/biz/ - Business & Finance

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>>56226345

new bottom for gold im thinking is 1750-1800; then it takes back off. oil prices rising soon too

fact: rock chuds have never outperformed inflation

>>56226376
Fact. I can break you in half.

Kinda shit picture and I couldn't have picked a worse backdrop, but anyway, I made Roman tier yesterday.

Got a payout recently and looking at PMs. What are the advantages/disadvantages of kilo silber burrs over a hefty haul of 10ozs? Premium is less on the kilo bars and they're from an established vendor rather than an ebay store.

What am I in for?

>>56226418
Kilos are comfy. They're the perfect weight for use as a weapon. There's something comforting in knowing you can bludgeon someone to death with your chosen financial instrument.

>>56226331
I bought a monster box during the dip when covid was just starting out and haven’t stacked anything since, though I’ve had an idea in the back of my mind that I’d start cycling through silver eagles, maples, australians, gold. Now my wife wants to buy some gold now because she saw a thing about costco selling 1 oz bars. I had figured that when I started buying gold I’d begin with the old Euro sovereigns. Idk, I read something that said that at one point, Roman soldiers were paid basically a mercury dime per day, so that’s what I’ve based my stacking on. Starting from an arbitrary date, I looked at it as “paying” myself the daily equivalent of that mercury dime. This comes out to like 2 oz a month. Should I just figure out what that ratio to gold would be and buy that much all at once for this year?
>>56226416
Beautiful stack anon

>>56226331
Why the fuck is it impossible to find Mercury dimes anymore? Only place I see them is jmbullion and fuck them I'm not paying nearly a dollar premium per coin.
On the plus side, I found my first Coinstar score, a 1946 Roosevelt, so I have that going for me which is nice

>>56226494
>Now my wife wants to buy some gold now because she saw a thing about costco selling 1 oz bars.
Jesus,was that all it took? How do we get Gucci to mint bullion? Can we get Prada and Dooney and Burke in, too?

>>56226418
Bigger bars are easier to fake (though there are still plenty of fakes for some common rounds and coins, mind), harder to verify, and may be harder to liquidate if silver ever goes up in a major way. If those things aren't a concern or storage is a larger concern, go for the kilos. I'd want to have some one ounces on hand if you don't already, though.

>>56226533
>How do we get Gucci to mint bullion?
Hell, even I'd go out of my way for 1oz Au by Balenciaga.

>>56226418
>What am I in for?
A nice heft.

>>56226479
>Kilos are comfy. They're the perfect weight for use as a weapon. There's something comforting in knowing you can bludgeon someone to death with your chosen financial instrument.

Can confirm, kilos are primo fondlebars and also their own stack-guardians if wielded right.

Nice Teller had 2 hand rolls of 50c pieces today. I got both found 1x 40% in each roll. Made my day.

>>56226626
I tried going to my bank once to get a roll of half dollars and they looked at me like two extra heads sprouted from my shoulders after they understood what I wanted.

>>56226631

>>56226631
how to avoid this...

>>56226652
>>56226666
stick to coins.
Yes, they can be faked but not as easily as bars.

>>56226626
Are you the anon living near a bunch of retirees? That's a tidy haul for just 2 rolls, hopefully they have more from that deposit tucked away somewhere.

>>56226626
Lucky duck, I haven't seen any 40% or 90% in the wild since I started stacking last year.

>>56226331
Libertad onzas

>>56226666
Quads checked
Buy from reputable dealers. Fakes are everywhere.
Begs the question... who's gonna buy from you?

>>56226666
I have never seen or even heard about a passing fake gold bar or coin. The density of gold makes it very difficult to fake. The fake gold you see on alibaba has a steel core so not only is it too light, it is also magnetic. But if you are worried, buy from a reputable dealer and you will not have any problems.

Bros I want to start stacking but I’m not sure where to start would I be better off buying individual oz rounds or go for 10 oz bars? Should I worry about any specific mints? I’m 21 and just trying to start saving up some sort of retirement/generational wealth to pass on not planning to sell anytime soon.

>>56226716
How much cash do u have? Debts?

>>56226666
don't buy american

>>56226716
Start with one ounce and then move up in weight when your stack gets big. Don't get over-extended. Slow and steady wins this race.

>>56226707
fellow white men

>>56226716
Also would I be better off buying the gold dip instead even if I can only afford fractional?

>>56226727
Is that candy?

>>56226666
>>56226675
>>56226675
>stick to coins.
>Yes, they can be faked but not as easily as bars.
Just download Pingcoin or Precious coin tester app. These apps test the sonic signature of coins and are literally impossible(!) to defeat if the coin is not made from the accurate alloy and dimension.

