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buy buy buy till the end of july
come back in october once its all over
december will be one to remember

Check the buttcorn computer.

>>55996562
We will be red tomorrow.

For me, it's the SP 500.

fuck bonds, bunch of bullshit. shit is confusing as hell.

>>55996571
BASED
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>>55996609
Yep, it made a Bart on the end of a Bart!

>anyone here stacking up on puts? im about to go in big on QQQ puts i think we are 2 months out from a 30% drop

I'm shorting hard, EU. EU practically moves with US. I'm actually not sure. I don't expect a sudden move down except they react like faggots to the CPI. Mumus are trying all the tricks to keep this market up. China now again cutting rates etc. This china bullshit now almost goes for a year from november. It's the constant
>see, recoooooovery
game.

I'm starting to think this will be a slow march downwards. And the longer it takes the more Mumus will cling to their stocks and do the
>seeeeee there is the recovery forwardlooking
game

do u guys want to hear about my AXSM short thesis

holy shit that GET. QUAD DOUBLES, i just won 4chan. did i just make it?
>5963
what does it mean? is that the top of s&p?

>>55996633
Man, you know what, I do not consider myself really smart or any of that shit by any stretch, but I see Anons talking about all that bond shit as if they have an essentially all engulfing understanding of the shit, and I just get more and more baffled the more I learn about them.

any puts chads itt?

where my TLRY bros at

>>55996644
Holy fuck, checked QUAD DUBS of no but tell it anyway.

>>55996644
I prefer my 40-1 reverse bio split short

>>55996633
We tried to warn you

>>55996650
Yes, put-writes krew

>>55996571
Nighty night bro

>>55996633
>>55996644
Absolutely BASED digits

>>55996641
exactly what bears have been saying for the past 4 months. the simple fact here is that the market is driven by hedge funds that are all using seasonality as their entire alpha until the labor market breaks

>>55996655
WHAT IS HAPPENINGG!!!!!!

>>55996653
Hello, 1 BILLION in losses for a quarter spooked me out of most my stack

>>55996648

>>55996644
numbers are higher than >>55996633

sorry anon

>>55996666
ABSOLUTELY DEVILISH DIGITS

>>55996677
55996688 FOR ME

>>55996677
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. SELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

>>55996655
>>55996677
Bros, what is going on ITT

>>55996688
FUUUUUUUCK
Nobody is posting anymore, lmao
GIVE ME 55996699

>>55996562
You guys are shorting 3M right??

>>55996633
>>55996644
>>55996655
>>55996666
>>55996677
>>55996688

>>55996688
We are tapping into the random number generated gods powers, market manipulators help us all

>>55996697
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>55996633
I mean why did you come into this thread waving those digits around nonchalantly?

First for NVDA crashing all the way to $100/share

>>55996709
They only get more impressive as the thread goes on, friend
>>55996700
Checked

>>55996718
Because computers aren’t going to need better drives and phones cars won’t need s art sand anymore.

The number Gods have spoken. The red months start tomorrow.

>>55996700
bro ive been browsing here since like '05 and never seen this shit before thats crazy. its a sign from kek himself

My humble request to KEK, incredibly noble God of chaos, double student debt then triple world hunger then quadruple poverty

>>55996724
https://www.quantumbusinessnews.com/deals-partnerships/jp-morgan-hires-post-quantum-cryptography-specialist

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-released-first-quantum-resilient-fido2-key-implementation/amp/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/04/national-security-memorandum-on-promoting-united-states-leadership-in-quantum-computing-while-mitigating-risks-to-vulnerable-cryptographic-systems/
Quantum Business News

It's not with AI chips, Money's in Quantum Computers. Also, AMD already surpassed NVDA by leaps and bounds.

https://youtu.be/JGT7mx5-IjU?si=cKLbgtf1IkX0AYHQ

>>55996724
NVDA can continue to be a great company with excellent products and still have the stock be victim to a massive wave of repricing due to liquidity drying up
the real issue is that 80% of their revenue comes from premiums paid by a few hyperscalers for tech with limited use and no forseeable profitability while they continue to dilute with y/y performance gains

Looks like I will never get digits.

>>55996700
>>55996702
>>55996731
the numbers dont mean anything at all.
forget you saw anything.

red tomorrow is a possibility

>>55996721
He has a 67, no more 66 :(

>>55996700
Mom, come pick me up, I’m scared.

>>55996644
>AXSM short thesis
Yes

I'm just going to slowly move my oil gains to AGNC because I want to take advantage of 7.5% mortgage rates rather being dumb and taking a mortgage.

I think I'll be pretty set for the next 5 years as I pay half my rent with REIT dividends and expand my purchasing power by not needing to worry about rent.

>>55996752
I'm not coming to the market tomorrow. I hate people having jobs.

>>55996754
Fret not, little one. The ride is only beginning.

>>55996752
It's not just a possibility, it's a necessity.

I'm making so much fucking money right now.

>>55996778
yes this. bullish pullback

>>55996769
IM FRETTING

>>55996781
Explain how.

>>55996791
Or perhaps, Capitulation?

>In der ostkongolesischen Stadt Goma sind bei einer gewaltsamen Niederschlagung von mehren Demonstrationen gegen die dortige Friedensmission der Vereinten Nationen (UN) nach Angaben der Regierung 43 Menschen getötet und 56 verwundet worden

(loosely translated)
>In the easternkongolose city Goma there have been killed 43 people and 56 injured during violent suppression of a number of protests against the peacemission of the UN.

Somewhat.. ironic. You protest against a peacemission and get killed during that protest by the state.

