/biz/ - Business & Finance

the weekend is ending
monday starts a bull run
but if stocks keep dropping
i might load up my g...

do you truly believe you can earn a the equivalent of a wage through trading?

>Oil will not reach $100/barrel, says JPM
haha

>>56254729
>Oil will not reach $100/barrel, says JPM
https://fortune.com/2023/09/22/oil-prices-gas-prices-jp-morgan-energy-guru-supercycle/

Guys when does ttoo start going up

Yotsuba best girl.

That said, are we WINNING smgbros? What are you guys planning to do?

Right now I'm sitting on 88% equity, 2% pmg, and 10% cash. Thinking of starting to dip into TLT and TMF since Ackman has shorts have shit on those into oblivion while the Fed is probably done with their hikes.

>USDJPY

>>56254693
I want to go back bros

>>56254765
it's almost like they make this shit up as they go along

>>56254725
I already do.

Tomorrow is the death knell.

>>56254725
Yes. It's a matter of available capital. I know exactly the range of my potential earnings relative to my strategy and the risk of extended downturn. What I don't have is ~750000 dollars to devote to the cause. That is about how much I have determined I would need to earn an average comfortable income in perpetuity.

>>56254719
>>56254843
Jim Cramer says it's a good time to buy stocks. Welp! You know what that means. He never gets his sushi comped.

>>56254858
needing 750k to do well in trading is insane

>>56254913
The criteria is sustainable income tho. It's hard. Yeah I can have awesome years and shit years with less money that could average out to something like a regular income but there has to be a certain amount of cushion there to say yes I could pull that out for the remainder of my life. With less money I would have to take on greater risk and with greater risk come potential for disastrous run that sinks me and ends the whole challenge.

>>56254693
That OP image makes me want to listen to vaporwave again while browsing the stock market.

https://youtu.be/j1IUF_Sl6wg?si=3LSEH77NcjfTl8jB

>>56254858
with 750k you could just live of dividends you know?

>>56254892
https://www.crameretfs.com/?05632777_page=3
Reverse cramer has performed worse than cramer etf.

>>56254942
Sure but the question was about trading. That's sort of the underlying statement I'm trying to make. I can't actually beat dividends at a high enough percentage to be successful with a smaller account. Not predictably.

Reminder that there is still 1.5T USD waiting to buy any dip. BUY THE DIP.

>>56254938
we deserve to go back

>>56254958
No. Fuck off.

>>56254958
yeah but they might be buying the bonds, not the stocks lol

>hes' still holding SOXL

>>56254929
based kelly criteria knower

>>56254948
How is that possible? This faggot hasn't been right about anything. More proof this market is fake and gay

Goddamn nigga. It's Monday already. Another day of NEETing and collecting gibs and gambling on the stock market.

GO TO SLEEP WAGIE! GO TO SLEEP!

>>56255021
>How is that possible?
Being a bull is an autopilot win. Even if Cramer got destroyed by the SP500, he would still destroy any short ETF as he is in most cases bullish. A 2% return in 3 years is a pretty bad return, but still better than the negative return that a permabobo ETF would get

>>56254983
That's not kelly criterion. Just typical risk aversion. Kelly sizing doesn't really account for the idea that you might need to withdraw funds, or that the bets are staggered over time, multiple distinct bets can be taken at once, non-binary outcomes, or the continuous price updates and liquidity constraints in the stock market.

Daily reminder from thursday

i just did my last line of coke

>>56255068
like i said
based kelly criterion knower

>>56254725
I get more money from my grandma than I make from trading.

>>56255104
im a dr pepper man myself

>>56255126
You know that's not what he meant!

>>56254929
if you had 750k available, why would you even need to trade for a comfortable income? At that point you can just invest it all into an all market ETF and get a cozy 75 grand a year on average in annual yield.

>>56255159
ah

>>56254693
>no coke on the counters
Fuckin'
......
Another one into the bin

DXY* ripping

but why tho?

Anyone buying up coinbase.

Am I stupid?
Thinking of adding riot and mara.

>>56255104
For the night

>he did not short America

How the heck is EU in the blue? As of late it has been defying common sense. Now that US is dumping, EU suddenly finds its strength? Such bs

>>56255292
because the US government is showing the world they're capable institution and not some african country that has no stability whatsoever

hey anons. what's up? it's... been a while.
Sorry I haven't been able to join movie nights for a long ass time.
im up ytd which is nice (50% SPY 50% AMD & Covered calls)
hope you all are livin the dream

>>56254693
That looks uncomfortable. All that sunlight beaming down into the bed let alone the jacuzzi in the middle of the room. There would be water getting into the carpet ..

>>56255430
Go back to your shitcord, your kind is no longer welcome here

>>56255430
what is the appeal to covered calls since you already have the underlying?

>>56255422
Quite literally wrong on all accounts. The gubbermint has been fuckin up on all accounts.
>>56255292
Because all other currencies are crap and pretty much everyone is done raising rates (given up on fighting the inflation) while the FED still maintains its hawkish outlook. ECB gave up, BoE gave up, China is useless... yeah, the only currency worth a damn is getting picked up again... who'd have thunk?

>>56255437
i dunno

>>56254948
>>56255021
Not sure but the guy who runs the Twitter account told me he has nothing to do with SJIM and it's not well run.

GUYS. GUYS. GUYS.
You can fucking watch toonami live on youtube???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUUYwyG2Y44
HOW FUCKING LONG HAS THAT BEEN POSSIBLE?

>trip fag
>Goys goys goys
>Advertising advertisment on jewtube

>>56255547
>streaming
Is this really how far we've fallen?

My only regret is not buying more dollars at ~0.90. USD/EUR will LITERALLY NEVER EVER be below 0.95 again in our lifetimes.

>>56255572
No. For some reason a clique of fart huffing head stuck in ass zoomer trash still thinks this website is a place for them to advertise. Mods really need to be more liberal with permanent range bans

Makes me wonder how much worse discretionary spending among normies will get now that student loans are back with a vengeance? I predict that the credit card debt bubble will increase by another trillion by Christmas.

>>56255449
The American man marches on!


(head first into Moloch's grasp)

Now that septembear has passed and a shutdown is avoided, is the drop over? is it time to buy in again?

