/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56079375
Not really.

>price barely keeps up with inflation
>can’t sell to anyone (who the fuck buys ammo from some random dude, probably some crappy reload that will explode in your face)

It’s only worth it to stock ammo if you actually have guns and shoot it

>>56079391
Also I have a 308 rifle I want to sell and have about 1k rounds of m80 ball and it’s gonna be a pain to get rid of the ammo without taking a bath

>>56079391
>can't sell to anyone

Are you serious? Ammo is more valuable than gold in any kind of shtf scenario or economic instability. SWIM sold thousands of dollars in ammo during the last hurricane and during the past election. Ammo is more liquid than crypto and precious metals

>>56079447
Why would I buy ammo from some random dude who might have fucked with it

>>56079474
I highly doubt that some random dumbass is selling thousands of rounds that he personally fucked with. Look at the packaging and look at the ammo and you will know if its been reloaded or not

.223, basically the new .22lr

>>56079375
JPG's?

>>56079537

thanks for the post? Do you want a reward for that insightful input?

>>56079375
this is what hoarders say. now everyone has a gun and the used market is always flooded

>>56079375
Who else /M855/ here?

>>56079375
get your wife or gf some big fake melons. $10k for a lifetime of motorboating. if things get tough it also improves her business opportunities

Ammunition has a shelf life.

How is this a good investment? Bullets are free (paid for by the tax payer) and are wasted on a daily/hourly basis.

You do serve in your local militia (guard) and have access to armories, right anon? America was built on premise that all men are in their local militia. You’re not onions and stay at home instead of defending your family and your actual neighbors, right anon?

>>56079571
I have 30-06 ammo that was made during world war one. It shoots just fine and has great accuracy. Its over 100 years old.... but you sound like an expert so I won't use any more facts to back up my argument....

>>56079570
Women rapidly depreciate in value. They have like 10 years in their prime at best. I would lease, but not own one.

>>56079375
Silver is a scam and silvertoshi is a scammer

>>56079375
Any point keeping my ruger .22? Seems like it would be useless for about anything but hunting rabbits or birds and I don’t do that shit.

>>56079624
I’m not buying her for sex I’m buying her for motherhood you degenerate quasi-homosexual.

>>56079644
when it comes to firearms only buy never sell. You should keep the ruger anon, benefits of .22 is that you can carry lots of ammo in small spaces

>>56079651
>motherhood

Yeah good luck with expecting a modern women to raise your seed. Kek. Get the rainbow flags out ready to drape over its crib

>>56079624
be careful bro you gonna end up dying alone with no family of your own if you don't change your ways

>>56079594
Yeah I bet you shoot it all the time, it's .5 MOA and never hangfires...LOL

>>56079678
if stored properly ammo won't go bad in your lifetime. Shit Ive shot 9mm from the 1980's that was stored in a humid florida garage for 35 years. It was fine.

>>56079375
New Mexico brap farm Epstein style

>>56079644
A .22 is part of any complete gun cabinet

>>56079571
Technically yes but it's going to be longer than your lifespan in most cases so it's irrelevant

>>56079569
M193 is better

>>56079517
Even if you can sell it, it’s not a good investment. I bought 1k rounds of PMC xtac for $300 in 2011 and that’s about 430ish now. That’s basically just keeping up with inflation

>>56079770
The industry standard is a guarantee for one decade. After that it's all down to storage.

>>56079876
I haven’t had issues personally. I’ve shot 20+ year old 223 with no misfires. Best is to cycle the old ammo out if you’re worried but that’s not really necessary unless we’re talking multi decade time frames

>>56079828
Heavier bullet is better for shorter twist rates. M855 has better ballistics for 1in10 or less

>>56079571
Lol. It lasts longer than you will live if stored properly

>>56079474
Not just that to the best of my knowledge no ammo would give you 10x within the time span Crypto assets would give you the same.

>>56079901
Yeah but the point is that inherently older ammunition will depreciate in value compared to the value of new. Purchasing 20 year old ammo will, while probably fine, still have a shorter shelf life than new.

>>56080588
Reason why I dump it all on EVR then wait to see how it'll responds in the next bull market, it's VR/AR technology is a top notch

>>56079375
My timing was impeccable with ammo and that's all I'll say about it. Not telling.

>>56079375
You can make bullets out of silver.

>>56079651
>motherhood
Lmfao. Gardasil made sure that won’t happen for the majority of women born from 1996 onwards.

>>56080939
EVR?? I recently saw their Zealy campaiggn on the Zealy board while participating in the SpoolFi zealy campaign.

>>56081215
Oh yeah, poorfags will be able to earn huge bags of EVR and secure a special IDO spot.

>>56079571
So does the Sun. Shut the fuck up

>>56079447
Prepping with ammo in the most stable country on earth is pretty fucking stupid.

