest in whatever wagie job you do. The fact that you think a document outlining some simple proof of concept is the same as a working PoC on the scale of banks x CCIP tells me more than enough. This has been years in the making, dunning kruger anon.

>>56268612
>banks MUST develop a new platform for me to swap my cumniggerinu tokens or else there's no adoption
Sell your tokens you fucking retard and then promptly kill yourself

>>56268102
>I send poc all the time!
Don't forget to tighten up the graphics on level 3 kek

>>56269444
checked and thispilled

>>56269444
Choke on my balls Zach, I bet you will love it you little queer.

>>56269442
>This has been years in the making
yah so we are here to make money. Where is the token value?

>>56269525
Where's the token value in Bitcoin and Ethereum?

>>56269525
>muh token value
I am as stumped as you are anon. If I weren't all in already I would buy more, the speculative values these PoCs bring is incalculable. I think the rest of the crypto space is crazy for not pouring in.

>>56269545
It's there because it's respectively worth 50 and 100 times more than LINK.

>>56269545
gee lets think. I can send BTC around with out my transaction being sandwiched and with finality.
Eth is a dapp and shitcoin factory so there is alue there.
And there is chainlink, Poc's and gated "mainnet" that no one can use, btw if they let retail use right now would accrue some type of value. I could bridge my shitcoins off of arb and not wait two fucking weeks

>>56269595
>I can send BTC around
How does that make the price go up?

>>56269608
you tell me

>>56269621
You're the one asking where the value is in the Link token.
You should be able to tell me where the value is in the Bitcoin coin.

>>56267694
>show me 1 crypto project other than chainlinkbwith serious institutions sitting at the table and working on products.
hedera.

>>56267672
To be fair, crypto "thought leaders" are a bunch of brainlets. Bankless podcast proved this.

>>56269635
kek, you dont even know how to form an opinion on your own. I already know your line of logic. You're just going to criticize anything i say even though its correct.

>>56267672
>omg im so important and so busy let me make a gay tweet about it
pathetic

>>56269656
You asked where the value was in the Link token, so just show us what you mean by telling us where the value is in the Bitcoin coin.

>>56267578

They're moving on to MVP per Nasdaq TradeTalks post-Smartcon interview

>>56269656
>You're just going to criticize anything i say even though its correct.
talk about projection

always funny filtering 3 or 4 obvious fuddies right at the start and having 90% of the thread disappear, sorry just not gonna read fud posts without immediately filtering and definitely not giving any (you)'s hahahaha sorry

>>56269707
based, you deserves yous for dis

so what is this demo anyways?
I see 'vessel progress', 'cargo temp', and 'bill of lading'
but then the destination and source is retarded, e.g. 'Ethereum Sepolia' and 'Arbitrum Goerli'

>>56267613
When this gets adapted in 10 years in a decade like Sergey says

>>56269810
Source?

>>56267567
>Vodafone, Sumitomo, Innowave, and Chainlink
Oh ok. But don't forget
>Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Limited
(ANZ), BNP Paribas, BNY Mellon, Citi, Clearstream, Euroclear, Lloyds Banking
Group, SIX Digital Exchange (SDX), and The Depository Trust & Clearing
Corporation (DTCC)
though...

>>56269857
anon
This doesn't bring value to the token or token holders

>>56269873
How can you say that when you don't even know how Bitcoin brings value to its coin or coin holders?

>>56269873
>19pbtid
get a life moran

>>56267567
Literally any other coin would moon 200% off this news

>>56269707
based and howdypilled

>>56269789
realized you can drop map to get better context
>https://chainlink-pi.vercel.app/
it's talking about someone wanting to buy machine parts in different countries
why would these businesses be using these random shitcoins for settlement?
and the demo has really nothing to do with the 'stuff' being transported, it's just cross border settlement
so the demo doesn't really do anything and what it's supposed to represent is also basically nothing
you guys are great at marketing though
really thought there was maybe something significant going on this time

>>56269935
btw this is the poc that everyone is bullish on, a demo

>>56269882
Bitcoin bring value because it’s the OG crypto and whales pump it to cash out fiat.

Who pumps link? No one. Even Sergey dumps it.

>>56267576
I have uncovered something disturbing.

>>56269967
>it’s the OG crypto
It's not.

>whales pump it to cash out fiat
Because it has value.

Tell me why it has value, but this time without saying "because it has value" like some kind of idiot.

