/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56139566
checked, roosters and swiss miss are truly the best gold coins

>>56139566
>Liberty, Equality, Fraternity Edition
Cleanliness and purity
suffer not the filth of abominations

>>56139577

Oh shiggady, these bad boys came in a custom case.

>>56139590
I was going to work on the set slowly, it now I feel like holding out for the holy grail

i believe that we will win

>>56139613
Peace dollar enjoyers always win

For the New Thread Enjoyers
>Crusader Update - Once pic related gets revised all we'll be waiting on is the production sample
>Project idea: I want to make a custom calendar with /pmg/ images for each month, and whatever special dates that are important to precious metals history. If this is something you might be interested in, think of the month you'd like to represent and send me an email at any time with your photographs. They do not need to have any memecoins in them but any silver or gold that you have that you'd like to show off

>>56139694
what a charming idea :^)

How much silver ounces do I need to make it in the bull run? What's a make-it stack?

>>56130501 #
No it wouldn't you dullard. You can't cheat Economy, look at Au, it functions as a near perfect -1x of fiat (at least over multi-decade timeframes). 44x since '71, compared to 42x monetary expansion. Market manipulation is a statist boogyman like monopolies or deflationary spirals

>>56139694
If you're going to do more meme coins for me I'd say just stick with the pure silver coins and stop doing the gilded ones. That seems to hold up the whole project. It's just my opinion and might not even be true but that's what it feels like.

>>56139716
>Market manipulation is a statist boogyman like monopolies or deflationary spirals
Most retarded sentence on the chans today, congrats!

>>56139719
To be fair any delay is purely my fault, the gilding itself doesn't cause any excess delay but I can see the argument about gilded being the only serialized option

>>56139732
>gilded being the only serialized option
that makes sense to me

>>56139730
You can't manipulate a market you don't control entirely, and even fake markets where the manipulator controls the entire market (FTT, CEL, Adani etc) blow up relatively quickly. If you could successfully manipulate a real market, you could centrally plan an economy, for what is central planning but the ultimate market manipulation? But you can't. Au proves this, if central banks could manipulate gold down don't you thing they would? Yet gold has performed near perfectly as a -1x of fiat

>>56139694
It looks good! I guess I was the only one who liked the shiny pupils. They looked kind of weird but were visually interesting and dare I say…soulful.

>>56139832
so then why was jpmorgan fined for market manipulation? because it doesnt exist? Why are there laws against it if its impossible?

>>56139832
it's a proven fact in court, buddy
take it up with the judge

Can someone send me about 8$ eth or bnb? Its going for testing purposes, and can be send at any chain.
Thanks, if anyone help me figure out this.

0x8DC2250Cf820C5eC5A A23D97F395ef3188806327 (remove space)

>>56139880
Stop crypto begging on /pmg/ schizo

>>56139843
JPM got fined for spoofing, spoofing doesn't effect the equilibrium price of a good, only allows them to jew some over leveraged traders.
>b-but there are LAWS
you must be 18 to post on this site.

>>56139904
>Muh spoofing!
call it whatever you want retard
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/sep/29/jpmorgan-chase-admits-spoofing-us-market-manipulation-pay-920m

>>56139904
Hahaha
Oh wait are you serious?
Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

>>56139590
>>56139592
Where in the world did you find that?

The neighbor wanted her daughter to learn a new hobby now she helps me search coin rolls.

you invest in low cost global index funds and buy physical gold and silver to diversify right?

>>56139832
they do manipulate gold sheen using infinite currency in the futures market. looks like we're over the target when the kikes are here speaking lies

>>56139694
Link

>>56140404
I had a dream last night that I was a cashier again and I would pick out all of the mercs when I'd count my till

>>56140404
wtf, this is not a hobby, it's fucking torture kek!
Sorting out coins like a bot turn you mad after 10mn as a grown man, so a little girl... Just stop this dude.

>>56140874
anonymintpm

Bump

>>56139832
Gold is also manipulated like silver, just to a lesser degree because it's more expensive. Central banks controlling interest rates of foat paper money is market manipulation, yes, and it's going to blow up eventually, just like the paper metals markets. It's pretty much unavoidable, as you say.

>>56140404
Bruh…I hope you’re at least paying her.

>>56140404
T'awwwwwwwww

>>56140404
This is actually a great way to teach kids maths without even trying because they'll quickly become far better at it when they realise that can translate to sweets (aka candy, aka "spice" in yorkshire), clothes, games etc

Much more fun than dicking around with a piece of paper and pencil*

>*am saying this as someone who's coded through billions of tedious fda entries etc

When the Shanghai gold market decoupled from London/New York, I finally grabbed a coin I have wanted for a long time: a Japanese Meiji-era 10 yen. It is now my favorite.

>>56141563
Flip side

>>56141035
>Sorting out coins like a bot turn you mad after 10mn as a grown man
You've clearly never hand loaded your own ammo by the thousands of rounds with a single stage press.

>>56139566
Panman, Panman, give me DD
I've got a bad case of itchy PP

>>56139904
Fuck you.

GOLD?

>>56139566
My photos in two OPs in a row, stop it guys, you're gonna make me blush.

>>56141563
That's beautiful anon

>>56140404
based, cute and wholesome

PMs are going to crash tomorrow after the FED announces that it's cutting rates. Dont say I didn't warn you

>>56140404
Reminds me, how my Dad used to have us kids do this. hekp him sort through piles of coins.
Also, anytime he gave us money to walk down to the corner store and buy something, he always told us to check the dates on the coins we got back in change.
Dad was always warning us kids to look out for coins dated 1964 or earlier and always told us how they were worth 10 times face value because of the Silver.
So any time we found a 1964 or older coin, we would dutifully bring it to him and hand it over.

>>56141563
Very nice

>>56141563
>>56141568
What a gorgeous coin Anon, I think I need to go hunting

>>56141664
cutting rates is supposed to make PMs moon though
eh who the hell knows these days. clown world

>>56141563
>>56141568
great japanese craftsmanship

>>56139582
Holy shit, that's beautiful.
Can you do the other side too?

>>56139694
You said previously that fulfilment might be as early as August, but more likely in September. That's still the latest news posted on the website.
What are we looking at now?

Am I gunna make it?

>>56140404
Is that kinder retarded?

>>56141563
>>56141568
that's pretty.

>>56142038
stop riding his ass about a meme coin
it'll come when it comes

>>56141563
>I finally grabbed a coin
>>56141568
Very nice indeed.
How/where did you find it, and how did the market separation influence your decision?

>>56139566
Palladium bros?

>>56140058
>>56140060
>>56141619
>arguments: none
>tears: salty
>>56141381
>>56140692
While it's tended towards runs of over/under performance, gold has averaged exactly -1x fiat since the 70s. Load a Au/m2 chart and check it yourself. You can't manipulate markets.

>>56142412
then how do you explain the discrepancy between US gold price and Shanghai gold price?
>in before nonsense anti-chink racism that doesn't answer the question

>>56142438
yes id like an answer to this question too.
Is it from Chinese domestic demand?
Other countries are beginning to decouple form the coomex pricing.
comex price is used as a "reference" and then they add whatever is appropriate for their transaction, like "Comex+$2"

>>56142438
How do you find the current Shanghai price? Is it this:
https://goldprice.org/shanghai-gold-exchange-gold-price
That's $2 off what Kitco says.
https://www.kitco.com/market/

How would I buy gold at Shanghai prices? It seems they're higher though - why would anyone pay a Shanghai price?

US junk seems cheap-ish this week for some reason

>>56142668
I prefer to think of it as less absurdly expensive. One face dollar contains about $17 ASW at today's spot price. So $20 is an 18% markup for filthy lucre.

