/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56264903
Yah, he told the fat ass at some point you need to get out of testing phase and let the public use/test it. He literally is telling him to get out of mainnet beta

>>56264903
I haven't watched it yet but I will report back to this thread after. still getting through some other talks.

>>56264903
so go ahead and tell us then

>>56264903
We are still here faggot. And we know.

>>56264903
My favorite part was when Schmidt called Sergey a fat grifter and Sergey responded by calling him a satanic p*dofaggot

Bored billionaires making things up about ai nonsense, what a let down, he was so sharp last year but completely phoned it in today

>>56264903
post link

>>56264903
>gravity
Stop talking about Sergey’s weight

>>56264921
Midwit still holding. I believe it

>>56264961
He's USA/military industrial complex/authoritarian royalty, of course there will be some tension when Sergey is enthusiastically shipping this technology to China. I wouldn't be surprised if he's finding himself stuck between two very adverse factions.

>>56264903
I didn’t even watch this nerd shit

>>56264903
Why does Eric have trump tier fake tan going on? What is he trying to tell us?

>>56264903
why does he have a picture of Zelensky and a ukraine flag?

>>56264995
It's not looking good, bros. Schmidt and Sergey had a MAJOR falling out live on stream today, after Sergey joked about how he couldn't wait for Putin to "decentralize" Ukraine, and Schmidt lost his shit and called him a "dirty Russian pig". They kept fighting and insulting each other for one hour in front of the whole SmartCon audience until Sergey switched his Zoom feed to footage of Ukrainian civilians getting butchered as he kept laughing and singing in Russian, then Schmidt said he was done with Chainlink and planned to go advise the Mobius oracle team instead. It might actually be over for real this time?

>>56264995
Signaling the same power that back the entire western world governments efforts in Ukraine, back LINK

“This is why your notion of a verifiable web —- you’re underselling how valuable it is. How are we going to operate without understanding some basic things about truth? I just don’t know. I don’t know how democracies will operate without it.”

(My note: Schmidt and others, myself included, realize that the rise and diffusion of generative AI represents the total death of the internet as a means to get reliable information or engage in commerce. From international politics to your Amazon order, nothing will be capable of being trusted. I wonder what the solution is?)
——
More Schmidt:

“So let’s simply by saying that for most people when they’re dealing with AI they’re gonna be dealing with LLMs. In other words if you’re doing a Google search, you’ll use an LLM. If you use Twitter you’ll be using an LLM. If you’re typing a document you’ll be having the LLM help you edit it. Let’s just assume that they’re embedded. What are the problems? Well, there are obvious ones: these things hallucinate, they’re easily attacked, they get their facts wrong, they can’t really do math—- there are many examples where you have to call out for something. Where you actually *need* to know a precise answer. So the obvious next thing is that the LLMs will have what are called tools, and when it gets confused it’ll ask a question of a tool. And the most obvious tools are the ones running on blockchain, because blockchain, when well-executed is going to be an accurate defender of truth. So one way to think about it is that the blockchain stuff will provide data that is accurate that will be used
by the LLM in its computation. And that’s clearly going to happen.”

>>56265414
could you elaborate on how my interaction with amazon's front end and payment apis to obtain tendies will be disrupted by AI?

>>56265414
Unironically huge

>>56265414
in other words, the more we aid in accelerating the bullshit and confusion and fraud in our society, the sooner chainlink will be needed

>>56265427
It wont. But link will be immensely important in proving that everything we see has a verifiable source or origin. So it will put a stop to AI generated news and clips from fake species being announced to faked war footage, fake politician and celebrity videos, fake social media accounts or posts etc.

>>56265462
We're already at that point and its ramped up in the past two years with generative AI. Make something believable that harms those in power if you want to usher it in faster.

>>56265427
>Alexa AI gf simulator tells me to buy certain brand of tendies
>brand of tendies sold out
>cry

>>56264903
Why do they have the same haircut?

>>56265463
ok cool they wrote a signature to a blockchain, it's now DEFINITELY 100% TRUUUUEEEEE LINK TO THE MOON

>>56265493
Exactly. But link will only let (((them))) write because they are (((reputable))) and (((trusted))) so it will be (((true))) info being added on chain, not what those on /pol/ or /x/ say

>>56265493
>>56265556
If you concede that Chainlink is inevitable, but you don't invest in it because you're ideologically opposed to what it represents, all you're actually doing is failing to divert profit out of that system, in order to put it to your own use.
Everything requires resources. Getting on your moral high horse and refusing to get rich "to make a point", against an inevitable system, is a negligent dereliction of your role as a man to acquire resources and to direct them appropriately.
A bunch of posturing brokefags will get treated like brokefags through history. It doesn't matter what you say, if you have no way to actually manifest it.