>>55996791
That is a very handsome young man.

>>55996799
He is Lagarde

>>55996796
Luke 2:10

>>55996809
>assuming my AI waifu's gender

>>55996700

>>55996817
Based. I am not calm

>>55996819
>assuming

>>55996828
There will never be another /SMG
THIS is the the last Thread
Market Crash TODAY

>>55996834
>not
Now

>>55996835
And thus began, the feast of my bobros.

I hate women.
THIS
IS
FINANCIAL
FUCKIN'
ADVICE

>>55996848
forgotted fuckin' LINKARINO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlc6xCPx60U

>>55996848
t.

>>55996848
>TSLA
>NVDA
and
>AI

is the incel portfolio that will make women obsolete

>>55996845
I thought
>What is this in the front? She's squatting
>Why are the tits so unnecessarily moving and in focus?
>This is anime, why am I even questioning anything

And so begins the 10 year bull run. To the sound of thunderous digits.

>>55996882
Thus began the Bear Market that will take Mumus 20 years to recover from.

>>55996882
Nice try. but it’s JOVER.

Hello?

They'll crash it after labor day, just to remind every wagie bull, that they'll have to work forever and there will never ever be an easy decadelong bullrun ever again

>>55996902

>>55996923

When will I start making money?

>>55996914
:( I’m so fucking SICK of working though

>>55996914
Why not crash it before September 4, that way by Labor Day, wagies inevitably know they'll have to suffer through being wage slaves for another 2 decades?

>>55996882
Ya jinxed it

>>55996933
Once you can tell what the Jews are doing in the financial industry.

>>55996935
What's stopping you from never working ever again?

>>55996867
Not an incel nor troon stock buyer, I only fucks with BOIL/KOLD/UNG as a general rule (I dabble in other shit in very small amounts to cure the boredom in between BOIL buy zones).
>>55996859
Nope, not a NIGGER either. Just because all women are fuckin' whores doesn't mean I will do anything other than state that fact.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJZrXhMBG1E

>>55996949
Mhm, and when was the last time you had pussy, if ever?

>>55996932

>>55996947
Money.

>>55996978
Sure sounds like you need to work more so you have more of it

>>55996964
Son, I live with a woman that I have had far more sex with than I care to. *Far* more.

>>55996882

>>55996984

Reminder to stock up on osmium before it's too late.

I just want the market to crash so people can realize they're slaves to their own system that they created.

>>55996940
Hope, destroy HOPE

>>55996700

>>55996751
I'm... I'm gonna... STRONGLY INTERPRET OOOOOOOOOH

>>55997005
>>55997005
>>55997005

Nothing like giving someone hope and snatching it away the very next moment.

WELP, now that it is passed midnight onto the 1st (got Aug interest payment on the 31st) I have set my HOOD account back to margin from cash, and bought a month of Gold (renewal date will now be 1 day after interest payments) to get that 4.9% on uninvoosted cash while I wait on the next BOIL buy zone. I have learned FUCK OPTIONS for now and will do more paper trading, then maybe set it back to cash account and give it another go in Nov. Even though I LOOSTED, I learned a lot by finally just jumpin' in and doin' a little live tradin' of the motherfuckers, and have picked up a few things I need to pay much clooser attention to (like thanks to 80 delta goolf poot in oofice Anon for just one little example).
SO, to summerize, I HATE WOMEN (forever), and FUCK OPTIONS (for now). Niggers.

>>55996644
this is the high point of your life pajeet, this is the peak. Does your short thesis involve puts on AMC

>>55996806
>(((Friedensmission)))

>>55996882
nothing ever happens

>>55996644
I don't need the thesis. If CRBP says he's shorting a biotech fraud, I buy puts. Simple as.

tomorrow they will be reminded

>>55996914
War der Kaffee heute zu stark?

>>55997057
based

>>55997071
jesus fucking christ i went out to get groceries and my heart skipped because i got like 7 (You)'s. Then I realized it was digitsfaggotry. Also for the record it was short AMC calls that fucked me.
>>55996759
ur a terrible poster to be honest.
>>55996657
TTOO?
>>55997098
HAhahaha. Thanks. But do u want to hear. The thesis.


Have you ever gotten high on cough syrup. That is the first question re. AXSM short thesis. Re. their drug. Auvelity.

I feel guilty for saying the putsRnotDaWae guy is a bad poster but im pretty sure he's dogshit

>>55997117
Most of us are dogshit

>>55997109
>HAhahaha. Thanks. But do u want to hear. The thesis.
I probably wouldn't understand it anyway. lol.

>>55996562
is nfp tomorrow?

>>55997105
Absolut. Deiner auch? Wirkst immer so verbittert

>>55997121
The two of us are actually pretty good people. The guy who namefags as putsRnotDaWae shills complete garbage. I mean the name itself should make you cringe. Also I know he's CFLTranny because I ran some modeling on his posting style so he's the guy who used to spam CLF and his shitty twitch stream on here.

>>55997123
Would you like to hear a vocaroo of me talkign about AXSM I want to talk about this company because im pretty confident it's a high liquidity and low borrow rate % short. Less than 1% borrow for short rate.

putsRnotDaWae posted his dick cheese on here btw not sure if you guys say that

>>55997141
Sure, I'll listen. No guarantees on comprehension. Maybe I'll keep the tab open for tomorrow morning when I'm actually focused.

>>55997136
He turned bearish yesterday. Not sure if ironic though. On NVDA and TSLA I think

Anons tell me what is going to happen tomorrow. I need to know.

