/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56186309
Well done, OP

NATGAS starts moving again in TEN MINOOTS.

>early thread

FIRST FOR KIKE MARKET MANIPULATION

>GUTS tour
>i'll never be up in hers

I'm sorry I misplaced faith within goyim and used others to my own benefit

>futures

L'chaim fellow Jews! Seeing as how our most important holiday is soon to begin, I thought I'd celebrate by investing in that ones stock that we all agreed to invest in! ...Oy vey! I forgot what stock that was. I'm such a schlemiel! Can one of my fellow chosen remind me of that stock again?

rebound or freefall?

>>56186369
I am actually part jewish ethnically but my whole family was raised protestant. I've thought about going to a synagogue for investing tips and for having sex with jewish girls but I don't want to go to hell.

>>56186369
oil and gas exploration and production stocks

I'm sorry I used time seeking copulation with married women while my time was better spent with my own loved ones.

I've never traded any stocks before should I just copy Nancy pelosi?

I'm sorry I said Hitler had it right when he was telling the Jews "work will set you free".

>>56186369
UUUU

I'm sorry some of us can't will never understand.

I too, mostly typed antisemitic jokes in jest.

pre-election seasonality demands strong selling into the end of september

>>56186388
He did though

I'm sorry I use ignorance as an advantage and make people worse off in exchanges of anything.

>futes

>>56186412
I don't think I'm done. There's a shit load of bad shit I did here.

>>56186430
All this time I didn't think you actually believed in God.

I'm sorry about the niggers. They're not all my fault, but I'm sorry there's still niggers.

on a scale of sus to bussin how back are we?

>>56186388
Baggie you're a piece of shit but holy get look at that
>BASED EIGHTY-EIGHT

>>56186430
the worst one was coming back after saying you were leaving. Now shut the fuck up I have energy bags to shill, and I need the market to hold everything together long enough in order to deliver on a very excellent earnings this quarter.

>>56186445
futures are str8 cap suss fr

Are we partaking in some Jewish ritual with baggot rn? Is this like confession?

WHO'S BUYING

>>56186460
Telling us without telling us, followed by pilpul

By the way, short pilpul (ticker PYPL)

>>56186470

>>56186458
but they be bussin on god tho

>>56186470

>>56186478
>followed by pilpul
Kek you're alright

>>56186497

>>56186510

>>56186430
You dying or somethin?

if i have 158k and i owe 145k on my house should i just pay it off?
Ill save like 200,000 dollars in interest over the next decades

.

>>56186309
Anons I will become one of the biggest musicians of all time. And I will shout out /smg/ when I'm on top.(p.s I fucking hate rocker)

>>56186601
i am up so much its not even funny, i am going to make it

>>56186611
don't do it man if people find out you're the hacker known as 4chan your career's finished

>>56186617
Testing

>>56186598
yes if you have income why not

Monday:
18th sep flat
11th sep pump
4th sep dump
28th aug pump
21th aug pump
14th aug pump
7th aug pump
31th july pump
24th jump pump

what will this week be?

>>56186630
don't use me for your little schemes
i have a foreskin

seems like we gonna rebound tomorrow instead of dropping further

>>56186601
Double top with 2011. The 20 year TA says dump imminent.

>>56186448
For the record, I said if I got dubz I would leave that thread forever, which I did. I hope you live a long life and have to witness everyone you care about go before you do. Then when you're too old to clean yourself I hope your nursing staff beats the shit out of you for the fuck of it.

buy in october, the chicks will roll over

>>56186601

>>56186385
You'll be too far behind where she put her trades, resulting in solely pumping her bags.

>>56186644
Not how double tops work.
This is more of a cup and handle forming. There's also that weird inverse arc thing the Northstar charts guy does.

>>56186385
>>56186656
i think inversing cramer is actually viable

>>56186598
You pay a penalty if you pay off your mortgage too early. Make sure you factor that in there.

>>56186664
It's clearly a double top. Ignore at your own risk.

>>56186673
pretty sure there is no penalty for mine, its a conventional fixed loan in USA

>>56186679
Double tops means new highs. It's just testing the limits before new limits are established

Why do companies use different terminology for their accounting? They all have similar entries but there is no universalized naming system. I want to make generic entries and to not have specialty entries. I find it tiresome to type out each companies 10Qs and 10Ks and fiddle with them to fit my existing generic categories.
Looking for suggestions or solutions, I know people like to use API's but I am not interested in paying for a service and I am not skilled enough to write my own code to pull information from data sources.

