/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55978644
Yes 2 more weeks, it's happening.

>>55978644
We can only hope

Deflation as in deflation of overleveraged positions secured with ponzi schemed assets like real estate and assumed future productivity and reproduction rate of spics and niggers is on the table. Real deflation, like in production capacity getting closed down because of lack of demand, doubtful
Though durable goods orders got me spooked real good

>>55978644
Yes and the EU will take its place as the world's sole superpower.
Unlike the US the EU is ethnically cohesive and is far less overleveraged than the US

>>55978644
Implode no
Slow death yes

>>55978849
that's some high test copium

>>55978937
explain why I'm wrong then

>>55978644
china is genuinely winning in economics
america is just running out of money, if they don't do something in 20 years we will be left behind, anyway that's enough time to squeeze every last penny out of x.com and get the hell out of here

>>55978849
>europe
>ethnically cohesive
>economically performing well at all

>>55978849
The EU ain’t got no resources or commodities. The US is larger than all of Europe and the soil is more fertile, we should’ve isolated ourselves from the outside world 40 years ago, but greedy faggots ruined this place.

Yes and no.

It will be a steady collapse into an unmistakably corrupt and dysgenic shithole. The kind you may find in south america.
It won't be an apocalypse like in da moooovies.

>>55979371
Don't be so certain, if things go really south, pun intended, it's going to be a civil war

>>55978644
Yes actually, USD is why every other dollar is shit.

>>55978773
>future productivity and reproduction rate of spics and niggers is on the table.
Back to /pol/ faggot.
Niggers are well over 1.4 BILLION in population and I see more niggers with houses than whites.
Niggers is unironically bullish.

>>55978644
No, because even if the young men have no stake in society and quit working, the old men will end retirement to start working to keep their standard of living. It's already started. None of our parents will remain retired after Biden is re-elected and it will be even harder to find jobs as a result.

>>55978644
No, things aren't even close to as bad now as they were in the 70s by any metric. If the US didn't collapse in the 70s it's sure as shit not going to collapse now. I've also been hearing about how the US is "totally about to collapse" for my entire fucking life, it's even more hysterical than the "two more weeks until China's collapse" people.

>>55979816
Demographics, this country was still 93% in 1970.

>>55979451
>We emit more public debt on the base that an ad hoc model conceptualized by a drooling marxist tells is that nigger is going to be productive sometimes in the future
Socialism is going to kill the USA and make it go into a deflationary deathspiral like China. Congrats you starve

>>55979816
Demographics, USA was 88% white in 1970.

>>55978644
In your dreams chink

To all you haters


You will never be American.

>>55978644
No, but if you’re a poorfag rentoid, life is about to get even shittier

>>55978644
The EU and China will collapse long before the US.

>>55980073
Yeah and it had dramatically higher crime rates across the board, urbanization totally collapsed not just in a few select cities but across the entire country, inflation was higher than even the worst covid stuff persistently throughout the decades, the government literally had to send tanks on the streets to quell unrest, there were active Black Panther movements that would stand outside of voting stations with fucking submachine guns to force people to vote in certain ways, domestic terrorism was rampant, pollution was insanely high, hardcore drug use was the highest it's ever been, I could go on and on and on. Muh 88% white mattered fuckall, the 70s were a hellscape and easily the worst decade America's seen since the 1930s, arguably worse in many ways. If America didn't collapse then, it's not going to collapse now.

>>55979365
lol lmao

>>55979816
>I've also been hearing about how the US is "totally about to collapse" for my entire fucking life
You're only 15

>>55980789
I fucking wish, I'm in my late 30s. I heard that shit during the fucking 90s, a time that everyone now seems to agree was a golden age. Outside of death and taxes, the only other inevitability in life seems to be that people think America's about to collapse.

>>55978644
It took Rome 1000 years to fully collapse.

>>55980733
>citation needed
So many people are dying of overdoses that it’s impacting life expectancy and you honestly think I believe that?

>>55980808
America is going to collapse in a deflationary deathspiral thanks to niggers, spics, jews and their retarded socialist policies about lines go up pontification of the economy

>>55980808
You'll always be 15 in your heart

>>55979371
This is the only right answer. You losers won’t get the catharsis of some grand event, life will slowly get worse and worse until the US is undeniably a shithole.

>>55980815
The drug epidemic of the 1970s was so bad that it drove over a million people out of NYC in that decade, it's the only decade in US history the city lost population and it was over a million fucking people getting the hell out of dodge. Drug usage is the worst it's been since the late 80s but it doesn't match the 70s by a long shot.