>>56142631
no country is going to say no to importing gold
i don't know where that meme comes from
exporting gold is another matter

>>56142719
>i don't know where that meme comes from
It's not a meme. It's news - a screen capture of a partial article here:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-13/china-gold-premium-hits-record-as-beijing-steps-up-yuan-defense
Corroborated here (pic related):
https://www.bullionvault.com/gold-news/buy-gold-india-china-071520231
(Part of the BRICS plan - I'm just guessing here)

In the meantime I still have questions. If you can offer any help, I'd appreciate it:
>>56142631

>>56142631
>>56139781

>>56142719
i wathced a YT video yesterday hosted by ArcadiFinancial and the guest talked about how the Chinese people (private citizens) can not buy gold directly form US or anywhere. they somehow can only buy what is sourced form the Chinese Govts supply
i believe that is what he said

how is the amc meme still going? it is going to break my brain

>>56142668
Premiums in general have been on the decline which are a reflection of retail investor demand. Student debt repayments resuming, interest rates, and inflation still rising are just a few of the reasons why the average person has less money to invest.

>>56142805
>Came here to be an asshole

>>56142815
That is bullshit.

>1g gold bar 70 merkelcoins
>1oz silver filharmoniker 30 merkelcoins
is there something i'm missing or is silver in yurop really all 50% over spot

>>56142815
Can you link their source?

>>56142986
That makes sense. A lot of people were too stupid with their Covid money and are currently digging themselves into deeper holes with all their TV subscriptions and GrubHub living paycheck to paycheck to support that shitty lifestyle.

>>56142038
Rock-Tober
All the delays have been for this

>>56142386
I found it on ebay. But it is not an uncommon coin. Some online dealers had it too. Most are in plastic. But I wanted to hold it in my hand.

To some extent the Shanghai decoupling was just an excuse for me to do what I wanted to do anyway, but if it is signalling the breakup of global gold price control, then I may never see a lower price on that coin.

>>56142412
>ignores facts with word play
ngmi

>>56143056
here's the video i was referring to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cuqJjeM4Uo

i don't know that they provide hard sources for all of their assertions. i take it all with a grain of salt. not like i'm in a position to do anything major with any of this information they present, other than hold on to your butts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cuqJjeM4Uo

>>56142986
>student debt repayments resuming, interest rates, and inflation still rising
Depressions are deflationary.
Folks feast on free money going up, then starve on the way down.
Some feast and starve more than others.

>>56143027
ok. i didn't know. i take everything they say with a large grain of salt anyways. but the more i watch their videos the more i see a pattern of they're really sharing "opinions" that are always strongly self-reference-biased

>>56143052
You're not even trying. The OP pastebin has euro dealers with lower prices.

>>56139566
ahoy

>>56143385
>a new challenger appears
aarrgghhh matey!

>>56143385
You're gonna need a treasure chest!

>>56143052
that 1g gold bar is far worse in terms of premiums

>>56143415
based chest enthusiast

this ma-shops seller has a youtube channel where he shows off some of his coins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q7NVbEFS-k

Oh shit

>>56143811
>that premium
And it's looks like a shitty mock up. I wouldn't have high hopes for that at all

>>56143964
mint's will be better. he's still doing it right?

>>56143811
Lol, American bullion dealer has to buy these at retail from a Hong Kong bullion dealer and attach a massive mark up per coin to sell to stupid RWers. Pottery.

>>56143970
that was holo

>>56143811
yeah that looks like shit mate
also putting politics on your silver is a good way to turn off a ton of buyers, honestly

>>56143975
An alternative design would be nicer

>>56143997
ah that's right. hopefully he still does it.

>>56144118
something like that would be a good idea too

>bought a few silver 925s thinking they were 999s
T-this won't be a major issue right bros? I'm new to this whole collecting thing.

>>56144170
Don't worry about it

>>56144170
Which coins? But either way it doesn't matter much if you only bought a few.

>>56139694
>I want to make a custom calendar
Do you have an idea of what dimensions or aspect ratio you want/need for the images?

>>56139694
do you want them with the desk mats or without? is there a deadline?

>>56144231
According to the site I'm looking at using, it'll be a 4:3 aspect ratio with images being 10" x 7.5
>>56144256
They don't need to have the desk mats or even any memecoins in them, just any precious metals related image you'd want to set up. No deadline yet

>>56144170
pobody's nerfect :^)
buying PMs is a skill like any other
you will improve in time

>>56144229
4 of them were part of an Olympic Winter set in Canada, Paddler, Diver, Sailing and Swimmer. A couple were in celebration of the Queens 80th birthday one trooping the colour and another with a fanfare of trumpets. One was The Queen Mother "lady of the century". And one was a 25th anniversary of the coronation issued by the isle of man. Some of them came with certs making it easier to name, others didn't. I'd take some pictures but I got no space to properly display them right now.

>>56144366
Dubs checked - thanks!

I plan to buy silver for 50.000$ (already have 1.1kg gold, but only boring 100g bars)
And for silver i want to have a nice collection of coins. Are there any based meme coins with hitler or pepe on it? Any video game stuff?

>>56144465
>Are there any based meme coins with hitler or pepe on it?
there are rounds like that, a coin is government-backed currency so no government is doing that. But the government of Chad did make a coin with the frog god Kek on it. Because Kek is Egyptian and Chad is close enough to Egypt I guess

>>56144402
I guess most olympics coins are pretty common, but the queen-related ones might become worth some decent money in the collector market, depending on the design and how many were minted, etc.

>>56144465
Your either very new or very new to shilling. Your a Jew right?

>>56144465
show pic first

>>56144420
If I can I'm going to try and get the bleed version that goes all the way to the edges so might need some extra space on the sides

APMEX is having a pretty nice looking deal on 90% junk. Kinda itching to splurge on a few rolls. Why do they do these things when I am trying to be good.

>>56144773

Finally a green day.

>>56142016
not mine. was posted a few months ago

any EuroAnons

https://www.ebay.de/itm/285466520810

>>56141686

Nice anon, my dad did the same but just with quarters. So like an autistic zog I'd search for "silver quarters" meaning anything made before 1964

>>56145304
>333/1000 Silver
POUUAAAAH

>>56145380
yeah I saw that after I looked harder for it.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/285466520810

>>56145412
Sadly typical of the (((Monnaie de Paris))) ever since a jew took over. These € commemorative coins used to be .925 since the 60s, and .950 before that (i believe it's the oldest mint in the world still in duty, opened in 600 AD).
But now, even though the retail price for those memecoins are outrageous, they have the chutzpah to make ultra low purity billon on top of it.

And of course they don't advertize it, you see SILVER € all over it, but nowhere the purity is being displayed. But since i know better i knew i should dig a bit, and with no surprise it was .333 vomit, but i understand how it can fool innocent souls. Vile kikes at play.

>>56145412
>>56145481
If a fren have 300 bux to spare and want french collectible silver, i'd rather advise this :
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/155777267197

600g of .958 pre-revolutionary silverware (circa 1770 i'd say) with royal hallmarks (fermiers généraux) from the city of Dijon (where the mustard come from!) for very cheap.
Yes, the condition isn't top notch, and some of the marks are partially wiped, but it's still x100 more sovllfvl and rare.
And most of all, for the same price you get 18.5toz of fine silver out of it, vs 4 tiny oz with the Gaultier box.

>GOLD SPOT GO THE FUCK DOWN, I WANT MY CHEAPIE BEFORE THE CPI REPORT IN THE MORNING!

>>56144773
Monument also had a junk sale this past weekend. Besides premiums in general falling, the only way large quantities of 90% junk enters the market is when some boomer or silent gen kicks the bucket.

>>56144730
Nice doggo!

>>56145481
For the recent coins I saw (asterix, le petit prince) they had .333 listed somewhere on the packaging. Maybe it's not obvious to normies who buy this stuff, but I could spot it easily.
They had some better .900 coins (wheat, oak, laurel) recently but I don't see them at the post office nearby. They've only got olympics stuff now (no doubt also .333, but I didn't bother to check).
But wait, it gets better! The .333 coins with a face value of 10 euros used to sell for 10 euros. So you at worst you could spend them as euros. But now they sell for 12 euros.

