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>>56217393
>he baked

When do I short oil? Surely it can’t keep going up forever? That is my entire thesis.

Just found out my manager (a 55yo boomer) listens to Sabaton
I don't know what this means but I think it's pretty bearish

>>56217407
shorting is generally a bad idea

>https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/antitrust-lawsuit-accuses-amazon-of-harming-consumers-and-small-businesses

I wonder if this antitrust suit against Amazon will even do anything for the stock price. Must be pretty bullish if they either have to separate a bunch of businesses or just outright sell them off for a pretty penny(I saw normies on Twitter freak out that Twitch could get sold off KEK).

>Kevin O’Leary says a coming real estate collapse will lead to ‘chaos’ and banks "are going to fail because up to 40% of their portfolio is in commercial real estate."

Do you guys believe that or nah?

>>56217407
>Surely it can’t keep going up forever
Well obviously.
haha.
unless..

>gold holders keep getting rekt

>>56217401
USDJPY

>>56217439
I would only believe commercial real estate was actually at risk if companies weren't demanding employees come back to the office and if the government planned on doing another coof lockdown. Companies are demanding employees come back to the office or get fired and work elsewhere, and I sincerely don't see lockdowns happening again and the idea of them is just to freak people out. Half the country wouldn't do them and the other half would chimp the fuck out from the proles to the pros about how it hit their bottom line, and especially with no stimmies and no PPP fuckery anyone could get a gorrillion dollars from it's not happening. Companies would lose their goddamned minds about it, people would be getting voted out in the very next election for not listening to their owners.

I think O'Leary isn't his real last name, I think he killed a woman in Canada driving his boat drunk like an asshole, and I think he's parroting old talking points because he's got a hand so far up his ass it's moving his tongue.

>>56217393
>TXN
Jesus, talk about a short opportunity.

>>56217466
buy?

>>56217439
>commercial real estate
yeah, the office buildings in major cities will become worthless and totally couldn’t just be converted to condos and the hotels that are booked solid by the government to house refugees are totally going to default

Oil bros... we just can't stop winning

>>56217491
>converted to condos and the hotels
That both takes years and is incredibly expensive. You may as well take every empty skyscraper, 9/11 it, and collect the insurance money.

>>56217475
What? No, that's a garbage chart.

>>56217518
>>56217491
>>56217439
ehh we got some time on the clock

>>56217491
>Hotels filled with (((refugees)))

Jesus, imagine the smell. Those buildings are gonna end up like those office buildings in Johannesburg when they got invaded by ghouls KEK

>>56217518
Holy shit imagine some giga Die Hard scenario where the top 3 tallest buildings are pulled.

i bought XLE shares too late and i didn't buy calls.

Anyone watching this republican debate? 2 street shitters 1 nigger a wetback moderator and 5 faggots lol

Imagine real estate in the USA turning into another apartheid situation kek, I'm gonna short so many stocks

>>56217462
My company (one of the largest banks in Canada) wants us back in the office but decided to sell our office building to lease a smaller/shittier one farther away.

I think the back to office bullshit is just to make people quit rather than laying us off.

Why did bbbyq go up 86%? They said it was going away on the 30th. Did I get tricked?

>>56217603
It's for more than one reason yes, getting tenured employees to leave to replace them with newer cheaper workers is no small part of it. The bigger part is a lot of companies own a lot of real estate and are paying out the ass for something they no longer need after the mass migration to WFH during the coof, so rather than eating shit on the note and losing billions and pissing off everyone grifting off it they just declare WFH over and dead and tell people to come in or find a different job. That's how you know the commercial real estate situation is real, because they did lose a ton of people in that move and many businesses ended up firing people they needed or quietly cutting deals with them to still do WFH and only come in rarely while demanding everyone else comes to the office.

just buy leaps on data centers

80% SNOW
20% GDM

simple as

>>56217617
It's a bankruptcy play so nobody knows how it ends, entirely up to the debtors and creditors to sort out in court like any other bankruptcy. Could go to nothing, could fly.

>>56217587
Forget real estate, look at NKE, FL, TGT, pretty much retailer other than AMZN is getting apartheid'd.

>>56217641
Damn I made a mistake selling then.

>>56217667
I would laugh if thieves start to wise up and go after AMZN warehouses in hordes. Not like those wagies get paid enough to defend their turf anyway kek.

>>56217587
The West has fallen.

What's the hottest pump and dump for October?

>lost $1.5k holding VTI
>was paid $1.5k dividend for holding VTI
I dunno bros, I think I'm gonna have to cash out and invest into something tangible.

does tradingview have sales for their plans? I think their recent watchlist restriction may succeed in converting me

>>56217518
>>56217558

Be wary of assets depreciated beyond their time.

>>56217759
As long as they keep promoting reuters advertising propaganda they won't get a single cent from me ever again. Goolag accounts are free.

>>56217759
they do a black friday sale and i think boxing day also. i don't pay. none of the stuff i use is paywalled.

WHEN I SAY GREAT,
YOU SAY DEPRESSION!!!
>GREAT!!!

>>56217676
Don't give scholars any ideas.

>>56217701
Uranium will moon during October then crash within 6 months.

>>56217802
There is a reason why every real computer nerd since to 80's to now still play Slayer at obnoxious levels every chance that they get.

GOD HATES US ALL

>>56217812
Uranium feels like last month's pump.

>>56217401

however long it takes Biden to demand Jerome's resignation

>>56217407

The US is trying to crush the global economy, while also trying to make nice with both Venezuela and Iran to get them to ramp their production.

However even with a near-term hiccup, global energy demand is basically infinite and electric cars are a meme, so long run oil will always win. I wouldn't try to short it personlly but U do U.

>Nikkei
>Hang Seng

>>56217763
>Be wary of assets depreciated beyond their time.
OH SHIT THAT'S ME.

