/biz/ - Business & Finance

Sneed

crypto nerds will seethe
D&C "gold only" fags are from Tel Aviv
God bless all normal PM stackers

>>55938715
>Vreneli Edition
Happy Friday /pmg/ !
Let's go

The OP pic is gold because this is another gold thread. :-)

>>55938946
>The same 4 pictures repeated
Get some new posts anon

>>55938946
Already?

What's /pmg/ having for Friday breakfast?
I'm frying up some taters and eggs. Wish i had some ham or bacon to go with it

>>55938995
Settings->Filter->Edit
Pattern: 9zEHb9i/
Type: ID
Thread is comfy again.

>>55939098
I just had oatmeal and sweet tea.

>>55939098
Do you have any lunchmeat? Microwave some salami and it smells and tastes just like bacon.

Why do you stack?

>>55939125
Insurance policy. And it’s a little fun.

Hoping the BRICS learn from the Latin Monetary Union. It will save them time.

>>55939098
I'm fasting so cool it with the food talk!

>>55939125
Three thousand years of humanity could be wrong, but probably not.

>>55939120
all i got is some beef hot dogs or smoked turkey cold cuts

>>55939125
I stack because the vast majority of humanity's purchasing power is tied up in a broken financial system. An ungodly amount of purchasing power is tied up in overleveraged assets such as stocks, bonds and insurance and the banking system is dangerously overleveraged and backed by collateral whose value is also leveraged higher than it should be.
This equates to a massive shortfall of real value and everyone is pretending that these toxic IOUs are actually valued at par when there is not a chance in hell we can make good on all of the loans and portfolios owned by everyone. The banking system is now in the ponzi stage where they are more interested in managing your drawdowns than actually being sustainable. I want valuable assets outside of the banking system. If I could buy commodities such as gasoline and reliably store it in my garage I would buy it. However spoilage is a real concern for long term value storage. Metals are extremely valuable to humanity and require a massive investment of energy and manpower to acquire. I own PMs because the value is safe and has no counterparty risk. As the ponzi nature reveals itself, a massive run to QUALITY assets will unfold in my opinion and it will be like a game of musical chairs. We will be slowly simmered in stagflation until it cannot be hidden anymore. It could take another ten years for all I know. What I do know is I do not need to be worried about whatever calamity is headed our way because when the pieces fall I will already be in the right spot to survive and even thrive.

>>55939143
I still say the best way to save a lot of money with insurance is to simply not pay them and lock yourself in your house, nothing bad can happen to you if you are in the comfort of your home right? I do this to have an excuse to concentrate on everything I have on x.com, its a win-win to me

>>55938977
It's 14 pics. I might take some silver pics or new gold pics next week.

>>55939125
As bit of diversification, and insurance against happenings.

>>55939206
They will copy, not innovate.
Anyway, i wonder what happens if Germany or Australia asks to join BRICS.
They should do it, just to troll the Chinks and Russkies.

>>55939399
>Germany interrupts every meeting with long diatribes about how BRICS countries need to be more tolerant of LGBTQIA2+ people

>>55939343
Based. Don’t forget to take your fish oils too.

>>55939399
let me guess, you're a pro-ukraine faggot too

>>55938715
Want to buy some Rhodium ETC but the spread is too width, is a bad idea?
>Anon if you don't hold it you don't own it
Yeah OK

>>55939460
Anon, if you don’t hold it you don’t own it.

is there a reliable EU dealer that accepts monero?

>>55939460
I thought about buying some but it is pretty scary how expensive it is when it is the same silvery color as all the others. Reselling will also be a bitch. It could be a good investment but I don't think I particularly want the headache.

>>55939125
It is peak comfy, and my stack actually grows over time unlike my investment account.

>>55939460
>meme metal
>an ETF
yeah that's a yikes

>>55939125
For enjoying the aesthetics or connecting with the past or declaring an interest, knowing there is always value underlying the art. It's win-win.

>>55939438
Sure, i'm from Ukraine bud.
Last thread i was an illegal Mexican living in the US, as proclaimed by some Republican manchild.

>>55939460
As an investment/speculation? Why not, you have to have commodities.
As an insurance against financial turmoil? No.

>>55939486
>is there a reliable EU dealer that accepts monero?
You mean an idiot dealer that accepts worthless tokens and gives you gold for it?
I don't think so.
Sell Monero bags to another loser for fiat, then buy gold with fiat bags.

>>55939544
Noice.

>>55939555
I asked if you were pro-ukraine, not from ukraine
is reading difficult for you

If we're going to be posting as fictitious characters. I'd like to play as a Canadian. I love Canada and Canadian Silver coins

>>55939555
you keep posting the same 2 coins over and over mate calm down, I was asking people with a bit more awareness

https://www.businessinsider.com/jpmorgan-bought-nickel-received-stones-not-new-commodities-warehouse-2023-3?amp

Reminder. If you are goofy enough to buy gold and then have some third party hold it for you (very kind of them), at least be clever enough to go and ensure that they actually have your stuff stored.

They're here.

I buy platinum because it's more rare than gold or silver, even without the manipulating

I buy platinum because it's used in chemotherapy and the number of users who will need that is going to go up indefinitely

I buy platinum because it's used more and more each year in jewelry. China is the largest market for platinum jewelry.

When you play video games and are trying to get trophies, is gold the top tier? Anyone holding gold and silver should also have a few ounces of platinum too. Even if it's just for speculation.

>>55939561
>I asked if you were pro-ukraine
Why do you want to know if i'm pro-ukraine? This is /pmg/.

>>55939585
What are you going to do about it? My guess is nothing.

>>55939587
Usually they claim some kind of audit from some official sounding entity, it's often just another company they created out of thin air. Like "Precious Metal Auditing Institute London LTD"

>>55939621
Man, the only audit I’d believe is the one conducted by The Me-Myself-I Conglomerate.

>>55939587
I mean, that's just one example. Surely there aren't more.

https://fortune.com/2023/07/04/silver-dealer-robert-higgins-alleged-fraud-scheme-argent-first-state-american-eagle-coins/

>>55939633
Rightfully so.

