/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56188008
work 5 jobs eat only rice,

Don't be an asshole....they can have beans too

>>56188028
Thanks Dave. Ideally I'm working towards something to change my situation that is sustainable though.

>>56188008
>lrn2code
this is probably your best option. You can work remotely from home too. If you have a decent portfolio then you'll get a good job without too much trouble, even if you have no degrees. A lot of people straight out of university can barely code at all so having a portfolio shows you're actually able to make stuff, and employers want people that can make stuff. You could try making your own SaaS in your spare time to make some money too. You could also try studying for an exam like this
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/credentials/certifications/exams/az-204
cloud developers are paid fairly well. It's somewhat easy to setup some small demo websites using various azure services to put on your portfolio too and a lot of the azure services have free tiers

>lrn2code
And compete with billions of dirt-wage pajeets?
Okay bro.
Get into facility piping inspection or something.

>>56188124
Thanks anon, issue is I'm not great at coding right now and am genuinely thinking I might be too low IQ for it, kek. Also what >>56188146 said

>>56188008
There's literally zero reason to complain about the job market. Pick a career and move to the city with the best job market for that career.

You have zero responsibilities/reasons to remain where you currently live. Unless you are already worth millions actively managing businesses full time, you have complete freedom of movement and freedom of opportunity. Do not waste it.

>>56188028
And beans

basically same boat. do you want to start a company together and make nfts or something

>>56188008
A two year gap doesn't matter. No job ever cared I had a 2-3 year gap. Only one placed asked and I just said I did freelance and side work. Got hired anyway. Idk about Canada but in the US I feel there's willingness to hire 30 somethings with some college for jobs in demand especially trades. I was a hiring manager for a while. I'd rather hire the respectable person in their 30s with some college and a decent work history or body of projects, rather than the young 20 person straight out of college. A few years gap doesn't alarm me if you seem like a solid individual. Just get into something, you'll be fine.

>>56188421
>you have complete freedom of movement and freedom of opportunity. Do not waste it.
Fair point. I think I have a lot of anxiety around making the "wrong" choice again though since I feel like I already did that when I went to college and worked jobs I hated for a few years after that. Like how do I pick something that isn't gonna make me wanna start over again you know?

>>56188459
kek sure anon, pitch me

>>56188482
Cool to see some optimism, thanks anon. Been considering a trade for sure.

>>56188675
>I think I have a lot of anxiety around making the "wrong" choice again
>again
your problem is you haven't really made ANY choices. You've been existing very passively, avoiding hard or high risk decisions and essentially defaulting to the easiest option. The upside to this is that now you're pretty close to rock bottom, you're free to try out all kinds of silly shit with very low downside and high upside. But to take advantage of this, you have to practice doing literally the opposite of what your neurotic brain says. When it says 'it won't work' that's your clue to keep going or try harder. If it says 'wait', don't. This also applies when you get part way through something and feel like giving up again.
If physical work is interesting to you, oil rig workers, miners, sanitation workers can all get jobs with diabetes but you'll need to prove you've got good control.
Some helpful courses and tickets for those types of job can be obtained for <$5k. I would consider dipping into your savings for it.
lrn2code is not the greatest idea for you since it sounds like you aren't cut out for that kind of complex self-motivated work (at least not yet).
Another possibility is basic clerical and administrative work, which you can find by plumbing family connections - tell your parents you want a job and they will go into a boomer frenzy begging friends of friends to give you a chance.
Your goal at this stage should be to work up to some kind of mid level supervisory role in a low complexity physical job, where being a 4chan sperg is moderately beneficial. Sterilization services or operational services in a hospital come to mind.

>>56188749
Fair points anon. Good info, I appreciate it.

>>56188008
hang in there anon. just some advice in case you didn't already learn, don't just drop out of society for 2 years. this can be a death sentence to employers. love you and keep going.

>>56188482
If you're still around, what industry were you a hiring manager for?

>>56190388
Thanks anon, I think lesson learned...now I just have to jump the hurdle of reintegrating myself into wagiedom. Love you too buddy.

>>56188008
Chase your dreams. If you fail then at least you tried.

>>56188008
anon make sure you really enjoy coding before you really invest into it. The market is absolutely brutal for tech right now, even for people who have a degree, and frankly I don't know how someone with no experience or degree can get into the industry right now unless you have connections. No, doing a bootcamp and making some shitty project will not be enough unless you are a woman or some other group which is given huge preference in tech (yes, discrimination against men is a very real thing in this market on top of how difficult it is to break in). If you truly love programming you can maybe make it because you won't give up no matter how tough it gets, but I think its important to warn you.

>>56190706
Arts/media

>>56188008
Cut down on housing costs as much as possible. Rich is mainly about living on the margins. Try to get some desk job you can work remote, and locate somewhere dirt cheap. invest steadily into index funds and watch your problems disappear over time.

Can I interest you in a well paid career in the choo choo train industry?

>>56188008
Just ask your dad to buy you a house.

Find a blue collar job for example HVAC company with an owner close to retirement. Ask them if they can train you and if you can buy the business from them when they are ready to retire. Do that and make bank. College is overrated.