/biz/ - Business & Finance

God bless the PM stackers.
Every single one.

>>56099234
Amen, anon. Stacking is for everyone. Gosh bless!

Hello I am a biological cis male (he/him) with heterosexual persuasion. Apparently this is relevant information when discussing precious metals. This is my silver frog.

>>56099234
not the trannies. But I guess that's a given that god hates them

>>56099272
Fuck off.

>>56099322

>>56099272
If only trannies knew that god takes pity upon suicides by granting them reincarnation into the form of their choosing.

>>56099223

>>56099254
As am I. Furthermore, if you say that I am being obnoxious and that my inserting my faddish behavior into every situation are annoying, I shall say that you are obsessed and insecure.

the salt is going to be unre- wait what the fuck is wrong with this thread?

>>56099441
>bail in
feels like that isn't getting talked about enough

>>56099449
yeah, but every time I bring it up, I'm always met with "muh fdic"
people will keep kidding themselves until the very last second when reality slams them

>>56099425
Silverbrothers it's a beautiful day to stack in peace for the wellbeing of our bloodline.
Troons don't even pass down generational wealth lmao, their stack will circulate eventually to more deserving anons.
Sooner rather than later, looking at their suicide rates and utter incompetence in self defense situations.
Delusional lgbtchuds are hilariously pathetic.

>>56099491
Unless they leave it behind to the kids they molest.

I guess since pms news is boing as af right rn we can talk about other stuff. Gender dysphoria is caused by porn addiction, and the science on this is abundantly clear. Picture is unrelated.

>>56099511
If you want to have a good laugh, catfish one of the pmg troons as a minor. Set up a sting operation. Blackmail them with evidence to give up their stack. Help them join the 41%.
In minecraft

>>56099491
You guys are playing checkers while I'm playing 4d chess.
>bond with tranny over shared hobby (stacking)
>use them as the living fleshlight they desperately crave to be
> acquire thier stack when they off themselves
>move on to the next gold and silver filled fleshlight
>rinse and repeat

>>56099585
I kneel

when the big one happens, there won't be enough f-dick money to bail out all the boomers since there's only about one penny for every insured dollar

>>56099621
>bail out all the boomers
that's part of what worries me. they really don't even have that much, and with how shit rates have been the las decade, most are way overweight equities. they're gong to get wrecked like everyone else and will be begging for handouts as they're already almost all aged out. the timing of it all is just about perfect.

Gentlemen, goodnight

>>56099653
>the timing of it all is just about perfect.
that reminds me
STUDENT LOAN PAYMENTS RESUME IN OCTOBER
>STUDENT LOAN PAYMENTS RESUME IN OCTOBER
STUDENT LOAN PAYMENTS RESUME IN OCTOBER
>STUDENT LOAN PAYMENTS RESUME IN OCTOBER
it's almost here I'm so excited

>40 million students catch a break from loan payments
>immediately get into even more debt, credit cards, auto loans
>total credit card debt in america reaches new ath
>inflation
>interest rates rising
>their new debts are more expensive
>everything is more expensive
>student loan payments resume
>mfw 40 million college educated faggots instantly go bankrupt

>>56099322
i thought you faggots would be a self correcting problem.

Jeez, finally able to post.
>>56092256
>No one here ever proposed a ratio of 1.300
>>56092572
>and besides other instances I can't recall well enough to place on a timeline I saw "1:200-1:300" proposed 2.5 years ago here.

You didn't dream it Scrapfren, this 1:300 figure was from our good old Maloney boy, in a vid where he was asked what was his personal stacking ratio. To put it back in perspective, it was in 2020 while the ratio was nearing 1:100. He even said 1:500 wouldn't be a bad idea if the ratio would once again reach 1:110+ like it did for a short period. Claiming at this retarded GSR, silver should be absolute priority, and to go back down to a more broadly accepted 1:100 figure when the GSR was hovering around 80. And finally to go for more gold if the ratio would go below 65.

>>56099460
>bail in
explain

>>56099254
Bună, sunt un bărbat biologic de persuasiune heterosexuală. Se pare că aceasta este o informație relevantă atunci când discutăm despre metale prețioase. Aceasta este broasca mea de argint.

Vreau ca Jewelryanon să facă o broască de aur

>>56099732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0H4IwnLjQo

>>56099223
which helvetia years are made from looted nazi gold?

>>56099756
>6 minute youtuber

ewwwwww. but thanks anyway i guess

>>56099730
jannies gave you a month long ban fren?

>>56099621
What makes you think the Federal Government can't simply pull an unlimited number of dollars out of its ass and dump them into the FDIC?

Book stackers reporting in

>>56099766
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8FAjp74SOvE

>>56099732
Basically it's when a bank fails and instead of brrrrr the depositors just lose all their money. This was made the law of the land after 2008, and it's what SHOULD have happened in March when those other banks failed, but our leaders were too cowardly so the fed made up a new program out of nowhere to bail them out without technically calling it a bailout.

>>56099777
isnt it easier to simply say a bail in is where a bank will cancel debts to certain creditors and debtors? aka a default/steal your money move

>>56099779
ok, yes this makes sense

god damned banksters. this is why i only have massive amounts of credit card debt and deal exclusively in furs and dabloons

>>56099770
They can! So we're looking at two possibilities when the big one happens: big yoink or brrrrrrr

>>56099832

>>56099806
I've always bet on the inflation route because it is the cowards way and also keeps the party going in Washington a little longer. But I could be wrong.