>>56255638
apparently

>>56255595
>the subsidies to childcare providers are ending too

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

>>56255638
yes, provide exit liquidity

>>56255595
Will not be that bad. The spending has already started to sink without the loans and the impact of the loans is going to be minimal.

first for japanese asspie trader gf

>>56255655
what are the bear cases for the rest of the year? I mostly see upsides until christmas

>>56255638
There is one metric that matters. See >>56254958

>>56255681
I have seen a terrible crash in my dreams. Do as you will with that information

>>56255681
10year yields rising, november hike, Halloween earnings sucking, available income dumping, mortgage rates rising, still no bid in the real estate market, more lay offs while their is a persisting shortage of qualified staff that forces certain businesses to close doors

>>56255682
what does it mean?

>futures

https://youtu.be/V5YOhcAof8I?si=jg6qjCFBTtgOaRLD

>>56255681
>what are the bear cases for the rest of the year?

>>56255742
Nothing. Riskfree 5%+ vs. buying some desperate overleveraged baggies bags

>>56255742
1.5 trillion is parked at the fed growing by 5%, they do this to siphon liquidity from the market.

>When the Federal Reserve uses a reverse repo, the central bank initially sells securities and agrees to buy them back later. In these cases, the Fed is essentially borrowing money from the market, which it may do when there is too much liquidity in the system. Regular repurchase agreements (repos), in which the Fed plays the role of the lender by buying securities and then selling them back, are more common measures that the central bank uses to inject additional reserve balances into the banking system.

pump seems very weak...

>Iraq Oil Pipe Will Resume Within a Week, Turkey Minister Says
Oil brothers 500.000 bbl per day coming on to the market. We could have a pullback in oil here also buy Ticker: GKP on the LSE

>>56255853
How is removing liquidity bullish?

>>56255857
yeah there's liquidity at 4335 on ES

>>56255889
they already removed it........now its coming back

I was gone the last week and I expected the MU guidance to sink the semis, and what do I see today? MU fucking inverse barted their earning and we're pumping again? on bad guidance?
What is this shit, are we still in the clown market timeline?

and just like that all gains of today are erased

Yeah. Its time to fucking abandon this website, mods simply refuse to get rid permanently of the shizoid spammer and his bot crap

so moch for neon green you absolute useless mumu niggers

>>56255953
Good riddance

t. bot

>>56254958
Just what the f3gg? This stuff with repos and reverse repos is something I just can't wrap my head around. But holy crap why are they injecting so much money into the market? Make the rich even richer eh? In hindsight, it was kinda obvious that the market would giga pump with such insane overstimulation

Anyone here buying Chinese A listed shares which broker/s are you using?

>>56255972
thru central banks, the bureaucrats have been helping their banker friends for a long a time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspan_put
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing

>>56255972
That and the deposit bailout during the SVB fall and the emergency lending bullshit where they borrow bonds from bank at face value. They are basically doing QE.

>>56255972
i dont know desu, you should watch a jeff snider eurodollar video about it. its very complex
https://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/rrp_faq
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_sc-H5QYSo

>>56256007
Yeah the big banks massively benefitted from that. They lived on essentially zero rates for a decade (and then with Trump on slightly higher rates) and paid the price by going all in on them. Oh wait they didn't pay a price since they got bailed out. What even is the point of anything when they will always bail you out?
>>56255988
>bureaucrats have been helping their banker friends for a long a time
Almost as if the two were the same or something, haha. How have we allowed bureaucrats to completely dominate our financial systems? Bureaucrats have grown in power, numbers, and overall strength by such insane amount over the last several decades, it's crazy. We used to have one "agency" per municipality with limited personnel. Now? They have spread their claws into every nook and cranny

Uranium bull here. ROTATE NON-CORE OIL & URANIUM INTO PRECIOUS METALS. Do it next few days and thank me in a month when you can then rotate your precious metals gains back into oil and uranium. Buy some SLV LEAPS for 2025 for the long haul, trade them a year from now. Oil and uranium need to consolidate here, they aren't going any higher for a month or two.

Look at the SLV premarket, we're getting follow through to the low side. This is so the bullion banks can exit their short positions, which is why some key players orchestrated the mass slam down on Friday. Absolute low might be around $19.50, but anywhere between $19.50 and $20.00 is good buying territory. From a technical standpoint, precious metals are set to run hard after this bloodbath. Everything is lining up.

All this QE and QT means that the markets have been about liquidity for at least 40 years. It really have nothing to do with ''supply and demand'' or ''free market'' or ''fundamentals''.
The only way to win is really to follow where the liquidity goes. Thanks to the popularization of trading, even retailers can invest in money funds, in bond funds, in stock funds, in commodity funds. The only drawback is tiny and it's that there is some lag because the retailers have to wait for big volume to pop up in the charts

>>56256069
Not yet buddy. You're way to early on the trade.

>EU
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>>56256105
I'm think we get one more big back test on the upper trend line before that second leg complete. Multiple factors are lining up here to make that happen.

mumu fucks can barely hold 4300 wow

>>56256087
>Funds
What happens since 40 years is a going into hyperdrive of organized fraud by a conspiratory group of bureaucrats, political parties, fund managers and a group of monopolists against households. If the USA and Europe had serious leadership in the military, all those people would have been put before walls together with their families and executed

>>56256117
I disagree oil is historically cheap to gold bellow 1950s levels. Although I'll be accumulating gold and silver during this downturn. Uranium sure I'd sell that shit for PMs without a second thought except KAP.

You don't even know what a *real* dump looks like yet. You're about to find out.

>>56256153
I wouldn't be so sure about anything. The cabal obviously run into a wall. There methods don't work anymore, and the commercial banks together with at least a few of the board members and governors of the Fed seem to see that it can't continue like this. They try to stabilize things as far as possible and likely are looking to transition away and remove the cancer of the past 40 years in the background, but I doubt that the lid stays on. The smell of revolution is in the air, a sacrifice for Baäl

I could have told you guys Coinbase would spike just as soon as I shorted the nigger. Like clockwork.

las futuras?

>>56256180
I'm not sure about anything I know it's a managed economy and I will react accordingly when things change.

