/biz/ - Business & Finance

stock market is shut, faggots. ngmi

>>56130891
Not for based HOOD users.

That's it, I'm going all in on ARM and none of you chuds can do ANYTHING about it.

It's literally over tomorrow, isn't it?

>>56130911
>It's literally over tomorrow, isn't it?
Naw, JPow is going to keep things data dependent, and the data is trending towards pauses/cuts (probably late 2024 at earliest)

>>56130911
Priced. In.

>>56130905
i eat all these foods

Really... an expert baker is bullish on bonds, like he doesn't see the 40 year cycle and all of a sudden thinks yields have topped for no reason other than he used the terms real and nigga. I would trust this guy above everything just because of the words real and nigga above any conventional metrics that last longer than a bunch of grapes left on a counter.

>>56130930
CPI is up though.

>>56130905
It is truly the smartest move, to go in on something that has already pumped a lot.

>>56130930
>Implying a freeze in the federal fund rate means the government can pause borrowing and spending.

Look your retarded, and wrong. I got nothing else, but you understand your boi jpow obviously because you can use niggerspeak so you must be a dei or esg savant that will provide financial advice to everyone for years to come.

How the Central Bankers Plan to Come After Your Assets.

https://youtu.be/r4I6uqLuJfA?si=T6ieQIWULqL2Iit3

>>56130990
Baggie, I vaguely recall you shilling the fuck out of TMF around Christmas. Shut the fuck up.

sunday's almost over
let's make big gains this week
but i'm not too hopeful
it already feels bleak

>>56131035
I knew my memory didn't fail me

>yields
I AM DECLARING TOTAL BANKER DEATH

>>56131035
2 years ago, said hold the position for 3 months and reevaluate you could have taken a 20% return on a bounce. What's your fucking point. Marry a position and assume it's all you need forever and ever? Never looking at the dynamics or how the jews have changed the cards to come?

>>56131065
>two years ago
ho-lee-fuck

>>56131057
I don't even remember if tmv or tmf is the bull or bear. Tlt is the godfather of them both, and its going to break 90 dollars before you see it break 100. And you can be thankful I use a trip so you can archive and track me on shit like this.

>>56131080
>And you can be thankful I use a trip so you can archive and track me on shit like this.
I am thankful, and wish my other contras around here would do the same.

>>56130905
I ate all of those today. Sundays are for smoking, boys. Got a bunch of hickory on the cheap too.

>>56131077
I've traded a lot of bonds. Both sides many years. I know my wallets been fatter than yours for a long time. Lol

>>56131099

>>56131113
Buy tlt calls tomorrow idgaf, I'll be on team higher yields and laughing at your underwater ass later

>>56130884
So how's everything looking for tomorrow? I'm hoping to sip Ford before a deal is reached.

>>56131142
OH BOOBA

>Did my quarterly audit today
>$72k
>By summer 2025 I should have $100k net worth
Feeling comfy guys

>>56131022
>can pause borrowing and spending.
What does that have to do with The FEDs interest rate? That isn't pushing inflation, which is all they're concerned about...
Filtered for being a tripfag.

>>56131190
>OH BOOBA
Her ugly face makes me think her pussy stinks, and I am unwilling to change this opinion.

>>56130990
Didn't you roll a doubles a few days back and promise to never come back to /smg/? Huh? Fucking retard?

>>56131296
baggot's a script kiddy his gets are always suspect

I'm going to be buying puts on CCJ upon market open. Uranium price is nearing the high from the start of the Russian invasion of The Ukraine. Follow me, my friends. Many rubles to be had on this play!
Excuse me now, while I jack off to chubby/bbw porn.

>>56130990
he's not wrong that TLT is for idiots, you might as well go place bets on WWF matches, they are more legitimate

>>56131065
You literally told me to put 20k and come back in a year. Real niggers know yields are directly proportionate to hoeflation which isn't coming down any time soon

>>56131335
Smart choice. The exuberance of the uranium shills has reached critical levels.

Goodnight /smg/...

>>56131335
Ok but the current price has nothing to do with Ukraine
Hope it works out but there’s no logic here

>>56131335
uranium is up because Mali is becoming a shitshow. as someone who follows geopolitics more than stocks it will get much worse before it gets better. more coups to come in Africa this year too. Shockwaves blah blah

>>56131445
sorry meant Niger not Mali. both are shitholes that are rapidly deteriorating though

>>56131438
With all due respect, go fuck yourself.
>>56131445
Why would Mali have any impact on U price?

>>56131456
>sorry meant Niger not Mali
Ah, yeah. I can see how that would have upward pressure on the U price.

>>56131456
This plus Niger is 24% of France’s supply and nuclear energy is a majority of France’s total energy needs, if not for that it wouldn’t be so bad since Niger is only 5% of global supply

>>56131190
>>56131212
I am contemplating the aroma

>>56131465
the thing is with this though is that sahel insurgencies will only become more powerful following these coups. so we are gonna see a reduced/cut supply to western countries like France out of spite and reduced supply overall as the government breaks down and corruption/conflict becomes more rampant.

this isn't some temporary thing that will get better as time goes on like russias production. if you study african history you'll soon notice a pattern of young officer coups that lead to poor economic decisions that end in violence in the background of a Weimar germany tier economy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentine_Strasser
here is some recommended reading. they even had their own mercenary group in country too lol the parallels are pretty staggering

>>56131456
What's the deal with Mali, Niger, and BF forming a security alliance? Will ECOWAS ever respond? It is making a farce of Nigeria.