>>56226740
93% Tungsten 7% copper, gold plated. To keep the density same as 22karat gold

>>56226727

>>56226725
Was looking to buy between $300-400 right now will have roughly $700-800 to invest monthly after all my bills only debt is car payment included in bills

>>56226751
even a sigma can get it wrong sometimes. I doubt your shitty app is any better

>>56226751
Before I knew about these apps I was literally avoiding cold coins at all cost and only bought silver coins because their fakes are of lower quality and easier to detect but with these sonic signature apps even private people can easily and cheaply detect all gold fakes (unless it's fake collectable coins with real gold but the collectors value is so high that it's worth faking them with real gold)

>>56226765
Buy a 10oz bar every month
Pay off your fucking car loan
Have a minimum of 3 months of income in cash

>>56226582
Young Nigger World indeed. Just hit my first brick

>>56226793
Thank you anon I appreciate this. Im trying to pay car down a little bit more and trade it in and get something cheap in cash by the end of the year also.

>>56226828
Why? What is it? What are your loan terms?

>>56226826
what am I looking at

>>56226780
What's a sigma?
These apps measure the resonance frequencies since different metals have different sonic properties. Anything other than the real thing will have a very different sonic signature.

>>56226754
Says who? I'm skeptical.

Even so, won't pass a ping test, a sigma test, or a deformation test.

Where did all these fucking jews and third worlders come from? We’ve had a bunch of 1pbtid fuddies, and some jeet shilling his shitty app. What the fuck happened to /biz/?

>>56226864
It failed the Sigma test which is why it was cut

>>56226835
4 door sedan $13,000 4 year loan down to $7000 something I want to trade it for a used work truck because I’m a welder and I’m missing out on side work not being able to take my shit mobile

>>56226826
>Confederate flags
>Clearly posting from Australia
You okay dude?

>>56226727
>>56226631
People who fake bullion should be fucking drawn and quartered, they screw over so many people every year
PSA: don’t buy Chinese shit

In a fake coin, the sonic peaks will always be located at very different locations.

Most fakes are only made in order to defeat people who either only weigh their coins or some fancy places that only use X-ray Fluorescence Spectrometers. These are pretty boss-tier devices but only measure the surface composition.

>>56226707
Anyone else ever toyed with the idea of getting a decoy safe and putting a few of these in there?

Acheter-Or-Argent has some good prices on french junk, if anyone wants any (collectors?) I'm probably not gonna buy any because the resale value isn't nearly as gud as .999

>>56226926
Decoy safe isn't necessary if you use your brain and don't brag about your stash to people.

>>56226926
i genuinely have a fake credit Suisse bar that i use as a decoy. if a future doctor breaks in odds are he'd find that before the actual schizostash (it's in my floorboards)

>>56226926
Depends if your place is big enough. Might be sufficient to just camouflage the main safe and leave a decoy stash out in the open..

/pmg/'s thoughts on soccer moms starting to stack?

>>56226960
>(it's in my floorboards)
Nice try, Anon, now we know it's in the ceiling.

>tfw comfy digging through a bag of coins I've made out of spare change over years and years
Found a few neat years, nothing silver yet. I had a 1990 half dollar in here too. Maybe I'll get lucky and strike some silver.

>>56226913
Also you can use PingCoin for non-listed coins and rounds, if their dimensions are very close to some listed coin. Rarely you can get 3/3 in this case, because surface geometry is still different, but you can get 2/3 which can be a good (but not perfect) proof that a coin is 999.

>>56226978
> PAMP suisse
> lady fortuna
Those are premium bars. How is some discount store selling them? Doesn't really make much sense.

ahh yes you're miraculously out of stock now the price has fallen low, fucking jews

Is secondary market worth the discount?

>price drops
>all the gold is sold out or unavailable on the main store i use
>go to back up store
>same

fucking lol, i hope it stays low for like a month and they are forced to sell lower, looks like im shopping in person

>>56226372
Yup.

doesn't matter how low it goes if nobody will fucking sell you any

>>56227082
These prices aren't even that good. In July-August I could buy gold krugs under 1800 euros, weiners under 24 euros. They're gonna have to dump eeet better than this.

I was gonna buy 3 last night but I waited and now its rising

>>56226675
Seconding this, coins are easier to verify than bars.
>>56226751
Exactly, the acoustic properties of metallic vibrations can't be faked. Every metal has its own unique properties. Gold and Tungsten might have the same density, but they sound completely different. I didn't care for the coin test apps so I wrote my own program in python that works even better.

>>56226978
>/pmg/'s thoughts on soccer moms starting to stack?

It's an alarming development anon, if it gains traction and lots of housewives start stacking now then the post-crash supply/demand dynamic could support FWTDHWs charging TWO merc dimes. Absolutely unconscionable, how do we stop this?

>>56226978
Just WTDHADOLA

>>56226848
Device to test metal content

>>56227423
>paying merc dimes in exchange from handyman services from formerly comfortably married husbands

>>56227034
>Is secondary market worth the discount?

More details are necessary m8, are you a bong trying to get around VAT on new silver? Some anons have bought pre-owned gold that was supposed to be BU and gotten coins with problems like nasty distracting scratches or ruined cases which spoiled it for them.

>>56227423
Stop teaching women math and how to read.

>>56227204
they really aren't that good. premiums definitely seem like they've gone up.

>>56227423
>how do we stop this?
Become FUD shills.