>>56265571
I doubt they're genuine. They implicitly pretend that you not investing in link would someone hinder the plans of technocracy.

>>56265584
It's literally the opposite. They are trying to keep retail out of the system, which further disempowers retail against institutions.
Chainlink fudders, in any form, are either explicitly or tacitly working in favor of greater disparity between institutions and the rest of us.
The more retail hold LINK the less institutions get, and the fairer eventual distribution of the wealth created by this system.

>hey goys we need a way to document all the verifiable truth in the galaxy how should we do it
>uhh what about this json parser called chainlink
>what makes it special
>it has a fat grifter as its mascot and various internet circles dream about getting rich off it
>ok lets do it :)

“Let’s think about name spaces. That I am Eric isn’t something that I would necessarily trust a government to certify. I want to self-certify. And I want you to self-certify yourself. That goes deeply into this question of how does Chainlink know that I really am Eric? So this is a *profound* platform for Chainlink. It’s profoundly needed. We built the web without having an accurate sense of identity. And the lack of identity means we just don’t know what’s going on.”

>>56265462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gGLvg0n-uY

>>56264903
How much LINK did Sergey dump to purchase this celebrity endorsement?

i'm an og i'm just one of the dumb ones spoonfeed plz

>>56265620
>That I am Eric isn’t something that I would necessarily trust a government to certify

trust me I love sticking it to the system to but unironically, what the goverment calls you matters more than any other system for the purposes of existing as an economic being.

If you get sent a tax bill to your name for $1000 dollars and you just go "uhhh that's not my name ackshually gov lmao I'm not paying" then you will fucking go to jail because you wanted to be special.

Anyways, this is one extremely narrow example. The point is, why is link any more or less trustworthy than any other source of truth?

>>56265584
>>56265590
I'm not fudding. I hold link. And I hold it because I believe it will do well. But that doesn't mean that I'm not aware of what hardships it may bring nor am I ignorant to what those already in power desire (consolidation of power and silencing dissent.)
I have desperately shilled link to friends, family, and relative strangers and almost no one cares nor listens. I can't force them to buy or see, nor would I want to. But I'm certainly not trying to FUD anyone out of link. I'm just trying to make sure we all are cognizant of what trials and tribulatuons are ahead for all of us, holders or otherwise. By us knowing, we stand to be a voice of actual truth as to how this functions and point out it is not foolproof and that it can be co-opted by objectively bad folks.

>>56265610
kek

>>56264903
>It’s clear the OGs are long gone
no fucking shit you dead alt bagholder
they all sold the 2020 top and cycled into the new batch of alts before most of them even started moving on the btc chart.

>>56265650
>why is link any more or less trustworthy than any other source of truth?
it's not, but it provides a very customizable mechanism with which to build incentivized truth machines that will be seen as more trustworthy than traditional truth sources by virtue of the granularity of data that goes into them and the committee of 'agents' involved.

>>56265590
The right people within retail will connect the dots. I’d rather see those people with more power than seeing it trickle down to CT grifters and other scum.

I mean Schmidt is literally implying that LLMs embedded into Google and Twitter (and whatever other monstrosities they come up with) will eventually have to use Chainlink too retrieve factual information. I don’t see any other reasonable interpretation. What good is the data given if it’s not cryptographically verifiable? How do you do that without decentralized oracles?

He’s operating on a level entirely beyond finance. In essence the future of democratic government. Powered by Chainlink. The schizos were right.

>>56264903
>Revolutionary!1!1!1
Two pseudo intellectuals ramble on about techno babble that’s nothing but word salads and buzzwords. Yeah crypto deserves to go to zero.

Before you start screching, I’m a sysAdmin and we literally do not need decentralization. Like ever. It’s a fucking mess each and every time it’s implemented…oh just like it is now. Who would’ve thought.

>>56265745
shut up nerd

>>56265745
>trust me, i'm an expert

>>56265777
Checked. You absolutely murdered that avocado kiddo LMAO

Why can't I get a diploma in wrongthink or racism??? what is this insane double standard???

