/biz/ - Business & Finance

>futures

i hate dracula

if crypto developers want to do something useful they can invent a token whereby thirdies wishing to post on the american internet (probably some butthurt about how a white man hasn't shown them how to use shoes because of cuts to foreign aid or how some russians sister was sold for $3 not $4 to a mexican or whatever grift their working this week) they have to pay a tribute in thanks for creating and securing a global system that has quite literally put clothes on their backs and show them how agriculture and medicine works.
once paid the thirdie may post one (1) text based comment with a 50 character limit. they can then return to work for another six months to save the $1 needed to post another.
takings will be pooled and handed out equally as a dividend on independence day every year.

Baking.

First for NVDA dumping to $100/share EOY

>>56042506
I hate you too, faggot.

Is this the thread?

>>56042549
Vampire General? Yes

>futures

>>56042532
What would the actual reason be

Hard mode: you can't say "overpriced"

>>56042565
>What would the actual reason be
Everyone would find out they don't actually make their designs.

>>56042549
Lmao I read your id as ‘i see nigger’, a brown one as well.

>>56042549
No, this is Patrick.

I was the first to post baking and there were 2 generals baked by the time I posted link

shout out to gme anon, you better be taking some profits you lucky bastard

>DIS

love sitting here being incredibly bullish about the USA on a wednesday evening.

>>56042571
WE

>>56042565
Oh you haven’t read about coreweave being NVDA and Blackrock’s shell company and how they’re involved in a giant money laundering scheme that took place during the pumps and dumps during the pandemic? These institutions need a way out and they’re pinning it on NVDA. 3 trillion dollars needs to be ‘cleaned’ and added to their portfolios.

imagine being chinese on a wednesday evening, taking it in turns with your neighbour to weld each other in the fridge because xi wants to make sure the light does actually turn off when the door closes.

or indian, under any circumstance. imagine that.

>getting your news on social media
>getting your news on twatter

Holy fuck I *just* moved my 401k to bonds.
That was incredible timing. I can't believe I actually managed to sell the top.

is hawaian electric a good short ?

they are gettin sued a lot. it has dumped 60% already

>>56042595
For me, it's the US of A. The greatest country on earth. I say this unironically.

>>56042593
Honestly wondering if Iger is trying to torpedo the company. He owns a fuckload of shares too, its wierd.

imagine being a rural frenchman in february, imagine going into the woods naked and taking a shit while taking in the fresh air. or being a mongolian and jacking it off in the middle of the steps while your cattle watches on. that must be what freedom must be like.

>>56042653
Waiting for it to bottom out and going long on it because they’re inevitably going to pump up electric costs to make up for the losses from the lawsuits. Think long term.

>>56042653
It sounds priced in to me.

>>56042679
Probably will file bankruptcy to dissolve the liability

>>56042668
then you want to wipe your ass and remember you have no timber or paper industry so you go home with a shitty cornhole and wash in the skull of one of your deceased from malnourishment children filled with goats piss.

>a higher interest rate would strengthen a country’s currency
All that’s left is to crash the economy and the recession will take care of the rest.

W-we are just consolidating today...

How to cope with missing big trade?
I felt really good about this buy, and then I sold on Fri. My shit didn't settle until today, but it turns out the company had an earnings report and they mooned like 30%. I was gonna put 30k in so that would have been an immediate 10k. I want to kms. Don't want to buy in at that price so now just have 30k sitting in cash.
Sucks, I hate my life. I'm drinking and smoking to cope but it's not enough.

>>56042728
Every rural dweller knows the old saying, anon, "Leaves of three; wipe for free."

>>56042744
To clarify, I sold 30k of other stuff so I could buy the good one. It took 3 days or whatever to settle so I couldn't buy before their earnings and I missed the moon.

>>56042712
It’s still going to be the same company just under a different handle. What are Hawaiians supposed to do, not have electricity and live like 3rd world kangs? Lmao

>>56042750
how is that pronounced in south african and will the highest denomination note of the new brics currency be worth more than three leaves?

>futures

NEW
>>56042510
>>56042510
>>56042510
>>56042510

>>56042733
With me as the sole survivor.

>>56042760
Who knows, with the way they vote it could be worse than California. Plus solar is very cheap now and it's not like you really need climate control there.

>>56042771
Why would you even post that?

>>56042760
They're so stubborn and have such a hate of the continental USA and white people they just might.

Baking

>>56042564
>futures

>>56042744
Volatility might be overpriced since it moved so much, if you like the company you could write puts until you get assigned since you have so much cash now.

nobody knows who I was last thread, tee hee.

>>56042800
I think you're one of the two people bitching about dividends last week.

I'm smoking chicken thighs with hickory wood on the Oklahoma joe. Breaking a 3 day no meat fast. Feels good. Oh and I sold puts today

>>56042768
Dracula is a jew

Imagine owning over 4 million shares of nvda

Holy fucking shit, I want to tear my eyeballs out from talking to women on BMBL (And tinder / other MTCH dating apps). It's like these retards are incapable of actually holding a decent conversation. The ones who actually do talk do not know how to talk about anything but themselves.

It makes me sad knowing that by the time I'll truly be able to call "long term" NVDA bull thesis believers retards, they'll all be long gone.

>>56042773
“They’re expecting one of us in the wreckage, Mumu.”

Assuming he had fixed the problem of saying nigger more then a pol anon what tech company would he work at?

that the acronym was coined by a british economist working for goldman and they couldn't even bother changing it even slightly other than adding the s when the economic powerhouse that is south africa joined in 2010 is the cheery on this baked with the finest mud the village can provide afford cake.