>>55939651
I think of shit like this every time people call me paranoid.
>you seriously think someone would…
>Yes, I do.

Hopefully it's not flipped this time.

>>55939669
I'm not at home, but on my computer I have about a dozen links of various stories over the last few years with the same scenario and outcome.

There's a reason we keep repeating "if you don't hold it, you don't own it."

keep stacking bros HODL!! drain the vault! these bankrupt mf*ckerz cant last much longer

edit: thanks for the gold kind stranger!

>>55939621
whether you are pro-ukraine or not affects whether anyone should listen to you regarding PMs

>>55939612
that's nice but it's not a money metal
also you might wanna leave the video game stuff out of your sales pitch, it's not necessary

Picked up a gold 1oz maple the other day and have a minor scratch on one side, picked it up new from TD Am I being unreasonable in expecting a generally pristine coin? Little pissed that it has that Mark and has anyone else ever done anything about this?

>>55939544
Well-said Fren!

>>55939585
Reminder that no one will buy your Monero bags, not for gold anyway. Enjoy getting fucked, Monero Moron, huehuehue.

>>55939760
>whether you are pro-ukraine or not affects whether anyone should listen to you
But Anon, that is not for you to decide now, is it?
Kiss my piss, Vatnik. (-:

>>55939796
Depends on the scratch. 9999 gold is very soft. Some buy Krügerrand or Eagles because they use harder alloys that you can fondle more.
Show pic.

>>55939612
I see platinum as primarily a hydrogen fuel cell tech play. Hydrogen is the underdog in the electric car biz, but is gaining ground and has some huge backers. I have not researched the medicine aspect so have no opinion. On a limited budget, I would stick to gold and silver. But for diversity and interest, platinum has a place.

Sorry for the old pic. My platinum is not easily accessible.

>>55939125
I like to keep my money out of the hands of incompetent bankers

Are you:
The virgin "silver ends the kikes! the USD will crumble long live Putin I have never had sex woohoo! when moon?"

or the chad "I like shiny."

>>55939834
silver people usually understand why monero is good but you have 2 gold coins and your personality revolves around them

>>55939745
hahahaha based

>>55939760
you are a massive arse bandit

>>55939907
>you have 2 gold coins
What if i had three?
>and your personality revolves around them
No, just you. I'm here to piss you off, that is all.
Works splendidly. (-:<

>>55939796
yes you’re being unreasonable if you expect pristine you need to buy pristine slabbed graded numismatic coins. Even then sometime they have copper spotting.

>>55939612
Games and records use "platinum" as the top tier as part of a BigPlatinum jewish psyop so they could sell a metal that for most of human history has been regarded as a worthless impurity in silver

>>55939125
When I buy stocks, line go down. Always.

>>55939848
Hydrogen is a fucking scam, pumped by the likes of Trevor Milton

>>55940010
This. Hydrogen is a joke.
"Wow, look at the energy density MJ/Kg!"
>until you add the massive fuck off steel canister you need to actually store a compressed gas it and all of a sudden its about as energy dense than a fucking lithium battery. So the whole world will be driving around in a LITERAL BOMB for no reason

The slightest fault and the M25 looks like fucking Bahkmut

>>55940084
The vehicles use carbon fiber/steel composite tanks, theyre not all that heavy.

Someday pmg will be a comfy thread where all the chuds, troops, russian bots, christcucks, etc etc, even the ugly jannies; will join together and chill on a big couch and fondle each other's coins. WAGMI together dummies.

Until then, fuck off back to pol boring ass bitches!

>>55939570
Canadian here: if you're already an American, trust me you are so, so much better off. Our government is absolutely awful and the reason I'm stacking so much is because we're hitting weimar levels of hyperinflation soon.

>>55940108
>Someday pmg will be a comfy thread where all the chuds, troops, russian bots, christcucks, etc etc, even the ugly jannies; will join together
>even the ugly jannies

>>55938715
I have a scrap load on ebay that is so insane I am pacing around hoping it gets shipped out.

>>55939687
>>55939610
how do you like them anon?

>>55939555
As an insurance if there is no financial turmoil, my portfolio is all happening and some corona stocks I bought during the bubble (online learning), for some reason my country small cap stock exchange wasn't booming.
It's just used too be so expensive this metal and its so rare

>>55940101
Hydrogen certainly triggered an emotional outburst here. Curious. Tesla bag holders?

Turns out, hydrogen is already on the road and infrastructure is being put into place in several civilized countries. And even more exciting, there may be vast geological deposits of free hydrogen. Drilling is in progress.

>>55939834

Sure you can see it under the bottom left hand side of the leaf, sorry for the quality it's a bitch to get it to focus

>dumparooski
two more weeks until "YOU WERE RIGHT ON ACCIDENT"

>guccis arriving tomorrow
I can't wait to flip mine on ebay

>>55940391
>geological deposits of free hydrogen
>Drilling is in progress
wut? wat? Drilling for hydrogen?

>>55940427
You get better focus if you move the camera away, best in indirect daylight. At least you got the color matched perfectly :-)
Anyway, i don't think this is something you should be worried about., as these coins have no value over spot anyway, nor will they likely have any in the future.
If you want to insist you could call them and ask to get a replacement, say it's supposed to be a present or something.
But i wouldn't.

'23 Prospectors are getting packed and shipped
Received the first draft of the Crusader, collecting all feedback. Artist was given the 2 references we had made and told to do it how they wanted. Let me know what you think this one compared to the others and what changes you might like

>>55940551
here's the smaller "at coin size" version

>>55940564
how much will these cost? Great looking coins. Want one for my wife (she's obsessed with Apu)

>>55940578
Presale period was months ago unfortunately. I've just been very slow at getting it to this point

>>55940599
ah fair.

>>55940551
>>55940564
I'm having an issue with Apu's face, why do he look so evil?
Otherwise everything else looks fine to me, tho i'd prefer a more medieval looking font for "coom gladio et..."