>>55980830
Th-thanks anon.

>>55979371
>>55980832
This. It will be a slow decline, roman empire style.

>>55978849
Lol good bait anon /biz/ will bite

>>55980862
It's going to be faster than you think with biden and the oligopolistic socialist jews in the style of a Larry Fink, Jeff Bezos, Mark zuckerjew, Buckley, Dimon and Muskrat

>>55980046
Europe has been socialist for decades yet our middle class is feeling fine as fuck compared to USA.

>>55980899
Because the Jewsa has paid until now for defence. Germanys social security and pension ponzi is about to collapse, it represents 3/4 of the expenses and that isn't the liabilities that are hidden in the different semi-state companies.

>>55978644
Not in a cool way. 300 years from now people will still think they're part of the empire.

>>55978644
Neither. It is going to slowly morph into brazil.

>>55980913
Germany has a gdp of about bit less than a trillion dollar, the Socialist expenses with the hidden liability represents about 1.8 trillion

>>55980913
>Because the Jewsa has paid until now for defence.
Lmao is this the propaganda you retards eat from rich people in USA? Finland paid it's defense entirely by itself for decades and still had a nice first world country.

And the jewsa is not far from repeating Germanys mistakes
It's going to end in a deflationary deathspiral with us producers and qualified workforce leaving literally for mexico

>>55980996
No it's the truth. How should a population where 20% work productive pay for 80% that expect to have everything paid for and life in riches? That's when you get a real gdp of -900 billion

>>55978644
Yes
>The United States will experience systemic collapse no later than 2060. Our country may dissolve into competing fiefdoms, bifurcate into warring halves, or sleepwalk into a totalitarian nightmare. Regardless of the specific form of collapse, our current system will not be able to perpetuate itself in a recognizable form. While this forecast is shocking, dire, and perhaps to some readers overly-dramatic, it is also an inescapable conclusion arising from objective examination of the current state of our nation.
>Social, political, and economic conditions in the United States are deteriorating. So far we have experienced a gradual decline. However, the dynamic of slow decay is extremely unlikely to continue. Instead, more generalized and rapid collapse, with attendant poverty, chaos, and violence will occur at some point in the coming years or decades.
>Preventing collapse would require a dramatic reshuffling of our political, economic, and social priorities. Avoiding the worst case scenarios would require many of the key beneficiaries of our current system to give up some of their power and wealth. Unfortunately, these entrenched interests effectively control nearly all avenues of change within the current system, they are largely blinded to the growing danger of systemic failure, and they apparently lack the ability or inclination to engage in long-term strategic planning. They will therefore try to perpetuate the broken system for as long as possible.
https://nationalcollapse.com/introduction

>>55981023
And that's the future of the usa when boomers go into retirement especially the (((publicly))) employed

>>55981023
Honestly, better than the american model of 60% of the wealth going to 1% of the population.

>>55978849
Lol, lmao even
(And yes I say this as a Eurofag)

>>55981098
You are going to enjoy deflationary deathspiral, you are going to starve

>>55980733
>the government literally had to send tanks on the streets to quell unrest,
If the people in charge in the 70s were in charge during BLM 2020 not only would there have been tanks in the streets the national guard would have been clearlng the streets with bayonets and live ammunition.

You're suffering from massive normalcy bias.

>>55981118
It's going to return, maybe not the national guard because those lack the human capabilities, but as soon as the last real right winger got that the state failed, it's going to be militias committing genocide on niggers spics, jews and Socialists and the world will cheer

>>55980808
I knew you had to be an oldfag because you posted the "I can't wait to bomb some dodongos" ytpmv.
Crazy how it was(n't) so long ago.

Ozymandias

>>55981111
Sure i will, just like my country has for the last 40 years while USA has been getting worse and worse as it has become less and less socialist (except for the banks).

>>55981221
You don't understand it. Guess you think deflation deathspiral means muah prices go down. You clowns are going to die

>>55981281
Exactly what part of USA getting worse and worse as it has become less and less socialist don't i understand? It was a social democracy in the 50's.

>>55981318
Wtf? Are you fucked in the head? Germany sees thanks to it's retarded socialist policies a literal fleeing of the productive population abroad, companies closing and not paying taxes in Germany, well qualified people fleeing abroad not paying taxes in Germany, while the amount of people expecting to live off other peoples future taxes are increasing. Enjoy dying like a chink or a cambodian socialist rat

And the USA is dying because it implemented socialist policies with businesses fleeing to Mexico, not paying taxes in the usa

>>55981363
USA has been doing nothing but cutting on public education since 50's.