>>56099860
Both outcomes would be extremely bullish for precious metals

>>56099767
ho no, just 3 days, but it's annoying enough. Actually they banned me for no good reason the day where i posted some DD about China/Korea/Japan/Taiwan playing around import numbers by importing silver ore and concentrate rather than refined bars.
Sure they save on the refining part doing it themselves, but it's important to remember a ton of silver ore only contain 2.79gr of pure silver. Moving a ton across the ocean to finish up with only 2.8g seems rather wasteful. And we are talking about close to 1 fucking million tonnes for China alone in 2022...
More on that later, because i'm still trying to figure out few things and i don't want to go too wild on my speculations.

Meanwhile US/Canada/UK are slurping hard the refined bars/silver in investment form. Almost 50% for the past 2 years of the total production, while being only 5% of the world's population.
Found this figure a bit odd, considering stackers still are a fringe minority, even in anglo nations.
So it got my old noggin' joggin', and i try to understand where all this unaccounted for silver went. But me think asian nations are trying to stay under the radar of anglo banks at any cost by scooping silver at the source -before it could even be counted as silver- to not prop up the numbers.

>>56099370
No, suicidies end up in hell for rejecting the gift of life. People who remove their natural ability to procreate end up in hell for rejecting the gift of life.

>>56099806
Big yoiiink incoming

Speaking of slurping, i was in a kinda frenzy last week, and now everything is showing up in the mail, feels good. Especially in various lots tagged as "silver coins" where i found some rarities. Got pic rel for spot in a german lot kek. God bless the boomers who don't know what they got!

>>56099854
>>56099832
didn't notice till today you're the map poster. is that made out of fabric?

>>56099884
saving that one

>>56099914
After 3 months of waiting, something i thought was lost by the postal services miraculously showed up!
A rare silver freemasonic's Paris lodge token from 1781, back when those vipers were formenting the revolution. Notice the change of zodiacal era where the freemasons are "watering" (age of Aquarius) the soil (us, the plebs) to prepare us for the "enlightenment" of the new world order.

>>56099914
which 2 mark is that? nice find at spot

>>56099917
Yes. Map is made on a thin fabric material

Not truly PM related, but picrel showed up today. From a guy who emptied a dead boomie's house in Normandy. It's a ZF41/1, the sniper scope for the Kar98K during ww2, in perfect working condition.
And i got an extra surprise when i opened it. See the "565" number on the right? It's the serial N°. 100k of those were made during the war, and i lucked up on a very early one. Couldn't find one with a lower n° online.

>>56099958
Wilhem II of Prussia. Was minted between 1891-1912.

>>56099997
>hello Qui, i see youuu

zombie birb, for the birb enjoyers

>>56100135
w-where are you bros?

>>56099765
These claims are still disputed, but if they are accurate it would be those with a date of L1935, 1947, and 1949. Also note that Helvetia is a design pattern (found on many Swiss coins), while Vreneli is the specific name for this gold series.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vreneli
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helvetia

If non-pm Caribbean ship coins anon is still about, hit me up

otp82485@zbock.com

>>56100143
>L1935
Do go on. I know 1935 LBs are restrikes, but you're saying I could have Swiss Francs made from German gold?!?

>>56100293
Considering 99.8% of the gold have been recycled through history, you probably have mayan gold, scythian gold, pharaonic gold and pirate gold too in your old sovs.

>>56099223
lovely coins anon, here's the latest. some lovely booba i finally copped after stacking ships.

>>56099223
and a vreneli for (You)

Am I understanding right? (from my brief look at the archives and some videos):
>gold is king and will take off first during reevaluation
>silver eventually lifts off and you get more because acquiring more ounces is easier now
So then the question is whether you can make it to silver's day in the sun?
Would I be right in acquiring the gold first in the 1:100 ratio I've seen mentioned?

>>56100454
Regardless of what the frens here say it’s all speculative mate, but what makes you feel good

>>56100293
It's possible. The L1935B were produced between 1945 and 1947.

>>56100135
>>56100142
Nice anon. I like how shiny it is

What is the best round or bar for a coomer?

>>56100454
>what do i do
>tell me what to do

>>56100535
Just make sure the gypsies can’t grab your stack and you’ll be fine

>>56099693
I thought they extended it another year

>>56100610
happening this year. but i'm skeptical if it's really going to matter much. so many loans are just delinquent and always have been

>>56100454
It is a possibility, yes. But as the other fren said, it's all speculative. Some of us think Basel III, BRICS' commodities trade partnership, central banks stacking, etc.. are laying a background for a gold revaluation mutually agreed upon by big nations. This is why there is what seems to be a race between nations to slurp as much as possible, but as discretly as possible.

Silver remonetization is arguably way trickier to envision, simply because it is such a vital industrial commodity nowaday, we can't afford to have it in standstill, stuck in coinage. This was already the conclusion of JFK back in the 60s, and why he passed EO 11110, so the treasury wouldn't have to compete in the open market against industrials. But it also could be used as a powerful lever for this very reason. We have evidences companies like the chinese behemots Chengtong or MCC (both partially state-owned) are stacking silver way beyond their needs. Behind the veil (and the shitty fud here), there is a war being waged for securing the control of PMs before both a monetary reset and an attrition war over almost-depleted resources.

>>56099860
Bail ins wont happen because they can just strategically fill the gaps with printed money until they flip the debt bomb switch at their desired moment. Bail ins also put a target on the back of powerful players, it's all just inconvenient and unnecessary when they can just print money and steal from holders of the USD.

>>56100672
yeah inflation is the cowardly way to steal, so they'll go with that

>>56100505
thx fren, got it from a big lot of various coins i recently purchased. Some were really comfy.

>>56100713
... and some were fucking ugly.