>reading an article
>see an ad
>it’s for yacht rentals
lol this ad network thinks I’ve made it

>>56131508
Unironically the opposite. I see a lot of "Sixt"-Ads. A car rental, and in those ads the people rent a little more expensive cars, especially BMW (BMW Z4 for example). It only highlights how fucked the market is and that you can't buy this shit anymore but have to rent to stand out and feel special about your meaningsless life. If I see somebody with a more expensive sportscar I legitimately can't tell if the person is the owner of just a renter thanks to crypto and rentfaggotry.

>>56131522
Hmm I guess
I actually clicked the ad, but I can’t rent a yacht anyway. They don’t let you select “1 passenger”. I guess they have a no single policy…

>>56131534
Can't tell if it has to do with safety or they don't want to affiliate/associate with somebody who's going to rent a yacht alone.

Anyways,
>OIL
GG stockmarket

Money will rotate from overvalued bond and stock market into undervalued OIL. You can participate or sit and watch. Simple as.

>>56131490
I agree with most of this however uranium supply is already being reconsidered to avoid these issues, and considering the alternatives in Australia and Canada for example it’s certainly going to get better eventually, just maybe not soon enough for France to be very happy about it.
Also, “Africa” is too broad, and there are also examples of African sources with relatively stable governments, e.g. Malawi

>>56131537
I think they just can’t conceive of someone wanting to rent a crewed yacht alone
It would cost $32k btw, for 7 nights. I guess I actually could afford that, but I don’t want to sell my shares

>>56131057
>>56131080
TLT? TMV? TMF? Buddy I just wanna grill.

>>56131495
I think it was a semi bluff to an already gutless ecowas that permanently threw them off the idea of intervention.
ecowas was never going to respond imo. the Gambia was one thing where a president with no military backing refused to step down, this was completely different.
Nigeria needs to focus on uniting the country and finally destroying their northern insurgencies before they can think about being a regional police.

>>56131495
If they respond, it will be akin to what WW1 was to Europe, they can't do shit and the heads of this security alliance know about this, they might not give a fuck about their people but they are not dumb, lots of profit to be made in select markets.

Fuck this gay ass premarket with it's retarded bounces.This shit only happens when the market drops. Never when it goes up.
>UP
>Forms plateau
>drops
>Down
>steep drop
>Instant sharp rebound


>>56131547
Hmm, not sure if I thought it would be more or less than 32k. Crewed Yacht? So you get a crew with it? If that's the case than it's not for safety reasons you can't rent alone.

>>56131537
I can only imagine how happy those who went very long with oil since early 2020 must be feeling, too bad that at the time I was broke and couldn't ride the train.

>>56131561
I made +30k in 2 weeks with OIL back in april 2021. THEN I shorted one night before wednesday report. I forgot about it, I even didn't believe we were going down, just a small scalp, but I expected it to go up in 1-2 days. Report comes out, heemed, all gains lost. Traumatized.

>>56131561
Still went on trading it, buying, selling sometimes etc. But it was with fear afterwards. Trading with fear is stupid.

I would trade oil now after this time, but the pricecap made me not do it. I didn't want to suddenly get rugpulled because of it.

>>56131561
Most oil producers corrected more than 50% from Ukraine war highs. Plenty of times to pull the trigger on OIL still not to late.

>>56131542
they will obviously find new sources and Niger isn't even the biggest producer in Africa true.
I'm just saying that with russia the bad was in the immediate aftermath and its gotten better since then. especially with russia circumventing sanctions like a mf.
with Niger it will be way worse one year from now than it is now. also countries once thought of to be stable could have a coup come to them out of the blue. see: gabon

These yields rippin are looking to be a real bad fucking sign

>>56131190
Meh I prefer Hitomi tanaka, her tits are way bigger

>FOREIGN INVESTORS HAVE NOW NET SOLD CHINESE STOCKS FOR 6 WEEKS BACK TO BACK

>FOREIGN INVESTORS HAVE NOW TAKEN OUT OVER $190 BILLION DOLLARS FROM CHINESE COMPANIES DUE TO CHINA’S WORSENING ECONOMY PER BBG

ruh roh

>Wohnungsbaugenehmigungen brechen um fast ein Drittel ein
08:32
>Berlin, 18. Sep (Reuters) – Die Auftragskrise im deutschen Wohnungsbau setzt sich zu Beginn der zweiten Jahreshälfte fort. Die Zahl der Baugenehmigungen brach im Juli um 31,5 Prozent oder 9600 im Vergleich zum Vorjahresmonat ein, wie das Statistische Bundesamt am Montag mitteilte

-31,5 building permits in germany M/M (!!!) in JULY, in fuckin summer. LMAO over for renters (except me with ageold contract)

>>56131623
So is now a good time to all-in DCAing into YANG?

>3 years ago, the average 30-year mortgage rate was 2.98%, per Charlie Bilello. The median existing home price in the US was $294,000.

>Currently, the 30-year mortgage rate is 7.23% and the median home price is $440,000.


hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>56131592
Ah I see, in that case yes I think you’re right

>>56131668
Rent is good for the economy since it forces everybody to work, goy. Just like inflation is good. Deflation is bad!