>>56226631
>Ayyo mama... i did it again

>>56226416
As long as I can tell what you're sharing that you have i don't mind weak photography. Definitely not the best backdrop, nice stack

>>56227280
Depends on the bars, no? I'd love to see some chink or jeet in a basement machining RCM security features into their counterfeit bars

>>56227753
Plus if it’s not a a “premium” bar and it’s just poured shit, you can always cut into it

>>56227753
I think you underestimate chink ingenuity

>>56226895
Oh no, but I bought a Chinese panda yesterday. What should I do? Won't someone tell me what to do?

>>56226895
What about from an LCS?

We’re fucking mooning boys. No brakes

>>56227839
Not yet please, still stacking. Only a little over 200oz silver and 2oz gold

>>56227863
Still a respectable amount fren.

>>56227423
>implying it’s soccer moms.
It’s middle aged men buying them up. And scalpers that don’t understand that nobody will be buying a “totally genuine PAMP Suisse Lady Fortuna” on ebay 80% over spot.

>>56227879
Nice to hear than considering being so new. Started stacking right when the SVB scandal happened. My dad is jealous I don't have a nagging wife preventing me from buying dips whenever I please.

Alright guys, let's see those stack guardians!

Silver is going back to 20 when gold dips to $1775

>>56227959
If silver goes back to 20 I’ll be buying an entire paycheck full.

>>56227903
Aim for a 100:1 silver:gold ratio for a while. Just saying.

>>56227969
Exactly what I've been doing, it was perfect timing this week to get my second gold ounce

>>56227938
>let's see those stack guardians!

I can make a Nig-kebab 4 Jamals deep with mine.

>>56227986
Cool FUD too bad I buy small coins.

>>56227993
so do i

>>56228000
Checked.

When is Gayhorse gunna make some bars to sell

>>56228000
>>56228011

checked

>>56227938
Am I doin it right?

>>56227467
They're expensive though. Checking the sound is free.

>>56228050
>Am I doin it right?

Looks good to me

>>56228047
oof

>>56227880
>And scalpers that don’t understand that nobody will be buying a “totally genuine PAMP Suisse Lady Fortuna” on ebay 80% over spot.

Do normies really? Who is braindead enough to drop 1800+ on such a hopeless scalping hustle, have you seen listings like that?

what are the financial and metals implication of costco members being able to buy gold at costco? are they gonna start selling silver now too?

what if big retailers just start selling metals ? how will this cut into the business of bullion shops?

Any update on the Crusader? I've tempted to ask for a refund.

>>56228093
>oof
I'll recover someday anon, I think...

>>56228154
sounded like art was finalized a couple of weeks ago. i haven't seen an update but would think it should be getting close. what did you all order?

>>56226416
You could own land that would appreciate and be renting it out but instead you post pictures of shiny stuff on an anonymous forum

>>56227821
>I bought a Chinese panda yesterday. What should I do? Won't someone tell me what to do?

A good start would be to *not* buy soulless modern gold bullion where "60% off the premium!" still leaves you paying a premium of 23%

>>56228206
One of each, the silver and the gilded.

>>56227987
Halberdly based beyond human understanding.

>>56228216
What universe do you live in that the laws of physics dictate you can only own one or the other and not both?

>>56228254
his stack exists therefore it is not land he owns that is appreciating and being rented out, low IQ anon

After two months of keeping a very strict budget to get my monthly expenses sort (ie. I am paying bills with last month's wages instead of this month's). I just popped my bullion cherry on 15oz of silver. Very excited for them to arrive.

>>56228266
Checked and congratulations! Welcome to /pmg/ fren.

>>56228251
my name is paige hill: i am scum; i live on a hill; therefore; i tongue anus

>>56226376
I thought gold outpaced inflation in Weimar Germany.

>>56227280
Anon can you elaborate on the code any more? How did you do it??

>>56228277
Back at you and thanks newfren.

>>56227903
hey I have the same thing, neat! im pretty nautical so I wanted it to hold onto it so I can look at it.

slurp

would you expect to get spot for 1 ducat re-strikes?

>Put an advertisement on craigslist stating lm a guy in my early 20's looking to fuck a woman in their 50's.
>Get multiple replies before craigslist deletes my post
>Put my kik account in the desciption hoping that somebody replies
>They all only email me before eventually stop replying.
What am l doing wrong??????

I also slurrped the dip today guys, it was good.

>>56228263
>his stack exists therefore it is not land he owns that is appreciating and being rented out, low IQ anon

And what profitable rental property in an amenable tax jurisdiction in a prospering and demographically sound region where such a property will reliably appreciate do you propose anon purchase with his $10-15k?

It's OK we'll be patient. This is /biz/ so we're used to garden-variety midwits of your caliber visiting /pmg/, but I'm sure your answer will be well worth the wait.

>>56228391
you owned that bitch

>>56228232
You sound jealous of the Chinese panda coins (^:

>>56228410
It's stupid trying to go into an eloquency contest against scrapfren, he master the bants and classical verbum like Cyrano. Newfags learn eventually, but not before getting roasted enough for them to understand why it was a stupid idea.

Finally - a month and ten days later, gainesvillecoins sends me an e-mail my silver's being shipped. I can't even remember what I ordered. Gonna be like Christmas.