>>56269955
Hahahahaha

>>56270006
>It's not.
It is

>Tell me why it has value
I’m not here to spoonfeed retards like you, I’m here to make fun of you.

>$7.50

Kek

>>56267694
BSV. Craig owns all the link patents. Seethe

>>56270026
>It is
No, it's not.

>I’m not here to spoonfeed retards like you
Then why did you try to spoonfeed me here: >>56269967

>>56270042
Yep it is.

>Then why did you try to spoonfeed me here
Because I felt pity for you broke ass for a brief moment. Now that you’d understand anything about empathy. NIGGER.

>>56270065
You're the second faggot nigger kike fuddie to fail miserably at explaining why Bitcoin has value.

>>56270104
>nigger baits to be spoonfed
Cute, if anything

>>56270153
Maybe don't ask what gives the Link token value if you have no idea how Bitcoin has value.

>>56270179
>Maybe don't ask what gives the Link token value if you have no idea how Bitcoin has value.
Is this really the power of the nigger brain? Kek, go steal some iphones or something

>>56270104
you just dont get it and any attempt would result in you disagreeing

Fudders are going all out, really hope they're getting paid for their efforts.

>>56270104
He told you and you refused to accept the response. I agree with the conclusion being that you’re a male of elevated melanin levels (nigger).

>>56270104
>reeeee why bitcoin big number and link not reeeeeeee
linkies are the definition of mindbroken losers

>>56270288
it has value because it has value, DUH

>>56270248
>any attempt would result in you disagreeing
You made an attempt when you said "because I can send it back and forth", and I didn't disagree in the slightest, I merely asked you why that ability gives Bitcoin value.

>>56270288
>He told you
He told me "it has value because it has value".

>>56270296
>>56270299
Pathetic samefag

>>56270299
you disregarded the part where i said there is finality in that. that answer is not something you excepted, and anything other then the answer you want triggers you to call someone stupid.

>>56270299
so you don't see any value in transacting globally on an immutable ledger, and not a single government, bank, federal agency around the world can do anything about it?
but you see value in an unproven altcoin that hasn't been able to deliver anything tangible for 6 years and counting?
kek, the definition of a retard

>>56270323
>there is finality in that
How does "finality" give it value?

>>56270329
>so you don't see any value in transacting globally on an immutable ledger
You have truly bad reading comprehension.

>>56270366
and you truly are terrible at articulating and engaging in any sort of meaningful discussion

>>56270392
>terrible at articulating
lol
I literally said "I didn't disagree in the slightest".

>>56268612
best post itt

>an unproven altcoin that hasn't been able to deliver anything tangible for 6 years and counting?
Please ignore the price feeds which have so far prevented the kind of failures non-Chainlinked DeFi services have lost billions of dollars to. Kek fuddies, did Sergey eat your lunch or something?

>ITT: Fuddies can't into explaining their argument without ad homs, sophistry or circular logic.
Lol, lmao even.

>>56270329
That is not being contested. How does that give the Bitcoin coin value though?

>>56269789
You can check the presentation here
>https://smartcon.chain.link/video-on-demand/interoperability-in-global-trade-using-ccip-a-joint-poc-with-vodafone-sumitomo-innowave-and-chainlink

>>56270447
The main difference is that XRP is a better investment and it’s in place 5, whereas link can’t even get to the top 10 and regularly drops out of the top 20

>>56270468
>Please ignore the price feeds which have so far prevented the kind of failures non-Chainlinked DeFi services have lost billions of dollars to

Nice. Let’s check the price.

$7.57

Thanks for subsidizing the crypto space cucks

>>56270480
I will actively ignore you because you’re a samefag nigger

>>56267584
ok link sisters, but seriously, what is our response? i know.. ugh i know.. hahaha.. but seriously

>>56268664
This

>>56268739
This

>>56268870

Here's the thing: Ethereum can't scale. Chainlink solved the scaling issue. So now companies can use it. All attempts at using ETH for real world irl FAILED nigger. Disagree? Go start using ETH for your personal projects and/or business. Good luck asking ppl to transact for 100's of dollars per tx. Thick fuck. There is no way around this, Chainlink is not more efficient in all ways.

ETH is an outdated settlement layer. A good start. Chainlink makes Smart Contracts and the Verifiable Web a viable product for global institutional grade use cases.