>>55978644
lol keep dreaming, third worldie.

>>55981847
>Socialism is public education
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
But it literally did put in absolute numbers more future assumed productivity and reproduction rate into it, so it did into medical shit, public employed, indirect Subsidies of privat companies and many many more socialization of capital risk onto somebody else in the future

>>55981881
Yes? Public education and free healthcare are the basics of socialism. Western and northern europeans put way more into socialism and still today their middle class lives better lives than their counterparts in USA.

>>55982030
No the usa did and Europe went so far that it's real GDPs are negative
Socialism kills countries and kills the so called middle (((class))) that doesn't exist

>>55978644
Already did. The native born population collapsed economically, mentally, spiritually, and natally. Gen alpha is a completely different population of genetics.

>>55982043
>gdp
you realize that is made up jewish nonsene, right? it's driven by government spending and america relentlessly debtmaxxes because it (for now) holds reserve currency status.

in another 10 years america will be at parity in terms of
>brownoid populace (already majority non-white for <15 years of age)
>income flatness (minimum wage goes up while white collar jobs outside of tech stagnate)
>income inequality (already basically impossible to get ahead unless you're a jew)
>housing unaffordability (median home sale price is already out of reach of the median household income)

>>55979431
> civil war
Good one anon! Yeah aging millennials and zoomies which are all either gay or fat are going leave their coom rooms to lead a violent uprising. Lol you’re so funny

>>55978644
yes most certainly
no one can save at this point its already too late
in other words its over

>>55982120
>Believe my artificial story telling and attempt to create consensus
You are a liar

The next election is going to be a repeat of 2020 except the candidates will be even older and there's going to be even more violence. Does this seem like something that would happen in a healthy country?

>>55978644
standard of living will continue to decrease, AI will start chipping away at the cushy high paying office jobs. Blue collar work will become even less valuable because it will be the only job left AI can't automate. thus meaning everyone will into trades and such. Homes and land will keep getting more and more expensive. the government will at some point have to implement a UBI to keep the bottom serfs of society flush with enough cash to keep buying stuff. belive it or not the rich are such a small minority that they alone cannot keep the country afloat. the poor spending every dime they have is actually required.

so there you have it. cap the post if you want. it's the future.

>>55982612
There is nothing like an "AI" there is only a digital mechanical turk that relies in the background on 10000s slave workers curating data that the Algo indexed so the turk doesn't die from digital mad cow disease which in the end completely defeats the purpose of machine "learning" and indexing making the tech worthless

>>55982651
keep coping.

>>55982692
Cope about the factual truth? Lol that's the only thing not to cope about advertiser failing at his job

>>55981026
they will therefore try to perpetuate the broken system for as long as possible.
>>55981056
>and that's the future of the usa when boomers go into retirement especially the (((publicly))) employed
cue in the clotshots...

>>55978849
Oh the EU will be ethnically cohesive but it won't be European.

>>55982891
Just like the outsourced chink flu a non starter that won't solve the problem. Killed likely more young people than old, so completely defeating the purpose again

>>55978644

>>55982933
let me repost my post correctly so it should be more clear what i meant. I agree with you. I quoted from the post above you and the clotshot was their attempt to remedy that problem, since glowniggers can't into honesty and are utterly megalomaniac in nature.

>>55981026 #
>they will therefore try to perpetuate the broken system for as long as possible.
>>55981056 #
>and that's the future of the usa when boomers go into retirement especially the (((publicly))) employed
cue in the clotshots...

>>55982952
Replace the third blondie with a "la luz extinguido"

>>55978644
Americhuds oftentimes forget they own 90% of the actual infrastructural mechanisms that make the world turn. You guys are not collapsing, just like crypto isn't collapsing. Think of it this way, if this recession hasn't killed dawae (it just rebirthed) it won't kill Americuh, big changes will happen tho.
Chinks are some fantastic fudders for you guys to inhale so much copium when you're still the main characters of THE WORLD (tm)

>>55978849

>>55982978
I'm anyway more for bankrupting Boomers by killing Blackrock, Vanguard and Fidelity and then working them to dead in camps we can if you like give some nice sounding name like life long learning camps for the elder

>>55978849
lol
lmao even

>>55978644
I just want to move to Alaska and start an independence movement so I hope so

>>55978644
Your politicians literally have onset dementia

https://x.com/bnonews/status/1696936981920387571?s=46&t=JvGGi01ztB_vQPBpzXs_VA

>>55983485
How about you fuck off with your advertising and begging

>>55983513

>>55982952
this meme would be really good if the last american was latino

>slow decline over 300 years
dude everyone is armed and already a basket case. Burger soup is coming soon.