>>56227969
>100:1 silver:gold ratio
People always say this for physicals, but do you actually use it to trade the ratio? I'd imagine it might actually be pretty difficult to just go out and liquidate a bunch of silver for gold or gold for silver all at once.

I hate the condoms the bars come. Any "one size fits all" cases for 10oz silver bars?

>>56228483
leave them bareback. They are meant to be played with

>>56227987
Unfathomably based and martial superiority-pilled
>>56227938
[eurobeat intensifies]

I'm so jealous of boomers. My parents have been poor my entire life but even they have a bunch of gold and silver they got cheap back in the day. I was just chatting about gold and they showed it to me, about 15k worth of jewellery

>>56228263
Again, I ask where you live that anons stack existing means they can't/won't/don't own land. I would love to visit a place where it's impossible to own both. Is it the same land I've heard some anons talk about were you can't own ammo and PMs? Or is this some new fantastic place I haven't heard of yet?

>>56226666
Thanks for your question giga satan. Only buy from reputable dealers. Also if you're not a retard you can tell the fakes. They look goofy AF and they're suspiciously cheap

>>56228483
Apmex has some as well as onfireguy on ebay.

>>56226994
Good luck fren! Coin hunting is addictive. I circulated about $1,000 in my sub-20,000 pop. Town within 2 weeks and found many shiny copper pennies, and even some silver dimes and quarters. The bank tellers all looked at me like i was hoarding all the change (i was), since our area had a bad coin shortage at the time. Not to mention i would take the zinc pennies and throw them at yiddish-looking folks on my downtime

>>56227938
Reporting

>>56228416
>You sound jealous of the Chinese panda coins

Me being envious of anything Chinese of any sort made in the last century is laughable, but being envious of mass-produced, aesthetically unremarkable, underweight, overpriced and fundamentally soulless modern Chinese bullion featuring a useless animal that those bugmen nearly drove to extinction because they couldn't be bothered to find pigs or chickens instead for their gutter-oil gastronomy is completely absurd. If you actually find all of that attractive for some reason then YDY and keep slurping those 23% premiums, perhaps I'm just too White to understand the appeal.

>>56227938

1x full sovereign or 1/4 britannia?

Liberty is running out of coins, had to buy two of these instead of the cheaper Napoleon III.

$350.20 each after cashback.

>>56228410
>>56228391
>>56228462
Housing has outperformed gold and silver for decades and that doesn't even include rent money, my low IQ friends

>>56228766
Save for a full ounce of a Britannia with Liz on it

>>56228809
£1560 on one coin just feels like too much. I can afford it, I just feel like I'd regret it sitting there with my 1 shiny instead of 4 or 5

>>56228829
That's about $1900. Great price right now. I do have my couple gold coins next to my small mound of silver so it really is choose your own adventure. If you're financially stable have some fun with what is basically your savings account. Better have it in your hands than a number in some bank.

>>56228772
Sure, and everyone here advocates for owning land as well as PMs. So I will ask you, where do you live that you can't own both?

>>56228858
The answer is always Wyoming and God bless you if you can somehow enjoy living that way.

>>56228772
Wow, it took you over 80 minutes to come up with that pathetic non-answer? It appears that I mistakenly insulted all midwits by including you in their number, now there's no question that you're just an abject retard.

>>56228772

Remove the ability to buy via a loan from the bank and how many people actually have the capital to buy a home outright?

The same answer implies that the currency you use to shit on bullion is INFLATED to a degree that it REQUIRES a BANK to buy a house now.

>>56228557
Growing up my mother would frequently buy a gold charm for her charm bracelet when we went on vacation to somewhere special. My entire childhood she would wear this charm bracelet to PEO meetings and whatever else without really thinking about it. We got it out recently to check on and weighed it and it's 4oz of 18k-24k gold.

>>56228216
Don't forget to pay the yearly taxes on that land you "own"

>>56228894
>non-answer
Just because you don't understand doesn't mean it's not correct low IQ anon

>>56228153
Costco have sold gold for years. The question is, what are the implications of this being in the news.

>>56228871
Wyoming is beautiful, and looking online the average per acre is a bit over 1500 bucks. I can't imagine how you could live there and not afford to own land, guns, and PMs. Unless I'm missing something.

How do I avoid counterfeits?

>>56227938
Coomer kitty reporting.

>>56228940
Do:
Buy from a reputable dealer.

Don’t:
Order from RanjeshPatel368843651 on ebay

>>56228766
The LMU will have a lower premium. At the end of the day it's about getting more gold for you buck, isn't it?

>>56228969
>the LMU
pardon?

>>56228982
Welcome back, Mr. IQDELEET

>>56228989
no, I think you misunderstood what I meant by sovereign and you're wrong about the premiums too

>>56228982
I said LMU out of habit, I meant the Sovereign. They are usually cheaper per actual gold weight than a newly minted coin.

>>56226372
Gary savage called a "close enough" bottom last night

>>56228982
Like pic related. Latin Monetary Units. Some sites call them "European Sovereigns". Gold used as currency in the late 19th / early 20th centuries.
Restrikes are even less pricey.