>>56186679
Not. There hasn't been enough of a drop from 2011 to qualify it as a double top. Uranium is going to be a shit play for a long time, at least for the next 5 years, I'll buy once it hits like $2. Ignore me if you want. You'll be joining the perma coping faggots of /cmmg/ soon.

>>56186611
I won't see it unless they post it here because I don't pay any attention to faggot music. Sober up, son.
>>56186642
>seems like

>>56186598
This depends entirely on what your interest rate for your mortgage is.
2%? Fuck no the bank is paying you to live there
7%? Absolutely.

>>56186695
Doesn't edgar have a free API that normalizes some of those in XML format? I could never get it to work but I remember them having an API that had some values normalized, at least for the overview fields.

>>56186644
that aint happening lmao

>>56186695
I dunno why do different people have different color skin and use different languages when it's obvious certain ones are better than others.

>>56186695
Sounds like an LLM application.

>>56186644
Its a massive generational cup and handle forming

>>56186743
>generational
Total zoomer death.

>>56186731
I sometimes think how dumb they have to be to invent languages besides English. They literally made up the wrong words for *everything*.

and my love language is acts of violence

Happy Yom Kippur

>>56186720
I was unaware that they did; just looked it up and it seems they have some sort of API. I am retarded when it comes to that stuff though. Has anyone had experience using it?
I will absolutely look into it, thanks anon.
>>56186731
Alright well how do you convert those races and languages into a serviceable and organized matter to interpret their information?
>>56186741
>Sounds like an LLM application
That went over my head.

>futures
Glad I bought calls

>>56186752
You probably don't even understand what reconciliation means.

>>56186759
You don't, You let then create opportunities. If they're moving you tax them, if they're still moving you regulate them, then if they stop moving you subsidize them.

>futures
Were the Jew holiday posters correct?!

>>56186786
Where is my melt-up?

Delusional futures being green is perfect

>>56186759
>>Sounds like an LLM application
>That went over my head.
It was a very fancy way to say "send it to chatgpt."

>>56186792
Soon™

>>56186767
I know your mom's muff seeks reconciliation with my dick but I ain't granting it.

>>56186759
I tried to use it one time but had a hard time figuring it out. The property names they expose are very cludgy and it is in XML, which I have never worked with. Since you have multiple companys' 10Ks you could probably union the formats to figure out which ones were common, then write your scraper to do the rest. I only needed 1 company's 10Ks over several years so I didn't bother learning which fields were normalized.

>>56186369
PYPL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2tDg5z0cLA

>>56186741
No, it sounds like a regular old data normalization application.

>>56186814
I watched and he said September

>>56186806
Jews aren't allowed to trade tomorrow, if they're adherent to their religion. So exit liquidity probably going to well up tomorrow while Mosche gets his sell orders loaded up tomorrow night for Tuesday morning.

>>56186821
>write your scraper to do the rest
I have tried to follow countless YouTube tutorials for scrapers and not one has actually worked for me.

>>56186834
Isn't Shemitah over tho?

>>56186759
>>56186821
>>56186841
Use selenium. Its ez.
https://selenium-python.readthedocs.io/index.html

>>56186844
The giga dump in the 1980s happened in the year following a crabbing shemitah

>>56186850
>in the year following a crabbing shemitah
It's coming isn't it?

I have returned from auto store with discount 0w-16 synthetic oil in hand. Did you know my care is a very special snowflake that actually calls for 0w-8? It is. I call stealership I say nobody but nobody sells no water thin 0w8 nowhere and no how. Do (you) even sell it? They say no it's so new even their service department doesn't have it yet. I say manual say I can use 0w-16 so if I do that are you going to be niggers about it if for some reason I need to make powertrain warranty claim. They say no it's cool. Okay cool we're doing slightly more common oil.
I also went Loblaw. Too early in afternoon for a Sunday. It was jam packed with all the thirdies Trudeau has imported. I was nearly hit by a shopping cart thrice in the 15 minutes I was in the store. I think you should short Loblaws.

>>56186731
I unironically think white non jews are smarter and more creative but jews are better at noticing talent.

>APPLE TO SCALE UP INDIA PRODUCTION OVER FIVEFOLD TO $40B
SIRS

>>56186844
>>56186850
>>56186862
>pic rel
Is what tomorrow's sp500 will look like, and I'm buying a certain VIX futures ETF's call contracts between 2-3pm
Do with this information what you will.