EU probably faking it and crash in a few minutes/hours as the US on friday. Delayed bullshit happens a lot. If not, fuck EU.

>>56131205
In theory most institutions would borrow less as the interest rate goes up (so they would spend less which would reduce inflation.) The federal government isn't really doing that though, they can't seem to stop spending or borrowing at all.

>>56130905
>steak, butter, milk
jews fear the man who eats these
>bacon/ham
full of nitrates and genuinely cancerous

>>56131022
Did you drink again?

How is EU not dropping, the fegg?
Really? So the EU is done hiking and suddenly everything is alright eh? Well, I guess I am going all in then, wish me luck :)

>>56131736
Dax should drop to 15700, we'll see how long they hold it like this to lure in buyers.

>>56131736
I'm sure not buying this shitty indices. Getting way too much interest for shorting. Vice versa would pay way too much for buying and holding over night.

>>56131398

>retarded woman
>basically acts like a normal woman

hmm I see interesting

>>56131736
Wile E. Coyote moment

european opening fails to break the 200 ema on the 1min

>>56131736
Why couldn't they just dump with the US; afraid to take profits. Afraid to hold. FFS.

>>56131763
Maybe even more brutal, she probably replied to ALL comments
>we are just friends
lol

>>56131773
>the 200 ema on the 1min
you could just say it's dumping lmao

GET IN ON TTOO ASAP TODAY IS THE DAY THE MAGIC PANEL WAS FINALLY APPROVED AFTER 4 FUCKING MONTHS

>>56131629
im fuckeeeddd

>>56131773
finaly the break on the 1min

That's one algo bullshit market, exactly on the halfhour.

bump

>>56131398
cute.
>even literal retards can have a teen romance but you're a permavirgin
tickers for this feel?

comfy holds?

>>56131636
Hell yeah!!!

>>56131066
>reinversion
Stop talking about shit you don't understand. There is no "reinversion" because there hasn't been an uninversion yet.

gimmie some good non-etf oil buys. I wanna get in on this shit

Do I really need to take profits everytime it takes 10 hours to drop unless I don't want to be in red again after 10 mins of retard rebound? This practically is the EU. Takes a fuckn week to drop and rebounds in 24 hours. Bears really do not have it easy, even in a higher rate environment.

Can EU die now with our US overlords joining?

>>56131915
yeah all the europeans do is oscillate around vwap

>>56131629
Its because of rates, for funds and institutions its not effective to build anymore, increased building costs killed it too and thats a good thing, those investors are the sole reason for the high living costs

>>56130905
This is a load of horse shit. Maybe in excess but excess of anything is bad. Moderation is key.

>>56131917
EU is the most autistic bullshit. So often you see DAX just going fron one resistance to pivot, to support and back. Sometimes it stand for 20 mins 10 points away from the resistance, then it suddenly goes up, hits it and drops off 2-3 mins later. There is no actual human involved.

>>56131897
Refiners are good but they're already at a peak so not a good entry point
>PBF DK PSX VLO MPC

>>56131925
Have you seen the 3:2:1 crack spread? Refiners are making really good money.

I was long tech over the weekend

>>56131938
Lack of refining capacity helped make gasoil outperform crude.

>>56131921
Remember, you are on the internet. This is a place of extremism. Moderation is seen as cowardice here.

Anyway... so suddenly the US doesn't matter for the EU? All this time the EU indices follow th US but as of late have started to develop their own mind. Weird. Most stocks in OMX for example are in th blue.
Also, Novo is finally dropping. You guys reckon it's gonna drop more? The best stock in the EU

>>56131952
I fuckin hate the OMX, should have taken profit 9:30 and then just reshorted 10 o clock. One fuckin time I want to be patient, unlike wednesday when I took profits too fast before the crash and then they do this retardshit rebound probably only FOR the US.

>>56131948
If there was a pull back on /CL wouldn't the crack spread do even better, assuming its from production dropping in oil.

How the FUCK do I make money doing this?

Is the answer shorting NVDA stock? I hate wageslaving so much it's unreal

This is no trading session.

>How the FUCK do I make money doing this?

Doing what? Waging?

>>56132011
Wageing and DCAing into a S%P500 inxex fund. It really is that simple m8

>>56131952
I might actually start deleveraging OMX and going full DAX again. DAX at least moves somewhat rational. OMX is just crazy.

>>56132011
Trade futures, man.

I boughted BATS

I CAN FLY
I FLY HIGH
WATCH THE SUNRISE

>>56132042
Indeed. Suddenly it starts showing massive strength... Why? Only God knows. It doesn't trade on TA nor on FA since they slashed guidance yet it pumped. I guess the market is being driven by the prospects of a massive boom in the US industry since Sweden is a complete bitch to US and very much depends on the strong export. That's one of the many reasons why they are letting the currency weaken. Sweden's export industry is still booming and guess what? Most OMX consists of export whivh has only gotten stronger due to the shit currency. Companies like Sandvik, Volvo, SKF and so on really are mcloving it.
I really am loving this +7% inflation and normies still living thr high life, high on cheap azz loans.

>>56132079
Yeah, I'm actually starting to think we hit the absolute top or absolute bottom.

>>56131975
I'm not sure about that desu

kek
this isn't ominous at all

>>56131668
Lmao lol kek crash it

https://youtu.be/TSAdHJV_ZYo?feature=shared Market theme.