>>56228871
Brutal winters.

>>56226696
>someones breech is about to get loaded

>>56228922
>I not dum, u dum!!

Yes yes, very impressive performance my poor shitwit anon but that's still not an answer to my original question. Please ask a literate family member to read it aloud for you and then try *really* hard this time, I'm sure you can do it kiddo!

>>56229010
IDK what that has to do with the british sovereign coin I was talking about. The premium on those euro coins is much higher than a sov here in the UK

>>56229033
>The premium on those euro coins is much higher than a sov here in the UK
That would be something new, possibly because they became so popular due to their classically low premiums.
It's always good to research before buying. Congrats on having the wherewithal to do that.

>>56228999
>misunderstood
>>56229033
>premium on those euro coins is much higher than a sov here in the UK

bong asking on an USA forum about things he should know about by now. please do not reproduce

>>56229117
>USA forum
japanese imageboard. dumb mutt

>>56229142

What's about to happen?

>>56229204
20092

>>56229196
I could embarrass you with statistical comparisons but I think it's rather off-topic and frankly, beneath me. Like mocking a dog.

>>56229204
Honestly fren, Im not sure. I presume things will get worse, globally. The best we can do is lower our expectations and prepare for the worst. Im a leaf and am terrified of currency debasement.

>>56229204
Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing (won't be nothing)
Nothing you can measure anymore
There'll be the breaking of the ancient
Western code
Your private life will suddenly explode
There'll be phantoms
There'll be fires on the road
And the white man dancing

All major economic crises happened in september and october. Buckle up. Two more wekks.

>>56228153
When I saw this in the news I went all in on gold. This is the start of the consumer FOMO that will cause gold to moon just like crypto did.

>>56229285
4 year anniversary of Covid's first articles, don't worry about it

>>56229323
Just in time for election season. HOW STRANGE.

>>56229297
Gold won't moon until they let it. Prepare for a long dark winter.

>>56229328
If it's a dark winter we slurp, if it moons we'll be rich. Either way we win.

>>56226666
buy eagles or buffaloes. faking those changes the offense from fraud to counterfeiting US currency, the secret service gets involved.

>>56228557
its all cumulative. I've got about 50k of jewelry that I've got for around scrap with a small amount slightly over spot. If I have cash on hand and something comes up on ebay or from scrap dealers that I know locally -- and I even halfway want to wear it or give it to my wife-- I buy it.

I know that for some of it I will lose 25% immediately if I sell it for scrap, but I feel like if you are buying for long term holding but I feel that if you enjoy wearing it (which has value in itself) it is worth it since it will surpass the premium you paid over the long term.

I got pic related for my wife but it hasn't come yet. 1250USD + 100USD shipping for 25g of 18k gold. If the diamonds are even half decent quality it'll look pretty good I'm sure.

The funny thing is that if you have real gold jewelry -- even if it's out of style -- people think you're rich. I wear 10k watches and nobody says anything but when I wear a pin with 5g of gold people look at it and say "you must be doing very well for yourself these days".

>>56226953
somewhat disagree. saves are the grail that burglars are looking for. if you have an open safe with some fake coins they'll grab the junk and bounce.

if they don't have something they think is valuable to take they will stick around looking for valuables. decoy safes IMO are a real good thing to have.

The big question is how to store your real valuables in a way that is accessible to you but not easily found by burglars.

>Gold spot price has flat lined
I'll be disappointed if it doesn't dump anymore by the time the market closes.

>>56229463
The big question is why are you making yourself such a target for getting robbed that you're paranoid about it? Or are you just a richfag larping?

>>56229485
You think people that get their houses robbed made themselves a target? I guess if owning things is "making yourself a target" then yeah you are right, what were they thinking? Shit like this happens all over the world, every single day. It's not paranoid to take measures to prevent a huge loss.

>>56229485
rich is a relative term. I save money and enjoy buying gold and silver. every piece of gold I buy is a lot of hours worked and I do NOT want to lose it. Simple as.

>>56229500
This anon is a tough guy larper
>>56229503
You get it

>>56229511
>Contradictory statements and/or incoherent jibberish

>>56229025
You never had a rebuttal for my original post because you had no argument

>>56229524
You're just butthurt your larp was trashed by why we actually buy and hold these assets.

>>56229463
I like the idea of keeping a decoy safe that's JUST light enough for the future astronaut to manage to load into a car with a lot of effort. Then when he gets home and pries his way into the thing all he finds is a load of bricks and a picture of my cock.

>>56229555
>Oops, you found my lead-lined safe full of spicy rocks! Enjoy the cobalt, I guess you needed it more than me.

>>56229545
What larp? Recognizing property crime and break-ins? And not wanting to lose my stack?

>>56229566
yeah, it's a very strange comment. Even small savings adds up to big amounts over time and everyone that has saved a decent amount knows how much time and effort goes into what they own.

The watch I am wearing right now took a year of savings even though I got a good deal and bought it from a scrap dealer at spot + 10 or so percent (I can't remember exactly). I DO NOT WANT TO LOSE IT

>>56228266
whitnessed

>>56227204
I have a weiner you can have for free

Should I pay off my house early or keep stacking? I’ve got $300k left on a 3.25%, and currently only have 10/450 oz Au/Ag.

