/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56185155
we're already in one

>>56185155
uhmmm actually the jews on tv told me that the recession is unlikely

>>56185155
we're already in a recession you dumb monkey

>>56185155
They're trying to put off anything official until blumpf, desantis, etc can become the fall guy.

>>56185166
fpbp. People and businesses are living off savings/credit. Once that's gone (~1 month from now) everything stops.

>>56185155
Been in a recession for over a year

I don't think we're heading for a recession, because we're already in one.

>>56185166
Recession with full employment? Doesn't happen. Isn't happening now.

>>56185428
Nvidia is singlehandedly holding up the entire US economy

>>56185155
I thought home prices are always rising?

>>56185437
you are seeing everyone is on life support from the money printing, gas is going to be the one that goes first.

>>56185437
Look at you with your facts. Gtfo. We only deal with unfounded doom here.

Hmm. Everyone I know is doing fine. Weird.

>>56185170
jerome powell's answers about the likelihood of a soft landing in the Fed interest rate announcement press conference convinced me that things are about to collapse worse than we can even imagine, specifically the answer where he bitched out the reporter for saying that a soft landing was guaranteed

>>56185455
wrong- the cooked numbers are giving the illusion that the economy is holding up
>unemployment: numbers (aside from being wholly false/inaccurate and understated) don't include people who have been unemployed longer than 100 days as they are presumed to be "out of the workforce"
>core vs transitory inflation: just blatantly cooked
>job creation/available jobs: employers and especially employment agencies post jobs that never get filled, with fake salaries
there are doubtless many other ways the books are being cooked but these are a few. it all depends on the lie that the economy "remains strong" and ultimately the only thing keeping our charade going is the willingness of our leaders to keep telling the lie with a straight face.

>>56185612
especially now that russia has cut off oil exports unexpectedly.

>>56185719
Putin knows hes got the U.S in the same position the USSR was economically in 1992.

>>56185685
yeah i caught that too. normalniggers are so fucking desperate for a soft landing. they are 5-7 figures in debt (mortgage, car payments, student loans, credit cards, etc.) and it's all hanging in there by the tiniest of threads.

>>56185155
We have been in a deep depression for three and a half years now

>>56185261
Trump isn't even getting a nomination, much less elected.

>>56185745
What does this mean for people who aren't in debt and have a lot of money?

>>56185862
they'll have their pick of assets and desperate jobless roasties

Student loan payments start in 1 week!
>>56185764
He'll sleepwalk to the nomination but he's definitely not getting elected, no Republican is ever again. There's just too many non-whites in the country now who consider the GOP the "white people party" (even though they don't do shit for white interests or even acknowledge whites as a distinct group)

>>56185764
>>56185892
Pennsylvania and Arizona plus either NC or Georgia. But they'll cheat hard to make sure it doesn't happen.

>>56185892
This is good if your accelerationist, subhumans hate their existence because while they know these gibs aren't going to last the only reason why they're here is to mooch off of it. Completely unable to understand what happens when America falls, their entire lives regardless if they're here or back home just got 50x harder and its going to be a culling via famine like no other.

There certainly are a lot of feds in this thread.

FUD, we're going to have an extremely soft landing because... Because the president said so okay?

>>56185625
Gb2r nigger

>>56185155
>home prices fall from 800k to 650k
>WAOW BIGGEST PRICE DROP EVAR!!!! RECESSION INCOMING!!!
we're still in an upward trend with high demand and low supply. prices will continue to rise and you will continue to seethe as illegals, rich foreign chinks, and blackrock continues to buy up land & property while native whites wither

>>56186136
Fed

>>56186136
Prices needed to drop 40% just to be the same as they were when banks were cutting 2-3% loans. Prices holding steady or only dropping 5% is really a giant increase. It's kike propaganda claiming prices falling. Houses are still selling at over asking offers in under a week here in bidding wars against asshole commiefornians moving north.

>>56186142
>schizoposting

>>56185155
Does it really matter if we have a -5% decline after going up 20%+ as shown in the chart? Heck even the max decline caps out at -10%

>>56185892
> consider the GOP the "white people party" (even though they don't do shit for white interests

White supremacists never do shit for poor/middle class white people. They use race to distract from the class war.