>>56100713
>>56100719
>>56100142
>>56100135
these are all pretty cool

>>56099732

>>56100719
Hank?

when can i buy a house for an ounce of gold?
i'm tired of living in a shack.

>>56100672
>Bail ins wont happen
They do happen

>>56100468
>>56100667
I appreciate the pointers. I have been wondering just how certain things end up getting reported or rather how accurate certain information is. On one hand there are those who put a lot of effort into getting around secrecy, but on the other hand many tactics are known so decoys are a concept.

>>56100719
You got the ugly dude. Don't worry, everyone gets the ugly dude. You will get used to seeing him.

>>56100818
No, he's right. 0% it happens, it's just a threat used by the big banks as a way to keep the gubment hostage. And an excuse for the gubment to agree with everything the banksters ask for.
>oh, you don't want to gib me an extra freshly printed 500,000,000 trillions like in 2009? Well too bad, i guess i'll have to plunder the accounts of my 50 millions customers, leave to Singapore and let your police forces deal with the fall-out :)
>t. JPMomo

>>56100868
>No, he's right. 0% it happens
Cyprus did the Bail-in not too long ago.

>>56100846
>this pic
VITTUUUUUU
You suomi i presume? How many oz of commemorative coins do you have kek??
I got maybe half a dozen or so in said lot i purchased. As long as they don't have the face of a random old fart, their design is pretty cool from what i've seen.

>>56100879
Yes, that's how threatening institutions/people works : you have to make an example first to prove you can follow up on your menaces.

>>56100898
Kek, I'm just an ebin larper. I just happened to save these 2 pics a finnish anon posted months ago. I think the coins are pretty cool! He said they're all 925 and he got them from a local boomer. Otherwise I don't know anything about these.

>>56100931
>I'm just an ebin larper
fuuggg

It's over for you guys.

>>56099223
my pic is in the OP for perhaps the third time
>>56091002
>>56091456
here check this out. fucking hate restrikes. non restrike dos peso is still on my list

>>56100818
Bankers have homes, like anyone else.
I'm sure the population they've harmed will notice.
Millions of people who have been robbed by bankers.

Hey...

>>56101092
helo

>>56101060
>he doesn't want Third Reich gold redistributed by the Swiss
Gayyyyy!

>>56101167
All the gold in circulation today has been recycled over the millennia. It's like water that once went through the kidneys of a dinosaur. Likely every post world war two coin/bar in your stack is some part Hitler part Napoleon part Charlemagne part Alexander

>>56099254
Where can I get one?

>>56101184
Brah, do you even mine?

>>56101184
>All the gold in circulation today has been recycled over the millennia
You made the claim, now prove it. The idea is nice but seems like speculation at best.

>>56101196
Gold production has ballooned only in the past five decades as it was just not economically viable in the past. It was much easier and cheaper to just melt down and coin your enemies' gold supplies.

>>56101188
jewelryanon makes them, you can gmail him by putting jewelryanon in front of @gmail.com

>>56099585
But I don't want to put my peepee in there.

>>56101211
And what they’re just throwing away all this newly mined gold?

>>56101184
>>56101196
>>56101210
>>56101211

>>56099370
They become trees according to Dante

>>56101152

How are you today?

Am I going to make it?

>>56101378
i don't think it's a good thing when you're measuring your stack in grains

>>56101378
who the fuck sell this shit? And WHO the fuck buys it kek? Is it 3.50€ per pack?

>>56101343
Well.
I got some extra silber recently.
Some personal projects are coming along nicely.
I hope things are going well for you.
Blessings in your endeavors.

>>56101445

Thank you.

>>56101444
I've bought similar - pic related.
I packaged them in boxes with frankincense and myrrh as Christmas presents for friends.
Felt good - one of the better Christmases.

>>56101487
How much per grain-card? If over 5 bux, i'd rather offer them a silber quarter or 1/4oz Noahs for the price... At least they can fondle it.

>>56101378
>>56101487
What is a "grain" in weight measurements relative to grams? Is it the same as grains of gunpowder?

>>56101520

Why is it crashing so fast? Do I need to buy now or can I wait till the morning

>>56101554
For me I spent about $3k during the day while watching prices go up and down and really at the end of the day who cares if I overspent $100 or something really. It's all going to be worth more later anyway. I just don't recommend drunk purchases but they do seem like better ideas in the morning.

>>56101520
>What is a "grain" ... relative to grams?
1 gr = 0.0648 g
1 g = 437.5 gr
1 ozt = 480 gr = 31.1034768 g
Dunno if it's any different from the unit for gunpowder.

>>56101510
>How much per grain-card?
I don't recall, other than it was too much. But you know - gift. One doesn't care as much.

I'm so grateful I finally could afford a 5 oz bullion and they sent me a good one too

>>56099902
Hell is an impossibility of reason. The world we live in is an impossibility of reason.

>>56101332

They become whatever their hearts true desire is. And they are born into a supportive family and society that has universal basic income and everyone cares about the important things.

It’s the religion of rebirthment, and I’m starting it just for trannies who are considering suicide. We must acknowledge their suffering, and let them know relief is out there.

>>56101765
Regardless of an afterlife or anything like that treasures will always be something you leave behind when you die no matter what. Helping people succeed using what you passed to them with good intentions is all that matters when it comes to "wealth".

>>56101545
>>56101605
Thanks for the qrd

>>56099738
English please

>>56099254
>>56099425
Based

Please feed the tranny, thanks.

>>56099254
I too share your fetish for sexual intercourse for procreation, and just like you, i think it should be said in the context of /pmg/ because it defines what i am 100%.