The real investment is owning a bullet press, casings and the means of making your own powder, because that's a lot cheaper than buying junk ammo from Turkey and claiming you have "an investment".

>>56079447
only if you gonna sell it to thirdworlders but you gonna get fucked by traffickig and assraped by bubba in some federal ´prison

>gives hint
>it's the answer

I truly mean this from the bottom of my heart when I say kill yourself.

Hey I used to make that ammo.

>>56081333
>he thinks federal is made in turkey.

Ngm.

IIRC anyone interested: Vista out door is splitting off and will be giving free stock out to anyone holding. You'll basically get stock both from the outdoor side and the ammunition side. I don't work there anymore so take with this info how you will: Ticker: VSTO

>>56081333
>Making your own smokeless powder
kek goodluck

>>56080588
Not just about 10x anon, Crypto also enables users earn passive income regardless of market conditions. I'm already doing that on a few like Ldo, Dua and Near in the space.

gold and silver a pretty good, but so are bullets. but they take up alot more space and can get corroded if stored improper

but take advatage of the retailer rebates

https://www.winchester.com/Rebates/2023-Winchester-Hunting-Rifle-Ammunition-Rebate

https://store-yqqkx.mybigcommerce.com/content/2023%20BRN%20September.pdf

>>56079447
>>56079474
>>56081321
>be you
>arrive in parking lot to sell ammo
>buyer requests to examine the merchandise, loads gun
>get shot
>no ammo
>bleed out on the asphalt
Selling ammo is probably the most dangerous transaction one can do.

>>56081321
>Sleep when stable, prep when chaos.
Never change biz.

>>56082700
how is this any different from the possibility of getting shot transacting any other good?

>>56082746
Because other goods don't require the presence and handling of firearms.

>>56079375
>investment
How is ammo an "investment"? At best it's an insurance policy for some ultimate doomer scenario. Insurance is fine, but insurance is not an investment.

>>56082798
but if a guy intends to shoot you couldnt he bring a firearm and bullets?

>>56079429
>it’s gonna be a pain to get rid of the ammo without taking a bath
you've obviously never sold ammo, it sells way easier and quicker than you can imagine

>>56083023
dont poke the retard

Investing in an Aero L-39 Albatros can be a wise choice for several reasons. Firstly, it serves as an excellent platform for jet pilot training and gaining high-performance aircraft experience, making it attractive for aviation enthusiasts and aspiring jet pilots. Secondly, the L-39's agility and capabilities make it a sought-after aircraft for aerobatic performances and airshow participation, potentially offering opportunities for income generation. Additionally, its historical significance and classic design contribute to its potential as a valuable collector's item, with the possibility of appreciating in value over time. Finally, it provides a unique and exhilarating personal experience for those who are passionate about aviation, combining the thrill of flying with the satisfaction of owning a piece of aviation history.

Plus you can live your Top Gun larp.

>>56079391
I wanted to get into making crappy reloads but then I thought "Man.. Who the fuck wants crappy reloads?"

Even if there's a strong market for them, the thought alone put me off so hard.

>>56083023
>couldnt he bring a firearm and bullets?
He'll bring his firearms and use YOUR bullets. Why do you think he's contacting an ammo seller?

>>56079391
>>56079429
>>56079474
>>56079859
>>56082700
>>56082798
>>56083023
retarded. bring a pair of pliers and pull a random cartridge apart to inspect if you're that paranoid about bad handloads
>>56079560
guns != ammo, especially in 2023. pic related are shitty steel cartridges with dirty powder and primers, but they kept down the prices on good brass rounds. now with Joe Biden and Russia's war, they cannot be imported into the US anymore
>>56079571
ammo will easily keep for a century or more if stored in a cool, dry place. throw it in a sealed box and forget about it
>>56079447
>>56083030
this
>>56079656
based

>>56079644
Most abundant ammo in the world.
In a world of guns and no more manufacturing, do you want to limit your most abundant option?

>>56081321
>most stable country on earth
Forgotten the 2020 chimp outs already?

>>56082433
DUA in your list got me nodding in agreement. In case you didn't know, it's used as a catch-all gas fee for all transactions within the Brillion wallet, making Web3 a breeze

>>56083136
Why do you think an ammo seller wouldnt have a gun of his own to protect himself?

>>56079375
ammo goes bad

>>56079375
oil and gold.

>>56079375
>small pistol primers are currently $250/1000
>the owner of my local gun shop literally hasn't seen or heard of a single over-the-counter powder sale in the last 18 months
>factory 9mm is something stupid like $45/50
Fuck Australia, seriously.

