/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55976140
Jep. But this time it's going to be worse. Because the scam was run on a global level. My bet it's going to take about 50 years to unwind this shitshow with the Westphalian order completely breaking, guerillas, pirates, highway man and "pmc" becoming the norm also in the west and basically a repetition of the 30 year war on steroids

>>55976140
How does the money supply go down like that?

>>55976183
Deflation
Deathspiralling deflation
No trust

>>55976140
hello retarded nigger. we'll say it one more time. but this will be the last so pay attention:

1 bitcoin = 1 bitcoin

>>55976140
2 weeks chud

>>55976182
And that is the optimistic scenario?

>>55976208
I won't exchange the meat I hunted for your buttcorn.

Number go down?

Wait isn't this a chart of inflation % change?

>>55976218
Yes. Worst case scenario would be global communism after a devasting nuclear war under the leadership of some centralized corrupt entity like the UN

>>55976208
>>55976211
I know you baggie fags hate to hear this but starving peasants won't buy butt corns

>>55976182
Stop playing so many video games you fucking mush mouth retard.

>>55976228
You don't even hunt.
I can use my BTC to buy things.
Shit will never hit the fan.
You're gonna be a loser for the rest of your life.

>>55976284
Holding an investment doesn't make you a baggie.
Secondly, no one thinks "baggie" is an insult.
Third, calling it "buttcorn" won't nullify the use and value BTC has.
Fourth, shit will never hit the fan, you'll be a loser for the rest of your life.
Fifth, get raped by a pack of niggers.

>>55976252
>Oy vey you have to rely on debt and pay interest to us or else civilization is over!

>>55976311
People say I have a hoarse voice and I haven't really played video games for 3 years. The VR fps was more simulating and training what I know is going to happen and dry preparation of the brain.
Sorry that's the outcome and the situation of the economy, the situation among security forces and the trust among nation states detoriating is pointing in that direction.
You can thank Boomers, older GenX, the tech bruh crowd, bankers and of course politicians with incentives to fill their own pockets as long as they were in power

>>55976317
Oh I hunt. .308, deers

OP please come back and elaborate a bit more

>>55976384
What is there to elaborate?

>>55976183
>>55976384
Fed buys US bonds
Let's the bonds mature and the money disappears and never enters into circulation again
Deflationary events this extreme (in an overeleveraged economy) always leads to extreme economic downturns, risk on assets will take the heaviest hits because people need to liquidate assets to pay off their debt (deflation makes debt worth more) and to buy real assets

That's the gist of it anon, it's a mechanical process that starts with negative money supply growth

>>55976404
To reinforce this point
>Deflationary events this extreme (in an overeleveraged economy) always leads to extreme economic downturns
look at pic related

>>55976404
so whats the best move in this case?

>>55976420
cash is king, never fight the fed.

>>55976420
No debt, shelter, something to eat and something to fence off hungry unprepared plebs, best in at least .308 semi automatic

>>55976384
Also the process of letting the bonds maturing in the Fed's balance sheet is called quantatative tightening, it sucks money away from the economy, the rate hikes lowers the amount of credit in the economy not the total supply

>>55976404
Could the Fed turn around and reverse that process again?
Thats what the market expected today after the bad jobs numbers.

>>55976452
If the Fed even hints at a rate cut or QE markets will go absolutely crazy and pump like you've never seen before which will bring inflation back, that's the thing with debt, you either pay it off and have deflation or you print money to make the debt worth less, there are no other options.
In the end I think the Fed will pick the inflationary route because a depression would be too extreme, in this case the "2% inflation target" will be a thing of the past

>>55976417
wow

>>55976473
I listen to Peter Schiff
And he says as soon as the Fed does that, the Dollar will be toast and bond yields will blow out, leading to a souvereign debt crisis

>>55976500
>And he says as soon as the Fed does that, the Dollar will be toast and bond yields will blow out, leading to a souvereign debt crisis
And he's correct

((They)) have had enough of the goyims. Time for the purge!

>>55976473
>>55976516
Powell gives me the impression that he wont compromise on inflation. Just my hunch
But they really are between a rock and a hard place

>>55976659
He won't. Depression is preferable to hyper inflation. The danger is economic deflation that's when Powell is going to flinch

>>55976500
> I listen to Peter Schiff

Hello, poor man

>>55976692
You think we're getting deflation?

>>55976737
Not sure. Durable goods orders scared me. China I expected, Europe kind of expected, the US didn't expect.

>>55976140

Didn't the housing market corrected as well? That means this won't happen.

>>55976782
Shiller is still correcting. Tomorrow mbs numbers and mortgage application as mortgage rates is going to make things clearer

>>55976194

But in a deflation the housing market would correct. Would it not? Would the boomers asset really correct?

