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Low IQ doomers think this actually matters.

>> No.56194573

>>56194554
>former empire debasing their currency

You're right this has never happened before in recorded history so we don't know what will happen.

>> No.56194848

>>56194573
History had no concept of MMT. We now know how to to grow the economy in a healthy and sustainable way with debt.

>> No.56194998

>>56194554

>it doesn't matter

The basic silver coin of the Roman Empire was the denarius. By decree of Caesar Augustus in 15 b.c.e, It was nearly pure silver, 95–98%, and had a fixed weight and value in relationship to the rest of the Roman monetary system. Over the next 270 years, the silver content of the denarius declined gradually and then precipitously to about 2%. This degradation occurred more rapidly in the provinces than in Rome. The microstructures of a series of Roman denarii taken from thi stime period are used to illustrate these changes.

The final stage of the denarius was a duplex plated coin with a neatly copper core and a silver surface. This produced a lower-cost coin with an apparent value equal to the previous ones. Eventually, the surface coating was so thin that it quickly rubbed off after the coin left the mint. By this time (280 c.e.), the silver coinage of the empire had almost totally lost its value and had to be reconstituted by Diocletion. Among the coins studied is an early duplex plated denarius of Caesar Augustus, probably an early forgery produced during his lifetime in clear violation of his edict.

>> No.56195013

>>56194848
>Mmt cult
>Sustainable
The elephant sucking himself off without eating is still the best visualization of that religious cult

>> No.56195032
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>>56194554
>>56194573
>>56194848
>>56194998
>>56195013
It's priced in.

>> No.56195103

>>56194998
Two more weeks eh chuddy

>> No.56195183

>>56194848
Is that why the price for a kebab over last 20 years 3x and that of real estate 6x but my salary only 3.5x even so I went from minimum wage to top 10% salaries in my first world country?

Is that what you consider under control you fucking MMT monkey?

>> No.56195221

>>56195103
crashing everything @ 33.3 trillion does have a nice ring to it.

>> No.56195225

>>56194573
>>56195013
>>56194998

Doomer retards honestly need to be put in to collars and chains or psyche wards. The world would actually implode if you people were given an ounce of power over others LMFAO

>> No.56195224
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>>56194554
>#JEWS LIVES MATTER

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>>56194554
>Low IQ doomers think this actually matters.

The government borrows money from the citizens called Bonds, then the government pays it back with the money it takes from the citizens called Taxes.

The government can never go broke as long as citizens buy bonds and pay taxes.

>> No.56195294

>>56195225
>>56195103

How often do you guys think about the Roman empire?

>> No.56195303

Also if you think things are so great show me your long positions.

>> No.56195321

Yep as I thought just a bunch of larpers that aren't even in the market.

>> No.56195405

>>56195294
Le funnie tiktok maymay

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>>56194554
People dont seem to know, that inflation only took off, once Biden came into office.
The man has basically destroyed the west.

>> No.56195422

>>56195225

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Whoever hired you failures is wasting budget

>> No.56195432

>>56194848
I wonder what the romans called it, modern coinage metals?
>we now know how to grow the economy in a healthy and sustainable way with copper coins

>> No.56195494

>>56195416
That is a lagging indicator. The only reason it spiced because of the disasterous economy under the last administration. Once the adults got back in charge we experience the greatest economic recovery in generations and as you will notice, what people call "inflation" is now coming back down.

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>>56195494
Wages started to turn to shit also shortly after Biden came into office

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>>56195494
Imagine killing domestic oil leases to increase the price of the primary input for the entire economy and blaming it on the last guy. Good bait, you'll get some communist cucks to agree with you.

>> No.56195567

>>56194848
>We now know how to to grow the economy in a healthy and sustainable way with debt.
Lol

>> No.56195572

>>56195516
where the fuck is he getting his data

>> No.56195600

>>56195237
>the government pays it back
lol no the government issues more bonds to pay off its bonds creating a snowball of debt.

Taxes are a relic of the past system, now only used to subjugate.

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>>56194554
You're right. Total debt says nothing. It's all about the net interest on that debt.