>>56217826
You do know that the fed is independent for a reason. They can't just fire JP.

>>56217822
Miners and enrichers can do whatever, but we're just entering squeeze territory for physical buyers.

>>56217845
He's not some nigger in an office. Important positions of power do not work that way.

If they need to swap Powell for Krugman, some "unfortunate scandal" will break to force his resignation. Assuming he doesn't step down for "health" or "personal" reasons.

>>56217835
Nikkei has been overbought for awhile. It should be at 28k.

>>56217849
Physical could run another 10 bucks, but it'll be like oil these past few weeks. The producers are already capped out since they frontran the move.

>>56217845

If Jerome tanks the economy, Biden can remove him 'for cause'. That being crashing the economy in an election year as an act of election interference. ;)

The harder part is getting an easy money replacement confirmed. Jerome is tight with the big commercial banks and asset managers, and they have a lot of control of congress, and they want a recession, and frankly they'd be happen to see Biden shuffle off to a retirement home to sniff the nurses.

>>56217865
No shit. So should everything else

>>56217861
The cult really doesn't like punished powell despite him following the fomc bad eggs that suggested the pause. Good that he is a nun whose biggest sin is liking Greatful Dead. They won't get rid of him and I think he understands that he is the only thing between the current status quo and the US going full socialist dictatorship

>>56217879
There is some crazy internal war going on in US politics. I never thought I would be on the same page as Jamie, but here we are

>>56217701
maybe gold if it stabilizes
MARA, COIN next year
oil, uranium, bond yields too late to enter
idk

>>56217881
>full socialist dictatorship
Umm, excuse me chud, but not living in a third world dictatorship is dangerous to our democracy.

>>56217866
Look, it's simple: we're going to break $100 as utilities buy in October with their new budgets, then women, zoomers, and blacks on TikTok will hype it, then we dump our bags on them.

Somewhere in there Putin might press Rosatom into doing even more supply fuckery for the lulz but we'll see.

>>56217911
what an angel
it would be a lucky man who gets to call her 'wife'

is bobo's tyranny finally coming to an end?

>>56217826
Venzeula cant ramp production without massive investment which I think chevron might have started alluding too.

>>56217908
Is it really that hard if you are a communist?

>>56217971
If you like slavery and anti free market having am incompetent polit bureau tell you how many bananas you are allowed to import based on their crude models about the future, I guess not, but personally I like to decide on my own how models how many bananas to import

Bros
I just diagnosed myself (mid-30s) with a childhood developmental disorder
Maybe I'm not really cut out for all this finance stuff

>>56217932
I doubt it. Why would utilities race to bid, knowing that Sprott is lining up to offload pounds in a few more months once the pumpers lose interest and the trust gets its amendment to allow redemptions?
It's not like there's some urgent shortage. Still multiple years worth of consumption floating around in storage.

People who think uranium is gonna moon to $200+ are gullible retail traders that don't know how the industry works, execs prepping for another round of dilution to fund their lifestyle co, and finfluencer shills spreading blatant lies to their following while silently cashing in on the easy double they just got. You decide which of those is you.
I've got nothing against pumps, but this pump is played out.

Anons whats your YTD PnL? Mine so far hovering around 1% including living expenses. In other words -10% with inflation taken into account

>>56217985
So no more federal reserve and no more government? I can get behind that

>>56217992
My net worth is up 25% this year, that's after income, trading profits, and all expenses including rent and groceries.

>>56218001
A central bank is to say it with Churchill a shit system but by far better than the alternative, like giving power over monetary policy to a polit bureau that has a rational to fuck over households enriching their own collective of traitors to the sovereign

This is the best /smg/ ever.

>>56218009
Ok, prove it

>>56218011
Indeed

>>56217845
He actually can fire JP? Nothing else, but that’s exactly the one thing he can do.

>>56218021
Use the power of logic.
If Yellen currently had full power with congress over monetary policy would it be more rational for them to
a) cut rates to 0%, be able to continue their kickback policies full force, enact a budget that lets them finance all their pet projects and give every member of congress a million dollar and send the US straight into Weimar style inflation
or
b)keep rates higher for longer and have to enact a thought out budget having to cut on pet projects, not being able to give non stop kick backs and themselves a million dollar while inflation gets brought under control

>>56218009
Good luck

bad news about that crash contrarian chuds

>>56218054
Or create a system so that all states have equal representation in on how the money is printed. The fed clearly isn’t up to the task

Is ally financial the next domino bros?

>>56218009
>anon so indoctrinated he cannot imagine a nation without central monetary authority

>>56218073
>Printed
Nobody prints money. this isn't the middle age and the king having a royal currency minter. This is a fiat system. And beside, there is a political party system that's arguably total crap but does as their donators say. And lets assume we would get rid of the party dependency and every state would have a truly independent state representation, cooks and kitchens. Independent Central banks with clear mandates are the best thing that came out of 1929

>>56217991

Even when Sprott gets a redemption mechanic the utilities will still have to buy shares at market value of it to redeem the needful.

This shortage has been obviously coming as the narrative around nuclear has started changing and the failures of wind and solar impossible to ignore. Utilities of all companies should have figured it out, but they are basically government entities filled with lazy dimwits who couldn't put it together that supply was gonna get tight enough that speculators were going to try to squeeze them on their Uranium short position.

If I was a not-totally-retarded utility (IF) and I saw which way the wind was blowing I'd try to secure at least 5 years supply of fuel as fast as possible even at a premium. Realizing I fucked up, and paying a 50% premium now vs maybe having to idle a reactor or pay even more in the next couple years? Easy call.

Anyways, if Sprott takes their cash and gives them lbs, Sprott just buys more to replace it, or tries to. I don't know if they can contract with miners as part of their model if there's no lbs for sale, but it wouldn't surprise me.