>>56270507
>I will actively ignore you because you’re a samefag nigger
I didn't even reply to you, are you samefagging anon?

>>56270513
As someone who worked in blockchain for a number of years, I can say this anon is correct but I'll also add that ETH has zero practical use cases for a business quite literally because it's not connected to anything of value. NFTs and DeFi casinos are not valuable to a legitimate company. This is why the L2s like MATIC also failed to onboard companies in any meaningful way.

Chainlink makes all of this garbage actually useful. They know that. They didn't have to make a "universal gas token" and force everyone to use LINK. They did it because they can. Because without them, all of this stuff is just completely useless trash.

So when you see real companies finally onboard into blockchain - finally interact with ETH, MATIC, and all these absolutely garbage NFT shitchains - it will be via Chainlink.

And that's when you will see some serious shit happen in regards to price action.

>>56270468
how do these price feeds capture value for the token?
>>56270480
dunno, go ask Blackrock, because unlike SWIFT, they are buying the coin

>>56268612
if you can't tell the difference between crypto partnerships that are nothing but an announcement and chainlink's partnerships where they go into explicit detail about exactly what they're doing you're retarded

>lies
>gets called out
>short term speculation says its bad
How much are you getting per post? I could write more engaging fud.

>>56270507
xrp has been crabbing for 5 years, it has been a shitty investment compared to ETH or BTC

>>56270572
Blackrock is looking to capitalize on volume because that's how they make their money. They literally don't give a shit about fundamentals or long term trajectories of anything they sell. They care about how MUCH of it they can sell, so they get their fees. And they care about that TODAY, not in a year or 5 or 10.

TODAY Bitcoin is responsible for the vast majority of transaction value, followed by ETH. That's why the bank leeches want ETFs for these two things. Because they want to be able to get a share of the transactions.

What do you think happens when LINK or any other shitcoin suddenly starts eating into the marketshare of ETH or Bitcoin? And by the way, it's going to eat the majority of ETH's market share.

If you think a Blackrock LINK ETF isn't coming, you are going to feel very fucking stupid.

>>56270513
Ethereum and its L2 are where 90% of all crypto transactions happen and it's valued to reflect that you delusional negro sodomite. Chainlink hasn't solved shit for now, it's still PoC talks and testnets aka words on a slide.
Current fees on L2 are around 8 cents for a simple tx you stupid nigger btw.

> Chainlink makes Smart Contracts and the Verifiable Web a viable product for global institutional grade use cases.
We can spot you away from miles with how you talk paid shills.

>>56270593
>can't list a single one
Thanks for proving my point

>>56270513
>>56270555
Good to see smartanons for a change

>>56270572
>dunno, go ask Blackrock
Alright, thanks.

So, no fuddie ITT has been able to articulate what gives the Bitcoin token value after more than an hour of discussing. I think it is thus fair to say that using "value" as an argument against the LINK token is completely moot, since they are unable to explain where such value would come from.

>>56270555
>And that's when you will see some serious shit happen in regards to price action.
I‘ve been drinking this cool aid since early 2018 hanging on to assblasters threads live at 11pm and i‘m sick to my stomach it will be another 5 years or 20

>>56270642

> current fees on L2's

Nobody uses your garbage, and nobody ever will (directly), but if they did, it would be unusable just like ETH.

>>56270642
sending eth fees is cheap but go interact with any contract, it’s expensive, there is a difference between eth transfer and smart contract execution the anon is talking about big smart contracts with corporate logic, those will cost hundreds if not thousands of dollar to execute on chain, you have no idea what ure talking about

>>56270642
>muh crypto transactions
This is why you're not getting it. Nobody who believes LINK is going to be huge cares about current crypto world which is a total fucking scamfest with practically zero innovation and mostly stewarded by sub 100 IQ snake oil salesmen who grifted VCs.

>muh NFTs
>muh dying liquidity pools
>muh shitcoin roulette
>muh locust swarm from one airdrop farm to the next

Show me crypto transactions in todays world that actually prove value for blockchain. All of the real value to be unlocked can't use these detached pieces of shit.

Do you want money and real use to flow in or do you want it to just be some darkweb scammers delight shithole that the governments of the world decide needs to go?

>90% of a 100% scam factory happens on ETH!

Who the fuck cares.

>>56268019
from now on i believe this

>>56270669
It’s all speculation driven, they talk about value on the market as opposed to fundamental value. Bitcoin and eth cannot scale and aren’t appropriate for corporate use, their only role in the future will be to be just used as settlement layers, but the complex logic will be off chain, eth and btw are just glorified temper proof databases basically.