>> No.56195631

>>56194848
> P<P+I
>somehow this is sustainable
Kill yourself

>> No.56195718

>>56195225
The world is already imploding dipshit

>> No.56195748

It means that they have to devalue the currency faster immediately in order to minimize the actual value of the debt. The printers will be back on within 6 months, add in an election year on a deeply unpopular president and it's a foregone conclusion.

>> No.56195764

>>56195748
>Devalue currency
>Have inflation run wild
>During highly politicized period
That's the recipe for civil war

>> No.56195784

>>56194848
MMT is a way to delay the inevitable inflation, but the chickens come home to roost.

Eventually it gets a country in a double edged sword. Inflation at one end or the government not being able to afford interest payments on the other end.

With the way our total debt is going our government won’t be able to afford 5% rates the next time inflation picks up.

See for more info.

>>56195627

>> No.56195799

>>56195494
Lagging indicators don’t exist. That is a democrat cope, I’m not even a boomer republican

>> No.56195801

>>56195627
Breh no one cares.
Oil went negative, so we just ignored it.
Every indicator says crash. Whatever faggot. Economy keeps chugging along and hoomers in particular are making sick gains.
The world's changed since 2008. Half of the third world has been imported so the market will stay strong and resilient.

>> No.56195812

>>56195784
Inflation is picking up. According to the data at hand Powell would had to raise rates by at least 50 bepis a week ago. He didn't, knowing that it would have killed the economy, so they did the band aid of higher projections which isn't going to prevent what is coming
The US is going into civil unrest the least by Christmas, maybe even civil war, and that when security forces fail to recruit and fill their quotas

>> No.56195862

>>56195812
There will be no civil war outside niggers and antifa (seemingly mainly comprised of jews, certainly led by them) burning down your towns. Remember when they took over city blocks and the government did absolutely nothing and in some cases encouraged it?

>> No.56195889

>>56195862
Is that going to be the narrative? Enjoy Weimar, Powell kneecaped the USA last week. And it won't be for the benefit of bricshitter or anybody else. When he hegemon fails, the result is dark age

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>>56195862
There is a chance the government shuts down, because of the huge debt.
I dont think the republicans will be able to pass a budget with this spending.

>> No.56195938

>>56194848
Show us your nose shekelstien.

>> No.56195960

>>56195904
Sounds like a good time to bring back the taxes for the rich that Trump cut.

>> No.56195974

>>56195516
Fucking kek just realized this is the kike that said the internet will have no major impact on the world economy back in 1991

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>> No.56196004

>>56195960
>Eat the "rich"
>The "rich" withdraw their wealth
Read the fable of the bees while you starve in the street

>> No.56196051

>>56196004
The numbers are in: trickle down doesn't work, Big Bad Joe Biden Economics does. Besides, if Republicans won't recognize that reversing the tax cut is the solution, they lose their fiscal responsibility calling card.

>> No.56196065

>>56196051
Who the fuck shit in your brain. I suppose college lecturers unironically brainwashed by Soviet propaganda.

>> No.56196075

>>56196065
Double besides, let the rich fucking leave, and let the people control the resources, and their own destiny.

>> No.56196090

>>56196075
Read the fable of the bees. It's a very short text and has buttfuck nothing to do with (((trickle down))) or other post 1945 brainwashed retardation theories

>> No.56196093

>>56195572
It says right there bro
>EXCLUDES
>food
>energy
>shelter
>cars
Y'know the stuff that people actually are using and buying. That kind of data

>> No.56196100

>>56194554
op actually nailed it
32 didn't matter
33 didn't matter
33.1 sure as fuck doesn't matter

>> No.56196128

>>56195416
trump was a huge deficit spender, the inflation was coming
biden is just as bad, we haven't even seen his inflation yet
ironically, biden got blamed for trumps inflation, and if trump wins, he'll be blamed for biden's inflation, kek

>> No.56196134

>>56196090
I don't fucking give a shit. They can pay their fair share, or they can take their totally liquid assets, and get the fuck out of my home. And we the people, like our forefathers, where bear down, and rebuild if we must with a little elbow grease. You see, the problem isn't that we don't want to work. We would love the opportunity. And what are the wealthy going to do, have a chinook pickup their factory or home and fly it off to some place that will let them have free reign and subjugate their people. This is the land where everybody is created equal. The government is suppose to create policies that are favorable for all, not just one class. So go on. Pick up your fucking bags and move: buttercup.