>>56256183
Basically just bend over and slap a dollop of petroleum jelly on your bunghole before grabbing your ankles, rape train is pulling into the station

>>56256193
What I'm saying, if this shitshow comes crashing down, there is going to be literal blood in the streets, the blood off conspirators and not a single ponzified asset is going to be spared with the trust in the dollar maybe even getting hurt. Its going to be chaos and the place one wouldn't want to have any funds or ious on assets is with a broker or a bank. The conspirators wont just give up without a fight

>>56256244
The fantasy of the revolutions has been a joke for the last 200 years, after the real ones occurred. It's literally over and nothing will ever happen again. People are just harpy to consoooom and virtue signal meaninglessly. That's because this lifestyle caters a lot to women and women are big consumers and they monopolize the bureaucratic jobs both in private and public sectors.

>>56256244
Personally I hope it gets as bad as possible, I'm very jaded by life and extremely cynical so getting to watch all of finance melt down in HD would be extremely cathartic. Maybe it even gets bad enough people stop playing stupid games and winning stupid prizes with currencies and monetary policies, but really so long as everyone gets smashed right in the teeth with a hammer that'd be enough for me.

>>56256258
And that is why everything went to shit. The lid wont stay on, and hr bitches and bureau spinsters can be happy if they are just killed

>>56256244
I can't hold this pessimistic view and expect to retire. If it comes to that I have a place to go. Although there is a probability of things panning out that way the possibility is quite low imo.

When /smg/ is doomposting it's time to buy

>futures

>futes

>>56256280
You are not able to see the underlying issue. If nobody works and men just check out or prepare for massacers, there is no economy

>futas

permabulls... explain this shit

>>56256264
>Personally I hope it gets as bad as possible
You know how governments eliminate their disaffected youth problem? Mass conscription, slaughter and genocide in a pointless war of depopulation. A draft in most western countries is coming. Ukraine is the blueprint. The only question on your minds should be "am I going to have enough wealth, resources and connections to dodge it?"

>>56256293
Nah man everything is fine, stop worrying bro just buy a house with 1% down payment and a variable rate mortgage then head on down to rent a center and get all the furniture and electronics you need for that house and then do a payment plan for the groceries you bought to fill it and just fractionalize all of your life into a series of micro payments that gives the illusion of you being able to afford it when in reality you're selling your soul and are one more bad day away from realizing why people build cabins way off in the woods. The line only goes up and you're a no good commie double jew if you say otherwise.

>>56256293
no anon, if that happens we'll just enter a wartime economy.

>>56256278
Demographic reality that can't just be swept under the rug with importing spics and niggers. That's what happens if you put women on a pedestal as mangerial class. The economy dies. Bitches won't have children and men won't work. A national economy can't work like this, especially if you have on top of that shit show a conspiratorial group of commutards and boomers stuck in 1998 that fill their pockets

>>56256322
Yeah no shit. I know how to stay home and shut the fuck up other than shitposting on the chans, give me the white feather and unlimited pussy thanks.

>>56256332
Sure bitch. And who is going to enact and enforce the drafts? Little Sally brainwashed by feminist shit in HR? 65 year old spinster in the dod? The Boomer farting in the chair? Its going to be revolution, unless the fed and the commercial banks that see the shit coming manage to use their power to do a transition in which Sally, the Spinster and Boomer Joe get quietly removed because they are unaffordable

>>56256280
Always

impressive gap and crap

>>56256334
The economy can work like this you'll just have a slow decline in the standard of living absent any technological revolution. You can still make money in this market you're way too pessimistic imo you can still live in places where there's no spics or negros.

>>56256345
I would want to be as optimistic as you but I can't

>>56256350
>Mmt cultism
Lmfao. It's revolution then

>>56256345
>And who is going to enact and enforce the drafts?
Simple. They'll use niggers and mutts to round up white draftees, and whites to round up the niggers and mutts. They'll use everyone's hatred against them. When D-Day comes, it'll be a Jewish CO with a gun to the back of your head forcing you to march forward, just like in WW2.

>>56256364
Lol
Yeah its violent revolution
The cult won't be quite removed but killed

>>56256117
I see a bullish divergence forming on the RSI, suggesting a potential breakout above the resistance level, with strong MACD convergence reinforcing the bullish momentum

>>56256356
We're not living in the 18th century. As long as there is food on the plate there won't be any revolutions and there's plenty of that in the west. If there's a revolution that is no doubt a "war" between the ruling classes and nothing else all revolutions require capital and you can guess as to whom provides it and none of that is to your benefit.

War can be fun too, some guys who lived through WW1 and WW2 said it was the best time of their life

>>56256389
You are very certain bitch. Tell me where does the future productivity and reproduction rate come from to pay for your wage, if you don't go back to the kitchen and popp out some children, whore

>yields

>>56256369
This is what I see.

>>56256401
Wdym global population is growing no one pays my wage I earn my wage you stupid doomposting ape. Go touch grass.

>>56256428
No you don't. Your work is worthless.
>Global population growing
Ahhh there we have it, the intersectionally racism by privileged white whores brainwashed by commutard conspirators

Why did it even pump so much to begin with if it was going to dump this hard?

>>56256435
>Your work is worthless.
You're just a retard with no skills aren't you?
People want to raise their standards of living and they do that by working. Just stop posting and go touch grass.

I like the doomposters, maybe they get under someone's skin that matters so shit stops being mad gay.

>>56256444
its all about scamming us

>>56256356
ill revolve my dick in your ass bitch

>>56256449
You really don't get it. You got brainwashed and like every low IQ whore only driven by hormones you think your shit doesn't stink. Well done bitch, you are the reason the west is going into bloody revolution because a national economy simply doesn't work like this and bitches like you, can be happy if they get just raped and killed

>>56256465
Enjoy the dead of the west and the world and a decline back into a dark age.

>>56256473
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>>56256489
youre in a dark place already loser lmao

>>56256473
Communists get the rope

>>56256507
I mean if Jamie, Jerome and others that see that it can't continue like this fail against the spinsters and femiwhores in the administration and the conspirators in the economy and politics, than its revolution, not a communist revolution, rather a far right, bitches get killed or chained in the kitchen revolution with the conspirators and high traitors hanged with their ties

>‘They’ve missed out.’ This money pro with 287K TikTok followers says this is the No. 1 savings mistake many people are making now.