>>56042819
i own half a share

>>56042807
wrong

>>56042753
You have more than $25k you can bypass PDT rules if you open a margin account

>>56042835
India could maybe go somewhere if they could figure out how to form a coherent government.

>>56042835
>brown hands

>>56042817
ASS

>>56042850
Yeah honestly there are worse problems than having a brokerage account with $25k of cash in it.

>>56042855
lol they can't even figure out toilets

>>56042819
Imagine being a director of NVDA. Bet he's had a pretty wild few months.

>>56042869
Every one of the other countries is in even worse shape though.
Maybe Russia (or *maybe* South Africa if Johannesburg split off from all the niggers) could have a cultural revolution and turn into something totally different but baring that it's just the peanut gallery of the world.

>>56042867
Like having less than $25k and being labeled PDT for life, forced to trade
>cash settlement only
because of Pocahontas's changes to the PDT forgiveness

I went to India once as a 6'2 200lb jacked white man man. I felt like a celebrity. I got followed around and everyone wanted to take their picture with me. And then I banged a Bollywood actress. Life was good right before the pandemic.

>>56042855
You're insane if you think India is in better shape than Russia or China or Brazil.

>>56042900
At least they have people.

>>56042906
Yeah Russia and China's population situation is grim, but India's government is absurdly corrupt. Crony capitalism is the name of the game in India. If we want to make it more granular, the more populate part of India, North India, is dragging down the rest of India with it.

South Indian states, frankly, have China/Eastern Europe levels of development. But North India is worse than Sub Sahara.

>>56042900
they're all complete basket cases in their own ways. i know being an edgy anti-american young adult is still as popular as is was 20 years ago and it usually is just a phase but it would be funny to ship these kids off to these countries to spend a few weeks with their ppp lol.

>>56042919
We can talk about how batshit China and Russia's government is and how that might them at the "Same level" as India, but I am not going to entertain any conversation that suggests India is anywhere close to being as developed as other "BRICS" countries except for South Africa.

Brazil might be exponentially more unsafe than India but they're not nearly as underdeveloped and quality of living is still way higher.

>>56042933
as you said above you may as well talk about several countries when discussing india. it's vast with a lot of separate cultures and castes going on. similar to china but at early 90s level of development.
still, more should have been done to prevent the lot from getting nukes and/or missile technology following ww2. big mistake in the west we should have locked that shit down before the 50s when we had air superiority over russia.

I have credit card bills because this real estate deal kept getting pushed on top of freeloading family

>>56042949
I don't care that India has nukes at all honestly. Keeps China at bay. That Vivek Ramaswamy guy does have a good idea in that we should start pressing China on their east coast with carriers going off the coast of Philipinnes, near Taiwan.

>>56042850
>>56042867
I have a $400k funded DEMO account that I paid for so I could compete in a "challenge". I'm a Tog G.
>me on the right

we had the opportunity to japanify russia, china, india and anyone else who wanted some in south america and we pussied out. we could have nuked the lot into submission and all we'd have to deal with now was weird eastern cultural takes on western civilisation.

>>56042980
Nuke your own cities at this stage. Maybe just carve off the the East and West Coasts and move SE to Chicago or something.

>>56042657
Black Widow?

>>56042964
I want to ask how this hasn't been resolved yet but if you posted it I wouldn't bother reading it.

>>56042994
>Maybe just carve off the the East and West Coasts
Yes, carve off the two corridors of the country that run the entire economy

>>56043005
you really do new a jew sometimes

I repeat btw:

>S&P 500 forecasts from analysts at UBS:

>in Q4 the index will remain rangebound, hitting >4500 by the end of 2023
>4700 by June of 2024

It's over.

>>56043009
So prostitution, pajeets, junkies and crime are the american economy? Checks out.

>>56042994
if yuro then talking of "your own cities" in conversation about the nuclear umbrella you reside under then that also includes your cities.
if a brics thirdie then whatever, hope russias liquid fuelled booster stages from the 60s haven't corroded too much and that chinas stolen guidance technology and electronic warfare capabilities are up to scratch when gps gets switch off.

>>56042906
Anyone of any intelligence or skill bails on the country immediately though, and its not even frowned upon.

>>56043020
Yes, as it turns out, pajeets contribute to the US economy and tax base far more per capita than the hordes of meth people in middle America.
Also
>prostitution
Flyovers are grasping for straws so hard lmfao

Somebody hurry up and bake.

>>56042994
Most of the East Coast is nice, it's just NYC, Baltimore and DC that really suck.
Like you said if you dumped the cities the US would be an amazing country.

>>56042855
lol they can't even figure out toilets

>>56043024
Yeah it would be good for everyone if that stopped.

>>56043031
Thanks, I will.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-06/bobby-jain-hires-more-key-talent-ahead-of-2024-hedge-fund-debut

Bobby Jain got Paul Enright to quit Twitter

Key hires:
>Paul Enright (ex-Viking) will be chairman of fundamental equities, coaching and mentoring PMs
>Townie Wells (ex-Ashler) as CIO for Americas fundamental equities
>Sam Kellie-Smith (ex-MS), head of Asia

Probably gonna be one of the better hedge funds around. Enright is a great L/S analyst.

>>56042830
Oracle, since Terry is one.

>>56043026
A huge portion of the skilled workers on the coasts seem to come from the rural middle of the US.

>>56042817
What the heck

>>56043023
Someone sure is sensitive. Go chant USA or something if it'll make you feel better. Have you said your pledge today anon?

>>56043026
Good morning.

>>56043032
This anon gets it, and can read. I know most of America is pretty good. Urban areas are scummy af.

>>56043047
>Have you said your pledge today anon?
you haven't?

