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What caused Malls do become unprofitable and close down?

>> No.56217253

>>56217245
Niggers

>> No.56217255

You know what

>> No.56217262

>>56217245
Leaving the house is lame >>56217253

>> No.56217265

>>56217253
Damn beat me to it

>> No.56217282

>>56217245
Some people would say online retailers, I'd say niggers and spics. The mall closest to me in my city was doing fine until it became a hotbed of gang activity where shootings were common place, around 2016. Eventually, people stopped going because it became too dangerous. People still like the idea of having a physical location where they can try things on, or a hangout spot. Not worth it if you run the risk of getting a cap in your ass because paco and deshawndre are having a disagreement.

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>>56217245
One reason is that the US just has too many

>> No.56217346

>>56217245
Amazon, duh.

>> No.56217354

>>56217253
This. It’s the reason the one closest to me is probably going to shut down in the next 2-3 years. Maybe a little less than half of the stores have already closed up shop, and someone gets shot in there every other weekend. Plus the crowds of urban youth sitting around the doors harassing women and begging for money. Nobody with money goes anymore.

>> No.56217366

>>56217245
The internet. People just don't want to go outside as much now that they can play games and watch movies at home.

There's a dying mall near me that has a really nice arcade, but hardly anyone ever goes there. But it makes sense. What kind of person, young or old, goes to an arcade now, instead of just buying a new game on Steam or something?

>> No.56217397

malls already collapsed decades ago, probably before you were born
they attempted to retool and it failed because they couldn't recreate the noneconomic factors that had made them successful in the first place such as everyone, employees included, being white and the environment being friendly and safe - that ended in the 90s or 2000s depending on the locale

the ones that successfully remade themselves became "upscale" so only wealthy people have any reason to go there and there are police patroling the parking fields pretty much all the time

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56217430

majority white states have the lowest quality of life, highest suicide rates ,highest rates of depression, negative birth rates and zero cultrual significance. Give yourselves some credit and stop dickriing niggers

>> No.56217440

>>56217253
MODS
DO YOUR
FUCKING JOB

Racism is cringe. Take that shit elsewhere. And no it’s not because of black people, Amazon is literally out competing nearly everything.

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>>56217245
>What caused Malls do become unprofitable and close down?
In the smaller towns of the USA, maybe. But the 1980's style "malls" are still popular around the globe. I was in Europe and it's still popular as ever there. In Japan when I visited Shibuya, the crowds were insane with the likes of Parco. I would say it would either have to do with public nuisance issues like >>56217253 or that people just stopped using physical destinations such as malls as a place to pass time or spend a day. I remembered when I was younger, people went to the mall with their family on the weekends because it was a way for much entertainment. Could say you spent a whole day at the mall and it was alright. Atleast in Asia- where I grew up. The malls there had stories of movie theaters, actual food courts and restaurants and entire electronics levels. Even had levels dedicated to spa and beauty, so you could even get a haircut and the like, spend so much time there. Now with the proliferation of online communities and easily-accessible high-speed internet and media streaming services, its cheaper for people to do. The government Orwellian "lockdowns" are also to blame as people prefer to be in the safety of their own home anyway

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56217503

take me back

>> No.56217570

>>56217440
>cringe
u may as well say yikes but that would out you as the commie that you are

>> No.56217594 [DELETED] 

>>56217253
Fpbp because it's true.

>> No.56217597

>>56217245
Malls could be good again if they just added a membership fee to prevent Scholars from entering

>> No.56217610

Seeing a lot of replies in here that aren’t from folks that remember the 90’s or before. Middle class collapse. There are a lot less “nice” places because the middle class was destroyed. The rich still go to malls, they’re just shopping in stores you can’t afford. The poor malls breed crime and poverty. Middle class malls are a rare thing now.

>> No.56217614

>>56217245
>>56217253
OP and fippy bippy

You order toothpaste to your porch now you lazy pieces of garbage, it's your fault, look in the mirror

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>>56217610
I think this is a big part of it. 40 year old here, I remember the mall being a big thing when people had literal cash in their pocket. I'm wondering if there was a boom-bust as credit cards becoming normal and then Normie's realized credit cards weren't free money.

>> No.56217639

>>56217430
Then why does everyone in the world want to move there?
Oh right because
>its safe
>people are hot
>shit actually works and is functional
>everyone is polite and happy

>> No.56217651

>>56217430
finland?

>> No.56217705

>>56217639
except liberal cities have the highest population density, flyovers are economically and culturally irrelevant, same as nordic countries. Wihtout diversity, you dont exist

>> No.56217751

>>56217430
This is what having your ancestors conquered and divided up does to a mf

>> No.56217788

>>56217705
Idk the US did fine without diversity. You realize we were a 85%+ white country and the envy of the entire world? And everyone in the world would die to live in any Nordic country. Go crawl under a rock you probably dont even know your dad you genetic abomination

>> No.56217799

>>56217245
malls are just places to buy things and be subjected to advertising. people can do that from the comfort of their own home now.