Trace amounts of 24k gold on my record player.

>>56099419
Sweet chicken coins!

>>56099491
You need a treasure chest. Go to Etsy, pick something for 100€ or so, you can thank me later. :-)

>>56099511
Brutal!
Funny.

>>56099585
>Putting your body into a festering axe wound
I respectfully decline and continue living on nothing but real pussy juices absorbed through my intact foreskin.

>>56100719
Jesus Christ, this is only topped by the East German silver coins.

>>56102134
This is my poorfag treasure chest

>>56102158
It opens up nicely

>>56102158
>>56102165
Not bad :-)

>>56102192
It is pretty bad. But I like it. It's more a functional place of storage than a serious safe or fancy chest. Found it in a thrift store.

>>56102204
I'm wondering what it was originally used for because I have never seen lockers that open up like this.

>>56101378
Twinkle twinkle little bar...
look how small and cute you are.

>>56101223
They all have a mouth, and they are all so starved and desperate for love and attention facefucking them would be like proposing. They are mentally ill, they will let you do terrible and depraved thing to them and see it as love.

>>56099832
>>56099854

What's the book, anon?

how come platinum and silver cost twice as much as the stock market graphs say?
gold is better, it's "just" 20% more expensive than it should be

why?

>>56102393
Anon...if you are buying plat and silver at twice spot and gold at 20% over spot you need to scroll back to the top of the page and take a other look at the bullion dealers section. I'm not sure if Apmex is selling for such ridiculous markups.

>>56102393
The heck are you talking about? Investment coins can be bought for 1.5 to 3% premium.

>>56102312
You are quite literally as mental ill as the Transsexual men.

>>56102422
i'm in the EU, and buillionbypost from the pastebin is where the prices are least retarded

>>56102485
i'll check those out

>>56099254
It is weird that the trannies felt the need to lets us know they are/were trans.

>>56102370

>>56100143
I thought it was only L1935 desu

>>56099950
Very cool, anon.

>>56099756
thanks for the vid. pretty hectic desu.

>>56099223
>Vreneli
Reporting in

Bump

>>56100818
But this example of Cyprus just illustrates the point because Cyprus uses the Euro and is therefore unable to just print more money to cover losses. They had no choice. Countries that use the Euro are under central control. This is very important in order to understand why the BRICS will have to turn to gold.

If several nations get together to issue a fiat currency like the Euro, they need to agree to control on the creation of the currency. If they leave the member countries free to print at will, the whole scheme goes up in smoke because there will be a direct financial incentive to be the first country to inflate. With inflation, the first to get the new money wins and the last loses.

The BRICS, being far more diverse and, let's face it, more chaotic, hostile, and incompetent than the Euro nations, will have a very hard time agreeing to a central authority to control issuance of a new fiat currency. The only solution is to issue a currency that is inherently limited by redeemability in a commodity. Given the history of precious metals and the fact that all of the BRICS have relatively large gold reserves, points very strongly in that direction. So-called baskets of commodities won't work.

Anyway, the case of Cyprus says nothing about what a country like the USA, that has open access to the money printer, will do when pressed.

instead of buying coins I've turned to buying old jewelry and melting it myself into little chinese golden "ingots" or as the chinese call them: yuanbao

I find it quite a rewarding process

>>56102809
What is the appeal of Chinese culture?

>>56102808
That doesn't have anything to do with me proving that bail-ins have happened in the recent past.

Forget about all the concubines the silver will buy us. How to find an unvaxxed virgin wife? I'm getting old. I want to settle down desu.

Are you stupid yanks still asleep? Wakey wakey!

>>56102495
I would never actually be crazy enough to stick my dick in that anon

>>56102957
What bitch im getting ready for work

>>56103019
How to find a virgin unvaxxed wife?

>>56103019
i'm already hard at work

>>56099585
so you're playing the short con?

>>56099585
AIDS. No thank you and god would not approve.

>>56099585
You're gay, you are just negotiating a price.

>>56102878
My point is that the example of Cyprus is irrelevant to the USA because Cyprus had no choice to do a bail out because it couldn't freely print Euros. The USA can print dollars at will. Cyprus could not print euros at will. So they are totally different situations. Show us a case where a country that had unlimited access to fiat money creation chose to confiscate bank accounts rather than just print more money. Then you will have actually made a relevant point.

>>56102664
I like the coin, really like it, but 6 to 7% premium is too rich for me.

>>56102808
>BRICS have relatively large gold reserves
USA and Germany have more gold than all of BRICS+ combined.
Tiny Italy has more gold than Russia or China.

They don't have enough gold to facilitate all their business, their combined economy amongst themselves is just too large.
So the BRICS currency can't be backed by gold. Estimates say it could be backed by up to 3% gold, the rest is good old "credit".

>>56102840
It's not the evil west i guess. I can see no better reason.

>>56103110
What makes the West evil is the implemtation of Chinese mass surveillance and indoctrination methods

>>56103024
You don't, you live with the pain of loneliness but try to be happy

>>56103110
Yes, USA has more gold plated tungsten than any other country. If you trust the fed to hold your country's gold, I have a bridge to sell you.

>>56103108
Fucking hell anon, my original point was proving that bail-ins do happen, which was an argument against the notion that bail-ins never happen. You're trying to beat me down with a situational argument that I'm not even arguing against. Give it up already.

>>56103142
Don't make me slit your throat.

>>56103180
But your example is irrelevant. Here, I'll state it clearly for you: Bail-ins NEVER happen in countries that have unlimited ability to print their own currency. Prove me wrong.