>>55940702
Yea I'm terrible with fonts but open to suggestions
Not sure why you're getting evil vibes, maybe the prominence of the nose

>>55940792
A nice Serif would suit this coin very well. You could look into something like Larken, but a taller font like ITC's Garamond would look good too. Alternatively if you want to keep up with the teutonic cross, you could use a Fraktur font! That might be quite neat !
Sorry I'm a font autismo

>>55940792
>evil vibes, maybe the prominence of the nose
long nose tribe confirmed evil ones

>>55940831
Font Autismo is a needed position on every coin project. I'll see if I can get those fonts and get them mocked up in the design program

>>55940792
>>55940859
Well, I'm happy to be your font autismo. If you want to have me on hand, my protonmail is ashcheckem@protonmail.com
I used to work in a classic hand-set typesetting print shop, where every letter of every word had to be set by hand before anything was printed, and I was one of the design/font guys on the team - love fonts simple as.
If you wanted something old looking but still easily readable, you could look into Rotundas or other blackletter script typeface fonts. The Rotunda is the most legible to more modern eyes, but most fonts from that era developed from the Carolingian Miniscule font, which is a beautiful font that is mostly hand-written. It's the font that Tolkien mimicked in his handwriting, so if you've ever admired his writing on maps etc., you've admired Carolingian Miniscule!

I never even check the price of gold and silver. not really. every now and then I'll gloss over it in between checking the prices of stocks, but I really couldn't care less what gold and silver are doing.

I saw some imbecile on twitter crying his actual eyes out last week "sub 1900 gold incoming. uh. im gonna die. I cant take it anymore." and I was just flabbergasted anyone would give a shit. I woke up the other day to find I'd made another £1000 overnight on my small Nvidia holding and I sold 75% of my position for a hefty profit. could not care less about the gold and silver price. might buy a few more sovereigns with my stock market winnings.

should I buy another rifle?
Or should i buy an oz of Gold?

>>55941020
Why would you want more rifles?

>>55940391
>Tesla bag holders?
Nah I'm somewhat involved in the industry....which is a cluster fuck btw
>OEM's wont designing properly
fucking light duty vehicles like mirai/clarity should be designed as ev vehicle with h2 range extender. Like why the fuck do you want to burn h2 at $16/kg around town?
>regulatory wont incentivize
they lump h2 in with EV and EV is a much much bigger industry
>AHJ's have made the codes practically unworkable to the point where you have to file hazops any time you want to do anything.
Like class 1 div 1 zone is 17 ft from an oraphice....fuck I have a natural gas meter right below my electric panel at my house.

>>55941020
yes

>>55941043
how is this even a question?
that's like asking "why would you want to continue breathing?"

>>55939125
I like real wealth not fun-bux-shit-tickets and/or funny numbers on a computer screen. Can't have those computers without PMs.

>>55940885
This is a fresh, new kind of autism. I kinda like it.

>>55941020
Another rifle. Those ones are meh.

>>55941142
Thanks fren. I enjoy it.

>>55940551
this looks really good to me

>>55941197
https://www.shootersnj.com/

pick one. the NJ bs only allows two offending features

>>55941087
based meme anon
whoever created it must be a genius, and very sexy too
the creator of that meme is gmi

limited edition frenbacks please

>>55940551
Did you go with the writing on the sides of the coins or ridges or? The evil vibe is coming from the 3 pupils in each eye. Very good coin though. How many were sold of each version in the end?

>>55941020
>>55941239
>someone will steal your boxes
>NJ inferiority complex
Checks out.

>>55940551
Fraktur font is an amazing choice.

>>55941378
>>55941393
We're still going with the writing on the side, I'll check in to mocking up Fraktur later today. Taking longer than expected to get all the prospector shipments sorted

>>55941421
glad you're mocking up fraktur. It's quite nice. I stand by it as a great choice for the teutonic feel of the coin.

>>55941421
to get the best looking fraktur fonts look up any of the Deutsche Schrift fonts on whatever database you use for your fonts. They're usually patrician. dieter steffmann's fonts and version of the Deutsche Schrift is great.

>>55939975
>ancient egyptian tombs decorated with platinum
>higher melt point than silver
>more dense than silver or gold
>used in computers, fertilizers, fiberglass, airbags etc etc et
>industrial use has 5x since 1980
>anon has no idea about cisplatin
>hydrogen fuel cells

Your ignorance is showing. Tell me how platinum is worthless again?

>>55940483
Yup.
https://www.usgs.gov/news/featured-story/potential-geologic-hydrogen-next-generation-energy

>>55941378
>How many were sold of each version in the end?
Regular - 379
Gilded - 474
Total production numbers haven't been determined yet but maybe 400/500

>>55941046
You probably know more about it than I do (not a high bar, by the way). But I'm not seeing anything in your post that is even close to a deal killer or a "scam". Looks more like confusion, ineptitude, and typical government corruption/stupidity. All of that can be overcome easily of the technology is solid and there is profit in it.

>>55940551
What's with his eyes?

>>55941421
I'm baffled why we're still talking design after nearly a year of muddling about.
"Why don't you just fix your little problem and light this candle?" - Alan Shepard

>>55939796
That's annoying. Did you pick it up at your branch or order online? If its the former its imperative you look over the coin before walking out and or paying for it. I have never personally had an issue with TD, online, or through my branch. My LCS had some Asahi rose compass silver coins and when they handed them to me I almost forgot my golden rule to look them over before paying/leaving. After closer inspection there was a few milk spots on three of the coins. I had them swapped out and left with more pristine looking ozs. If you bought it online you're kinda at the mercy of the customer service agent but I feel like you would be SOL if you wanted it swapped. If you are buying in person, always inspect the coin.

>>55941602
>But I'm not seeing anything in your post that is even close to a deal killer or a "scam".
Yeah no, not saying that. I honestly believe H2 is the future for many sectors. Its an uphill fight though and not too sure when it will come into its own; I've heard it expressed that its basically where solar was ~20 years ago.
Keep and eye on these guys and PLUG.
https://www.intelligent-energy.com/our-products/

>>55939930
A proof coin should be enough. But you can also buy 22k BU coins like krugerrands which are more resistant to scratches, and have low premiums. New ones anyway, because the older ones will have some wear and imperfections.