>>56265777
NICE DIGITS TOTAL AVOCADO DEATH

>>56265724
Cool posts bro. I haven’t had a chance to watch the talks yet. This is the first I’ve seen of actual content from Eric and Sergey.

>>56265628
Two months worth of weekly dumps, hence why they had to fire a 100 of the staff and ccip is delayed

>>56265777
checked kekd and avocado btfo pilled

>>56265777
based digits KEK strong 2018 vibes

>>56265777
checkerino great to see avocados get their shit pushed in like this

avocados ≠ experts

>>56265724
Chainlink can underpin practical, contextual LLM usage in many contexts

>>56265049
If Sergey had actually done this I would have sold my house and car to go all in on Link.

>>56264917
>get out of beta
Ironic for a google fag

>>56264903
wasn't it kind of weird how Schmidt immediately talk about the market fluctuations? Definitely not in Chainlinks or Sergeys style to ever mention the 'crypto' market or prices. seemed odd to me.

>>56264919
Well?

>>56266369
He talked about the token last year, he says what he wants.

>>56265584
You will have a nail that falls out of the front of the gun

>>56265745
Go back to plebbit you midwit faggot

>>56265620
This notion that increasingly, systems are being built that REQUIRE this kind of certification is a symptom of the absolute dystopian hell that awaits us down the road. It will be the totalitarian, technocratic government, corporations or "public-private partnership" that requires you to "verify" in order to access or do anything.
It is the transition from a society where you were free to do anything within the law, to one where you have to receive permission for every action you want to take, and that permission will be granted or denied based on a litany of scores the system updates about you.

>>56264903
I didn't invest into Chainlink for AI.
It feels like Sergey is constantly chasing after the next popular thing because the banks which were supposed to be his main customers keep fucking up and need to be forced to adapt at the pace of a dinosaur.

It's fucked up.
At this rate it may be a better bet to hope for AI to take over and kill the banks. At least it would use Chainlink.

>>56264903
>>56265414
>>56265620
>>56265724
good thread

>>56265777
checked

The thing that sucks is I always knew link would have way more applications down the road, I just thought we’d be at hundreds of dollars by then.

>>56266482
Every single major application launch is dumped on by Bitcoin.

>>56266482
Only retail is buying, users can pay in anything else or get free link from Sergey. There is no reason for the token price to go up in this context

lmao the link price. The lows aren't in btw

>>56266400
Powered by Chainlink

>>56266706
james bond 007 tubal caine surprisingly chainlink have not shilled this rabbit hole

>>56264903
>It’s clear the OGs are long gone
OG here, this board has lost its charm, we all know where link is heading, I just stop by 1-2 times a week, the fud has devolved to name calling, doesn't put a smile on my face as it used to

>>56265049
Damn that would have been so based. In all seriousness though does anyone get the impression that Sergey doesn't like Eric? Eric seems like a kind of upper family representative that slid his way into Chainlink to ensure it stays nice and kosher. Imagine if Chainlink ends up as zogged as Google. I don't trust him.

>>56265571
Absolutely beautifully put. Why would I not make money off of my enemies?

>>56265745
If you're a sysadmin I really doubt you never use Email, DNS, or TCP, all of which are decentralized. In fact, the most impactful tech is always decentralized Fucking poser.

>>56266822
i read mutual dislike in it. they clearly didn't rehearse talking points as well as last year. it was over zoom which eric said would kill sergey's business. eric opened with a load of obvious fake praise and (righteous) underhanded digs about price action and "disagreements" that they have. they had almost 0 chemistry as far as building off eachother's ideas despite sharing good information.
it was pretty stilted

>>56265683
Kek no they didn't

>>56265414
So what he says is, that there will be oracles to establish and maintain a base layer of fundamental and basic information like 1+2=3 or the lyrics of a song or a certain scene of a video recorded in the past to ensure the truth and only the verifiable truth can and will be used by future AI LLM's to avoid misinformation or hallucinations of that AI? That's digitizing and cataloging the world and the combined intellectual properties of the human race as we know it. The price for reliable information will rise and the amount of available information will create an environment like we have with the oceans and plastics. The required time for verification of request x by users or agents will take time and computational power of unknown scales especially when massiv numbers of advanced armies of interacting agents will work 24/7 to simulate and advice companies or other usage. How big will this blow up the usage of link? Is this even possible?

okay but who drinks from a mug like that

>>56265414
So he is a total boomer that got pitched "its da future"
Fucking hell. No matter if you call that crap index, ml or llm it stays worthless and a fucking non issue

>>56265590
If they are so desperate to keep a bunch of internet virgins (‘retail’) out, then why did they provide the tokens to be sold on public platforms in the first place? As if banks and other financial institutions are expected to buy the tokens on Binance lol

>>56267232
The "they" I was referring to are fudders. Fudders only influence retail, not institutions, so by fudding LINK all you are doing is concentrating more money and control in the hands of the powerful institutions that you are claiming to be the bad guys in the first place.