The south didn’t have a strong manufacturing economy around the time of the civil war because there was the fear that white workers would unionize and start having class solidarity with poor black workers.

DeSantis is letting home insurance companies rape middle class white Floridians

>>56185892
>He'll sleepwalk to the nomination
Not gonna happen. If he's allowed to caucus with them they'll be blacklisted from all major banks like they (the banks) threatened to do if Warren or Sanders got the nomination back in 2015.

>>56186233
>The south didn’t have a strong manufacturing economy around the time of the civil war because there was the fear that white workers would unionize and start having class solidarity with poor black workers.

The south didn't have the resources to support heavy manufacturing line the rust belt. It takes localor cheaply transported iron ore and coal to build machinery. And there was no unionization in northern shops at the time either.

>>56185155
Here's your recession indicator: blackjack pays 6:5 instead of 3:2 now.

>>56186233
Did you have a point or are you just repeating shit you read somewhere like a bot? There is no white supremacist political party in the US. Certainly not the GOP.

>>56186233
>strong property rights
>manifest destiny
>hierarchy with white men at the top
>system of government guaranteeing power disproportionately held in the hands of landowners and rural America (which are overwhelmingly white)

The Founders, who were almost all explicitly white supremacists, did a fuck ton for white people of all classes. Their decisions still have substantial consequence to this day, and it makes libshits like you seethe

>>56186372
The funniest thing about suburban socialists and their incoherent "it's all about class!" ideology is that identitarian tension inevitably makes class solidarity impossible, and that this is as iron-clad as gravity. This is what makes diversity is our strength such a meme. The elite mean that it's THEIR strength, not ours.
I'd love to see him try and keep it real with the niggas though and teach them about "class solidarity."
These people actually believe labor and consumer choice are substantive enough to form a meaningful sense of group identity, even though no one feels attached to their job anymore and consumerism is inherently shallow.

>>56186330
Gotta get that 38 sorroscents for a spampost. Send like a hard way to earn the money for dick removal surgery.

>>56186416
kek nailed it. coddled faggots like him don't realize the irreconcilable differences between poor whites and poor blacks
>hurr durr if only appalachian whites and ghetto chicongo niggers could rise up as fellow workers, we would have true socialist utopia

delusion on another level

>>56186416
Amazon pushes diversity purpusfully because they know it makes creating a union almost impossible
Diversity kills the working class and capitalists know it

>>56186559
not to mention the floods of illegals. how exactly will you go on strike if you have deportation hanging over your head? leftists are absolutely fucking retarded

>>56186312
Have you heard of the Mississippi River? Even back then it was extremely cheap to move materials from the north to south.

>>56186372
The founding fathers literally didn’t give voting rights to poor white people who didn’t own land.

>>56186572
leftists are absolutely fucking maliciously dishonest

ftfy

>>56186572
Th left has unironically subverted since the 1960s by everything under the sun from sex to race, to destroy a united working class

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKH0EwEPnZw

>>56186602
>The founding fathers literally didn’t give voting rights to poor white people who didn’t own land.
Land was cheap and plentiful back then. Not to mention the fact that land was give out for FREE in the Homestead Act of 1862, almost all of which went to whites. As a poor man, under the federal and state constitutions, you were guaranteed the same property rights as any rich man, a concept virtually unheard of in England or any other nation at the time.

>>56186690
This. You could either join the military or fuck off into the frontier and congrats you're a land owner.
Things have gotten much harder now except that when you're not homeless you have AC, smartphones, and healthcare.

>>56185155
Bruh, you haven't seen shit when housing is concerned - ppl here are asking for a rent that's equal to 70% of average salary (without bills) for a 1 room apartment per month (not in city center), while mid houses and apartments cost 200k$+, while average salary is 600e. East Europe is truely a retarded place, who the fuck buys these homes when you need to work like 100 years (without inflation and with no side spendings) to buy one?

>>56185155
heading for.....? We have been in one for a while

>>56186830
German boomers fleeing Germany

>>56185437
Except it’s not full employment. Nobody is hiring.