Does anyone have the cipher kike shill meme handy?

>>56143385
Я этo зaбepy и тeлo зapoю в лecy.

>>56145916
>recently but I don't see them at the post office nearby.
Jme demande qui achète ces merdes en .333, j'ai un shop online, donc je vais à la poste tous les jours. et bien sûr ya les immanquables pièces asterix/tintin/whatever.. en vitrine. J'en ai jamais vu une seule manquer à l'appel en 6 ans. Ils changent de collection de temps en temps, mais le succès est toujours le même.
ps : je vis dans une banlieue sud-paris, donc 80% remplacée, ça doit jouer forcément..

>>56146079
They probably sell them all to collectors. I guess people also collect copper-nickel alloy coins (there's tons of those on numista) and this .333 junk is a step above that. So long as they keep rotating the designs with the latest fads (harry potter, lord of thing rings, star wars, etc.) they'll always move some product.
And best of all it's not worth much. So who's going to steal them?

>>56142976
Trust the plan

crypto nerds will seethe

I looked at my spreadsheet and realized I'm actually down 25% since holding silver for the past few years

very demoralizing, why do we keep buying shiny rocks?

>>56146451
Just to suffer

Hold steady anon, or I'll buy your crumbling hands

>>56146451
Sell me your junk for spot before we crash to zero nerd.

>>56146451
>1pbtid
>i'm one of you bros
>but wtf i hate shiny rocks now!
Silver rn isn't down -25% compared to any time in the past 5 years, so try to make it more realistic next time. Even if you bought your entire stack at the absolute top (end of May/early June 2021), spot should go down to $21 to make a -25%.

>>56142976
Snagged a few limited coins in case something happens.

>>56146744
the coins are neat. have you averaged down at all since the rs? i'm hoping you guys get a squeeze, not rooting against

>>56146775
>have you averaged down at all since the rs?
That would be extremely painful..

>>56146807
yeah, really. i think a fairly safe assumption would be that it will eventually repeat what just happened, but i think someone's best chance at exiting without huge losses would be to average down and exit on any decent spike. but there's a high probability of you ending up just holding an even larger bag so this is not a suggestion. hopefully he isn't down too much and it is more a reasonably priced lesson.

>>56146835
>exiting
This IS my exit.

>>56146775
Almost did in the 7's. Bought silver instead.

>>56144465
so you have 65k in gold and dont know the difference between a round and a coin?

>>56146835
I start my journey in stocks few months before the short squeeze memes came to fruition. As a good newbie i melded in, made decent monies and then put half of it in an even darker short squeeze (IG Telecom or something, i don't even want to open my broker to verify, it awaken dark memories kek) who declared a chapter 7 literally the day after, so i lost everything, and the other half in various scam juniors miners, where i'm down -95% in average.
My expensive lesson was :
>stop being a retard dude, stocks are a giant scam backed by nothing, entirely designed to siphon cash away from the real economy, and you aren't part of the big bois allowed to profit from it
I believe that if it weren't for stocks, inflation would be much, much worse, as all the trillions in standstill there would be used to chase an ever decreasing amount of goods (we don't produce anymore). Stocks, like bonds, shitcoins and various digitalized "assets" are the last greed-fueled sponges preventing the USD to descent in a hyperinflationary spiral.
This is why i know stick to 100% tangible assets. Mainly PMs, but antiques, collectibles, liquors, cars,.. also are a decent alternative.

>>56146451
>I looked at my spreadsheet and realized I'm actually down 25% since holding silver for the past few years

>very demoralizing, why do we keep buying shiny rocks?

>>56146451
It's so fucking over

>>56146451
I only stack cheapies. Last month bought a monster box of wieners at 23.53 euros/oz. In March I did a little better (some noah's arks at 22.64/oz).

>>56147282
The only benefit of being a frog beside the food, qt gurls and architecture, is to have access to acheter-or-argent.fr lol.
Imagine the bongs... they don't even have the food, the qts, nor the cheapies. What a sad state of affairs.

Does anyone collect PM jewelry? I got my wife this 24k cross/chain and now I'm thinking about getting something platinum for myself.

I'd be interested to see what y'all have

T.hanks

>>56147471
Yeah, I have this 24k pendant.

>>56147496
Damn that's cool. I was thinking about getting this

>>56147442
Bongs have it hard with the silver tax, but they can do pretty gud with gold, especially since some coins are exempt of capital gains. Here you have to hold for 22 years to waive 100% of the CGT. So I guess that explains why not that many people are stacking, it's a long-term commitment.

>>56147566
>Here you have to hold for 22 years to waive 100% of the CGT.
Who gives a shit about this seriously? Just sell to other stackers and ignore taxes, i never paid a single penny of (((CGT))) in my lifetime and never will.

>>56147597
Sure, that works now. But if inflation gets out of hand, it'll be harder. Already the banks are stingy about withdrawing cash. And the EU has also voted in new legislation to reduce the maximum legal amount to 7000 EUR per cash transaction. Granted this last part doesn't directly affect you if you're operating off the books, but it shows that they're tightening the screws. Ultimately their plan is to remove cash altogether and replace it with a CBDC. What better way to achieve that goal than to allow inflation to run rampant? We haven't really seen much inflation yet, but I'm betting it will accelerate next year.

>>56142438
Differential in demand. There are capital controls between these markets or the price would be arb'd away

So, I can buy a new double sovereign right now, but I don't know whether to get one now or wait to see if the price drops. UK CPI is being reported later today, which could result in me being out priced and possibly when I get my next payment. I really don't know what to do and the clock is ticking.

>>56147504
>>56147496
Namaste

>>56147750
I stack what I can, when I can. I am in it for too long to worry about fluctuations over weeks or months.

>>56147750
stop worrying about meme invents like the announcement of some fake and gay numbers

>>56147750
> double sovereign
Buy a normal sov now, and another one later?

>>56143247
What facts? "silver is being heckin short laddered by da COMEX!" isn't a fact, JPM getting fined for spoofing isn't evidence of the magical ability to manipulate a market lower for extended periods of time, the only way to durably lower the market price is dumping huge quantities of the good on the open market, see:SPR releases. This is costly and only works as long as you have goods dump
>b-but da paper!
Can you plate with paper silver/gold, make wire, jewelry, coins? Oh, you can't? So it's not going to meaningful effect the market, see: gold's perfect (average) inverse of monetary expansion.

>>56147855
>What facts? "silver is being heckin short laddered by da COMEX!" isn't a fact, JPM getting fined for spoofing isn't evidence of the magical ability to manipulate a market lower for extended periods of time, the only way to durably lower the market price is dumping huge quantities of the good on the open market, see:SPR releases. This is costly and only works as long as you have goods dump
>>b-but da paper!
>Can you plate with paper silver/gold, make wire, jewelry, coins? Oh, you can't? So it's not going to meaningful effect the market, see: gold's perfect (average) inverse of monetary expansion.

>>56147797
唵嘛呢叭咪吽

>>56147855
>Can you plate with paper silver/gold, make wire, jewelry, coins? Oh, you can't? So it's not going to meaningful effect the market
So a paper ratio of over 200:1 has no effect on the price? Are you totally fucking brain-dead? You idiot

Any love for the humble Austrian schilling?

>>56147855

>>56147897
do you understand how large the overall derivitaves market is compared to the underlying assets?
no you dont

Shills are back meaning another dump is coming up, keep an eye out for cheapies

>>56148026
>>56147927
ScHILLs you say?

>>56146079
>asterix
I would pay big bucks for Asterix series coins.

>>56148026
What are they shilling?

>>56148133
Not buying silver

>>56148185
they're shilling not buying silver so prices are gonna dump? you make no sense mate

>>56147282

Got bored weighed some coins in grains.