The state of NPC news lol. The revolution won't happen.

>>56256507
Only if art is allowed to be as fucking Based as Rockwell was again.

>>56256528
I hope you're right, but that's not how it played out in Ukraine.

>>56256531
You don't need the majority to revolte, you need about 30% of which only half need to be willing to apply violence

>>56256540
How high is the percentage of young men between 18 and 30 that say no? One hiccup and screeching about how all armed groups are feds, won't work

dxy 200 eoy?

>>56256610
Wouldn't be so sure. The trust in the dollar could easily crash. With dollar, equities, commodities and real estate all dumping together

i was green 6 hours ago now im red

The ES is holding. Can I catch a lag here at open?

>>56256676
No reason for it not to clean the bottom of this candle out first imo and open at resistance baiting both parties out.

I don't know who needs to hear this but stop going long in a downtrend on a dead cat bounce. The trend is your friend. And the trend is lower.

>>56256700
But this doesn't get idiots to be exit liquidity and you mentioning it ruins the grift the market enjoys

>>56256700
>I don't know who needs to hear this
Kys for starting a sentence using trannyspeak

>>56256708
True, but its a good principle to follow. Don't take counter trend trades. Sure, the bounce might be 5% give or take but then the trend resumes and if you didn't catch basically the exact bottom, its over.

>>56256401
>>56256356
too many men are sedated by porn, games, streaming, and the internet in general to rise up and cause a revolution

damn what happened this month? why is everything going to shit?

>>56256699
being under 4300 isnt bullish at all

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

WTF ARE YOU DOING
I THOUGHT BURGERS HAD A DEAL

>>56256760
The market did not like this!

>futes

https://youtu.be/gyaPf6qXLa8?t=11
very relevant to the action we saw from Sunday to now

>they don't know what sukkot is
Lol, lmfao sneedven.

>>56256726
>durrr why is america a giant smelly pile of shit after 3 years of biden harris

You are not ready for Red October

Wait, isn't today another jewish holiday? Lol

>>56256700
>the trend is lower
>the S&P500 is up 15% this year
???

Are you talking about last week or something? Because even last month the S&P500 ended green. So were the last 6 months. So what trend are you talking about here exactly?

>>56256721
It doesn't need a majority. The majority can stay sedated, if a critical mass in young men being fucked over by bitches that wont recreate and scammers that glue on their chairs, it's just a matter of when and what is going to bring things to the natural equilibrium again. An economic hiccup is one of phenomena that could be the trigger, and then God have no mercy on those responsible

What's this pattern called? It happened around 4am on ES (ticker SPY)

>>56256881
It's called a fake market that's about to tip off.

>>56256876
Tiresome...it is...

>>56256850
I liked watching that movie with my dad

All you Mumu's on Sunday cheering at the scan pump when the political theater that is another completely avoidable shutdown happened.
GET FUCKED
AMERICA WILL FALL

>>56256902
And it's still up almost 15% this year and up 1% in the last 3 months.

Lol at the retards who thought the market would be green today because of the shutdown deal getting through. It’s all about the yields. Which are in turn all about oil.

What's the point of futures if they can reverse like this?

Buddy, look at the bonds! AIEEEE!

$87.67 TLT
>$87.67 TLT
$87.67 TLT
$4.71 TMF
>$4.71 TMF
$4.71 TMF
We told you people not to get involved in that.

Kill all janitors, niggers, muslims, jews, chinks, indians and blacks.

Thanks sundown for showing an episode of arthur featuring my wife <3

can mumus please pump it up one more time? i wanna get out

>>56256965
They’re all trying to catch the falling knife.

Sell.

WE WERE CAUGHT UP AND LOST IN ALL OF OUR VICES IN A POSE AS THE DUST SETTLED AROUND US

>You could have bought GKP but you bought TLT.

Does gold pay out at all? Or does it just drop in value the higher dxy climbs because of fed rate hikes?

My one long stock is still green in PM

I ate bad rice and have been shitting my brains out all night, glad to see the market is doing the same

>>56256941
Hey, if the Jerome and Jamie succeed its crab between lower 3000 and mid 4000. If they fail, its down to 0 and heads on pikes and women beheaded and stoned to dead

>>56256941
Are you trying to sell me this ? I ain’t buying here. No one is buying here except the fed and suckers.

>>56256947
So that when they become past you can learn from it for the future.

>>56257013
no gold is rigged

>>56257062
The fed? The fed isn't buying anything. You are still in the old thought. Banks and the fed are allies today, because neither of them want to be fucked over by cultist monopolists and treasonous administrators that unironically aim for communism

>>56257084
Rigged by who?

up

I could go for a chopped cheese for breakfast right about now.

>>56257101
banks

>>56257115
Why would they rig a bunch of boomer rocks? Literally nobody cares about your gold

All of fintwit kept celebrating that we gap up today over the weekend

>>56257122
because a security to paper money isnt wanted

>>56257122
Liquidity.

>>56257150
fintwit is just reddit with more confidence because somehow they are able to make money from dumb people

>>56257122
>why would worthless fiat dispensers manipulate the price of commodities
Lurk for two years before posting again

>>56257150
>Reading advertising platform adds by baggies
Uhhh

>>56257122
lmao. babby's first precious metals.
babby, if only you knew how bad things really are.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-jp-morgan-precious-metals-traders-sentenced-prison
https://www.reuters.com/article/jp-morgan-spoofing-penalty/jpmorgan-to-pay-920-million-for-manipulating-precious-metals-treasury-market-idUSKBN26K325
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-10/jpmorgan-precious-metals-traders-found-guilty-in-spoofing-trial
https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/jpmorgan-traders-found-guilty-of-manipulating-gold-market-for-years

>>56257216
>Reuters
Could you join your frens over on the advertising platform again? Thanks

>>56257091
See >>56254958

>>56257231
Lmao. Kill yourself nigger.
Reuters, in conjunction with other sources, is fine. Algos operate off of Reuters. It doesn't fucking matter if the story is true, if Reuters reports it as true, the algos will trade as if it is true.
>UHMM I ONLY READ TWITTER POSTS FOR MY NEWS
>UHMMM I ONLY READ OBSCURE SUBSTACKS FOR MY NEWS
This is you. You're a faggot.