But most of the normies and the tards that are polluting this thread only speak with their emotion, feelings and price charts, they have 0 notion of what is the real value of blockchain; they are literally hitch and Uber drivers tier, very bad to debate with them

>>56267672

He's being a faggot here but make no mistake there's only an incredibly small handful of traders on Crypto Twitter actually making money solely from trading and not by leveraging their follower base and Don Alt is one of them. He tends to know his shit.

He doesn't know anything or really care about fundamentals which makes sense as its not needed for short term leveraged trading.

>>56269707
howdy

>>56270706
>crypto isn't important, it's all scam, only my token is cool and will do REAL things with REAL big boy companies (soon, trust me bro)
Exact same garbage you read from perpetually coping HBAR and XRP bagholders. I don't give a shit about your moralfaggotry, neither does Sergey because he is funding all this shit with this supposed dirty defi/ico money and all his actual metrics of use are about this supposed "scamfest".
The cognitive delusion is unreal to justify being financially cuckolded.

>>56270596
It’s been a better investment than link

Outside of speculative price movement there are currently two concrete factors in link tokenomics: network fees and node rewards.

Node rewards behave the same way dividend stocks work. The buying pressure is in equilibrium with the payment expected such that the price of the token will increase based on how much you can earn with it through staking. Network fees act identical to gas fees. They create a base level of buying pressure for the token. In both cases, the value of the token is determined by the actual usage of the token. CCIP means that the chainlink network will capture the value inherent in cross chain activity for the whole of crypto. It will create a consistent buying pressure similar to how tokens built on ethereum created buying pressure for eth gas fees, but is not limited to just one chain. Further, it opens up crypto to non Web 3.0 entities a it creates a standardization and UI that isn’t some Byzantine process that only nerds know how to do. Like how aol opened up the internet for people who couldn’t understand irc. Which means actual adoption and increased network usage. It’s a virtuous cycle of tokenomics.

A third factor that may or may not be relevant is the possibility that partners are acquiring link tokens for their future incorporation, either direct wholesale from chainlink or through market buys.

I hope that clears up some of the confusion in this thread!

>>56270889
XRP is the exact same price it was 5 years ago lmao. LINK is up over 2000% on the same time frame.

>>56270928
>cherry-picked dates
Kek

>>56270912
This is a paid answer by a chainlink advocaca

>all these huge institutions falling for the chainlink scam
surely this will end well

>>56270912
thanks chatGPT

>>56270995
>advocaca
I'm not surprised you get paid pennies

>>56270977
You replied to someone who said that XRP has been crabbing for 5 years, and BTC and ETH have been better investments over that timeframe. You respond with:
>It’s been a better investment than link
Which is not true, since XRP was 50 cents 5 years ago and still is, while Chainlink was 30 cents 5 years ago and is now $7.
>Muh cherrypicking
>coombrained 15pbtid fudder can't even remember what he said 20 minutes ago
Kek. Many such cases.

>>56270977
Then pick another time frame lol. The only way to make money in xrp is to swing trade every time it moves up a few percent and then buy back when it inevitably drops lower. And if you’re doing this consistently you actually can make some money. But this is only possible if you understand that it absolutely will never pump again. There is no fear of missing out because it is a dead coin and you’re just skimming off more delusional schizos then yourself.

And that’s the main difference between xrp investors and others. Betting on link or bitcoin or eth means betting on crypto as a whole. The investment thesis is that this stuff actually matters and will change the global economy in the way the internet did. XRP investors think the whole thing is a scam so why not make a few bucks scamming less savvy investors. 2017 broke you people.

>>56271065
Your id is pink mine is green. I win.

>>56271062
At least I get paid unlike you baggies

>dumps 5%

>>56271138
>Betting on link or bitcoin or eth means betting on crypto as a whole.
You have multiple posters here telling you crypto is a complete scam and only LINK isn't.

>>56271138
>Then pick another time frame lol

XRP
>$0.0053 feb 28 2017
>$0.5086 today
>95.96x

LINK
>$0.11 sep 20 2017 (ICO)
>$7.45 today
>67.72x

Questions, my dear nigger brained buddy?

