/biz/ - Business & Finance

Been too long since I've seen it

*angry mumu noises*

>>55978911
Yo mumu, what's happening? Everything okay?

M-maybe it’ll be okay after all.

>permabear guru predicts since feb 2023 a huge crash
>gets it wrong months after months
>finally just says ''I'm sorry''
>becomes a bull as if he predicted all of this

I hate those people so much

>>55978931
Kek

>>55978923
what the fuck does burger king think they're olive garden or something?

>Insert 1987/2007 environment copypasta

Money supply being in the negative is pretty fitting now kek

>>55978923
No way that's real. Is that photoshopped? I'm not paying fucking $30 for mid burgers the hell...

>>55978931
>wrong about everything, time and time again
>starts feeling bullish
Kek. I don’t think this is the win you think it is, mumu.

Are options the only way to make quick money? Assuming I start with 200 bucks and make 35% on my return everytime and reinvest everything, I can make a million dollars after 28 times. So far I'm about to finish my 2nd round.

>>55978964
my account is 5 years old and my brokerage is saying my CAGR over that period is 150% because I gambled options for the first 2 years kek

>>55978964
u about to get heemed before #5

>>55978964
remember us when you're rich in the new year

>>55978964
Yes but you have to implement risk management strategies. If not, you can quadruple your money in a few months with a good consistent strategy and good method like I've done many times, only to loose it all in a few bad trades after months of huge steady gains

>>55978954
>>55978946
Bidenomics, Chud!

catalogue is experiencing a full jeet onslaught

>>55978862
I'm selling it all today, but if my post gets digits, I'll buy the ticker formed from the last four letters of my ID

>>55979033
>I'm selling it all today, but if my post gets digits, I'll buy the ticker formed from the last four letters of my ID
that's called being fucked

>EU

>>55979033
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/datable-provides-lmsg-acquisition-000000489.html

>>55978964
how high do you consider your probability for a profitable trade?

Oh, in several german states inflation accelerated again, from 6,7 to 7,1 in Brandenburg, no biggie, LMAO

>>55979046
I made 20% in 6 months, I'm not fucked at all. I had a high-conviction dream and I'm selling as a result.

>>55978986
>>55978979
>>55978992
>>55978994

Be seeing you at the top

>>55979066

Less then 5 percent. But with 4chan advise on what to invest, I'd say it turns more to 6 percent

>>55979020
crazy how /biz/ has degenerated into this state where everything outside of generals are just scams, good job tranny mods, I'm clapping for you

>>55978998
Independent, non biased, non conflict of interest, completely neutral, third party fact checkers can confirm that anonymous sources familiar with the administration have verified that 'bidenomics' has created the best economy in the history of earth.

They have also confirmed with top accredited inter galactic economists, that this is the best economy of every planet and galaxy in the known universe: past, present, or future in any timeline.
CHECKMATE, CHUD!

>>55979084
Post volume is at nearly an all-time low for the board even with all the scamming shit going on. Seems most everybody has fucked off from the markets for the most part unless they're serious about it, even crypto.

I keep buying soxl weeklies, I win some, I lose some. . The fuck do I buy to make $?

>>55979098
Tranny jannies banned everyone

>>55979098
post volume has always been 80% crypto related, shitcoin and altcoin baggies have been annihilated this past 2 years and they deserve it

>futures

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>55979106
No like the decline has been insane and the post count for the board roughly tracks the ticker for a few different memestocks. Stockposting was the majority of all posts on /biz/ for a solid chunk of 2021 and still a big percentage of it through 2022. It was only about the middle of last year it started seriously falling off and mostly being crypto related again.
>>55979107
Yeah that's true too, can't scam nearly as much in a bear or crab market as you can in a bull market with the electric internet money.

>Markets

I don't feel so good right now bros

Is it worth buying?

>>55979082

>>55979135
>>55979154
New paradigm, bullish

>>55979154
it's going to be one hell of a... ahem... fall
>carlos.jpg

>>55979067
Is the DAX a good forward-looking/leading indicator for how the S & P 500 will perform today?

>>55979078
>>55978986
If I was a betting man I would say you fuck up finishing round 2

>>55979164
>invest in chinese khan academy
no i dont think i will

>>55979186
What should I get instead? Preferably something with long term fundamentals and some nice technical

Im requesting additional money

>>55979154
IT PROLLY WON'T CRASH FOR A FEW MORE YEARS. THIS IS THE ROARING TWENTIES AGAIN CHUD!

IM GONNA KEEP PLAYING HOT POTATO AND MUSICAL CHAIRS, I CAN GET OUT IN TIME BEFORE IT FINALLY GOES.

NVOODIA $900 EOY! SLURP THE SQUIZZLE!

>>55979176
Not really. Sometimes it actually happens, that both move further together, sometimes it doesn't move with US later in the session is remains still (despite US pumping or dumping).
This is why it is hard to trade this fucker. It is less predictable than US.