>>56257216
Bullish for metals. Buy SLV today/tomorrow if you know what's good.

>>56256444
Exit liquidity.

>>56257247
5%+ riskless vs buying desperate baggies bags
>>56257253
If you followed anything the advertising agency Reuters wrote for their clients in the past 18 months, you would be broke

So, do us all a favor and go suck "expert" dick on shitter again and be ignored there

>>56257283
Who the fuck is saying to follow Reuters financial advice lmao?
It's an article talking about JP Morgan paying a $920 million fine for manipulating precious metals market.
You're a faggot. Contrarian, doesn't read anything, faggot.

>>56257283
Free Rides over. Go back to your single parent home. Rope is coming this week.

>>56257013
The point of gold is hedge against hyperinflation. It won't give you returns but it will save your ass if shit hits the fan. Academic papers suggest you get optimal risk-return by holding 5-10% gold in your portfolio.

>>56257297
Jpm is currently one of the good guys. Everyone tries to manipulate, but jpm has currently an interest in keeping a free market where games can happen instead of a cult cabal of commutard spinsters fucking up everyone

Now go back, make your tweets be ignored and attention whore under the tweets of your priests

Prediction for today:
>stocks up
>yields up
>DXY up
>vix up
>oil up

>>56257307
Are you projecting fed spinster

>>56257328

>>56257321
>Jpm is currently one of the good guys
LMAO!
JPM paid shill, you need to work on your posting, you can't be this transparent. Your boss will chastise you for this post. HILARIOUS

>>56257328
kek

>BUY 30 YEAR 1% INFLATION ADJUSTED INTEREST BONDS.
>CHINA IS CRASHING.
>THE ECONOMY IS CRASHING.
>BILLIONS MUST DIE.
>NOOOOO, HOW AM I LOSING MONEY?
>ACK...ACK.

>>56257335
Bitch, go back to the kitchen and make some children. You won't, because no man wants your blown out pussy after mileage of dick

>>56257354
>Bitch, go back to the kitchen and make some children. You won't, because no man wants your blown out pussy after mileage of dick
Hey, watch it man, your incel level is showing

>10 year up another 8 basis points

Burry bros... not like this...
https://finbold.com/michael-burrys-1-6-billion-bet-against-stock-market-is-backfiring/

>>56257369
He's not an incel - he's genuinely a paid shill for JPM. Lmao look >>56257321
>unironically defending JP Morgan on /biz/
L M A O
wouldn't be surprised if it's some Indian 'bot farm'

>>56257369
I just prefer, like every men young pussy, you spinster are only good for the whorehouse or a monastery

Now go back to twitter and attention whore there

>>56257385
Jamie is right when he says 7% with demrats literally looking to play bond buy back pyramid scheme. That's just the reality

Market reapers are descending to collect the souls of the over leveraged.

We're so bearish its bullish so we're just gonna hypercrab this week.

>>56257354
At first I was like, best post of /smg/ for the day. Pack it up kids.

But then I was like..
>>56257297
>Jpm is currently one of the good guys. Everyone tries to manipulate, but jpm has currently an interest in keeping a free market where games can happen instead of a cult cabal of commutard spinsters fucking up everyone Now go back, make your tweets be ignored and attention whore under the tweets of your priests

Eww what a fag- your ad homo attack is very bot of you.

Gay ass market

>>56257414
Good. Market reapers for president in 2024 hopefully they stick around.

>>56257414
>Checks credit to debt levels
Oh fuck...

>>56257404
I don't disagree with Dimon's view that yields need to go much higher
This doesn't make the "good guys" lmao.
>>56257321
>jpm has currently an interest in keeping a free market where games can happen instead of a cult cabal of commutard spinsters
JPM is literally and I mean LITERALLY the cabal. They are the cabal! You are a shill!
JPM controls NY Fed, NY Fed controls open market operations. JPM prevents a free market! In all aspects of the economy. From monetary policy, to precious metals markets, to bond markets, to stock market, to options markets, to futures markets. JPM is the cabal that prevents a free market. JPM are the "commutard spinsters"
Fuck JPM, and fuck you

>selling before the bullrun of all bullruns

>>56257385
I mean, now that you mention it is really is pretty funny.

>>56257395
Anon is right, fuck off newfag shill and lurk more.
Once you absorb more of the /biz/ culture you won't embarrass yourself as much on your next attempt to shill for your big bank overlords.

All the PM money is flowing into Bitcoin. Maybe >RIOT calls anon is on to something.

>>56257448
No. Jpm is a private bank that stands in competition with other banks. If the commutard cabal gets what it wants, than its over for commercial banks.
Strange times, would never have thought that I would be on the same side as Jpm, but here we are

Lol I've been saying it for three years and it's never been wrong - no one who actually matters gives a single shit about muh bond yields

lmao

>>56257380
Lmao what kind of claim is this? VIX is up 50% since he bought those puts. If he’s holding anything reasonably longer term then there’s no way in hell that he’s down. This is propaganda.

>>56257453
>/biz/ culture
Go back. There is no consensus among anon, and neither is some spinster crew and their little suckers going to be able to create artificial (((consensus)))

where are the retarded algos when you need them once?

Erm sweaties? I was under the impression that the market would be neon green today. You know, because the budget deal went through. What gives?

>>56257482
You're retarded, and you've been wrong, over, and over, and over. We have explained it to you 100s of times, pulled up charts, showed you the exact moment yields went higher, and the market fell into bear market. We have shown you it over so many timeframes, each time that yields break out into a new high. We have shown you data, after data, chart after chart, and still, you repeat and parrot your mental retardation.
You're wrong. The market cares about yields. Just look at the fucking dollar.
You still have not learned after this many years - you're a lost case.

>>56257489
Go fuck yourself paid shill
We all see you. You are too easy to identify now. You need to change your (((((tactics))))))

>>56257496
You're losing money.