>>56132130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9001nAN1NI

you shouldn't have introduced me to these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH14QH9jSDQ

>>56131445
Cameco production miss was bigger than Niger breakdown imo, WNS probably helped too with a fair few insider soundbites about thin spot market (soundbites hardly unique to last week, but it's different coming from attendees at the world nuclear symposium rather than some sprott pumper tard). SMR RFPs maybe some psychological effect too

cash gang?

>>56131804
nice. premarket is up 50%+

how far up we goin with this?

>>56131335
I promise you, you will be heemed. Please post your losses this week.

>Kiew, 18. Sep (Reuters) – Die Ukraine will die Nachbarländer Polen, Ungarn und die Slowakei wegen des Einfuhrverbots für ukrainische Agrarprodukte verklagen.

Ukraine wants to sue several EU countries (you see the names) for import ban on ukraine wheat. Wheatexports are Ukraine's most valuable/highest incomesource.

Has this war become a joke at this point?

>>56132198
Ooops wait sorry, it includes corn, rapeseed (this fuckin word), sunflower oil

>>56132198
>Die Ukraine
Agreed

>>56131335
>shorting a commodity that's going up
You never know where the top is, commodities can get really silly in such situations, see Lumber in 2021.

Buying crox today is like buying Nike in the 80's.

>>56131668
>Affects only the new generations trying to get into the housing market
Sadly, does not matter at all for the stock market. Unless you got in during Covid (literally free loans because why the fugg not?), you are kinda priced out. Jesus I am never gonna afford a house at this rate, especially since I refuse to become a loan slave

Bought brap here

>>56131975
Depends on the prices of crude distillates, if they rise or stay stable whilst crude oil falls the crack spread widens.

Why are there so many newsbots on my esemge. Stop your jewish propaganda REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Just starting
Picked out long holds, I get that part easy

Itch for more and addiction starting to seed, what do I do? I am going to attempt day trading this week and probably make 100 bad decisions. How do I get hooked? Do I want to?

t. Gambling problems

>ADBE: Goldman Sachs raises price target to $625 from $550
why? What's Adobe even doing these days?

>>56132209
kys zigger. just bought more Rheinmetall

>>56132300
>Update
They'll probably make profit by the rate and amount Ukraine is wasting Leopards.

>>56132300
Good keep us posted, I want to know how much you'll be down in a few months.

>>56132079
SEK dying is probably holding it up. Should this piece of shit soon drop, I'm out. Not gonna let my Euros die being converted into SEKtrash

>Elon Musk has been called to open the company's seventh factory in Turkey by President Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish government said Monday.
What do I think of this?

>>56132254
>the crack spread widens.

Good

What happens next?

$TSLA: Goldman Sachs reiterates Neutral, PT $275.

Lowered 2023/2024 EPS estimates due to reduced ASPs and auto gross margin ex-credit. S/X prices down 15-19% on 9/1, Model Y in China in Aug. US discounts, but Model 3 prices up in Europe/China.

Source: https://twitter.com/ResFortis/status/1703718288541327488

i will not buy the bonds

>$PYPL: MoffettNathanson Downgrades to Market Perform from Outperform - PT $75
>instadumps in PM

reddy for the next #BlackMondayyy

crash predicted by Lord Buffet himself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq_6RKHJIIA

How the fuck is EU literally becoming worse and worse with each trading week? This is like trading during china hours, even during Aussie-japan hours.

>>56131804
Damn anon I remember you posting about this one couple days ago. Nice catch.

>>56132479
i bet rsi predicted all this

@56131335
>chubby/bbw porn
Thank you for outing yourself as a degenerate. I wish you financial ruin and it seems you are doing a very fine job about that yourself.

>>56131804
>MY PENNY STOCK IS UP 8 CENTS IN PM!!!
I don't care

>>56131831
Only one ticker for this

>>56132479
>MoffettNathanson
This fuckin name

good morning sirs. so what is the rule for monday after opex? will it continue to fall until we get a bounce halfway through the session ?

>>56132566
Yep in 2021 it tended to continue dumping until power hour.

>Apple rises in premarket due to better than expected sales of the new Iphones
Doomersissies absolutely BTFO. There ain't no recession. Demand is as strong as supply. People still have way too muvh money. Covid loans are still fresh in people's hearts. The middle class and above is enjoying a nice wage growth and so on

>>56131871
it has inverted, now it has to reinvert (invert again the other way). You know what I neant faggot

>>56131831
how can you even be a virgin if there are places like Tijuana, the Philippines and Thailand in this world?

>>56132659
>implying this strike won't shred enough off to make gdp negative.
>implying we won't have more rate hikes that lead to massive layoffs and unemployed bipocs

>>56131668
how do I profit from this? Mortgage backed bonds?