Anyways, german CPI later:

Du (übermächtig, überflüssig)
Ich (Übermenschen, überdrüssig)
Wir (wer hoch steigt, der wird tief fallen)
Ihr (Deutschland, Deutschland über allen)
dein Herz in Flammen
Will dich lieben und verdammen
(Deutschland) mein Atem kalt
So jung und doch so alt
deine Liebe
Ist Fluch und Segen
(Deutschland) meine Liebe
Kann ich dir nicht geben
(Deutschland)

>>55979154
Reverse repo is still up around 1.7 trillion, there's a ton of money being siphoned out of the m2 supply. When it starts seriously dropping and eventually flatlines we'll be in deflation. So far it's already come down about a trillion from its peak.

Any Medical equipment chad expert here? Which stock is better Thermofischer or Medtronic?

There will be a new chemical sector supercycle when the war of Ukraine ends. The stocks that are the cheapest for this are BASF, Covestro and 3M

trying a little pump, we''ll if the sellers are coming

>>55979311
So they will stay cheap til next August, September? I guess I'll keep that in mind, thanks

>>55979311
Maybe the war expands and they go back to making bombs and poison gas.

>>55979311
YOU FORGOT BAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>55979311
What’s the logic here?

>>55979351
>
LMAO even

It is
>it must go up

>>55979389
There are massive stockpiles from 2022 for a bunch of sectors like electronics, packaging inks, coatings and automotive suppliers due shortages during COVID. 2023 has been an awful year for most companies in those sectors and you should expect a massive rebound once supply lines look more stable and stockpiles start to get eaten up. I can tell you from first hand experience that Poojeets are selling some products in which the cost is 90% a chemical product with a mark up of 6 rupees of the material cost due how fucking slow the market is. A wave of acquisitions and consolidations is going on in those sectors and you should also expect margins to grow in the long run.

>>55979311
war in ukraine is a forever war, unless trump gets back into office which we know that isn't happening

>>55979434
>war in ukraine is a forever war
>Assuming a decadent shithole like Russia can mantain an attrition war and sanctions forever before they hanged Putin and put a western puppet in power
How cute. Prigozhin could have taken power if he wasn't a bitch. Expect more internal conflicts in the future while the Russian economy starts to weaken at an accelerated pace once stockpiles end and they have to start production facilities.
Gazprom just posted some godawful results and Russia stockpile of foreign reserves is atrocious as it holds a bunch of Rupees which they can't even use as Pajeet industry is dog shit and doesn't supply what Russia needs.
I expect a slow decline of the Russian economy until hyperinflation quicks in which is what happened to Venezuela. Russia is simply more resilient and it would just take more time

>>55979434
Depends on a lot of things how it all turns out, but since one side is using horses and the other has guided artillery I'd imagine it won't last forever.

>>55979409
Packaging is a huge business segment for the chemical industry and you just have to look at the performance of companies like Amcor or Pajeet producers like SRF to see how badly they are doing in 2023. Packaging should bounce back by 2024 just due the cannibalization of stockpiles

>>55979456
I disagree but I can’t be bothered to write down why
Also I didn’t read the entire thing so if you don’t disagree with me sorry

>>55979456
no, you see, only the us dollar can hyperinflate and collapse it said so on an rt screenshot on /pol/, economics don't apply to the based saviors of the white race brics countries because of jews *refuses to elaborate further* *posts a social media screenshot of something le bad in america*

>>55979473
kek

>>55979479
You forgot some rant about the national debt to gdp ratio completely ignoring that 63% of all global trade is conducted in dollars and global gdp is 100 trillion and we service nearly two-thirds of that with half the money it would require, even less when you subtract what's used domestically. Followed up by telling you to buy precious metals immediately on a credit card no matter the interest rate before the whole world economy collapses.

ARE OILBARONS REALLY BACK!?

And how could I forget the bitching about the fed and j-pow doing their jobs instead of just letting shit go bananas with no oversight, or blackpill demoralization webm posting, or taking some two minute clip of some pavement apes in a big shitty chimping out and generalizing the entire country as that.

>>55978964
>make 35% on my return everytime

>>55979502
*becomes angry and starts posting so1jaks and calling everyone an fbi shill*
*pretends to be a european despite clearly being south american*
*repeatedly calls you a mutt until bump limit while tears roll down his cheeks onto his sole photograph of his black brazilian father he last saw in 2003*
r-russia stronk!

Buy $llap

This place really does get worse by the day. Fuck jannies and fuck brainwashed reddit trannies

>>55979532
Then the israel posting starts about how the US is the most awful place on earth for giving them aid and doing business with them, before you call them out on doing the same shit and it becomes "NOOO DON'T LOOK AT OUR OWN CONNECTIONS WITH ISRAEL AND THE JEWS, WE'RE THE BASED ANTI SEMITES! IGNORE WHO THE FOUNDERS OF MARXISM WERE AND THEIR GENEOLOGY NOOOOOOO!"