>>55983650
As an American burger soup sounds so fucking good

>>55983425
top kekkerino

>>55978644

At some point, yes.

>>55978644
Best country in the world. I hope it lasts for 1000 years at least. I'm not form there but ic an see every country outside North America and Europe is a shithole which is depressing.

>>55978644
World to the war to the 3
Czech em

>>55980808
Pals, friends buddies.
People are always waiting for the current Empire to fall. I am sure the Romans were bitching for hundreds of years of just two more weeks but took over a 1000 years and the Ottomans to put them down.

As long as the US has more Aircraft carries compared to every country combined and nukes. World War 3 will start with the US nuking every country that's entered BRICs in the future.

A country with 400m people with special toys vs the other 7.5 Billion people

>>55984659
Deflationary deathspirals and out of control hyperinflation usually end in civil wars/Anarchy

>>55978849
>EU
No lol
T.European

>>55982533
Imagine this "civil war" in your mind. Who is fighting whom? Who is being killed?
There is no coherent enemy. The problems we face are amorphous. It's like trying to fight a war a hurricane.

>>55984742
Naah breh, gonna be a huge war, good for profit, prop up the dollar and destroy competition, big moneyy$$$$

>>55984882
Ya, no civil war. Instead it's going to be WW3 or a much larger proxy war. If it's WW3 it will be total war between the West and China & Russia. Could also see a significant proxy war over Taiwan, Iran, and North Korea.

>>55984893
all the proxy wars will take place in africa if they take place.

>>55978644
Yes
Our so-called leaders are doing it intentionally

>>55978644
No idea, but I've completely checked out. None of the options are good and regardless of what actually happens securing yourself somewhere safe is a good move regardless

>>55978849
Anon the only thing I am certain about is we are going to loot Europe before we go, arguably the Ukraine war has begun this process, but if we recover that means we will double-loot you

>>55978644
nope

>>55985030
Yes. Thank socialism, boomers and the last 9 potus with the exception of Trump. Deflationary deathspiral is a given for the USA

>>55978644
I just subscribed to a 40 years life insurance policy linked to a JPMORGAN US index fund.

China's economic growth is slowing down and its population will be divided by 2 by 2100.

Europe is crippled by the war in Ukraine and all its promising companies are just bought by US tech giants.

Indian is India.

The 21st century is an US led century and betting all my money on it as an European.

>>55985046
Why deflation if the fed is gonna keep printing and eventually cut rates after consumers tap out?

>>55985080
Nope. Your advertising doesn't pull, you drove the USA against a wall with repacking html, database and nodejs for n-times pushing niggers and women as consumers. The result of such socialization of risk is deflationary deathspiral. USA goes down with china

>>55985046
socialism is what will save this country on the road to communism, good luck

>>55985083
China currently tries to get itself out of the deflationary deathspiral with lose monetary, doesn't work
That's the thing with economic deflation once you are in the trap you are in the trap and its going back to the mean and equilibrium, for the USA that means at least 1973

>>55985099
No. Socialization of capital risk into the future at a declining demographic is what got the USA into the mess
The USA is going to go through what France went when they lost their status as Hegemon to the British

>>55985106
huh the gdp of the us was 1.4 trillion in 1973

Once BRICS announces a new currency and gets a bunch of countries on board all those dollars will come flooding back and cause hyperinflation. The real question is, how do we prepare for the collapse?

>>55985131
Enjoy your sovereign debt crisis, dead of internal market, economic meltdown and debt deflation, and dismantling of military capacities, and judging by the political, cultural, ethnic.... cleavages in the country civil war. Hey at least inflation is going to go back under control and monetary base deflates

>>55985164
Brics won't make it, it's not rational for Russia or India the two contestants for potential new hegemon to drag themselves down with a retardation like the gayro that fucked Europe up from ever competing for the hegemony

>>55985188
are you sure india is going to be the new hegemon?
There's nothing impressive about russia either. They got population death.