>>56265745
>certified retard

>>56265414
This spells the end of dissenting views and the advent of total tyranny where the 'right' answer is the answer of whoever is in charge. It'll drive dissent offline.

>>56267522
Did anyone notice that Sergey has been MKultra’d? I’m not joking
>Slack jawed during keynote
>Saying “sure” “makes sense” every single sentence (sentences used to make sure he’s still under mind control)
>Dead eyes and no emotion when applause was given last keynote
>Started talking about AI when last year’s fireside he was skeptical of it (Eric is mind controlling him)

Sergey has been kingmade, and by kingmade I mean neutralized as a threat to TPTB like many other celebrities and politicians.

Also, maybe Ari Juels is the real mastermind behind it all and Sergey is just a puppet? Ari seems cunning and has a rapey vibe. I think he’d get along with Schmidt pretty well

>>56267539
Maybe but I have suspected that could be the case all along. I was more taken aback at how blatant the illuminati hand gesturing was kek

>>56267574
The real question now would be if Schmidt is handling Sergey to make sure link never pumps (anons having wealth is dangerous)

>>56267589
I would say Schmidt is steering the tech in his preferred direction. Like he guided Google and hence the internet into their control.

>>56267589
>>56267617
sir gays says regs schmidty is saying its a race and wishes sir gay "good luck"
>>56267522
he literally says tippy top like trump did way back in Q times lmao is the tippy top up for grabs? Queen E dies and the nerds battle it out? revenge of the nerds man

>>56265590
get a load of this gigacope lol
lmao

>>56267643
Huh, nice insights. So “it’s a race” and “good luck” might be Sergeys mind control keywords

>>56264921
>We
(You) mean (your) retarded bagholder ass who hasn't sold at $30. Lmaoing @ur life bitch keep sniffing Sergey's hopium fart gas you gullible retard lol

>>56267539
seems like it. that chris barrett weirdo is for sure MKultra'd and he's been assigned to the role of Sergey's handler. he's got that dead, mr beast type look in his eyes.

>>56268352
/thread

>Oh noooooooo its a conspiracy guys!!!!
>they just CANT let dangerous neets like me have a few million, that will disrupt EVERYTHING


There are 56Million millionaires in the world right now

>>56268352
>>56268588
some heavy projection going on

>>56264995
Soft disclosure. He's letting you know big russian man lost.

>>56268523
This is also interesting.

>In 2010 and 2011, Chris worked as New Media Producer for journalist Roger Friedman's Showbiz411.com. Together, Chris and Roger produced a series of intimate interviews with stars such as James Franco, Quincy Jones, and Mark Ruffalo. In 2008, Chris co-authored the book Direct Your Own Life with Napoleon Dynamite actor Efren Ramirez.

He’s pretty connected to tradicional media. He might very well be Sergeys handler and the one in charge of implementing the mind control sessions

>>56264917
Funny when I think the exact same thing as a random retard, just release staking v1.0 and decentralize the network.

>>56264903
>Not one of you faggots picked up on the gravity of what Schmidt is saying.
picrel is you

>erich schmidt one of the biggest kikes in silicon valley is going to make us rich

>>56264903
he said to sergey you better hurry shipping because the competition is here

>>56265571
now that's pottery

>>56264903
no one's gone, we're just not spelling it out anymore

>>56267169
That’s what we should be discussing.

>>56264929
Based

>>56268673
lmao wtf

look, if/when LINK goes to 3 figs, I'll sell 6k, I promise, just give me 3 fucking figs

>>56273552
here ya go brah

>>56266444
> his main customers keep fucking up and need to be forced to adapt at the pace of a dinosaur.
Holy fuck checked, also they said they refuse to update the system!

>>56267539
>Saying “sure” “makes sense” every single sentence (sentences used to make sure he’s still under mind control)

He has been doing it in last years talks as well, so I assume it's a Sergey-thing as he's still a nerd and not a rhetorically well versed speaker

>>56273578