>>55976140
Looks like according to your pic we over corrected and made up for all the money printing, can we stop with the overly high interest rates now

>>55976803
Yes, in a deflation boomers end up poor and broken eating cat food and their 401ks going up in smoke

>>55976798

Okay. make sense.

>>55976208
So 3 years at min and 52 years at most if going by historic trends

>>55976336
>Holding an investment doesn't make you a baggie.
Yes it does. Some bags are better than others, but you're still a baggie.

>>55976837
Pending still looks like absolute crap. Which isn't necessarily bad depending on expectations. The advertising blogs like reuters try to meme a pause. Tomorrow is going to be an important day with pce qoq as well

>>55976208
Picture is gold almost all the way. Even post 1972 everybody just played along with the US but kept their goldm

retard, it's in reaction of the inflation we literally just had
the bottom's in

>>55976140
The money supply shrinks by 3% but didn't they print like 40 or 60% of all USD in the last 3 years? Can someone explain this to me

>>55976925
Where did that liquidity go to? Yes equities, real estate, bonds and consumer goods all around the world. What happens if the liquidity that got borrowed and is collaterized by bonds, real estate and equities gets less? Yes prices go down and some positions get liquidated. What does happen when those positions get liquidated? Yes, people and businesses lose capital they can't use anymore to consume and invest, which of everything goes orderly leads to a recession or a small depression and if it goes too fast and unorderly and if unlucky deflation

>>55976925
People have become accustomed to all the free money. Going from +27% to -5% is a huge shock to the world economy.

DO I SHORT THE S&P500

>>55976798
Can you tell me how you learned to get this macro picture of the economy to be able to read it like a book? I keep seeing people who actually understand all the levers and paths that can be taken and their effects. I want to have that level of understanding but youtube is so full of specialists or retards.

>>55976140
>>55976182
>>55976183
>>55976194
>>55976208
>>55976211
>>55976218
>>55976228
>>55976248
>>55976252
So you fucks are telling me
>USD inflates for a hundred fucking years
>>a fucking century
>New inflation-resistant alternative comes out
>USD deflates
FUCK THIS BANANA REPUBLIC I WANT OUT

>>55977081
Experience, data comparison over time, logical rational thinking and it's not really like reading a book more like reading tarot cards - there is always uncertainty that needs to be accounted for

>>55976393
>What is there to elaborate
Why was there a huge bull run after the last time we went negative?

>>55976966
>>55976967
So 1., what do you do to protect yourself during this recession/depression besides buy ammo and food? Is cash king? Even with this kind of inflation? Are T bills even viable? And finally, how long would this last do you think? Is the US screwed or will this finally be a wake up call to practice sound fiscal policy?

>>55976208
>portugal
shit tiny country, their money was backed by Hopes and Dreams and A Suspiciously Small Pile of What We Were Told Was Supposedly Gold.
>spain
see above
>neders
their gold was real, at least! That's an improvement!
>France
Holy shit we decided the world reserve should have an ECONOMY? Like, a functional government, with an army and a navy and... and... BUSINESSES? What a stupendous ide- oh, it fell over.
>Britain
still small, but at least you have an economy that doesn't fall over. Oh, but Imagine "winning" to Germany so hard you stop being the global hegemon and bring in (for the first and only time in history) a unipolar world order, and you don't even get to run it kek
This list doesn't make the point it's trying to make. Those are european microstates, banana republics, meme-backed dreams involves a bit of gold leaf, followed by one (1) large economy on an inflationary system. It's almost laughable.

>>55977107
Mostly capital reserve requirements for banks getting reduced to literally 0, stimulus for plebs which made producers expect to make profits from selling stuff produced with durable goods to plebs and the china flu public consumption

>>55977105
Wish there was an author or some online education. I can tell by your previous post your understanding is holistic. I know what it's like to understand something so completely and wish I understood economics like that

>>55977135
Cash is king, short and medium treasuries are a sound option, if you feel funky and taking risk shorting or products that profit from fear in the markets. I don't know how long, the credit crunch is definitely here, deliquency on ccs is rising while there isn't any deliquency on mortgages or commercial loans, economy isn't really that bad yet, people have up to two jobs, but the durable goods orders got me spooked, my guess takes until mid '24 - early '25 if all goes down orderly and 50 years of shit if the plane crashes hard.
>Sound fiscal policy
>Administration elected for 4 years doing kick backs
Pick one

>>55977157
I mean I studied politics, macro economics, history and philosophy did my high school specialization in micro economic and read a lot. So yeah, that plays everything into this. I mean, you can read an intro into macro and micro to get the basics and the rest is experience and reading reading and more reading

>>55977107
massive stimulus (money printing) + pent-up demand + lack of supply from lockdown orders

>>55977202
I'd pick fiscal responsibility. Fuck kick backs I want my country back. But thank you for the thoughtful responses. I will start with the micro and macro econ studies. I hope it's just a recession.