>>56229631
Forgot to add, after cost of living I have about $8k cash left over every month. Currently paying off some debts and building a 6 month emergency fund, but after that, I’m free to do what I like with it.

>>56229418
>when I wear a pin with 5g of gold people look at it and say "you must be doing very well for yourself these days
Wait until i organize the next family meeting and give my guests 1750's sets of silverware from king Louis the XVth personal collection.
Don't care they wont be able to eat anything because the forks have uneven teeth lenghts, it still will be the final flex.

>>56229638
If I were you I'd want to get that stack to 10/1000 and pay off the house. Owning outright will minimize chances of bank shenanigans if things go tits up(on top of leaving g you with more investment money) but it won't take you long at all to build a nice stack with 8k/month left over.

>>56229631
I'd suggest paying off your debts ASAP so you can stack without worry.

>>56226331
test

Stacklets are actually fucked. What's the term? Something about crypto nerds and something else

>>56229755
If only there were a cat with a fat ass around here to jog your memory.

Silver recover quite nicely today. For gold it's much more tame for the moment.

>>56229755
>>56229772
She found a bf

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u3PHVk9HyKQ

>>56229792
Is the copper price in oz?

>>56229867

Lol, no silly.

>>56229867
ahah you are a fun one, anon!

>>56228328
Did you just call shrekanon a newfag?

>>56229755
crypto and metals are different asset classes.

>>56227423

>it would be unconscionable

Show foreskin Moshe.

>>56229204

Pic related is going to happen. Is happening.

>>56229500

>You think people that get their houses robbed made themselves a target?

The answer is patently, obviously, YES you dipshit. Of course they did.

Something about the house, it’s contents or the owner made Tyrone and Jamarquious think the Risk/Reward balance was suitable for risking their lives and freedoms for.

Granted the average negroid doesn’t employ much critical thinking. But either way they see your house - they see something they want. So don’t give them that excuse, while at the same time still hardening your internal defence options.

>>56228266

Checked and Awesome. You’ve taken a fundamental step into a brave new world, Anon. >>56228925

Theoretically speaking, If I wanted to buy 1million dollars of gold and 1 million dollars of silver, what would be the safest and most reliable way to get said shiny rocks?

>>56230170
I have no idea, but whatever you do do not buy it all at once; unironically 1 million dollars worth of gold in today's money would be worth the government's time and resources to confiscate.

>>56230170
Stack it slowly. I’d do maybe 5oz(Au) and 100oz(Ag)/month. It’s slow, but it won’t but you on anyone’s radar.

>>56228216
Such a great time to buy land, when inflationary banking has driven the prices into a frenzied bubble. What could go wrong? Hahahaha.

>>56230212
Private sale can help you hide the amount you accumulate, though you are exposed to more risk.

>>56228296
Gold survives hyperinflation. Always. Gold survives the collapse of world empires. Always. In the short term, with 20/20 hindsight, some fuds might cherry-pick other assets that outperformed gold. But nothing is safer in the long run.

>>56228321
I actually described this way back in the very first /pmg/ thread when I had started developing a proof-of-concept. This method uses the Kirchoff thin plate model to simulate gold and silver coins as a vibrating disc and generate the theoretical modal frequencies for them, then you can use a spectrograph to make sure that your actual coins are real by matching the observed frequencies to the theoretical ones. I got the idea from an article I read in the European Journal of Physics:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/276297204_The_music_of_gold_Can_gold_counterfeited_coins_be_detected_by_ear

What the fuck is happening in costco?

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/27/costco-is-selling-gold-bars-and-they-are-selling-out-within-a-few-hours.html

Post brutal moggings.

The soys are seething that Costco is selling gold.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37699396

>>56228655
tl;dr?

>see rounds at a good price
>order 4
>realize they say oz instead of toz
>think I didn't get duped but ordered 28g rounds
>they're technically >1toz
Odd.

>>56230712
If the weight is more, get it checked. You don't want iron rounds now do you?

>>56230712
I’d get that checked out. Looks a little off.

The fud suggesting that buying real estate and renting it out is a better use of your wealth than PMs is hilarious! In the USA anyway, commercial real estate is already in collapse and residential collapse is coming soon because both are based on an unsustainable debt bubble. And leasing out residential property is a huge risk. Not only can you get deadbeat and/or destructive tenants that are hard to evict and impossible to collect from, but the administrative branch of government has demonstrated that it is willing to simply suspend by unconstitutional order the terms of leases and relieve tenants of the obligation to pay rent and block eviction entirely.

And real estate is very easy to confiscate. It happens in virtually every revolution or coup. So called "land reform" (which means the abrogation of property rights) is a perennial event in the history of the world.

Buy gold and silver. It never fails. It never goes to zero. It is the hardest asset for government to confiscate.

>>56230435
Wow! The PM fuds are on the job with the same old script.

>>56230748
Why would Costco limit it to 2 bars?