>>55985219
Contestant. A country that has a shot at it. They have the food independence, they have to solve the energy independence, they have an internal market, they have nuclear capabilities, they have an army and air force that would need to be developed same as their naval capabilities but that's something that is doable. Russia and India have the best shot, but it's going to take some kind of 30 year war like competition backstabbing and changing alliance to make it happen. The usa is anyway out, fucked itself thanks to Alan

>>55985188
>Russia
Literally crippled from the Ukraine war, their economy will take decades to recover. The only way the Ukraine war will ever end is with Putins death and some spineless coward withdraws. Otherwise it will be a never ending stalemate that constantly sucks them dry. India is too stupid as a whole to ever become a world power. BRICS as a whole can absolutely can dethrone the dollar and also have enough firepower to stop burger intimidation of war

>>55985255
You underestimate Mr. Putin. Vladimir could take Ukraine easily, like Mr. Prigozhin wanted to do it, hard and fast, but there is a re-election and there are pockets that want to be lined and a war is the best way to line those pockets and secure power, that's why Mr. Prigozhin had to die.
And no, Brics is a meme and it's not about risking a position to make yourself dependent on some fuckwits like Brazil, Argentina, South Africa, Iran, Saudis, and the dying chinks. It's a strategical temporary alliance, the goal isn't to fuck the dollar, that's marketing. At one point either Russia or India is going to backstab, that's a given and China is going the cadaver that is going to be cannibalized to secure power and ultimate hegemony

>>55978953
>2008 financial crisis
>1st refugee crisis
>2015 debt crisis
>2nd refugee crisis + ISIS attacks
>2022 energy crisis
>nearly brought to its knees by a rotten decrepit shithole where 10-20% of the population still live like the 1800s
want more?

>>55985362
>Isis attacks
Lol that was Langley trying a repetition of operation Gladio with Sunnis to get the French and Hispanic in line for the competition with Russia in Syria

>>55985369
>32 posts by this ID
Actual mental illness. US wont collapse but your neck will under your own gravity & twisted rope

US Dollar will continue to be the reserve currency because it is a large economy, strong property rights, and rule of law -- at least more so than any other country that could plausibly have reserve currency. Nobody is ever going to trust a one-party totalitarian state like China, or a kleptocratic shithole like Russia. *Maybe* India in 100 years if they keep developing. LOL at South Africa, Brazil, Argentina (LMAO), or Saudis.

USA will do whatever it takes to maintain reserve currency status because the consequences for not doing so are so dire.

>>55985400
Sorry to be the bearer of bad messages. But it's hopeless. Everything is coming to crash down on the USA at the same time, and the Indians and Russian waited for that moment. There is no way out, and the Biden administration lacks the support for an all out nuclear war, and Putin wont give them an excuse

>>55985436
Russia is an irrelevant kleptocratic shithole. It has an entirely dysgenic, lazy, drunk, low IQ, low inhib population. All of the women are LITERAL whores.

>The bolsheviks killed most everyone with any decent talent or genes
>After the fall of the Soviet Union, anyone with any decent talent or brains left for the West.
>More brain drain with Ukraine war.
>Physical infrastructure is all soviet era.

It is a hollowed-out husk of a country that has passed the point of no return. It is basically half Belarus, half Kazakhstan, but with some Soviet-era nukes on hand. It is without the human capital to be a major player on the world stage.

>>55985475
>Underestimating your opponent
Stupid hubris Clinton era retardation. Russia isn't the Russia from Jelzin anymore and hasn't been for nearly 30 years. A long time where 1.5 new generation was created.

>>55981221
>USA has become less and less socialist
hold still

>>55978644
No, it’ll just keep crumbling until its basically Brazil with more billionaires. Really its already at least halfway if not more there, we just have slightly better infrastructure to where people gorge on fast food slop instead of macacos and don’t have to take electric showers. This is the same fate the rest of the world will be in as well, the same garbage drudgery with various things dangled in front of people’s faces like carrots on sticks to keep them preoccupied and thinking that one day that’ll be them too. And all of that is the better ending.

>>55985543
The last time I was in the USA the infrastructure was on the level of a gypsy ghetto in Hungary

>>55985523
Russia isn't our opponent. China is our opponent.

China is the modern Nazi Germany, with the industrial power for a war machine, committing a genocide against Uighurs, and expansionist ambitions.

Russia is more like Italy and Ukraine is like Italy's misadventures in North Africa and Greece, which eventually required getting bailed out by the Germans (Chinese).

>>55979816
>No, things aren't even close to as bad now as they were in the 70s by any metric.
was there remotely as much debt?

I'd prefer it not to, but the upside of that is that you may find enough left over to rebuild with.

I know it sounds counter intuitive, but if it's a long slow decline, there may be nothing at the end. It's all ground off....into dust!