>>56186869
Appl is literally going to be the leader in the correction that's coming. Buy the top I guess so that you can sell the bottom.

>>56186869
Theyre pulling out of china and into india I guess.

>>56186369
Gold, silver, green, and icebergs. Land, sea, neutral, and evil. You've got a 360 deal on the human population because you worship Satan, who is the god of this Earth.

Resources, schlioehmel. Commodities.

Water.

>>56186880
1000%. their most recent phone was pathetic and I say that as an applefag.

>>56186841
python
>import requests
>data = requests.get(https://sneed.feed)
Then descend into whatever shape data is. That'ss be $800 in consultation fees + tip.

>>56186869
DO THE NEEDFUL

KEKLMAOLOL

>>56186878
It ain't coming tomorrow anon, we need a strong "relief" rally to pull reel the cattle in.

>>56186880
>Appl
APLL

>>56186895
Did you even look at what I drew? It's a bullish day that has the last candle red despite closing bigly green.

>>56186897
アップルがシャツを開けたんだ。

>>56186901
We were talking about a 1980s style giga dump, and you're trying to predict it off a single intraday candle?

>>56186869
Try harder, two trillion company with no growth

>>56186829
Yeah, I got no idea; I'm just an internet retard. Wouldn't it be funny if they gave us a relief rally though Christmas and sent us into the shadow realm next January?

>>56186309
You guys know what costco hotdogs are made with right?

>>56186920
No retard. I'm saying tomorrow is green, could be a good day to open shorts if you're somebody like me that expects dumping to continue

>>56186924
>the quarter before they release their new phone
bro this happens every year are you retarded

Assuming recession, do we go past last years lows? I will inverse majority opinion.

>>56186944
Its three quarters. Learn to read, idiot

>>56186947
Don't take MY word for it, anon. Listen to this stunning and brave, intelligent and wise, beautiful young lady
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys2CKcIa4Tw

>>56186717
it's 7%

>>56186926
>I'm just an internet retard. Wouldn't it be funny if they gave us a relief rally though Christmas and sent us into the shadow realm next January
In his latest interview he said relief on Christmas then dump, i was just messing with you anon, he called it initially for September but there is still a tremendously high chance he is right.
>>56186933
I don't there will be any significant dump without a relief rally.
>>56186979
That video tells me there is agood chence we're pumping and reeling all the cattle in

another new week
for the market to fly
but i also hope
that i finally die

>>56186996

>>56187002
lmao I didn't even watch the video and that's hilarious my joking around lined up with whatever he said. Maybe he WAS right, just early.

>>56187012
hey i only owe 140someK now smaller houses are like 350k plus around here

>>56186847
I will give it a try anon thank you.
>>56186890
Thank you for that, I tip 50% for the sneed n feed. It is a subtle joke.

>>56186927
Nigger meat?

Onions Brown is not people

>>56186927
Some kind of alien creature's young like that one Futurama episode?

>>56187006
this one's funny. most of them are lol

>>56187023
Im more excited for what comes afterwards.

>>56187063
>>56187023
>>56186829
>>56186786
Context

>>56187071
Old dude who apparently worked on Wall Street 9001 years ago makes emphatic predictions that the stock market will "melt up" before a catastrophic blowout, becomes a meme.

>>56187085
>makes emphatic predictions that the stock market will "melt up" before a catastrophic blowout
That guy Traveling Trader also says that.

Which course should I start with in that khan academy link? In terms of learning about investing.

>>56186864
>I think you should short Loblaws.
Based on your post, I think I should short Canada in general

>>56187113
based on everything, i think i should short the entire west

>>56187113
>I think I should short Canada in general
Yes that's a wise choice. It's all a shambles now. Approaching frozen India at this point.

>>56187124
Imagine being canada and getting mogged by india of all shit places.

>>56187113
>I should short Canada
Canadian stocks are mainly commodity-related, I wouldn't do that

>>56187031
you can use the selenium extension for chrome to basically write the script and then just execute it. jsut visit the page and find the element. gl anon
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/selenium-ide/mooikfkahbdckldjjndioackbalphokd

>>56187085
Thx for sauce

my shitty TA I drew 20 minutes ago is holding up exactly

Hmm looked up my city on wekipedia. Population is over 28,000 w/75% white and more females than males.

>Poland has approved building the country's first nuclear power plant
Long the WIG20, Poland superpower by 2025

TLT buyers what's your thesis?