>>55976151
>>55976293
>>55976386
>>55976437
>>55976601
>>55976778
>>55976859
>>55977406
Nice to see some good glamour shots of John Rocker’s wife. Too bad about the herpes though. She really deserves better.

>>55979551
imagine when AI can make videos and even audio

Orsted bros...

I love this analystbullshit. On TradeRepublic, a german neobroker there you can see what analysts think is the right price. But you can't see who these analysts are..

Orsted: 29 Analysts
Highest 130,82 Euros
Lowest 63,60 Euros
Mean 96,62 Euros

Orsted right now: 58,2

>reside in the third world where the highest concentrations of transsexuals and goat fuckers live
>extrapolate your daily lives experience onto the internet and assume every westerner lives in a sex tourism dungeon like he does

>>55979104
Have you considered selling instead of buying?

So lots of people say EV/EBITDA is the bests measure of value, but I can't understand why you would ignore the cost of depreciation and amortization. Those are real expenses. If I want to buy a business why would I ignore those.

How is EBITDA better than EBIT?

>>55979581
People that don't work in manufacturing unironically believe that depreciation is just an accounting trick to pay fewer taxes and not a real expense. This is what every business school teaches.

>>55979562
>But you can't see who these analysts are
how european

>>55979562
>Renewable meme
Not even with your mom's savings.

>>55979581
>EBITDA
This the finance equivalent of LGBTQ? lol
Anyway, analysts are fags lol

>>55979581
I recall reading somewhere that it's done so that industrials with lots of machinery and equipment can be more fairly compared to soft companies with no machinery. If you're looking at only industrials it seems more logical to include depreciation and amortization in your comparison

>>55979629
>industrials with lots of machinery and equipment can be more fairly compared to soft companies with no machinery
But they shouldn't. Industrials should always have lower valuation as CAPEX is incredibly costly and that expense should be taken into account. Software companies are just better businesses overall and manufacturing companies only excel in very concentrated sectors like semiconductors in which TSMC basically has no competition because CAPEX keeps competition away

buy the orsted dip if you're so tough

>>55979629
Still doesn't make sense though. Industrials SHOULD be penalized for their high depreciation costs. So if comparing cross industry they would require a premium relative to an industry that has little depreciation.

>>55978904
GBTR

>>55979609
Yeah, I never trust these analysts there. The price is ALWAYS lower than what these analysts think.

>slurping MMM
>slurping AVGO

VFS -- fuck, marry, or kill?

Float is small and I still think there's some juice left to squeeze

>>55979721
It's getting pumped as collateral for some bullshit, play straddles. Calls on the way up puts on the way down.

>>55979732
Puts are expensive as shit. I sold Oct 45 for $27.

>>55979750
Naked or no?

>>55979558
Total OF Roastie Death when?

>>55979755
Naked yeah. Puts at least have limited losses and I can sell calls, and plus dumps always play out over long periods, bounce back, etc.

I've sold naked calls and lost my liver before.

>>55979785
If it pulls an HKD and gigapumps into a gigadump you might lose your liver again. Just be careful, it's acting weird just like that one did.

>>55979794
Thanks. I won't wait until expiry. I'll cash out before then.

>>55979154
Meh, M3 is growing... call me when "deflation" happens anywhere on this planet and prices actually start dropping. So far, I have yet to notice anything. Gas is more expensive than ever and so is food and rent (not that I rent but rentoids gotta be feeling the pressure).
Until I see something in the real world and not just bs statistics graphs that are subject to a great deal of manipulation, I don't really care.
As we have established before, upper middle class and above (i.e. the ones that matter for the market) are breezing through this economic situation. It's only the lower classes that are getting shafted. In other words, yet another FUD

LMAO ADP

>>55978904
Bitches don't know bout muh golf rumours. (or muh Cloud District)

Cowabunga Motherfucker

>>55979808
prices are currently dropping in China, a country that conducts around 20% of global trade
>inb4 "that doesn't matter" idiots and Zeihan retards shit up the thread

>>55979808
People are retarded, they see the rate of inflation decreasing and assume it means deflation, but in reality the prices of shit is still going up just not as quickly. That's why most of the country seems ok with it.

Bought my first derivative in 3 months cus I'm financially bored, what am I in for?

index calls, naturally

>>55979067
Unironically priced in. They will just say "economic indicators are showing a contraction in the EU area so we don't really have to raise rates, inflation will go away by itself"... as if those graphs show anything at all. The various index graphs tend to fluctuate between 45 and 55, that's just how it is. What we know is that inflation keeps increasing and there seems to be no end to it.
But the central banks fugged themselves by introducing ZIRP when Covid came. Now everyone got used to free money... which they cannot now pay back. Too high rates and the lower classes collapse. So they will drag out inflation for as long as possible, prices will keep increasing, and big stocks will largely benefit. And of course, they will be able to stave off the state debt.
The EU is fugged if you are part of those lower classes

>>55979837
No one thinks this, retard

>>55979839
A bad time if you can't sit around and watch the market all day while it crabs up and down.