>>56257496
GAY spacing, first of all, but more importantly, you absolutely have not been right lol. In 2021 you were saying, quite literally, the exact same shit, while the market climbed higher for another 9+ months. Last year your broken clock was right because of a war you couldn't have predicted and some of the highest levels of short selling in history. This time it's going to be something equally as retarded, and you will be wrong again.

>>56257504
You are paranoid, this is a clear sign, that you are not anon, but some idiot that mistook an imageboard with his private club. Gather your group and go back

How is this faggot in every fucking thread these days? Seriously, the most retarded doomers migrate from /pol/ whenever we get some red in the stock market and then /smg/ goes so far into the shitter that everyone worth talking to leaves. Fuck man.

>tsla

>>56257537
They're just projecting their shitty lives onto others.

>>56257521
>>56257537
signs of complacency, meme chart is playing out

>SPX futes already swung 1% today
toplel

>Shet coursh... for pain

>>56257521
>gay spacing
Newfag, it's 4chan text. Go back to redd*t if you want to see redd*t spacing.
>while the market climbed higher for another 9+ months
Anon.. it's all about future expectations. All about the future interest rates. If for 9 months future expectations ease, inflation expectations ease, in combination with an AI bubble and multiple expansion bubble, along with literal bank bailouts and restarting QE (silently, ie. BTFP) You will see a market rally..
The market still cares about interest rates all during that period, and it is why the market rallied.. due to expectations of easing of interest rates in the future, sooner than was expected..
You're just retarded - genuinely - we've had this discussion so many times with you
>higher interest rates decrease demand
>decreased demand = decreased revenues
>decreased revenues = decreased profits
>decreased profits = decreased stock prices
that's the most basic part of it, excluding all the aspects of it, from how interest rates change exchange rates (and how this impacts stock prices) to how interest rates affect discount future cash flows. You need to understand that a stock price is the lump sum payment for all future cash flows - when interest rates go up, these future cash flows are worth less in present value terms
These are all extremely basic concepts, that you can learn yourself with a simple google search

>>56257537
It's the other way round, mumoids transplanted themselves here from wsb and now act like they own this place. This place has been doomer for years, and that's the logical way to be.

>>56257491
I guess they turned them off.

today we get to see October highs I hope. The same people who pulled the fire alarm are in control of monetary policy lolololol

>>56257537
Too many people treat /biz/ like it's a lighter version of /pol/ so you get actual /pol/ posters that see other people acting like idiots for a laugh shitposting and think they're in good company. It is literally the fault of everyone pretending to be retards until actual retards joined in. I blame crypto because this kind of behavior is emblematic of what happens when greater fool theory is spurred to run roughshod through a society, of which basement dwelling neets have carefully formed over the last two decades in this pile of shit we call 4chan.

Not posting at all yesterday and seeing this inanity turned up to 11 is proof enough of this being true.

>>56257586
Literally paid shills
>>56257482
>no one who actually matters gives a single shit about muh bond yields
and
see
>>56257321
>Jpm is currently one of the good guys
Ignore anything they say >>56257537 - this is attempting to derail thread, derail attacks on JPM, promote the idea that yields / bond market blow out doesn't matter

>>56257586
No definitely not, just a few years ago these threads were full of actual trading suggestions and bullish-to-neutral market discussions. Now it's almost been two solid years of faggots like this coming in and claiming that the world is unironically ending

>>56257606
Yeah some days I come in to ask questions or share information and leave when I see that the thread is just completely shit up by someone whining about Biden or some inane garbage.

Also
>roughshod
Nice

>>56257584
Show portfolio.

>politics and economics are mutually exclusive and do not influence each other in anyway

>Anon cannot comprehend how the market is dump in futas
Dogs eating dogs anon
Its always been a dog eat dog market

>>56257586
Its not even that I'm a doomer, but you are right about the attention whores that got ignored on shitter, plebbit and their dead shitcord and thought they could make 4chan their private club where they can whore easier for attention

>>56256069
>the tea leaves are telling me to turn your profits into SHIT!
cool!

Good morning anons. Hope everyone had a decent weekend. Lets see how the day progresses.

VIX is up my basterds
And semi are starting to show reasonable behavior
>Marketinsider says a new lower valuation must be found because of """"new"""" Fed QT+high rate environment

So, let me get this straight. This environment is not new at all, it's been there since more than one year. That means until now, the market thought "it was not the real environment" hence supported those crazy PE?
aaah it's like that uh?I understand everything now.
THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
I hope this clown market finishes once for all and that we go back to normal fundamental shit like it used to be """because it need valuation hence lower multiple""
screen cap this post, those will be the headlines for lower index numbers

>>56257636
>if I depict everyone I disagree with as being the troon soijak then I'm never wrong
Finance and politics do have a ton of interplay, but the next time I see some jackass telling everyone to buy gold because the evil Jewish dollar is le bad I'm going to lose my mind. Have a more nuanced take about politics and finance than whatever the streetshitters are pushing in their clickfarms and I'll respect it, otherwise I'm going to call a nigger a nigger (it's you, nigger)

TSLA reported a slight miss on Q3 deliveries

>>56257712
Economies over

>>56257698
Take your "meme" words and go back jew

oh boy i dont want the market to open

>>56257712
>TSLA reported a slight miss on Q3 deliveries
Come on man, look, Bidenomics is working, Sometimes you just gotta pay more. uhhhhhh anyways......I like ice cream

>>56257634
Ok. This is one of three portfolios, split up evenly among different firms, plus a generation skipping trust when I am 40.

*BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG

>>56257747
WTFWT

>>56257640
>Trans rights are human rights no one is illegal slava ukraini

>>56257762
trans rights don't matter
bond yields matter

>>56257747
>747
CRASHING THIS MARKET WITH NO SURVIVORS

>>56257762
>Being brainwashed by some 0.005% of the population psyop
Your brain is mush. You are a useful idiot in the Hegelian game

Gap down.
All the way down.

>humans in school: do poorly in class, fail, forever marked, never pass go
>machines: do poorly, give more money and more data

What is going on?

Hope the stock market keeps going down. A major market correction will force the early retirees back to work and alleviate the labor shortage.