2011 ASE type 1
480.5

Krugerrand
479.8

2021 ASE type 2
479.2

Canadian maple
479.8

Roo
478.3

Brittania
478.2

Philharmonic
477.0

A philharmonic monster box would be
496.875ozt

>>56142792
But, but, but!
BRICS+ told me BRICS+ was winning!
Now they even put Evergrande people in jail?
This isn't the communism i was promised!

>>56148322
Yes it's called FUD then FOMO and repeat. That's their strategy for half a decade

>>56148400
Did those fuckers really make the ASE 2 to dump all the type 1's and put a premium on them? They did that with the AGE's

>>56148515
oh dang I have a few 2009 silver iggles are they more better or something

>>56140404
Well that daughter is a ugly jew. Look at that nose.

>>56143964
The grift continues.

>>56147855
This is a bunch of truth. Don't disregard it because the author of that prose is ESL.

>>56148185
>Not buying silver
So not actually shilling.
>>56148507
>it's called FUD then FOMO
Now you got it.

My income allows me to buy around 8-9 ounces of silver every month, or around 100 per year. Should I do it?

>>56149739
So you have roughly $3000 in discretionary income to spend on investments? I don't like investments outside of PM's and or other things I can hold, but I'm not sure I would recommend silver. Sadly silver is affordable for you, but it's also rather volatile, you don't have much to gamble with, and a major swing one way or the other could be disastrous for you if you would need to sell. That being said it's a judgment call on your part, I don't know the fine details of your financial situation, so maybe my assessment is wrong. I'd recommend gold for more stability, but then you'd need to have more to spend for that to make any sense anyways. Kind of in a tough position. Maybe work on improving your income.

>>56144730
Any info you can provide about this coin? It's beautiful

>>56149804
Yeah, my financial situation isn't great, and probably won't improve in a few years either. I'm just a grocery store wagie with few other options for employment.
>but it's also rather volatile
Is there a chance it will go down and not go up again though? I was under the impression that it's a fairly stable investment long-term (then again I'm a noob and an idiot, which is why I'm asking here lol)
>I'd recommend gold for more stability
Then I'd be looking at one ounce per year, would there even be a point if I can't invest more? I'd even risk the price increasing faster than I could save for it. I guess in my mind, having 100 silver coins sounds better than having one gold coin, even if their value is about the same. I'm still learning about this, so please tell me if I'm wrong.

>>56144730

>>56149945

>>56149739
>Should I do it?
Yes.

I want to beat the brains out of the sorry dumb no impulse control motherfuckers who reply to obvious shill posts. Stop. It’s not just pointless, it encourages them.

>>56149739
Yes, but don't buy more than you can hold. In other words, keep enough fiat around for emergency use so you don't have to sell your silver. Don't over-extend. Silver and gold are for the long haul. And best of luck to you!

Big titty Goblin Waifus are the future
and i'm tired of everyone pretending they're not.

>>56150215
>There are three gates leading to this hell - lust, anger, and greed. Every sane man should give these up, for they lead to the degradation of the soul.

>>56150457
wenever you feel sad or scare
buy some silver and eat a mcdonal chiken nuggies
alway rember when u staked at low premium

>>56149925
don't listen to that weirdo
stack silver

>>56149925
>Is there a chance it will go down and not go up again
Just buy silver. And don't listen to anyone telling you to think about emergency money or risks.
Just buy silver, it will squeeze, whoever argues against this known fact should go away.
Just buy silver, it literally is the safest bet you can do, ignore the FUDers.
Just buy silver, they put a banker in jail because he held down the entire silver market, everyone denying that is a shill.
Just buy silver, it's totally liquid too, you get your premiums always back, guaranteed.

Just buy silver.

>>56150690
this but unironically

>>56150420
>Silver and gold are for the long haul
This. I'm starting to realize I need to stack more fiat in the short term. PMs are the "late game stage" currencies. A friend of mine made a few bucks betting on sportsball, I told him to buy silver with his winnings. Keep on stacking frens!

WTFWT

>>56150720
I seriously hope you haven’t spent this whole time thinking that PMs were going to net you big short term gains.

>>56150751
I bought silver for $15 just a few years ago

>>56150751
Biggest mistake new stackers make is they assume the severity of the looming crisis and misunderstand it for being an imminent looming danger. The entire global system collapsing could take another decade for all we know. I thought shit was going to blow up in 2009 and they kicked the can until this long.
Once you hit a comfortable threshold of PMs, you really do need to shore up your finances and remember to keep your account flush with cash with cash outside of the banks. I think the banks will attempt to squeeze the populace with deflationary mightmare and if you lose your job for some reason you could end up being pressured into selling assets long before the big payoff comes.

>>56150706
The cat is ever so slightly shaking it's head.
Trust the cat.

>>56149925
This is what you have to do with your income, in order of urgency, to gain financial stability:
1) Create a 3 month spending emergency fund (6 if you have children)
2) Get rid of all debt, highest interest first, google "debt snowball"
3) Max out pension funds/401 or whatever you have
4) Invest in a simple dividend aristocrat ETF for a bit of extra cash flow, reinvest all dividends.
5) Once you have a year worth of expenses in that ETF, buy one month worth expenses in gold and one in silver (buy lowest premium investment grade coins).
6) Once you have two years worth of expenses in that ETF, buy one more month worth expenses in gold and one in silver (buy lowest premium investment grade coins).
7) Once you have three years worth of expenses in that ETF, buy one more month worth expenses in gold and one in silver (buy lowest premium investment grade coins).
8) Once you have four years worth of expenses in that ETF, buy one more month worth expenses in gold and one in silver (buy lowest premium investment grade coins).

Track everything in an excel sheet (or Google sheet or something).

Gold and silver is for when you have all the bases covered, not when you have nothing. Else you end up like the dudes we have in almost every thread that need to sell at a loss because their washing machine broke.
In an emergency you sell some ETF, then gold and silver, then use the emergency fund.

Also, you need to get more income, get a better or second job, to reach your goals sooner.

>>56150886
>just buy literally anything else besides physical gold and silver
>look how many paper options there are!

>>56150901
Convincing arguments you have there.

>>56150845
>The entire global system collapsing could take another decade for all we know
It's a promise we hear since WWII really. There is a bad news bias in people.
None of the "predictions" should lead to throwing caution and rational finances like >>56150886 out of the window.

>>56150886
this isn't r/personalfinance, faggot
if someone wants to buy silver, he should
simple as

>>56150901
I remember last thread where a poorfag bought fucking silver instead of having an emergency fund and had to sell below spot because there was an emergency.
I also remember the shitty car, the calluses on his hands, dirt under the fingernails and the bad grammar.
Financial decisions are a question of intellect, if you can't reason, you shouldn't make them. In your case i can smell that you bought based on FOMO, or evev just fear, and you are working now against the developing cognitive dissonance.
You confused feeling fear for thinking, because you never properly learned how to think.
Many such cases.
Sad.

>>56150968
>if someone wants to buy silver, he should
He asked if he should. The answer is likely no.

>>56150011
I thought this image was your dick and was about to report it b4 I expanded image KEK

>>56150988
the answer is yes
only in /pmg/ do we get faggots like you coming in with their reddit tier advice telling us to buy ETFs or whatever. why don't you go do that in a buttcoin thread

>>56150886
>>56150845
I generally agree with this. I personally treat my stack as an insurance policy. I have a regular ass IRA with some unexciting mutual funds set to reinvest any gains into itself. And if a situation where those sorts of mutual funds totally fail, I have my stack. Because in a situation where big name mutual funds fail, that’s likely gonna be the dollar shitting the bed.

>>56150793
Well, a 50% gain over a few years is perfectly fine. But you could probably do that with something else. I get gold and silver with the expectation that when people need whole wheelbarrows full of money to buy bread, I’ll be comfortably off and be able to sustain a decent standard of living.

>>56151000
You called him a redditor twice.
Next call him a shill.
Then tell him to fud off.
Finally, to win, say he is a tribesman!
We all are behind you!
Call him a faggot again!
If you do it right, maybe he buys your bags?