>>55979862
there have been threads on /biz/ asking when prices will drop now inflation is falling. uk news regularly feels the need to explain it when talking about inflation.

>>55978948
he's right though

>>55979875
Bought OMX calls with expiry on Friday, no need to watch the crab cus we moooonin today after an initial dip.

STOP MOVING THE LINE IN THAT DIRECTION *shits self*

>>55979891
FR? Jesus Christ how are people so fucking stupid

>>55979898
kek, I'm shortign Sweden.

>>55979891
FR? Jesus Christ how are people so fucking stupid

>>55979862
99% of normalfags think this. Touch grass NEET

>>55979898
>swedish index calls
Boy that's a weird one, good luck tho.

>>55979917
I guess I just keep more intelligent company than you.

>>55979935
You hang out here, that means you definitely don't.

im watchingn today. might add if doesnt go down too much.

might tighten stops dunno

>>55979904
its been 15 years since 08 and the subsequent eurozone crisis and politicians/talking heads etc still cannot understand the difference between a deficit and overall debt and how one affects the other. the average person is generally clueless on basic economic principles.

>>55979940
First time posting here in about two years but okay

Btw last time I posted here I shorted AMC @20 and it went to $60, causing me to blow out my margin and lose 100k. Maybe you remember me.

I'm always right, just never at the right time.

>>55979962
But you lost the money, so you were wrong as you weren't able to get out without losses.

>>55979962
Jesus Christ dude, why didn't you hedge? I cleared 12k off calls on that shit that I bought for 140$ and at their peak they were worth double that, then I made another 16k on puts on the way down because I straddled. And I am a broke dipshit.

>>55979952
They simply don't teach economics in school and I think that's by design. We didn't have one economics class in highschool. I didn't take an economics class until college which seems insane. It's why teenagers are retarded and always are in favor of government spending.

Friendly reminder to buy JNUG

>>55979918
>>55979905

Ty sirs. Long term I'd short as well but I need dopamine now

>>55979998
>that's by design
If every citizen was learned in economics, then the ruling caste would've been hanged and the central banking system dismantled decades ago.

>>55980008
Your welcome Sir. But do not redeem too late. That would be like a giftcard to me.

>>55979998
We had one that was a mandatory class but it went over the hard basics like how to make a budget and the difference between principal and interest. Probably did help a lot of people not financially heem themselves the dumb way like so many do but it was a very basic class and limited in scope. Most people are in fact retarded when it comes to anything involving finances, let alone the economy or stocks or anything beyond that. Try explaining the simpler derivatives like a basic put or call option to a random person off the street, they'll look at you like you're speaking another language.
>>55980012
There's definitely not enough done to educate people on how to not be retards with money but if we're being honest most people just don't give a shit. They get heemed on a credit card they blew up, they stop caring about anything but cash moving forward, and they live in a cycle of poverty because they can never use credit as leverage for major purchases like a home or a car. Before you know it you're living in a trailer in your 50's and your only friends are the roaches and the neighbor kid that likes to bum weed off you in exchange for a conversation. See shit like that all the damn time.

>>55978998
The future is going to really suck

>germany CPI backs up to 6.1%
lmao krauts in recession and inflation and the same time. How can they cope?

>>55979997
lmao and he claims he is around smarter people too

have you guys checked the just released numbers? dxy is dying again
>Corporate profit QoQ 1.9% exp -5.9%
Capitalism is a wonderful thing

>buy shares
>price goes down
>buy some more shares to average down
>price goes down even more
>stop buying shares
>price levels out
>price continues to crab
>buy more shares
>price goes down
every goddamn time

>>55980039
>>55980039
Picrel: That's why you also have to make a law which doesn't allow rents to go up. Burgers incapable it seems.

>>55979898
Good choice, son. It is a retarded country that has decided to put their wealth into real estate and housing, meaning they can't really raise rates too much, meaning their inflation will be persistently higher than average in the EU (which is true since there is a 9% core inflation after a year of "fighting the inflation" lmao).
The US index bounced in the Keltner channel and is now firmly above the EMA20. It will probably move even higher towards the week's end... with the EU of course obediently following. So yeah, your calls should print some nice money in my opinion

>>55980044
There's no way I would ever short something without a protective call.

>>55980066
Let me guess:
BASF?

BOIL hittin' the $58s. Haven't seen any reports on the hurricane impact on it yet.

>>55980076
All rent controls do is kill liquidity, they don't change the reality of the market.

>>55980066
this is why you wait at least for rsi to be low, and then take partial profit regularly

>>55980100
What liquidity? It simply doesn't allow the tenant to increase rent.

>>55980095
BMW, BAYER, BASF. Something with a B like BITCH.