>>56218091
So you want to go back to a system where every bank and private business decides on its own what private money it accepts and which not? Hey you can still do that, nobody stops you from accepting your animal crypto currency for your dick blow service, but having a national currency is something very practical and uniting

>>56218104
>independent

>>56218121
Commercial banks might have overlapping interests but at the end of the day they are private businesses that stand in competition with each other

>>56218104
It’s about individuals thinking for themselves. Communists like you only make that argument stronger trying to get people to go back to the days of hunger and disease. The federal reserve as it exists currently has no place in America

>>56217954
...no

>>56218084
No, it's Charles "Klaus" Schwab. Ticker: SCHW

>>56218128
You forgot the part where too-big-to-fail banks are always bailed out by newly printed money everytime there's "systemic risk". In free market economy, even in partially regulated economy, they would be long gone.

>>56218138
I'm not a communist gas lighter, personally I subscribe to anarchism. But I understand that for a nation state, an independent from politics central bank is a better solution than one that is controlled by polity or a completely free system where every mom and pop shop to quasi monopolies decide on what currency they accept or not

>>56218154
There is a difference between the individual and the state.

Many do not understand the implications of US debt service costs rising.

For nearly 20 years, it was effectively free for the US to issue debt as debt service costs were ~1.5%.

Now, debt service costs have doubled to 3% and will rise toward 5% as rates skyrocket.

To put this in perspective, 5% on $33 trillion is ~$1.7 trillion PER YEAR on interest expense.

As deficit spending rises, rates are also rising as the US issues trillions in bonds to cover the deficit.

It's a never ending cycle of borrowing to spend which is driving rates higher and leading to interest expense being 20% of US revenue.

There is no long-term plan.

And once the 10 year surpasses the short end of the curve, the auctions will become monthly/bi-weekly bloodbaths.

Aka, a bond crash.

Something this generation has never witnessed nor experienced.

Imagine being a bull.

>>56218150
That was a sin of 2008 and unfortunately 2023 as well, here we agree, that should not have happened and there should be a reform, but not a reform of first paradigm but rather second, maybe even third degree would be good enough

>>56218113
Reading shit like this reminds me of the suckers who thought oil was gonna spike to $250 last year or Germany would freeze to death last winter.
There's some surprising similarity to the GME cultists too.

Yeah dude, they're all gonna panic bid another 5 years inventory right now, today, at a 50% premium to prices that are already multi-year highs. They're so desperate to bid it well above long-term breakeven of even the highest cost dormant mines and discoveries.
You're right. You're a genius, no one else sees it. Despite all the retail positioning that has raced into uranium these past few weeks, you're still early. 10% of every thread here is posts shilling uranium, but it's still in stealth phase. The whole run is ahead of you. Lunar landing confirmed.

>>56218154
And like I said it is a never ending battle. Not any easy thing by any means, but something to take pride in nonetheless even if it is unrecognizable by your means by the next few generations. The spirit is still there

>>56218168
I understand your argument but you are maybe a tick too extreme. Pure anarchism on a national territorial scale leads to the same shit as communism. And as said, if you as an individual want to accept shitcoin test token for your goods and services, there is nobody stopping you, you have that freedom

>>56218178
You sound pretty seething for someone who *didn't* miss out. Unless...

>>56218178
Uranium spiked to 150 in 2007 so precedent certainly exists

>>56218189
I don’t accept any crypto bullshit just saying what I’m seeing. The states and counties should have more power in how things are run. I think things would would be better that way. After all it’s not reasonable for a few people to govern many upon many thousands of people all at once. Even with modern algorithms

>>56217808
Too late, there's already been a ton of thefts around Prime delivery trucks and workers getting mugged in broad daylight.

Just watch, when all of the retail stores in the pacific coast disappear, they will target warehouses next. Only a matter of time before you see amazon warehouses getting siege and burned down by flash mobs.

>>56218236
And all of those things cause by democrats and communists

>>56218230
It's a trade off the US made to have a stronger international profile at the cost of single states that would be better off f. ex. with a weaker currency. Same issue the Euro countries go through, that would be better off if they wouldn't be fucked by Germany. I don't know maybe having a bigger committee with more state representatives with the fed wouldn't be the worst, lobby for it.

>>56218178

>all this strawman

As to prices and timelines, idk idc, I simply know we're not done yet so it is still a buy-the dips play for now.

I also know there's not gonna be enough coming from the miners to meet contracting demand next couple years and a lot of the juniors are actually going to fail to meet production quotas, and shit is gonna get wild and wooly. Doubly so when speculators have a vehicle to keep lbs off market and effectively mount a short squeeze (which is not, in fact, squoze yet). This has all yet to play out but it inevitably will. The top signal is governments getting involved, and dumping from their stockpiles, or yes retail mania but lolno we're not even close to that.

And for the record, plenty of people made money on Oil and GME and such, they just knew when to get the fuck out. So your 'point' rests on the assumption the run is done which u provide zero reasoning for. I will drop Uranium miners like a hot potato when it's time. It's not time yet. Not until Utility CEOs are bawling in front of a Senate committee and roasties are posting about buying URNM on twitter.

>>56218271
indeed

>>56218205
Totally seething as I cash out on the KAP shares I slurped back in the Ukraine invasion.. Don't say I didn't warn you. True believers always get sacrificed. Don't be the guy in this pic >>56217701.

>>56218223
Oil also spiked to $150 back then too. Different times. Last year it couldn't even break the nominal highs from 2008, despite all the general inflation we've seen in the decade since. Spikes don't happen when everyone's expecting them.

>>56218274
It’s a trade off of the federal government claiming powers that belonged to the state government.; just like europe

>>56217415
Actually sweatie, 1968 is Xoomer not boomer.