>increase money stock by 40%
>decrease it 5%
Keep waiting for your worthless government shitcoin to gain value

>>55976140
I find it funny how no one understands that M2 is just bank deposits and money has been moving from the banks to other instruments some of which used to be counted under M3. The financial system is constantly evolving try to keep up.

>>55976336
talking about space gold makes this pic completely retarded. To get that gold here costs more then ever mining it. Also it isnt going to happen in my lifetime

>>55976182
Yes and all in just 2 more week can you believe it!

>>55976183
The debt ceiling being hit for a few months, we were deflationary on CURRENCY supply (fed notes aren't money) during that period as new bonds were not being sold by treasury. The nature of our rigged jewish fiat system requires treasury to always be going into further debt or the currency supply would vanish and cause total collapse, thanks to usury and the private jewish banking cartel known as the "Federal Reserve"

>>55976737
Anything to protect the boomers assets. They'll inflate. They do it every time.

>>55976182
Doomsayers have been freaking out for decades. Truth is we are more addicted to spending and buying than ever before.

We'd gladly trade 12+ hours a day doing work just afford 3 hours every evening. The hard collapse will be young people not willing to work, but that'll never happen since Immigrants are always being imported.

Economy will crash but in flashes, and most people will go through them like yearly occurrences. This is because transactions are moving faster than they ever have in history.

I can order 50 pieces of Jewelry from shein, epxect it in 2 weeks and find buyers for this crap in less than a month. They'll be some depressed single moms who purchases crap like that for simple gatherings then try to resell it.

It's even becoming more evident that services for goods are being accepted. But at a much faster rate than prior years. Handyman are paid in websites and business dev tools by zoomers who need their ac fixed.

Face it. Slow down of economies will be when we can't eat plastic anymore.

>>55976417
Yes but the reason the great depression was so bad is because the Fed continued to tighten even after the deflationary spiral formed, when they should have done the opposite an injected liquidity to stop it. It's the reason it's such a outlier on the graph. The Fed won't make that hasn't made that mistake since and has injected liquidity during whenever shit gets hairy.

>>55976140
>money supply went down
>money supply HAS TO keep going down

lmao you fool. it will V-shape recover and ignite the next bullrun

>>55978015
>>55976336
also, there can't be unlimited supply speed for pms. it might not be fixed, but it certainly isn't unlimited unlike for fiat.

>>55978094
You weeker want communism, that's obvious, and like every communist drooling retards you think you are going to be part of the politburo instead of just slaves

>>55978177
So you can predict the future? You know that people rather go slave for 18 hours a day and are happy instead of just saying fuck you? Are you mage or just a shizophrenic relying on questionable models with ad hoc assumptions and axioms that you cant prove?
I know for my part that there is a limit and that limit was already reached, where I rather become a highwayman or terrorist than let myself enslave for a commutard pipe dream and Boomer as oligopolist capital risk they took 40 years ago to live in the moment

>>55976404
>Let's the bonds mature and the money disappears and never enters into circulation again
No? The government pays off the bonds even if held by the fed

my grandpa still tells me stories how his crypto crashed in 1929

>>55976336
btc fees make it implausible as an actual currency and LN is centralized or has to be kept up 24/7

kaspa is the real solution

>>55978439
Read up on the capital optimization problem and how it is, no matter how much information you have unsolvable marxist retard here is the link
https://crookedtimber.org/2012/05/30/in-soviet-union-optimization-problem-solves-you/

>>55978458
No. Crapto currency remains crapto currency. A retarded public ledger that is an attempt to introduce communism through the backdoor and won't solve anything

>>55976182
Information moves too fast these days for it to take that long. We have until 2030 (at fucking most) before a catastrophic collapse happens.

>>55978472
>Be afraid goy
>Follow the Coudenhove-Kallegrist plan like a qtard
>"We" can solve it
Lmfao. It's not going to take until 2030, 2024 if you are not a communist or a retarded opportunist, looking forward to fight with you, if you are, see you through my scope before I cut your spine with .308

>>55976140
At this point wouldn't be surprised if US goes to war with Russia or China to fully reset, but not escalate too much that will lead to nuclear warfare as both countries know that is last minute defense

>>55978647
That might be the case, the Prigozhin assassination suggests this. Mr. P wanted to end the conflict by going all-in, Mr. Putin, a puppet of intsoc doesn't want that, why? Because he and Mr. Biden are playing a show for the world with using 1984 as a handbook, to give their respective industrial military complex stimulus packages

It's really time those people get killed and the UN and every other international organization and supra national organization burnt to the ground and their employees beheaded publicly

>>55976140
>% change from a year ago
>it was up 25% last year
>down 5% of 25% is still up 20%

>>55978647
Fuck off to /pol tourist
>2 more weeks

>>55978932
>/[Board]
Go back to >>>/p/lebbit

>>55978466
what backdoor?
or is this one of those statements where you actually lack the brain capacity to understand how it works so you just make up that there is a backdoor because it fits you retarded world view without any actual evidence?