>> No.56196144

>>56196134
>Fair share
Terminally brainwashed. I see retards like you literally cheering for their enslavement. You won't be part of the poliz bureau

>> No.56196147

>>56196004
>The "rich" withdraw their wealth
Ah, yes, they are just going to take their factories and move them?

>> No.56196154

>>56196144
Nice reading skills: bot.

>> No.56196157

>>56196147
No. They are just going to close them down. But I guess you are looking forward to be slaves for the gubermint, your daddy.

>> No.56196167

>>56196157
What part of we want to work don't you understand?

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>>56195225
I'm posting this image as a joke because red vs blue is a distraction. The end is nigh for everyone. What does that mean? Collapse in 5 years? 20 years? I don't know but Op is right and also a troon. I hate giving troons credit. Soon enough it won't matter and we can start Mad Max style end days.

>> No.56196194

>>56196167
>We
There is no "we" there is an I there is a you there is a he/she
"We", "you"(plural), "they" is manipulation of speech and brains. You (singluar) are not an ant, but you (singluar) apparently got manipulated into welcoming, your slavery

>> No.56196195

>>56194554
Just to think there are people who exist today whose entire contribution to society is paying off debt that grows exponentially. You're right that it doesn't matter, but it sure is fucking funny.

>> No.56196204

>>56194554
That’s why they’re poor and why the doomer sellers are rich. The bunker seller is rich af. Canadian prepper is buying land. It’s like the doctor that lives in his multimillion dollar house.

>> No.56196205

>>56196194
He who questions the will of the people, will learn might.

>> No.56196245

>>56196205
There is no "people" there are overlapping interests, preferences and affection among different fuzzy sets of Is. In the current "society" which is maximum fractured, atomized, with no trust and no shared reality those overlaps are rare.
There won't be your communist utopia, your college lecturers planted in your brain to scam you without violence, not from the "people" but top down from the false neo-aristocracy of monopolists and their enablers in politics

You apparently decided to be their useful idiot

>> No.56196256

>>56196245
When did not providing tax cuts for the rich become communist? How deluded are you?

>> No.56196265

>>56196205
Who are these people? What do you have in common with a spic immigrant, a nigger or a leftist furrykin?

>> No.56196279

>>56196256
Define "rich". Am I with lower 7 figures rich? Is somebody with high 6 figures "rich". It's a fucking subjective term that depends on perspective, and a tool to manipulate idiots like you

>> No.56196281

>>56196265
This country has been multicultural since the beginning.

>> No.56196286

>>56194848
Accelerate

>> No.56196291

>>56196279
It should be pretty simple: those that received a Trump tax cut, don't no more.

>> No.56196293

>>56196281

kike psyop

>> No.56196294

>>56194554
>for the first time
You can take almost any day on that chart and it will be the highest its ever been up to that point.

>> No.56196296

>>56196281
Not correct. It started in the late 19th century. You mutts have been the failed experiment by the Coudenhove-Kallergists failed qtard like plan of the enlightened mutt ethnicity

>> No.56196304

>>56196291
Fuck are you stupid. Terminally brainwashed. Pull your head out of your ass and stop sniffing your last meal

>> No.56196307

>>56196281
Nope. They're not your people. They don't see you as their people and if shit goes south you will learn very swiftly.

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>>56195974

>> No.56196330

>>56196307
Of course they're not mine. I'm not a slave owner. I'm just a man, that is one with the people.

>> No.56196334

America's not gonna live to 2030

>> No.56196356

>>56196330
You are a willing slave and you confirmed that with each of your posts

>> No.56196360

>>56196356
You're a slave to your worldview.

>> No.56196369

>>56196360
My world view is rooted in reality, yours in terminal brainwash

>> No.56196392

>>56196369
Human's are incapable of observing reality objectively, that's why we have invented instruments such as the thermometer.