>>56218309
>Bagholding for nearly 2 years
Thanks for the warning, champ, but as we both know, literally anyone else is better than you at timing bubbles.

>>56218329
Luckily the fed is independent and only has to follow its mandate and not federal politics.

>>56218355
Does it now? I was not aware that that always had to be the case

The government shutdown will go into another shutdown, and then some new financial institution will fail and nobody will be able to bail them out. That's the black swan.

>>56218277
>And for the record, plenty of people made money on Oil and GME and such, they just knew when to get the fuck out.
Unfortunately, it seems you do not.
Learning when to bail takes practice. Judging by your use of 3rd person in those statements, I'm guessing this is the first time you've ever been on the inside of a decent pump. I doubt I can convince you, but when you look back I hope you take your erased gains as a small tuition cost. The learning experience is worth it. Don't give up.

>or yes retail mania but lolno we're not even close to that.
If you're curious where retail sentiment stands, just look around. Let it be noted that I'm seeing 3 active replies to every counterargument I post. And even I myself am still slightly long..
So, 4 out of ~10 active posters.

>TLT buying anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSOU7qECbfA
>>56218343
>Boomer, Xoomer, Moomer, Zoomer
Millenials confirmed for being perma-mumus!!!

>>56218374
I feel bad for people born in 1999 who insist they're zoomers instead of moomers. Truly cursed people.

>>56218374
Fuck it, I'm going to short TLT now because of this post.

>>56218370
*Black swan

>>56218398
Only if you let it

>>56218351
I doubled my money and cashed out long term gains on a position that would've paid me nearly 10% yield on cost even if it hadn't pumped.
If you're going to be this obnoxious, just fuck off already. You're starting to sound pretty desperate.

I see 15 posts in this thread, and your only analytical contribution is a thesis that literal niggers will send physical uranium to infinity. lmao.
I'm going to bed.

>>56218384
>Truly cursed people.
Moomer just *sounds* powerful, you know? Can't imagine why someone would want to distance themselves from power...
>>56218385
>Fuck it, I'm going to short TLT now because of this post.
>shorting TLT at the bottom
Oh, this one is more of your anthem, then!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wOUMEVd2XY

>>56218415
>Can't imagine why someone would want to distance themselves from power...
Many zoomers are kind of retarded and gay, by choice.

>>56218355
It's the feds mandate, the only reason the fed exists on paper is to ensure price stability and full employment. Sure the individuals that are the fed have a certain latitude to reach those goals and the methods might not be perfect, but nothing is, and yes some chairs might have been corrupt bastards that would better be hanged, like Greenspan, Bernanke and Yellen, but Powell has until now done an okay job, even the credit line for struggling banks is in the bigger picture okay, though I personally also would have preferred to have seen the banks that were supposed to fail fail

>>56218412
Total bullshit; even negative bullshit if that was even possible

>>56218384
Eh, I don’t insist on anything, just calling things as I see if

>https://twitter.com/Fxhedgers/status/1707265006117462272

Unless they are just fake gold, what the fuck? Is this a sign of bad shit happening soon?

>>56218468
>1 toz bars from Costco
Absolute nothing burger

>>56218468
>bad shit happening soon
What gave you that idea?

>A LAST-MINUTE DEAL AVERTING GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN IS UNLIKELY (Bloomberg)

watch it be some bullshit like they did with the debt ceiling nonsense a while ago

>>56218481
My investments are with great companies.
They will come back.

>>56218481
Does anyone with a meaningful IQ take that graph seriously? Asking for a friend...

Anyone else feel like the Canada-India spat is actually a big deal for global tensions?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sikh-nijjar-india-canada-trudeau-modi-1.6974607

>>56218488
Yeah, in like 30 years maybe lol. Not adjusted for inflation though.

>>56218489
>denial

>>56218494
No one in Canada gives a shit. That paki wasn't an actual Canadian, just some brown dude.

>>56218374
>TLT buying anthem
more like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxeAmURFoaU

>>56218371

Lol damn you keep trying way too hard to insult me with smarm and sarcasm and fantasizing about my bad trades as a substitute for an argument when I haven't even been rude at all. You're just salty af and I don't know why. Oh well take a screenshot and let's check back in a year and see what happened.

This place is also not a measure of retails hysteria. That part is actually just plain objectively wrong. Go check social media or reddit. There's a little activity but not much yet.

>>56218494
Unless Canada actually forces the Indian immigrants out and revoke their citizenship while banning any new ones coming in indefinitely, then its not a big deal.

>>56218489
Its the this time its different people like you that are delusional

>>56218412
What is your general market outlook for the next few months, next year? Not trying to bait you or whatever just genuinely interested

>>56218178
Close but no cigar. Fuel buyers are not stupid, they follow rules. Fuel buyers 5-10 years ago didnt go to their CFO and say: "I want to buy loads of uranium because incentive cost is 70$, and in 10 years uranium could be 200$". They didn't do that. The cost of uranium for a utility is something like 5% of the total budget. What's more important is security of consistent supply, because a nuclear power plant that is not operating is an expensive paper weight. So these fuel buyers really will go out and contract from Cameco and Kazatomprom. Then when those order books fill they will seek other miners who can guarantee future supply. The costs for these smaller developers is higher but they will pay, since utilities are somewhat price insensitive. Uranium IS contracted 2-10+ years out, thats not an exaggeration. There are huge changes in the nuclear energy space in the last 5 years that have altered supply and demand concerns. Fuel buyers were not planning on: Japanese restarts, plant extensions, investment vehicles like SPUT cleaning the spot market out, the resurgence and need of nuclear for Net Zero, the Russia Ukraine war and its effect on global energy markets(Russia is a huge part of the fuel cycle as well), the Niger coup and Orano(5% of supply come from here), supply chain issues(miners have inflated costs), Cameco and KAP lowering production guidance, China building 150 power plants, nuclear energy / mining expertise being scarce, the failure of solar and wind etc. The thesis is simple: there is not enough production of uranium to meet future supply. The price of uranium is far too low to incentivize new production(speculation is that it $80+). Therefore the price of uranium goes up or the lights go out. The sector has been in a deep bear market for a decade. Commodities and energy are cheap. The sector itself moves with massive beta because it's tiny and very unknown. The fact that you don't believe in it is precisely why we are not at peak fomo.