>>55985555
I hope you are just an amateur because what you just wrote stinks of stuck in the 90s

>>55985610
True. The best bet for the USA is shock therapy. Get rid of the cancer frim the Clinton era that is still poisoning the agencies and financial environment. Blackrock, vanguard, fidelity, jpm, goldman sachs, the Clinton era cancer still in Langley and Quantico and the rest of the administration needs to be purged, they are full of hubris a d stuck in the 90s

>>55985523
Hey Ivan you do not understand your own country. How everyone thought it was going to go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CvQOuNecy4
How it actually went:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO7HXrhHOS8

it will never change

>>55978644
I’d bet my FUN stack it will. On serious note, I’ll actually make a suggestion to freebitco to get some odds for this

>>55985675
I'm not an Ivan and after the Prigozhin assassination I would honestly prefer the United States to remain Hegemon, but with the current cancer that is mentally stuck in 1998 it's game over for the USA

>>55982952
China is much bigger and you also have a ton of other countries against you now.

>>55978644
No.
I could say more, but do I need to? Calm the fuck down anon, hell is eternal.

>>55985722
China is dead. China is in the trap of a deflationary deathspiral and it's lose monetary policy while desperately trying to gain food independence and find somebody in the Stand to sell them water 40 years too late is done, completely utterly fucking done. You have to be a dinosaur removed from reality like the communist traitor Kissinger to give china if Xi any merit

>>55985737
>mr xi the housing collapse what do we do now
>stop building houses
>but what about the stonk
>delete

>>55985737
A bit of economic hardship has never stopped anyone from going to war

>>55985810
With what? Nuclear bombs from the 70s in half baked icbms? fishing vessels for low water that have chinese coast guard slapped on the hull? Tanks that break every few km? Drones from Iran? An air force that is for a great part not able to get in the air? An army of hungry changs that they cant feed? China has no armed forces able to project power

>>55985737
China is *just now* starting to die, they are nowhere close to dead. And what better way to avoid a deflationary death spiral than starting a war that will require substantial industrial production and money printing?

>>55985623
What is your argument that Russia is anything other than a flailing regional power?

>>55985874
And a war would also help kill of some of their excess male problem too.

>>55985883
Russia used to have the economy of nigeria. Now it'll have the economy of idk

It already did in the 1980s when the USA began relying wholly on fiat currency deficit spending while flooding the country with browns.

Then again in the 2010s when every millennial and zoomer chick got ran through with a million cocks on dating apps and became obese.

>>55985874
They have lose monetary policy, but they don't have fucking food independence, the most important base since forever. If you can't feed your soldiers you are not going to war with anyone. And despite chinas retardedly large pr trying to paint it as something it isn't, it remains a weak regional power with no force projection capacity, just a toothless dragon with a demographic problem 100% dependent on imports and a dead export economy.

>>55985889
That you are stuck in the 90s. Russia hasn't yet global force projection capacity but its closer then china is ever going to be, with being food independent, energy independent, an internal market, a respectable land force, a respectable airforce, modern nuclear capacities, a questionable navy and the industrial capacity to pump out tanks and shells at a high level
>>55985895
Germany, Russia beat Germany

>>55985555
>Russia isn't our opponent. China is our opponent.
This is true. Russia is actually our ally, helping us conquer Africa before the chinx take over. Americans sowed seeds of hate over the years, so Russia is the frontman. The Ukraine war is a diversion. If you think I’m wrong, ask yourself how the US and Russian military both have bases in Sudan and they have no problems?

>china has no food independence
but it has russia

>>55985940
No argument. that's thing with giving brics too much merit. It's a lose forum, not a close alliance. Russia is same as India not going to compensate chinas internal issues chang

>>55985928
>and the industrial capacity to pump out tanks and shells at a high level
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

>>55985956
No. That's what has been fucking hohols raw in the ass. Shells shells and more shells to feed the artillery

>>55978644
As fucked as it is every other country is more fucked

t. Canadian with Chinese, Indian, Korean, Italian, British friends who all wish we lived in the US right now

But anyway, the USA and china are likely going to die together, because both are tied to the hip thanks to idiots stuck in the late 99s still thinking Jintao is in charge and china is growing forever while the one child policy has long fucked the country. Two retardation countries with boomers that never arrived in the 22st century going to die from a deflationary deathspiral

>>55980733
Yup this. Americans have repressed 1967-1978.
Our BLM race riots now are fucking multiracial affairs with whites outnumbering blacks at times, and with full backing by mainstream media. Oh yeah and Netflix and Hulu channels for diverse voices and shit.

See Taxi Driver, 1976 Martin Scorsese Cameo to understand what really decay looks like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6frLQWOSlQ

>>55980808
if you remember the 90s and the early 2000s then you would know that quality of life in this country has gone down significantly since, in every single way.