The interesting thing about the next pump is that it will be violent and fast... it WILL be the dead cat.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>56257818
we really need to cut back on boomer welfare. reducing social security could help the labor market. lazy ass boomers just don't want to work anymore, rather get gibs.

Should I get some NIKE now that Taylor Swift has made everyone forget about the bipocs kneeling for the anthem?

goodmorning ladies, gents, and others

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m6en0SQNFs

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>>56257848
There are no others. Just two types of "us"

>>56257843
>cutting social security
They paid their fair share, now they get to collect kiddo. Nobody is going to let you push grandma and grandpa off a cliff. They have to get everything they're entitled to.

>>56255090

JPOW day is always a <3 day

GME has just reached its lowest price since the squeeze.
Honestly wondering if now is a good time to throw some fun money at it, personally have seen it rebound everytime it reaches $16.

>that RSI
SPY is about to collapse holy shit.

>>56257873
just because boomers fell for the ponzi scheme doesn't mean following generations should. what kind of fucked up suicide pact is that?

>>56257873
>Nobody is going to let you push grandma and grandpa off a cliff.
>what about 2019-2022?

>>56257873
They should get haircut by the inflation, not just monetary, they voted for 40 years. That would be fair

>>56257843
Until recently there's been no reason for the boomers to keep working. Home prices have doubled or tripled and 401(k) accounts are twice as large as they would normally be due to the bloated stock market. All because the fed kept the interest rates low for too many years and enriched everyone who held assets which is mainly boomers.

>META pumping due the Lex Fridman interview
Based

>>56257891
I don't know - I don't think so..
I mean, it could
but right now we are sooo oversold on the bonds, very oversold on a ton of sectors
like look at XLU for example
there has to be a bounce, just to get back within average true range
there is the greatest short positioning in history right now on bonds, which should also get squeezed
I think the sell off needs to cool before another leg down can happen - yields are already cooling a little bit this morning off of their highs
we'll see - I think greater probability is a relief rally

Too many communist itt. Your little brainwashed group of shitter, plebbit and shitcord fail attention whores really need to leave this imageboard, or go back to /pol/

>>56257926
Why does anyone watch Lex Fridman?

>>56257930
Until people pull money out of stocks and put them into bonds then the pain will continue
>higher for....
>longer

We culled

>>56257940
Shut the fuck up ya turbo nerd.

>>56257901
Social security has been protected from inflation since Nixon. My dad got a huge bump in his check from the pandemic.

>>56257891
>TA
>has never worked
>this time it's different look at xy

>>56257941
idk but it is pumping my bags so I am happy

Baking

>>56257941
He was podcasts for people who thought they were smart but now I realize they are the same as rogan enjoyers

>>56257941
Nobody watches that pseud kike faggot.

>>56257930
I agree with anon >>56257949
The leg down happens as people pull money from the market to put into bonds.
Rates are confirmed higher for long over and over by the Fed.

That's how I read it though, it still feels like everything is overvalued still and market needs to reasses its valuation of the S&P 500 companies. Especially A.I tech.

>>56257951
That's a problem. I see the rational from a political point of view, it's so boomers keep voting for traitors that enriched themselves at the cost of future generations and instaled their communist cabal, but it doesn't work. It just makes the pyramid scheme of social security more unstable. haircutting them by inflation would be a fair solution

>>56257941
Its litterally a jewish advertising platform. How many goyim or sayanim has he had on ? 2 ? maybe 3.

New Low of the Session, Day, Month and Quarter.

Havent seen this much spunk in the market in a while... it has no idea what it wants to do yet.

NVDA nigga! WHAT?!?

>>56257818
>grandpa's gonna just saunter on back into HVAC repair at age 75
interesting

>caught the morning buy up
>got chopped around a bit and gave back some of my gains
>sold short the break of the range to the downside

>>56257941
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02oKSUlGc0c

Good goy cattle who want to get their daily dose of jewish propaganda

>>56257997
I mean we should just put a cap on age, like after a boomer reaches 76 and a half years old you just get rid of them.

dxy goin for 107 today. Based.

>>56258067
That's a bit too extreme and is actually what the communists are calling for, but can't let boomers off the hook as easy. They voted for 40 years for pyramid schemes at the cost of everyone else in the future, while they legitimized the communists that want to kill them now. They have to pay, or people are just going to let the communists kill and rob them

>>56258067
Like in the book, The Giver?

JEROME STOP

ITS ALL ON TARGET!!! NEVER A RED DAY AGAIN!

AMERICA STRONGEST MANUFACTORING! #1

>>56258067
just taking the govt tit from their mouth is honestly enough.

>Open laptop at 9:27
>Meeting started at 9
If I fuck up my /comfy/ job for myself I'll seethe. Of course now I'm watching tickets instead of paying attention to the meeting. I want an income and to work from hope but I dont want to stop sleeping in. Motheruckers. Good thing I'm gonna be rich when $SPY goes to zero dollars.

>>56258151
>The government
You are as stupid as them. Well brainwashed cattle, considering the government some god

>>56258111
We could implement a wealth tax, like if you wanna live past 76.5 you have to pay a fee and give up your social security check, or you can go in one of our conveniently located mass graves, entitlement problems solved. Im take and early and late lunch.

>>56257921
On the bright side, we are seeing asset price inflation. And it will continue unless deflation rears it's ugly head.

>>56258199
Wealth tax is communist bullshit. Wealth is not the problem. The problem are Socialist pyramid schemes, like social security and shit and then in top "protecting" the socialist pyramid schemes artificially from inflation, naturally helping to fuel inflation

>>56258160
Modafinil

NVDA pumping because of the new meta interview and DALL-E 3? I'm finally in the fucking green

>>56258236
>American
>Not even remotely famous for being a welfare state unlike several EU/scandinavian countries
>NOOOO IT'S DA POOR PEOPLE; NOT DA RICH
lmao, never change burgers

>>56258236
Ironically ancient Rome’s model of tax collectors paid the state for the right to collect taxes would be more efficient than whatever horseshit we have today.

>>56258294
Love how it's pumping but SOXL is doing practically nothing. Gay.