>>56218489

I think it's meant more as a descriptor of market psychology, and it holds up pretty well in that regard. People have certain patterns that are pretty reliable.

>>56218468

>Costco selling gold now

What the fuck? How did I miss this?

Damn I kinda want to buy one tho.

>>56218504
>Enter Shikari
Dang, this brings me back. I used to drum for a death metal band ~10 years ago. Always had a soft spot for hardcore and post-hardcore, at the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN4IIgFz93k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNgYa39BQIw
These are good oldies...
>>56218525
>redditor platitudes
So that's a no?
>>56218551
How fucked am I that I went short on CCJ???

>>56218567
Depends largely on the feds decision. If the chart was true, 2008/2020 would have been the return to the mean, instead of a wild artificial ?V? in 2020

>>56218489

The terms used in that graph are correct and still applied today. The market structure is not relevant anymore.Seasoned markets don't behave like that anymore. Although you might find similarities in crypto pump&dump projects

>>56218570
>How fucked am I that I went short on CCJ???
You're fucked . We've got 6+ anons ITT teaming up to promote uranium. Doubters eat shit. This squeeze is just beginning. SPUT to $100.

BUDDY LOOK AT OPEC

>>56218494
It does a couple things, first it makes Canada appear even more weak, India would dare kill an American citizen brown or not, two it shows Canada's Ally's have also stopped giving a shit about Canada, because they don't seem to care either. Canada's response has also been extremely weak, JT has not cancelled Indian visas, nor expelled diplomats, nor released evidence. Just mumbled that he hope India cooperates in the investigation or somethung. So no, it's not a big deal for anyone but Canada which has some how become even more pathetic and irrelevant.

>>56218609
Eh, I think I'll just ride it out. It's only ~$300 in options, anyway.
>>56218623
>BUDDY LOOK AT OPEC
FUCK OPEC!!! AND FUCK KING SALMAN!!!
BRING OIL DOWN TO $60; NOW NOW NOW!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdte-9YqWoI

>>56218640
NOT SULEK ALSO HERE MAN

Looks like the dip is just starting, how low will we go during this oscillation?

It is time to long GUSH

>>56217475
Yes it is an underrated company that will continue to outperform the market because it focuses on boomer analog devices rather than digital processors.You just need to hold it, or wait for a dip if China wants to put some sanctions

>>56218645
Take tren. Buy TLT. Have your dick hang lower than your balls.
Sam Sulek would approve, anon.

>>56217991
>execs prepping for another round of dilution to fund their lifestyle co,
So much this kek.

>>56218664
>buy TLT
I was going to write something to >>56218374
but I deleted it. Now that you adress me directly.

TLT is the worst you coud buy long term. You might hope for a bump in Nov-DEZ, but after January it will probably just die for a few months if not years.

I'll buy bonds for the yield though, thanks.

>>56218656
>wasting dollars on oil
Rather hold uranium. Plenty of oil in the ground. Don't miss the big squeeze chasing of the decade chasing that small OPEC gift.

Oil bros, we got cucked hard with the SPR release, now it's our time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGSTkGtqbIk

Who will pay the government shills to spam pro-regime lies on /smg/ after the government defaults? The world wonders.

>>56218694

>we got cucked hard with the SPR release

Biden will sell the rest of it. Motherfucker is on death's doorstep he don't care about future generations or anything like that. The old diddler just wants to be a 2-term prez he doesn't give a fuck about anything else.

>>56218710
This time they shouldn't risk it. They already got downgraded once, another downgrade will send yields to the moon and the US further into debt.

>>56218694
>1pbtid
>another oil shill
Hate to say it. Are we being raided?
Someone must be desperate to redirect this thread from uranium.

>>56218725
Oil will peak at $500 a barrel.

>>56218725
who needs uranium when u have uvxy

Why would any any non-gambler even bother investing in the stock market now that T-Bills are at 5.6%? The average of SPY is 8% annually. It's barely 3% more yield at 100% the risk.

>>56218725
You got me, it's 9:30AM in euroland. I just clocked on and my oil sheikh bosses told me to start shilling on /biz/ right away or I'll get my pay docked.

>>56218741
For the last time, I'm not buying your worthless bags, Janet.

lots of volume for the asian session

>>56218732
No one would buy it. Climate lovers will always hate oil, but they've slowly been reading up on uranium.

>>56218745
Fucking knew it. Begone, shill.

>>56218758
>No one would buy it.
Yeah, that's the point.

>>56218725
Dinosaur blood vampires and glowing pet rock fans are similar. The demand for energy is not high enough to explain the pumps. The dinosaur blood vampires are front running opec+ production reduction and the glowing pet rock fans a narrative. It's amazing there aren't Hydrogen honks too

>>56218741
Why buy t-bills when you can buy energy stocks that yield 10% or more in dividends and are buying back their stock, so instead of compounding losses in the t-bill market you compound gains in the energy market?

>>56218741
5% vs 8% growth is huge with compound interest
over 10 years, 100k turns into 162k at 5%, vs 215k at 8%

>>56218503
at the end of the day, this. But we have to pretend like it's a big deal so the other pooloo Canadians don't realize they are 4th class citizens that we don't care about

>>56218768
Why buy energy stocks when you can invest in mutant fish? One day my AQB bags will pay out, just you watch and learn.