>>56083948
>ammo goes bad
Said literally no one ever with a gun full of investment rounderinoes in it

>>56083923
He would. The point is that post SHTF you are likely to do business with desperate criminals who have a gun but no ammo. All they need is one of your rounds.

This is how Victor Bout got started

>>56084132
Ah so you're just retarded

>>56084135
>Hello, I would like to buy one round of ammo for this gun
>No, I won't need a receipt

>>56079375
T. Sexless chud
Teen kids will get rich buying eloncumrocketinu while you are stuck holding some useless metallic trash thinking mad max is coming

>>56083948
>>56084162
>t.noguns

>>56081321
sir

>>56081321
Between 2016 and 2021 the world watched as niggers burnt down and looted countless cities across the usa. It is known that one adverse event can trigger a massive chimp out at any time

>>56084135
>gun owners wait until they are entirely out of ammo to purchase more ammo
You dont own a gun.

ITT:

>>56086955
>the us government would conduct itself exactly the same with 400 million privately owned firearms as it would with 0

>>56079375
I used to work at Federal Cartridge before the Blount buyout. It was a great place to work.

Clinton is responsible for most of the fucking price surge in ammo. First, that faggot got the EPA involved in the whole "oh no, we've got lead in the berms at every military base and it'll leach into the groundwater" (meanwhile entire rivers run over galena deposits and have no issues) so it started the entire "green bullet" program. I had a cushy fucking job working in a great office with TWO secretaries with giant tits and now I'm all over the fucking world sourcing shit. Lead free primers from Russia. My company forgot me and left me in Barnaul. I'm in a shitty town outside of Pittsburgh looking at sintered copper bullets made by an asshole who wouldn't even let us watch the process of sintering the goddamn shit. Then, the faggot decides he's a ballistician and fucks up everything. Frangible ammo was such a fucking mistake early on. Turns out that LEAD is the best goddamn bullet core that ever existed.

I've got some whacko trying to make casings from Zytel, blowing up receivers in Mississippi. The lead free primers are worthless and packaged like typical Russian bullshit and blew out the corner of one of the storage depots, nearly killing 3 workers.

There isn't an industry quite as full of shit as the ammo industry, fellas. I've worked in it for 40 years now. BUY THE FUCK OUT OF IT.

Pic related. This is an H&K CAWS 000 buckshot load that I took home a box of in the late 80's. This one I left out on my shelf so that people could look at it. It was an insane solution in search of a problem.

BUY AMMO

>>56084383
>it's the fault of the people who are victimized by capitalism not capitalism itself.

Makes sense.

>>56087122
Niggers will just find any excuse to target whites. They have been ((((trained well))))

>>56087217
You're brain dead beyond belief

>>56079375
Crypto is going to settle my life all I need is just one token that goes to the moon and I think QANX is going to do that fir me as it just launched its private blockchain.

>>56079375
Learn to make your own one, retard.

>>56079375
Truly unironically how would one invest and liquidate this? Like are we saying that there is a few thousand dollar cap on my investment like ppl are saying here? If so that's just not worth the time. Could I buy 25k of ammo and safely and reasonably find a market to unload it in later? And where would one buy that much ammo? And also how much room would 25k worth of ammo take up? That just seems like the minimum to make it worth it with all the hassle

>>56087458
Ammo is more liquid than gold or silver. It is also great for bartering.

>>56086937
>gun owners
CRIMINALS you dumbass

>>56086955
Not giving up my guns euro trash

>>56089043
All gun owners are criminals?
Or do you mean criminals differ from gun owners in that they wait to run out of ammo before purchasing new stuff?

>>56089299
Imagine a gang robs a gun cache, or loots the guns off their victims. They have a lot of guns, but no ammo.
Who is the obvious next victim they should focus on? Ammo seller.

>>56089364
>Ammo seller.


ENOUGH OF THESE GAMES, AMMO SELLER

I TELL YOU I AM GOING INTO BATTLE AND I REQUIRE YOUR MOST POWERFUL AMMO

>>56079375
I just made a thread on this on /k/
I inherited about $100,000. How much ammo should I buy. Should I buy 5.56? I don't even have an AR (no where to shoot long range where I live, don't really need it.)
I'm wondering what and how much to put in this.

>>56086972
>>56089223
Kek every time I post this image I always get a few seething mutts

>>56090084
if you don't already shoot just buy like 5k rounds and replenish as necessary

>>56090118
So really not that much. I used to shoot pretty regular before prices went up. I still have a case of 1000 fiochi 9mm from 2019 I never opened even though I got it cheap because the replacement cost is high. I only started again because my cpl came up for renewal and I realized I probably can't hit anything with my carry gun.
I really should buy a .22
It's retarded I don't have one.

Pic rel
Pure profit.
>Investing your own money
NGMI

>>56079570
Fake tits are no good for the long term

>>56086988
Checked