>>55997136
Damn I wonder if my posting style is being modeled and analyzed...

>>55997159
I've modeled you using scipy on jupyter notebook. I know who you are.

>>55997148
you telling me there are uncircumcised chaps in this thread? Oy gevalt no wonder it has gone to shit.

>NZD

>>55997162
Oh no

I'm still poor

>>55997149
okay so wil lyou listne to my vocaroo if i break it dwn like IN REALLY simple terms why AXSM is a good short like i can talk like rly rly basic english

>>55997180
Who draws shit like this unironic?

>>55997181
Explain as you would a child

Another government shutdown threat?
Markets!?

>>55997135
>Wirkst immer so verbittert
Was? Ich?

hey faggorinos why didnt you tell me to buy this yesterday? fucking uselss faggots i could have bought calls and been retired from waging


HOW THE FUCK DO I FIND THIS SHIT THE DAY BEFORE IT HAPPENS???????

>futures

>>55997295
Ja, du. Ist es das Leben in Deutschland?

Don't forget: tomorrow is the last trading day before a three day weekend
Shit could get intense
Prepare yourselves

>>55996980

>>55996633
I hecking love bonds. The magics really in the spreads.

FX markets are more retarded in my opinion. I really don’t get it, it’s like the second you bring a currency market into the equation people go bathshit crazy trying to find ways to make a simple trade complex as hell.

>>55996698
Literally a short trap. Don't be retarded. The company is heavily undervalued with nice margings for its sector and it was undervalued due lawsuits. Eventuallt it will megapump as the business has actually grown a bit since it started to dump

>Tech will suffer the wrath of FED as they cannot survive without ZIRP or low rates (bobos last year)
Oh nyo, what happened? Earnings have either gotten better or stagnated at really good levels. Frickin Dell released earnings yesterday night after markets and guess what? Easily beat predictions. You guys got a week of massive selling two weeks ago but come on, did anyone expect Apple/MSFT/Amazon/NVDA to actually drop meaningfully?
Tech is the best way to hedge against everything and outperforms every sector in the past 10 years due to the massive influx of money and innovation. You cannot stop progress

>>55997338
Join me in my crusade buying NVDA puts with closer to Election Date's expiration. Or maybe past it.

>>55997426
>Dell
>July 2022: Rev 26,42 Mrd
>July 2023: Rev 22,93 Mrd
Mrd = Billions. Numbers might be in Euros. Still LESS

From their report:
>• Revenue of $22.9B, down 13% Y/Y and up 10% sequentially

Kek, you know it's only the AI bullshit that is holding this thing together.

nigger

>>55997426
They expected something with 20$ billion.
>Yeah let's overshoot by assuming about 20% y/y less revenue DURING AN AI BULLRUN

>>55997426
Yeah these balance sheets are really s-strong guys

>>55997469
>>55997461
>>55997426
You better expect Dell to get trashed at the open like NVDA was a day after earnings.

>>55997426
>Oh nyo, what happened?
We learned that QT is actually QE for megacaps
>ZIRP
>Companies lock in low interest rate loans
>Fed raises rates
>Companies now earn 5% on cash borrowed at 2%

>>55997426
>jewish math never lies

thanks for the fake data

>>55997426
bobos cant understand that the market is rigged to go up. we are inevitable.

>>55997500
so basically destruction of middle class and poors but all the rich kikes who own companies get rich with our tax dollars

>>55997508
If the market is rigged to go up, why isn't the fed turning on the money printer yet?

>>55997521
Because it still is going up?

>>55997316
Ja, das ist einer der Faktoren, um es fromm auszudrücken.
Bist du ebenfalls aus dem DACH Raum?

>>55997511
This is correct. And I coulda woulda shoulda been a rich kike (relatively speaking) but I chose to be a bobo instead. What's done is done, there's no going back now. I'm here forever

>>55997528
Tell me more about your brain damage, amigo. :)

reminder that according to germans, Arbeit macht frei.

bitcoin... i dont fell it boys...

>>55997521
who said we need the money printer

>>55996629
Wow what a slut SP500 is

>>55997530
Ja, Deutschland. Lagarde so nah.

>>55997539
Is the market going down?

>>55996633
Fuckin' miracles

Down 1.2% in Q3,
As a company, would you see
Investment potential in me?

>>55997573
Ticker: QUOO?

>>55997500
Don't forget a lot of their loans has a maturity date of fuckin forever (from my perspective at least, not the companies' of course) so they've got more than enough time to pay them back.

Also, thanks for the (you)s everyone. It is always too easy to bait with ultra-bullish sentiments. The truth is that companies have managed better than expected despite this "difficult economic situation" (which quite truly isn't all that difficult for large/mega caps). Everyone expected them to go down the shitter and for normies and companies around the world to tighten their pockets but that hasn't happened. The buying power is still there. Normie spending has stagnated at almost ATH (which is fuckin crazy to me but whatever... I guess they have too much money... where they get them from and how sustainable that is, who knows?)
Just look at the expectations. They have been artificially lowered for most companies this year and I believe they will keep lowering them even next year as the lagging effects of rates will finally show their true colors.

>>55997464
That's a big vagina

>>55997591
>Mott Capital

>>55997575
more like status: quo

>>55997591
>3 new posts
The strong always survive the longest. The weakest link break first. Trickle up effect soon.