>>55979018
Kyc, aml, regulations, cexes public ledger
Communism through the backdoor by trying to convert libertarian and anarchists to accept communism through greed. Pretty much failed. Only communists and mouth breather seem to be into crapto these days

>>55977101
Always do the opposite of the herd.
What does the herd avoids the most right now and believes it's the most stupid investment?
>physical silver

>>55976182
how many weeks do I have? 2?

>>55979766
Depends. September fomc is going to make things clearer, by todays numbers until now it should be a 25 bepis

Aaaand the market is running on retard hopium lets fight the fed again. Like if one adp employment number is the all end of a pivot or pause....

The Fed buys bonds to CONTROL INFLATION because they intend to print more money or assume a bovish stance in the near future, get it? Those alarmists guys turn EVERY single thing into a catastrophe, if a bar of gold fall in front of you, these guys will say it is a bad thing because it can fall on your head next time.

>>55979919
>All caps
>"Print"
Go be a retard in Beijing in Weibo chang

>>55976692
>the amount of copium on this post

>>55979927
>Instead of a counter argument, decides to make an ad hominem attack
Take your meds schizo

>>55980003
>Baggie wants line go up no matter the social costs even if it means potential state failure and sovereign debt crisis
Oh baggies

>>55976140
They are just giving them space to kick the can down the road, one more time.

>>55978690
Biden doesn't even know who the president is. ZOG runs his admin. What I want to know is with prigger gone who will run thae Vatican?

>>55976892
>>55976393
>>55976140
appreciated OP
thanks

>>55980116
Look at the spx future chart "we" are back at fighting the fed based on narratives about pauses and pivots based on selective numbers while core pce remains high.

The jews niggers and spics are probably going to manage to drive the USA into a deflationary deathspiral

>>55980106
now this is based

>>55977990
Is there a way to measure cash in the system as a whole? I don't mean tallying up the entire derivatives market, but maybe that's the only real way? The FED balance sheet is only a small piece of the puzzle, which I guess could be thought of as the necessary liquidity for institutions to settle amongst each other.

>>55980924
Ask yourself how many liabilities are hidden in public pensions and social security. It's a lot, socialism kills countries

>>55980983
>pensions
Good point, that's ghost money from the future and coming to fuck us once boomers retire. Hopefully the next society embraces small scale agriculture and tradition more than golf, faggotry, and sexual mutilation.

>>55981105
As written above, the best case scenario for the usa and the world is a 30 year war like situation on steroids, the worst case scenario is communist slavery. Both of those scenarios are going to see a deflationary deathspiral

>>55977139
Never post again

>>55976140
Bitshit is a commodity though
>>55976452
>>55976473
>>55976404
Yeah Fed in theory can do whatever they want but you have to look at the consequences of each decision.
Like anon's chart shows, when they do too much for too long things get fucked so it's pretty reasonable to assume the Fed has learned from previous mistakes and will be more tactile in their approach.
Assuming Powell is telling the truth about his plans which I think his previous actions support then we can expect rates to be topped or maybe another small hike of like .25 BPs.
In any case, the plan as he states it is to remain at these current rates or at least not cut them until things improve and you really have to ask yourself if everything is achieved why would the Fed cut at all? 5.5 isn't exactly high.
So me and my very limited knowledge of this subject feels inclined to believe that nothing changes until something first 'breaks'.
The Fed wants unemployment to increase
The Fed wants the housing market to soften
The Fed wants equities to let out some air.
The million dollar question is how is that achieved without creating some unforeseen significant damages since everything is intertwined in such a tight way where one sector such as housing or banking having unexpected issues could bring everything down with it far beyond expectations.

>>55981840
So? Even if some organization says they are, they are neither innovative nor are they used or have demand as payment option

>>55976182
>the two cynics calling out your doomerism both have dubs
Kek speaks in mysterious ways

>>55981867
Shared reality, atomization, chaos
You are fucked

>>55976252
The economy isn't beholden to credit, it's beholden to the flow of capital. There is a difference.

>>55981955
That's an opinion

>>55979039
That's not crypto, that's governments trying to kill it or at least limiting the damage it does to their kikery.