Heads up bros, there is some great deals going on for my fellow numisfags and East India Company enjoyers.

>EIC VIP Sale
https://collections.theeastindiacompany.com/collections/vip-offer

Lots of coins are 50% off including 2022 Gothic Crowns. Free shipping as well with code FREESHIPPING for orders over 150£ (this includes to the US and internationally, I am a burger and got free shipping with my order using this code). I frequent EIC and have not seen prices this low in quite some time, some great deals to be had if you enjoy their stuff, wanted to pass along to my pmg frens.

>>55941710
Thanks.

>>55941710
If they figure out how to recapture the water from the fuel cell 'exhaust,' it would be a boon to living in the desert - a source of water. A place where sunlight for solar cells providing electricity to split (sea) water is plentiful.

>>55941448
>>55941428
I'm not sure if this will work

>>55941794
>Lots of coins are 50% off
They have got to mean 50% off the *premium*, not the metal.

>>55940551
>>55940564
Looks completely based.

>>55941817
You can recapture it, I think it was mercedes that drove their h2 van through the desert and the guys drank the water from the fuel cell. The cars piddle on the ground, its kinda cute lol.

>>55941826
Those look like shit, ngl

>>55941826
Those are no bueno "free font site" frakturs. You gotta look into the proper Schrift's that the german government has used.
I'm giving you "styles" of fonts, not necesarilly names. If you just google them you'll get a thousand shitty font generator fonts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraktur
check this article out.

>>55941863
they aren't proper Fraktur's. Proper Frakturs look like pic related
Also font-wise:
MOST FONTS ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR CAPSLOCK
Most fonts (almost 99% of them!!) are designed for you to have both upper and lower case characters on anything you're printing or engraving.
Fun fact: the terms "upper case" and "lower case" came from the fact that old printers and typesitters would literally just keep the capital letters on the higher-up cases of letters, and the small letters on the cases below them.

>>55941863
>>55941871
>>55941890
This is why it's good to have a Font Autismo around. I was wrong putting it in all caps

>>55940564
the eyes look like bowling balls

i can't have this many tabs open

>>55940476
Mine arrived. Looking pretty good.

>>55941421
i thought this was going to be the edge text?

pic related

Holy shit guys, I think I might pick up this rare 1998 Hong Kong 5 dollar coin, never seen a deal like this before.

>>55942307
Good value!

>>55940551
Yeah, I think you just need to change the font.

>>55942306
As I always keep on saying, most of this is junk data and doesn't tell you shit about its trend.

>>55942374
7 million ounces moved to registered. That's quite a lot.

>>55942295
do you prefer that over amici erimus in aeternum?

>>55942295
It must have been agreed to be changed at some point before the item went for sale since the description has the current text

>>55942402
it ties the whole thing together, paraphrasing since i'm a bit lazy :

before all be armed with sword and silver a shield against the snakes of government

>>55942403
iirc some people had an issue with the 'friend forever' text not fitting the feel of the design

>>55942556

Friends is now in the states. What’s a good price for cull mercury dimes?

I said to him to grab me $50 worth assuming about $2 each since some silver dragons vid a week ago said prices were about 18-20 face atm.

>>55940551
Fix the eyes and the font, and then it will be good.

>>55940551
where cop?

>>55942574
Out of curiosity which translation did you use as I'm more familiar with impius being related to wickedness, not power.

If the $ keeps rising gold and silver are both gonna tank like before

>>55942722
just google translate and some other random site.

>>55942306
what a mess! Expected in a way, 27Moz was next to nothing left in registered.

>>55941794
What is so special about the gothic crowns? Why were they out of reach of all but a fortunate few. Until now. ?

>>55942794
81% of what's left of JPM's eligible is owned by SLV.

>>55941794
Will someone explain to me how these coins were ever worth the original price? Or even worth the “50 percent off” price? They’re still more than 2x over spot

>>55939848
I always see you posting. You have the 5 and 10 oz APMEX bars right. How’d you get into investing in metals?

I bought after the price tanked in Nov/Dec 2021, crazy to think it's nearly 2 years and the amount of silver in the comex has barely moved in a meaningful way.
I expected we would have brought it down to like single digit millions by now but it's at 27mil.
And I know people are saying that's all SLV but if industrial demand is still there then why hasn't the price gone to the moon because of the massive supposed supply deficit thanks to SLV?

>>55942815
It's a proof coin with 2000 minage, that's about it. I bought some of their other coins, but I'm not interested in proof stuff.

Recently given these, passed down by a deceased relative.

>>55943023
Lucky you

mail cum

I take better pix later

>>55942856
I fell in with a bad crowd of libertarians a long time ago. They corrupted me with Von Mises. I didn't have much to invest back then. Later, when the Good Doctor Paul ran for President in 2008 I got serious about stacking, had the resources to do it, and have been at it since then.

>>55942882
Registered went down over 100 million ounces since then, wtf are you smoking?
>SLV
That's eligible.

ordered this

>>55943144
that looks really good

>>55942882
>jpm is fined a billion dollars for manipulating the comex just 3 years ago
>thinks a bunch of anons will bring down the comex
>thinks comex numbers are real
>jpm is the comex
>jpm holds the most silver in the world

When the time is right, they will make it moon.

>>55943184
Very cool coin!

>>55943201
Hard to think of any other reason they might be doing it. It isn't so they can go into the solar panel business. This might be the single most bullish fact there is for silver.

>>55943242
Follow the "money"

>>55938715
I have a cheapie on ebay of such monumental proportions that I'm scared to show it on here because I don't want to give myself bad luck.

>>55938715
>Vreneli Edition
based

>>55942815
Not sure on that, I have never seen EIC do a sale like this honestly. I always liked the Gothic Crowns and some of the others, but $99/ozt is too rich for me, but for $50, I will bite. Maybe they had a hard time selling them because of the price? I would be absolutely seething if I paid $99+/ozt and then all of a sudden they were 50% off.