>>55997597
a wasted vagina

>>55997591
>>55997603
who tf is mott capital? and why do they keep water marking other peoples images? lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGAAhzreGWw

>>55997621
motts is an applesauce company

>>55997625
>motts is an applesauce company
>Owner: Keurig Dr Pepper
Should've known that the whiteman can't have anything for himself, anymore.
>can only drink two beers per week, now. Thanks to brandon
This Canadian fellow was a canary in the coalmine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj-pYPiAR18
Time to short all beer companies, lads.

>>55997597
>4 U

>>55997660
That's one professionally unprofessional mask.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTY6H9RWiqQ
>German being called the sick man of Europe again
Boundless gains if you invest in German cheapies right now. Germany is like a Phoenix and always outdoes itself after being crushed

>>55997464
>>55997620
3d women are truly repulsive. Thank God I will soon be able to retire with my beautiful wife and stacks of OIL.

US approves first-ever military aid to Taiwan through program typically used for sovereign nations

A Taiwanese soldier holds a Taiwan national flag during the annual Han Kuang military exercises at Taoyuan International Airport in Taoyuan, Northern Taiwan, July 26, 2023. The Biden administration has approved the first-ever transfer of US military equipment to Taiwan under a program typically saved for sovereign nations, according to a notification sent to Congress on Tuesday, August 29, 2023.
A Taiwanese soldier holds a Taiwan national flag during the annual Han Kuang military exercises at Taoyuan International Airport in Taoyuan, Northern Taiwan, July 26, 2023. The Biden administration has approved the first-ever transfer of US military equipment to Taiwan under a program typically saved for sovereign nations, according to a notification sent to Congress
—
The Biden administration has approved funding for the first-ever transfer of US military equipment to Taiwan under a program typically saved for sovereign nations, according to a notification sent to Congress on Tuesday.

The package – which is part of the State Department’s foreign military financing (FMF) program – totals $80 million and will be paid for by US taxpayers.

“FMF will be used to strengthen Taiwan’s self-defense capabilities through joint and combined defense capability and enhanced maritime domain awareness and maritime security capability,” the department wrote in its notification to Congress that was reviewed by CNN.

A State Department spokesperson confirmed the first-ever transfer.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/30/politics/us-taiwan-foreign-military-financing-program/index.html

Sorry NVDA niggas. No survivors

>>55997591
Companies had a fuck ton of cash on hand before this all started and my theory about consumers is that boomers dying en mass transfered alot of wealth to Millenials

So is the techtranny going to refute this?>>55997461

>futures

>>55997776
>my nasdaq puts

>>55997776
Praise the sun

>>55997776
Sad ass
>>55997763
Better than expected and if adjusted for rates and the current economic down-winds, then it's really good. In terms of absolute values, yes it is slightly worse... too bad everything is relative and what matters is the "expected" values. Even then, even in terms of absolute values, there seems to be a reversal in terms of margins as they are finally starting to go back up (which is bullish of course).
The year 2022 priced in everything bearish for tech. Hell, NASDAQ fell by almost 40%, is that not enough for you?

Bros, this excess pumping is very worrisome.

More and more companies are laying off workers and banks/car loan companies are telling customers to fuck off and go somewhere else. Michael burry and warren buffet dumped a shitload of money too.

Its like the calm before the storm. Brace yourselves lads.

>>55997805
But July 2022 was allegedly a recession. War was fresh, prices for Oil and gas high. AND NO AI.

>expected values
This can't help you forever. You can't say
>See I expected them to make 10$
and think the company will have 1 trillion market cap

ECB's Villeroy: Holding rates high long enough matters more than the level.


ECB's Villeroy: We are quite close to a peak in interest rates, but we're far from the point where we could contemplate cuts.

NEW MONTH RETARD POOOOOMP

And so it begins…

>>55997829
He will pump the market.

how do you cure a stomach ache?

>>55997847
Depends on what’s causing it.
Bananas or ginger if you’re looking for something non-medication

Crab til US and more crab then

AURUBIS CO(M)P(PER)UTER

should i dump AVGO today?

>>55997829
He has always been a contradictory retard. Actually, the entire ECB is like this. They will say "it seems a pause is in order" and then in another week completely reverse and say "actually it seems the inflation is still too high and more rate hikes are necessary". What they say doesn't matter. They follow FED and that's it. Even if Europe had inflation of 10%+ (which many countries still do have), they would still follow FED. We europeans are just like that.
>>55997819
War is bullish, oil was a shock for producer prices (fueling inflation of course), gas is now higher than during the "war" (at least here in my fuckin Europoor country, like wtf?).
Pricing in happens rather quickly and it seems the market over-priced the negative effects of everything seeing as most of tech fell to completely insane low levels. MSFT fell to 250 despite great earnings and continued increased demand... and so on.
Expectations go a long way, m8. It's all rigged to make it look better. Just look at NVDA's expectations. They themselves said revenue is gonna be $12B+, yet the retarded experts expected $11B, thus making their $13B revenue look even better... why? It's all rigged man
>>55997847
I am personally a fan of cloves and apple cider vinegar.

>>55997877
>war is bullish
>while the whole stock market tanked
Stfu

>>55997815
sip now
consoom later

Oil already going for 84, OVER for CPI

>woke up to find I autoslurped the wheat flash dip at open
autoslurping is your friend

>MAJOR CHINESE BANKS CUT INTEREST RATES ON YUAN DEPOSITS

uh oh I smell a shitstorm brewing

>>55997890
Sorry, I should have been more specific. War is bullish in a long-term outlook. Naturally, everything will dump as it starts but statistically, war is bullish for the stock market. Many reasons for that: it's inflationary, good for the defense sector (which is huge in the US), black market booms, and so on.
I personally believe the dump can be attributed mostly to pricing in the rates and the "recession" and of course oil prices driving up producer prices.
>>55997899
Heh, look at heating oil and gasoline. Expectations of higher CPI are already being priced in though since a m/m CPI of +0.8% is expected. JPow is gonna have a tough time deciding now.
Assuming the job market alleviates somewhat but CPI keeps coming in hotter and hotter, he's gonna be in a real pickle

>>55997109
JUST TELL US THE GODDAMN THESIS!