If I post a good tip and some anon profits from it is there any way I can redeem from that profiting?

What to slurp?

>>56043041
>A huge portion of the skilled workers on the coasts seem to come from the rural middle of the US.
Yes, all the smart people from flyover states run away from their shitholes to leave for the civilized coasts. More news at 9.

>>56043062
I moved back actually.

>>56043058
>futures

>>56043058
I slurped an ally put and so far have been winning. I also make good plays with too small a position to matter.

I think ALL (Allstate Insurance) is a stock worth shorting. They will be paying up a lot because of environmental disasters. Market hasn't priced that in yet.

>>56043062
>civilised

NVAX bros... We bussin or sussin?

>>56043086
whos their underwriter?

>>56043093
Sussin. Canadian authorities will not approve NVAX vaccine

>>56043058
Weiners imo

>>56043086
Environmental disasters aren't any more common now, just arson and news coverage of disasters.

>>56043094
ALL don't just have one underwriter, they have many:

https://www.allstate.com/underwriting-companies
>>56043102
Anon, you can take the right-wing conservative position of blindly denying climate change and its frequency.

Or you can try to make money.
https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/allstate-posts-bigger-loss-catastrophe-claims-rise-2023-08-01/

Severe weather resulted in 42 catastrophe events, where we remediated losses for 160,000 customers," Allstate CEO Tom Wilson said in a statement.

>The insurer's catastrophe losses in the quarter were $2.7 billion, compared to $1.11 billion a year earlier.”

Sheesh. Allstate's Insurance risk models were way off.

>>56043107
anon you cant try to explain facts to these people

>>56043107
>Florida has hurricanes OMG the world is literally ending.

So my ticker AYRWF has been doing. Little something this week.

>>56043102
>arson
always one extreme to another with you lot*. the majority of wild fires are caused by unintentionally by shit like cigarette or bits of glass.
*yes i did advocate nuking the planet into submission following ww2 but now isn't ww2

>>56043124
Allstate miscalculated impacts of global warming this year and are taking an absolute bath on their homeowners insurance line of business. It's a simple fucking fact that you cannot digest because you've been programmed to immediately think "LIBKEK FAGGOT" the moment you hear anyone mention climate change related issues.
>>56043122
I can hopefully pitch an investment thesis. Facts about Allstate's insurance lines are hard to deny . ALL is quite liquid and not hard to borrow shares.

>>56043122
Tell me more about 1600 England smokestacks and how they cause permanent damage to the ozone layer whilst causing extreme weather behaviors……oh wait

>Futures
https://youtu.be/n9LZYnnIuVU?si=egs0sfbdQM-Bp8uj&t=20

>>56043138
tell me more about how pre-industrial revolution pollution was even comparable to today. retard. my god. I bet you thought that was smart when you typed that out.

>>56043135
Or the price of houses have gone up do to inflation? And insurance softened the numbers in pro for a on Purpose to create higher revenue? It’s accounting 101 guy

>>56043138
Just make your buck and get on with it.

>>56043107
Good slurp after the pay outs are done. You just know they’ll be increasing their premiums after that.

>>56043150
The air was literally unbreathable, no safety regulations of today. So it was far worse than today, dipshit. Oh and how do the reversal of the magnetic poles play into your ‘humans caused this’ theory?

>>56043157
yeah maybe in the immediate area, not in the entire fucking world.

>>56043135
whats the us law on this? can homes become uninsurable or are these companies obliged to offer cover? does a lack of insurability affect the ability to get a mortgage?

>>56043159
he's one of those but i did eat breakfast yesterday types i wouldn't bother.

>>56043138
Your bullshit sarcasm is way off the mark, funnily enough. The 1600s in England were marked by the beginning of the industrial revolution, not massive ozone depletion or extreme weather attribution.The vast majority of climate-altering emissions have been released since the late 19th and 20th centuries. Modern science clearly indicates that these emissions have led to significant global warming and related extreme weather patterns. Let's focus on the well-established science and current data rather than making misleading historical references.
>>56043151
>>56043160
Oh my fucking god, I know 4chan doesn't have the brightest people but holy fuck you conservatives do not understand basic insurance pricing. You seem to be conflating two different issues: the actual damage caused by climate-related events and the way insurance companies account for and price that risk.

Allstate (ALL) , like many other insurance companies, rely on actuarial models to predict potential losses from events like hurricanes, floods, and wildfires. If they consistently underestimate the impact of these events due to not fully accounting for climate change, they stand to lose money. It's in their best interest to get the predictions as accurate as possible. Inflation and housing prices may affect the cost of claims, but they don't cause more frequent or severe weather events.

You are mouth-breathing retarded.

>>56043159
It was centralized. Exactly. In one location, nonstop pollution, day ina Dan day out. No regulations. And yet, no report of ozone layers opening, or extreme weather patterns. Just unbreathable air that was fixed within a decade. Because logic says we need breathable wire, not to control the fucking weather patterns.

Is it true that Jerome can crash the economy just by picking up a payphone and whistling a few specific notes?

>>56043170
The fact you politicize this shows me your immutable stance also gives me the idea of how indoctrinated you really are. Tell me this; ion 2000 when the ‘day after tomorrow’ came out and people were predicting ice cap flood by 2015 and Florida underwater by 2020. What do they have to say now? Ooops? We got it wrong? Give us more money!!!!

>>56043175
lmao. what does that have to do with climate change? please go collect your thoughts and come back because they are not making sense and you sound like a schizoid. The Industrial Revolution brought 10000% more pollution than fucking smoke stacks, it's not even debatable.