>> No.56217813

>>56217614
people that buy toothpaste 1 tube at a time are slaves right?

not really related but its just a thought I had,

>> No.56217858

>>56217635
Yep that too. Now you have buy now pay later that will destroy online shopping once people understand pay later is still pay

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>>56217245
imagine a large building full of storefronts but each store inside is full of locked plastic / glass cases. you have to get troon who earns at least $15 / hr to come unlock to pick anything up due to shoplifting.

no thanks, I'll just order whatever I need online.

>> No.56217895

>>56217245
>JouMWonV
I got this fuckhead ID though.

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>>56217751
then he cries about his limp dick and inability to keep up with the vitality of others, cant conquer nature cuck

>>56217788
western countries siphon resources and productivity from the global south, you are exclaiming benefits that you enjoy from the expense of others, the bee wants to partake in experincing the honey they created.
whites are not a productive people, naturally operating from a parasitical base, without the economic structures created by the elite. Most of you would no more sophisticated than the poor souls in wyoming that suck dick for rock to pass the time

>> No.56217902

>>56217705
>Wihtout diversity, you dont exist
I agree. Israel should tear down its walls, abolish the DNA tests for entry, and become diverse

>> No.56217907

>>56217245
amazon

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>>56217440
you have to go back

>> No.56217930

>>56217901
Oh you are that pajeet parasite mongrel. May God curse your entire bloodline you favela shit eating rat, we have sacrificed so much to make our countries nice while you just BREED AND BREED and infest our beautiful genetics with the spawn you shit out of your mothers vile vaginas. May God flood this dogshit planet once and for all, little curry rat you WILL get whats yours.

>> No.56217943

>>56217901
Nature dictates that you people will be lining up to buy white genes for your babies as soon as they're commodified (at least as long as you let us cook and don't chimp out too hard). Meanwhile I'll continue getting my pale demon cock milked in your imp niece's slippery brown pussy.

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>>56217901
take your meds, brother

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>>56217930
take it easy, were talking, like we always talk. IM just saying we are the best thing that ever happened to you, like. a women without a man, you wouldnt be able define yourself without our presense,you would be the negatve space ina. painting.

>>56217943
no such thing as white genes, everything you have is a derivative, your genome is constricted and limited, lacking 99% of what is possible in human expression

>> No.56217980

>>56217969
No we don't talk at all. You scum our naive populace and take back centuries of social progress and thousands of years of genetic progress. Stay the fuck away from me. I dream to get off this ugly rock and firebomb it to nuclear oblivion daily because I am simply fatigued at seeing 5'4 SHIT SMELLING rats infest societies once inhabited by the noble/beautiful. I dont even want you within a 500km radius near me lol.

>> No.56217982

>>56217253
people rage because he said the truth

>> No.56217987

>>56217440
Get a load of this nigger

>> No.56217996

>>56217253
>Niggers
>>56217282
>Some people would say online retailers, I'd say niggers and spics.
>>56217366
>The internet. People just don't want to go outside as much now that they can play games and watch movies at home.

>>56217610
>Seeing a lot of replies in here that aren’t from folks that remember the 90’s or before. Middle class collapse. There are a lot less “nice” places because the middle class was destroyed
>>56217635
>40 year old here, I remember the mall being a big thing when people had literal cash in their pocket.


ding ding ding! This is it. It's not niggers, or crime, or the internet, it's the destruction of the middle class. The mall near me is a quintessential example. It was built in the late 1970s, was super busy throughout my childhood in the 90s, but right before I become a teenager, in the early 2000s, it plummeted in popularity. By the time I had my driver's license in 2007 it was practically a ghost town. And it was finally shut down in 2014, and then demolished in 2017.

While the internet existed by 2000, online shopping outside of niche products didn't really take off until the 2010s. No one used Amazon for anything except books until the very late 2000s. In the case of my mall, this was in a suburb that was over 90% white. And it wasn't like black people drove 20 miles from the ghetto to go there either, cops would chase em off. So, it wasn't niggers/crime, and it wasn't online shopping that killed it. I'm sure those were contributing factors at some places, but not the mall near my house.

The clear factor is that malls declined with economic downturn. The economy never fully recovered from the dot-com bubble in 1999, and right when it seemed like it was starting to, 9/11 happened, which put us in another mini-recession til 2003 or 2004. This was when malls really fell off.

I think around this time, developers also realized they could make more money with "outdoor malls" which were basically just glorified strip malls

>> No.56218002

>>56217503
A 39 year old kids dream

>> No.56218016

>>56217253
Fpbp
/thread

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>>56217980
an to prove me right, he screeches like a women unable to confront the truth. Indians outperform whites in every professional metric, you are our natural subordinate that relies on the benefits of empire to bolster your mediocrity. If whites (elites) werent initiated in the mystery cults, your achievements would be nill.

>> No.56218049

>>56218017
Right you are awesome and we suck. Now fuck off and don't ever come near me, thx. I would prefer death over being swamped with your genetic lineage.

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>>56218049
t. ungrateful welfare recipient

>> No.56218074

>>56218017
oh wow the 4th worlder is making up fabricated realities where they are better workers and do more in life. top cuck at this delusional sub90 retard. making up cope realities. you do not surpass and outdo whites in all regards. the only reason you even get jobs is because one is hired than he goes and hires 500 more of his caste and floods the company with his caste. stop making up larp realities to cope with your sub 90 IQ you pathetic 4th worlder.

