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no religion or deeper spiritual meaning to their life.

and there is me who inherited 800K at 26 and who bought 10 BTC a one way trip to Pattaya

Humans were made to work. If you don't work, you will be depressed. Even if you have a ton of $. Don't be fooled and get jealous by the people who have $ and never work. They will always project an image of a happier life.

There are many ways to solve problems. If people have $, they solve problems by throwing $ at it. After some time and many bs things that happens, this is absolutely depressing.

>>56252561
They're just feeding cope to poorfags

>>56252644
>one shot at life
>spend it waging

>>56252561
>Why do rich people keep working despite recognizing it won't make them happy?
Because they're mindful that being rich and a hedonist out of boredom is a trap.

because "happy" as a concept doesn't really mean anything. It's just a lofty goal to "be fulfilled" one day without any idea of what it means when you actually get there

then sooner you abandon the desire to be happy the sooner you'll actually be generally happy and motivated to do what you wanna do

I think the answer is twofold, for me.
>vacations when you want
>contribute to community/higher goals and mission
For example if I was absolutely loaded, I would build a cathedral (once after generational wealth was taken care of, or at least enough to be secure in my children's and grandchildren's futures). If anything, if I were to stop working to make money because I have so much of it, I would be working to help others. Real life RPG quests. Although, working in a meaningful way would probably do this any way.

I would also be free to pursue my interests and hobbies and would continually take up different arts such as the trumpet, or wood carving. I would never run out of things to pursue, ever. Would also pour money into having fun like surfing/wind surfing/wakeboarding etc.

>>56252716
kys christcuck

>>56252644
>you should totally spend one third if not more of your limited time on earth working for mr shekelbergstein you were designed for that bro trust me
the absolute state of the wagoids

>>56252744
Will pray for you.

>>56252780
God gave cancer to my father when i was 3
I fuck your lord

>>56252794
I am sorry to hear about your father. That is tragic. *hugs you over the information super high way*

>>56252663
You're missing the point. If say you solve the problem of $, you definitely should not sit there and do shit everyday.

Go out there and learn new skills. Don't be that loser that just looks for what new expensive places to eat out everyday. Play video games until you pass out.

It takes work to work on your golf swing or become a good painter.

Volunteering is technically like wageslaving when you have $ except you can meet some quality people.

You're talking from a perspective that you wage slave and get stuck there and not gradually move up.

>>56253332
>reddit spacing

Current status of wagie cope:
>>56252693
>because "happy" as a concept doesn't really mean anything

>>56252561
You don't get rich if you aren't the sort of person to always be doing stuff.

>>56252644
Humans aren't made to work you fucking dope. We have certain evolutionary drives, we need to understand what those are, make it make sense for the individual and then drive that energy into productive endeavours.
>> that is it.
Waging makes sense for a person at one point in their lives, you are supposed to grow out of it and find something new. Your priorities change, once you get some wins under your belt.
The problem with most people is that they:

>> Don't think for themselves
>> fall for marketing
>> rather take no decision than fail and learn.

I see so much spiritually poor people in their late 30's I find it laughable. I don't mean religion, to be curious and spend your time just interacting with world.
Living frugally is easy, when your entire purpose and self worth don't come from money. If you are fighting to buy shit to FEEL GOOD.
YOU ARE DOING it WRONG.

>>56253332
Everyone point and laugh at the dumb normoid who thinks making it is about trying to fill another void.

>>56253467

I wouldn't fully rule out waging. There are instances where, if waging aligns with a spiritual depth that is satisfying to the individual, that can be a great way to live life humbly and happily. The best way to judge is by the fruits; if they grow as an individual over time and iterate into better selves, then it is a healthy relationship. If not, then it is stagnant or possibly even unhealthy, and they should seek a different engagement if possible or find ways to change it up over time.

That being said, fully agree that your purpose and self-worth don't come from money. If that is the only thing driving you, then you'll at best win a numbers game at the cost of everything else; worst case, you lose it all. If you're shrewd with it, however, your investments will bear good fruit.