>>56271219
>picks 2 different timeframes instead of 1 consistent timeframe
I mean, that is actually cherrypicking lmfao

>>56271181
No, they’re being hyperbolic. We all know the majority of projects are scams or so incompetently run that they will eventually collapse. Like whatever cumcoin is currently being shilled. But that was the case with the dotcom boom as well. There is a core of real projects that matter which will survive and be the he basis of a mature crypto industry. The difference is in determining what is real and what is a scam. 2017 was a formative experience for a lot of people. Not only did they suffer financial loss, they were humiliated. They had gone around bragging about their gains, telling people they were a genius investor. Some of them quit their jobs, or alienated their friends and family, or caused their family to lose significant amounts of money. They couldn’t just dust themselves off and try again with the new understanding of the crypto market cycle. Their entire sense of self was under threat. So they decided it’s all a scam, crypto will never amount to anything, they’d never make the mistake of believing in it again. So they shill pump and dumps and swing trade xrp, and when crypto inevitably moons they will rope as surely as the normie nolinkers.

>>56271247
umm… ok?

XRP
>$0.3113 june 13 2022
>$0.5104 today
>1.6395x

LINK
>$5.87 june 13 2022
>$7.46 today
>1.2708x

>>56271315
Good. So what was your point again?

>>56271338
Read the thread lazy faggot

>>56267567
partnerships are a red flag for pyramid scheme pump and dump scams lmao, this is literally Vechain x BMW all over again

>>56271315
Imagine buying link in June 13 2022

>>56271382
That's right. You have no point.

After you've realised CCIP works, banks have used and tested it and that basically every smart anons post for 6 years has been correct there's nothing more to say. FUD used to be clever and funny. FUD now is just chart or abuse.

It doesn't matter. I've realised it's all true and proven. Unfortunately the time frame has been fucked up especially due to the wider market both in real world and crypto (ftx and endless scam coins like shin)

I'm going to continue buying and just adjust my time frame of making it. Seems the only fud that was true was the '10 year hold' let's see what the next year brings maybe the 24/25 bull will actually happen

>>56271414
Why do you think most linkers shill as hard as they do lmao. Can’t sell until they’re in the green

>>56271419
Pathetic

Fuddies out in full fucking force today. They must have received a big check.

>>56271438
Do you have the slightest clue of what would make link go up in price?

>>56271448
>Imagine buying link in June 13 2022
>Can’t sell until they’re in the green
You just showed they would be 27% in the green? Is this peak fudder intellect?

LINK
>$5.87 june 13 2022
>$7.46 today
>1.2708x

>>56271488
>Imagine buying link in June 13 2022
I didn’t say this. Please don’t be retarded kek.

>Can’t sell until they’re in the green
You missed the original statement, which is
>Why do you think most linkers shill as hard as they do lmao. Can’t sell until they’re in the green

Get wrecked shill

>>56271438
>chart

>>56271485
Unfortunately the word that goes next to banks and, quadrillions... Is glacial.

I anticipated a large pump to rank 3 early on after finding link in early 2018. It felt like a race against time to stack up. It was seeming like ok yep this will be the moment the wider crypto community finally figures this out and then 2020 happened and we got a big pump and I thought we would never go sub rank 5 again. All the information was right there out in the open. I think a lot of us had at least assumed the speculative pump would sustain a high price and rank much faster than the real adoption would occur. I personally do believe in a lot of the timed BTC dumps since the market is easily manipulated as we all know.

I'd say we're at least 5+years off every bank in the world using this system daily and doing big volumes through it. No idea about price to time frame anymore. I don't believe 1000 per link is a meme at all. Nothing makes sense when shit like shib, doge, cardano is above link in ranks. There's no logic to it so best to let it go

>>56271722
by that logic(its sound) you should not be holding link and gambling on clown world tokens

you know what i find insane about this shit? all these insane ccip use cases still all the L1s like eth, matic, avax etc yet the L1 maxis never peep a word about them, shouldn't they ALSO be all over this shit? where are the CT inflencooor threadooors about "vodafone and swift and anz using ethereum and arbitrum" etc, where are the headlines? yet zero, nada, nothing

>>56271532
Your iq can't be higher than 90

L1 maxis should be sucking sirgay's dick on a daily basis for enabling use cases, covering gas costs, bringing in serious players to using their ponzi ghostchains for actually real use cases, instead they ignore, fade or spit on it all while funding shitty duct taped copycats like L0 or pyth
i never even looked up the data but i wouldnt be surprised if cll was in fact the single biggest gas user in the entire eth ecosystem
i hate vc niggers so much it's unreal, same with buterin and his eth commies and mev trannies

>>56271757
>by that logic(its sound)
What language do you speak at home?