>>56103110
You don't understand how commodity money works. China alone could issue a gold-backed currency tomorrow. The market will adjust the exchange value of the gold to meet needs. Commodity money is self-adjusting.

>>56103208
And I've already shown that policy has been implemented to do bail-ins if nations choose to. I really do not give a flying fuck about your technicality, especially when I'm of the firm belief that central banks will do gold revaluation instead to prevent a liquidity crisis and bank collapses.

Again, give it up already.

>>56103208
Fren, don't insist, i think he may have the retard...
You couldn't be more clear and concise, if he can't grasp such simple concepts, he's also too dumb for the rest of your explanations.

>>56103330
Oh I grasp the situation about any nation with a central bank will just inflate the currency away rather than doing a bail-in, it's only you and the other anon that seems to think I'm arguing against it with my example of a bail-in, which was only to prove that bail-ins have happened in recent years against an argument that bail-ins have never happened. Knowing this and still trying to beat me over the head about America inflating away over bail-ins only says one thing. You've extreme autism.

so then i guess no tiny bremen today :(

>>56102957
I'm on and extended vacation (unemployed, lol)

>>56103150
BRICS+ hands typed this message.

>>56103110
>USA and Germany have more gold than all of BRICS+ combined.
wow if thats true then the USA should have no problems doing an audit of fort knox right

>>56103110
They can set any exchange rate they want. There can't be not enough gold.

>>56102808
>The BRICS, being far more diverse and, let's face it, more chaotic, hostile, and incompetent than the Euro nations
it's cute people throw around terms like "incompetent". last I checked, china and russia weren't dealing with unimaginable waves of immigrants from africa

>>56103876
imagine how competent we must be dealing with all those immigrant negros

>>56103876
>>Authoritarian systems tend inherently towards incompetency and corruption.
>Yeah? So? What about waves of immigrants?
Geez Chang, you got us there.

SILVER SPOT IS DUMPING!

TIME TO STACK?

i don't appreciate sellers who use this grading. wtf is this supposed to mean? ef to bu is a big jump, isn't it? au / unc, etc

>>56103955
Definitely looks like slurp territory to me

>>56103110
Your BRICS fud is lame. You keep posting the same factoid about how much gold the USA, Germany, and Italy have as if that makes it harder for the BRICS to issue a gold backed currency when in fact the opposite is the case. It isn't a golden dick-measuring contest except in some weird "America Fuck Yeah" nationalist stupidity. The more widespread gold reserves are among commercial nations, the EASIER it is for the BRICS or anyone else to monetize gold. If everyone has some gold, remonetization is easy. Everyone just pegs their currency to gold, in accordance with how much gold and outstanding currency they have. Voila! World gold standard.

As for how much gold the BRICS have:

China is the top gold producer in the world and on top of that has been buying gold at record levels. Nobody outside the CCP knows how much gold they have, but it is plenty and increasing rapidly. And they are not buying it for jewelry. The Indian people are estimated to have 20,000 TONS of gold in private hands. South Africa, Russia, and Brazil are all three top-10 gold producers. So the idea that BRICS don't have enough gold is just wrong on the facts.

Additionally, you should remember that the value of money is a product of supply and demand. When gold is remonetized, its value will increase as needed in response to demand. So there really is no minimum quantity required. Your thinking has been twisted by MMT propaganda.

well, they did deliver it today and it's in pretty good condition. i like the no dot look better. i'd like to find a 5 rm version that is dotless, but those are super rare.

>>56103931
>>56103935
lol have fun with the niggers, retards

>>56103876
But those waves of immigrants in Europe and America are the people actually RUNNING the BRICS! I'm not trying to put a polish on the governments of Europe and America. They suck a big donkey dick. But I think the chances of the BRICS doing something like the EURO are very low.

>>56104105
i don't know if it will "be like the euro" but all that matters is if they come up with a system that allows them to stop relying on US dollars. and i doubt anyone can stop them from that

>>56104100
have fun not having your path crossed by an extremely buff overly aggressive nigger

>Elizabeth on the reverse
>struck by Perth Mint

Explain yourselves Straya

Spot is down, but the dealer's website is offline for maintenance.

>>56104179
The jews be jewing

i hate VAT i hate VAT i hate VAT

>>56103799
Dubs of truth.

>>56104051
>Nobody outside the CCP knows how much gold they have, but it is plenty
I'm sure it is so much plenty, it's double plenty! But we don't know. But it's plenty.
>China is the top
TCHYNA NUMBAONE!
>the idea that BRICS don't have enough gold is just wrong on the facts
Except for the facts that say it doesn't have enough. But we ignore the facts, because BRICS+ NUMBAONE!
>When gold is remonetized, its value will increase as needed in response to demand
The cheapest seller determines the price of gold. Not the one that thinks it's worth the most.
>factoid about how much gold the USA, Germany, and Italy have
das rite, facts my boi, now you make love longtime to my colored schlong
>It isn't a golden dick-measuring contest except in some weird "America Fuck Yeah" nationalist stupidity
Keeps saying TCHYNA NUMBAONE because it has all the gold, but it's not about the amount of gold, but China has so much, but it's not a contest, but they have so much it's even PLENTY!
>South Africa, Russia, and Brazil are all three top-10 gold producers
BRICS NUMBAONETOTEN!
Most gold ever!
CHINGCHONG PIUNGPONG

>>56103035
Exactly
>>56103056
No one alive today truly follows the scripture, every single Christian or catholic cherry picks and follows what's easy and convenient while ignoring things that would require even the smallest of sacrifices.
>>56103083
If im trading sex for stacks of pms, that might make me one of the most expensive whores around

>>56104327
Stop complaining about VAT, you'll make your VAT back when you sell.