>>56185499
Should catalogue every media outlet that has carried stories paid for by the NAR and give the list to last years borrowers who are about to get obliterated

>>56187272
If you account for inflation its even worse

>>56185764
so true, repeal the 19th, deport illegals and amnesty babies. H1Bs can stay with quotas

>>56186690
>founding fathers didn't allow anyone to be a citizen except from England, Ulster, Scottish Lowlands and Saxony.

>>56185437
full employment
what the fuck are you smoking?
do you actually believe the horseshit that comes out of Janet Yellens mouth?

>>56186539
marx said lumpenproles were subhumans incapable of class consciousness

>>56187890
(You) are right

>>56185751
this
just go outside and see for yourself
every major city is becoming detroit if not already
spending power is weaker than the great depression
the employment numbers are meaningless with how cooked they are
majority of the country is on welfare or working under the table
most of the employed are living on debt and a prayer
the top 20% are the only ones not feeling it too hard outside their grocery budget
top 1% is killing it as always and the gap gets wider

>>56185704
They literally use “owners equivalent rent” where they survey some soccer mom about what shed rent her house out for instead of just tracking multi family rent or sfr rent which is what everyone is actually paying.

Inflation numbers are nigger rigged so hard,

>>56185719
sells to india at massive premium, india resells at market price

>>56188969
Also owners equivalent rent makes up 25% of inflation.

Most people spend roughly 30-40% of their take home pay on rent.

>>56186949
This isn't logical - why would they live here when prices of basically everything are 2x bigger than in Germany.

>>56185155
i've been watching home prices pretty hard for about a year
I only check in a few places but yeah. it's happening
am actually seeing nice home for a decent price now. a few.
declines are usually seen in new listings. there's still a lot of faggits who will absolutely not take one penny less than the number in their heads
lmao. it's going to be fun. if you have cash

>>56185437
"Alice, what is the US Labor Force Participation Rate right now?"
>62.30%
mhmmm, full employment.. but almost 40% of the working age amerimutts don't have a job? Really get my noggin joggin.

>>56185764
And that's a good thing™. The sooner this talmudic farce of R-D uniparty get revealed to the normies, the better. At least some alternatives could maybe emerge once the system only have one, oppositionless, party not even trying to masquerade as le democracy anymore. Just like in France ever since the jews decided they had enough playing the pretend game and nuked both the republicans and democrats to install an omnipotent "middle-ground" party, which is as you could expect full corpocratic corruption larping as ultra-liberalism, mixed with fake ass societal faggotry to D&C the plebs among themselves, larping as inclusive, ESG-friendly ""socialism"".
Too bad all the current alternatives are controlled oppositions anyway..

>>56189533
Whats going on in the video? Jew manhandling his arm?

>>56189548
LIterally mastered like a puppet by big jewboi. Pretty fitting for Macron, an "ancient" bankster at Edmond de Rothschild, specialized in the dismantling of french industrials to be sold for scrap value to international conglomerates.

>>56186602
>The founding fathers literally didn’t give voting rights to poor white people who didn’t own land.
Kino, aristocratic Roman American Republic is incredibly based. Virginian Aristocrats deserve to rape peckerwoods by the right of superiority you disgusting streetshitting slave

>>56189533
Macron is a faggot anyway btw

Also if drumpf wins there is a good change a bunch of beaners get deported. Might buy time for another election:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y2vNLlBul8
Main thing is reds gotta figure out how to rig the election like demoniggers

>>56189533
>vid
Terrible. It's 1920s again, isn't it.

>2021
>muh recession!!
>2022
>muh recession!!
>2023
>muh recession!!!!!!
you are here
>2024
>muh recession!!!!!!!!
>2025
>muh recession!!!!!!!!
>2026
>muh recession!!!!!!!!
>2027
>muh recession!!!!!!!!

>>56190769

Post your long positions.

>>56185764

How does it even feel like to be a Democrat, pushing out the most zombie uninspiring swamp creature candidate possible and then relying on incredibly aggressive, corporate funded ballot harvesting in select nigger filled cities just to eke your way across the finish line in a few battleground states in order to win

Rather than actually putting together candidates people organically care about and turn out to vote for

What a disgusting existence

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>>56185888
define "a lot"

>>56190914
This is what democracy is friend, the lowest common denominator (niggers, spics, and libtards) feeding a corrupt political machine that seeks to empower a bunch of nagging, haranguing insane communists, roasties, and niggers.