>>56230723
>>56230739
So that's just it, non-magnetic [check], melt test [check], ping test [check].

>>56230815
Oops forgot image.

>>56228321
It also looks like the app this anon >>56226913 is using is based on the same principle. The three green circle symbols with white lines correspond to the vibrational modes listed in Fig 3.8 on page 74 of this book:
https://books.google.com/books?id=cBL5BwAAQBAJ&pg=PA65
This only difference is I'm using the first three (d2c0, d0c1, and d3c0) and this app appears to be using one (d2c0), three (d3c0), and five (d4c0), where d = # diameters and c = # of circles.

Who can help a fellow with $10, i really need something to eat . BTC


bc1q8nv5huyvkt5dewxpd9m8gmlg2j9elvg8ulsjpd

>>56230829
No one here has crypto you fucking mongoloid

>>56230170
Talk to your bank about cutting a large check. Talk to your LCS and let them talk to their broker to see if they can fill an order that large.

>>56230756
They used to limit how much toilet paper you could buy too

>>56229555
finally a use for all that tungsten!

I haven't listened to a Bitcoin Maxi in a while. These people really are fucking insane, aren't they?

https://youtu.be/zECVTxmb-DI?si=T1-OvMcsmq_3yPhu

>>56229755
heh

>>56230959
I can think of a few uses for tungsten. They just require a bit of extra investment.

So I was at the store. There's this young goy in the store with his overweight girlfriend selling his dad's silver coins to the shop.
>He says "the markets been up and down recently. Idk what's going on"
>The merchant says "aw yeah, you know market dynamics blah blah"
>I say "oh yeah dude yom kippur and rosh hashanah just happened"
>The merchant looks at me knowingly
>I buy two Krugs for $58

>>56230659
>tl;dr?

Subhuman bugmen eat pandas, pic related.

Bought them for fun, feels funny

>>56229652
>Don't care they wont be able to eat anything because the forks have uneven teeth lenghts, it still will be the final flex.

Based, they'll all feel like plebs when presented with such patrician treasures and be subconsciously indebted to you from then on.

>>56231087
I kneel.

>economy is doing well
>metals go down
>economy is doing poorly
>metals go down

>>56231588
You cunts better fucking start making those metals go down. I want to buy moar!

>>56231588
I stay stacking.

>>56231484
5 kilo bars of copper would be an amusing thing to play with those are cool anon, but I am wondering what the meaning of picrel is? Are they trying to appeal to MtF trannoids, or are they saying that after SHTF we'll be paying FWTDHWs with copper instead of merc dimes?

>>56231879
Cant explain that lol
I bought 12 of them, i unsealed one to touch and experiment with.
Lets see when it turns green

>>56231879
>The Venus symbol, , consists of a circle with a small cross below it. It has been interpreted as a depiction of the hand-mirror of the goddess, which may also explain Venus's association with the planetary metal copper, as mirrors in antiquity were made of polished copper (alloy),[14] though this is not certain.[4] In the Greek Oxyrhynchus Papyri 235, the symbols for Venus and Mercury did not have the cross on the bottom stroke,[4] and Venus still appears without the cross () in Johannes Kamateros (12th century)[citation needed].

>>56226884
Kek

>>56230712
that's a fake

>>56231879
meds

>>56230756
They tease their customers that way. They also have limited-time offers regularly. It's a way to get customer to impulse buy.

The whole Costco selling gold thing got me thinking, it would be incredibly easy for companies to accept gold for payment if things got serious enough.

Example for Costco: Anon brings his 1/10 ozt gold coin to the customer service counter. Lady behind counter verifies it with sigma, gives anon a Costco shop card worth its value. Anon then stocks up on groceries and spends the balance on the card at checkout. Seems simple enough, thoughts?

>>56232109
Correct. Gold and silver have not been money for three thousand years because they are hard to use.

This morning I checked silver spot and it was +88 cents. I just checked and now it's -20 cents. What is going on???

>>56232146
This would be an interim measure companies would use until a pm currency is restored making transactions run smoother.

>>56232184
Annudah shoah.

that fuckin dip
knew I shouldn't have bought yesterday

>>56232109
>Costco selling gold
Aaaaand the price collapses shortly afterwards. What a surprise.

>>56232184
If it keeps rubber banding like that for too long it’s going to fly. Too bad it’s Friday. Would love to see it keep going unabated for a few days.

>>56232222
giga checked

>>56232227
you boughted for us anon so we may have more cheapies, thank you for your service

>>56232105
Its more than that:
1. It keeps customers coming back. Moreover, it keeps them re-upping their membership. The bars are clearly a sort of loss-leader for them.
2. Limiting the numbers means that more people get to buy them. This means more memberships. If they did not limit it, then some bot would just buy them all up at once and nobody would be buying memberships to get their chance to beat a robot to the click.
3. Because more people can buy them, more people are likely to get the word out so that their friends/family can buy them. This also drives membership.

Its ALL about the membership fees for them here.

>>56232208
I realize now that my funky grammar was ambiguous. Let me try again. One of the main reasons gold and silver have been used as money for three thousand years is because they are easy to use. You describe it perfectly. Time for more coffee.