>> No.56196404

>>56196392
Oh this gets better with each reply. A believer in science. You believe in religion, you think about philosophy and you test knowledge with science.
You got literally brainwashed. Deprogram yourself

>> No.56196415

>>56196404
And where's your proof for the past 50 plus years on trickle down economics being effective?

>> No.56196457

>>56196415
What? The fable of the bees has nothing to do with "trickle down" and I consider everything regarding philosophy after 1945 a perversion, especially economic and political philosophy. To break it down, "rich" people have demands, "poor" people are satisfying those demands and so an economy gets going. If there is no "rich" people with demands, there is nothing to satisfy, there is no purpose there is no economy.

Sure, you can apply braindead marxism, which is going to end in idiots removed from the demand trying to steer production demand according to the arrogancy of thinking they can predict the future, which without an exception always results in catastrophic events, because no matter how much data one has, one can never predict the future. The capital optimization problem is unsolvable

>> No.56196506

>>56196457
>bunch of bullshit to skate around the fact that America isn't truly as prosperous for all as it was in the 50s before Tricky Dicky sired the pot

>> No.56196509

>>56194848
we literally live on a finite planet.
there is no such thing as infinite growth.
all growth is limited.

>> No.56196520

>>56196506
The USA is fucked since 1877
Was just a matter of time until the practices that were started in the gilded age, with monopolists using carpet begging to destroy the free market would come bite this failed experiment in the ass

>> No.56196535

>>56195225
You’re a fucking retard. This current monetary system is unsustainable. This is a controlled demolition. The fed can’t constrain the entire economy without breaking something. There is no such thing as a soft landing. What goes up must come down.

>> No.56196562

>>56196520
Things were pretty good before. And all the rich have to do, is let some of that money, they supposedly saved, flow back into the system, and we wouldn't even being having this conversation, you fucking dope. But you're not concerned with discussing anything. You just want to waste time.

>> No.56196574

>>56196093
>>EXCLUDES

I didn't realize the ex as excluding. Makes sense. But what the fuck is data supposed to mean then.

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>>56196562
>Somebody else should take care of me
As said above, you already decided you don't want to be sovereign and take responsibility, you decided to be a slave.

>> No.56196602

>>56194848
This, this time is different

>> No.56196611

>>56196574
Manipulation of minds. Behaviorism

>> No.56196615

>>56196574
If you take out the shit people need to live inflation is going down. Congratulation.

>> No.56196619

>>56196587
You got that from my post saying people want to work.

>> No.56196627

>>56196615
Is it perhaps because those things have other factors affecting their price?

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>>56195494
This. People seem to forget that trump was a covid cuck who bent the knee, took the jab and turned the whole country into NEETs. Biden is worse tho, like letting an alzheimer's patient in a nursing home run the country turning ukraine into a bunch of NEETs and Venezuelans into a bunch of NEETs under our fucking expense. It's so fucking over

>> No.56196644

>>56196619
No. From your permanent mantra of blaming the "rich" and defining it as those that got a tax cut by le ebin Trump, which included self employed people that made about 100k a year, trying to summon the gubermint to take care of your (singular) problems. You apparently made your decision against self responsibility

>> No.56196652

>>56195516
>excludes food, energy, shelter
what else do people even spend money on? krugman truly is delusional

>> No.56196654

>>56196627
Yeah, the factor of being out of bounds for the narrative the fed wants us to believe so their attempt at controlling the economy isn't merely wishful thinking. So I am thinking we line up all the grocery store CFOs and landlords against the wall and see where that takes us.

>> No.56196662

For all those saying "It can't happen" consider that Einstein believed black holes didn't exist, and now 100 years later we have a picture of one.
Don't underestimate clown world.

>> No.56196670

>>56196644
Have you considered I call it a tax cut for the rich, because most Americans got a cut of maybe 100 dollars? And, if the government is having an issue with funds, more revenue isn't going to come from cutting taxes. This is day one shit. How can you call yourself fiscally responsible? Any reply, is just prove that you want to waste time.