>>55980098
Now is a good time to buy BOIL

>>55980040
it's actually not that bad. the cost of living is still quite low. I buy groceries from Aldi once a week. mostly for no more than 50 €

dollar and yields dumping and futures are flaccid. They are going to get heemed so fucking hard at the open

>>55979997
>Why weren't you not retarded
Yes yes hindsight I know

>>55980158
Also with B
>>55980129

Don't want to alarm anyone but....

>>55980164
Dollar down is bullish no?

>>55980193
UNIRONICALLY OVER

>>55980193

>>55980129
Are you retarded or only pretending?

>>55980193
its over

>>55980193
>The great Tony bull betrayal
Well, mumus are sure in for it now

>>55980198

so futures should be up 50 handles, but they're not

>>55980193
>>55980211
may I remind you that Tony has been a bear all of 2020 he's a brainlet

>>55980206
Is that an argument, an explanation or an admit to being incapable?

lol im not buying stocks at these prices just to get dumped on 2 months later

>>55980232
If the market value is at X and you set the limit to X` < X people just won't sell, you won't move the price down.
The effect is that people won't be able to rent at *any* price. For a recent example of how this plays out look at Southern California.

>>55980225
Nah, we be buying every dip. Dude, he's an analyst on TV, what do you expect?

>>55980212
Gunna be honest I don't fully understand yields and dxy impact on the market. Is it always clear cut 1 to 1 or is today a blue moon occurence?

>>55980232
>cap rent
>increase tax
>owner sells it off due to no longer being worth it
>still end up homeless

>>55979994
>>55979997
My thesis was right. I knew that fat sack of shit would get diluted and explode. It got diluted like fuck and even still went up 50% the next day. It went above GME's market cap at its absolute peak IIRC. $60 was my max pain and I figured there was no way it would hit that. It hit $60 exactly and my bank closed my positions and kicked me to the curb.

I haven't sold naked calls since then.

predict market opening level

>>55980193
Imagine if you actually listened to this retard. He was the one who said but every dip and now he's getting cold feet.

>>55980158
It's a good time to buy *some* BOIL but it can go lower, always keep plenty of capital reserves for averaging down and never forget that you're trading a 2x of THA WIDOWMAKER.

>>55980259
>He was the one who said but every dip
That was a long time ago and you probably would have done very well. (I don't know exactly when that was, but it's been posted for a while)

>>55980247

Silver has been outperforming gold for some time now. Gold season is upon us anons. Load up on gold miners.

>>55980259
It's not clear that this is really a dip. It looks like a bull trap to me unless the fed just says "it's all fucked anyway" and pivots.

>>55980241
>>55980241
The question was about raising rent. Not about selling.

>>55980248
Nevermind, owner is fucked too


>>55980252
Yes, you were ultimately right, but you weren't able to persist. So you lost what you bet, and were wrong in your bet.

>>55980308
"selling time with thing" vs "renting thing" is the same thing.

>>55980248
Or even worse
>local landlord sells apartment building
>Foreign chinks buy it instead
>completely neglect building

>>55980252
got screens?

>>55980316
I lived in one of these. The fucking elevators never worked, I felt bad for everyone on floor 20.

>>55980314
If you cap rent, nobody can raise it. I don't understand your point.

>>55980193
>slight defensive positioning
It's over

>>55980343
You don't seem to understand very much at all. I'd recommend taking a high school economics class and coming back next year.

>>55980252
Going naked is generally just a license to lose your lunch, sorry you got your teeth kicked out your asshole to learn the lesson.

>>55980297
GSR is around 78 now, well above historic means.
It got as low as 30 in 2011, and even 17 in 1980.
That said I have some gold miners but I'm more heavy into silver.
Either one is good, and going to be great when the US sovereign debt crisis kicks in.

it's joeover, joehonest this time

>>55980317
Is there a biz archive? If you search AMC around the time it first peaked 1.5 years ago, you should find it if you look at pics only. I don't save loss pics forever

>>55980297
>Gold
piss of shit hasnt put a single bullish close above 2000, is it going above 2000 this year?

>>55980379
Warosu has one yes.

>>55980367
Still not convinced. And let your rents explode.

Latte: Made
Joint: Rolled
Asshole: Clenched
Bears: Beclowned

I wasn't paying attention, how is the gdp looking at first glance?

Penny stocks or GTFO

>>55980382
If you're lucky it'll go up enough to keep up with inflation while it's happening, tends to lag a bit. Mining companies aren't terrible if you research the fuck out of them, do not be a retard and go buy shares of whatever the new Bayhorse Silver is and lose your whole ass.

>>55980385
Keep dumping your money into BAESF and waiting for Hitler to rescue you from your own ignorance.

Damn, corporate profits in the US really are insane. It's literally over for bobos. The sentiment is leaning more and more towards pause in hikes (despite expected +0.8% inflationary rate, gj Powell) and corporate profits are starting to grow again from already insane levels

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>no bang bang bang anon

>>55980403
Is that adjusted for inflation or fake and mega gay?