>>56191878

At least that's what unlimited democracy is. Imagine a pragmatic, selective democracy that only granted voting rights to some smaller pool of highly qualified, productive, intelligent people. Would transform the entire landscape

>>56190914
don't care still voting biden

cry about it shill

>>56191899
This is what the guys at the beginning wanted and it must have been so kino. Before a bunch of catholics came in with political machines and inbred insanely nepotistic jews. Nowadays it's even worse because it is pajeets and changs now. The modal American today is a fat, retarded faggot.

>post economic data
>retards pour in and start spouting off about politics they don't understand

every time

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>>56190869
Why do you think a recession will happen?

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>>56191899

Desperate (((community manager))) being desperate
Gtfo you scum fucks

>>56191930

It's crazy to me that, despite all of their safeguards and separation of powers and all that, two faced elected representatives still managed to ram through highly unpopular amendments to 1. let blacks vote 2. let women vote 3. let children vote

Like just think about it at any given time these would have been met with 80% resistance in a real democratic election and yet in a perversion of Republican ideals the fags in DC all ganged up together and pushed this shit through anyway

>>56191958

Did you get lost on your way to reddit you fucking cretin?

>>56191959

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Gtfo here scum fuck. Nobody reads your crap

>>56191971

>t. 16 year old niggerwoman

>>56191970

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Are you losing control and users? Apparently yes. You fucked up. Most incompetent bunch of ccp scum that ever tried to (((moderate))) discourse on the internet

>>56191959
I disagree that allowing 18 year olds the vote is wrong. An IQ test and racial test would suffice imo. I'm 18 btw and I hate niggers and retards more than 99% of people

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>>56191958

Post your long positions. I want to see if you are putting your money where your mouth is.

>>56191989

You won't disagree when you're 25, trust me. 18-21 year olds are more infantile than literally ever in human history right now. People your age were fighting world wars and starting families 60 years ago, it's the only reason they ever suggested it.

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You are the most incompetent (((community manager))) third party agency on the entire internet. Chinese and ccp affiliated retards

>>56192002
Anon I agree but I've met old people and they're also retarded most of the time. I think there are many 70 year olds in this country that are literal slave, and infantilization is a result of boomers literally hoarding the money while taking away more genuine freedoms from young people. Having the freedom to become a tranny or faggot are not freedoms, yet boomers thought it was. Most climate change nonsense is funded by boomer billionaires. The restrictions on the ability for interpersonal violence for whites while shirking from violence against criminal niggers in the big shitty was undertaken under boomer and silent gen governments.


>>56191994
I'm just asking you, not an attak.

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>>56192033

Why would you come to this place and larp like you're in the markets when it's clear you're not?

>>56192048

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You are the most incompetent (((community manager)))/(((hey fellow user advertiser)))/((((demoscopic "researcher"))) on the entire internet and directly responsible for active user numbers nose diving and reaching new atl every day

>>56190914
they do not care at all and probably get a dopamine drip from doing it and hiding behind the law to rub it on your face

>>56192067

No it's the pajeet scammers and larping redditors that drove people off.

No one is actually discussing the markets because they're not even in the markets. Once the shitcoin bubble popped interest in getting rich quick dropped off and the scammers went hungry. All that is left is their bots.

>>56192363

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No, it's you. You are so incompetent it's off putting. And it's the reason social media is dying. The "hey fellow user" advertising scum like you.
You all need to be fired, though its too late already, congrats, the lowest level of advertising was reached and run into the ground. There is no lower level - it's is over

>>56192387

Ah this is a chat bot. If I was to ask what exactly I advertised it wouldn't be able to answer.

>>56192475

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You are incompetent and path dependent with 0 agency. Congrats you are closer to a bot than the actual slaves here doing it for free

>>56192485

this seems to be a shitty jeet chatbot it's not even able to answer basic questions.