I'll say it again
Green tomorrow with bearish, yet very green on the day, close.
Buy your weekly expiry puts late in the afternoon for good gainz

>>56187096
Cmon don't horde your knowledge lads

>>56187202
Now that we're approaching 1 year from the absolute bottom in SPY, nice to see that everyone can start breaking out their 1Y historical perf charts.

I think I'm going to SHAK for dinner tonight
Is this a good investment?

>>56187213
To ejaculate onto that blue haired bitches tits.

>>56187236
It's a bit overpriced, both the stock and the meals.

>>56187236
their burgers are hella expensive right? i remember not being impressed at all last time i went there years ago.

>>56187239

>>56187236
FUCK NO. Their hamburger has shrunk from 2nd finger joint sized to barely palm sized while going up in price.

>>56187085
>>56186786
Better sell before Yom Kippur

>>56186806
Delusional futures already coming down

>>56187257
WTF I THOUGHT JEW TOLD ME TO SELL ROSH HASHANA AND BUY YOM KIPPUR.

Mr. Mott Capital please pull up the historic stock market PNL for each yom kippur dating back 30 years. Thank you.

>>56187213
theyre going to raise rates one more time and then theyll probably be done. then you enjoy the capital appreciation and dividends as they slowly cut rates the next few years.

but I'm not buying TLT

>>56187247
>>56187251
>>56187255
But dammit I spent a whole bunch of time on this damn anime girl .jpg

>>56187268
>he didn’t do his due diligence

I started DCAing my paycheck into an index ETF since June since I recognize now I have just been unlucky with the covid bull market, now just underperforming SPY

but that (global equity excludng shitty canada) index ETF is -2% now what teh fuck

>>56187316
Given the watermarks, I assumed it was just some AI shit.

>>56187334
That was me being lazy. I actually went back and fixed the watermarks.

>>56187320
Sukkot deez nuts lmaooo. Also, is Sukkot the holiday about the limes?

>just.jpg

>>56187358
>Sukkot is a seven-day holiday that asks us to think about the idea of “home” and what it means to have a roof over our heads.
Ends October 6th so they're saying wait to get back in until then.

>>56187399
What chart is that?

>>56187407
NQ

bullish

>>56187409
I see

>>56187404
Zillowtards about to get heemed

>>56187432
luxury overnight charging stations with gate access and 24/7 security when

>>56187404
I've been watching max pain calculations for a few of my holds and it looks like 10/6 could be recovery. wtf man.

>Nikkei going down
It starts.

>>56187467
Bond yields are suddenly blowing out again, too

>>56187358
is this a happy merchant?

>>56187461
Shalom, anon

>>56187404
Government shutdown and re-up dates confirmed

>>56187475
A what?

>>56186309
The amount of time I've spent in the last 3 to 5y trying to find a way to consistently beat the market just to end up not doing better than an index fund would have allowed me to perfect my Python and business Intelligence skills and now I could have a higher income and higher savings.

I did learn a lot though, but not in an efficient way.

welcome to the first day of the rest of your life

>>56187482
Thats just jew york.

>>56187488
It's just a Google Earth Pro render of Washington, D.C. is all.

>>56187483
I learned that lesson too. Thankfully it only cost me one year. Index gang is nice, with a little extra weight to sectors you enjoy.

long terrestrial television
just watched godzilla vs mechagodzilla and now there's a buffy marathon

>>56187509
I have NXST, is that the same thing?

If the Russell drops 3%, the average small cap stock or index buyer would have a negative return over a 5 year holding period.
Buying the riskiest stocks have significantly underperformed the safest assets such as treasuries and corporate bonds.

bros i don't wanna work tomorrow

>>56187454
Looked up how much it would cost to have the same house price at these rates.
My Mortgage is $2,500 a month and I paid 5% down.
Same price and 5% down at these rates is $4,500 lmao.
If the housing market crashes I will just buy a condo or something and rent it out.

A single stock but there are hundreds like this chart. A 2018 buyer had the chance to sell at almost a 10x, now trading at 2018 lows.
Turns out that buying and/or holding low-cap growth at utterly insane multiples is not a winning strategy

>>56187520
Me either
Gonna call in sick with the cold
That’s still a thing right

>>56187531
Thats every "zombie tech" company out there, TWLO SPLK NET SQ list goes on.

>>56187506
I'm factoring in my CFA which I don't regret but I did waste a lot of time that would have been better allocated with other goals.