>>56132148
>Cameco production miss was bigger than Niger breakdown imo
very relevant point
>WNS probably helped too with a fair few insider soundbites about thin spot market
hasn't this been priced in for a long time? basically every miner I know has been anticipating this and being pretty loud about it too on their newsletters

I will buy ARM at 25 USD

>>56132709
https://youtu.be/dgcofJneJWM?feature=shared&t=16

>>56132724
>its another episode of "/smg/ picks a random stock to shill only for it to crater within a few weeks and then everyone pretends they didn't shill it"
i hate reruns

>>56132743
a few years ago when i was an even bigger retard i was seconds away from gambling on some OTC biotech stock just because some /biz/raeli told me to buy it, my broker had a technical issue with my deposit which ended up saving me because it turned out the whole product was based on fraud and the stock went -80% the next day and to nearly 0 by the end of the week kek

>>56132768
I still remember the medical etf shilling because of the gay std

>>56132566
Everyone is gonna pile into puts to protect themselves against seasonality and potential dips in october...of course it's gonna nosedive

>>56132793
also: VIX is climbing motherfuckers

>>56132743
You'd have to be retarded to buy shares at IPO

i was shorting and closed my position

Attention mumu, attention mumu!
Even Timiraos, the mouthpiece for the federal reserve, is preparing the markets for a devastating hard landing now.

>Ehm yes, hello Riskbank here. Could you please stop selling our currency? We think it's undervalued, at least by 20%. Thanks
>No, no sorry, we can't actually do something against it ourselves. Just please stop. As we mentioned, it is undervalued. Skål!

>SPANISH ECONOMY MINISTER: RECESSION IN GERMANY BENEFITS SPANISH COMPANIES, AS THEY GAIN MARKET SHARE.
Good news, everything is fine, recession is just for Germany, golden age for the rest of Yurope right now!

The absolute state

>>56132838
Kek - Germoids manufacture high tech engineering stuff, I doubt Spain benefits.

>be me
>post on linkedin
>bad things about AI
>immediately linkedin stops working

def sell signal

You did load up on shorts and bear etf's while you still have the chance last week right? I have been warning you for weeks in advance now.

>futes

How hard is it to move all of my money from a WF savings account to a Fidelity brokerage or any HYSA in general? Shit like that spooks me (close to $120k) but I hate myself for leaving it all just sitting in savings

>>56132735
>If you hate the character then that means the actor did a good job
Every time. Why are normies like this?
Also, oil is still ripping upwards. There really is no stopping this train. Bros, I am already paying close to $10/gallon for diesel. This is just gonna fuel inflation further and further

why is nvda selling off

>>56132887
The best way is to literally call fidelity and have them walk you through the process. Just be straight forward and ask if/when there are fee's. They should be pretty minimal

and I agree with you, that cahs in savings is pretty much just getting hammered by inflation. Do something safe with it like VT or VTI. And hell, even do a traditional 60/40 bond portfolio if you really want safety against downturns

>>56132838
I said it several days ago and others opposed me. South Europe will catch up with northwest. All useless refugees/immigrants want into the northwest. South has a lot of ports and a lot of potential for renewable energy (sun and wind etc). OIL refinieres, oil tankers etc.

>>56132906
Thanks

>>56132735
For the zillionth time no one here can buy swaps (and even if you could it's a crazy risky bet.)
Pick a bank that does mortgages and buy puts going into next year on it instead. I like WFC but they've been crabbing lately so I lost some of my gains.

>WHY IS NVDA SELLING?!?!?!

Do you have trouble breathing and walking at the same time?

>>56132903
because it's overpriced lmao

Pivot sisters, we feasting soon

>>56132903
>110 PE Company selling off

Nooooo how could this happen?!

Lol, lmao.

>>56132827
They're gonna have an official talk about the currency this Friday. Same old, same old. "Undervalued", "we don't understand", "our investors are all equally surprised how weak the currency is", "weak currency is bad for normal households"... and so on. What they don't mention is that most of their assets they are holding are in Euro or Dollar and that a weak currency is good for export which is Sweden's forte.
I hate this... zoo. This is literally betrayal of your fellow people but NPCs are just too dumb

>mfw FOMC is this week

>>56132933
They will pause and / or lower slowly. Why the fuck would they slash rates and unleash inflation again.

>>56132933
Recession has been here for over a year already though. Changing the definition doesn't all of a sudden make it not happen.

>>56132912
when in doubt go ask the bogleheads on their forum

>>56132933
NIce try Mr. CIO. I'm not bag shopping at the moment.

>>56132838
spaniards are well known for being retaraded and for having governaments that lie or tell half-assed truths to their citizens for political reasons.

>>56132933
>]
LMAO EAT SHIT PIVOTFAGS
>>56132938
Unironically should have got EURO. Swedes btfo.

>he didn't sell Rosh Hashanah
NGMI

>>56132911
yeah, want to know something that the south doesnt have? reliability

>>56132961
Want to know something the north won't have? Reliability, working force and cheap energy

Tute tute

>>56132975
are you retarded? south europe is facing the same aging society and lack of labourers as northern europe

>pre market

wew lads today is already a big red day lmao

>siiiiiiiiip
Yeah, I’m thinking of buying weekly puts

>>56132933
anon pivoting means that shit's fucked and stock go down

>>56132927
>>56132923
>>56132935
SOOO.. You've all loaded up on SOXS correct? What's your target

>>56132984
But there are no nonworkers who come for the sole purpose to leech off the social system.

>>56132993
When the number goes biggger than 1.00

>>56133004
you are deluded

>>56132984
Have you not read anything ? The north almost lost while holding every tactical advantage imaginable. There are 1000s of Lees all across dixie. The south subsisted on wrath alone for the last years. Tranny loving yanks ngmi

True or false?

>>56133009
How can one person sound mad about this topic of discussion. Are you a we wuzzer?