>>56218766
>OH THE HUMANITY

>>56218766
Check the debt clock again. Then we can talk about what price is fair.

>>56218745
9:30 in the east, greece,baltic, finland or ukraine.

>>56218779
The day you sell is the day you make money on that stock.

>>56218784
you think the oil sheikhs are going to pay some western european salary?

Yields...

>>56218772
>8%
Returns for ants. I don't start reading unless it's 25% IRR, minimum.

>>56218772
sure, but in those 10 year time frame, SPY could very well be going through an extended bear market and not actually hit those 8% average yields. The 5.6% are guaranteed yield. I mean, would you right now in this current market be more comfortable to put 100k into SPY or into T-Bills and then forget about your investment for let's say the next 5 years rather than 10?

>>56218468
Here's the vig with gold; you don't actually make very much selling it. Unless you're doing some crazy design you're keeping it to within about 50-100$ of spot at most, and costco was selling with less margins than that but they don't care as they can move gold in bulk. They're also not dealing with an insane amount of gold that necessitates crazy security measures to ship or store, there's tv's worth double what an ounce of gold costs and they stack those on pallets in warehouses all the time. If anything the gold is easy because it's small amounts.

It mostly just makes a lot of sense and is kinda bullish for gold but largely for costco too. Everything else in that tweet is just basic gold marketing talking points.

>>56218782
Parking cash in energy commodities when demand for energy is not really picking up is no matter the clock at least questionable

>>56218741
because basically you're betting against the global economy.
chance of a global currency that isn't the usd: basically 0.
chance of the us economy fatally terminating: even less
chance of the us govt defaulting: even less.

either are really straight up no duh bets cause mfs are gonna go to work cause that's what they've been doing for decades(besides coof) and the us gov will just print the money. so why not take the slightly riskier out of the two least risky bets ever for a lil extra down the road.

>>56218806
i should add explicitly that coof effects were the direct policy of most governments in the world and i think they learned their lesson with people, the lesson being people don't like that number go down

>>56218801
i would do 60/40 so you can get a bit of both
this my fiduciary duty

If you go full boomer bonds, at least buy FLOT

It doesn't matter if the NHS is good or not, what matters is feeling morally superior to the Americans

>>56217911
Who is this pure innocent girl? You can just tell a girl would never have an onlyfans or do anything degenerate that would scar her for life. What an angel

>>56218799
Woah, mama

>>56218879
Amazing that anyone can read this and decide not to play the squeeze.

Oilbros, are you familiar with Africa Oil? Seems like a great dip to slurp. A massive overreaction on the market's part.

Germany's inflation apparently down (we'll have to wait a couple of hours for the true data though... I don't understand why they even put out these preliminary data) while Spain's up. THe higher oil/gas prices are gonna hit hard in the EU. Price gouging is gonna start anew ffs. Hell, I already pay $8+/gallon for diesel.

Also, just one more thing if anyone knows. Why are European banks so undervalued? Extremely high earnings, low P/E, insanely high divvies. They are literally breathing and pooping out so much cash right now. They got punished real hard in 2009 but come on

>>56218933
Lum isn't meant for Oil posts. Lum isn't an oil bitch, she is a semiconductor/computer chips bitch.

>>56218307
I's like to take this moment to thank the English empire for reducing our Australian black population to 2%

>>56218944
She told me you're a fag, heh. She likes to make money where money is to be had. Oil is now poised to enter a new era with minimum prices of 90. In my opinion, oil will start fluctuating between 90 and 110 (maybe 100). The US has no frickin energy policy. They could have slurped oil at 60 but didn't, pathetic

>>56218236
>Too late, there's already been a ton of thefts around Prime delivery trucks and workers getting mugged in broad daylight.
I sold my laptop on gumtree and the carrier said their van was stolen when out for delivery. I was reimbursed 200 quids. The laptop was 500, andI didn't take the insurance...

http://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/country/greece/

Why the fuck is the 1M greek yield at 10% and why was it at 30%? wtf

>>56218974
>New paradigm

>>56218741

Because if they fire the printer back up stocks will do great but bonds will eat shit. Bonds are pricing in money printer risk. Recession next year big whoop, what comes after that? Oh right, they mail out stimmy checks that's what.

That's why the long end keeps eating shit. JPow may not want to print again, but president AOC's Fed chair will have no such problem 5 years from now.

>>56218979
Hello zoomie, Greece's economy is so bad it technically shouldn't have been allowed into the Eurozone. Yields are high because you're not sure you'll get your money back and yields were higher because default seemed likely when it seemed like they wouldn't even be able to service their debt. Hence the "pay denbts" meme.

>>56218933
>Oilbros, are you familiar with Africa Oil
Yes It's cheap exploration upside but Canadian mid caps are just as cheap. At the right price I'd buy it tho.

>>56218933
>Africa
>Penny Stock
>Headquartered in Canada
nope

>>56218741
what backs up the USD?

>>56218996
I'm greek and no zoomer. Fuck off. Greece CPI is lower than westEU and they aren't in a recession currently. They even are on the way to reduce debts. Even though if I was them, I wouldn't pay back.

>>56219035
Nice cope. You have shitload of debt and shit economy. As other anon said, you shouldn't even be in eurozone. The only reason you are is german lenders would actually have to write off the loss. Now its being paid by everyone in yurope.

>>56219035
Where's a nice place to visit in Greece in the Autumn/Winter?

>>56219075
>you shouldn't even be in eurozone.
That is true.
>Nice cope. You have shitload of debt and shit economy.
Doesn't matter to me, not living there. As we can see the west prospered on cheap energy. Questionable if they will recover without it. Also the amount of highskilled workers has increase by a lot here in the past years (irony).