>>55981976
So you agree? The government or somebody else is trying to make butt corns a state controled communist surveillance tool and is succeeding

>>55981840
We're going to double digit rates. All that brain and you can't see the obvious.

>>55982003
Well, yeah, but that wasn't the original plan. Normalfags just ruin everything. Monero still works as intended.

>>55982039
Doesn't matter anymore. No shared reality, low trust society, total atomization, no perception of what is innovation an valuable leads to capital inefficiencies leads to ultimately deflation deathspirals

>>55982057
Agreed, but not related to crypto in particular other than that it's affected by this just as everything else is.

>>55982014
Not a chance, it would do way too much damage

It's so cool how you made this prediction off one indicator. I've been trying to work out how to predict the market, like everyone else forever, and all I had to do was follow this line

>>55976500
>Jewish man told me to buy his gold
>Jewish man's portfolio is only 5% gold, despite promoting it to others
>Jewish man doesn't believe in what he's telling you
But the general thing is right... just don't spend all your money on gold.

>>55982093
True, though it wasn't normal faggots, that would imply that there is a group that is a majority that shares a particular view on crapto. There isn't, there are many different fuzzy sets where the biggest set are people that simply don't care and see it as a whole as a useless gimmick

>>55982712
I mean people like the crypto bros on this board who buy literal satanic globohomo shit coins like chainlink or similar trash. None of them cares about crypto as currency, as a way to pay for things without making Jews rich and giving them power.

>>55982771
Funny you say chainlink as that crapto currency has at least a limited use case inside the ponziverse of crapto

>>55976208
1 usd = 1 usd, stupid fuck

>>55982824
How many crates of federal fmj .308 can I buy with $1

>>55982784
The logo is literally a kike symbol. Monero is the only useful crypto currency right now.

>>55982840
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/308-winchester?ca=brass

>>55982847
I'm not referring to symbols from fairy tales from the 4th millennia b.C from the levante that were created ny a bunch of Levantine mutts that got thrown out of bronze age cities because they were degenerates. Not particularly care about those, but inside the ponziverse that is crapto chinklink has a usecase certainly not a usecase that goes outside the ponziverse as it would be expected from a currency
>>55982856
At least I can buy ammunition, something useful to fullfil basic needs like security and protein acquisition with a dollar

>>55982039
Real question should be how many folks still use monero for what it was built for?
Privacy and all that shit, nobody's buying that anymore

>>55982897
You could check the feedback on sellers on darknetmarkets to get an indirect certainly not complete overview

>>55976692
I thought inflation was transitory

>>55976140
Bitshit wins either way anon. Market crash or hyperinflation

>>55982917
Mild inflation is great from a stabilizing consumer economic view because it makes people spend money, acquire assets and so keeps the wheels turning

>>55982889
Yeah, the use case is to connect all the CBDCs to enslave us. Not sure how that is a good thing.

>>55982897
Monero is the only crypto currency actually used as such. All the online black markets use it. Mexican cartels use it. The Jew hates it. The anonymity has held up so far and is improving over time. What's not to like?

>>55976140
What happened to commodities during the same time period?

>>55982897
You might not care about monero but I'm sure you take privacy and data security seriously unless you're just too dumb to know how important that is

Protocols like sylo are prioritizing users communications data and you think that doesn't matter?

>>55976140
I never understand how you doomers feel, the constant dread, the anxiousness, the feeling the world will go to shit... couldn't be me
>see dawae dramatically go down, go up to ath and then go down again
ha ha couldn't be me.... we're all going to be okay right guys?
guys?

>>55982989
I didn't judged it, cbdcs are never going to be anything. No shared reality, no capacities to enforce

>>55983111
Wasting your time trying to convince a Gen Z newfag about their privacy when the only thing they do is spend 10hrs on Tiktok everyday? Kek

>>55983321
They don't boomer. They are mostly worked to dead like if they are Japanese slave workers so your assets go line up. They should stop working, and start to do the nigger way and home invade boomers

>>55983277
CBDCs absolutely make no sense and should never happen

>>55983111
Monero is still very valid and we need more of those protocols prioritizing user data security and privacy

>>55983615
every country that run public tests with them the shit was rejected. The central African republic even jailed and I think executed its former central bank chair because of corruption in regard to the cbdc introduction and riots from niggers about the attempt to enforce cbdcs

>>55976140
You retards said the same thing in the last bull run, I will buy more of QANX dip when I make it I will shit on you all

>>55976182
>it's going to take about 50 years to unwind this shitshow
We gotta fight for the yung zoomies coming up in this world

>>55984046
First the security forces need to detoriate further which requires the last batch of boomers to leave the market, and cash out, also zoomers are by now mid 20, "we" have to kill politicians, journalists, university lecturers and ceos of oligopols for alpha and beta, together with zoomers

They are eventually going to manufacture another crisis, rev the money printers and drop interest rates again. Fudge the numbers, increase inflation target, whatever it takes

>>55976140
Good. I’m in cash. Let the price collapse commence

Any vix niggers in here? This might be one of the few times it's worth buying uvxy.