>>55942850
Same reason we buy overpriced stuff from mintanon and holoanon. Its just nice to buy cool numismatic stuff once in awhile. I generally stack for weight and get generic bullion, but I do keep a small stash of fancy, overpriced numismatic proof coins. I like to keep them on display at my desk in my home office and rotate them out - keeps the lizard brain happy and looks nice. The detail and shine on these is far superior to anything out there in my opinion.

>>55940108
You really think I would let any of you touch my coins?

>>55939555
Why is that gold coin so silverish?

nice, I like it. the box actually came as a surprise too. either forgot or didnt read it in description.

>>55943144
nice!

>>55938715

>>55943511
>fraud artists
Of course this globohomo shabbo goy don't have the balls to name the jews.

Is it what they call "love at first sight" bros?
Deep down i feel like i need her.

>>55943543
It's a stunner!

>>55943270
is it this one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/204440385317

>>55943564
Isn't it? Too bad the pics are too low quality for me to read the silversmith mark properly. If it's from a reknowed craftman i could justify spending the asking price (which is far from outrageous already, it's just... i'm gigapoor rn).

If some fren have better eyes than i do..

>>55943566
"scrapchad" is only interested in gold scrap, so quite unlikely.

What do you think the price on these will go up to in a few years?

I made $11700 but spent 500 sending money to siblings, going out to dinner and a $72 sports wager that I lost. I'm sick to my stomach. I had 2 bottles of wine with fiansay

>>55943921
I made 11700 trading 0 day options and I only have 2 ounces gold and like 400 oz silver that I loaned to lochness monster. I hope I keep winning in options next wek

test

>>55943879
A lot, but the gold collection will be even more in terms of percentage.

>>55939323
I'd like to highlight this because there is a lot of truth and straightforward confrontation of the problem in this post.
If people want to measure the kind of scale we're at in terms of the ponzi economics we're running, at this point if in the 1960's 1/10 depositors running to the bank would sink this whole thing, then today the number is closer to 1/1000, at a minimum

>>55943976

>>55943578
I think it is the overall shape that appeals to me. It is tall and thin on the upper half but balanced by the swelling lower half. Almost female in symmetry. You have good taste.

>>55942856
I discovered Apmex and i never looked back. To this day I still only purchase from Apmex, the best online bullion retailer.

>>55942128
>>55943441
glad everyone is enjoying them so far!

>>55940319
I really like the coins specifically the engraving on the edge it is quite a beautiful piece.

>>55944029
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Alas, i made myself a reason, can't really afford it for the moment.
If you (or any other pmg fren for that matter) is interested, i leave you the link :
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/404449132261

Price is quite reasonable, considering it's .950 silver, probably from late XIXth century from my experience, and weights 600gr for 300€, that's 16.36€/oz of FS. Not an atrocious deal by any means.

>>55944087
thanks bot

>>55943879
they're already pretty expensive aren't they

How much Platinum have you got? It seems really undervalued right now. How much Platinum would you stack per 10oz of Gold?

>>55944627
I know what it says on Ebay but I'm not so sure how close that is to reality.

>>55944655
Check by "sold items" to have a precise idea of how much it's going for.

>>55944632
None. I'd like some, but I want to my goal weight of the big two before I start speculating that hard.

>>55944632
None, even though i myself often pose myself as a bullish herald of Pt ITT. Problem is i have PTSD from attempts at purchasing the thing on ebay the only times i tried to. Twice.
I won absurdly low auctions with zero bids but myself. I.e. at starting price, which were around $400 and 500 respectively (to attract the buyers/bidders i guess).

Ofc i never received the thing, the sellers claimed to have "lost it" or "sold it to a neighbor the day prior but forgot to cancel the announce". And i didn't even bother raging at them, i'd have done the exact same thing. Choice is easy between getting a single mediocre review or losing half a grand.
But it made me fear for the potential liquidity. It's clear that literally NOBODY is interested in acquiring plat over here at least. And for what i've checked, the stores are using it to their advantage by massacring the buyback offers.

I love Pt as a metal and potential spec, but i hate the market conditions surrounding it. Not enough liquidity. At least with Ag and Au, you know the demand is always there and always strong.

>>55944632
The main thing I don't like about platinum is to most people it will just look like silver. Gold's value is instantly recognizable to just about everyone. Not saying it's bad to have but that's something I'm paranoid about.

>>55944717
To show how illiquid it is, here are the results for all sold listing when i type "ounce platinum" on ebay.

>>55944739
>platinum once

Try again

>>55944750
kek, sorry i'm tired. 6am already here.
Just tried with "once platine (= ounce platinum)", and it indeed returned some results, but all from Germany. None from France.
Apparently it's OK to invest in Pt if you live in Deutschland.

>>55944786
I didn't realize you were in France. Still seems way over spot and not common stuff but it's there I guess.

>>55938715
Got pic related on ebay as a cheapie. It's 5 ounces. Should be in Monday. :D

>>55944823
No worries fren.
I went by "sold items" on ebay, because offers exist, but the question is : "is it selling?". Unsurprisingly Germany and US seems to be the main places where Pt is liquid.

>>55944887
From what I understand, which isn't a lot of knowledge, it seems like the US and Germany are the only "western" countries that are quietly concerned about PM's being reintroduced into the economy.

>>55944736
but it's so much harder than Silver or Gold. Jewelry of Platinum doesn't dent. It's also the least reactive metal so stores better long run.

>>55944911
I've only seen silver and gold lust in people's eyes when they hold it. I don't see that when they see platinum unless they played Tibia or something that told them it was worth more than gold

>>55944887
platinum is bought and sold in canada but there's little interest. Changs and pajeets prefer gold and whites prefer silver. I never hear about platinum and the LCS I go to that advertises platinum never has it in stock.

>>55939687
Anyone selling things on /pmg/ is a D&C shill.

>>55944944
They all seem like depressed hobbyists to me. They're just incompetent at getting to work and shipping.