Went to the grocery store this morning for some basic household essentials, mostly food stuffs.
*EVERYTHING* cost at least *DOUBLE* what it would have cost me a year or so ago. Not even exaggerating.

Value of the USD is really tanking in relation to real goods? Or is the chokehold on goods & labor driving up these costs?
Not sure what to make of it. Inflation? or Dollar devaluing?
In light of this, it seems Silver spot price is relatively low?
I don't know, the strange times get even stranger

>>56104327
European detected. I feel your pain and have given up, 225oz has to be enough.
Waiting for a gold dip, because picrel.

>>56104364
We talked about this, show the sell and buy prices in % over spot for investment coins in Germany.
They sell spot + 5% + 19% and buy spot.

>>56104327
Do they still charge it if you buy on something like eBay?

>>56104380
>if you stack silver to protect your wealth against the death of the Federal Reserve Note, you will lose valuable Federal Reserve Notes when you go to trade your silver for Federal Reserve Notes

>>56104377
>Not sure what to make of it. Inflation? or Dollar devaluing?
you know those 2 are the same thing, right anon?

>>56104355
>Not following vs following whatever I can
Whatever will I choose?

>>56104350
unfunny racist jokes will not stop what's coming. but i understand that's all you're capable of

>>56104350
Hahahaha! Now I see what you are. Have a nice day.

>>56104433
Easy to see him for what he is now. When his "arguments" were exposed, he fell back on grade school taunting. Filtering now . . .

>>56104429
God probably respects atheists more than a pussy ass buffet-style pick and choose christian

all the small fat man with swords have rim patina and it is annoying me

>>56104433
>will not stop what's coming
What's coming is BRICS+ will start a fiat currency and that is that.
The nations using it will have the exact same problems they have now, but in addition they are under the boot of the Chinese Communist Party.

If you want to continue to make money you will have to deal in $ and € because that is what we pay you with, Chang.

>>56104440
>that's lacist
>Filtering now . . .
Chang is offended.

>>56104452
Why do you want approval from god now faggot?

>>56104377
a lot of it is companies simply realizing customers can and will pay more, so they charge more. corporate profits are sky high right now.

but of course, nobody wants to talk about that. because it goes against muh free market capitalism efficiency mantra

>>56104514
>a lot of it is companies simply realizing customers can and will pay more, so they charge more. corporate profits are sky high right now.
Indeed. Prices in German supermarkets are falling right now. They haven't reached pre-inflation levels, but the basics are almost back, meat, milk, eggs, flour, oil, bread, butter. All that stuff is almost back to pre-covid levels.
Energy prices continue to fall to, particularly natgas, as European reserves are filled up to the brim. It's not down to pre-war, but it's down a lot.
The problem now is that large men in the middle pocket the difference.
Aldi is pocketing the difference between cheap tomatoes from the producer and selling them for 3€ the kg in their places.
McD is having larger margins than pre-covid.

>>56104614
Lol food is not going down, get real

>>56099585
Your financial gains will be taken away by your subscription life of PRep or anti-AIDS drugs. Straights with children will buy your stack when they find your corpse.
>”wat dis, father? Mares?”
>”this coin was owned by a tranny, son?”
>”wot dat?”
>”man made horrors beyond comprehension, son
>but they went extinct in the Great Reset when the troonshine ran out”

i don't know who has what, but i know what i have- gold.
tangible, shiny, glorious gold.
and i want more damn it!

>>56104713
Prep is free

>>56104723
Based gold enjoyer

>>56104705
10 eggs 2€, 1l milk 1€, 3kg bread 6€, 1l sunflower oil 1.8€, minced beef 9€/kg.
These are pre-covid prices.

Platinum right now has 134,000 ounces in comex registered (sellable). October (2 weeks away) open orders is at 2.9 million ounces. Sure futures contracts can be cash settled not physically settled but I'm still bullish! Don't say I didn't give you guys a heads up.

>>56104713
kek

>>56104723
High premium man is back!

>>56104760
Official stats say you still have 10% mom. Until that number turns negative, you're paying more.

>>56104769
Not for food i don't right now.
Maybe it's only caviar and avocado toast?

>>56104377
It's a combination of things.

Currency inflation
Sudden jolt in fuel prices making food transportation more expensive
Russian sanctions driving up prices of artificial fertilizer
Net Zero agenda being poorly implemented by climate fanatics
Arrogance of a globalized world not coming to bite countries in the face

Now we've just got to wait until national energy infrastructure is built to make up for that shortfall, but building things like Nuclear power plants take over a decade to get up and running, and things are going to get more expensive with migrants flooding the west and competing with the natives over resources.

>>56104377
It is over for you westoids

Purdeh

>>56104380
>We talked about this, show the sell and buy prices in % over spot for investment coins in Germany.
>They sell spot + 5% + 19% and buy spot.
Not really, they buy for way over spot. Spread is 1.31€, or ~5%.

>>56104847
it's over, burger bro

Redpill me on scamdium.

Can these 1.5 oz canadian coins work ok with standard 2 oz capsules?

>>56104723
Nice to see someone understands.
>>56101487

>>56101223
>fuck trannies for silver now
>suck cock for silver later
the choice is yours, anon.

>>56101378
maybe for a day or two....

I did not realize my made up fuck trannys for thier stack joke of a scenario would stir up so much shit lol. God I love you guys.

>>56104994
It's a scam

>>56104994
>Meriam Webster Definition

scamdium: crytpo coin is its raw form before being mined

Are cheapies about to disappear?