>>56043170
>Oh my fucking god, I know 4chan doesn't have the brightest people but holy fuck you conservatives do not understand basic insurance pricing.
i'm in the uk and fairly liberal tbf, not "progressive" by any means but live and let live you know. anyway over here a house that is deemed uninsurable or one where the buyers/owners cannot afford the premiums is unmortgageable.
can you share similar information about how it works in the us please?

>>56043135
>global warming

Local warming

>>56043160
Senate Bill 389

Dipshit is really trying to use INSURANCE data to justify global warming. What a uncle Kyle

>>56043175
buddy you have no idea of the scale of human industrial pollution in 2023 compared to victorian england. you're orders of magnitude off and not accounting for the countless different types of shit we throw into our environment now vs just burning coal and processing metals and clothe then.

>>56043220
South Park?

>>56043190
>people were predicting ice cap flood by 2015 and Florida underwater by 2020.
There is a difference between real scientific predictions which all say the real damage caused by climate change will be more severe weather and retarded alarmist attention whore “scientists” who make dogshit models to fear monger for the media to get their fucking headlines. Or even more common, retard journos will misinterpret (either intentionally or unintentionally) for views. There’s plenty of scientific literature out there that’s garbage, and the media loves it because they can get a story off it. Look at LK-99. Doesn’t mean that climate change isn’t real.

>>56043221
he's a fucking retard. these people didnt go to any amount of college
>>56043220
>omg actual economic data for companies trying to stay afloat cant be real.

>>56043135
House prices went up and people got more violent. Those have a much much more extreme impact than natural disasters.

Intergalactical warming

>>56043234
Thank you, I also get my economic analysis from Tucker Carlson and Prager University.

Oil bros.... Are we unironically in control of this economy?

>>56043240
Instead you get it from some innumerate jewish blogger.

>>56043247
yes

>>56043221
It was the non stop pollution that was unregulated for almost a century. And fun fact, in New York late 1800/early 1900s, everyone had a horse. It was so much so that the manure e from the horses would clog the sewers and make the air unbreathable, because of the chemicals. So, the solution came in the form of a combustible engine. Replacing the literal horse shit with some smoke that we know now to be diesel fumes. However, with one problem a solution is formed which eventually creates another problem. I.e. cars solved the horses, but nope the pollution from cars? So to solve that we mine the fuck outta the earth for natural resources to create solar panels and wind turbines. But what happens to the excess waste of the older material which needs to be replaced? And how many forests are we losing to produce solar farms? You people thinking you ar eso clever sicken me. Your solution is not a solution, it is you getting high off your own farts.

>>56043249
Yes, parsing through Allstate Insurance's quarterly and yearly financial disclosure filings is reading some "innumerate jewish blogger"

we are talking about money. do you faggots believe in money?

>>56043260
No, but others do, so it still has value unfortunately.

>>56043062
>civilized coasts

>>56043260
Show me your positions

>>56043247
the commodity sure had a fun ride today
The stocks on the other hand fell prey to the index shitting amongst other things

>>56043181
I'll call it in.

>>56043256
>Horse Manure vs. Fossil Fuels
The problem of horse manure in New York in the late 1800s and early 1900s was a localized sanitation issue, not a global climate one. While it was a significant concern for city planners, the combustion engine's pollution has long-lasting and widespread consequences for global temperatures, sea levels, and weather patterns.

>Solar Panels & Wind Turbines
Yes, manufacturing solar panels and wind turbines has an environmental footprint, but it's dwarfed by the lifetime emissions reductions these technologies offer compared to fossil fuels. Plus, research is ongoing to reduce the environmental impacts of manufacturing and recycling these technologies.
>Deforestation
It's a myth that we're destroying vast forests for solar farms. Most solar installations are on previously developed land, or areas unsuitable for agriculture or habitation. Plus, the environmental footprint of solar farms is minuscule compared to the deforestation driven by other industries like agriculture or logging.

The crux of the matter is, we're currently adding CO2 and other greenhouse gases to the atmosphere at an unprecedented rate, which is leading to rapid global warming. Comparing historical localized pollution issues to the current global crisis oversimplifies the challenge we face.

>>56043256
its the same faggot who believes we can never figure out a better solution than oil lmao

>>56043249
eh if you had the level of detail available to the largest actuaries like lloyds and put your politics aside and followed that data you'd be a rich guy.
those companies are in it for every penny of profit and they dgaf about normie level political arguments.

>>56043274
I already told you that I'm 40 (now 50%) XLE, dear nigger. This isn't the 'gotcha' that you think it is.

>>56043181
Bird call, actually.

>>56043281
The crux of the matter really is, you wanting to live in your own comfy womfy private habitat is going to put the rest of us in jeopardy. Understand that your cannot control the weather no matter how much money you give your overlords who promise they will protect you. Stop being a faggot already and get with it. Fuck you are a young cumdumpster

Someone tell me why the FUCK my STNG has been going down when oil is up

>>56043291
It’s not a gotcha, you wanna talk money, post positions.

>>56043193
>Insurance Requirement
In the U.S., if you have a mortgage on your home, your lender typically requires you to have homeowner's insurance. This protects the lender's investment in the property, ensuring that even if something catastrophic happens, they can recover their loan amount.

Uninsurable Homes
>If a house is deemed 'uninsurable' due to extreme risks (e.g., being located in a very flood-prone zone without proper flood defenses), it can indeed become very difficult to secure a mortgage for it. Lenders are reluctant to finance properties that aren't insured.

High Premiums
> Sometimes, a house might not be deemed 'uninsurable', but the insurance premiums might be sky-high due to perceived risks. This doesn't render the house unmortgageable, but it does make it less affordable for potential buyers. If a homeowner or buyer cannot afford the insurance premiums, they likely won't be approved for a mortgage.