>> No.56218081

>>56217996
To add onto this, right when things seemed to be picking up economically in the mid 2000s, the 2008 crash happened. This was the death knell for malls and many retail shops in general.

The whole point of the mall is that it's built on the idea that you have excess cash to spend. So yeah, you might go to JCPenny to get a pair of shorts, but then you decide to walk around the mall and window shop, and you might end up buying a drink or something from the food court.

People forget how much of the mall was about experiencing novelty. That's why a lot of teenagers would hang out at malls even if they barely spent money. You could just walk around, check out the different shops and their products, see what was new on sale, make mental notes for later. Maybe you'd go in the video game store and be able to play a demo of a video game for 20 minutes or something for free.

If anything I think the internet had a greater effect on that aspect of the mall. All of a sudden you could learn about new products on the internet, and even if you didn't buy them that way, you were just consuming more information. It made going to the mall for the experience of novelty was less of a driving factor mall visits. Before 2000, people would often go to malls to hang out or just to stroll and pass the time to not be bored at home. After 2000, when people did go it was more often to one shop and then they would leave immediately. This was compounded by economic downturn which meant people were less likely to walk around and make impulse purchases

>> No.56218088

>>56218017
that pic isn't fair because you picked two hideous white women pigs on the right. replace the right with Margot Robbie and Gal Gadot scissoring pls thks

>> No.56218090

>>56217245
Amazon dot com started the downfall.
The realization that suburbs (and car dependency) are a scam was the nail in the coffin.

>> No.56218100

>>56218070
Cope bitch you will be banned from entry to any of our future countries lol.

The current ones are already dying and we all know it.

https://fortune.com/2023/09/27/elon-musk-retail-theft-philadelphia-looting-walmart-target-rite-aid/amp/

^brown genetics in action. From a the most glorious nation to see the face of this Earth to whatever the current abomination is.

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>>56218074
you were irrelevant for all of history for a reason

you were despised by Rome and the surrounding nations for a reason

you started the 1000 year dark age for a reason.

you got your little pussy reupholstered with your pathetic reptilian alliance, giving you the keys to the kingdom and you still dont know what to do with it.

Pathetic

>> No.56218133

>>56218017
Don't you have a gas station that smells like rancid curry shit to go work at?

>> No.56218151

>>56218110
oh ok racist trash. keep on posting your anti white racism and your racial superiority bullshit somewhere else. is there an indian /pol/ for you to go and talk about how superior you guys think you are now that you faked putting a space device up in space (nice fake btw hilarious your people think its real). keep on trucking pussnuts you arent superior you're IQ is at best 98 and you think because you're hired for being in some caste by some other loser you're special? without all the privilages you get these days by your caste hirings you would be sweeping poop off your cart in india. fuck off rankesh and take your racism and racial faggotry to /polindia/. normally I dont waste my time on trash like you but I can tell you're a special type of 4th world arrogance tht needs to be slapped verbally a bit

>> No.56218167

>>56217245
Bus lines, which leads to
>>56217253

>> No.56218188

>>56218100
now i understand, youre an npc
dont talk to me

>>56218151
if we were in our rightful position, the golden age would return. We live in kali yuga however so the world is forced to watch you fumble and crawl, yet demand recognition for the shitshow. Yet your angry lel

>> No.56218200

>>56218188
oh jeez another wierdo 4th worlder going on about mystical magical voodoo magic. ok cart vendor rankesh its time you learned the poo witch doesnt exist and its safe to use the toliets to go bathroom. THERE IS NO POO WITCH

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>>56218188
youre but a dimly lit lantern compared to the beauty of alignment, you are a child that thinks they understand it all

>> No.56218231

>>56218188
>anyone with a brain can pinpoint the exact moment brownoid genetics have started ruining everything
DuRr nPc

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>>56218201
>>56218200

you arent happy because you arent in alignment, self serving lies, you are a tadpole in a river of shit. Limited perspective and closested to whats truly possible, now pull the tapeworm out of your ass and mediatte

>> No.56218292

>>56217318
>sq ft
this doesnt explain anything

>> No.56218320

>>56218233
rankesh go sweep the kart down and roll it out to the vendor spot and stop posting your insane ramblings online about you eating poop and loving feces and other tapeworms up your butt stuff. run along now retarded sub90 rankesh the cart vendor your trolling is done and over now

>> No.56218364

>>56217245
>bad land use
>surrounded by moats of parking
>middle of nowhere, far from everything
>only occupied by globohomo corporations
>every mall is the same
>the novelty wore off and everyone realises it's a shit social hub
city malls work just fine all around the world, but the american mall built in fucking nowhere was never going to succeed

>> No.56218408

>>56217996
>and it wasn't like niggers drove 20 miles
There are literally mall robbing nigger crews driving hours out of their way to raid the remaining suburban malls now. It only takes one or two incidents to spook the shopping public.