>>56105564
Yes but in exchange you get to be a millionaire

>>56105607
Cheapies disappear. You get to make one more order. What do you choose to add to your stack?

>>56105634
Already made an order yesterday but I expect to make more. It's not the end quite yet.

>>56105634
With the money I have available now? Probably a single Mercury dime. I just made a decent silver order, so if I had more funds I guess I'd squeeze in as much gold as I could get otherwise.

>>56105634
probably 1 last AGE

>>56105678
nice

>>56105044
Their standard 1 oz is a better choice, dont waste money on irregular sizes.

>>56105564
Ha! No wonder the BRICS fud has his little panties in a bunch!!

>>56105564
yeah at this point it's looking inevitable
everybody loves a good arbitrage

>>56099223
BUY BUY BUY the comex is smashing the price

>>56105564
Eh, mint anon, You there?

We could do with those crusaders being posted right about now.

>>56105915
i know right, kek

>>56105786
I wanted to buy a painting of cows and some backpacking gear, but now I may need to slurp up a final order of cheapies.

>>56105749
I don't have easy access to many of those canadian coins. It's basically just what's on Acheter-Or-Argent.fr and they sell these 1.5 oz coins for cheaper than the 1 oz coins. I mean if you calculate the price per oz, that 1.5 oz polar bear is 40.75 (27.15 euros/oz) compared to 34.31 euros for the 1 oz grizzzly bear and similar 1 oz coins.
So even if I have to buy a 2 oz capsule, it still comes out cheaper than buying 1 oz coin.

>>56105915
He was last spotted at an international airport, he was wearing a cowboy hat and standing with another gentleman. Their flight was going to thailand

How many gold and silver Ozt should have a good stack?

>>56104853
What's the reverse look like? Obverse has the unimportant bits on it.
>>56106338
20 au 1k ag

>>56106098
>Some people call me the pace cowboy ~
>Some people call me Mintyyy ~~
>Weeeooop- weeeoooo ~~

>>56106365
>>Some people call me the *space* cowboy ~

>>56106338
get 100oz of silver and 1oz of gold (as 1 piece, not fractionals) to start

i decided to just go ahead and order that 5 rm albert

>>56106338
50 Ounces of silver. (2 25 ounce tubes of silver maples. And 3 ounces of gold. Preferably American gold eagles, maples or gold britannias

>>56106474
I don't think fractionals are necessarily bad. It depends on which ones you buy. 1 gram is not good, and probably not 1/10 oz either. But you can find sovs (7.32 g) and 20F (5.8 g) for decent premiums. He should compare prices. Here's a simple shell script for calculating.

#!/bin/sh
c() { echo "scale=5; $*" | bc ; }
echo "sov : " `c 31.1/7.32*$1`
echo "20F : " `c 31.1/5.8*$1`

>>56106555
and i don't even feel guilty about it :)

>>56106593
Agreed. The LMU coins are attractive, historically important, and often are a good bargain.

Everyone, i just bought a Krugerrand for 1821€ inclusive shipping. That is 1.5% premium with shipping.
Always wanted a gold coin to fondle.

>>56101605
>1 gr = 0.0648 g
>1 g = 437.5 gr
>1 ozt = 480 gr = 31.1034768 g
These numbers don't add up:
1 g = 437.5 gr
480 gr = 31.1034768 g
wat!

>>56106593
true, if you want to go historical that's ok. i was only advising against generic fractionals.

>>56106593
How much premium do you think is acceptable?
I set 3% as my upper limit with shipping.

>>56106626
>>56106593
>Bullion value: USD 735.64
why aren't these recommended more? the still seem like a decent fractional option if you want larger than 1/10, something not super common, and something that's new. not saying they're the best deal but they don't seem horrible

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15434.html

>>56106637
You are correct as to new bullion.

>>56106663
No reason. I'm just not familiar with it.

>>56103110
>premium
i paid no more than $374/ea for mine. works out to be equivalent to just over $2000/oz i think
i dont feel bad

>>56106634
Yikes - I had a brain fart (not that uncommon for me, alas).
1 gr = 0.06480 g
1 g = 15.43240 gr
1 ozt = 480 gr (by definition) = 31.1034768 g

Thanks for being aware and speaking up.

>>56106648
I don't really have a hard limit on the premium itself. But I fixed my upper limit at 1800 euros/oz. I simply don't buy anything whatsoever above that.
I bought some krugerrands this summer, when the gold prices dropped. I've spent most of my savings now. Pretty soon I'll have to switch to buying 2 rand coins, british sovs, or 20F. In any case, my limit remains the same: 1800 euros/oz.
Maybe I'll have to adjust this number later on, when gold prices start to climb. For now it seems like a good guideline to keep me on track.

>>56106663
Would get if I could find it for reasonable in Burgerland

>>56106474
>>56106576

I have over 1200 Ozt of silver and around 20 Ozt of gold.

Silver: 1 Ozt bullion, historical silver 900-925 coins, junk 800 silver, 1Kg bars....

Gold: 1 ozt bullion, fractional: mostly Sovereign, 25 pesetas, 20 francs...

>>56106474
>>56106593

It's funny becaause today I have bought the tiniest Gold coins in my collection so far: seven 2 1/2 pesos Mexican coins. Almost at spot. Not even 1%.

>>56106663
That coin comes out to 2001.80 euros/oz, and I've never seen it anywhere.
By comparison, this dealer has sovs for 440 and 2 rand for a little less. It comes out to 1865 euros/oz.

anyone know what this is? got it with some Morgan's from my grandpa's collection

>>56106842
that's a very handsome stack indeed

>>56106338
>a good stack
As much as you can afford while still living comfortably with a good buffer of fiat for emergencies.