Specialized Insurance
> In areas with specific risks, like flood zones, additional insurance policies, such as flood insurance, might be required. In some high-risk areas, private insurers may not offer coverage, but there might be federal insurance programs. For instance, the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP) provides flood insurance for properties in high-risk flood areas.

Non-renewals and Cancellations
> There have been instances, especially in areas frequently hit by natural disasters, where insurance companies choose not to renew policies or cancel existing ones. When this happens, homeowners might need to find alternative insurers, often at higher costs, or risk defaulting on their mortgage requirements.

In essence, the situation is not entirely dissimilar to the UK. A home that's not insured presents significant risks to lenders, so it's a crucial factor in the mortgage approval process here in the States as well

>>56043301
Wouldn't that be a cost for a tanker company?

>>56043256
>manure is the same as complex synthetic chemicals being dumped by the kilolitre into the environment daily across the planet, man made particles that break down to a scale so small they can pass through the blood-brain barrier released into the air constantly everywhere, microplastics found everywhere on earth, islands of plastic floating in oceans, rivers so full of artificial estrogen it changes the gender of aquatic life etc
i mean fucking really

>>56043323
Welcome to the world+plastic. Asshole. You really need to re listen to some George Carlin.

>>56043307
post yours first, or suck a dick.
>mining vs eternal oil
oil is eternally milking the earth. its worse than minerals despite whatever crap you read. You're heavily invested in oil both financially and emotionally. I get that, you dont.

>>56043323
>Muh microplastics
Bitch at India then, that's where it's coming from.
And I'd take CO2 over horse shit any day of the week.

>>56043335
George Carlin was so overrated. Just an old guy whining about shit. nothing clever.

This is the best /smg/ ever.

>>56043092
This, holy fuck the delusions.

>>56043358
Fuckin a.

>>56043343
Yeah sure, they are producing out of their own only for themselves and not the west, LMAO

>>56043339
>in;b4 your poor
Ya cuck.

>>56043343
we spend two decades shipping our waste in the empty containers we'd used to import all that shit in the first place back to them so they could dump it everywhere (and we knew) until china first and then other eastern countries told us to fuck off and deal with these literal mountains of conspicuously consumed shit ourselves.
sorry you can call me whatever you want but this problem is directly caused by western economic models of firstly offshoring all our manufacturing to places with zero regulations on anything and widespread corruption and then building an economy based on buying this utter shit from these thirdies only to toss it in a hole and pollute the planet.
if the west has to take responsibility for one thing it is trusting them to do the job properly then doing nothing when it was obvious they weren't and putting short term "prosperity" first.

Are you guys retarded? It's a teenager's dream to move to NYC or SF. They just get crushed when they get there. lol.

>>56043301
Oil is going up because there is less production.
There is less production because Saudis keep extending/expanding their personal export cuts.
There are export cuts because there is less global demand.
There is less global demand because China is shitting themselves economically.
There are struggles in China because of a multi-decade property bubble.
There was a multi-decade property bubble due to bad central planning.
This all ties back to less shipping volume.
Therefore, STNG dumps.

>>56043372
LOL. I am going to save you the dignity my brother. Just going to tell you that you have a 4 digit portfolio and it is beautiful. You should feel proud. For realizes.'
Internally I'm wondering how someone can feel so confident typing on smg. lmfao. bravo.

>>56043098
Like we need a leafs approval for anything...

>>56043376
and now you've all got chemicals that cannot be broken down by any environment short of the sun engulfing us stuck the wrong side of all the bits of your body you evolved to keep stuff out.
hope that $1 happy meal was worth it.

>>56043384
Percentages and risk ya faggot. And I knew you wouldn’t post your -50% total return. I’m smart enough to know when to invest and how much. I’m not a gambling incel like yourself. I do proper DD with financial assessment. I even did an inb4 for your exact response. You cunt

>>56043406
>>56043376
shut up faggot nobody cares

>>56043406
Awwww did no one take your talking point seriously? Is it because it’s based on your faggy wants and not the reality of the world we live in?

OK somebody fabricationpill me on US manufacturing stocks.

Goddamn muffuggin libruls on my bizness n' finance board voting for their high taxes and pattern daytrading laws and gettin in the way of my upward mobility n shit. gtfo reeeeee

One of the, if not the worst /smg/ of all time no doubt about it

>>56043415
One day you will learn that you do not know everything and that you are not the biggest baddest person who ever visited SMG. I was you once.
I re-allocated today.

>>56043423
>Is it because it’s based on your faggy wants and not the reality of the world we live in?
crack on then, don't shoot the messenger.

>>56043437
You hid the numbers?! You three figures portfolio having ass. You aren’t even using a big boy brokerage. Fucking pathetic.

>>56043446
My smallest position is bigger than your portfolio, I dont need to prove anything to you.

>>56043436
>if not the worst /smg/ of all time no doubt
I've seen worse

>>56043454
Yea you did. Hence the attempt at dick swinging.

>>56043457
alright buddy, have fun with your McDonalds paycheck

>>56043247
Is it too late to get in?

>>56043406
>and now you've all got chemicals that cannot be broken down by any environment
There are people that seriously believe this. lmao.

>>56043467
It’s actually life style revenue form owning my small business in the hospitality industry. But I accept your apology. Next time, try not to be a faggot and you may get better reception in the future!

>>56043429
reshoring isn't really going to happen
And if it is forced to happen it will be extremely painful in both cause and effect

>>56043434
THIS
but unironically.