>>56258321
Scandinavia isn't full of niggers
>yet..
We are not the same

>>56258321
Europe is fucked because of it. On paper, Germany has a moderate debt to gdp ratio, if one considers all the liabilities hidden in socialist pyramid schemes, its around 500% debt to gdp

Look how hard the market is schizoing out and/smg/ is dead. Can't win without showing up, boys.

>>56258357
I need a trend to ride. This crab market is economically worthless

>>56258357
>Market schizoing out
>S&P 500 unchanged

>>56258335
That would actually be an interesting solution, would remove power from centralized inerit scammers with an incentive to fuck over everyone else for their own benefits and allow more localized dynamic taxation based on the actual reality of locality.

Bbbyq getting a buyout, talks starting at 25$ a share per schwab.

been baking a while..

DAX for whatever reason literally dying.
CAC (france) the same and there is like nothing that could hint at it.
Especially the better than expected ISM should pump EU. This shitreport sometimes pumps EU harder than the US.

>>56258438
im sure it will hit .090 of a cent one day sport

>>56258357
There are too many shills to have genuine conversation.

If you are a divvie investor buy the Arkema dip.

>>56258357
Market is fake and gay, I'm in cash until the bears have had their fill and fuck off.

Alright anons, where the fuck can I watch this Fed Speech scheduled for 11?

I can't find it anywhere.

>>56258504
Fed has a YouTube channel they normally stream on. Assume it'll be there.

>>56258504
Jpows onlyfans

>>56258467
>https://old.reddit.com/r/ThePPShow/comments/16xxz4m/schwab_preliminary_details_25_share_buyout/
It's just one rando saying it but if it's true it's going to heem the markets. They have 901 million shares so that'd be 22.5 billion getting vacuumed out of a lot of institutions asses.

What even are thsoe scamwicks? Not 7 horus ago DAX was 280 points higher. What is this market? Worse than third world. My sister wanted to start to buy ETFs. I told her don't fuckin start now, this market is literally broken and retarded. In 2 weeks DAX could be 16k again for fun and in 6 back to 15k

>>56258543
You're going to win the lottery today. I know I'm just one rando saying it but if it's true your life is going to change so get out there and buy a ticket

>>56258563
This is the market you get when they allow 0dte options so Big Money can fleece retail every fucking day instead of once a week

>>56258563
Equities are pivoting for a recession. Only retail normies are falling for it and will be come exit liquidity baggies.

>>56258563
Germany is dying. The communists fucked that country

>>56258575
I didn't fuckin short in the morning cause I wanted to play Fortnite with my nephew, FUCK. Should have done AND played with him but I thought we would get
>NEW WEEK
>NEW MONTH
>NEW QUARTER
>NEW HOPE

why is JABIL still not dumping? i dont get it.

>>56258605
Jesus christ why the fuck would you be shorting NOW. You're the retard getting fleeced.

>>56258620
JABIL IST STABIL (stable in german)
That's actually a meme here.
>Nabil Stabil
Nabil being an arab name or whereever it is from.

>>56258594
germany is doing great.
a few million nuclear scientist and doctors have migrated in the last few years, it will work out great.
inflation and taxes are a bit high, but thats just transitory of course.

>>56258627
LMAO
Yeah ask me why I didn't short though DAX suddenly crumbles 280 points on
>NO NEWS
You are the retard it seems.

If you bought Arkema in 2007 you would have a dividend yield of 8% and a stock appreciation of 2x. Solid dividend growth stock story, specially if you consider that their business is low on debt so its divvie is sustainable and most likely will keep growing for the next decade

>>56258661
;)

Holy shit I cannot fucking believe that we're going to do this dumb ass game where the market waits for a boring ass Fed roundtable where retail faggots wait to short every soundbite. These days are the fucking worst.

Oil bros, it's over, isn't it?

You DID subscribe to Jerome's social media accounts, didn't you /SMG/?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i55n1MJYwEk

>>56258709
I already have my sell stops set waiting for a break down under support. Can't wait to short this ponzi to the ground

>>56258709
Absolutely seething permabullfag
You will have your bullrun in this quarter but then the ride ends.

>>56258709
>Retail
.... How are you niggers so easily manipulated and brainwashed

DXY is going to break 107 today

>>56258729
>>56258736
>>56258740
Retail bears are utterly fucking obnoxious. Keep patting yourselves on the back for having your broken clock be right twice a day.

>>56258755
There is that word again
You got brainwashed by advertising

>>56258772
You're not talking to real people

The only thing holding this scam market up is the Nadsaq divergence. As soon as tech niggers get back in line the bottom falls out

>>56258772
What word

>>56258755
>implying bears are a broken clock while the market 70% of the time goes upwards

>>56258789
took a short position in META right now so expect a move up in tech

Oilmen, trim now and buy 2025 SLV LEAPS. Bottom of the barrel prices in silver.

>>56258806
bottom is also clearly in for natty, it's going to poomp soon

>30 posts by this ID
Wow lol

I've done it
>>56258831
>>56258831
>>56258831
my first bake

>>56258833
So what shill?

>>56258833
This thread is overbought.

>>56258843
TA suggests we need to press

>>56258794
There are two options, they are markov bots, then their index gets fucked
They are paid human waste, then their index gets fucked

>>56258840
You are a paid shill. That is why you posted 30 times in this thread.
see
>>56257321
>Jpm is currently one of the good guys
You have failed. You are now instantly recognizable based upon your typing patterns.
Kill yourself.

>>56258933
They are communist/socialist. But you faggots got terminally brainwashed. If you unironically want to give control over monetary policy to the treasury and congress you are a supporter of tyranny, a a drone programmed by s 15 billion dollar chinese propaganda budget

Jpm wants to stay free, that's okay in my book

>>56259000
>If you unironically want to give control over monetary policy to the treasury and congress
what the fuck are you talking about.
the bond market controls monetary policy. the bond market is controlled (in large part) by JPM. congress / treasury do jack shit. JPM is the cabal, using their power to influence markets,, governments worldwide - they are the real tyrants, and you are licking their boots.
Again, JPM controls the NY Fed. Enough said.

>>56259060
>t. Ching chang chong

>>56256528
We are approaching that timeline.

>400 posts
wtf

why does this smg have 400 posts? why are there two smgs at the top of the catalog? Stop diluting my smgs you're decreasing the value!!!