>>55980403
>un-stopped Inflation growth
>Corporate profits rise

is SOXL dumping today?

Hello everyone, remember to keep buying their bags so they can dump it on you. They're the same ones who keeps saying that NVDA will be at $800/share btw.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/quote/RBGP.L/

>The AMERICAN is buying

>>55980402
I'm shorting DAX, and Sweden. You are talking to the wrong person.

Is SOXL ever going to be $30 agian?

I reckon it's time to do the rotational thing, where you sell your NVDA and move into defensive shit ahead of the recession, like healthcare.

>>55980441
Yes, but you're going to have to wait a few months

>>55980423
fake & gay, here is inflation-adjusted
>>55980403
glow harder

>>55980441
The markets over semi conductors, it's all about barely conductors now

>>55980418
he's in the hospital. got in a car accident and lost his leg.

>>55979998
I took a day "investing" course in college which was run by a boomer who said to just buy the SPY index because line always go up

>>55980423
>>55980453
didn't extend chart out to most recent month of data
still fake and gai tho

>day 2 of no BANG BANG BANG
I’m starting to get worried guys… the crash is coming, isn’t it?

BANG BANG BANG...

>>55980462
wtf
>>55980468
apparently he bang bang bang'ed into a car

IT'S BARQS YOU ILLITERATE MONKEYS

Sold my UNG calls for a tidy ~24% profit

>>55980453
Based, thanks. Still not great but not the end of the world just yet. I'd wager corporations are raising prices ahead of inflation and more than inflation to recoup some of their costs from last year picking up all the slack covid caused. If it starts coming down by the end of the year it'll be fine, if it keeps climbing further then a bunch of companies are being assholes for little reason.

Why the FUCK are we red if the data was good???

>>55980403
If according to the extra jobs that were added to the jobs report yesterday are correct, then we are in an even more fucked position because wealth is now consolidating towards higher-income classes like upper-middle class then deflating

Below that, we will see people still suffering from an insane inflation rate. Even when prices start to shift downward, they are all insolvent.

Expect people to be begging for another stimulus in the near future.

>>55980506
And just after I couldn't hold on to SQQQ any longer. Fuck me that was such a stupid fucking move.

dumping hard

>>55980506
because yesterdays bad news made it green.

>>55980506
Let's circle back to this "good data" you keep going on about

remember the $400 overleveraged semiconductor chart?
Pepperidge Farm remembers

>>55980516
I slurped BIGLY when it dropped below 18 last night

>>55980506
The market heard everyone talking shit a few years ago about how easy it was to make money by inversing cramer, so now the market has to inverse reality to keep the line going up. Did you think clownworld was over or something?

>>55980506
No money in people's pockets. Currently the market is just stagnating until something changes.

banks are dumping. Check KRE

>>55980527
Splits are fun.

>>55980531
I heard that blacks are starting to support Trump now that he's being portrayed as a Thug. This is change.

>>55980492
>Sloppy Photoshop
Sad really.

Double top where the second top is another smaller double top.

Bobros, I pray for your success. Make me proud.

>not buying the dips in this crab market

Ngmi

For over a thousand years Roman conquerors returning from the wars enjoyed the honor of triumph, a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeters, musicians and strange animals from conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conqueror rode in a triumphal chariot, the dazed prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes his children robed in white stood with him in the chariot or rode the trace horses. A slave, who bore a striking resemblance to late-2010s adult actress Piper Perri stood behind the conqueror holding a golden crown, and whispering in his ear a warning: “You DID buy puts, didn’t you anon?”
– General George S. Patton, Jr.

we are here for the monay

>>55980528
Good fucking luck.

i think im legit gonna sell the uvxy ive been hodling since feb this week. probably a top signal or something. knew the bank crisis was coming but thought it would be bigger and could have cashed out 2x in march but held now to -60%. the market really will just go sideways with no panic. honestly believe they have some kind of AI model running the markets preventing volatility events now. feeling pretty shitty.

i took a shitload of niacin and my skin is on fire
time for some trading

>>55980530
I've made a lot rolling down ATM wfc puts based on inverting his advice and it doesn't look like that's stopping.

Still no $hood talk in here eh boys

3rd largest bitcoin wallet says a lot to me.

>>55980577
Nice.

>>55980591
Holding UVXY shares is dumb, options are better, and it's manipulated to fuck and back because VIX is. You'd have cleared a tidy 12.5% if you'd sold it and just bought more gamestop back when it was in the 16's, it still operates within a cycle and you can just straddle it on basic options or swing it manually to turn a profit. If you're of the mind it might still moon someday just hold a few if you do swing, but most of those dudes ain't even holding that in a brokerage anymore.

>>55980591
Why are you not selling options on UVXY weekly through this whole process ? What the hell man.

>>55980590
I hope it works out. Waiting for September/October. If nothing comes of it by then I’m dropping it.

