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>>55853623

why are the threads dying so fast?
its the perfect time to buy

>>55870178
Cheapies time

>>55870131
Monero is the real Bitcoin!

>>55870131
>Cum to Monerochan Cunny

>>55870178
I bought some more at these levels. In an absolute sea of shitcoins, you can look at monero dev work for guidance. Patience is key
https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8922

>>55870131
I started buying. Price is still below 2007 high. Got 40k CA$ cash remaining

>>55870952
Been out of crypto for solid 5 years now since I sold during 2017 bull run

Mostly invested in stocks are after

>>55870131
buying more

>>55870131
so whats the status on eth <> xmr atomic swaps?

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we're just gettin buried by pink posts, huh?

IMPREGNATE MONEROCHAN AND MAKE AN UNKNOWN NUMBER OF BABIES!!!!

What happened to the new hardware wallet/air gapped android wallet project?

How would you feel about a website like purse[dot]io and proxysto[dot]re combined?
What are some important/useful features that these two lack? What would you improve?

>>55872829
the first one is shutting down

>>55870802
What's the advantage of C++17?

>>55873895
required by qt for monero-gui

>>55870131
Any price prediction for Monero?

>>55871360
>so whats the status on eth <> xmr atomic swaps?
Operational but not deployed on main release until further testing.

>>55873895
Yea some obvious benefits of course, but the point is it’s great to see monero devs doing their due diligence and have so much process in place to ensure the change would go smoothly. We got some fantastic dev’s for some reason who are actively fulfilling Satoshi’s vision.

>>55873910
we gonna win

>Why Monero will beat Bitcoin

https://youtu.be/lm7jlc5EvjY

>>55870131
>you just know

>>55873912
whats the liquidity like?

>>55876069
To my knowledge it's zero right now until it gets rubber stamped for safety.

>>55876435
2 more years. :(

>>55876015
i like monero and mined on a 3900x for 1 whole year after randomx algo change.

>muh bitcoin is not private
you are so fucking wrong.
- mined virgin coins are private
- non kyc atm coins are private
- atomic swap coins are private
- coinjoin coins are private

When you look at the XMR chart you can really tell that it's the only crypto that's actually being used.

>>55876572
Hurrrr durrrrrrrrrrr my public blockchain isn’t easily traced GOD you are such a fucking dumb nigger I hate retards like you even though I hold some BTC just fucking die go get a vaxx you fucking brain dead fucking NPC

https://www.theblock.co/amp/post/135148/a-look-at-chainalysis-claim-to-track-bitcoin-through-mixing-service-coinjoin

>>55876572
no, they aren't, fag

>>55876572
>- mined virgin coins are private
>- non kyc atm coins are private
>- atomic swap coins are private
>- coinjoin coins are private

Yes. Now plz go convince the esteemed OPSEC gurus on the darknet.

>>55876612
Which is why it's losing to eth ponzi.
Holy shit the cope in these threads.

>>55872803

>>55873910
1 xmr = 1 xmr.

>>55877554
https://youtu.be/a8MZBUoQt68

how many darknet markets is eth used on

one of the things I love most about life is that truth always wins

>>55877554
>losing to eth ponzi.
>Holy shit the cope in these threads.

oh look, another moonfag that doesn't get what this is actually all about.

Go buy a dog meme and relish the "profits"

>>55870131
wownero

>>55877554
>Losing to eth

HAHAHA

>>55878206
I think its cute that supporters of other chains think monero is in any way attempting to compete with them.

Completely different use-case, vastly different "culture" among the holders and the understanding that monero isn't magic free money nor should it be.

do other coin holders actually think this is a race or is it just shitposting?

>>55878817
>do other coin holders actually think this is a race or is it just shitposting?
The only reason they're in crypto is to exchange it for more fiat than they put in to begin with. It's a more volatile stock and nothing else, and the idea that you could use the cryptocurrency as, you know, a currency that serves as a medium of exchange, never crosses their minds

>>55878192
Witnessed purple.

>>55879118
I figured as much but i wanted to pretend at least some of it was shitposting.

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT!