>> No.56196681

>>56194573
You know these dumb niggers on this website have never read a book much less a history book. I commend your effort in trying though as you are correct. Every single fiat currency in existence has inflated to nothing.

>> No.56196702

>>56196654
Sure, what they are responsible for, is the money printing aspect. Why should they take the blame for other aspects that influenced price?

>> No.56196705

>>56194573
you mispelled boomer

>> No.56196708

>>56195494
I would attempt to argue with you but I don't argue with dumb inbred niggers. I will leave you with this bit though. They all fucking work for the central banking cartels. All politicians including trump.

>> No.56196711

>>56196670
How about cutting all the socialist programs and subsidies for privileged ad hoc defined economic actors, be it nigger businesses or donators? Sure, bunch of businesses are going out of business then, sure bunch of niggers are going to end on the street, but it's not the governments job to steer the economy and create artificial monopolies and breed slaves and voters. But who am I trying to convince, somebody that already made his decision that he wants to live in a socialist dictatorship

>> No.56196721

>>56196702
>what they are responsible for
Food and roof
>>56196702
>is the money printing as
> Why should they take the blame for other aspects that influenced price
They've chosen to capitalize. Why weren't the smart entrepreneurs not allowed to sell their legally acquired hand sanitizer when the Wuhan bats broken into that lab?

>> No.56196723

>>56196711
If your worldview is shaped on reality, you live on /pol/.

>> No.56196730

>>56196721
Why would the Fed be responsible for food and shelter markets? This isn't a fixed/planned economy.

>> No.56196734

>>56196723
Lol. /pol/ is a socialist board. The difference between you and a /pol/ack is minimal. /pol/acks want to just change the ethnicity from mutt to white. /pol/ larpzis hate me

>> No.56196750

>>56196730
> This isn't a fixed/planned economy.
But it is. Whose resources were infused into the failing banks? Are you here to tell me that once we unwind that one fucking quadrillion in derivates will play out and everyone will get paid?

>> No.56196754

>>56196734
And your love for blacks?

>> No.56196757

>>56194848
kike well poisoner.

Rome should’ve burnt the Carthaginians at the fucking stake when we saw your child sacrifices.

>> No.56196758 [DELETED] 

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>> No.56196764

>>56196750
You don't own dollars, buddy. They're not your resource. That's why you're taxed. It's a duty, a club house fee so that you may use their tool.

>> No.56196768

>>56196754
Niggers? I just like the sound of word. And it's a fact, that especially the democrats have a love for niggers out of one single reason, they are on average more dependent on a central government and therefore more willing to give up responsibility

>> No.56196781

>>56196764
You are one of the most terminally brainwashed parrots that ever spammed on this board

>> No.56196787

>>56196768
Yeah, and how do you know that? Have you met, questioned, surveyed, and followed in the footsteps of a significant portion of the 40 million blacks in America to truly know their behavior, or are you just repeating stuff you heard? That sounds kind of racist.

>> No.56196813

>>56196787
There are demographic statistics and they got heavily behaviorised to be slaves. I don't want to say that it is genetic, but it's the very least a teained behavior, where it doesn't work as well on Whites, rice niggers and beaners

>> No.56196816

>>56196764
>You don't own dollars, buddy.
I am also not "The people."
>You don't own dollars, buddy.
Just so were on the same page, when I am taxed that is an extraction of my resources which in turn is what funds plugging the damage caused by retarded hedgie behavior, comrade. Sound like those banks should have failed if the fed wanted the markets to be free.
>It's a duty
Wow, I feel so patriotic pissing my life away to watch a retard attempt to become obscenely rich by manipulating market forces.
>a club house fee so that you may use their tool.
The tool doesn't work, btw, So right now we're all just pissing money down the drain because the notion that we will get a grip on a runaway debt with a stagflated economy is fucking laughable.

>> No.56196834

>>56196781
Nigger you don't own dollars neither does the US. They're loaned to the US by the not so federal federal reserve. A group of 5 central banks. You and the rest of us are literally niggers of the central banks. Read some books. For starters try the creature from jekyll Island. It's around 500 pages so it might take you a while. After that try what has the government done with our money, after that read a history of central banking and the enslavement of mankind. It's your duty to seek knowledge and stop being a fucking dumb nigger. Ive given you a starting so start.