>> No.56218417

>>56217901
>>56217969
>>56218017
>>56218110
>>56218201

Ah the intellectually dishonest pseudo Intellectual retard is back with verbose ENGLISH drivel, who lambasts modern European culture while likely being a beneficiary of it (either in terms of education, housing or employment, and if not then to the extent of your loquacious and lackadaisical ranting of such verbosity, of course harnessed with the ENGLISH language, which you likely take much pride and enjoyment in - otherwise why would you be posting in verbose english so frequently.

And yet again you project your own faults onto others and yet again you dishonestly imply that Rome and Greece were never European or white. And likely, yet again, your won't respond to me, and if you do it will be a selective incomplete response in bad faith with 0 intellectual honesty. You are insipid.
The only silver lining is ultimately your own arrogance will at some point hold account your future self-inflicted, inevitable mistakes (you are but a fallible, albeit arrogant human being) and no amount of intellectual gymnastics or blame shifting will change this. The arrogance and derangement of people like you crumble under the weight of any semblence of pressure or exacting review.
Now answer this question HONESTLY: why are the living standards and life outcomes of non colonial eastern European countries like Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland (per capita wealth, wealth inequity, health, crime) better than most of the unions of India, compared individually? (I say indian unions as they are equivalent in governmental autonomy as small eastern euro states apart of the EU).

>> No.56218431

>>56217901
>>56217969
>>56218017
>>56218110
>>56218201

Ah the intellectually dishonest pseudo Intellectual retard is back with verbose ENGLISH drivel, who lambasts modern European culture while likely being a beneficiary of it (either in terms of education, housing or employment, and if not then to the extent of your loquacious and lackadaisical ranting of such verbosity, of course harnessed with the ENGLISH language, which you likely take much pride and enjoyment in - otherwise why would you be posting in verbose english so frequently.

And yet again you project your own faults onto others and yet again you dishonestly imply that Rome and Greece were never European or white. And likely, yet again, your won't respond to me, and if you do it will be a selective incomplete response in bad faith with 0 intellectual honesty. You are insipid.
The only silver lining is ultimately your own arrogance which will at some point hold to account your future self-inflicted, inevitable mistakes (you are but a fallible, albeit arrogant human being) and no amount of intellectual gymnastics or blame shifting will change this. The arrogance and derangement of people like you crumble under the weight of any semblence of pressure or exacting review.
Now answer this question HONESTLY: why are the living standards and life outcomes of non colonial eastern European countries like Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland (per capita wealth, wealth inequity, health, crime) better than most of the unions of India, compared individually? (I say indian unions as they are equivalent in governmental autonomy as small eastern euro states apart of the EU)

>> No.56218471

>>56218292
it does. It's retail space per person.

>> No.56218556

>>56217318
How much of that is the existence of big box stores?

>> No.56218559

>>56218408
>There are literally mall robbing nigger crews driving hours out of their way to raid the remaining suburban malls now. It only takes one or two incidents to spook the shopping public.

Yeah but this really isn't a common occurrence. There was never serious crime at any of the big suburban malls in my midwest metro area. The one toward the suburbs on the east side of town with the black people did have problems (yet surprisingly is actually still open).

Crime and diversity were not the only factors and arguably not even the main factors when it comes to the decline of malls. People still go shopping, just not at traditional malls

>> No.56218591

>>56217318
Does that include the parking lots?

>> No.56218668

>>56218431
>Ah the intellectually dishonest pseudo Intellectual retard is back with verbose ENGLISH drivel, who lambasts modern European culture while likely being a beneficiary of it (either in terms of education, housing or employment, and if not then to the extent of your loquacious and lackadaisical ranting of such verbosity, of course harnessed with the ENGLISH language, which you likely take much pride and enjoyment in
the autism on display here is literally unbelievable

>> No.56218682

too much walking
malls needed to adapt with motorized scooters and maybe a four lane highway through the middle of the mall but they never did

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>>56217253
For some parts of the US, unironically this.
/thread

>> No.56218722

>>56218668
There's nothing autistic about that response to that intellectually dishonest, sactimonious moron.

>> No.56218731

>>56217245
Infinite growth model.
Theres tons of malls doing well today, but business bros shit the bed when the Amazon cut them down.

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>>56217440

>> No.56218851

>>56218722
>and if not then to the extent of your loquacious and lackadaisical ranting of such verbosity
just to spell it out for you: trying hard to sound smart is not the same as being smart, and if you were actually smart, you'd have the self awareness to stop yourself from phrasing yourself that way

>> No.56218867

>>56218471
yea and?

>> No.56218910

>>56218682
they coulda rented hoverboards and it would have been fun as shit but our liability laws are fucked

>> No.56218988

>>56217245
Because people can buy the same Chinese shit online for half the price delivered right to their door. Kids don’t go outside these days, malls are irrelevant. Social media is the main reason why. No one needs to go anywhere to ‘meet’ or ‘hang out’ anymore. Starbucks siphoned some of that I suppose, but drive through coffee is becoming the next big thing in my city. Sarku Japan (Japanese teriyaki) is the only reason I ever go to my mall, if they opened up separately I’d never go
>>56217945
Chocolate Rambo would not approve of this post

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>>56217440
Nigger, you live in a white suburb and don't actually have to endure brown people.

Your point isn't valid.

Fuck off to plebbit, you dumb faggot.