>>56151042
>the cat guy switched IDs
very cool, next time be less obvious

No one sells silver for under spot, not even in emergencies. Regular coin shops pay way over spot so how would that even happen? That said, gold might be slightly better in such situation as the spreads are lower. Anyway, I just buy silver.

>>56149739
Yes, but don't buy every month. Buy only when the price is low and you can get cheapies. I don't buy unless I can get coins at under 24 euros/oz.
This also helps cut down on shipping costs, and some dealers even waive the shipping entirely if you order above a certain amount.

>>56147496
Does anyone have the picture of somebody's desk with little stone swastikas on it? I think it had silver in it and was being posted in these threads a while ago.

>>56151175
I agree, I used to do DCA at the end of every month, but I switched to just saving money and waiting for good dip opportunities.

It's obviously a good idea to have cash on the sidelines, but don't listen to people who say you must have a 401k / ETF portfolio / etc before you can buy PMs.

>>56151256
I’d actually say that you’d be better off getting the PMs before you get the ETFs. Cause if the ETFs fail en masse, you win. If the ETFs don’t fail, well, you won’t lose any money on the PMs. Obviously, cash should come first.

>>56150975
>I remember last thread where a poorfag bought fucking silver instead of having an emergency fund and had to sell below spot because there was an emergency.
>I also remember the shitty car, the calluses on his hands, dirt under the fingernails and the bad grammar.
>Financial decisions are a question of intellect, if you can't reason, you shouldn't make them.

I recall as well, see: >>56135684

That memory of yours is also a function of intellect, evidently only individuals of your rare caliber are able to encode callused worktruck-anon's question about liquidating his 10oz bars of Gold as an example of a "poorfag who bought fucking silver". Quite an exemplary display, clearly your intellect and grasp of reality is unparalleled by anyone outside the Trans community. Those pearls of wisdom you cast with soft manicured hands never once soiled by a day of honest labor are far to refined for us uncultured swine, so it would be best for all if you depart for a community where your incisive commentary will be fully appreciated.

You should really have a year worth of expenses in savings before putting money into silver. You lose 25% of what you bought it for if you went and sold it, you need to buy it with the knowledge that you’ve already lost 25% of what you spent. Which makes it a luxury investment. Gold you’re looking at being down 5% so it’s really much better. I don’t see anything wrong with grabbing $100 face value junk for the collapse and calling it quits until you’ve shored up more money.

>>56151323
exactly, lol. guy confused a 10oz bar of gold with some merc dimes.

anyone with experience ordering from libertycoin? did orders on 2 different cards this weekend. got 2 tracking numbers, one tracks and one is blacked out. maybe they shipped them both in the same package? hopefully the blacked out one doesnt matter and is inside the other package or something.

>>56151335
>You lose 25% of what you bought it for if you went and sold it, you need to buy it with the knowledge that you’ve already lost 25% of what you spent
not how it works

>>56151356
libertycoin is great
USPS is another story
i would wait a bit before panicking though. the tracking numbers can take awhile to update sometimes

>>56151323
>I remember last thread where a poorfag bought fucking silver instead of having an emergency fund
Indeed, it was gold.
The argument is valid for both.
Don't buy silver (or gold) if you don't even have an emergency fund. And if you can't afford a single ounce of gold IN A YEAR, it might be better to not buy PMs at all.

>>56150886
>Else you end up like the dudes we have in almost every thread that need to sell at a loss because their washing machine broke.
>every thread
Kys newfag
Emergency fund doesn't buy goblin pussy

>>56151405
take the L, fag

>>56149739
Physical silver is a good way to save the value of what you earn while stuck in a raunchy crooked market where banks can't be trusted. Start out with a few. Buying and holding physical negatively impacts the paper markets that manipulate the system. A catastrophically corrupt system that hurts good people.

>>56151335
> 25%
I would lose less than 2% if I had to sell some of the wieners I bought last month. And if it pumps a little bit, I'd be making a profit!
The moral of the story is: only buy cheapies. Use the volatility of silver to your advantage.

Why are we mooning?

>>56151405
Seriously though if your life is so chaotic that you need a gigantic fuckoff pile of money "just in case" then you need to
>A. Improve your marketable skills so that you can remain employable in a market downturn.
>B. Reduce your idiot behaviors, like ones that cause "unforseen" medical problems or situations where you get fired, which are virtually always 100% foreseeable and preventable.
>C. Stop dating women who are obviously suffering from cognitive problems. See B.
If you live paycheck to paycheck, this is automatically idiot behavior because you're living far outside of your means.

>>56139566
Lots of people talking about selling at a loss. Yall didn't start stacking in 2020 did you? If you did you might have to wait a while but at least you understand the value of pms. The key is not to put all your money in pms, diversify. Guns, ammo, land, other tangible assets. ETFs are ok too. Been stacking since early 2000. I love me some PMs but they're not the end all be all. Good luck and don't invest what you can't afford to lose. Just understand there is no rush slow and steady wins the majority of the time. Gold should hover around 1900s for a while if it goes below expect to see 1800s or 1700s.

>>56147471
5 troy ounces in this chunky chain

>>56151573
I do love a good chunky chain

>>56150886
you're not supposed to have a brain, just shill silver like everyone else and convince naive zoomers to buy it when they have no money and no life plan

>>56151736
nvm I didn't read this part
>>56150886
>In an emergency you sell some ETF, then gold and silver, then use the emergency fund.
lol

>>56148400 (checked)
Two dollars per grain.

>>56150975
Of course you remember, it was (((you))).

>>56151573

>>56150975
this thread is for schizos that literally think commodities futures are being used to suppress prices for the purpose of enslaving western civilizations.

the entire website exists for those same schizos.

This isn't a place for thinking. If you're capable of normal human thought you have wandered into the wrong thread, the wrong board, and the wrong website. The insane deal here, and they bet on luck rather than reason or facts. Then they curse their luck when that "strategy" fails, and use the failure as evidence to support their circular belief that "some group" is holding them down.

it's fun to watch, but don't attempt to remedy it. There is no cure they can accept.

>>56152150
>commodities futures are being used to suppress prices
this is a known, proven fact, and your gaslighting does not change it.

Average premium I paid over my stack is 15%

Hmmm, seems as if all of a sudden, IQDELETE has appeared out of nowhere to resume their kvetching.
Why do (((they))) feel threatened again all of a sudden?

>>56152150
>There is no cure they can accept.
There is no cure to being right.

>>56152173
I wonder why fudders are so aggressive today, we are barely up +2%..
Oh wait, Fed meeting about interest rates is for today, right? Might explain a bit.

>>56152173
>this is a known, proven fact,
yes, on much the same scale that people are being murdered with chainsaws and banana shipments include deadly wandering spiders.

meanwhile you guys are betting against chainsaw manufacturers and refusing to go near the banana section of the grocery store.

your fears have just enough evidence to say they're real, and not enough evidence for a sane person to care about them.

>>56152213
>There is no cure to being right.
you are incapable of even imagining you might be wrong. The thought is so offensive to your person you will never consider it, even when your own life proves it over and over again.

>>56152195
>Why do (((they))) feel threatened again all of a sudden?
could be picrel. Maybe they will announce no further increment in the short term?

>>56152150
Before long AI will be able to hack every digital bank account, retirement fund, and crypto wallet
The panicked flee to hard assets will be unprecedented in human civilization
Digital wealth, regardless of its form, will go to zero
If you don't hold it, you don't own it

>>56152224
Ok.. but what if we end up being right? kek

>>56152235
AI will likely end commerce, and very possibly humanity as well.

>>56152253
Entirely possible.
But I foresee a mid-point wherein AI is good enough to hack everyone's accounts, but not necessarily good enough to control or end civilization.
That's the period where the boomer rock holders make it.
I don't think it is very far off.

>>56152245
>Ok.. but what if we end up being right?
yes, that's the bet on luck that I mentioned

historically PMs have never gone down much or up much in value. That's the whole appeal. So if you're right, the value stagnates and you avoid inflation.

well done.
everyone else did this with real estate and stocks, and did it better than you.