>>56043247
>Are we unironically in control of this economy?
No
t. BOIL KANG

>>56043480
>owning my small business in hospitality industry
>Sustenance Acquisition Specialist using a mobile vehicle

>>56043378
NYC is a really nice place. If you have excessive amounts of money and don't mind the homeless and occassional pile of trash. I stayed at one of the times square hotels over the weekend and it was great.

>

>>56043478
yes i've never heard hyperbole from people who insist humans have 0 negative impact on anything ever, such as all electric cars catch fire and windmills chop up bald eagles.
in your or my miserable lifespans they are forever.

Uh is NVAX actually a good idea? For the first time in a long time today I saw multiple people in Publix with masks on

>>56043497
>Sustenance Acquisition Specialist
Kek

>>56043513
it's pump and dump season.

>>56043497
I own an edibles cannabis commpany that dispensaries distribute, you tard. As if my portfolio wasnt a clue I am in cannabis. I swear, you think you know it all but end up looking like the seething wagie who is scared of the big bad weather and are too much of a pussy to accept your mortality and instead push the rest of us into your quasi utopia where everything you encounter is just to your liking and the earth will never be uncomfortable again. Mentally ill faggot

Bros I just cleaned my toilet and now I have to take a dump. Think I'm gonna go shit in the street or backyard instead. What other options do I have?

>>56043499
Hi Jasper

>>56043529
Shit in the shower and push it down the drain. Ezpz

>>56043521
You should smoke weed before you post on here, you sound pretty irate 100% of the time.

>>56043529
you will have to poop again right after you finish taking a shower too
this curse I place upon you

>>56043504
>he's serious
>his only counter is a strawman
lmao

>>56043538
Apology accepted, and I will be taking your advice.

>>56043543
I respect the weed gig if you're actually legit and not a black market faggot. I order THCA all the time and im the Donald trump legalized THCA poster here.

>>56043521
>I own an edibles cannabis commpany
What kind of edibles you packing? I used to make 500-1000mg cookies and brownies but I had to stop because I was going insane from eating 3 to 6 of those a day for months on end. On the bright side I don't drink or smoke or use caffeine anymore, so I have that going for me which is nice

>>56043467
Holy projection.

>>56043521
is that honestly how you view anyone who even entertains the possibility of emissions affecting the atmosphere, as someone trying to control the weather?

My financial goal for next year I'd to impregnate a brown girl. In order to achieve this I'm a quitting breakfast and doing 10 pull-ups with 8 nonconsecutive minutes of planking throughout the day.

>>56043555
Yes. My next venture is cannabis lounge. Hell yeah. Try tinctures, you don’t smoke and it is faster acting.

>>56043564
>8 nonconsecutive minutes
Better be 4-2minute intervals and not 8-1minute.

>>56043372
>4 figures
>dude weed lmao
You're actually correct about the retarded dude weed stocks though, MSOS will hit $50 by EOY. The play is January 2024 far OTM calls, not shares.

>>56043503
On the bright side this meme gets better with each thread.

>>56043556
It’s a gummy produced in a small warehouse. It doesn’t run 24/7. I have enough made for the local shops. I’m not working on branding; it was an mvp project for college.

>>56043559
I mean, if you saw the amount in my 401k vs his portfolio you'd understand. its about 20x1. not 'projection' in the slightest.
>>56043566
I'm one of those guys (not originally) from California who moved to texas so I'm fully aware of the market. but I just wasn't aware that THCA was legal until about a year ago. Let's hope nothing changes in the new farm bill.

>>56043372
This has to be bait

>>56043503
>this is the worst it’s ever been

>and the best it will ever be from this point on.

>>56043564
>nonconsecutive
you've already lost

>>56042492
Anons I need you to give this youngish zoomer some advice. So on one hand there is easy and "free" pussy with a girl that is mentally unstable but super easy. Or should I just pick up an extra shift and fuck a whore or 2 of my choosing?

>>56043541
>counter
i honestly don't care m8 this is economics and physics not voooting. one of us is either right or wrong and thats that. the planets fine or its not and if its not degradation will occur regardless of our beliefs.

>>56043437
As much as I hate them they know how to run a good ETF.

>>56043585
The regulated gummies are weak shit but good for normies and they do taste good

>>56043379
Global demand hasn’t dropped, it’s increasing. OPEC wants its pound of flesh after all of the Covid dollar printing and SPR fuckery.

>>56043600
Hey let's hope we see a real crash then. '20-'21 SOXL /SMG/ was juvenile

>>56043621
The end of last week was pretty good.

>>56043564
Race mixing is bad anon

>>56043621
did you not make loads of money?

>>56043612
It's a fact that microplastics themselves are easily recyclable. There is even naturally occurring bacteria that has evolved and feeds on that shit.
There are plenty of problems with the global environment, some of which have been directly caused by humans. Very little has been irreparable - mostly extinctions of niche subspecies of insects.

>>56043610
You should focus on yourself. Never spend money on sex. Jerk off if you are that horny. Sex will come, trust me. At a certain point, women will give it to you just because you are a man and they are a woman, and you are hanging out. Have some standards.
>>56043627
is it though? I guess it's bad if you never end up also mating with another white woman, however, bleaching general population is actually good. in my general financial opinion, of course.

>>56043628
I wasn't around then. Had a BAD 2016 with options and left for years
>verified

>>56043647
Your child will not identify well with either race until 3 generations after consistent same-race preference.
t. They'll get picked on

>>56043638
which have not been caused by humans or only partially caused by humans?
don't be obtuse and use tectonics or extraterrestrial impacts as an example of pollution.