>>55980604
Yep, I saw that last night in an article about them cutting ties with Jump.

>>55980612
>>55980591
That too. Could've been writing puts or calls in schizo ranges that will more than likely not hit and made money off the permadoomers trying to time the market.

>>55980613
A month is a long time to hold that. A week is a long time even.

>>55980604
QRD?

>>55980591
>GME
>UVXY 89% of portfolio

absolutely degen

mfw there are Anons itt who hold no BOIL

>>55980625
I know. I’m just hoping it pays off taking on the extra risk of holding onto it.

>>55980620
I personally would exchange this for sqqq imo, write weeklies and slurp. Not that I am giving you advice. Objective reality is coming (some day).

WHERE is the DUMP I was promised!!!!

See ya, Bobo!

>>55980644
Patience. It's coming soon.

>>55980629
Might as well have literally just thrown it all in funkopopstop and swung.
>>55980640
I'd rather just keep swinging memes and straddling indexes. It's boring but it works.

>>55980644
These retards don't know. We're crab market hours. Buy my bags goy

Gamma anon I think we were wrong. It's getting close to 452.

I love you guys no homo.

>>55980640
>write weeklies and slurp.
I was doing that and got absolutely fucked 0/10 would not recommend.

>>55980644
Working on my machine

>>55980631
commodity markets are just gambling against people with an insider knowledge edge.

BUY THE INFLATION
BUY THE WORSE GDP
BUY THE WORE ADP
BUY THE TRAP

t. not shorting US but EU

anyone have double top for major indexes before the next big collapse?

Ooops, pending home sales are accelerating. Might need a few more hikes to slow those down.

>>55980678
It's unironically higher inflation expectation that causes this.
>I have to buy now or prices will increase further
>despite rates for mortgages also at 7%
>LMAO

Intel is one of my more profitable holds to date in 2023. The market cap is smaller then AMD. The stock is clearly undervalued.

SOXL is such a piece of shit lately

>>55980686
Imagine buying a house at 7% interest. That's fucking insane.

>>55980661
>jive

>>55980704
>That's fucking insane.
Someone is using hosing as a utility now.

>>55980693
As a DCA it's a solid choice but it's gonna be a while before it moves up again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMyCa35_mOg

>>55980704
And only 1% down is needed! What a deal!

>>55980711
it's jibe not jive

>>55980728
Man the people taking those deals are going to get fucked so hard.

>>55980704
What if inflation went to 10%?
Still insane?

>>55980591
>hiding your average cost of GME
You massive little bitch.

>>55980728
Are you a minority? Would you like to buy a house? Zero down, no payments for a year! Don't you mind that adjustable rate, you bought a fuckin' house!

Shit's gross.

>>55980744
If we go much over 10% all of this becomes academic anyway and your best investment choice is ammo and canned food.

lets see how long AAPL, GOOGL, and NVDA can single handedly hold up the SPY

>>55980744
Renting exists anon. No way I'm getting a ((loan)) at 7%

>>55980704
I bought my house at 5.5% back in 2009. Refi'ed several years ago at 2.85%. 7% isn't great but it's not like interest rates are at 80s levels or something. The bigger issue is the fucking inflated prices and the lack of inventory, on top of the fact that small starter homes are not being built these days. People having to offer $50k, $100k+ over the asking price just to get their foot in the door, waiving inspection periods, paying $500k for a house that shouldn't cost more than about $200k. Shit's fucked. It's not as fucked as it was a couple of years ago but it's still fucked.

>DXY down a whole percent since 2 days ago
It's really the end for the dolla

What happened TTOOcucks? I hope none of you fell for the pump and dump

>>55980739
I don't see any sails!

>>55980754
>>55980744
The real nightmare is is inflation hit 10% and interest hit 12% but then tips real yield are still lower than 3% lmao

>>55980754
Rates would need to be a hell of a lot higher than 10% to be at ammo and canned food levels of unrest and shit breaking. You underestimate the efficiency of the machine that crushes poors into liquidity before they can do anything about it.

>>55980761
If interest rates return to where the were in the 80s the federal government will immediately default. So that's not happening (or its meaningless if it does.)

Green day
>”Bad data is good!”
Red day
>”Bad data is bad!”

>>55980765
I made ok money buying dips. If you want some volatility look at HE

>>55980772
It's not the people you have to worry about (initially anyway.) You're right that doesn't happen until much higher.

>>55980777
No they wouldn’t, they would just find a way to issue more bonds

>>55980791
That's a de facto default.

>>55980591
And this is why you should never enter a position without setting a stop loss.

>>55980754
Perhaps. I think it's unlikely, but the point is that 7% only seems insanely high because we've been preconditioned to trust the Fed and their 2% goal. We've been trained to think yields should be negative. Meanwhile, massive government deficits continue.