>>56271757
I'm not playing musical chairs or hot potato with my investments. I like to do a deep dive and forget the day to day price movements and only focus on news (such as ccip delays, hacks, failures and successes or, wider market situation) Once again I view link as an investment exactly because it at least has the potential to have a sustainable revenue stream, if not multiple as we've seen now with price feeds, ccip, por and so on. I'm sure a lot of people have made mad money sleuthing telegrams and discords to find tokens that do nothing to pump and dump but that's just not how I operate.

>>56270873
>Exact same garbage you read from perpetually coping HBAR and XRP bagholders.
And then you woke up to reality.

>>56270572
>how do these price feeds capture value for the token?
Explain how Bitcoin captures value according to you.

The only real fud is that holding link is like doing prison time. By the time you get out, the world as you know it will have been twisted and changed by AI so you probably might not even get to enjoy your wealth the way you want to

>>56273011
Insane to me how quickly fudders swept this news under the rug. Anons really are starting to get tired. Not that I blame them it's exhausting on /biz/ at this point.

The insanity of fud is growing proportionally to the btfoing of xrpcucks no doubt. Quant doesn’t even have a community worth mentioning

>>56273181
A few days ago an XRPfag outed himself as the main samefagging fudder from a huge Link thread.
He had been using at least three-four ids with a combined post count of at least 60.

These recent Link partnerships seem to be absolutely destroying their minds.

>>56273011
>pie in the sky bullshit with logos and flowcharts
Thanks for proving my point (again).

>>56273249
No, sitting on some board like XRP or Quant is "pie in the sky".
DTCC, Swift, ... are cooking up direct and specific technical integration, with all the details on full display.

The word "value" comes up 55 times itt.
Fuddies are committing to the "please pretend speculation doesn't apply to Link" line of attack.

Which is exactly the same line of attack they used to gaslight /biz/ into fudding their own coin back in 2018.

>>56273269
Go check the xrp schizo threads on warosu, especially the lastest ones with BIS and if you have an ounce of self awareness you will maybe get it.

>>56273075

lmao smart man. This is exactly what it feels like. whole fucking world is collapsing in the meantime im trying to get rich. More likely that I get t-boned by an illegal immigrant running a stop sign than get to enjoy my wealth for more than 6 months after we finally make it. Gay Earth!

>>56273445
Keep thinking that way and you're definitely going to attract a beaner.

>>56267567
The reason why LINK wont pump is because its not backed by fraud. The Chinese OG crypto mafia were responsible for Ethereum's "success", Wanxiang Corp. played this market like a fiddle and Vitalik was their puppet.

>>56273409
Ripple is on a BIS committee along with a whole list of other minor projects.
Which is exactly what I meant with "sitting on some board".

Now compare that with Chainlink being the sole/main DTCC/Swift/... partner with in-depth technical integration all laid out and go cry in the corner.

>>56273314
omg he's right
all the fud was a fucking psyop
not on the fuddee, but on the fudder

>>56267692
How do turnover and transactions paid in LINK translate to value?

I can't help you if you don't understand basic fucking concepts anon, I don't think anyone can.

>>56269051
Everything in Chainlink is badically in the beta phase.
You seem to think that the financial industry typically makes moves at the speed of light. They move at glacial speed because obviously, they ultimately control and maintain all the value of every asset in the world.
Everything has to be absolutely perfect for them to buy in. Amazingly, LINK is in conversations with the biggest financial operators on the planet to add their services to the current system.

LINK is potentially a golden ticket, a once in a lifetime opportunity.

Anyone got a link to the full talk?

>>56273970


Here >>56270498

>>56273880
>Everything has to be absolutely perfect for them to buy in

This is so fucking naive I really don't even know where too start.

>>56270299
Checked and just because okay? Stop asking youre making us look stupid and now im getring @everyone messages blowing up my phone while we try to dispell your fud, just SHUT THE FUCK UP OKAY?!?

>>56274294
>This is so fucking naive I really don't even know where too start.
Start with using proper English you street shitting ESL retard.

>>56268019
A Manchurian Flandidate

There are so many faggots in this thread it's unbelievable, why do I still come here

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