>>56187528
Where the fuck do you live
I don’t think I would ever feel comfortable with just 5% down, that’s so much every year in interest

>>56187528
Housing prices will never crash.

>>56187546
PNW, I have a 3% interest on the mortgage. I paid as little down as possible.

>>56187540
Most of those companies you listed are mid to large cap and have positive earnings. While they did underperform, they're mostly not as bad as these smaller cap, 0 profit tech stocks.
SPLK recently got bought out for a massive premium.

Black Monday tomorrow?

>>56187554
There are a ton more houses on the market than last year.

>>56187531
Imagine paying $300/share for a company with an EPS of like 50 cents lmao

>>56187571
>>56187554
the airbnb stock hasnt even hit the market yet.

>>56187520
Same here

Think I might just quit

>>56187555
That’s how you do it. Get that interest, goy.

>>56187528
I’m specifically talking about people who bought over 6% without prices having corrected at all. If you’ve been there a few years you might only get a haircut

>>56187585
>chinlet blocks your path

>>56186644
>>56186679
Buying the Dip ?

>>56186702

So parking the money in URANIUM for
10 years is the play ?

Do the existing and up coming reactors have
Enough to generate power for the next ten years ?

>>56187587
rates are almost 8% Schlomo my mortgage is less than half the price of the historical average lol. My parents refinanced at 2.5% ever heard of real yield / credit spread?

>>56187571
Peugeot Sound is breddy cool desu senpai. Shame about the Sodom/Gomorrah thing though.

>>56187520
Currently getting 4.8% in my savings. Tempted to live in my car and make it work but my job is pretty chill...

>>56187520
i took tomorrw off since im picking up my new car :)

>>56187590
Prices would have to fall roughly 40% for the mortgage to be the same. People buying a house now at 8% and still elevated prices are retards. Simple as

>>56187609
None of that on the Kitsap Peninsula, it is comfy here.

>>56187483
Boglechads...... We tried to save you

i got so many charts to short. there's still so much stuff that needs to sell off. everyone's only paying attention to nvda and tsla

>>56187483
The markets are lower than two years ago, you retarded index fund shill.
You would literally have done better doing absolutely nothing, than investing in an index fund.

Holy shit, will you people ever stop shitting up this board?

>>56187638
quarter mill in VOO / VT / VUG.
I am not retired yet, but in 5 years maybe if I work hard towards my goals.

>>56187660
And then account for inflation and you literally lost 20% in the last 2 years in your stupid index fund

>>56187600
historical average on principal was at a lot, lot less though. like less than 100k in most cases.

>>56187578
Ok, lets consider the possibility that a huge wave of airbnb forced selling could actually crash it. Problem is most of those airbnbs are less stressed than you'd think considering the bulk of transactions were done at much lower rates. The only real stress comes from a few flippers who bought the top and had no interest in longterm ownership.
I think the much more likely outcome is that any crash is shallow and short lived. Modern policy is to print stimulus like mad at the first whiff of any real crisis. A devaluing currency is always positive for fixed currency borrowers.

I foresee a silent crash, where prices stagnate for the next decade while incomes see a relative rebound. There is a clear shortage, but it is also more economic to build right now vs the past decade. Even the rise of airbnbs was itself covering for a shortage of hotels. Part of that is due to hotels switching from maxing occupancy to maxing RevPAR. Hard to see this trend magically shifting back.

Regional trends may vary. Some of the remote work bubbles could get fucked.

>>56187683
Same thing happened in the 1970s.
Inflation is poison for stock markets
This hasnt sunk in yet

>>56187703
Airbnb inflated up the market to begin with though. so if you take away the entire possiblity of that income then the whole market takes a haircut, in my opinion.

>>56187660
>>56187683
I have been investing since 2014, only the past 5 years have been higher income though.

Please, market! Hold out a little longer. I got to wait until January to liquidate everything to avoid the next tax bracket!

>>56187718
I used to think like this. I got fucked and grew out of it.

>>56187559
No.
There’s no economic data tomorrow do one last crab day or bull trap before black Tuesday when we get housing data which will confirm my hypothesis from this string of replies
>>56187320
>>56187404
>>56187454

>>56187711
Spy in that timeline

>>56187712
>if you take away the entire possiblity of that income then the whole market takes a haircut
Ok, but why would a rental that is cashflow positive become less cashflowing while rental prices across the country are still flat/rising?

What is your thesis for why everyone suddenly stops using airbnb?