>>56219080
See >>56219086
I've never been in Greece during autumn/winter. Only summer because of prolonged holidays back when I went to school. In the past years I've not been. Grandparents gone, studied here in westEU.

>>56219035
>I'm greek and no zoomer
So why are you asking why yields are high malaka, you should know why, with massive debt levels and a questionable ability to pay it back. This has nothing to do with inflation.

>>56218063
>marketwatch
>JP Morgan
inverse indicator. The bullrun continues.

>>56219094
German CPI way softer for september, DAX still dropping. Low inflation is bad now and not good anymore.
>US joins, market dies

Oilbros, I feel good

Inflation dropping due to the comparison effect (9% y/y last year) and electricity prices dropping across the board. Since electricity prices cannot drop much more than this and oil/gas going up and services either being stuck or also going up... inflation will remain stuck at 4%+. High for longer will be the tune for a long time. The service inflation really is insane in Europe, fuckin price gouging hacks.
Oh well, gives me even more time to stack banks which will enjoy massive returns on their investments and loans

>>56219144
>price gouging

I again didn't do what I intended to do (short) this whole week I really ruined for myself because I wanted to wait monday, fuckin jewish holidays.

>it's dropping again

Bump into dump, lower bollinger to lower bollinger + sometimes breaking them market.

>futes

>>56219213
You'll probably get a small bounce the rest of the week ... but judging from your daily posts it seems like your are reluctant to take a position, either up or down.

>>56219224
I'm certainly not going up, even if it rebounds. I'll only short. But I closed positions too soon and didn't open the ones I wanted to add to my existing. Now shorting from a lower point I have to adjust my margin calculation and this market looks like it only wants to fuck bobos with a retarded pump. Or what was that yesterday evening (EU)?

Especially that softer german cpi (individual states are being published, so I have to assume the complete will be lower than last month) could make the whole market jump if the same happens in the US, cause then
>no hike
>rate cut
hopes come up again.

Fundamentals are completely irrelevant. You have to realize that we've been trading the bubble meme chart for the last several years. If only you listened when there was still time.

Another fucking red day
Fuck this scam

>lower bollinger to lower bollinger
haha that's bullish rr--r-r-ight bros? The european indices all look very bearish right now, especially the DAX and OMX.
I won't miss out on the bottom now. I am gonna slurp the crap out of all these undervalued stocks

Give me water and water accessories stocks.

Hard mode: No COKE.

>>56219144
>The service inflation really is insane in Europe,
This. My hooker costs 150 more euroinos.

>>56219250

>10 year yields turning green again

>>56219267
Friendly reminder they only rise prices on johns they dont really enjoy. If she likes you she will keep her old rate.

>>56217759
Is there really no alternative to this piece of shit
You just know they're selling our data

>>56218741
Well you see the market is priced rationally so you'll actually gain real yield + 5% risk premium if you invest at these levels! The higher the yields, the higher you can expect returns on equities to be because the market is rational!

What's happening in Europe?

>>56219276
>Powell do the needful.

>>56219301
thats a really funny pic mind if i save?

>>56219301
Don't know ask the US that joined an hour ago.

>>56219314
You're right, it is super funny.
Go ahead it is all yours.

>>56219301
Imagine an entire region of the world experiencing detroitification. Now realize that's reality for them.

>>56219334
But it isn't Detroit though.

Oh my god it's so over.

>>56219337
Yet. It isn't yet.

So every time someone said "higher for longer", they were actually talking about inflation?
Fuck this decade is gonna suck

Weeks, even months bad data. And now we die, IN 2 weeks.

10 year yields are going to hit 4.75% today.

>>56219289
BUDDY LOOK AT YAHOO FINANCE ADVANCED CHARTS OPEN BETA

Gonna close my SOXS at open. We will repump to around 14880 next week. Then another leg down.

>>56219367
Look at fucking yields. This shit has passed the event horizon and we're about to collapse all the way down into an infinitesimal singularity.

>>56219363
I'd nut a little

>futures
CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION TO THE RESURRECTION
SEND IN MY CREDENTIALS TO THE HOUSE OF DETENTION

>>56219356
Both actually. The rates have a hugely lagging effect on inflation. The inflation has largely dropped because of other factors. Profits and price gouging, oil, electricity, service (annual part is gonna increase drastically which also means higher for longer), food... yeah bro, higher for longer.
I really do feel sorry for rentoids and the normies that are either new to the loan market or are about to re-finance. We should see the rates starting to take effect next year so I think the Santa bull run is still gonna happen

>Yeah bro, just dump through the weekly bollinger, bro.
kek, DAX

>>56219365
>he lets tradingview cuck him with 3 indicators
Ngmi. Yahoo finance unlimited indicators

>>56219380
Yes I leave TMV open.

Another day, another TMV high. Life's good.

5% on the 20 years sounds nice, maybe we should all just become bond boomers and take it easy guys.

Daily reminder

>>56219419
>-4% real yield
sounds like great deal anon

>>56219421
>Market participant with a stake in the market wants market to go up so others (there is noone left) to invest in the market and make the market go up
Lmao

>>56217521
>>56218657
You short texas you short america and you never bet against america. When a stock has texas in it you buy and hold. Did you not see the op pic and how they made the most lethal anti tank missile launcher known to man? Do you really want to be on the receiving end of that?

>>56219421
>flashing bullish signals
There is no fairy tale and make believe hopium indicator even hinting at anything of the sort. The best you're going to get is some oversold type thing.

>>56219445
>When a stock has texas in it you buy and hold.

>>56219445
It pumped with all the other tech stocks during the AI mania, despite not even being in that part of the market. It needs a healthy correction
Also shorting texas is more like shorting mexico, not america per se

>>56219454
They invented the fucking transistor, put some respekk on their name.