>> No.56196854

>>56196813
So you're repeating something someone said, that you don't know if they actually talked to and studied a significant portion of those people in a multicultural society, or if they have some motive to tell a particular story. Sounds like you fell for propaganda that wanted you to become racist.
>>56196816
Duty, as in a membership fee. Please go back to your Argentine version of 4chan.

>> No.56196860

>>56194554
>>56194573
https://www.usdebtclock.org/

>> No.56196862

>>56196834
Yeah I remember the start of the brainwash operation on the forum. Ross still sits in jail, and is paying for having been an experimental subject to a group of funny hat faggots.
Also, do you want the "government", the treasury to have power over monetary policy again? I suppose so. Fucking commutards

>> No.56196874

>>56196854
>Duty, as in a membership fee.
Unless you incorporate as an LLC then your membership fee is all of sudden very negotiable. wew lad, clever businessman win again.

>> No.56196881

>>56196874
You don't own those dollars. You're renting them. Wake up.

>> No.56196883

>>56196051
>unironically using fiscal to apply to any political “party” after 2008

Conservatism is a subversive element in the Republican Party and destroyed any semblance of fiscal responsibility by allowing Wilson and Nixon to do what they did. Switching to a debt based currency and using fiscal at any time unironically pins you as a retard.

>> No.56196896

>>56196128
>digital dollar
>economic lag


I fucking hate normies so fucking much.

>> No.56196906

>>56196881
That's besides the point. Regardless of how non-existent the money is it's all still the same shit. The people whose ancestors understood compounding interests have cut off an unhinged amount of the pie for themselves and are content watching the rest of us die for crumbs. This isn't something we fix with "le gods money"

>> No.56196911

>>56195032
It's priced in in the sense that all the "heritage Americans" are now living in the hills and own like 20 guns per capita.

>> No.56196913

>>56196896
>Cbdc commutardism
Capital optimization problem not solvable

>> No.56196922

>>56196883
The United States economy recovered better than anyone in the world during the pandemic, by taking on more debt.

>> No.56196926

>>56196652
Child porn probably if his tweet is anything to go by. By that metric I'm guessing the economy is saved.

>> No.56196927

>>56196862
I gave you a place to start to end your ignorance but you already have it all figured out. It's not about who controls what it's about ending usury, dismantling fractional reserve banking and ending central banks. You have not a single clue what any of that means. Have a good night.

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56196939

>>56194848
C O P E

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>> No.56196953

>>56196927
The problem was never fractional reserve. But you religious funny hat freaks believe in your models like fucking gospel. They are crap

>> No.56196959

>>56196926
>guys I swear it was russian trolls that hacked my computer and added this brand new 2TB HDD filled with child porn
>sir we didn't say how much was on there
>no it was Q Anon! everything is trump's fault!

>> No.56196960

>>56196906
Yeah, it's the Jews fault for your banking system collapsing Argentine, and not that it was founded by a bunch of greedy folk. It's in the name. Argentina is Latin for, Land of Silver.

>> No.56196977

>>56194573
Step number two is paying the Hispanics to fight a war in a worthless currency and thinking they won't torch the capital afterwards.
History doesn't "rhyme." It actually repeats word for word.

>> No.56196991

>>56196906
>>56196960
There are solutions.

>> No.56196993

>>56196960
I am not South American and it's hilarious for any American to take this road. Greed is good after all.

>> No.56197002

>>56196991
Yeah, stop with the siestas, and send some men to mine silver.

>> No.56197004

>>56196991
It's not buttcorns or gold or silver ends the fed, like the funny hat fags try to behaviorise people into commutardism

>> No.56197007

>>56196193
>Mad Max style end days
You have to be at least 18 years old to post here kid.

>> No.56197016

>>56196953
I belive in history and how it repeats itself. Again read and understand. I'm going to go fuck my wife now, bye.