>>56252644
>If you don't work, you will be depressed.
I've never been more depressed and utterly suicidal that I was when working a shitty menial labor job.
Fuck you lying jew.

>>56252561
Happiness as an end state/goal doesn't exist

>>56252595
This. Believe me, I've been down the spirituality path. Nothing matters. May as well be the king of your own hill.

>>56252595
>>56253964
Oh I take that back. You're a faggot. There is no deep truth to search for and there is no inherent meaning to anything. Religion and spirituality is a major cope if done how most people use it. It's literally an opiate for the masses and a numbing agent for poor faggots.

>>56252561
Women. If you have money and a woman you'll need to keep working to earn more money to replace what she spends. Women spending money constitutes literally half of US GDP (>70% of consumer spending which is >70% of GDP) so nobody will ever encourage the whores to spend less.

>>56253964
Did that feel good to post? :[

>>56253964
>Nothing matters.
If nothing matters, why do you take the time to belittle the poster at all? Why did it offend you so much that you had to post?

>>56253973
>Religion and spirituality is a major cope if done how most people use it.
That in itself is a huge problem, because so many people are doing it wrong. There is so much hatred that can come from "good-natured" hearts that weigh themselves, lesser rules, or traditions over the fundamentals. It creates new victims from those who were trying hard but simply saw things from a poor or malformed perspective. I won't presume or pry. Even I continue to have my own difficulties and doubts from time to time (I am human), but the least I can do is try, keep knocking, and Seek the right things. If the poster is just another face to you, then simply admit it and move on so that we know where you truly come from instead of feeling sorry for you.

>>56253964
>Believe me, I've been down the spirituality path. Nothing matters

Sounds like you did it wrong

>>56253973
>It's literally an opiate for the masses and a numbing agent for poor faggots.

The people who think this are miserable wretched souls who are desperate to feel superior to everyone else despite objectively having no reason tonfeep this way. Its gamma secret komg nonesense.

>Im an unlikable miserable loser woth no accomplisbments but I know religion is pointless unlole all those other normies so really I am secretlt better than them

>>56254288
> Its gamma secret king non-sense.
You're literally projecting.

>Im an unlikable miserable loser woth no accomplisbments but I know religion is pointless unlole all those other normies so really I am secretlt better than them
More seething projection.

Sorry buddy, the fact is that whatever retarded set of morals you have decided to handicap yourself with don't apply to me and you can't get me to play by your rules. Nothing is moral and nothing is immoral.

>>56254318
You are really using this Andrew Tate hierarchy bullshit unironically

Pitiful

>>56253973
The masses deserve to controlled, raped, and killed though fren. Have you ever *met* a normalfag? It’s like there’s nothing going on upstairs, it makes sense why religion exists. There is no god and all religion is fake though.

>>56254288
Retard slave, just because you lack the proclivity to realize that you have no friends but yourself doesn’t mean the few people like us capable of individuality ought to listen to you. You are no more than mere fucking BOVINE!

>>56254288

Don't think yourself any better with those thoughts.
You don't know their life or the perspective that allows such contempt. Keep an open mind (and more importantly a good heart), and you'll open doors instead of closing them.

I'll need to head out shortly, but look at this world a little more kindly, because we're all in the same dung heap trying to figure it all out.

>>56254332
Andrew Tate is a retarded 95 iq nigger go fuck yourself. I don’t need some ugly mulatto to realize that I have worth beyond being enslaved to some retarded Talmudic doctrine, or to some slavish Christcuck moralistic nonsense, or to some haji retard incest manual. Like I said, GFY

>>56252561
I have a goal to getting rich. Is that why I'll never make it?

>>56254353
The dung heap is the result of the sub humanity of the masses, of people like you who are embodiments of the crab in the bucket mindset. The dung heap is the result of the doctrine of equality; all of which follows from the word of the Bible.

>>56254357

Have a nice day.

>>56254369
It’s night where I am, but have a nice day/night.

>>56254369
Apologies for the rudeness, I am usually more polite and should have been more so with you. >>56254372

>>56253332
Work is slavery. There is no innate value to labor.