>>56152261
>not necessarily good enough to control or end civilization.
we will continue to improve it until it can end civilization, and then we will voluntarily ask it to. For much the same reason everyone here is unhappy with civilization already.

>>56151527
The Fed is having its meeting, so people are buying into "Safe haven" investments.

>>56152281
It’s quite something if you think about it. Large numbers of people buying PMs on a whim just because the fed got together.

>>56152262
You are being disingenuous and ignorant on purpose, so there is no point trying to discuss with you. If you stayed around here you'd know the main arguments we advance for a PM revaluation in the near future.
But of course you NEVER EVER address those points, they are your kriptokike.

>>56152270
Well we need to differentiate between SuperAI and PrettyGood AI.
What SuperAI does it going to depend largely on how it is designed and who designs it.
Under a SuperAI the very idea of money probably won't exist, because money won't be necessary for its control.
But before we get there we will have some PrettyGoodAIs running around. And they will almost certainly be used to drain people's bank accounts, because people will design them to do so.
Spitballing SuperAI is likely at least a decade out, but I forecast PrettyGoodAIs to be draining accounts before this decade is out.

>>56152262
> real estate and stocks
That's where all the normies dumped their excess money printer fiat. So they're both effectively in a bubble now. Whereas silver (and to a lesser extent gold) have been actively suppressed via paper contracts, and thus aren't overpriced.

>>56152299
>If you stayed around here you'd know the main arguments we advance for a PM revaluation in the near future.
PMs will certainly go up against the US dollar because literally everything is currently going up against the US dollar. The US is experiencing large inflation and PM's are going to eventually catch up.

if you think the price of silver catching up to the price of labor or bread or gasoline gained you anything, you are the schizo I mentioned upthread. Meanwhile you are acutely aware you're priced out of houses and land, and you desperately hope PM's will catch up or outpace those, even though they haven't in the last 100 years and have utterly failed to keep up for the last 20.

>>56152318
things are moving very fast.
a decade til the end of humanity is nothing
>>56152321
possible, but there's no indication the bubble will burst in your lifetime, and if it does gold and silver will go down with it. You're hoping to overthrow western economics while keeping the parts you personally like. Not likely to happen.

There we go again. People replying to obvious bait. Do you people seriously think that anything you say will just make them go, “oh, yeah, I see your point”? Fuck no. Even if you totally corner them, guess what? They’ll just close the tab and come back next week.

>>56152352
I've been here since the very start.
I've been here longer than you or anyone disagreeing with me. The oldfags don't disagree with me because they know I just spit facts.

>>56152352
>They’ll just close the tab and come back next week.
are we allowed to do that?

>>56152370
all your shit is boring FUD we've debunked for years
stop posting lies and garbage and do something better with your limited time on this earth

>>56152352
even IQDELET with his annoying repetition largely states the truth. Premiums on silver put you a decade or two behind any gains history indicates you should make.

so you have to bet on something that's never happened before to think the investment is good. And you can't really predict how something that's never happened before will go down, if it even does. So basically just betting on luck.

>>56152129
Guess again

>>56152389
Realistically, I should close any and all tabs and just never interact with other people online. I don’t think anything good has ever come of it. It’s bad for my health.

>>56152345
It's already happening. The chinese gold market is decoupling from the western one. We don't really have to wait that much longer.

>>56152392
cherry picking by attrition

every single anon that learned I was right left the thread rather than stay and tell you what they learned. The only ones left are the ones that haven't learned yet. And that will always be true. Why even be here if you already know silver is a terrible investment? For me it's just to talk to my younger self and see what he's thinking. For you guys, not much time will have passed after you understand. Most of you will never admit your error, even to yourselves.

>>56152427
>The chinese gold market is decoupling from the western one.
barriers to arbitrage are reflected in local prices

chinese gold isn't decoupling, chinese paper is.

>>56152427
Why are you replying? Do you seriously think anything you say will change his mind? Do you think he’s even actually here to have his mind changed? Fuck, dude.

>>56151323
holy kek

>>56152326
brainlet take, as always.
The pricing out of housing and land is entirely artificial and is a governmental policy, nothing else. Only there to absorb excess capital from foreign nations and vampirize younger generations, to finance a ponzi pension system for unproductive boomers who now are the majority.
This is beyond bubble territory only thanks to few (((laws))) regulating urban zoning.
If we made it a national policy, we could reduce the price of homes by x5 in few years. But then, what would prop up the boomies' ponzis?
Do you know the % of the US with constructions on it? This country is fucking EMPTY. EU have almost twice the pop of the US in a third of the land space, and even Europe feels empty as fuck.

You can build an infinite number of houses with any material, but silver? There is only so much around here, and we already mined 95% of it. So enjoy your overpriced cardboard house surrounded by jeets. I'll keep my almost extinct element vital for the survival of human civilization, and we will see who will win the end : the fake dystopian ponzi propped up by dying old farts in suits, or the cold reality of overexploited, undervalued rare minerals allowing all our techs to function.

Good luck, hombre.

>>56152370
I've been here before /pmg/ and i tell you this: some silver stackers in this thread look a lot like the Gamestop/BBBY/NFT crowd. Like a lot.

>>56152389
No, that is a rumor perpetrated by left wing pinkos to cripple the free markets.
You aren't allowed to leave.

>>56152392
Call him a faggot next!
Then call him a fudder.
Then a tranny, for good measure!
Keep going, it's working!

>>56152409
Why is there no nazi gold? Are you poor?

>>56152423
And yet you enjoy the retards, admit it.

>>56152427
That is because the Chinese can't invest their money into anything, real estate is failing hard, they aren't allowed to invest in stocks in the west, so they want to buy gold. As they are not allowed to buy gold where it's cheapest, the prices drift apart.
If you think this is China winning, i have a flying carpet to sell to you!

>>56152432
Don't forget that some of us just like to look at shiny stuff, without subscribing to the silver squeeze circle-jerkers.

>>56152464
Haha, he said gold instead of silver, therefor it's all wrong!

>>56152438
The point is they no longer care what the LMBA thinks spot price is. They have setup their own market, and this is what all the BRICS will use. The LBMA will then become obsolete for the majority of the world. And once the price difference is large enough, the LBMA won't have any credibility even in the west.

>>56152470
everything you say about houses is true
it's also true of gold and silver.

you guys rightly understand metals are critical to the economy, but then ignore the fact that the economy is also critical to the value of metals.

it's fine, a few decades hoarding gold and silver for a profit well below the norm should help you out.

bubbles are created literally because that's how smart people get rich. Riding bubbles. There is no other way.

>>56152491
>I've been here before /pmg/ and i tell you this: some silver stackers in this thread look a lot like the Gamestop/BBBY/NFT crowd. Like a lot.
yep
cultish behavior and unreasonably high hopes.
>Don't forget that some of us just like to look at shiny stuff, without subscribing to the silver squeeze circle-jerkers.
yep, that's also me.
>>56152501
if their price goes up we sell them gold
if their price goes down we buy their gold

if these things aren't happening, then there's a barrier to arbitrage. In this case it's that we have to sell them gold in Yuan, and nobody trusts their paper at the moment. In fact they're trying to prop their paper up by raising the price of gold. It's not working.

>>56152529
>if their price goes down we buy their gold
>selling gold for US DOLLARS
JUSTed

>>56152491
>GameStop

If you got in early you were a millionaire. I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make because clearly it’s optics related fud. No reason to include GameStop in your example because the stock went for 4-6 dollars to 428 in less than 2 months. I buy knowing that America will be 40% white in less than 15 years. Macroeconomic trends are generational, not decided by Powell when he raises or cuts interest rates after print maxing for 2 years. Complex systems will fail and I know pragmatically that you’d have to be fucking out of your mind to think that silver won’t implode.