>>55980771
That would be pretty rough. When people look at real yield, I think most miss the fact that you have to pay taxes on both the real and nominal parts of that yield. Post-tax, you need a high real yield during high inflation just to break even in real terms.
Obviously tax-sheltered accounts don't suffer this problem.

>>55980800
Then we’ve been defaulting for quite awhile now

>>55980765
I feel like the only people talking about TTOO are the people talking about how it's a biomeme poojeet scam. I don't think anyone here actually got involved with it.
>>55980777
I don't think it's happening either. You just have to put things into perspective. Regardless if I didn't already own a home, I wouldn't buy a house right now. Something's got to give eventually. Maybe.

>>55980748
it's 6% of his portfolio.

UVXY is much worse.

>>55980813
>Something's got to give eventually. Maybe.
Not necessarily. Look at South Africa. Real estate there keeps going up in nominal (and often even real) currency despite what is essentially a failed state running things and horribly employment. Things could just continue to deteriorate until you're dead and the "law" and "market" simply became irrelevant.

>>55980829
Depending on the average cost it could have once been something absurd like 50%

>>55980812
We're issuing them to cover budget deficits still, not to directly cover interest on the older bonds.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>55980812
Technically speaking yes, realistically speaking so long as those bond interest payments keep getting made and the budget keeps getting raised no. However that would probably preclude rates getting anywhere near when Volcker raped everyone to death because the payments would start to get retarded in a hurry and holding US treasury bonds would functionally be shorting the USD for the load it'd put on payments.

Bobo... let's talk about this...

>>55980831
During inflation and economic distress, sometimes it makes sense to buy an overpriced asset to frontrun the next currency devaluation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVurA44hwiw

STOP THE COUNT

Bobo wait... we can come to a compromise

HOOKED

>>55980839
That makes sense. It’s quite the game of terminology that they play isn’t it?

L-listen Bobo… w-we can still work this out~

I'll do two shifts I can still

HOW DO YOU TRADE THIS? DO I ZOOM OUT OR WHAT

BOBO PUT THE GUN DOWN

never listening to this board again, just lost everything
not playing shitty NASDAQ anymore OTC pink sheets all the way

what is the reason for the sharp drop in revenue at intel this year ?

Double top within a head and shoulders within another double top. See you baggies at SPY 185.

What the fuck just happened?

WTF DO YOU MEAN NVIDIA IS STILL UP 300 DOLLARS

bullas bought the top again?

>>55980883
DONE BEEN TOLD YO PUNK ASSES WHAT WAS COMING, FACE THE FUCKIN' WALL

>>55980591
Good. Kill all bearfags

>>55980888
Probably all the dumb women they hired to run things if I were to guess.

>>55980888
Total rout in server CPUs
They're a laptop company now

Hit my stop loss on my SQQQ and the price immediately starts going back up. Fuck this absolutely rigged fake and gay market. Jesus fucking Christ.

WTFWT

>>55980907
>he doesn't know MM's can see stop losses
Better luck next time

>TA doesn't wor-

Guys what the fuck just happened

Send it to 4450

>all my shorts get destroyed yesterday
>the moment i go long everything just flashdumps
Nah fuck this market man

Kill bobos. Behead bobos. Roundhouse kick a bobo into the concrete. Slam dunk a bobo baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy bears. Defecate in a bobos food. Launch bobos into the sun. Stir fry bobos in a wok. Toss bobos into active volcanoes. Urinate into a bobos gas tank. Judo throw bobos into a wood chipper. Twist bobos heads off. Report bobos to the IRS. Karate chop bobos in half. Curb stomp pregnant black bobos. Trap bobos in quicksand. Crush bobos in the trash compactor. Liquefy bobos in a vat of acid. Eat bobos. Dissect bobos. Exterminate bobos in the gas chamber. Stomp bobo skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate bobos in the oven. Lobotomize bobos. Mandatory abortions for bobos. Grind bobo fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown bobos in fried chicken grease. Vaporize bobos with a ray gun. Kick old bobos down the stairs. Feed bobos to alligators. Slice bobos with a katana.

NEW

>>55980930
>>55980930

>>55980920
>random line tolded me

>>55980831
If we're comparing ourselves to SA now then your outlook really is dire. But I don't think we'll ever be fucked to those levels.

>>55980653
we were right.

>>55980888
They really dropped the ball by sending their foundries overseas and completely ignoring GPUs

Seriously why the FUCK did they just ignore the growing GPU market?

>>55980944
California and South Texas are heading towards where West South Africa is. It's the target they have for the US. that seems extremely clear to me baring some very violent unlikely event.

>>55980651
Please my brother, sell options on these shares. Thats the only reason to hold a passive etf

>>55980657
You cannot do it arbitrarily, its a metric that is bought and sold as an asset. Writing derivatives upon it is almost its only use.

Good time to buy back into BOIL?

>>55981049
This morning when it was down in the $58s.

>>55979311
bought $5k of 3M, 50 shares, in IRA account.. thanks