>>55984000
Just DCA, the best time to buy is in the bear market

>>55984298
Vix is a hell of a ride. Forget vix etfs, go straight for leveraged future contracts, stop loss absolutely necessary

>>55984404
That chart looks like a girl bent over in front of me, on her 18th birthday.

>>55984431
Jep. Natgas swinging is tame and stable compared to vix swinging

>>55984623
Tru the vix jew is the worst one of all.

>>55984641
The super duper secret strategy is having short and longs open with tight stop loses and reasonable take profits at the same time

>>55977139
Holy shit you are retarded.

As >>55981374 said, never post here again dumb nigger.

>>55982003
Ok, but

>Coin Tumbler Companies (This Includes BitCoin)
>Smart Contract Mixers (For example Ethereum and Tornado Cash)
>Private Coins (Such as Monero)
>Private Smart Contract Enabled Coins and Blockchains (Literally bridge Monero to Smart Contracts)
>Even prepaid credit cards to maximize anonymity

Making your crypto private is easier than ever before, even for Bit Coin or Ethereum.

>Hur Dur the state will just block down services if this is possible

They did strike down Tornado Cash. The Code is still there though.
You can't imprison code. Even banning it is impossible.

I am tired of brainlet boomers like you pretending technology isn't changing the financial sector.

>>55985040
The main issue remains, beside it being a communist surveillance tool through the backdoor, crapto has 0 usecases, 0 demand outside of scamming for more dollars and is a perfectly substitutable "product" at 0 production costs. It's worthless

>>55984679
I see you like to shlong too
A man of culture

>>55985101
At an average of 3.5% swings daily, hell yes

>>55976317
>I can use my BTC to buy things.
Good luck using it to buy food during a crisis.

>>55981955
>>55981960
Credit IS capital, from the lender's perspective. (your slave perspective doesn't matter)

>>55985180
Ah the Benny Bernake scam. That's what is ultimately to blame for the USA losing its status as a hegemon. Socialization of capital risk and betting for 30 years straight on hopium that some repacking of html, a database and scripting is going to pull the wagon out of the dirt

>>55985207
*Greenspan Alan scam. For some reason always mix those two up

>>55976140
>the money supply growth rate is negative right now
are the stats real, though?
and is M2 the sum of all "investable" money?

>>55985207
They don't care about you or the country at all. You are a "human resource" as they say.
Don't you understand the full implications of this?

>>55976500
Why the fuck would you ever take Schiff seriously?

>>55985216
Don’t forget to call out Robert Ruben and Larry H Summers

>>55985295
I'm well aware but human resources are not infinite. And the time run out. Html database and some scripting didn't pull the wagon out and military projection power is vanishing while the demographic reality is hitting that was not able to be solved with imports. They should have followed the Trump plan of fucking over Saudis and becoming the new gas station instead of the deep state plan of trying to secure hegemony through international socialist organizations.

>>55985318
Yep, Clinton was the beginning of the end

>>55985350
The damn Clinton’s

>>55985366
After the cold war the alternative route through international organizations might have looked viable. Nobody would have thought that an old KGB midget would pull it around 10 years later

>>55985328
>human resources are not infinite
They are self-replicating and cheap to feed. In fact, attempting replication is one of the human resource's favorite activities.

>>55985058
You've never read the Bitcoin whitepaper. You've never read the Cypherpunks Manifesto. You don't understand the thing you hate so much.

>>55976473
B00kmarked

>>55985416
It takes at least 15 years to grow a human into something that can be deployed. The USA doesn't have 15 years and the import route was a crap shot.
>>55985441
I read it, writet3 papers about it, and butt corn works the same at $0.000000001 as it works at $99999999. It's not what Fink and Bukley hoped for, the next monetization and collateralization scam. They got dupped. And crypto is completely oversaturated and already ponzified

>>55985468
>the import route was a crap shot
If the USA really wanted to, it could brain-drain India and China completely.

>>55985595
Not anymore. They don't even manage to brain drain Europe. The Clinton era hubris sits deep in the agencies, too deep. Pure cancer that killed the usa

>>55977139
>portugal
>shit tiny country
>portugal
>literally spanned the globe
>being this historically illiterate
this might shock you, but borders change. did you know shitaly was once HQ to the roman empire? did you know the USA was once nothing more than a big nature reserve with little to no civilisation? mad shit. you should read a book.