My "How much" recommendation pasta:
I'd say about 6 month's total expenses (more is better) at current prices. If your needs per month in US$ come to:
2,000 for housing,
300 total for water, sewer, utilities, trash, natural gas
300 total for internet, cable, phone.
300 for food,
100 for gas,
x? hundred for medical insurance (about 700 in the US)
x? for car insurance (maybe 50)
400 for groceries
200 for 'other',
that rounds to about $3,600 (without the x? unknowns),or 2 ozt/month,
so at least 12-15 ozt gold or maybe 1k ozt silver or mixed however you prefe

>>56106887
looks like one of those cool shipwreck coins, but not sure

Pretty doompilled today, frens.
While listing coins for sale, i noticed i purchased a lot containing a bunch of silver plated cupronickel coins. I got fooled because they have a silver counterpart, and a silver plated version, that i wasn't aware about.

Back then i checked a bunch of the coins and they were ok so i didn't weight them all, big mistake!

I tried to send them back for "wrong description", since they all were sold as silver, but the (((seller))) refused (didn't know it was possible on ebay, is it because it's been too much time? order was sent 1st of August..). Do i have any recourse or am i fucked?

>>56106944
the cheapies giveth
and the cheapies taketh away

>>56106950
kek

>>56106950
Bruh.. i'm too poor for the taketh away part.

>>56106876
>It comes out to 1865 euros/oz
Mathematik: Das Normative des Faktischen.

>>56106887
Not sure, but it looks like a cast replica of an ancient greek coin, can you post the other side?

>>56106944
Sometimes you eat the bear.
Sometimes you get eaten by the bear.

>>56106944

>>56106944
>Do i have any recourse or am i fucked?
You got damaged because a seller sent you the wrong item.
You give the matter to a lawyer and let him apply the law to this situation. Depends of course on how much you got damaged.

does anyone know what determines how much cartwheeling a coin has? a lot of older coins seem to have a lot more of it than modern bullion. older libertads are another good example of it in addition to these marks.

>>56107103
In weight it's a bit less than 3oz total, i wont start a legal battle for less than 60 bux..

does anyone know what determines how much cartwheeling a coin has? a lot of older coins seem to have a lot more of it than modern bullion. older libertads are another good example of it

>>56107053
yes, here's the reverse. I'm not sure how to interpret it, maybe a tree?

>>56107156
it looks like someone's sticking a bird. you can see the bird's feed and his head is turned back pointing down at the stick that is poking into his body

>>56107103
>lawyer for eBay purchase
You boomers are so knew jerky. He just needs to open a case with eBay, they always favor the buyer.

>>56107156
Looks like an Athenian owl that got impaled on a tree branch.

>>56106887
>>56107227
the impaled tree branch is probably supposed to be the olive on one side and the lettering on the other side
maybe a counterfeit by an illiterate with poor engraving skills

My new treasure chest has space for days.
I'll spam it tomorrow in all it's details.

>>56106944
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy?id=4210#not-described
>Latest:

>30 calendar days after the estimated or actual delivery date or within the seller's stated returns window, whichever is longer
depends on when you received them, if it was less than 30 days ago you can still file through ebay. If you paid with paypal, you can file a dispute through paypal within 180 days of payment. If you paid with a credit card you may have options detailed in your contract.

>>56107544
start getting it filled up! what are you waiting for

Never have 10 rounds made me so happy.

>>56107624
Coins, actually. Even better!

>>56107624
need one of these
my most recent acquisition is also a fun themed round

>>56107654
No, coins are pozzed. Modern ones anyway.

>>56107156
Yep, that is a rather poor and inaccurate cast replica of the Athenian owl tetradrachm, looks like it might be good silver though. Any other "ancient" coins in your grandfather's collection?

>>56107746
damn. thanks for the info anon, though it is disappointing. at least it may be silver. maybe I'll take it to the local coin shop and see what they think.

>>56107545
Just went on ebay, and even though my request was dismissed by the seller earlier this evening, ebay's customer service automatically opened a dispute on my behalf for a refund.
So i guess i still have a chance, never had issues before and ebay always sided with me (as a buyer), but usually i open a ticket right after the delivery of the faulted items. Here it's been 45 days since it showed up in my mailbox..
Wait and see i guess, i'll keep you updooted on the matter.

Been a pretty shitty month so far as a buyer, between the guy who ghosted me after i won his auction and refuse to send, the cunt who tried to swindle me with her plated trash and opened a dispute claiming i damaged the returned item (probably was mad at having to put her finger into my shit lol but fuck her, ebay sided with me and i still got my money back), and now the not-silver coins sold as silver i noticed too late..
The cheapies' game can be exhausting at times!

>>56107746
>>56107788

but no, no other old coins like that. the rest he left me was just Morgans, '64 Kennedys and Frankin half dollars.

>>56107156
kek, it's so fake it's almost adorable in it's own way.

Scrapchads… today I join your ranks. 50 cents for a solid sterling ashtray at a yard sale. Haven’t weighed it yet. Swiss Army Knife is for scale. Definitely 5+ ounces with a HEAVY base.

>>56107624
based. i got a shrek too, for the memes
and yeah, it's a genuine coin. not a round.

>>56107941
you should probably include the picture in a new thread you start

>>56104350
Settle down shlomo
It's too late to stop what's coming

new
>>56108006
>>56108006

>>56107941
>Scrapchads… today I join your ranks. 50 cents for a solid sterling ashtray at a yard sale.

Sounds awesome congrats anon, please post pics, an ashtray that heavy must be unusually high quality