>>56254379

No worries at all. There are TONS of poorly communicated, poorly translated, and horrible acts that were done in the name of God or because the Bible "said so" in general, so I'm winging it pretty hard. I'm resorting back to a circle of stones and following the fundamental rules first, but also trying to keep as open of a mind as I can and humbling myself as best as I can. Really, the only thing I got going for me is that He is far greater than I am and might still love me even with all the dung I've flung His way already... But if it finally warmed my heart enough to give a homeless vet near me the cash I had on hand, maybe that's all the change in the world we needed.

>>56252561
it keeps the mind distracted from the pain and is far more productive/healthy than alcohol (which is still consumed outside of work). next question

>>56254568
I’m atheist and I’ve never consumed alcohol or drugs.

>>56254568
Why not distract oneself building a family or works of art, why if rich, choose to keep making number go up and shill useless products and courses like the OP image? I checked his twitter and it's shilling a course on how he made his dropshiping brand or whatever. I do think he's actually wealthy since i see thots and nigs wear the brand at every gym, but seems like a very disingenuous dude in general

>>56252561
when i was growing up, my dad was a paramedic and my family was pretty broke, i remember my parents fighting about bills pretty often until he got his first office job around the time i went into high school. the company he helped build got to be pretty successful but he never got paid well until the last 10 years or so, and he only really became rich-ish (1mm+ net worth including house and cars) in the last 3 or 4 years as he helped negotiate a merger with a competitor which switched his compensation for the better

anyway the reason i'm blogposting is, i noticed something weird happening as he transitioned from middle class to moderate wealth. he was always an extremely compassionate and kind person growing up and despite enjoying nicer things (he's always liked nice cars, nice clothes, luxury travel) these were more details instead of all-consuming passions.

but in the last decade and especially the last 5 years, he's turned into a different person! it seems like the only topic that interests him is things he can buy or experiences he can pay for. the most interested i ever see him is when he's talking about different brands of clothing or cars or electronics, it's just weird. this is a guy who raised me to consider all the different viewpoints in an issue and to try and arrive at the truth through critical thinking, he'd give me each week's time and newsweek magazines and then ask me about my opinions on the issues they covered. and now he seems almost entirely consumed by...things. it's uncanny.

and he went cold about people too. he's always been a people person and loves talking to strangers, including people from all walks of life. at the end of every flight or bus ride he'd know their entire life story. now he's rude, especially to people he sees as beneath him.

i think money's an addiction, and addictions change you, they rewire your brain and change your perception of yourself. they also steal your joy.

>>56252561
Pretty easy answer. Money, especially the ability to make large amounts of money, isolates you from more and more of the population as your wealth grows. People are generally ruinous pains in the ass and wealth gives you a crystal clear glimpse into this aspect of them. You end up in a dilemma where you can either walk away from your financial operations to hang around people that are functionally niggers, people you may as well be a space alien to (and give them time, they’ll resent you for being better) or you can just keep working to make more money and maybe meet contacts you actually want to associate with.

>>56252561
It won't make them happy, but it will distract them from realizing they aren't.

>>56254711
That might just be a symptom of getting older or society in general; being less sociable. Not necessarily being more focused on material things.

>>56253980
Divorce and paying out your assets to women is a maintained mechanism to keep money from stagnating and being hoarded, to maintain money velocity in the economy, to encourage spending.

>>56252644
Lol, no. I feel the best laying back in my bed, well fed with balls drained and no responsabilities to stress about. The people who need work have been mind broken by mr shekelberg.

>>56252644
that's only true for low to mid level iq
higher intelligence individuals have richer inner worlds and less of a need to manifest outwardly
it's actually a problem nowadays. access to information is so widespread a genius can feel more than fulfilled doing nothing, too many interesting topics and too little time
if you ever wonder why the world is decaying beyond muh immigration or muh kikes, this is the answer. incentives play their role at every level and there's just less incentive than ever to go out and shape the world for the smartest people
those few who still do it tend to have some drastic unbalance, some personality flaw pushing them to. which is also why the end result is broken, in a different way

>>56252644
Kys christcuck.