>>55976420
Pull your lip over your head and swallow DESU.

>>55976140
>That tiny uptick right at the end
That would seem to indicate an incoming bullrun. You don't buy once the money supply is sky high, you buy when it's in the tank.

>>55976336
You're that butthead that was shilling to buy your bags at the high 2years ago. Kek

>>55985441
>what is rehypothecation
If you don't hold it, you don't own it.
I farted on a jew
Simple as

>>55985791
>rehypothecation
>With a ponzi that run its course
That's the stupidest plan a jew stuck in the late 90s ever came up with

>>55981955
>There is a difference.

>>55985704
You will never be a real country

>>55985914
Actually I'm a bong
Portugal was based tho

>>55985914
You live in an economic zone

>>55976417
BRO LOL we got computers and shit now. CHILL! this time it's DIFFERENT. back than people didnt have a non-government currency to rely on. LOL. when all else fails people will go to BITCOINS. rest in peace SUCKA!

>>55976140

>>55976140
While it's true that the graph shows a dip in the U.S. unemployment rate around 2008, which coincided with the global financial crisis and a significant market crash, it's important to note that the unemployment rate alone doesn't provide a complete picture of the overall state of the economy or stock market conditions. The unemployment rate is just one economic indicator among many.

Drawing conclusions about the current state of the economy or predicting stock market conditions solely based on the unemployment rate can be misleading. It's crucial to consider a wide range of economic indicators, such as GDP growth, corporate earnings, consumer sentiment, interest rates, and geopolitical factors, to gain a more comprehensive understanding of the economic and market conditions.

Additionally, the dip shown for July 2023 on the graph may not necessarily indicate that we are at the bottom of a recession. It could be a temporary fluctuation or a result of various factors specific to that time period. To assess the current state of the economy and potential market trends, it's advisable to consult a variety of reliable sources and consider a broader set of indicators and analyses.

>>55986548
You are not able to create consensus or a shared reality. Your country is dead. At best a year or two from losing its status as a hegemon and an economic powerhouse

Rest in piss.

>>55986598
I’m Argentine, don’t care

>>55986610
Then stay the fuck away from the cancer ridden Weimar USA. The fall is going to do what was described in the first post. I'm 100% certain by now

>>55986391

>>55986623
Why are you certain?

>>55986623
Actually too late I kinda lied my parents brought me to usa In 1991, we left Argentine forever and ur right life is over

>>55986635
Then you are fucked. China and the USA are going to die in tandem

>>55986610
Did you punch the CuNi

>>55986629
quite the imagination you got there bro!

>>55986682
Digital assets get rehypothecated like crazy. Metals cant be rehypothecated if they are in your possession

>>55986859
Lol. Quite the imagination. Are you trying to convince anybody here to buy your bags, baggie

>55986867
>oy vey buy my crypto bags
No thank you big long nose

>>55986881
It's a marxist that thinks he figured it out.

>>55985058
Lmao i literally mentioned how backdoors could be used in crypto in my memes and you said I have quite the imagination, im literally going to use your post in a screenshot though so thanks

>>55986925
>marxist
No way, those guys are evil, I am a metal stacker.

>>55987071
Not that kind of backdoor. A figurative backdoor

>>55983023
>mexican cartels use it dude its that cool!
The cartels exist becausee they were the only ones supplying mass volumes of physical cash to long nose banks

>>55987089
Hardware backdoors keylog crypto catch phrases to indefinitely borrow digital currency to pump NFT markets.

>>55976140

>>55987118
Somebody in your mind broke dude. Deprogram yourself

>>55976182
Can you redpill me on the 30 years war fren

>>55987131
You should read up on it. Go to the Wikipedia page sources and read the pdfs

>>55987126
loser j3w

>>55987143
I mean it. Somebody fucked your brain. Deprogram yourself. And get your information from a different source than 4channel. The moderators are sadistic freaks that scam users

>>55987159
I am the source of information

No inflation until jews pulled their federal reserve fractional reserve tricks

>>55987203
Hitler knew that the federal reserve had a 40% requirement and had less metals than paper. The exchange rates became very favorable and it allowed Germans to trade one piece of silver for four pieces that they could then remelt into reichsmarks, simply by redeeming the dollars!

>>55987191
Rip your mental health. I'm sorry for what they did to you

>>55976140
this

Silver stackers win.

>>55976140
Start doing this a lot, as often as possible because its funny

>>55987211
You realize the nazilarp was an attempt by grifter from ngo to create the reasoning for their public funding. And the silver larp was china to sell bags to the poor bastards that got fucked in the brain by the ngo scammer

This is what they took from us.