>BREAKING: Applications for home purchase mortgages have dropped to their lowest level since April 1995

Remind me again what happened in 1995?

>>55997922
I actually start losing "faith" in him. He will most likely bitch out. Skip september and maybe hike next meeting, but HOPE TO DEAR GOD, CPI will go down, so that he doesn't have to hike.

EU on the other hand will hike once more at least I think.

>>55997931
Hmm.. the Lion King was 1994 I think. Can't tell you.

I wanted to buy the dip. I'm like 70% cash. You promised a crash, Bobo, I'm happy with a minor correction. Where the fuck is it? ANSWER ME BOBO FUCKING SHITS.

THEY KEEP PUMPING

>>55997996
>>55998002
3490 was the bottom in October 2022. You missed it

>>55997847
Same anon, think i’d had food poisoning. Someone said cod liver oil and I threw that back up and now all i can taste is cod liver oil.

Just woke up, saw that my TotalEnergies are up bigly, as it should be, powered up my work PC, saw that I only have one email, I'll just lurk the interbutt or fap instead of working.
Today is a good day.

My high risk picks:
CRSP
KTOS
NTLA
PBR
AVAV

Japan's stock market just hit a 33 year high. We're finally healing

>>55998047
The dump is going to be cataclysmic

>>55997931
97/98 there was the asian/russian financial crises respectively

>literally every single chart is double topping
>right before a long weekend
Man
I remember this shit in 2020 and being so confused that everyone was just dumping for literally no reason. Then people told me "duh, september is the dump month, never hold into labor day weekend!". Kek.

>>55998044
I see you've been innovating, anon, that's hot.

Poop, financially speaking.

LMAO Aurubis Computer dropped 15% today. They warned about profits. It seems that past and current employees were stealing metals over several years worth over 100 million Eur

Yields...

>>55998220
Where's the maid? How am I supposed to read this shit?

>>55998220
opps wrong pic

>>55998220
WHERE DID SHE GO

>>55998229
Oh never mind. We’re good.

>>55998229
yo, watch out, she's losing grip. Only two fingers!

Did her fuckin skirt become shorter?

>>55998240
naw its the same picture I have always been using

Italian GDP WDA (Q/Q) Q2 F: -0.4% (exp -0.3%; prev -0.3%)
- Italian GDP WDA (Y/Y) Q2 F: 0.4% (exp 0.6%; prev 0.6%)

Italy's stock market LITERALLY pumped into a recession. Absolute joke what this stockmarket has become

>>55998245
I like this more than the regular maids

>>55998259
Well, the Italian market is severely undervalued, no? It still hasn't recovered from the 2008 dump (kek). Nobody takes the Italian stock market seriously... but yes, it has been crazy strong this year despite pretty bad numbers

>>55998200
>It seems that past and current employees were stealing metals over several years worth over 100 million Eur

Do their sites not have fences or security or something?

>>55998273
>severely undervalued, no?
Do the maths for me

Why are you chuds hating on our overlord and saviour?

>>55998300
Not sure if top or bottom signal

>>55998363
Top signal. Shits about to hit the fan, and they need to increase public opinion of certain actors, so they don’t get blamed.

>>55996633
>He thought inflation peaked.
>He thought the bond market bottomed
>He thought the regional banking sector collapse was behind us.
Checked.

I just started investing last week and I've already made 10$

The amount of grifter ads on youtube is insane. Fuckin targeted bullshit. I don't want to watch them but sometimes so tempting. Currently I see one about AI. With a guy who was famous in german tv (moderator) years ago, Hans Meiser. He really needs the money it seems.

>>55998389
LMAO right after the AI grifter ad, Solar energy grifter ad.

>>55998382
winning.

>>55996650
I bought a few puts on MMM 2 days ago... let's just say it wasn't looking too good for me yesterday

>>55996700
Black Friday approaches, shits going to hit the fucking fan this morning, check FAGGOT'S

>>55998259
recession means increased likelihood of brrrr. asset holders have completely decoupled from wagies.

ok so it seems this market has reached a point where even a slight correction cant even occur and we just insta pump on hopium fumes.

question is:
>are they going to pump it sept/oct to price us out? it feels like the rally is running out of steam to me + all the extreme bearish macro world econ climate. i get extreme bobo vibes from it all but the market is pumping regardless.

>>55998435
If we surpass 4600 and thus the US downgrade it literally is all a scam.

>August CPI comes the 13th
>we pump until then
Is that it? how's the market pumping like no tomorrow when we KNOW that the august CPI is gonna be shit?
it's really a self-fulfilling prophecy

>>55998229
I prefer big titty maids, but this will do for now

>>55998447
It really is just a prewritten/predetermined programm.

>>55998300
ESG bullshit needs to fuck off already

EU literally pumping on across the board shitdata. I think almost every data was worse m/m and worse than expected

>>55998300
>All he wanted to do
kek, imagine The Economist publishing this soft-serve whitewashing shit. The media is dead.

>>55998441
i get the sense like perhaps the majority of bearish news is just a bear trap and news is making out to be worse than it is so retail gets priced out and then buys the top.