>>56226331
I found a good deal on junk silver. Should I get dimes, quarters, or half’s?

quick! buy all your cheapies before they jewout and remove all the silver from the online shops guys!

>>56232328
all of them

>>56232227
Regardless of a dip it'll be worth more later anyway

Dr Boris can help you find German nice ones at a reasonable price. Thank you Dr. Boris.

>>56232358
thinking of buying more right now before it goes back up...

>>56232313
No problemo anon, here is a merc for your thoughts, I need to take new pics...
>>56232328
Half's easily, online dealers will charge more for 90% half's compared to the others. Also keep in mind silver loss due to usage, dimes and quartiers were more heavily used so they are more often slick compared to halves which were hoarded. Dealers sell by face value not weight for this reason.

>>56232388
The downward pressure is amazing. Probably 'cause I just boughted a gold oz.

>>56232006
>>56231985
Ah that's neat, so it's one of several different premodern alchemical notation symbols for copper. One of the symbols for iron is awfully familiar too. I looked for examples of Heimerle-Meule's silver bars and some of them are stamped with the lunar crescent alchemical symbol as well, I don't recall seeing anyone else doing this but it's pretty cool.

>>56232109
>>56232146
>>56232208
Its almost as if we should make a currency that is easily handled, broken down, and passed around that is backed by gold and silver.

Amazing how Costco shook the market so hard just by being a known reseller pawning cheapies

>>56232001
See >>56230815

>>56227015
>Costco buys 50,000 ounces of Gold to achieve maximum quantity discount.
>Sells for like $20 profit per bar.

It's really not that hard to grasp. If they wanted they could single handedly destroy what remains of Silver Eagle premiums by buying dump trucks full of Eagles and selling for a 50 cent profit on each.

>>56226331
I'm ready to back up that truck!

>>56232477
Why has no one thought of doing that before? Imagine if Amazon did that.

>>56230170
I'd honestly call miles Franklin liberty and finance at that point.

Costco 1 oz gold bars aren’t being sold and will not ship to my area. I’m mad.

>>56232638
They're sold out anon

It's been 84 years...

>>56226494
today is a great day to buy whatever you want. i like getting gold jewlrey for my woman, and silver for my stack. i too like the sovereign coins. i cashed out my 401k, as i dont think the usd will be worth much of anything by the time that pays out, and i dont use a savings account anymore. cashed out for silver. a good bet is to just stack whats on sale. hit the deals tab on monument metals and do whatever suits you. maybe some 1/4oz gold, or a stack of dimes if you like small coins.

constitutional coinage is usually $1.40 face value pr troy oz, or a $10 face value tube is 7.15 ozt.

grab yourself 4, $10 tubes of silver, some fractional british or canadian gold. thats pretty much what i was planning on this next paycheck.

oh i just checked monument, they have an old gold frank you might like

>>56232425
The symbols for those metals is associated with solar system bodies. These symbols are also used in certain instances by astronomers.

What silver should I stack next? I don't want generic rounds right now.

>>56226960
i do a simmilar thing, and my local pawn shop has a fake bar they keep out on the tool shelf. if a junkie steals it they press charges. i returned it to the counter and now i get discounts. its pretty rad!

>>56233059
Asahi dragon rounds.

>>56233003
>Earth symbol
That's different to the one I know. It appears the symbols are inconsistent across different schools.

>>56226960
i just leave out fake bundles of prop money next to a cheap walshart safe with a few inside of it, i don't think future engineers or doctors will look at it close detail, they want to just be in and out.

>>56233120
Old picture, I already bought 20 of those

NEW FRIDAY BREAD
>>56233218
>>56233218
>>56233218

>>56233059
Silver from the 1980's is peak. Engelhard, USVI, Hoffman and Hoffman, older Sunshine Mining or A-Mark's, Johnson Matthey etc.

>>56233238

>>56228772
did you forget to answer every one of his questions? or do you just not know how? its okay bro, i used to have really silly ideas about communism in high school. the trick is to look at the question he asked you and try to answer each part of it. then, once you realize there isnt a good answer, accept you are wrong and learn from it. dont be wrong about the same thing twice if you can help it.

and try not to rely on iq jokes like that, they dont really land well in circles where we judge based on post quality like here. it comes across as elitist and if your argument is sub par, then it actually makes you seem like the silly one.

i wish you the best, and hope you learn from what you read here today.

>>56228266
im so proud of you anon, i know your wisdom and investments will continue to serve you well.

>>56233126
I hadn't noticed, but you're right. I know it as a circle plus sign inside cutting it into four equal slices.

>>56232403
All Kennedy halves but still pretty cool.

>>56233126
I hadn't noticed, but you're right. I know it as a circle plus sign inside cutting it into four equal slices.
Pic fixed.

>>56226416
Based Asahi stacker. Such a pure design for a dirt cheap premium

>>56229867
Someday. Just someday.

>>56229867
In case you're serious... pounds avdp.

>>56233059
wieners since they're cheap or arks

>>56232681
I realize that, but they weren’t even going to sell them to me regardless. Das discriminashun. Totally would’ve bought two.