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56219055

>>56217430
It's almost as if being hostile to a whole racial group creates negative consequences to said group.

What a shocker.

>Pic. very related

>> No.56219370

>>56218722
yeah i hate fucking niggers too but im with >>56218851 on this one. the post feels like a peacock flaring its feathers to show off. it works on lesser animals but everyone else can see exactly whats going on.

>> No.56219589

>>56218002
Toys r us, the arcades, and babbages were the only reasons why I ever went to the mall as a kid despite knowing I wouldn't be able to get anything.

>> No.56220043

>>56217440
Nigger

>> No.56220210

>>56218851
>>56219370
Shut the fuck up. I was responding or rather reflecting to that other anons superfluous fluff and verbosity to prove that he wasnt special or unique. The fact that you don't see this makes me doubt you even read my original response or his, you intellectually dishonest dog.

>> No.56220221

>>56218851
>>56219370
Shut the fuck up. I was responding or rather reflecting that other anons superfluous fluff and verbosity to prove that he wasnt special or unique. The fact that you don't see this makes me doubt you even read my original response or his, you intellectually dishonest dog.

>> No.56220236

>>56218851
>>56219370
Actually I think both of you are samefagging with multiple ips and are probably the original arrogant rat I was responding to.

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56220281

>>56217430
> maine
> new hampshire
> vermont
heh

>> No.56220296

Obviously Amazon and friends. With the added pressure of the local jogger crew as has been mentioned. Malls depend on families and kids/teens and they are the first to bolt the moment a place is no longer safe.

>> No.56220370

>>56220236
he's actually fairly eloquent (even if he is wrong, which is not to say you are right) whatever his argument may be, maybe that's what triggers you? you think you can do what he does? as it turns out, you can't, not even in parody.
>>56220210
midwit cope? you just sound like a moron, it's not that complicated

>> No.56220384

>>56220370
whoops, swap the (you)'s

>> No.56220701

I enjoyed reading this thread, guys, thanks !

>> No.56221405

>>56220281
How does West Virginia have the same crime as NY wtf?

>> No.56221450

>>56218233
>posts picture that has to do with individual qualities and how to grow as a person
>ignores that there are in fact bad actors and a general menace who will interfere with personal growth

its not mutually exclusive. some of the blame lies with yourself, but many problems are in fact caused by others and the world would be better without them; tolerating bad things is bad itself and leads to apathy

>> No.56221499

>>56217253
Based.

>> No.56221515

>>56217440
Stereotypes exist for a reason.

>> No.56221536

>>56217996
As the European people die off so will their ideas.

>> No.56221537

>>56221405
Poverty and meth. WV basically had their economy deleted when we stopped building new coal fired power plants.

>> No.56221559

Some combination of demographic changes and shopping habits changing. You went to malls because that was the only place where you, your mom and siblings could all find what you needed that align with your respective interests.

Online shopping has killed that part of it. Plus resale department stores have lost a large portion of their business from DTC brands and online shopping, why shop/order from Macy's when you can order from N brand directly, for a lower price and better service?

Separately, the social habits of people have changed and relative risk of being in relatively free/open and loosely-controlled areas has increased. Socializing in general has gone down, and the desire to be around people in this type of space has gone down even more so.

>> No.56221569
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>>56217440
You’re disgusting

>> No.56221571

>>56217245
>>56217253
White people. Specifically, white-flight-fueled suburban expansion is inherently flawed and unsustainable at a basic economic level. Malls are large, high-quality infrastructure that suburban density can't sustain in the long run. Potential consumers ene up spending too much money on maintaining basic municipal infrastrutcture and transportation costs and don't have enough for retail purchases. Credit and tax base expansion extend the charade but only for so long. As >>56217461 points out, malls are still viable in Europe and Asia, but fails to recognize that its because of those regions' high population densities, which drive high foot traffic of consumers with disposable income.

>> No.56221593

>>56217901
>siphon resources from the global south
It’s called expanding into untapped markets, because the population there is too fucking crude and stupid to know how to use it.

>> No.56221607

>>56217996
This is correct, but see>>56221571 for why the paradigm was unstable to begin with. There are bazaars in West Asia that date back hundreds of years.

>> No.56221628

>>56221593
t. France. How's Niger working out, Macaloon?

>> No.56221644

>>56221537
Tourism is taking off. It'll become the Cabo of the Mountains.

>> No.56221657

>>56221405

I would guess a lot of property crime/theft. On violent crime rankings they're firmly average.

>> No.56221660

>>56217245
commercial real estate being laughably expensive.

>> No.56222106

>>56218133
Hey fuck you. The blue collar owner operators who often came here illegally to escape India are not the fucking same as these h1b fags who think they are too good to cook and clean and think because they work for a big corporation that they are vishnu now. Blue collar Indians are the tip of the spear. We paved the way for these assholes to come over here but they brought their bullshit caste and poop lifestyle with them and fuck it up for all of us. The blue collar other operator Indians are based. Especially the sikhs. They don't beg or steal or play games. Honorary white men.

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>>56217440
How many times do your biases have to be confirmed before your silky smooth brain realizes that it's not just confirmation bias?