>> No.56197033

>>56197016
Historicism? I'm by far not a fan of Popper, but that's one of the things I need to give him, historcism is retardation. Past performance is no indicator for future performance. One can't predict the future, no matter how much data one has. Human behavior can't be steered with predictable outcomes. But commutards have to likely make it a billion deads to finally get it

>> No.56197036

>>56194554
>inflation doesn't matter
True if you're an owner of appreciating assets.
False if you're a wagie.

>> No.56197049

>>56197036
Define appreciating asset

>> No.56197052

>>56196004
Most "rich" people are nigger rich on paper claims to someone else's claim, and so on, which at the very bottom is underpinned by wagies actually being able to spend money on bullshit. Most banks and insurance companies are already forced to play along and pay "tax" in the form of mandatory reserves of worthless, negative yield bonds. They had to make concessions to the consoomer plebs a hundred years ago, they will do so again.

>> No.56197079

>>56197052
If they do, than it's fucked. Then it's straight into world commutardism and likely really a billion deads under the brainfart that is Socialism

>> No.56197090

>>56197079
Yeah, I'm sure something from someone that spends 5 hours shitposting in a thread will come true.

>> No.56197097

>>56197090
You really don't see or grasp it, don't you. They gave you sovereignty and you pissed it away for plastic shit

>> No.56197133

>>56197097
He said on the machine built of plastic.

>> No.56197148

>>56197133
Deprogram yourself, only you can do it yourself

>> No.56197164

>>56197148
Said the "man" raised by machines on /pol/.

>> No.56197169

>>56197133
I thought this anon was a troll but he’s still at it. Damn you are peak midwit. Only way to deprogram you is with a bullet. Nigger

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56197201

>- money laying fallow does not bare fruit
Asked my grandfather today what he thought about cash gang his response was as follows

>> No.56197214

>>56195812
I believe security forces are getting much closer to their quotas now than pre-Covid. People who were high schoolers during Covid are increasingly putting off college instead joining the military and trades

>> No.56197219

>>56197164
Retard. Besides me liking the word nigger there is no overlap with the automated script on /pol/ just fucking their indexes

>> No.56197226

>>56197214
No. It has become worse. Way worse. The china flu scam did its part on disencouraging signing up

>> No.56197268

>>56195494
what people call "inflation" is prices being too damn high and wages failing to compensate.
it's exponentially worse every year.

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56197544

>>56197268
I find it easier to grasp inflation for regular people when looking at the CPI index directly rather than the yoy rate, which is a metric that people simply don't understand.

>> No.56197668

>>56197268
>>56197544
Its amazing how easily people fall for the inflation myth.

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>>56196960
>Yeah, it's the Jews fault for your banking system collapsing Argentine
It's not just jews but luciferians/ satanists. Yes I realize that sentence is redundant.

>> No.56197678

>>56194848
You forgot to wish everyone a happy Yom Kippur

>> No.56197860

>>56194998

You forget that the rich used the Aureus not denarius and the Aureus always remained well above 90% pure gold even when the other coins were debased to nothing.

>> No.56198410

>>56195225
Fiat kikes need to stringed up from the nearest tree

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56200158

>>56194573
>debasing their currency
DXY is rising so no not really. The USD is appreciating vs imports and only slightly deflating domestically. Literal nothing burger.

>> No.56200285

>>56194848
>We now know how to to grow the economy in a healthy and sustainable way with debt.
Why aren't we doing it then?

>> No.56200312

>>56195627
total debt payments includes payments from one government org to another so its not really a big deal.

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56200428

>>56194554
I guess it doesn't matter if you're going to be dead before to comes back to bite you, Dr. Keynes. What you shouldn't be concerned about it the raw number. However, what should be concerning is interest payments on the debt as a percentage of the federal budget. It will mean the total collapse of gibs which the boomers demanded and boomers believe is a right.

>> No.56200433

>>56194848
HAHAHAHAHAHA. This HAS to be satire.

Eat ze bugs.

>> No.56200436

>>56194554
it totally matters
but people think it means markets will crash
it really means stagflation
markets up in nominal value, down in real value.
But something has to go up in real value
(i think)

>> No.56200447

>>56195225
>Wow we can feed the world by simply fiddling with some numbers on a computer system, why didn't we think of this before!