>>56152491
yeah man it was pretty embarrassing and cute

>>56152552
clearly they won't sell us gold because nobody wants USD and everyone wants Yuan.

clearly.

yeah honestly that guy is right, we need to stop replying to all this bait

>>56152560
Name one example of a product you can buy with USD but not with yuan.
Protipp: I'll buy my new iPhone directly in china where it is manufactured than at a reseller in the US thank you sir.

>>56145380
>>56145412
>>56145481
I was well aware of the low silver content. I bought the full set of 24 + 2 others for $800. Overpaid, but bought them as art pieces. I enjoy looking at them often.

>>56152579
the problem isn't whether you can buy stuff with it,

but HOW MUCH stuff you can buy with it.

China directly controls the purchasing power of Yuan, and currently the rest of the world thinks they've got it set way too high. Even the chinese are trying to flee Yuan right now. It's not looking good atm. It will recover, but it's going to crash a few more times before that.

>>56152529
Go ahead and try to arbitrage it then, if you think it's so easy. Do it and report back here with proofs. I'm betting you can't.

>>56152491
Richer than I was a year ago when I took that picture

>>56152606
I said there's barriers to arbitrage.
then I listed the main barrier.

are you ESL or just a bit dumb?
either one is fine, no shame in learning a new language or being a bit stupid.

>>56152506
See, that's the issue too. I'm not just here trying to make money at any cost, "riding bubbles" and scamming the nearest fool. I value my integrity and dignity, and my morals are worth all the money in the world to me.

I'd always prefer crabbing honest money over mooning crappy schemes. Sadly, not many people still have high standards in current clownworld, but some of them do, and they are here, in this very thread. That's why i don't like it much when tainted souls of your kind come trying to flex on "poor gainz" with whatever is your agenda, because you and me aren't the same. But you wouldn't get it, it's a White Man thing. Just know that all the money in the world couldn't remove this stare of disdain i've as i post this.

>>56152491
>Why is there no nazi gold? Are you poor?
is there any?

>>56152602
>China directly controls the purchasing power of Yuan, and currently the rest of the world thinks they've got it set way too high.
US controls the price of dollars, too.
>Even the chinese are trying to flee Yuan right now.
They are flleeing to gold, not USD.
And its still cheaper.
>It's not looking good atm. It will recover, but it's going to crash a few more times before that.
Whistling in a dark forest won't save you. Try to fill up your "strategic" oil reserve. Protipp: You can't afford that.

>>56152639
>But you wouldn't get it, it's a White Man thing.
I get it entirely

my biggest challenge as a white man getting rich was realizing the good christian (judaic) morality I was raised with is utter bullshit, and the people that slavishly adhere to it are taking a vow of poverty.

it's not a scam if everyone agrees to the rules. Then it's just a game. You don't like it because it's not your rules. And that's fine. You probably won't be wealthy in money, but you will be extremely satisfied with yourself and all your superiority to those filthy heathens that disregard your bronze age nomad morality.

>>56152658
I didn't say the US is doing great

I said the Yuan is looking bad

this is why chinese gold has decoupled. It hasn't really decoupled, and ounce of gold is worth an ounce of gold anywhere. The Yuan has decoupled.

>>56152662
>You probably won't be wealthy in money, but you will be extremely satisfied with yourself and all your superiority to those filthy heathens

>>56152676
You don't get it.
Yuan has decoupled buit it's still cheaper to buy gold in Yuan than it is to buy gold in USD.
It's because everyone and their mother are fleeing the USD. It's not only china.

>>56152583
You can probably get 100F commemoratives for much less. Granted they're not colorized, but there are many different designs, and they're .900 silver.

>>56152691
fair trade for most people, because even if you chose to abandon your morality, that doesn't guarantee wealth.

you could lose your religion and not gain anything in exchange. Many such cases.

>>56152696
>It's because everyone and their mother are fleeing the USD. It's not only china.
except the US

if what you say were true, people would be buying US dollars, trading them for Yuan, buying gold with Yuan, and then selling it back for US dollars.

this isn't happening because everyone expects Yuan to crash against gold, the dollar, and itself.

>>56152624
The point is, you can't un-decouple their market. Pandora is out of the box. Checkmate, americano. It's all going to be downhill for your federal reserve notes from here on.

>>56152704
You can adhere to moral standards without conflating it with religion. Noble souls existed before Jesus.
My parents were from the communist party, and i'm not even baptized. They are the kindest, most generous people you can imagine.

Actually, i consider the old testament -that i recently finished reading- as a completely demonic piece of shit book who explain in part why jews are such psychopathic, vile creatures.

>>56152719
You don't see it because you dont have crypto on account. The arbitrage is enourmus if you have the right fiat-crypto-commodity pairs.
It's literyally free money.
Think of a vaccum cleaner glued onto your cock and set to maximum.

>>56152735
>you can't un-decouple their market.
of course you can. It will happen milliseconds after barriers to arbitrage are removed. Basically as soon as china economy recovers, their market rejoins the world
> It's all going to be downhill for your federal reserve notes from here on.
not sure you understand how the dollar works.

the downhill trajectory is part of the design, not a flaw.

>>56152749
do you believe kindness and generosity to invariably be virtues? Are you a kind and generous person?
>>56152750
congrats if so. Enormous arbitrage exists in forex as well, but nobody apparently wants to touch the risk.

>>56140541
Indeed I do.
Also, got a new job, so not much time to fuck around on 4Chan.
What did I miss in these threads since the janny meltdown?
Seems like all the regulars (guess that also inlcudes me) are gone and they're really slow now.

>>56152767
Of course it's a hot potatoe. That's why you should do it with other peoples money. Pension funds for example.

>>56152752
They're not going to allow arbitrage, dummy. They planned years ago to setup an alternative to LBMA, and they're doing it. You're just too stupid to understand what's going on.
Also LMAO at your "dollar".

>>56152776
>They're not going to allow arbitrage, dummy.
Crypto fixes that. See >>56152750

>>56152771
/cmmg/ pretty much died with Lassen's reduced posting schedule. /pmg/ is less impacted but it's a lot of newfags I'd guess.

pretty much the usual.

>>56152554
Yes, and you could buy silver for less than $5 once. I'm talking about their equally stupid squeeze theory today.

>>56152610
Is that stack worth 4 ounces of gold? Pathetic.

>>56152501
That is the stupidest thing i ever heard. Why should you buy gold for a higher price for Yuan in China when you can buy gold for a lower price literally everywhere else for any other currency such as Rupees, Euros, Shekel, Rand, Croners, Dollars, Bolivars and Pesos?

>>56152773
>That's why you should do it with other peoples money
the posters here might hang you for that
>>56152776
You might be right.
Sanction the US before they can sanction you.

china doesn't seem to have an economy independent of the US yet though. Neither does russia.

>>56152802
>Why should you buy gold for a higher price for Yuan in China
Because you get free Yuan?

>>56152802
At a certain point what you would deem a squeeze will inevitably happen. It’s a commodity that’s tied to the health of the reserve currency anon. The dollar is fucked with no contest. An alternative doesn’t need to be provided because bullion is considered real money.

>>56152812
compelling reason

but is the price actually higher if the paper cost nothing?

>>56152807
>the posters here might hang you for that
Maybe they should first ask their pension fund manager what they signed up for. Didn't you read the fine print?

>>56146079
Something demand of these pieces of shit… posting all the time, something with Asterix and tintin in a vitrine and something with 6 year olds and something with time and you live in a banlieue with 80% blacks.
Did I get that right?
Yay, 4 years of learning french really did pay off!
But at least I used it as a basis for understanding more italian and spanish than I do french.
But on topic:
WTF even is the appeal of modern 333 silver? I can understand 400 junk or something, where you had to match the metal content the the face value, and of course I understand why you cant just use 999 silver and have to use sterling/900 instead, hell, I'll even give 625 a pass (pic related!), but 333? What even is it's fucking purpose?