>>56133012
Those are Europeans...

>>56133012
actually slavery contributed to the strength of white people in the south
when you can't get jobs because all the jews would rather have their cotton picked by nigger slaves, you have to fend for yourself. yankees never could understand this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_trash

>>56133017
Priced in.

>>56133017
I still don't like Apple and don't think iOS has much of a future.

>>56133022
I don't think people appreciate the similarities between slavery and illegal immigration today. It's really frustrating. The old "only White men can vote" rule would have made things much simpler.

Cannabis is a safe haven in these dark times

>>56133018
no, i am someone who lives in the shithole you are trying to feed me a false narrative on

>>56133004
there were literally 8000 niggers turn up on a single Italian island in only one day this week.

>>56133040
I live in one of those north soon to be shitholes and considering moving south.

>>56133051
>They all want to stay in Italy

>>56131547
The guest # is so the crew knows what they need to buy for provisions. If you chartered a yacht it should be trivial to ask a femanon to ride with you. Hoes live for that shit.

>>56133031
america was quite literally founded as a nation of white men
if only we could go back

BOIL finally getting down in there! As I've said though, I expect it to dig well into the 40s during seasonal transition.

>>56131636
I would be if I wasn’t so bullish on oil. Probably more upside on the Yang play. Or they are scared of the Taiwan hot war and capital controls a La Russia.

>>56133022
>White Southerners of the period were used to equating coarse and disagreeable appearances with immoral thoughts and uncivil or criminal behavior

Anything after the fall of richmond, lees attempted flee to danville, The logistics bungle is kinda moot. The last army standing after lee surrender was johnstons and it was significantly smaller than shermans. The civil war is/was super interesting.

>>56131547
>It would cost $32k
If you know how to sail you could just buy a sailboat for almost a tenth of that.

>>56132903
It was a pump and dump off of a bullshit AI valuation

>>56132935
The jews loaded up on arm cheapies to also dump

2200 shares of TTOO @ $0.30. Am I gonna make it

>>56130930
>The data is trending towards
The data is trending the way they want based on the ever changing inputs.

should i buy Air Liquide or Air Products?

>>56131925
Small drillers like BORR and DO are well below 52w highs right now.

>>56133062
move to Spain. on our side we are full of european white trash (not saying you are one just stating that most of what we get here is). fucking brazilians and angolans are much better migrants than them

>>56133033
I don't think it is.

>>56131938
Crack spreads are very high right now.

>>56133097
>Air Liquide
it gives you free stocks all the time. It's pretty much the only good company in the CAC40

>>56133105
I'm greek. Spain is nice. I could speak it 15 years ago, would probably not have that much problem to refresh the language. But in my country I have a house + land so I would be better off there and then somebody would also be there to manage the stuff there.

the jewish holiday has passed

>>56131975
Setup is bearish for crack spreads with oil supply constricted and higher prices of oil eventually hurting demand.

>>56133099
Drillers aren't refiners, the profit is in refining.

>MORGAN STANLEY’S WILSON SAYS CLIENTS SEE TOUGH 2024 FOR STOCKS
It's over, for real this time, not like the other times that he was bearish.

>>56133141
Google Yom Kippur

When are we going to charge these labor unions with extortion under rico statutes?

>looking for a movie to rent on amazon
>dude, wheres my car looks good for a throwback
>primary category:
>"science fiction"

actually kekked for a good minute

Bonjour

>>56133174
>Paying for movies
>2023
Anon I...

>>56132933
Will absolutely happen at least multiple months before the election. Maybe sooner depending on how trump polls.

>>56131335
>Spot price is going up
>Buying puts
Your anus will cease to exist

>>56133187
Film is so bad they should be paying you to watch it. Paying to watch it is beyond cucked.

and gapfilled
one of these days I really do need to get myself a futures account for these retarded moments

>>56133214
I can't figure out the CME website.

>>56133147
Refiners profits are probably peaking right now. More upside in non refiner plays.

>>56133210
i cant not see ashton kutcher as the kid from stranger things the one that is bf gf with 11
now i expect 11 to come out of nowhere and be like
dude, wheres my papa?

>>56133227
It might be the wrong time to play refiners but crude is pretty high so you'd think it would get priced in across the board. If junior drillers haven't pumped yet idk if they're due to pump later.

Gonna make so much money today, bros...

>>56133242
They pumped a couple months ago, I think maybe with small cap squeeze. They haven’t moved as much as I’d expect with the current upward move in oil barrel price.

Imagine not shorting tech with every last dollar + available margin after the last job + cpi prints + recent nvda news

>>56133017
true
every whore on social media is posting about their preorders

>>56133281
lol what the fuck is the "recent NVDA news"?

>>56133281
>Imagine shorting an euphoric bubble and getting liquidated.

>>56133302
>interest rates rising
>Stock market is nearly twice GDP
>"Imagine shorting it though."
I'm not saying you should short, it's so hard to time the top. It's coming though, it might even already be here.

>>56133292
NVDA is forcasting lower chip demand due to the Radical United Auto Worker Terrorists.

>>56133306
Yeah it could also do another scam pump and you'll lose it all instead of buying undervalued stock and making money.

>>56133302
Imagine a world where retarded retail bears weren't so fucking dumb. And not just dumb, but so openly stupid that Big Money can't help but take advantage of them over and over again.