>>56253973
Entirely correct. The (you)s you got are hilarious. Grade A coping because they're unable to self actualize.
I admit it took me way too long to realize this. Religious people are very often not religious because of retardation, but because they have nothing left. The options in their mind are god, or rope. This isn't an easily fixable thing. You either naturally self actualize from the beginning, and immediately reject faith as fucking bologna the second you start thinking for yourself, or you get trapped inside the cope cycle. The latter end up wasting massive amounts of effort on nonsense which doesn't progress them towards a real goal. The sunk cost, lack of believed alternative, and horror of being fully in control of their life, they add up to a massive emotional reaction towards any contradiction. It's best to not bother. Those people are like homeless addicts begging for a buck. Don't do as they ask, and don't tell them they're wrong. Just ignore their existence. They're irrelevant.

>>56254711
Interesting. I don't think its just money, society in general has become fucked beyond recognition over the last 30 years, but I kind of agree with your conclusion. Money does have very real addictive qualities about it, and studies have shown that after a certain point which isn't even that much, it won't make you happier on average. There is something inherently sick with someone becoming obsessed with money and just having more things. It just doesn't seem compatible with a healthy mind.

>>56252561
this is a problem of upbringing, they have never been taught how to enjoy life, I enjoy life and I'm happy as a poorfag, if I were rich I'd do the same I'm doing now but I'd have more free time to spend in the many projects I have I can't currently do due to lack of time from working, to a well balanced man even the simplest things such as reflection on various topics can give extreme satisfaction

>>56252561
Because they're gay retards that haven't figured out how to actually be happy and are still trying to fill a hole.

>>56252561
Not all rich people are retards like this guy

>>56252644
>Humans were made to work
humans were made to be engaged in something. low IQ types confuse this with toiling for toilberg.

>>56252649
Poorfags need Jesus, not cope. Worldly wealth is cope if it still won’t make you happy. You make money to make your life easier, not extravagant. Problem is that the gov’t expects you to pay like you live extravagantly.

>>56252561
had a guy, 50+, multi millionaire.
he kept coming to work to get away from wife and family. even during lockdown when homeoffice was mandatory he came to the office just to get away from them for some hours.

>>56256605
That’s just pathetic. I bet he married a real cunt that was just beautiful on the outside, and even then, only with makeup.

>>56256588
If they’re worth 3 million or more, Yes they are

>>56252644
I’m happier as a wagie than a NEET.
That said doing a meaningful job where you actual create something or help people makes it much easier to wage.
I wouldn’t be able to do some corporate bullshit job where the only thing you do is excel and PowerPoints.

>>56256641
I'm worth more than 3 millions, I don't have a job, I meditate and do sports everyday, I thrive for inner peace and acceptance. Many others are like me.

>>56256655
Do you want to build anything?

>>56256658
Not really at the moment I'm fine with what I have.
Well I keep building my investment portfolio but there's no stress in that. I'm very conservative because my only goal is to keep my freedom and current margin of action, not to become a billionaire.

>>56256655
So you don’t get any more income, including dividends? You just slowly drained the 3 million?

>>56256682
> Well I keep building my investment portfolio

Thanks for proving my point, asshole.

>>56254273
>Sounds like you did it wrong
He definitely did it wrong. Even if you don't believe in god science has shown that the most spiritual people are the happiest, so that should pose questions to even the most cartesian spirits.

>>56256697
>Thanks for proving my point, asshole.
I don't know what your point is but it seems it makes you very angry

>>56256722
I think he’s pissed because you’ve grown complacent. I think a percent of 3 mil could generate 10% yield on the S&P alone and that’s not including dividends. I’m just sick if the world getting uglier and would like it if those with wealth built something worthwhile. Like how Christians back in the day made beautiful hospitals, I don’t know.

>>56256736
There are plenty of good things being built in the world today, and it's made with capital invested in the financial markets.
As for how I live my life I live according to my own expectations and need, I'm not complacent at all about that, on the contrary. There's no point living according to expectations of people that often know little about you.

>>56256802
I guess not. It just feels like the world’s burning faster than we can put it out. The world’s always been burning, so must be social media.