/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56063435
Are you looking at a flat screen or a touchscreen right now?
Your welcome.

People who think only chinkers make things expose themselves as poorfags who only buy crap and plastic shit lmao

>>56063435
Western countries spend $$ for real goods.
China then buys up our land.
Western countries let them, otherwise $$ would hyperinflate.
$$ are soaked up through land.
This makes life impossible for ordinary western workers unless you are a middle man or speculator.
Fuck this system.

>>56063494
That was made in Korea or China, not in a muttistan factory.

>>56063435

Yes. In January 2024 there is a Taiwanese presidential election. If KMT loses and Democratic party wins, the mainland will start a war. That will be the final blow to US led world order. It doesn't even matter if they would take Taiwan or not. If they manage to deal a damage sufficient enough to destroy TSMC, then China wins. US isn't self reliant and China has unlimited Russian natural resources thanks to Biden and Jewlensky. It's over.

>>56063512
West sells debt and China buys real estate assets like real estate and gold. When the Chinaman decides enough is enough, they will pull the plug.

>>56063435

America's tip sectors are financial services, Healthcare services and retail services

>>56063508

show me 3 electronics that you have purchased that is MADE IN USA. you stupid larping nigger

>>56063532
Don't forget to tip your financial servicer.

>>56063435
The USA exports the service of the USD.
Other Western countries basically export nothing which is why Europe's so poor.

intellectual property and the advanced manufacturing techniques you need to make anything at scale whilst still working and being profitable. and as a byproduct the place to dump most of our waste and polluton.

>>56063624
This. The USA exports dollars. That’s it. Other countries want dollars, and only we can issue them. Most debt worldwide is denominated in dollars. You want to pay your debts? You need to buy our dollars, or trade your goods for them.

>>56063624
Europe is the richest and wealthiest region in the world retard, unlike muttistan our citizens get to enjoy free healthcare, free education, walkable cities, high quality public services, highly available public transportation systems...

>>56063664
>muh free healthcare!

every single time any comparison is made some europoor comes in with the free healthcare mantra, I would rather pay for US healthcare then die of cancer like Euros do lmao, did you know the UK has a cancer survival rate that is equal to that of China's?

>>56063664

What is your stance on EU, immigration and jews?

the globalism project was a post-cold war attempt to civilise you after the brutalities of communism and instead of seeing the light you've taken advantage. tbqh whichever coalition of parties in the west tell you all to fuck off, reshore manufacturing and do what is necessary to secure resources and cut you off before the new wall goes up will own our politics going forward.

>>56063435
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>>56063664
the us is vastly more wealthy than the eu whilst still funding the largest and more capable military on the planet. were the us to ever leave nato and europe to it's own devises it would at best be at a level of wealth and power of small asian nations and under control of either the russians, chinese or both.

>>56063664
>our citizens get to enjoy free healthcare, free education, walkable cities, high quality public services, highly available public transportation systems
I am a europoor unfortunately and my public services are definitely not high quality. I have to pay huge taxes for the "free" healthcare that's so slow to access and limited in scope that I have private health insurance anyway.

>>56063694
>the us is vastly more wealthy than the eu whilst still funding the largest and more capable military on the planet. were the us to ever leave nato and europe to it's own devises it would at best be at a level of wealth and power of small asian nations and under control of either the russians, chinese or both.
And THATS why America is so bothered about pipelines in Eastern Europe and parking its planes and radars all over it

Not because, you know, Europe would otherwise outpace the US or anything. Same with cheyna. All just coincidences.

>>56063721
>Europe would otherwise outpace the US or anything. Same with cheyna. All just coincidences.

lol, lmao, how many top 100 tech companies are from Europe again? Maybe 1? The EU has no tech industry, their car industry is being killed by regulation, even your universities aren't being cited, what does the EU even do anymore?

>>56063694
if it were to try and replicate the military advantage presently given by the us (it won't, and can't, it's population is too short sighted to begin hedging such a possibility now and once it did happen it would be so unprepared the situation would have moved against it long before it convinced it's sneering voters that actually you need a big stick) those nations who weren't the "evil usa" would have made their move.
>>56063721
at nation state level all there is above you is being brutalised or being the one to do the brutalising (or camping under the umbrella of those that can do that).
your kumbaya singing and shouts of hypocrisy won't ever change that.

the us is absolutely right to invest in anything possible no matter how underhand to ensure firstly it stays not only in front, but far in front, and secondly cuts any attempts to challenge that position off at the knees. the best outcome alternative is a return to the cold war and the worst is a reversed monopolistic geopolitical situation where china calls the shots in everything, an no right thinking westerner wants that.

>>56063435
It’s all intellectual property (channeled from satan via tabistock mind trauma), with basic materials mined from slavery (africa, Asia, South America), refined and assembled in Asia for cheap labor, and imported for final assembly in Mexico and then brought in to usa for consumption/purchase. Anyone who gets out of line or doesn’t play ball gets the spear of destiny until they fall back in line. You seeing this in africa vs France and nato vs Russia and china. Europe and usa are the first and second beasts in revelations.

>>56063735
>maths and computing
these are useless.
see who leads in material science, for example.

>>56063435
The US tech industry is literally the world leader, how much software do you use that isn't made by a US company?

>>56063758
>with basic materials mined from slavery (africa, Asia, South America)
ey ivanchange, you're the one running around both continents with your unfavourable loans (to them) and mercenaries exploiting the entire show.
at least we try and cia the governments and instal some form of stability so they can profit off being used as giant resource farms (most of the time).

>>56063782
I didnt know Samsung was american

>>56063793
Samsung barely makes the top ten on the worlds tech companies list, what are you talking about?