>>56133306
>Muh interest rates
You cannot be fucking serious at this point

>>56133281
>recent nvda news
What recent news?

>>56133302
Objective reality is coming some day.. just have a towel on standby

>>56133314
Prevalence of stupidity is very high.

Things are lookin' up for routerbro.

>>56130884
What is happening with NVDA I have 80 shares at 145 should I sell while I’m up why are the price targets so high like 650 -1000. I want to sell but I’m worried it could go up WTF DO I DO

>>56133333
Checked.
If you're up I would dump it.

>>56133333

good morning /smg/
>>56133329
i work in a router company too, we will probably have layoffs too
what site is this a screenshot of

>>56133306
>Stock market is nearly twice GDP
Wealth to GDP ratio is like 7. The stock market is unironically undervalued while trash like crypto, real state and alternative assets are literal dogshit garbage.
The market valuation of real state mogs that of the Russell 3000 which makes 0 fucking sense

>>56133333
They are quite literally fudding it to death to shake out retail before it takes another leg up. Cramer 101. Big Money is long as FUCK on big tech, of course they don't want a bunch of retail faggots getting a good price.

>>56133333
Market makers scaring away retail before suddenly pumping it to 700+

>>56133345
Bing

>>56133349
Oh I also forgot gold and precious metals. Companies are definetly undervalued while a bunch of useless trash is overrated to the moon and beyond. People unironically believe that New York real state or some collection of nigger gold chains should be worth more than cutting edge technology in semiconductors, food production or oil deposits that fuel the entire economy

>>56133349
>Wealth to GDP ratio
What's the argument for the relevance of that? The stock market is about funding production which is what GDP measures. What is this "wealth" measure and what does it have to do with any of this?
>real state
Lel

>>56133365
>>56133372
Ok thanks I’m gonna hold

Why the fuck would anybody manufacture anything in America, when you've got these radicalized uber left labor union terrorists who will just fuck you over through their ((collective bargaining))? Like lmao, just let the asians do it for slave wages.

>>56133365

>>56132956
yikes
now we're gonna start hearing about an immediate pivoot from the putscuck

>>56133407
1) To save on shipping
2) Small businesses will start in their garage
3) Anything more complicated than "glue these things together" needs skilled labor (I used to work for a large American company that manufactured it's stuff in Mexico, the savings there really are very marginal because fulfillment in the US had to redo QA for them.)

>>56133333
Hold till $1000, this is just a dip

>>56133127
>it gives you free stocks all the time
please explain

>>56133399
Best of luck anon

>>56133408
I don't know what I'm supposed to get out of this other than seeing Apple and Nvidia on sale

>>56133378
>What's the argument for the relevance of that?
The stock market barely makes 23% of US wealth while garbage like real state makes a whooping 30% of US wealth and cash which is devaluating quickly makes the rest (both cash and debt). You tell me which asset is more valueable than the other
>The stock market is about funding production which is what GDP measures
The stock market is a secondary market. It funds nothing, it simply measures wealth.
>What is this "wealth" measure and what does it have to do with any of this?
It measures the total nominal assets of Americans, which are mostly tied to real state and the dollar rather than what actually produces value which are companies. Saying that the market cap of the US companies is "twice" GDP is irrelevant, once you take into account that there are 7 times more units of wealth in the US than there are of production any single year

>>56133447
I think your definition of wealth might be circular.

>>56133407
Why do you post pure shit?

T-8 MINUTES

>>56133407
Well it takes time to start manufacturing. We aren't really being specific here. If you asked, why would they start that process of setting up mfg here in N. America starting today, with it being done a few years from now, well the whole big picture situation could have changed by then.

Firstly China is very highly levered and there have been many times in history where they lose their shit and kill 30 million of each other, so if we get the big end of days stock market meltdown then you have that to deal with. America is more experienced and mature in dealing with catastrophes.

Then you have oil prices, if for whatever reason they go up too much, and if sweetheart deals on China shipping go out the window, then goodbye to your business.

There is such a thing as risk you know, even now, even in 2023

>>56133456
Yeah it's amazing what can happen when the value of a currency is based on "lol fuck you", right?

>>56133407
cheapest energy and largest consumer market in the world(by purchasing power not population)

For my final trick I’m gonna throw my last $2009 into 0dte SPY calls and blow up my account

>>56133407
To own the means of production instead of leasing it from a edomite-owned asian man ?

>>56133456
>I will ignore the definition of wealth of every single institution!
Ok buddy. Once you realize that most assets are literal bricks filled with air globally and the stock market (globally) makes like 13% of that pie you will realize how undervalued stocks are compared to overvalued garbage like real state
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult

>>56133292
>FUD
>DUMB MONEY
>RETAIL BEARS
>LMAO INTEREST RATES
>DOWNGRADE HAHA
>JAPAN QE ENDING - JAPAN WHO?
>CHINA DYING - WHEN DID CHINA EVER MATTER?

I got $170 aapl puts, am I gonna make it or am I not going to make it?

>>56133495
I notice you didn't actually answer the question lmao typical

>>56133407
I mean the US produces about 17% of manufactured goods in the world, second only to China, and worth about 2.3 trillion dollars in total, so there must be some good reason for it.