>>55944908
Seems like it. Here we are too far gone, even cash is almost entirely gone now. Everybody pays with their contactless CCs. Banks and the government pretend they need to know everything about our every step to make shit more secure, but they enabled and pushed for the most insanely easy to trick payment system.
It's millions of cases of scams every year since this shit have been adopted. You have scammers going in crowded spaces like the subway or the mall, simply armed with a card reading terminal, and every CC they come close to get debited.
And they aren't too greedy, they charge like 5 bux, with a seemingly innocent/very common name, like idk "bakery of the center". People don't even notice, and even if they do, they wont bother fighting for weeks with the bank over a 5€ payback. It's too much efforts.

Being a thief never have been this easy, you simply have to walk with a tiny machine in your bag and rub elbows. Meanwhile, we aren't allowed to buy anything over 500€ in cash, because it could "finance terrorism"... Fucking joke of a (((society))).

>>55944968
I do wish I had the option not to include contactless payment on all of my cards. It's useless and I ended up using the wrong card once. That was also when I found out that my RFID blocking wallet didn't quite work...

>>55944968
>>55944985
don't carry CCs, use a digital wallet. The RFID is only on when you're phone is unlocked

>>55944985
>I do wish I had the option not to include contactless payment on all of my cards
Can't you call your bank and ask them to deactivate your contactless payment method? That's what i did (and most ppl i know who got scammed this way).

>>55944968
I work in collections and I can't tell you how many thousands of the people we contact a year just need to update their credit cards because their cards were compromised. Sometimes it will be 3-4 times a year with a customer, like it's just part of their routine to have their fucking card that stays in their purse or wallet just happens to get fraudulent charges a few times a year. Totally wild.

>>55944990
That would require everywhere to have contactless payments (they don't). I'd also have to plan my ATM visits to bring my debit card (I won't) and have all of my eggs in one basket that's already attractive to thievesand contains my entire life already. No me gusta. Fortunately, I doubt it's a huge deal in my area.

>>55944998
Now that, on the other hand, is easy and convenient. I'll get to work on that.

>>55944998
It's also very odd how banks seemed to have shut off phone notifications whenever a charge is made on your accounts the past couple years. I used to get a near instant buzz every time I swiped my card or bought something online.

>Since November 1986, Perth Mint has used more than 18 tonnes of platinum for minting. >About 85% of them were sold abroad making the Gold Corporation (owner of the Mint) one of Australia's top 30 export earners.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Platinum_Koala

So the Perth Mint primarily sells its minted Platinum abroad, and it's selling so much of it that the elevates the Mint to be one of Australia's largest exporters.

Who is buying it? If it's for use in catalytic converters I would have guessed industry would make a deal to buy bullion grade Platinum and not waste extra money on minted coins.

>>55945000
checked + yeah it's unreal. I think it's over half the ppl i know who have been fraudulently charged at least once.
Who in their right mind would agree on this payment method to be legal?? It's fucking insane. Just steal the card of anyone and you are free to empty their bank account with zero extra information required. Just bip the fucking piece of plastic anywhere you want...

Wouldn't be surprised if they use it as an excuse to push for biometric requirements next. Just as how we are now forced to use it to unlock our phones, they will ask our digits to validate a transaction.

>>55945027
They already do ask for digits to validate a transaction in the US if you're using a debit card and most people use a very easy number to figure out, like the last 4 of the phone number or social security number.

>>55945023
18T in 37 years? Literal nothingburger bro. That's 15Koz per year.. 40oz per day. For a mint like Perth, i was expecting larger figures desu.

>>55945049
sorry if it wasn't clear kek, i meant digits as in fingerprints. Yeah, 4 numbers code always was the norm here too for using your CC, until the contactless took over (still required for payments over 50€).

Is it Euro hours now? What kind of cool coins do you guys have easy access to? It took me a month to get this Soviet commie coin shipped from Ukraine and they sent over a trash coin as a bonus like I would send someone a penny with an ASE to someone over there.

>>55945060
thanks for putting some perspective on it. But then for a total nothingburger to be Australia's biggest exporter really says something about this country.

I've noticed this new USPS shipping method called "USPS Advantage". Maybe holo and mintanon used it and nothing against them for using it but the tracking on it is miserable and the shipping estimates are basically worthless. Just keep your eye out for shippers who use it.

>>55944880
is this a good deal or did I get ripped off?

>>55945212
Well... if you're looking for just the metal content, do the math.
Purity: 10/24 = 42%.
Gold spot: $2,643 Canadian.
AGW: 132.7 x .42 = 68.3g = 2.2ozt
so 2.2 x 2,643 = $4,269 Canadian.
You paid $2,240 Canadian.
Feels good?

>>55945256
feels good man. haven't had much luck the last money. the last good one on Canadian ebay was a 14k solid accutron that went for around $300 -- with around $800 worth of gold. Just as I was getting my card out somebody else bought it :(

>>55945260
*last month

>>55945260
Nicely done. One of life's little happinesses.

>>55940476
where the fuck do you oder these again? it's not bfacllc?

>>55945288
That coin is bfallc

>>55945292
Is the url still the same? I haven't seen the updates on the site for months.

>>55945311
They've just been lazy as fuck. They said the coin would ship in June. If you didn't order before then, then good luck getting one for under $100 minimum now. It's going to be one of the more rare meme coins

>>55945328
I just want to be ready for Holo's next meme coin.

>>55945354
You have to send him your energy if there's going to be another. He's been in a rough spot according to him just feeling lazy.

>>55945069
Most are still sleeping. It's just 10am here.

>>55939125
shiny

>>55945546
>buy during the dip a couple weeks ago
>already worth more than most other coins

Holding out for your favorite shinies always pays off

>>55941555
Fascinating stuff.

>>55942676
anonymintpm.com

>>55943023
Noice

>>55943456
:-)

>>55943461
The camera in the Pixel 6 pro does some AI shit. I haven't found a way to disable this. Sometimes the color is right, so i take a bunch of pics and hope that some come out ok.

>>55944029
It's the amount and attention to detail, something you rarely see these days with new stuff.

>>55944191
>considering it's .950 silver
How do you know?