>>55986075
Only that trust in msm is at all time low same as quotas and viewers with audience average age of 65. That's not how shared reality and artificial consensus is created in the 21st century

>>55986006
that was ten years ago, both countries have devested from each other in different ways, more so after covid

>>55986123
Yes, here we agree, after the china flu something broke. That doesn't change that the drooling boomer stuck in the late 90s still in charge have realized that. It's funny those idiots have become their parents stuck in the late 1950s only that this time the can can't be kicked and they are currently destroying with their hubris a 90 year long build hegemony

>>55986006
While far from the worst in the world, Russia is far from a beacon of great demography.

>>55980996
The US has been the sole stabilizing factor in Europe the last 80 years. It has kept all the major countries, especially Germany, from chimping out.

>>55986148
True but compared to china and as you say the west, that's far more than necessary to compete with India about the hegemony over the next 50 years I think, while China dies due to its geography and the west got fucked by senile boomers with nostalgia that refuse to die and have chosen retards as their heirs

>>55978644
Yes, after every other country collapses first.

>>55986177
No. USA dies thanks to Boomers with nostalgia and their heirs that remind them about themselves, pink haired sjw types and diversity niggers not fit for the 21st century together with china in a deflationary deathspiral

>>55980733
dude it's futile, it's a board of chud neet zoomers
they're about as good of students of history as they are of anything else which is also why they have no money

>>55986193
You are the reason the USA is on a speed train to lose its hegemony getting replaced by indians or Russians. Congrats kumbaya nigger,

>>55986198
I hope it was worth it hunting imagined nazis on the internet to grift. You are going to starve

And that is something the sjw type and the nostalgia boomers never thought about. The milktosque conservative won't accept peace and won't cooperate when its the most necessary

America is fucked. The likely most retarded way a nation in the history of humanity ever lost its hegemony

>>55980733
Find the difference

>>55986258
The two scammers Greenspan and Bernanke at action. History is going to be clear on where the end of the US hegemony started, in 1996

>>55986275
Why 1996?

>>55986287
1993. Fucking phone posting. Clinton, the first boomer president

>>55979365
Imagine the US economy without an endless supply of cheap disposable garbage manufactured in the third world. There would be mass suicides and riots instantly.

>>55986313
The Trump plan to secure hegemony would have worked. But the nostalgia boomers and their pink haired freak heirs followed their plan like a bunch of qtards. The result in likely a year or two the USA is just a weak regional power

>>55986330
>The result in likely a year or two the USA is just a weak regional power
You are not a serious person.

>>55986346
And you are a freak with 0 knowledge on geopolitics outside of cultist new liberal institutionalism. Something that wasn't relevant past 2008

The kumbaya socialist crowd is the dead of the USA. When anti war boomers with nostalgia and brainwashed marxists get that to be a hegemon you need an armed force with people willing to fight and die for a country doesn't just spring out of thin air, it's too late. 3 quarters of the armed forces of the USA not filling their recruitment quotas. It's going to be fast that the USA won't be able to project force anymore. Then the country lost officially its hegemonic status. That's two years away

Together with the deflationary deathspiral due to an economy build around uber drivers and Airbnb scammers with more and more socialism its likely complete tilt

>>55986400
>That's two years away
Two weeks!

>>55986400
buddy its been a slow downhill descent for the us since the year 2 fucking thousand. I ain't fighting a fucking thing. To preserve what?

>>55986432
Oh a boring meme is all you can come up with. Where are those soldier and navy seals going to come from to man the fleet? I know, lets import them so we can sell them real estate.
The usa is totally utterly fucked.

>>55986436
You gave up good. Role over and die. Put a shot gun in your mouth and pull the trigger

>>55978644
e

>>55986450
the economy would do better under communism as there'd be 100% employment instead of 60% ff
How the economy functions at all is a mystery

>>55986474
Now you are memeing. Do I need to post the china youth unemployment chart?

>>55986111
>not how shared reality and artificial consensus is created in the 21st century
Totally agreed, but lack of consensus won't make the country "implode and collapse." We'll just keep skating along with our separate atomized screens (soon to be personalized thanks to AI), and Huxleyian Soma drugs (super edibles).