>>55998506
It's not news in the sense of somebody saying some shit. This is a real rating by one large rating agency. Sure the market can interpret it differently. Stocks are the most schizo asset, the most scamwicks I've ever seen, OIL is a baby in comparison. Maybe because it actually has a meaning which price Oil has unlike stocks where it's nothing but gambling for the lols, cause it has not the same impact as Oil.

>>55998485
Bottom has been reached, time to pump now, what is it you don't understand? Heh, I'm just gonna stick to index funds from now on, fugg the EU markets

>>55998485
The European markets are held together by denial and ignorance. I was in Canary Wharf last week for a meeting and it's a ghost town. Everybody is bleeding AUM. I was in JP Morgan and HSBC - change programmes are being shuttered like mad. The City is fiddling while it burns.

>>55998527
>Bottom is in guys, hehe
>Don't look at that crater in 2008-2009
>THIS is the bottom

>>55998527
>bottom
sure m8. now who is gonna buy shit from Yurope now that the world economy is slowing down?
Our only savior is if Xi turns the printer on, and they won't because the Yuan will tank. So to me, we're still pretty much fucked

>>55997702
>>55998485
Germany is highly undervalued and underrated. Once the manufacturing slump which is world wide goes away it will pump like crazy.

>>55998527
Wait I forgot
>Buy BAYER, BASF, COVESTRO
>BUY CLARIANT NOW TOO
>SIEMMENS
>BMW

Should I sell my ACMR? They're a shady chink firm but the price keeps going up

shill me some sauerkraut stocks senpai
>besides bayer and gasf

>>55998558
Isn't all of China going up because of rate cuts, stimulus and stamp duty cut (-50%?) So, it might not even be something specific but just a full market pullup.

Same thing happening with greece currently, where every shitcompany is pumping.

>>55998568
Germany is at the epicentre of the coming EU recession, not sure why you'd want to put money there.

>>55998577
nigger did you fail world history

>markets

>>55998581
You are clearly quite stupid.

>>55998543
driven by what?

If oil is so bad then why did oil make me so much money already?

>>55998587
idk I tend to agree with this >>55998543

>>55998577
>Germany is at the epicentre of the coming EU recession
You don't understand the fundamentals
>Manufacturing slump
>All time low unemployment
>Massive supply chain changes
All this benefits Germany as it is the main provider world wide of industrial manchinery and its economy has a shortage of labor, so all the skilled workers of shrinking industries like chemicals can move to ultraproductive mittlestands and increase the productivity of the country.
>>55998568
Infineon for large caps. I think there are more upside in small caps

>>55998568
Südzucker (sugar and alternatives)
Manz Automation (some weird stuff)
Jungheinrich (Warehouse stuff I think)
Semperit (Rubber (Austrian)
Delignit (woodstuff for cars and house)

I'm a bear but these are some I'm looking into buying maybe when the time is right (whenever that is)

>>55998583
Ready to burst at the seams? Bullish signal if there ever was one.
>>55998543
Extremely low P/E, high profits/margins, very good guidance from most companies, slowing economy for most people (since europoors are more affected by inflation), China being unpredictable, US soft landing... If DAX wasn't so close to ATH, I would be buying companies like BMW but I just can't :(. Maybe if the index were to fall by 4-5%

>>55998615
Wait wtf, Delignit has webpage in german, english and ukrainian. I'm not so sure anymore. lol

>>55998599
What are you even asking? Do you realize how much machinery you need to create a parallel supply chain from China and that literally the only provider for those machines in most cases are German?
Companies like VW doing poorly is unironically bullish for Germany because their workers can move to way more productive companies like Mittlestands

>>55998613
>akshually Germany doing badly is good for Germany
oh good to know

>>55998613
the moment people stops buying new cars, that's over. We've got a nice cycle last 2 years. I betcha they'll be a slowdown in car sales coming years, and that will impact germany, with the added effect, that their market share will shrink due to the massive expansion of chink EV.

>>55998300
His mistake was having the wrong goals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClbmWkbocoY

>>55998577
Don't be daft. Sure, Germany is in trouble because it built an economy on cheap Russian gas and overengineered diesels but the EU is large enough to just see the economic centre of gravity shift which is good for everyone.

>>55998631
>Companies like VW doing poorly is unironically bullish for Germany because their workers can move to way more productive companies like Mittlestands

I read this stuff and I feel like I'm on reddit.

>>55998633
>oh good to know
No, retard, Germany is bearish short term but bullish long term. This means to buy the dip

>>55998631
low cost autos from the likes of vag are going to suffer severe competition from asian manufacturers as the ev push rolls through. that and as society continues to urbanise and zoomers don't really drive.

>>55998650
>bearish short term
>so buy now BEFORE the dip

>>55998631
Pretty much, whenever a part goes at a manufacturer anywhere you’re either hoping you have spares or there’s fresh spares in Germany or you’re not making anything till it’s produced by a mittelstrand.

>>55998650
You beclown yourself.

>>55998636
>chink EV’s

The ones that set on fire all the time. No thanks.

>>55998653
>German economy is just cars
You don't get it. The core of the German economy revolves around industrial machinery and advanced components through smaller companies.
>>55998631
When there is a manufacturing boom German small caps pump very highly and then dump when there is any sort of slow down. Right now there is a global manufacturing slump and global relocation of supply chains from China to other countries like Mexico and Vietnam.

>>55998654
I doubt there is much room for dipping. Most German companies trade at a discount globally for their sector
>>55998661
t. 0 argument retard.
>>55998657
Most people here are NEETs. I work in manufacturing which is why I am a German maximalist.