>>56133503
I actually didn't even want to reply to you. No clue why I got you in there, lol

>>56133492
real estate is real. I can fight the government off of my real estate. Some cia spook can dox me and the sec bust my ass. Lets not even go into the technicalities revealed by memestonk stuff.

No one owns anything. We're just serfs passing around imaginary sticky notes.

>>56133506
It's okay, I know bears have a hard time

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>>56133492
I think real estate is probably overvalued too. But just saying "it's a tiny fraction of the value" doesn't mean it's undervalued.
ARM has a market cap of just $62.3B which is a tiny fraction of the whole market. That means nothing about whether ARM is under or over valued though because there's no rule that says any given stock has to have some ratio to the total market capitalization (other than being less than one obviously.)

>>56133507
>*Schizo rumbling*
I am sure the stocks of Bill Gates are worth less than your piece of shit appartment anon. He is simply retarded

>>56133510
Anyways, NVDA 300

>>56133507
>real estate is real. I can fight the government off of my real estate
In every country except maybe some places in Africa no one actually owns real estate, the military delegates use of it to the "owners."

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
just kidding, i love these slightly red crab days
max butthurt on both sides

KRE

>>56133515

>>56133532
I'm already up 0.04% :)

>buy mara on friday
>sell before opening today
>mara predictably dumps again after open

>>56133528

>>56133522
Wealth accumulates as excess capital keeps accumulating. These wealth instead of being produced in assets that produce real value is mostly stored in debt, cash and real state. I am just giving my opinion that it makes a lot more sense that the corporations that run the economy should have a much higher valuation than garbage like real state

>>56133543
impressive, very noice

WTF?!? meltup bros ? is it finally our time ?

>>56133522
>real estate is probably overvalued too.
It was until all western nations doubled their population in 3 years with un checked immigration. All real estate only goes up from here...

is this the bottom?

>>56133591
she buying razors for those hairy arms?

>>56133591
>your mind on 1488

>>56133554
There are good arguments for both having value. I'm not sure if there's a good argument for their relative value. The productive components of any organization have to exist on *some* land so I'd expect an expansion in production to cause an expansion in land value but that's getting pretty abstract and because of the way value works it wouldn't be easy to realize that in the realestate market.

So yes, stocks should grow faster. There isn't a hard rule (that I'm aware of) for how much faster and I think it's pretty safe to say they're both overvalued now.

why do i always DCA on the worst days
what the fuck man

MY URANIUM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

premarket was the bottom

Not usually a day trader, but boughted some BOIL in the 53s and 52s, solded some BOIL in the 55s, all within maybe 30 min. Still have some BOIL because imagine being a NO BOIL NIGGER.

spy 200 is the bottom

uranium chuds wtf is happening

>>56133634
If you're worried about missing gains you could have sold it all and just bought a medium term call.

hmmm i have about 3 years experience watching futures all the time and have developed a taste or gut feeling. and futures volatility right now suggests that we are on the verge of some kind of breakout move. does anyone concur. and i havent thought anything like that in ages, have been pessimistic for a long time

Lmao why the absolute fuck is NVDA down over 3% right now? Unironically cannot find a good reason

I was going to warn uraniumcucks but I know none of you would have listened anyway

>>56133658
Did it have a good reason to be at $500?

>>56133649
As stated I am worried about being a NO BOIL NIGGER.

>>56133658
>why is NVDA down on news?
Never gets old

>>56133658
if it can go up 25% in a day then it can go down 3% in a day. you should stifle your low quality discussion and instead start reading more

>>56133591
I can't believe some pervert would take a picture of her ass while she's bending over like that. This whole world is going to hell.

>>56133669
Did AMZN have a good reason to be at over $2700 before it split?

those swings on the vix are insane.
Can we get back our volatility so I can get finally some gainz on my UVXY

>>56133678
Wait that ETF is long oil futures. So you get 2x inverse oil exposure?
That sounds like a bad idea.

>>56133723
>>56133723
>>56133723
>>56133723
I made us a new thread. No need to thank me, just helping out with the continuity of the discussion,

>>56133720
vix is normally up a bit on monday, thats not insane its normal

>>56133708
Options on a stock you understand probably have a higher chance of profiting than just picking random overvalued stocks.

>>56133725
Uco

>>56133407
Because europe is worse and 3rd world shitholes are unreliable and their products have lower quality

Ok everyone migrated, what are the plays today? All-in UUUU?

>>56133725
>that ETF is long oil futures. 2x inverse oil exposure
NIGGAWAT

>>56133808
>what are the plays today?

>>56133871
I mean you can just look at the chart.

>>56133936
BOIL is 2x NATGAS, KOLD is 2x *inverse* NATGAS.

>>56133936
The main thing I am wondering, what reasoning would I have for choosing medium (or any) term calls over just owning the shares when options on BOIL are not heavy enough volume to have high fluidity and tight bid/ask, and when owning shares I do not need to be gonzerned with time decay nor expiration, and can pretty much know what I can buy at now and be able to sell for more later?

>>56133227
Crack spreads are far from their peak last year but still elevated compared to long term average
>>56133242
crude going up is short term bearish for refining margins

>>56133658

Because more and more people each passing day are discovering that AI is a meme and isn't ushering in the magical revolution everyone keeps touting. What you're looking at is the zenith so you should probably sell at some point since we're staring down the barrel of an economic depression and all the NEETS prompting generic coomer pics will have to sell their GPUs soon