>>56063793
south korea exists because of a great deal of western blood spilt and the ongoing protection it is afforded for making very good electronics and asian pop culture (soviet era infiltration of institutions in order to steer hostile nations is very good, it is responsible for the culture wars in the west today, but is still inferior to the mass americanisation of the planet including in the hostile nations.

>>56063664
Europe is built largely on post-colonial exploitation. If they had to pay fair prices for the resources they extract from Africa and Asia, and had to go without African and Asian debt payments, they'd be insolvent.
>free healthcare, free education, walkable cities, high quality public services, highly available public transportation systems.
All of this stuff is good, it should just go to the people who actually produce wealth, not the exploiters.
>>56063435
We still manufacture cars and export food and energy. But mostly we're a service economy built on value-adds to work done elsewhere (and skimming money off the top of as many transactions as possible through financial chicanery).

>>56063435
I work in a factory that manufactures printer ink.

>>56063851
Explains what has happened to their culture today. Would you want your daughters to be inspired by these people?

>>56063987
it's an easier sell that pushing religion or the fauxtrad aids, poverty and prostitution that is the reality in the brics. it ain't perfect but at least those girls attended formal education and didn't grow up in a famine where if they survived the 50/50 chance of birth there was a good chance they'd be eaten like a starving dog.
thirdies are brutal, barely human, we don't want more of them.

>>56063435
>What the Fuck does USA or any western country for that matter produce?
look up ASML. its the most important company in the world. and its european and american.

>>56064011
Good point but ultimately they are still slaves to a different system. Pick your poison, I guess. I actually spend 3 years in Southwest China witnessing a lot of that.

Seeing the other side is very eye-opening. Seeing people survive on the equivalent of $300 a month is very eye-opening. Also, PPP is a bullshit metric...

>>56064015
you look at the origins of these companies and there is no history written. a dude named Arthur del Prado started a company called Advanced Semiconductor Materials in 19 fucking 64 and there is nothing on his background. how you become a guy that has that sort of pre-alpha knowledge should have books written on him.

>>56064077
oh yea i'll sit here defending the west but will happily say our leaders have seriously fucked us over in the last decades. the alternative is still far worse and fuck any naïve western manchild who says otherwise.

>>56064100
Yeah I basically agree. I am going to support the place which gives me the highest earning power as an individual which is USA. Earning power is what matters, everything else is smoke and mirrors.

>>56063435
The US makes a lot of shit but not really any one specific thing. Even after sixty years of dedicated deindustrialization efforts, the US still exports more things than most countries. You can start by scrolling down this page so you stop looking like such a schnook.

https://oec.world/en/profile/country/usa#latest-data

>>56063664
kek europoor education is so bad they can't even do simple math these days. tell me is 35,000 greater than 14,000 dollars? The thing about math is it doesn't care about your (wrong) preconceived ideas. Stay in your eutopia the civilized world is full.

>>56064132
yep and despite all the hype around Chinese imported goods into the US, they only make about 15% of US total imports, Canada and Mexico are the US's largest trade partners.

>>56063664
LoL you'd have no welfare social democracy without the US military propping up your weak bitch countries.

>>56063435
>ctrl+F "oil"
>0 results
the USA is a big producer and exporter of crude oil and refined petroleum products. It's the fifth biggest exporter of oil exporter, and the biggest exporter of refined petroleum products in the world.

>>56064192
石油国家

>>56063435
Here you go OP. Multiply the percentages by $2T (annual dollar value of US exports) to get the dollar amount.

/thread

>>56064192
the west also supplies either in ip, manufacturing, tech or consultancy, the entirety of the knowhow for thirdies to locate, extract, process, refine, store, ship and distribute the riches they believe they use to control us.

>>56064192
I said energy.

>>56064236
we're trying to maintain a fine balance where we call the shots but you make enough to not get so butthurt you internally collapse and go crying to russia or china completely then end up as an xmas charity gig sponsored by u2 with out investments destroyed by nogging out and setting all the wells on fire again, but whilst also getting that edgy teen anti american thing out of your system.
its hard, you're all very difficult because you love the system but hate it's not your dads sisters cousin fucking tribal leader enabling it.

>>56063435
All of the machines that are used to make your shit in factories, aircraft, machined parts, design all of the software and hardware in computers, engineer basically everything that gets outsourced and manufactured in thirdie countries,etc

>>56063435
Everything isn’t imported.

>>56063664
Can't tell if bait or average 14 yr old Euro ESL

>>56064318
japan managed it, south korea managed it, singapore managed it, chile if it doesn't go retarded managed it as did mexico. hong kong almost managed it but for western ideals of upholding contracts like a civilised human who understands property rights even after a century.
anyway i'm out. fuck thirdies and fuck the brics+hangers on. tie yourselves to the yuan, go full cold war and we'll see you in 50 years.
fucking people who live under corrugated iron we developed to keep rain off pigs acting like crabs in a bucket lol you can't even basic utilities.

>>56063664
None of that is free. It’s paid for through your taxes. If you don’t pay many taxes I could see why you prefer it though.

I mostly buy chink shit and russian gas which are for some strange reason still traded in US dollars.

Also I use Mastercard for buying crypto.

>>56063435
I am no longer a wagie, I am now a hermit.
locking myself in my house playing nfts games like duck race was a good decision, I rejected my humanity (my chains)

>>56064924
there is a word for your kind that better describes you than "hermit"
you're a NEET

>>56063435
Another retarded doomer post. kys

>>56063494
I'm using a CRT

>>56063494
I'm using a film projector

>>56063435
Don't know about your neck of the woods, but 'round here we export an awful lot of feed 'n seed