God bless human psychology. If the sky wasn't falling every time there was a downturn I wouldn't be able to make money.
Been flat since sept1, and got my finger on the trigger.

Contemplating shorting DAX, inflation data in a few hours

Seems everyone is anticipating lower numbers

>>56219474
They have to be lower judging from the indiviual states. But that might mean
>no hike
>rate cuts
>pump

>>56219445
>>56219454
based

I am up 100% on an option play. But I only went in with 10%

Selling more AMR
Buying more OSTK

>>56219482
Yeah, we probably get fake pump

>Yields going up even higher

hahahahahahahaha good thing I don't have any student loan debt. Can't imagine how fucked people will be next month, especially when 'forgiveness'' will be taxed to hell too.

>Markets

>>56219528
>he didn't all in

>>56219545
Kek is it variable?
All those dumb roastoids with their BA degrees
Feels good to be the last generation who got free university in the UK

Bobochads right now
>>>/wsg/5256444

>no pink wojak larpers, just occasional genuine butthurt post
Shit's about to get real ain't it

>>56219551
I have been lulled into a false sense of being smart with these small plays. Was right about mpw, and ally short has paid well. Though ALLY likes to randomly pump to liquidate shorts (see yesterday) before it blasts back downward.

>>56219558
There's about 48 hours left before the government shuts down and a few hours less than that to get a deal done, and McCarthy seems like he's actually tired of getting called a pussy and is going to make sure it happens. The line gongo down soon.

>>56219584
In all seriousness, keeping your risk down was absolutely the smart thing to do. Stick with it.

>>56219474
>>56219482
>>56219539
Pump already starting, might dump on numbers release

>>56219604
>make low risk plays
>lose everything
>make small high risk plays
>liquour budget is burgeoning

>>56219592
Even without a government shutdown, shits fucked sideways.
Look at Yield curve laptop
Look at dxy laptop

>>56219627
You're right. Time to bet it all on black and become a billionaire. The probability of this happening surely must be non-zero, right? There must be at least one person in the entire universe who would actually win the mythical 10x trade, no?

>>56219640
The market was just fine with 3.7% yield on mr. 10yr

>>56219652
LMAO nothing about this market has been "just fine"
It's the Nvidia market. It's literally fucking 1 stock holding it all up.

I'm going to mcdonalds for breakfast (ticker: MCD) where I will get eight sausage egg and cheese burritos and two hashbrowns with some orange juice to wash it down. Millions of fatasses like me are making the same decision around the world. Calmly explain why you don't already have MCD in your port.

>>56219672
AI is the future. Stay innovative.

>>56219704
Oh look it's a tranny

>>56219690
ew, it buys and holds stocks!!!

>>56219462
>piercings
no thank you

TINA trade is dead. Liquidate while you can

GameStop names Ryan Cohen as CEO effective immediately
No pay
Name me one company in which the CEO is getting no pay. No salary or bonuses or vested shares/options

Somebody turn the stocks off and on again

>>56219755
Is this a desperate move by GME?

>>56219690
Fatasses are priced in

>>56219766
Chairman Cohen was already interim CEO for a while. This is a genius move as GME is heading into profitability and M&A.

>>56219755
Haven’t seen you in a long time here, have you guys MOASSed?

>>56219755
shoo back to your containment thread
how heavy are those bags?

>>56219772
more like heading into receivership lmfao

>>56219755
bro it has been nearly 3 years, I solded at 300, maybe you should have done it too

>/smg/ talking about shorting Texas Instruments which has already dumped pretty hard and is trading at really low multiples
Never change bois, never change

Today probably was the bottom for whatever reason inflation is coming in lower despite high oil prices. October CPI will even be better because OIL 2022 was pretty high. January will be the end of this market if the CPI numbers also do not come in soft for whatever reason cause December-Jan 2022 oil was pretty low compared to now... But as I said, for whatever reason also September cpi seems to come in lower.

I'd still say HIGHER FOR LONGER; cause the central banks want to be entirely safe inflation is contained

>>56219281
Just be handsome. I paid for 15min facial once and stayed for an hour free because she wanted me to fuck her brains out.

>>56219755
Do they finally realize selling new video games is not a business anymore?
I'm sure they can run on selling shitloads of merchandise and second hand vidya, but do they know?

Anyways I just bought Romanian bonds with 6,78% and 6,56% yield longterm, hope it plays out well. Their rates are at 7% currently and haven't raised for 5 sessions. Will probably only go lower from here making my bonds more valuable.

>>56219793
Delusional

>>56219755
>Cohen

>>56219814

At least pinpoint one point as there could be many points delusional.

Maybe you are referring to
>the bottom
With that I didn't mean the real bottom, just a pause in dropping and a slight reversal for 1-2 months with retardchristmas rallye maybe.

But since you didn't even greentext what is delusional, fuck off.

>>56219755
To be fair, he already owns like 12% of the company. Them achieving a full year of profitability in the next quarter or two would make him a shitload of money so he's not really doing it for free.

>>56219755
He "scammed" enough out of BBBY baggies, he will do the same with GameStop. That will be his pay, lol.

>>56219846
Oil prices and inflation do not have a causal relationship. The 1970s showed us this, dumbass.

>>56219867
found the clueless newfag

i really miss circuit breakers getting hit. it wouldn't be good for me, but, this is so fucking boring

>>56219792
TI is a cog in the MIC. Always long the MIC.

>>56219880
found the bbby baggie

>>56219873
Ah yes, sure.

>>56219880
Ryan Cohen will drain the swamp
Trump is not my president
Wwgawg1

>>56219927

>>56219927

>>56219927

>>56219927

NEW NEW NEW

>>56219886
Also it's one of the American semiconductor manufacturers (specifically one of the only ones making SOCs.)

>>56218307
>get in van
>back up fast and peel out
>problem(s) solved