>> No.56222212

>>56222106
i gotta jump on this bandwagon the sikhs are based noble-minded down on their luck and suckers when it comes to game theory. they deserve entry into the golden palace i hope they get it.
gadaffi had a similar thing goin but his ideology was way less stable and couldn't last without him.

>> No.56222565

>>56217245
this thread reeks

>> No.56223037

>>56218233
>>56218668
>>56218851
>>56220370
>>56220384
Hopping IPs doesn't work if you keep using the verbose lowercase troon posting style

>> No.56223234

>>56217253
Pretty much this. Tourists constantly getting robbed and stabbed at the mall near me

>> No.56223246

>>56217253
FPBP malls are still thriving in homogenous societies

>> No.56223258

>obvious bot thread
>nubiz redditor retards rush in to post their 2 cents

>> No.56223320

>>56221571
Yeah it's white people's fault that for some reason malls existed and thrived for almost 100 years in America when they were the dominate race and then they all started closing up when various shitskins suddenly became the other 50% of the population. Somehow it's simulatiously white people's fault for simply leaving yet the diversity that is supposed to be our strength is completely unable to maintain anything at all without the presence of their white oppressors. Curious.

>> No.56223399

>>56217253
This. Allowing transit into malls was a terrible idea. What used to be a nice outing on the weekend has turned into a game of "avoid the nigs while getting the good deals at Old Navy or Macy's". Such a shame, niggers ruin everything.

>> No.56223432

>>56217440
jannies, trannies and jews go hand in hand

>> No.56223443

>>56217440
Seethe nigger lover. Go hang out in the ghetto or your local mall with your pet nigs.

>> No.56223507

>>56217901
>whites are not a productive people
You typed this on a computer. Do you have any idea how many white people were involved to even allow you to do this? Oh… wait. You’re retarded. Nevermind. Whatever you do, don’t think too deeply about this, it might hurt your head.

>> No.56223525

>>56223320
>malls existed and thrived for almost 100 years in America
First modern mall is closer to 50 years old than 100.
>when various shitskins suddenly became the other 50% of the population.
That hasn't happened yet.
Malls "thrived" like the rest of the suburbs "thrived": you can build a lot of shiny new things by selling out your children's earning potential. Maintenance becomes impossible once you no longer have the money to cover even interest payments. The suburbs were a hysterical response to white fragility that doomed much of our economy via Ponzi-like mechanics.

>> No.56223538

I've learned that retail rents have skyrocketed for some reason, probably because commercial spaces are usually funded by high interest rate carrying debt maybe?

Stores at my shitty local mall are anywhere from $4000 to $10,000 a month, for some tiny store in some goofy mall. So in order to runa business, you've basically lost the ability to pay 1 or 2 full time employees just for the keys to the doors.

Everyone shops online now anyways, and stores dont make enough revenue to justify soaring commercial rent costs.

Its probably a good thing, malls were an outdated concept anyways. Better to have a massive warehouse and just bulk deliver everything, its the same carbon footprint eitherway, probably less since now you dont have to drive and walk around 20 different departments for your needs.

>> No.56223539

>>56223507
>Do you have any idea how many white people were involved to even allow you to do this?
Probably less than the number of brown people who were exploited and robbed of their land's natural resources to even make the the R&D work possible, let alone manufacturing.

>> No.56223546

>>56223525
>white fragility
Kek shitskin. You will never belong here no matter how much the zionist government or self hating whites claim otherwise.

>> No.56223561

>>56217440
I hope you are aware this website these days is ran by a white supremacist who has deliberately fostered it to promote racism through a biased moderation policy. Gookmoot is totally vacant from the scene, RapeApe is in charge.

Just leave if you're not happy.

>> No.56223597

>>56223539
>Probably less than the number of brown people who were exploited and robbed of their land's natural resources to even make the the R&D work possible, let alone manufacturing

Sounds like whites were pretty productive if they managed to do that to so many people on the other side of the world lmao

>> No.56223614

>>56217440
>facts are racist

sorry facts are facts. if a certain group commits the most crime ends up getting arrested the most that's not "racist" that's cause and effect.

>> No.56223624

>>56223539
Oh no… exploited and robbed? Those poor nonwhites. I am sure you have lots of evidence of this, as well as the burgeoning nonwhite precious metals industry. After all, they had electricity, computers, engineering marvels and automobiles before we did, right? It’s such a shame that we took all of that from them. They were certainly just mere minutes away from discovering nuclear fusion before the white men showed up.

>> No.56223697

>>56223525
>That hasn’t happened yet
It literally has, it’s clear as day that you’re not familiar with the statistics. I am perennially disappointed in you people, give me a fucking intellectual argument that doesn’t fall apart or fuck off. What a waste

>> No.56223702

>>56217253
fpbp

>> No.56223704

>>56217996
Based old fuck

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>>56223546
>You will never belong here no matter how much the zionist government or self hating whites claim otherwise.
lol

>> No.56223716

>>56223546
>Whites kick natives off their own property
>Then start kicking and screaming when coloreds do the same to them
pottery

>> No.56223720

>>56223597
Making other people do all the work whilst you point a gun at them is the opposite of productive.

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>>56217440

>> No.56223741

>>56223716
Did the Indians "own" America?

