/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56005538
I need to pay off my mortgage, this isn't funny. When price go back up?

4 dollars soon trust the plan

>>56005538
it's dead, it'll never come back

>>56005538
Kleros token only for judges and lawyers

>>56005538
Uniswap sir

it's going below 1 cent. trust the plan

400 dollars in 2030

>>56005538
If the price went down then it must be a rugpull. There is no other possible explanation

>>56006540
Yeah, can't believe the price crashed in this market. These fucking scammers.

It was always a meme. You can't actually make a functioning court on ethereum.

>>56005538
They didn't even have the politeness to do that, they're still pretending to be making progresses.

>>56007769
No it's a great idea the team is just bad at implementing it, or perhaps they just don't care. As individuals they're already pretty much made it, why bother?

>>56007769
>You can't actually make a functioning court on ethereum
why not?

>>56007863
>>56007832
because I said so!!!

>>56007769
It would absolutely function if they put it on arbitrum or optimism or base but they're just too lazy. I don't understand how they accomplish so little

>>56007765
>Ethereum: had a working product and had increasing utilization
>Amazon: had record breaking sales and profits
>Kleros: has record breaking number of days since V2 was supposed to be released, record number of fraud accusations

>>56007912
There should be another conceptual layer to the cart before the horse analogy.

You want to make a service that nobody is interested in more affordable and functional. Instead of asking how do we make "decentralized justice" work faster or less expensive, you should be asking if there's any demand for the service category at all.

-Clement changing tokenomics at will, which enriches him, his friends, and other sybils registered in PoH at the expense of PNK holders
-Whitepaper falsely advertising an idealized system while the devs built something that was not functional and would lead to financial losses that were not supposed to occur
-Team misappropriating cooperative budget to host parties and travel for pleasure
-V2 release date deliberately lied about to the community repeatedly (Clement says this is so devs work more urgently, but ultimately this just misled countless of investors)
-Staking rewards not delivered on time as promised, causing financial loss to investors. Staking rewards delivered manually and anywhere from 1 to 7 days later than promised.
-Team having more tokens than the amount staked in general court, meaning they can collude on any case they want; team refusing to disclose personal wallets
-A majority of cases are either mirrored photo cases on Proof of Humanity which the team intentionally obfuscates rules of registration on the front end to trick people into breaking rules, or frivilous cases made by Clement or others in order to silence others or artificially boost case count
-Votes being visible on the blockchain which makes it extremely easy to collude with other jurors and skip reading over case details entirely
-Staking incentives are rewarding incoherent people staking and attacking the court over people who simply hold the token and don't stake
-V1 has been broken on Linux kernel, and consequently android, for more than 2 months with no proper fix; this leads to people voting "refuse to arbitrate" which causes them or the cooperative financial loss
-Clement blocks people for saying he should work on Kleros V2 during weekdays, especially because it is more than 2 years late

-Susie was introduced as if it was finished, but it was very rushed and barely works. It happened to be introduced right as Clement decided to change the tokenomics. Ultimately this is just an effort to silence critics of the scammy behavior occuring
-PoH being advertised to this day as a sybil-resistant system, while it is common knowledge by even the team that there are countless sybils in the registry and it is very easy to sybil attack
-Kleros court is littered with inconsistent rulings (which is due to broken economic incentives of V1)
-After being late 2 years on the development deadline promise, the testnet contract for V2 is still broken
-CTO (Clement) refuses to type a single line of code even though V2 is over two years late. He is perfectly fine with wasting time replying to random things on Twitter during business hours, however.
-The appeal system is nothing more than a game of who is willing (or capable) of putting down a large cash deposit, leading to the richest person winning every appeal, leading to the richer getting richer, further worsening the issue. If you'd like to appeal but you're out of money? too bad, you lose all your previous deposits! thanks for playing!

Wasting cooperative money on parties and travel is not a meme. They barely have any conversion on partnerships/integrations following any of these events, yet they throw those expenses under a “marketing” heading in the cooperative report yet ignore every demand to hire an actual marketer. In fact, Clement literally repels people from Kleros.

No joke, at the ethcc party I introduced a potential candidate from my personal network for the “policy writer” role. She liked everything about Kleros… but then she ended up meeting Clement. I later found out that she withdrew her job application because Clement gave her the heebie-jeebies.

All that posturing about incubator V2, all that wasted money on international travel, and the only external incubation partner they ended up getting that is actually willing to invest resources in Kleros virtual incubator grads is someone I handed them with zero marketing budget (Founder’s Institute).

https://blog.kleros.io/the-founders-bootcamp-by-kleros/amp/

>>56008269
So the team is able to spend our money with no oversight?

>>56007912
>would absolutely function if they put it on arbitrum
so is it only a scaling problem? What about the intrinsic memecrity of muh ethereum juror?

>>56008101
>you should be asking if there's any demand for the service category at all
there is demand cause smart contracts only solve dispute deterministically there is no human interventio i.e. paypal disputes

>-Votes being visible on the blockchain which makes it extremely easy to collude with other jurors and skip reading over case details entirely
this is a bigg ass iusse how can it be solved?

>>56008531
>So the team is able to spend our money with no oversight?
Welcome to all of crypto. Every slow rug you see? Consultant fees everywhere =)

Get into dietpepe OP, we makin it out of the bear season with this one

>>56008268

Abeer, you're a fucking narsassistic incel.

You and Ludovico should Go fuck Off.

You're both uni students who have no real world experience. Go finish you're thesis and keep thinking your imaginary incel friends online respect you for your misinformation dribble.

>>56009510
Clement detected

>>56008583
>there is demand
Oh cool. You must be rich.

>>56005538
bump

Would an actual release of v2 even save kleros at this point?

>>56005538
https://youtu.be/wtqXP7OnD3M?si=PZyJlDchHlvB-31v

>>56012697
30 integrations $0.40
150 integrations $0.02

Crypto is all hype cycles, price has nothing to do with actual utility

clementine needs funds
so... give him the funds? lmao, better court system n all