>>56042616
nutjobs are always the worst traders

>>56042549
women....2023. I hate women but i hate simps more

green arrow? buy and hold
simple as

>>56043627
It's weird how being racist makes you want to though.

>>56043668
you act like people haven't been intermingling since the beginning of time. do you not believe in evolution and gene selection? Race is just a byproduct of that.

>>56043618
I oversimplified there, but the oil on water demand has been dropping. I also ignored the SPR.
STNG is actually a product tanker, so it's supply/demand balance is somewhat distinct from crude.

This is a seasonal low anyway, so perhaps we'll see more visible tightness in the next few months. Limited upside for STNG either way. It was a much better buy at $10-15 than it is today. These asset plays have pretty defined value, and while the Ukraine invasion did provide a real boost to earnings, in the end ships reach maturity, new ships must be built. Generally ROIC across the full shipping cycle is mediocre and STNG is not a name I would consider top tier governance.
The best play on STNG is to hope Bugbee flips more calls to pump your bags.

>>56042506
DRAGGGGUULLLAHAH!

I'm tired of thinking about money 24/7.

>>56043491
>it will be extremely painful

>>56043720
I feel like nobody talks about the elephant in the room for oil market, of Russia exporting to China and India
that if you're China and India, and you're able to get a lot more of your energy needs from Russia, you don't need to be ordering tankers months/years in advance in order to receive oil shipments - the demand for using tankers, and buying from other nations decreases, if Russia is offering a 20%+ discount
for this reason, I'm out and wouldn't invest in tankers

>>56043722
haven't thought about rob zombie for a while

>>56043722
Hell yeah one of my favorite car AND Halloween related songs.

>>56043058
Cash.

>>56043321
They’re an OIL tanker company. Increased demand helps them. Especially since Europe has to buy from the Middle East even more now since they’re buying less from Russia. New price cap rumors would probably help even more.

>>56043564
Best of luck anon. I have a similar goal in mind.

>>56042657

>>56043062
The only people showing up on the coasts are junkies.

>>56043418
You will care when you grow tits you fucking retard. Boomers didn’t care about lead in gasoline until they had to.

>>56043762
>>56043751
I'm not sure that it translates that way - the demand from EU for the tankers already existed - ~2/3 Russian oil shipped to EU from tankers before the war
they shifted to other tanker companies / countries, but still the same demand for tankers worldwide
but then if you have India / China stop demanding tankers as they are able to get more from Russia pipelines / Russia tankers, the demand for tankers outside of Russian ones falls
I obviously do not have the data or backtest to look at this under a fine tooth comb, but my gut instinct, and the price action on tankers / shipping containers and the like, is telling me that the net effect is decreased demand for tankers net, globally

>>56043372
Fuck 'em. We all start out somewhere. I have to add, however, that your portfolio is unique.
>>56043590
Post digits or shut the fuck up you faggot.

Can we talk about stock here? What the fuck are the jannies doing? So I get TWO consecutive bans for allegedly posting gibberish and politics, but people can post this shit? Fuck the jannies, you people have become WAY more shittier these couple of years. Do your damn job. It's not that damn hard on this slow ass board.

>>56043564
>>56043764
I love being a white man.

>>56043676
Pollution is a manmade phenomenon almost by definition. There are technically some natural processes that produce results considered pollution such as fires started due to weather, but the general connotation of "pollution" is that of human origin.
When I mentioned environmental problems in the previous post, I wasn't specifically referring to pollution. I wasn't referring to anything really. Regardless, what constitutes a "problem" in that sense is subjective so it's not something I'd be interested to debate further.

But microplastics are not the unsolvable problem you make them out to be. That is a fact, and if you intend to attempt at convincing me otherwise then you'll need to provide some evidence.

>>56043762
Just be careful about conflating shipping prices with the price of the things being shipped. When I talked about high oil being a cost, that would arrive in the cost of fuel needed to move the tanker. I doubt they are nuclear powered.

Who the fuck hired this retarded advertising and data "analysis" agency spamming /biz/? Whoever did should sue the fuck out of you losers. The fucking crypto ponzi fiverr jeets did a better job

Animal farts === Diesel gas is the most retarded thing I've read on this forum. The Industrial Revolution has been a disaster for the human race.

>tfw failed training at work today
>despite being a senior technician
Woops. Good thing it was just in-house and not in front of a customer.

brap

>>56043834
Yeah we all know diesel is made from garbage.

>>56043720
Thank you for being informative, actually. Where did you get this information, friend? Are you just very familiar with oil as a commodity?
>>56043751
I heard India started buying a good amount less oil from Russia recently, but I don’t really understand why that is the case.

>>56043751
>I feel like nobody talks about the elephant in the room for oil market, of Russia exporting to China and India
That's actually the bull case. Russia exports to India who then refines their crude and ships it back up to Europe. It bypasses sanctions because the gas/diesel loses that Russian stink and becomes clean Indian products. That is happening right now. There's no tracking on the chain of custody for Russian crude to prevent this, and even if there were, India could just ship products sourced from different oil imports. In the end, it's a global commodity.

The China factor only becomes a bear case if they build out new pipelines, which is not something I'm in the loop on. Perhaps that is happening. I wouldn't be surprised. It takes time though, and most of these tanker stocks are trading at 3-4 year implied bull market duration. No one expects the current situation to last forever, the bet is on how long it lasts, how bad it gets, and how the various public companies choose to return capital vs wastefully reinvest in future ships.

PLTR don't do this to me. i need to make generational wealth

>>56043807
well they're there and there is basically everywhere so who is going to solve and more importantly pay for their clean up and disposal in a way that actually works, and then who is going to get shitty with basically everyone on earth about not letting it happen again and enforcing that.
dunno how you clean plastic from a placenta or brain but it shouldn't be there.