>>56187740
I posted the S&P 500. Inflation adjusted

>>56187740
so it took 8 years to get back to the highs of the crash?
>>56187746
there's a lot of cities starting to ban short term airbnb rentals. and thats where all the money is made. just run a quick google search. couple that with the overall economic situation, student loan payments starting up, people are going to start handing keys back over to the banks.

>>56187746
>>56187712
>>56187701
the rate of the mortgage is the most important thing, if someone bought an airbnb in 2019 and rents it out for around $3k a month, and their mortgage is $2K they are still making a profit and have no need to sell. Watch the price of rents in the market. that is the most important thing, not principal depreciation.

>>56187760
essentially a crab decade, a good reason to allocate to bonds at these rates.

>>56187483
>didn't just put 100% sperg power into BOIL/KOLD and learning the Way of NATGAS

>>56187762
>100k at 8%
>700k at 8%
ill take the former. and there was a big price difference in a lot of houses bought up from 2019 to now. I got in around late 2020 so i'm insulated but there is a lot of room for a crash. and there are a lot of people who overextended themselves.

>>56187784
sorry meant 700k at 3%. but you get the idea.

>>56187737
I want to hug and kiss all 9f them

>>56187784
I am in the same boat look at my previous replies

>>56187801
they don’t exist anon

>>56187760
>there's a lot of cities starting to ban short term airbnb rentals.
Primarily in cities with the worst housing shortages, cities where land is the limiting factor. Those airbnbs will be converted into longer term rentals to monetize their discounted mortgages. Real winners there are the hotels.

>couple that with the overall economic situation, student loan payments starting up,
Zoomers are an incremental demand source, as they largely do not currently own homes. More stress on them is arguably bullish since the political answer is 1st time homeowner downpayment assistance, loan forgiveness, min wage increases, etc. All inflationary options. Inflation is bullish for asset prices, nominally.
Meanwhile the boomers keep raking in the cash, vacation at will, entitlements adjust to inflation, and the federal deficit balloons higher.
This widening economic divide could be a long term societal threat, but does not seem like an immediate concern - at least not for asset prices.

>>56187714
>using log charts to misconstrue the scale

>>56187819
>More stress on them is arguably bullish
The eternal boomer everyone.
>Dying nation
>No reason for men to participate now that the women are tattooed orcs who whore themselves out regardless
>No room anywhere
>"yeah if we make things harder we can extract more value"
See also: The fall of Rome, the English civil war, etc.

>>56187819
>>56187804
the only thing preventing the housing market downturn is available volume. its not going to take much for that to change, that was my point in bringing up the airbnb thing. nevermind the change in the economy, a change in the pattern of rental economy, really anything.

>>56187857
you know that is how you should measure returns right anon?

>>56187864
>English Civil War
Quick rundown? Wars of the Roses were cooler.

>>56186888
I think Apple NPC's are starting to wake up. They used to consoom they latest from them but now they seem to be waiting till their phone becomes shitty or something revolutionary happens. Good.
>>56187236
Did you recommend CAVA a couple of weeks ago?
>>56187625
What'd you get?
>>56187924
>A call center in Toronto
Kek. Did Indians and Canadians actually fight on Twitter? I wouldn't be surprised, Indians are becoming annoying online because their are so many of them.

>>56187953
>Indians are becoming annoying
>becoming annoying
>becoming
bitch where the fuck have you been for 15 years

Its actually interesting, how everthing is falling apart and markets slowly start to realize it

>>56187963
>everthing is falling apart
holy fuck at the newfags to life

>>56187737
my wives

>>56187609
Peugeot Sound is awful to live in. It's miserable here.
>>56187953
>Did you recommend CAVA a couple of weeks ago?
No that was some other guy borrowing my technique

>>56187542
I'm thinking about doing my CFA but at the same time not sure if it's worth it.

>>56187874
My main point is that higher rates disincentive sellers with lower-rate mortgages from selling because that rate differential is effectively an asset for them. There would have to be extreme pessimism for them to decide to sell. Homeowners are trapped in golden handcuffs.
New builds seem like a bigger threat, but so far they only seem to help cap pricing from further rises. There is still an imbalance of demand that will take time to meet.

>>56187864
> could be a long term societal threat
Yeah, some things suck right now for the young. In some sense, things have gotten worse over time. Yet for the most part they still find jobs, start families, go to work, live a normal life.
Things would have to get even worse and stay worse, and the young would have to collectively choose to willfully stop working. You can see that happening a bit in China now. For us, it's at least 5-10 years away, and that's only one possible future depending on certain factors.