>>56152828
I tell you there is a way to lower the cost of Yuan you get. Bad thing is - you have to figure out by yourself.

>>56152858
I'd make you my pension fund manager, you seem to have an idea worth potentially billions and you're quietly milking it.

not sure what you're doing here though. Metals are a necessary vehicle to your plan, but not necessarily and end goal. And afaik nothing you describe is illegal in the US or requiring laundering unless you're...
oh I get it.

>>56152749
>that i recently finished reading- as a completely demonic piece of shit book who explain in part why jews are such psychopathic, vile creatures

i'm bored and don't have many tickets to work on today. some of the rules make God seem very program-like. "you can't get into heaven if you do X" type of things. like logging into a website, even if you have an account, or the programmer who coded the site really likes you a lot, you aren't logging in with invalid credentials. things like this picture, being able to trick God, reinforce that idea. for instance, theres a board i go on to just piss off a couple people i don't like. this board requires a validated email for account registration, but the programmers are either exceptionally lazy or retarded. i must have registered literally 300 accounts off of one email account they banned several years ago. it's the gmail thing where you just at a +somerandomtext@gmail.com and it counts as another email address. i'm banned, but i've found a workaround.

>>56152909
See >>56152903
Gotta go. You guys have fun.

>>56152915
thanks for your posts.
very informative. Glad to see this is working for someone here.

>>56152656
Not really. I suppos the closest you could get are those 1945-1947 Swiss 20fr restrikes which would likely have melted down war booty in them
There's also this

>>56152802
I don't. I continue to buy silver and gold cheapies so long as the paper derivatives games continue. But the chinese citizens are locked into their own market. They're not allowed to buy gold from the west. They're forced to buy it at their exchange rates. And so it willl be for all the BRICS.
And then the west will have to follow suit, if it wants to trade with any BRICS. Because the dollar is going to be replaced with gold for international trade settlements.

>>56140404
do not post picture of real kids on here

there are some fucking creeps, especially some of the shills in this general

>>56153060
>if it wants to trade with any BRICS.
we have alternative options

they have far fewer alternative options.

BRICS or something like it is probably inevitable, but it's also a bit early. And when it hits, private ownership of gold and silver will have to be outlawed because we'd be going right back to a metallic standard and that never works when people are allowed to actually horde metals.

>>56153083
The pic is off an ebay listing from a large company.

you click on the little arrow by the post number and then hit "image search" button. Followed by "google." Or use the reverse image search in your browser or the native extension to google lens on the pic.

>>56153083
https://www.ebay.com/itm/123747917296?hash=item1ccff35df0:g:vsEAAOSw04ZcguIV

>>56153143
>post link

>>56153162
>>56153198
ahh thanks

also, wtf. this general is shit these days

>>56153213
>this general is shit these days
it was always shit

>>56153088
BRICS is already happening, dummy. And even the chinese are allowed to buy gold. Anyway even the americanos were buying european restrikes of 20F and 100 koronas, etc. during the gold ban (and silver never was).

>>56153213
this anon
>>56152750
dropped an easy plan to make millions
maybe billions

nobody here will do it, but it's probably the most valuable idea I've seen in a /pmg/ thread and I've seen them all.

>>56153275
>BRICS is already happening, dummy.
yes.
just like I am cleaning out my garage already

I might or might not succeed. Probably won't. Neither will BRICS. Their biggest problem is they all rely on the west far too much to set the rules.

>>56153088
Also WTF does the US export other than debt and war? You've got nothing to trade! Yo'ure basically fucked!

BRICS won't happen cuz... cuz it just won't ok

>>56153328
yep

isn't interesting that countries with stuff to sell are dirt poor while a country that only buys stuff is mostly rich?

weird how that works. Keep selling stuff though. Your country will surely get rich one day.

>>56153343
As anon said, it's already happening

it won't work, but that's a different lesson for you guys.

BRICS won't work cuz... cuz tv told me china is bad. also russia mean. and indians poo in street xD

>>56153363
>37 posts
>newfags need to do more learning
>missing the post about owning a house
This smells like bobposting

>>56153420
we get most of our customer service and software from india. Most of our products from china, and most of our gas and oil from russia.

these aren't bad places. They're places that rely far too much on selling to US to survive without US. They're our kids, we raised them. We know they're not ready to survive without us.

>>56153446
>This smells like bobposting
kek

>>56152701
I'll definitely look into them, although the particular set I bought was because I loved the sailor pin-up style art. I'm into the rockabilly look, is all.

so i'm thinking about starting to work on bu/uncirculated morgans soon. how bad of an idea is that? better to pick them up as bu or to look for lower grade graded coins?

>>56153060
Why should a citizen in India, Brasil or SA buy pricey gold in China instead of cheap gold locally or anywhere else in the world?
>And so it willl be for all the BRICS.
Are you suggesting India will not allow their citizens to buy gold where it's cheapest but forces them to buy in China, their No1 enemy?
>And then the west will have to follow suit, if it wants to trade with any BRICS.
I must have missed a few steps there. Why would anyone buy pricey gold in Shanghai when they can buy regular priced gold at home?

>>56153275
>BRICS is already happening, dummy. And even the chinese are allowed to buy gold.
Only inside the country. And we aren't allowed to sell there. That is the reason why Shanghai decoupled. That and the fact that everyone inside China wants to put their money into something not Evergrande or Yuan fast because Evergrande and Yuan are kind of fucked.

>>56153363
Well, they will exchange wares amongst themselves and pay in something else than $, that much i believe is possible. I just don't think it's a good idea for Brasil and India to decouple from $ for Yuan and the CCP boot that comes with it.
Anyway, they want to get from now 26% to 30% non $ or € until 2026. So they have plenty of time to reconsider, i think the plan is to have 60% until 2032.

>>56153420
That is literally and objectively all true.

>>56152639
This mentality will get you nowhere. The top is full of sociopathic narcissists, usually Jews, who feel justified to screw the majority of the unsuspsect population whom they believe is inferior to themselves, and the unsuspect population who will call you a fool and bigot while lining the top guy's pockets. This is how the world ultimately operates, regardless of your morality. You should pocket what you can and still use it for the greater good. The greater good just doesn't know how to invest, consider it not scamming the guy next to you, but giving it back later in the form of building a better community. A fool and his money are quickly parted.

NEW THREAD

>>56153807

>>56153458
you're just talking out of your ass, sweetie

>>56153683
>Well, they will exchange wares amongst themselves and pay in something else than $, that much i believe is possible.
they already do. The problem is the US pays much higher prices for those same wares. So the bulk of them go to the US. Banding together to raise prices on the US is just good business, but the US doesn't care about that. We can afford their stuff at 10 times the price they're charging, and if we don't want to pay that we just set up shop in some non-BRICS country and they get rich instead.

To actually offset the purchasing power of the west they pretty much need every country on board, and even then the power is in the pocket of the buyer rather than the seller. Worst case for the US is they win the trade war and we bring manufacturing back home. Which is what most working americans want anyways.

>>56153867
>you're just talking out of your ass, sweetie
on a computer made in china, fueled by russia, and serviced by india

>>56153873
>what is hubris for $500

>>56150996
Kek

>>56153980
>even hubris is valued in USD
irony

russia tried us a few years back, you guys forget. They dropped oil prices to negative numbers and went bankrupt in an attempt to end US dominance. So far that hasn't worked.

>>56154046
that's a cute wiener dog

>>56154111
Thanks bro

>>56154395
Stack silver and sausages

I DID IT. I FINALLY GOT THE LAST COIN I WAS MISSING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

my buddy got it for me. im fooking ecstatic

>>56154769
do you breed them?

>>56154832
lucky. i'm still missing that one too

>>56154832
Congrats!

>>56154832
congrats!

>>56154920
No I have a boy and girl but both desexed

>>56155077
Isn't therm "Gender Neutralized"? :)

>>56154930
i wish you all the luck finding the missing piece
>>56154990
thank ya!
>>56154995
A Thank You!