>>56043885
>PLTR

lmao, that is a hell of a way of framing something

>>56043868
Demand is crashing everywhere. The china market is breaking away and the euro market as well. Russia is already building fake stories on why they need to reduce exports and production and next opec meeting is likely going for another production cut. Oil is effectively flat. Don't get dupped by the dinosaur blood baggies itt

>>56043878
>Perhaps that is happening.
Seems like they’d love nothing more than to bypass the Straights of Malacca but building pipelines through Siberia is probably way easier said than done. Doesn’t seem like China is exactly flush for cash now either.
>No one expects the current situation to last forever, the bet is on how long it lasts
The War in Ukraine isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, support may wane for Ukraine which could give Russia an advantage but they have shown nothing but incompetence on the offensive. This counteroffensive has shown just how calcified the lines have become.

>>56043895
There are worse things that could be there: Lead, for example. We've been using lead and dealing with the resulting poisoning since the Romans, if not earlier.
It's only within the last 50 years or so that we decided to start caring.

I'm sure if microplastics are shown to have long term negative impacts then we'll eventually see a larger effort to actively resolve that problem as well, but there are also plenty of foreign compounds that are considered benign when found inside the human body.

>>56043878
>That's actually the bull case
the bull case for oil, or the bull case for STNG tankers?
I don't see how STNG benefits from India exporting to EU - where they're taking market share away from STNG

>>56043372
whats good tlry bro
why not just go 100% tilray?

did a napkin calculation and particles small enough to pass into the brain could only be filtered by reverse osmosis, so first we have build a reverse osmosis machine capable of filtering 333 cubic miles of water in a timely manner.
would probably have been easier to not design, order, manufacture, ship, use once then send back several million tonnes of shit we didn't really need or want to a third world landfill where they still lack the basics of human sanitation.
oh well.

>>56043927
Reuters is not news, reuters is an advertising agency for hire. That's one of their "buy the dip" articles likely paid for by Sauds or UAE

>>56043948
*i am being extra morbidly bearish from a different angle to try and provoke discussion beyond stock picking because i'm bored. next thread i'll do something else.

I am about to be laid off for the second time in six months.

>>56043975
Tech?

>>56043985
Yes. I thought I would be safe moving to a more manufacturing-related business. RIP.

>>56043950
Bull case for STNG. The farther refineries are located from their end demand, the more ton-miles for product tankers like STNG to ship that stuff.
But it is complicated. I saw above that you asked where I got this knowledge. The trick is stalking more knowledgeable people on twitter and other news sites. I'm by no means an expert, but I do have some basic understanding.

>>56043975
>>56043992
You must suck at your job. Did you fail that coding quiz we did the other day? Sorry pajeetanon.

>>56043281
>CO2
Not an issue.

>greenhouse gase
CFCs were a generally authentic constituent in greenhouse theories of global warming. But the revolving door of homocentric models always ignore natural emissions. Currently we are finding that we may still be in the termination phase of the ice age that had its initial stages back about 10k years ago.. Time-scales and Systematic scales are being personalised, because, like with religion, humanity only thinks on personal scales.. For all you know, this whole bag of events is a solar cyclical mechanism. Add the right light to the right natural emissions and you have a thermogenic effect.

Whilst I agree that humanity's futures depend solely on ingenuity, ritualistic primitivism with wind farms and sorting recyclables are inanity. Might as well toss chicken bones.

>>56044005
Quite the opposite. Both companies suddenly reported their worst financials ever thanks to Jim Brandon.

>>56044025
Were you a pure dev role?

>>56044017
cfcs were banned in the 90s because they caused ozone depletion, which was about not tearing fucking great holes in the part of the atmosphere that absorbs and reflects a lot of uvb light that gives white people cancer. aussies still got fucked but it is closing up.

stocks to zero

>>56044099
Good.

IT'S STALE PEASANT!!!
WHERE IS THE NEW BREAD?!?!

>>56044050
DS

>>56043974
Understandable. It was an interesting discussion.
As someone who spends part of my free time oil painting, I do my best to ensure no lead gets inside my body.
I don't really like the idea of microplastics either, even if it's sort of unknown/untested at this point in time. Not sure what else we can do at this point other than speculate, unfortunately.
I know that solutions exist on a macro level, but within an individual human today I really have no idea. The treatment for lead poisoning is to inject another compound that flows through and tends to attract the lead. Perhaps something could also be done that singles out and targets certain microplastic compounds.

>>56044115
Baking

>>56044121
>>56044121
>>56044121

baking

>>56045394
I know you're trying to be funny, but let me lay some knowledge on you. Have you ever heard of Scorch Coin, the most innovative thing to happen to the crypto space since Bitcoin? They have a revolutionary "baker" feature where you can stake your Scorch and receive additional rewards on top of the rewards that you get for running a Baker. With the "baker" feature you can double your profits as compared to "stakers." Here is the link to Scorch Coin

>>56045394
Hell yeah brah, I gotchu. Scorch is a gamechanging token that will bake everyone who buys it filthy rich. You too can bake a million if you buy Scorch and remember to "Hodl" for the next bull run. Link

There are quite a few /smg/s in the catalog right now

>>56048698
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>>56048535
>>56048535
>>56048535

Update, now we're here:
>>56050190
>>56050190
>>56050190
In case anyone sees this thread

BOOMP

>>56050947
this

This picture represents future spurdo holders

>>56042820
You basically have to ask yes no questions and then pepper them with jokes. Its awful, but basically set it up so they have minimum effort to put in.