>>55944717
>But it made me fear for the potential liquidity. It's clear that literally NOBODY is interested in acquiring plat over here at least. And for what i've checked, the stores are using it to their advantage by massacring the buyback offers.
That is why i go always for maximum resaleability and that lead me to 9999 gold. You got to consider the spread.
Pic are buy and sell prices for 100g platinum bars in Germany as of today. The spread of almost 30% is only 19% VAT.

>>55945069
Nice pube man.
I can send you a selection of trash pre-€ Yurop coins. If you really want it, i can make a few pics.

>>55945589
This, bought 75oz silver myself and even after shipping i'm in the green. Should be here monday and i'll annoy yous with my silver pics shortly after.

>>55943461
Picrel is the same camera, but a few days later. I wish we could just lock in all the parameters so they are always the same, but smartphones are shit that way.

>>55945069
pic related pre-cancereuro coins

>>55945665
I'll buy Soviet silver but that's pretty much the only European stuff I'm interested in other than French or Swiss coins

>>55945739
French coins are beautiful

>>55945596
>anonymintpm.com
>presale is out of stock
REEEEEEE

>>55944924
Compared to silver of gold, platinum is not spectacular to look at. But try holding it in your hand. The density is amazing.

>>55944191
Got suckered into silver pots.
Found this, thought it's a bargain, but it's only electroplated cheap shit.

>>55946154
hope someday anonymint can just have a variety of those /pmg/ coins always in stock and available.
i think the notes on his website say that's one of the goals.

>>55946208
It's a risk.
I guess the manufacturer needs a certain volume and that it's more than he is willing to risk. Obviously that also means his numbers aren't as big as they could be because he lucks out on all the impulse buy zoomers.

i got an email that my anime prospector is shipping <3

>>55944632
> How much Platinum have you got?
3300+ Ag, 116 Au, 0 Pt
Like the frog said, it's not liquid enough for me to bother. In fact, I've tried to stack the cheapest and most liquid coins possible: gold krugerrands, silver wieners and britannias. I also have a lot of noah's arks and I've no idea about their liquidity compared to the others, but they're fairly common .999 silver so it shouldn't be a big problem.
> It seems really undervalued right now.
Ditto with silver, but here you take less chances.

>>55944968
I pay with cash everything that I can, even the water bill. But I have to keep it under 150 euros (billed every 6 months) or else they want me to use different payment method.

>>55944985
Look in your online banking and there might be an option to disable the contactless payment on your card.

What's everyone having for breakfast today?
I'm having oatmeal to start with. maybe fry some taters next.

>>55942307
I KNOW WHAT I GOT.

>place ad online for sale of 1oz of platinum
>receive a few offers before the end of the week

Seems liquid enough to me

>platinum to most people it will just look like silver

Most people are brain dead npcs that took an untested jab multiple times. There are people in the know when it comes to platinum and there are people stacking and trading it daily. People act surprised when a metal more rare than gold or silver isn't at their LCS or they don't see many ads online.

>>55946391
Eh, I’m not convinced.

>>55945596
>How do you know?
large objects 950/1000 fineness "Minerve casquée"

>>55946433
You can't convince a monkey that honey is sweeter than a banana.

>>55946473
Well. I would like to say i see it, but i don't.
chin_rub.gif

>express disagreement
>get insulted

>>55946574
Is it better now?

>>55946722
Just be yourself.

>>55944672
Someone just paid almost $1400 for the exact same case and coins that I have.
Also someone paid $1100 in July, same case.

>>55946352
I'm still fasting. Stop talking about food!

>>55946352
Always fresh Pain Au Chocolates or croissants and coffee for me

>>55946723
I guess it could be ...

>>55946938
lmao

>>55940391
They've sold less hydrogen cars combined since 2016 than the US mint has sold of these fucking monstrosities.
It's all a grift since battery cars are so successful they don't even get subsidies anymore, while hydromeme does

>>55947047
I would only buy this coin, if my only intention was melting it, and then having someone try to make something beautiful out of it. Even then, I'd have to buy it at 1/10 of its value, to not feel like I was being taken advantage of.

>>55946208
>>55946216
Problem with keeping a lot of extra inventory is how much extra it costs to produce them. When you're paying $28/oz for the blanks alone then you can only afford so many extras even if I could get lucky and offer them for 5x

>>55947122
ah. yeah i figured there were good reasons.
many good reasons. not to mention that, on some level, you're competing with larger established vendors who are able to sell certain types of existing bullion/coin for comparatively way lower premiums.
so i guess it would really be taking a gamble on how many /pmg/-themed-coin enthusiasts would patronize your business and for how long.

id guess you'd be looking at an investment into the 10s of thousands of dollars? to establish a stock of coins to have to sell?

I think most of us would be able to acquire financing for such a business venture. but would it pay off. probably depends largely on who is doi8ng it and how well it is marketed and executed

>>55947047
Whats wrong with it? Is the gold dirty? Bad manufacturing? Was the girl a man previously? Has it sharp edges that pierce your skin and cause blood poisoning? Do you prefer old women?

>>55947122
What does production cost and how many are you able to order in one run?

>>55947185
I do think this is something that will be able to go on for a long time, especially once I get my shit together and stop dragging ass. There's a lot of ideas for what we can do, and I'd also want to start a separate business that is more marketable to the general public to make designs for non-anons
>>55947214
Manufacturing costs can be an additional $10-30 each depending on how many features it has, then there are costs for the dies. Usually I order enough to make it a roundish number with enough to offer some for sale and keep some for myself and a collected edition

>>55946154
if the art isn't settled on, why not reopen preorders up for a little while?

>>55947227
i have been very interested and happy to see your achievements and successes and the community support for it here. a mutual shared hobby interest being realized.
it all activates my imagination on what similar things you could do to grow or branch off of what you have done so far.

maybe this is a naive though i have. but i cant help thinking one could buy a heavy duty machine press of some kind, and stamp/mint/press your own coins. even if it is crude and mostly manually operated by hand. if it could remove $30 worth of cost per coin by having them minted by an outside source, it could pay off.