>> No.56223748

>>56223720
Ye but building the boats, and developing the weaponry to go to the other side of the world and enforce your will on a foreign culture is.

Maybe instead of bitching about dem white folk you should ask why your ancestors were so culturally weak and regressive that a people from the other side of the world could come over on boats and exploit you the way they did.

>> No.56223762

>>56223624
>I am sure you have lots of evidence of this, as well as the burgeoning nonwhite precious metals industry.
I actually do lmao.
>After all, they had electricity, computers, engineering marvels and automobiles before we did, right?
>They were certainly just mere minutes away from discovering nuclear fusion before the white men showed up.
Strawman. How are those western state/Canadian wildfires working out for you? Sure is a shame white people killed all the natives who had knowledge of the time-tested processes for preventing them. Also super weird how the East Coast and Midwest supported sustainable agriculture for thousands of years, only for the Dust Bowl to show up a mere 100 after mass white settlement and cash crop overplanting. Good thing there wasn't a black dude named after the first president who bailed the South out with his crop rotation research, or it might BTFO your horrible argument.
>>56223697
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045222

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>>56217430
>telling lied on the internet.
Quality of life, crime rates, poverty, IQ, SAT scores and quality of life maps of the US are just racial demographic maps.

https://youtu.be/Mhrkyjxkdi0?si=dqBz3kkyoJ35m3mn

>> No.56223767

>>56223741
yes

>> No.56223779

>>56223748
>Ye but building the boats
Muslims
> and developing the weaponry
Chinese

>> No.56223794

>>56223720
I don’t think you fully grasp the definition of “productive”. If pointing guns at slaves produces a boat, that’s productive. That being said, are you equating the slave labor that assisted with shipbuilding to the actual process of building a ship? Do you even know how wooden ships are built? I don’t think you have a clue.

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>>56218017
>Indian
We have a live shiteater hear gents. This is the viden shilling granny fucker laughing stock from /smg/. He lives in a shithole in comifornia and drive a base model tesla. Keep an eye out in the future for a story about an indian man burning to death in a car fire.

>> No.56223848

>>56223779
Ye vikings and romans learnt to built boats from muslims lmao, and chinese invented gunpowder, but the unproductive white man refined it to be used in practical warfare

But if you're gonna argue from a point of regression then every single invention can be culturally accredited to the first primitives who made the wheel and discovered fire, yawn.

>> No.56223849

>>56223525
Yes, it has happened. How come you magical negros can't maintain the cities that you control? For some reason they all turn into complete shitholes and there are absolutely zero counter examples. Perhaps you're the problem?

>> No.56223858

>>56223794
>I don’t think you fully grasp the definition of “productive”.
That's my line. A manager can't claim the productivity of the actual labor. If he does, it's a false claim; he's stolen credit for their work. His direct labor is necessarily less. This doesn't speak at all to the important of management in completing a large scale task, only to the amount of labor - productivity - involved, and how that's apportioned.

Idiot.

>> No.56223898

>>56223762
Oh wow… sustainable agriculture? Lmao. It was sustainable because they did not develop an industrial civilization. They were tribes wearing loincloths and slicing eachothers’ scalps off. You expect me to be impressed by wigwams? They didn’t even domesticate draft animals, they were literally in the Stone Age.

As for crop rotation, once again, congratulations, a broken clock is right twice a day. You really think you had a zinger there, didn’t you? What a joke.

>> No.56223910

>>56223858
I am getting an eerily stinky communist smell from your post, if you really think that way, it’s totally unsurprising to me that you lack even a basic understanding of world history or industrialization.

>> No.56223919

>>56223848
>Ye vikings and romans learnt to built boats from muslims lmao
Wind-powered seafaring vessels? Gonna give you one guess who ruled the country galleons came from.
>and chinese invented gunpowder
They invented fire lances and hand cannons.
Direct predecessors to/the first versions of The Things We're Talking About

>> No.56223933

>>56223849
>Yes, it has happened
See >>56223762
>Control
"Control".

>> No.56223944

>>56223919
Also, nice ID, “MTF”, kek

>> No.56223948

>>56217245
Niggers. Also kikes knew it would be more profitable to have everyone sitting at home and click a button to order shit online. They destroyed socialization and communities for profits

>> No.56223954

>>56217253
https://youtu.be/DpQhztWgrKM?t=27

>> No.56223961

>>56223898
>Oh wow… sustainable agriculture? Lmao. It was sustainable because they did not develop an industrial civilization.
>It turns out that industrial agriculture without deep control and computerized analysis is impossible.
>Attempts at industrialization fail and sustainable semi-direct stewardship becomes the status quo.
>We are just relearning this now.
>You really think you had a zinger there, didn’t you?
I did. It's fun to watch you squirm because your knowledge base is so low that you didn't even consider it.
>>56223910
I accept your surrender.

>> No.56223963

>>56218017
>cries about whites
>talks white
>begs whites for handouts
>begs whites for place in their society

lmao cringe

>> No.56223971

>>56223944
Completely btfo and reduced to transphobia. lmao

>> No.56223982

>>56217253
FIPPU BIPPORO SENSEI

>> No.56223984
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>>56223971
>nigger accepting his place in the anti-white hierarchy

why aren't you more salty about having your color included with the shitdick flag?