>>56186416
This, pretty much all sucessful sociest movements eventually grapple with this and accept seperate-but-equal/socialism with x characterists policies. There is still a lot that can be done within that range, but American socialists are sucidically idealistic like the French and will never get ahead because of it like the Russians and Chinese did.

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>It's a "bot" fellow users
>Please ignore the user
>It's (((our))) common enemy fellow humans
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
The uncreativity of (((community managers))) and their 0 agency. A source of pure amusement

>>56192538

>bot still can't point out what I "advertised"

Ranjeet can't implement gpt all that well

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Narratives, you stupid, script following, incompetent (((community manager))) scum

>>56190914
>How does it even feel like to be a Democrat
Not him but probably pretty good that I can just take my mask off now and push for full open accumilation of power while grifting millions of dollars.

>>56192562

well shit last input for that bots that are killing 4chan

It makes me wonder what the makers of the bots are. Is this a glownigger op when recession gets talked about they trigger and shit things up? Very similar to CCP tactics.

>>56192581

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Says the fail (((community manager))) scum that run the website with his incompetent "hey fellow user" advertising straight into the ground.

>>56191980
Happy cake day!

>>56192736
What? I suppose this is meant to be a meme. It has no meaning to me

>>56185155
We have been in a recession for a while, does anyone actually believe the cooked up numbers released by the government regarding employment and growth kek

>>56193652
They literally changed the definition of a recession so that we wouldn't be in one. Same thing how they changed the definition of a depression in 2008 so we wouldn't be in one then too, then used the softer word 'recession' to cover their asses.
>>56192618
Pee pee poo poo piss cum fuck shit

>>56194667
You fucked up. Enjoy starving third worlder. Europe ain't buying hohol grain to distribute to you thirdies

the sages predict ruin

>>56186416
that's a lot of words to explain why poor people are too dumb to see that the solution to getting fucked by the 1% is getting together
>identitarian tension inevitably makes class solidarity impossible
you say this as if it were a law of nature and not a divide and conquer tactic deployed by the owning class because of the threat a coalition poses to their hegemony.
>see: MLK getting shot within weeks of declaring a poor people's march on DC
>see: crack getting pumped into the ghettos as racial movements were starting to unite
>see: dirt-poor brown/black immigrants being used to break strikes since forever
luckily, "we are the 99%" is a meme strong enough to overcome all the rich man's fuckery in the world which is why they martyred its author David Graeber

>>56195772
Arrogant college fart huffer not realizing that you are a stone throw away from being burned alive

>>56186318
i work with prostitutes and drug dealers for my job in community health. i knew the recession had hit earlier this summer when one client told me that their customer base had shrunk by half bc "nobody has any money any more!"
so for the next two weeks when i was meeting clients i'd ask them how business was going and they all said the same thing- profits were way down.
the hooker-and-plug index is probably a great leading indicator of market conditions

>>56186044
the other day in the interest rate announcement press conference JPow snapped at a journalist for saying that a soft landing was a sure thing and that everything is extremely vulnerable to systemic instability. that's when i knew it's probably way worse than they're telling us even with all the talk of a "narrow runway" and all that

>>56190914
I bet it feels like winning.
You can steal the election, try and lock up your opponents and keep changing the definition of recession and so on, import millions of shitskins and amerimutts will keep eating the shit you feed them.

>>56192002
>Yes goy, go to Arab shithole and EARN your right to vote. My haliburton stock needs some inflating…

>>56185437
covid forced a lot of baby boomers out of the job market, if everyone who was suppose to retire did, we would be in a full blown worker shortage.

>>56185166
This. 2023 will be known as the start. 2024 they'll announce it when they think we're on the up swing.

>>56185437
>He still trust the employment numbers.

>>56186136
>800k to 650k
With inflation and stagnate wages that's actually a big deal. The fed is ass raping all the dumb money investor bros that got into RE over the past few years.

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>>56195772
There is no hanging windmill troonjak GIF that can make up for this drivel you have shat out of your prolapsed anus

>>56196518

I'm still waiting for the housing market crash. Two more years?

>>56185170
The media was shitting out recession fear propaganda for two years you got it wrong
>>56185322
Not two weeks?
>>56185437
This

>>56189483
Retard, there are people pregnant,in school, retired, dont want to slave etc etc etc etc