Just to be clear: Flat housing prices against elevated inflation is a loss in real wealth. Just not a nominal loss.
I'm not seeing much reason for an impending collapse, but that doesn't mean you should rush out and buy a house today. Fairly likely it's better to rent, unless you already hold the 3% mortgage.

>>56187963
you must be 18 to post here

>>56187969
Do you have any idea how fractured congress is? McCarthy has the most vulnerable majority in 100 years. The republican hardliners have him by the balls. There is no business as usual

>>56188001
See: >>56188005

You think money grows on trees, dumbass?

>>56188005
ooooohnooooos
noot a frooctured coongress!
>>56188001
fuckin' THIS

It's a uniparty bro chill. None of that shit matter in comparison to how fucked the debt market has been.

>>56187997
right, I was never talking about the reasonable people like myself who took out a modest loan compared to their income. I have 250k on my loan at 3.25%, thats nothing. But there are people with 600k, million dollar loans or even multiple ones. even at a small %, its generational debt that they didnt sign up for - they ultimately thought it would never crash, they could cash in some easy money sell out in a couple years, etc. The average housing downturn is something like 5 years, but this is by all means a much bigger financial crisis.

Wait I thought Yom Kippur ended on Oct 14th, with the new moon. Looks like it's just Oct 6-7th is the last fucky wucky

>>56187969
>>56188001
>>56188021
>>56188022
Very easy to spot the shills here.
Thanks

nigger

i'd like to short XLE again for some quick gains, but i feel like this third time i'll get heemed and lose my current gains from the previous 2 short trades. maybe i'll just sit on some cash until it drops to like $85 and then slowly buy in. maybe i'll buy some calls too

>>56188030

>>56188044
My XOM just spiked up in the HOOD 24hr market.

Doomers and shills unironically trying to spread Government shutdown FUD. Lmao, they literally pretend to shut it down every year, and almost never do.

>>56187963
>>56188030
Bond yields are continuing to blow out

>>56188064
its happened twice in the last 5 years, that isnt 'never'

>>56188064
The government spends 100% of its money on social security, medicare, defense and debt payments
Everything else is borrowed. Currently at 2 trillion new debt this year alone

Kek

>>56188082
The psychotic orange guy who never compromises isn't in office anymore.
>>56188088
Debt is based, read Krugman.

>>56188162
you have no idea how that whole thing works do you?

>>56188169
The government pretends it will shutdown or not raise debt ceiling and then compromises at the last minute? It works the same way every single time.

>>56188198
right, and the president really has nothing to do with it. and even if he did, the bad orange man is still the head honcho in the republican party.

>>56188064

There are 2 elite factions fighting here, one of which is the bond baggies (i.e. billionaires and commercial banks) who currently have a raging hardon at the idea of gutting social security medicare/medicaid in order to save their bond folios. They are just fine with a depression as a result of this. Just means their folios will do great. These are the guys pushing JPow towards hawkishness, and whispering in the GOP's ear to force the issue of entitlement reform.

>>56188233
Total Bondholder Death

>>56188030
But why.

RAPTURE by Blondie describes the upcoming news cycle. Do with this what you will.

we either go hyperinflation or great depression at this point.

>Hollywood studios reach tentative deal with striking writers

what a pathetic ass strike that was, didn't even last a year

>>56188268
why not both?

>The S&P 500 has not had a Quarterly Bearish Crossover in the Price Momentum Oscillator since 2007. The time before that was 2001

>>56188277
both is the more likely answer actually. I was just saying it to the guy who thinks there's '2 elite factions' in here and not just a bunch of people trying to avoid the meat grinder.

>>56188261
Tell do tell me like I'm hypnotized

>>56187960
Kek. The only reason I said that is because they seem to all have internet now and are more prevalent in online spaces.
>>56187986
CAVA has been doing shit ever since he brought it up

>>56188268
>>56188277
If hyperinflation is in the cards, you want commodities in your portfolio, STAT. Commodities came out ahead during the great depression.

>>56188270
Yay, now I have more propaganda to consoom! I can't wait to see the new capeshit and Star Wars dogshit! Aren't they just the best? These writers are so creative!