Kys.

>> No.56200460

>>56200428
>However, what should be concerning is interest payments on the debt as a percentage of the federal budget
By 2053 they can lower rates again and most of those payments wont be there.

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>>56194848
>History had no concept of debasing currencies

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56200751

Most schizophrenic thread in years. Doomerism truly is the first step to NPC brain. Everyone wants to be the guy born right before the end. You're not as special as you think. Just another moron wasting his time with a "End is nigh" sign and a freshly shit pair or pants. "Anyone else getting late stage Rome vibes?" Holy reddit.

>> No.56200773

>>56194554
USdebt unironically is want prevents the world economy from collapsing ala the '30.

>> No.56201017

>>56194848
lmao
>this time it will be different.

>> No.56201020

new macro general ---
>>56200953

>> No.56201035

>>56200773
You’re right and you’re wrong at the same time. We will collapse under hyperinflation like all empires throughout history.

>> No.56201097

>>56200751
I dont think we're at the end but we also can't be at the beginning forever

>> No.56201120

>>56200751
>Most schizophrenic thread in years. Doomerism truly is the first step to NPC brain. Everyone wants to be the guy born right before the end. You're not as special as you think. Just another moron wasting his time with a "End is nigh" sign and a freshly shit pair or pants. "Anyone else getting late stage Rome vibes?" Holy reddit.
It's not the end but cycles do exist.
And we are at the end of a prosperity cycle.
Nobody thinks that the world is ending as you imply

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>>56194848
Thank you for you honest and kind explanation, Mr. Goldstein. I guess I was worried over nothing.

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>>56194554
Gud jaaaaaaaarb merca

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>>56200751
>Everyone wants to be the guy born right before the end.
retard

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>>56194554
That's one dollar per hour per US citizen.

>> No.56202195

>>56195221
We may be bankrupt but at least we got trips

>> No.56202222

>56194848
>it's different this time
kek, nice troll, 7/10

>> No.56204663

Amazing how a bunch of autists on a chinese cartoon site think they know more than actual economic experts.

>> No.56204863

>>56195627
They'll just print the interest payments too. I could give 2 shits about this debt. The system will collapse when we run out of resources.

>> No.56204883

>>56204663
Economics is a made up field. Same as psychiatry.

>> No.56204905

>>56204883
You should see a therapist.

>> No.56204920

>>56204883
This
Psychiatry however is rooted in something that has a slight benefit to society but economics is literally just fake data made up by statistics that are also fake because it's impossible to truly get a decent amount of REAL people (not paid shills or biased ones) to give their opinion or even data to ascertain real value. There's a reason China stopped putting out data

>> No.56205291

>>56195183
>first world country
>kebabs
???

>> No.56205471

>>56197214
The people joining the military now are useless third worlders doing make-work jobs created by the government purely to make them appear like they're productive members of society.
When the shit hits the fan, you will see what a joke they are.

>> No.56205512

>>56195516
Did he really post that?

I refuse to believe that anyone would post that.

Even Rabbi Krugman.

>> No.56205548

>>56195889
>When he hegemon fails, the result is dark age
What you call dark age sounds promising to me.
Imagine when people are too poor to be atomized nigger worshipping faggots. They might have to actually turn to god and family again. What horror.

>> No.56205570

>>56196154
He called you a retard because you're still thumping your chest about american exceptionalism when that is exactly what brought you to this point.
>muh democratic socialism
>our values
>muh blue pill is actually...b-b-based???
you deserve everything that is coming and worse.

>> No.56205586

>>56196281
The only reason competing tribes haven't violently murdered you and your family for your resources yet is because of the artificial state-mandated peace that the rich elite enforce so they can continue to profit off your labor. Expelling the rich actually leads to your death at the hands of your "american brother" nigger bball player you're just too stupid to realize it.

>> No.56205727

>>56205586
The naggers ain’t got enough artillery to take us out. They’ll still be bottom of the barrel in an anarchy scenario. In fact they’d be even worse off because every other civilized race of people would all team up to hunt down the niggers