>>55986533
Ai doesn't exist. Machine "learning" and indexing requires infinite human slave workers to curate the indexes so the digital mechanical turk doesn't die from digital mad cow disease, it's worthless like crypto. And a nation with no shared reality dies, especially a nation that was a hegemon. And an economy dies with no shared reality as no common economic model can exist. The reaction in this thread to my little larp prove, that the USA wont make it. Together with the other data gathered on shitter, /pol/, facebook and in discords its clear, the USA is not going to make it

you still won't be able to buy a house faggot rentoid

>>55986643
>Buy my bags
In 10 to 15 years. Oh no. My parents have 4 homes

>>55980733
LOL HES STILL HOLDING THE CIG HAHAHA

>>55978644
rome wasnt built in a day, nor did it fall in a day. we could be in the collapse right now and not even know it, or we could not be.

>>55986569
>it's worthless like crypto
i bought a house because of my crypto investments tho...

>>55986701
You are in a collapse since 1993

>>55986709
So. There were people that got money from speculating on junk bonds, others made money with tulips, then there were those that bought the tulips at the top

>>55978849
I was just in paris for work last week.
Niggers as far as the eyes can see.
Not the marginally intelligent american kind, I’m talking the full sub-60 IQ feral lightbulb-head retarded/violent somali niggers.

>>55986796
Sounds repulsive. Last time I was there Paris was filled with White people and I jerked off in the Louvre. Fond memories. Glad I haven't been in years. Couldn't face the decline.

>>55979451
>Niggers is unironically bullish.

>>55986883
You replied to an unironic marxist baggie

>>55986717
>all this mindbroken babble
seeing a depressed trumptard only made me more bullish for America. 6k S&P EOY go go go

>>55986977
Are you some drooling psychoanalyst? You know you follow esoteric

>>55978644
no, only for the mask wearing faggots

>>55987009
Are you going to join the army or navy, maybe air force

>>55986995
>being this bad at schizo larp
>>>/x/

>>55987042
So you are?
By now I just mock you baggies on this board. Got everything I came here for
The china thread, hijacking this thread and the other thread

>>55987056
>look how much of a cool based top kek troll I am

>>55987085
No. I'm just mocking you. Too caffeinated to sleep, so I mock the few baggies on this board trying to sell dead ponzi scams

>>55985099
He got expelled for this btw. Fuck commies. Ruined his entire life for an ideology with over 100 million body count. Care to join?

>>55986569
>And a nation with no shared reality dies
See pic related. Even our latino immigrants buy into the shared reality.
USA will continue to kick mucho ass.

>>55985436
Russia hasn't educated enough engineers or had enough males born since the 80s. Their demographics are behind China in terms of collapse but theirs is still one of the worst. This is the last generation that will even be sufficient enough for them to defend their own borders. They're aren't going to thrive whatsoever for the rest of the century. Don't believe me go look up their demographic death. They're wasting what few men they have in a meat grinder rather than pouring resources into them and reforming the system so they can repopulate. It's already too late for Russia and China.

>>55987151
I should be more precise, shared reality is meant as mass behaviorism. Something everyone believes in and knows about has the same opinion at worst you have pro contra positions to the same story. Like it was the case during the radio and tv era when the entire family and all neighbors watched a show

>>55985475
This

>>55987182
50 years. 50 years that are going to be dominated in the west by the heirs of the Clintonians that got brain washed harder by marxists than their predecessor, and actually believe it. If the USA and Europe doesn't purge, Russia is coming out on top compared to the west

>>55986946
i read it in Paulie's voice, retard, i love marxists

>>55987221
Is that a joke? If so not funny

We're becoming Brazil 2 but slowly. I honestly want nukes to fly off because they keep fucking us in the ass financially every day.

>>55987235
This is a very poor attempt at creating a consensus with spam

>>55987270
Maybe you need meds

>>55987186
>mass behaviorism
Yes your point is valid and well taken. But wouldn't that preclude ANY nation having a shared reality due to technology?
(except Amish, ultra-Orthodox Jews and Buddhist monks)

>>55978644
maybe

>>55987232
no i genuinely love marxists, especially ones here because they're not gonna whine about idealism and refuse to play the shitty game we're all playing

>>55978644
2 more weeks

>>55978849
>Yes and the EU will take its place as the world's sole superpower.
God, I love this bait

>>55978849
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>55978849
I thought I was in /int/ for a moment lmao

>>55978849
You're a fucking retard kek

>>55986432
Why my dick erected?

its gona turn into china 2.0 police state which will trigger secessio and mass revolts

>>55978849
LOL. lmao even

>>55988553
>Among children under ten, about 40 percent already have a migration background
Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

>>55988565

>>55987307
You don't get the point doesn't matter, it's over for the usa
>>55987333
This board is dead and that's the funny thing it's always marxist holding bags to 0

>>55978914
slow death will fuck everyone over
either revolution asap
or quick chaos and fragmentation