>>56188341
uranium kings know

>>56188233
I'm all for it. Some legit disabled dude or some fuck who's put in his time working hey by all means give them the medical/s.s payments. The fucks who scam the system however should get the boot (the dude who claims to be "disabled" yet is seen doing a roofing job like its nothing type)

Also, interesting comparison to the graph

>pic related

>>56188254

Yeah that's probably what will end up happening. They're gonna realize it's not politically viable sooner or later but for now they're still in the cope stage where they can't accept the 40 year bond bullrun is over.

>>56188289

Your binary literally described the 2 factions' motivations. One is more concerned to avoid inflation (muh bonds), the other is trying to avoid depression (muh populism). In reality, probably we will get a bit of both and nobody wins. Because we're fucking broke and there's no avoiding the resulting pain.

>>56188341
best commodities to invest in during financial ruin?

>>56188380
So another epic sale event is on the way then? YAY!! KO shares come to me oh cheap as hell!@!

>>56188391
no, the reality is that boomers sold us out long ago and the money is gone. we've just been playing musical chairs with the money and they are running out of chairs. so we get hyperinflation AND great depression.

Uneasy green today, then downward crab rest of the week.

>>56188380
>interesting comparison
no it isn't, stop following schizos on twitter

>>56188380
The size and length of that red candle turns me on

>futures

>>56188411

I think (fear of) populism is the stronger force and we mostly get inflation because that's just usually how it goes with government debt. If people's groceries and rent keep going up more than wages they're pissed, but if they're straight unemployed they'll show up at politician's houses with pitchforks.

IMO the politically connected bond baggies just need an exit pump so they can dump first and flee into inflation hedges. If they get into position they'll be more content with the Fed letting the printer rip.

>>56188391
Bondholders are lazy faggots too "hurr durr I need consistent safe returns because I'm too lazy to turn off my 1998 Dell computer once a decade and buy/sell SPY"

>Futures
Fuck you bobo

>>56188463
*turn on

>>56187330
>>56187358
>>56187399


faggot

>>56188392
equities related to oil, uranium, gold, silver, platinum

there's also the futures market, but you need deeper pockets to play that effectively... take a look at sugar futures for example, it's been on quite the tear the last few years, a prelude for what will happen in precious metals soon

>>56188426
Denial ain't a river in egypt

>Americans are defaulting on their credit cards and auto loans at levels not seen since the financial crisis, per NYP

>>56188476
Pbtid kike

>>56188484
>Denial ain't a river in egypt
I had a keychain of that I got at the birth home of Mark Twain decades ago.

>>56188484
>Denial ain't a river in egypt
It's also a river in Sudan and Uganda and possibly Kenya or Tanzania depending on you believe

>>56188508
And in fact the actual Twain quote was "ain't just a river in Egypt" so he had that shit covered.

>>56188484
You fucked up the quote retard

>futures

>>56188392
Lean hogs, braphogs, oats

Can we finish this thread off and bake a new one already? I want to make more >futures posts

>>56188703
no

Is it fucking OVER tomorrow? I just want my PLTR $15 puts to make me a few grand.

>>56188714
>>56188484
And yet, I had a bull put spread for XLF $35/37 for October 13th. Already ended up losing $100 on it, because I couldn't hold until expiry for a $60 loss (short 37 got assigned and I had a $7400 balance collecting interest, better to eat the loss and move on)
Having said that, if I had more cash in my account I'd still be open. Oh well, next time I'll have a buffer

>>56188714
sell roshashashana, buy yum kipper

it's never really over

>https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1706037507341578638

I'm shorting apple, people are already complaining about the fucking cameras falling off after it drops on the floor, something that's never happened with older models.

>>56188769
There was a video trending on YouTube yesterday at number one about the 15 Pro Max, and its back glass cracked like nothing. Not to mention, the best battery life out of all the 15s is the regular 15. They really fucked this one up. The titanium scratches are seen easily as well.

>>56188769
Do it and be just like those fags that are like “Nintendo is totally going out of business guys!!” you might make a few bucks MAYBE but Apple could start saying the N word in commercials and still profit off all the people buying them as a status symbol

sent from my iphone

wtf, I thought this is what /smg/ already was

>>56188769
>>56188779
>Sh*rting AAPL
Please stop with the antisemitism

>>56188809
>>56188809
>>56188809
>>56188809
baking
baked
banked

>>56188005
https://youtu.be/V0EZobdiJ4M

>>56188268

>>56188484
>Americans are defaulting on their credit cards and auto loans at levels not seen since the financial crisis, per NYP
for perspective

>>56188769
Oh shit my roth is like 55% AAPL
I'm never retiring now