>>55998667
you got the figures for manufacturing per sector?

>>55998673
And manufacturers will pay anything to get production going again especially now with a supply shortage.

>>55998673
Lower your tone

Fucking oil

how are you all playing this market right now? i dipped out at the top at around 4600 all cash. i thought about buying back in on this correction but decided to hold out for Sept. now im really not sure about it, ill stick to my game plan though. want to park my cash for like a month but not sure what the best option would be i have usd and local currency

>>55998667
>When there is a manufacturing boom German small caps pump very highly
Not specific just to Germany. You should also look into Swedish "small/mid" manufacturing stocks as they tend to move in an extreme fashion. Stocks like NCAB, NOTE, Hanza all gave +200% returns before the collapse of 2022 and if you slurped 2022 you would now be +100% at least.
These companies usually fly under the radar of normos so they don't get much attention but they really are important. These small manufacturing companies form the backbone of our industrial civilization and typically massively export to much larger companies and the gubbermint (especially the defense sector which is going tremendously)
I love these specialized "smaller" stocks which always give insane returns because they have so much room to expand and because they have stuff that the larger companies have a desperate need of

>>55998704
>wheat slurp below $600
>cattle live/feeder spread
>short on stocks that feel too high
>swing stocks that feel too low
>short EUR/USD whenever it goes back up

>>55998707
>all gave +200% returns before the collapse of 2022
>he thinks that means anything
>picrel

>>55998543
LOL

>>55998703

>>55998724
I cannot tell what this guy is. The guy in the back looks turkish, maybe a little more eastern like libanon or something. The guy in the front, I don't know.

And I'm a foreigner in germany, lol

>>55998678
https://www.statista.com/outlook/io/manufacturing/germany#value-added
https://es.statista.com/outlook/io/manufacturing/material-products/germany#value-added
Most material products (second link) are components for advanced industry (fabricated metals for machinery and chemicals). Machinery production is alredy a larger sector than automotive and its % of manufacturing is similar to that of Japan or France. Germany's dependence in automotive is overblown by most people that don't understand how diversified their economy actually is

>>55998701
You have been incredibly agressive while giving 0 arguments, you fucking moron. Suck a dick you massive faggot

>>55998744
he looks like a furry

Any china news for a fellow YANG ganger?

>>55998770
>>I read this stuff and I feel like I'm on reddit.
>>bearish short term
>>so buy now BEFORE the dip
>incredibly aggressive
This is why foreigners laugh at germans.

>>55998703
>SAUDI CRUDE OIL EXPORTS PLUNGE IN AUGUST TO 5.6MLN B/D
Holy shit they were supposed to export 9

>>55998745
ty anon

>>55998806
when is /shalegang/ coming back?

>>55996644
NUMBERS

>>55998745
you don't understand that the automotive industry and machinery industry are interdependent, and ultimately it comes down to how much cars they sell. If the automotive industry sneeze, everyone gets a cold in germany, except the pharma.

The market is just algos rotating different stocks and indices everyday.
Today Sweden is pumping, also shitdata for them, still, it suddenly moons, despite all others being weaker. Yesterday it dumped harder than others on the other hand.

Baking, financially speaking.

>>55998851
>automotive industry and machinery industry are interdependent
All the economy is interdependent. Textile sales will also collapse if cars stopped from being sold. Even if car manufacturing moved entirely to China, the high margin suppliers would still be German, which is why Germany exports basically as much as the US with an economy 5 times smaller.

>>55998869
It's too early you fucking retard, kill yourself unironically

>>55998884
Haha tricked! I was only pretending.

>>55998898
le master trole 2023

>>55998898
xD

>>55998884
It’s never too early. I’d have 6 or 7 /smg/ threads up at a time if I had it my way, just to make all the crypto trannies seethe.

>>55998818
I read that as shemale gang.

>>55998869
Nah dude, not ALL the economy. I've been in the automotive industry and I am now a semifag. The semi are pretty fucked right now cause nobody buy new phones. Which is not the case for cars (for now). So industries have their cycles and are independent from each others. I could see next year a down cycle in the auto sectors, which would spread to manufacturing and metal, while Semi equipment would go up to equip the new fabs in germany. Until now the auto industry had almost no impact on the semi industry (like 8%) but now it becomes slightly bigger because of the EV shit. Still is a small percentage in revenue compared to other product like smartphones, laptop, servers etc.
Get a grip on how industries affect each others m8

>>55998909
>55998909
>>55998904
>>55998898
:D :D :D

For me, it’s dividend growth. My current favorite stocks are COST and MSFT. I’m starting to stack NVDA because that will be the next big dividend stock

>I’m starting to stack NVDA

>>55998970
Kek compounding 0.70% dividends.

What's the buy? I have 30k to dump into something more risky.

>>55998984
Yes the starting yield isn’t big. That’s what I’m looking for. I like a small payout ratio because I want to invest in a thriving company not a struggling one. In 5 years my yield on cost will be 2% with high dividend growth. Plus I get share price appreciation

>>55998970
lel, yeah the stock might go from $500 to $200 but at least you'll get $0.039 four times a year.

>>55999006
Don't forget NVDA will probably do another split

>>55998806
america really, really pissed them off
they tried to contest the price caps and were basically told "shut up vassal faggot"
and now the petro dollar is dead and they're trading with china in the yuan and india in rupees

>>55999006
>>55999011
Keked and checked.

Rupees more like Poopies.