>>55947259
related discussion on a machinist forum
https://www.practicalmachinist.com/forum/threads/minting-press-tonnage-calculation-question.248083/

>>55947259
I would assume the most important part would be the stamp itself. These are probably hard to manufacture.

>>55947259
The press is only one part of it, the die making and engraving process would be the hardest part to replicate and I don't know what I don't know about the difficulties involved with it. Sure eventually you could get costs down by bringing that all in house, but that would also mean a facility and overhead. Maybe I can leverage this in to a nice house with a workshop.

What I'd really like to do is go a completely different route if we're doing our own press, and that would be to replicate a historical screw driven one that was driven by two people. Make it a nonprofit historical educational thing

>>55947214
>what's wrong with it

>>55947273
>>55947277
my idea would be to go ahead and continue to have the dies manufactured/provided by an outside, professional source. and just use them for our own home-press operation

yes there are other ways to press/mint coins.
ancient times didn't have 320 ton hydraulic presses. some used a hammer-fall method.
others used the screw type press?

>>55947280
Say it. Just say it. (-:<

>>55947308
Makes sense.
This is what i have found on making the stamps. Cool shit, needs a bit of skill and you have to be a bit of an artist.
https://www.shirepost.com/blogs/news/how-a-fantasy-coin-is-made

>>55947047
personally I found the 2019 coin as funny as this one with its large headdress

>>55947047
So developing a new technology is a grift? Toyota hardly needs to engage in scams to make money, but they are heavily into hydrogen cars. And, by the way, battery cars started out as a meme too, remember? I do. And they are still outnumbered on the road ten to one or more.

But time will tell. I'm not emotionally engaged in the debate one way or the other.

>>55947047
>It's all a grift since battery cars are so successful they don't even get subsidies anymore, while hydromeme does
I can tell you are republican by not thinking. You have not thought about trucks, ships or planes, that don't have the option to run on batteries.
A hydrogen tank can allow you to bring lemons from Cosenza, Sicily to Hammerfest, Norway in one go.
Regular cars are fine with a range of less than 200km. Trucks, trains, ships, planes and buses aren't.
And i didn't even mention the chemical industry that needs a replacement for natgas. Or the metal industry that needs a replacement for coal.

>>55947597
>>55947452

>>55947259
god we want to set up space for a press so bad

>>55947626
they look even better in person than i was expecting. holo did a good job on these.

>>55947214
Planet of the Apes was not my favorite movie series, truth be told.

>>55947631
Case in point. Republicans don't think. They confuse feeling with thinking all the time.
The current price for 100km hydrogen in the EU is 10€. 300miles are a bit less than 500km, so we have below 50€ for 300m. That is barely more than E10/95oct.

And that is without scale.

>>55947728
>Case in point. Republicans don't think. They confuse feeling with thinking all the time.
Every faction has fringe section of people, even us here with our tiny precious metals culture have people going overboard. Just a fact of life.

>>55947777
there is nothing fringe about stack guardians.
its an important part to the operation of every stackers storage facility

>>55947777
Holy chekked

>>55947728
100km in a battery car will cost less than €5 kek

>>55947597

The lack of paid IQDELET shills in this thread combined with the recent pump this week is extremely concerning to me.
I feel as if the bullion banks are going to long silver very soon. It would be stupid of them not to. There's already evidence of banks cashing in their short positions. We won't win until they get the cake first, then we will get our slice and eat it.

>>55947841
Once again it is proven that republicans can't think, only feel, so they confuse one with the other.
How much will a battery cost that drives a truck from Cosenza, Sicily to Hammerfest, Norway in one go?

Once again you can't comprehend what scale means. It means: either it gets pricey (a battery with such a large capacity costs a lot more than a battery in a car we have today) or things get cheaper (once hydrogen is produced at large scale the prices per kg will fall sharply).
Today 100km driving costs 5€ with electricity, 10€ with hydrogen. How much will it be in 30 years when hydrocarbon cars don't get produced nor sold? When trucks, trains, ships and planes use hydrogen? When the infrastructure is build and amortized?

Think, McFly. Think.

>>55947885
Granted, that works in dense areas and is probably cheaper than hydrogen, even at scale.

>>55947777
checked
where's "I'm just here to stack"?

>>55947888
>There's already evidence of banks cashing in their short positions
News to me, is this happening in large quantities?

>>55947631
Light duty(the cars basically) has always been a joke desu, med duty(buses/trucks) is where it shines.
>9.95/kg
It was $16/kg in 2019. I was talking to a friend recently and I guess its up to $30/kg here in CA but everything is fucking expensive here.
>300 miles
More like 230-250 sadly.

I did the calculation when I had a mirai and it was cheaper to drive my f450. But this goes back to what I said about technology, the light duty vehicles were designed as h2 vehicles first and foremost and they should have been designed as ev's with range extensors.

>>55947888
Just cool it with the antisemetic digits

i don't understand longs and shorts. I've probably missed out on so many money making opportunities because of my ignorance.
feels bad

>>55947905
>>55947985
Basically this guy goes full unfiltered schizo and reveals how it's all going to play out.
Both part 1 and part 2 are fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-uG5sovDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7lXJtgvwsg

First memecoin arrived

Let the record show I ordered this after I ordered a crusader apu, yet this arrived first.

Mintanon I have high expectations, plz no rug

>>55948045
thanks anon.
watching these now

>>55938715
>he doesnt stack dinos
ngmi

>>55948070
>Let the record show I ordered this after I ordered a crusader apu, yet this arrived first.
yeah they got a lot better, the yotsuba seemed to take 5ever

NEW
>>55948152
>>55948152
>>55948152

Baked a new thread:
>>55948157
>>55948157
>>55948157

FUUUUUCK AAAAAHHHHH

>>55948173

>>55948173
>>55948189
I deleted the 2nd one once it let me.

>>55947428
She should get her thyroid checked. Her eyes are not normal.

>>55944097
I should have bought five guided ones. I'd have loved to get the first five serials

>>55948139
I'm disappointed I missed the other coins. These are great!