>> No.56223999

>>56223961
I never cease to be amazed by the capacity of a communist’s ego to outstrip their understanding of history. The Germans were right, you people probably belong in camps. Speaking of which, what is your opinion on national socialism? I’m interested to hear just how unbelievably warped your perspective is on this, too

>> No.56224012

>>56223984
benderlaughing.gif

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>>56223999
Total schizo breakdown. Meds, now.

>> No.56224029

>>56223919
Ye romans and vikings had wind-powered seafaring vessels, pick up a fuckin history book jfc, you think muslims invented sails?
>They invented fire lances and hand cannons.

And white man went on to invent ak47 and atomic bomb and ships that didn't even need wind or rowing power to move, whats your point?

Like I said you're just arguing from regression and any innovation from any culture just comes from improving on an already existing idea.

The premise of your argument that whites aren't productive is nonsense anyway, you act like there is and was no such thing as a working class population in white countries. Go research how working class people lived and worked in victorian times during the industrial revolution and then come back to me.

>> No.56224056

>>56217253
RACIST FUCK. One day real soon, REAL soon, scum like you will be put in re-education camps. You racist mother fucker.

>> No.56224069

>>56224018
Since you dodged the question, let me be very clear with you. Agrarian communism results in the Holodomor every time; you are a tacit Holodomor supporter. The Germans were right about communists like you, and you likely deserve to rot in a labor camp. I will sleep comfortably knowing that you will never reach a true understanding of even the most basic historical truths, my smugness is like a fine wine that only gets better with age.

>> No.56224080

>>56224029
He’s a communist, you should take it easy on him. Visualizing things outside of his upper class bubble is difficult for him. You’d think that all that focus on labor politics would give him a morsel of insight, but it looks like even that escaped his grasp

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>>56223763
Oh yeah? Well as a Floridian all I gotta say is
>if dolphins were so smart why do they live in igloos?

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Anyone notice how some malls go bust and others expand a lot and still do fine despite high crime and online shopping having taken over? I think it's all a property tax backroom deal game. Like local government big shots make private deals and let some fall on purpose and others they prop up no matter what for public relations. It's all dirty biz and your either in the private club or not.

>> No.56225209

>>56223984
What about the yellows? They’re basically lumped in with us whites now?

>> No.56225305

>>56217245
The internet and how easy it is to get anything you like from the comfort and safety of your own home

>> No.56225314

>>56217440
Die you fucking nigger lover. Do you even know where you are???
Niggers have literally ruined everything in the modern world you stupid shit

>> No.56225486

>>56217253
fpbp yet again

>> No.56225506

>>56217253
This is the best answer.
I used to go but now it's full of coons, the stench is horrible.

>> No.56225539

>>56217253

Just giving you another you, because you deserve it

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>>56217440

>> No.56225860

>>56220370
>Responds with the same exact posting style in lower case, just with different ips.
No one is falling for your tricks.
Everytime you post here you get shat on and everytime you get called out, you change your ID and try to manufacture support for your previous rants, while failing to address anyone that calls you out lol.

>> No.56225871

>>56221571
>Europe
>Disposable income
Lol

>> No.56225895

>>56225860
did you seriously start samefagging to save face? take the fucking L lmao

>> No.56226065

>>56218408
>right now
It's not even a new phenomenon, a pack of joggers swarmed the local Walmart 8 years ago. The only difference is they've gotten more brazen; back then they struck in the middle of the night when nobody was around, now they can do it in broad daylight.

>> No.56226141

>>56217440
Lol that's good bait.

>> No.56226170

>>56225895
Nice projection. Iv read this entire thread. Stop change (you)re IP address. Your raid is futile no one is failing for you illogical rhetoric. You are quick to call out logical fallacies then resort to them the very next minute.

>> No.56226194

>>56217253
True

>> No.56226268

>Xm4MH5VQ
Daily reminder that most shills on this site are professional Israeli.
https://pastebin.com/edUqQV1e

http://www.thejidf.org
https://act-il.com/

https://youtu.be/7dGJDJoeAok
>wikipedia editing

https://youtu.be/tYleadaZ8vM
>JIDF shill recruitment video

https://youtu.be/dQqZf9nbjHw
>jew shill operation center

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/revealed-disinformation-team-jorge-claim-meddling-elections-tal-hanan

>> No.56226269

>>56217253
Correct and based.

>> No.56226274

>>56223538
I can vouch for this. A lot of shops had the old combo lock in the front door with a posted notice of past due rent from the property management. Some shitty 1200sq ft shop owned like $35k for 4 months of unpaid rent. I don’t have to be an MBA to know there’s no fucking way to run a business if rent alone is like $8k/mo. It wasn’t even my city’s premier mall, an older one in a lower-middle class area. How the fuck do the no -corpo businesses even stay open paying that much in rent??

>> No.56226454

>>56217245
A: Inflation, Minorities, Limited Consumer Spending, Online Shopping, Fuel Costs, Utility Costs, Interest Rates.

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>>56217253
bazinga

>> No.56226921

>>56217366
ok boomer