>>55999011
Yeah Microsoft and Costco might lose 60% in value. Realistically they will gain 60% in value

>>55999039
Yeah it's realistic for them to go from 30 P/E to 50 P/E.

>>55999039
I was talking about NVDA, keep up

>>55999065
Do you understand p/e? If their earnings grow (they have a great track record of doing so) the p/e shrinks until the share price rises to even if out. They have the highest p/e of all the big retailers because they’re just that much better

any baking cuckolds here??

also very tempted to go all in on my stock thats doing good

>>55999072
I was also a NVDA skeptic but you can’t ignore their last 2 earnings reports.

>>55999075
Just dont google Adyen if you want to know what a high p/e does with a negative quarterly result

>>55999075
Yeah sure the company won't earn what you paid for it for 50 years maybe 35 after revenue growth? Seems like a bargain! Only 35 years? Count me in!

>its september already

I also love how dividend fanboys don't understand that dividends are subject to change and most often decrease with stock value. So you're getting double heemed.

>>55999021
MbS turns out to be surprisingly based

Wake me up when September ends.

>>55999097
Crazy right? It literally feels like August. I want off this ride, bros.

>>55999075
Tell that Vinfast

>>55999100
>he doesn't know that historically the dividend drop has ALWAYS been less than the stock drop
>even when the financial crisis happened dividend across the S&P only dropped 25%

>"The same is true of dividend ETFs. Take the Vanguard High Dividend Yield ETF (VYM), which is invested in more than 400 companies. When a fund casts its net so wide, it is almost guaranteed to hold some quality companies and some that are much weaker (and susceptible to cutting their dividends). Sure enough, VYM’s dividend payments were hit hard during the financial crisis. The fund's total dividend payments peaked in 2008 at $1.44 per share before falling to $1.17 in 2009 and $1.09 in 2010, representing a peak-to-trough decline of about 25%. Annual dividend payments didn’t recover back to their 2008 peak until 2012, but an investors' cost of living would have almost certainly increased during this time.
In other words, if a retired investor owned 25,000 shares of VYM, he would have received $36,000 of dividend income in 2008.By 2010, his annual dividend income had fallen to about $27,000 – a drop of more than $725 per month. Depending on his budgeting and margin of safety, life could suddenly have become much more stressful."

>>55999021

>>55999121
after afganistant and ukraine no one fears the US
hence stepping away from its financial system

>>55999126
>after afganistant and ukraine no one fears the US
>hence stepping away from its financial system

>>55999120
I am so jealous of those that snagged Exxon during Covid. Imagine those divvies now, holy crap. Hell, even if you bought Apple 10 years ago you are getting very impressive divvies now. Divvies are underrated

>>55999126
lol
lmao

>>55999100
Not the dividends I invest in. Only ones with a track record of raising dividends. Show me the last time Microsoft or Costco cut their dividend
>inb4 T
Never held a position. Not my problem

>>55999121
>he thinks the UAE are Saudi Arabia

>>55999135
you can laugh all you want, the dollar is at a historical low of central bank reserves
and this doesn't even include gold which is over 10% and been steadily growing since the financial crisis

>>55999128
dude you got UAE and the Saudis confused, shut the fuck up retard lol

>>55999147
The combat strength of the Saudi Army consists of four armoured, five mechanized, two light infantry brigades, one airborne brigade

>>55999168
>/biz/ - Business & Finance

Baking

>>55999131
Shut up dumb divifag, you got $2.24 of dividends (before tax) on AAPL over the last 10 years, as opposed to $170.98 of stock appreciation. Even without divvie tax dividends would be 1.3% of your gains lmao.

>>55999100
I like when I get money every month for doing nothing

if the dump has been imminent for 2+ weeks, why do i feel like im bag holding all these mining stocks that cmmg pushed??

somehow i bet if i switched back to gambling in clown mode, id get dumped on

all of this shit is rigged isnt it.

>>55999189
You are risking your capital.

>>55999160
Your statement has no merit either way dog. All the arabian gulf oil producing countries depend on US protection and human resources they can't even pull the oil out of the ground on their own.

>>55999190
You sound like a retard? Why would you heavily position yourself in mining stocks? Why is the only alternative you can see options gambling. Just buy good companies and hold them. It really is that easy

>>55999189
>I like when my money goes up or down wildly while being given back a variable small fraction of it at regular intervals

>>55999211
THE DOOMPENING
-_-

>>55999204
wow my capital is at risk when investing? Oh my god

>>55999188
Bro, my mum has about $2m in Apple at $27/share... those are some nice divvies alright? With all the splits and appreciation, it's just that something extra you get. I am not saying that divvies are the holy grail but it's nice to have. Same thing with Pepsi and many other companies which keep raising their divvies. For boomers that invested early, it actually gives some nice gainz

>>55999204
I never liked new dehli anyway

>>55999229
I'm not sure I even calculated it right lmao but regardless, the stock price gains are nicer than the dividends, and when a stock isn't doing well the dividends don't make up for that.

>>55999229
Stop saying that. Dividends can only go down. They are bad ok

>>55999226
>My capital is at risk for a 300%
>My capital is at risk for 0,5% div

>>55999242
Care to elaborate? O has outperformed the S&P since inception

>>55999229
For these people that bought in 20-30 years ago it's something different. They hold it as passive income, the stock would have to crash down and file bankruptcy to hurt them financially. For you buying in now on the other hand...

>>55999252
>Just because it outperformed in the past it will outperform in the future,

>>55999270
>>55999270
>>55999270

>>55998229
Imagine the smell.

>>55996644
>>55996655
Oh my......