>>55987241
It's not about jews not being scammers. You cannot like jews without going full socialist. It's the norm, nobody likes jews for the past 6000 years

>>55987263
>teNyhJA
Hating jews is a positive quality, I guess we are frens now. We are frens now.

>>55976355
The plural of deer is deer, retard.

You'd know that if you weren't larping.
Never heard a shepherd talk about his "sheeps"

>>55987296
no the fuck it aint

>>55987296
No it’s “deers”
eg those deers are running fast

>>55987365
>>55987410

Sure. Whatever you say, sheeps.

>>55985769
No doubts about that anon, now is the time to take advantage of the price levels on different assets before the bulls take over. I'm doing mine with Eth and Matic, while diversifying into Gods, Ride and Ithuem.

>>55976420
XRP XLM and XDC/Flare/Algo/QNT

>>55987271
Jews named Silverstein, Silverman, or Silverwitz have a natural resistance to the olygodynamic effect.
Be careful out there anons.

>>55976426
literally the opposite
if you had said this mid 2021 you wouldve been correct
we're not in 1928 horse and cart land anymore.
shit moves quickly

>>55984216
literally the only sane response in this thread.

anons here are trying to use reason, logic and limited outsider knowledge to try and deduce how a sporadic child will act when somebody raises its voice at it.
Nobody knows any intricacies of the games being played and a majority of the post's I read has assumptions that are based in some type of fundamental belief in "the system"
Who the fuck knows what they're going to do, but it seems most likely that the playbook that has been used for centuries will continue to be used, as quoted anon has said.
Don't be a sheep, in chaos comes opportunity.
WAGMI you panicking faggots,
don't let me read this poor loserdom speak on here again.

>>55976182
Waiting for the apocalypse has been very boring. Hope kek wills it.

>>55985704
The Portuguese empire map you posted is like half of the US, with a fraction of the population and industrial might. I don't know what you're trying to prove here. Hell most of their territory is just the Amazon forest

>>55987096
Cartels exist because the US' retarded war on drugs makes it an obscenely profitable business. OG Pablo wasn't a fed or a Jew (not sure about the latter but I think not). He was just an entrepreneur who saw an opportunity. The glowniggers took over after they killed him to finance their own shady black ops shit, but they couldn't shut them all down even if they wanted to, there's too much money to be made.
>>55987118
Hardware backdoors are not magic. They're quite limited and too valuable to waste on someone's buttcoins. They won't steal your keys. At least it's less likely than someone coming to steal your physical Reichsmarks. At least I'm much more paranoid about seoneone stealing mine.

>>55976208
Seems like that prediction missed the mark, mate. We're cruising into double-digit rates now. DePIN is on the rise too. 2blox saw the potential and hopped aboard the Peaqnetwork train – a major player in the DePIN world.

>>55978395
Holy shit you’re stupid. Go touch grass.

>>55976140
Bull or bear, I find my way to earn by owning a fraction of Tesla on Eloop via Polkadot and profiting from their revenue stream, Faggot.

>>55982222
Don't fall for whale games, Jeet. DePIN will be a game changer. I'm looking at the potential of PEAQ, helium, and IoTEX.

>>55984000
Based, Anon. Smartfags are owning and monetizing their health data on wearables via Brainstem health. Don't listen to jerks.

>>55976140
>Last time this happened in US history was in 1929
it was under the gold standard and the fed couldn't do QE. completely different.

>>55982840
jfc that low IQ gotcha "argument". how many crates of federal fmj .308 can you buy with 1 satoshi?

when someone tells you 1 btc = 1 btc unironically, his IQ can't be higher than 90.

>>55976895
Well you are the dumbest black gorilla nigger on this board if you think that.

>>55988798
Non. Nobody accepts it. And those that theoretically do through third party app convert it instantly into dollars
Bitcoin is worthless

>>55988840
you can buy anything from anyone in crypto privately but that's not the point of why saying 1 bitcoin = 1 bitcoin is retarded.

>>55988950
But nobody wants it

>>55988805
Kek

>>55988999
>Buy my bags

Bump. There is still potential itt

>>55976140
> money supply rate -5%
> halving -50%
hmmm. dear diary, was op a faggot today?
(pic unrelated, is former georgian soviet olympic swimmer as an old man)

>>55976182
The solution is 1933.

>>55991164
No. The solution is not more socialism. The solution is the guillotine

>>55976140
Covid 2.0 and brrrr
I can already picture biden and that little jew yellen
>This wasn't real printing
Inflation will be small and transitory this time.

>>55991892
Fuck off

>>55990476
that dude looks like a faggot mogrel boy lover.

>>55987540
>Grammar Monster
sorry dude but you’re wrong on this one

>>55992129
meanwhile we will probably look lying dying steve jobs when were his age