>>55879705
yesterdays dump?

I was wondering the same, something about more rate hikes maybe?

Is the flippening happening? Where monero starts trending against btc while btc trends against the USD both upwards? I’ve seen it, man. Monero chart getting tired of being dragged down by wider crypto shenanigans it looks like

>>55881346
There never will be one and that's perfectly fine. Bitcoin is the bedrock of everything, it'll chug along and keep taking the limelight, leaving projects like Monero free to get on relatively unnoticed. They're both good.

>>55881387
>Bitcoin is the bedrock of everything, it'll chug along

lol on the strength of what exactly? It keeps losing ground to Monero in real-world market utilization and is basically being propped up by orchestrated price manipulation.

reporting in

We got LUIGI as a core dev. Luigi is on fire right now

>>55881519

What a bro.

It ain't over yet! I'm loading in the guns! Monero locked n loaded!

>>55881387
Monero might take it all and it would make Banks, VCs and Corporates look ike retards again.

Remember after 2013? Financial institutions tried to jump on the blockchain bandwagon, but their attempts barely made a blip during the 2017/18 bull run. They once said, "Bitcoin is just a proof of blockchain. We'll create our private chains." Clearly, they missed the essence of crypto: a decentralized anti-regulation tool designed for folks with inherent mistrust.

By 2020/21, these institutions ditched their custom solutions and started supporting pre-existing blockchains. Venture capitalists doubled down, pouring funds into start-ups under the guise of decentralized blockchain and Web3 projects.

Imagine the irony if the market champions Monero - the one crypto they least believed in and invested the least in.

>>55881503
what are these pajeets doing

loaded those moneros

>Monero why North Korea is obsessed with it

https://youtu.be/WP7v9HdUceY

>>55881503
>>55882886
Think of it in terms of traditional finance, like stocks and bonds. Bonds are boring as shit, they don't do anything, they have no real-world utility, all the wealth creation and advancement comes from companies making things and innovating. Yet the bond market is many times larger than that of stocks, because people need something boring and "useless" to park their money in and always will.
And you don't want Monero taking that place in the center spotlight anyways, where every bank, exchange, politician, and lawyer are fighting to make sure Monero is the bedrock of the system, is regulatory compliant, and view keys are provided for every transaction. Because that's not what Monero is best at. Bitcoin and Monero are two different tools for different things.

>>55876612
Based Chad. It has always been my favourite when it comes to decentralized security in the crypto space and I'm seeing Sylo doing good as well when it comes to decentralized communication and privacy protocol.

bros my transaction hasn't moved at all in like an hour wtf

>>55883240
so basically monero is a semistablecoin with no hope of ever gaining price (no moon mission shit I mean like bitcoin's history) that is only used to trade/buy and the moment it becomes traceable we're left with nothing

>>55883388
nvm it finally went through

>>55870131
By how much a margin of an advantage would you guys say that XMR’s anonymity gives to reducing the risk of my assets being stolen?

>>55883411
Yeah this the only FUD.
> Nooo it can be traced its a honeypot even
> No, okay the tech is great!!!
> No it can't scale
> No yeah it can scale better than Bitcoin with similar security
> It's not decentrali... no yeah its massively decentralized at all levels.
> Okay but it's for private transactions, specific use case, even though it can store wealth perfectly, like a vault, secure, private
OKAY THE COIN IS PERFECT AND IS THE BEST A DECENTRALIZED CAN OFFER, STABILITY OVER CENTURIES

BUT IT WILL NEVER PUMP FOR SOME REASON

>>55883675
no one can bruteforce your private key if they don't even know your public key.
So there, Quantum will pose a different type of threat

>>55883021
>Due to Bitcoin open-source nature, it's actually relatively easy to track transaction back to their source

Thank you, I stopped here.

>>55883886
yea I really don't get it honestly

>>55882936
their best

Why Monero over eg. Swap?

>>55884517
Why a decentralized secure system over a ... centralized, unsafe bridge? In the very long run? It's like asking why use hard currency instead of using food coupons and hoping it still works your entire life

That's what I thought. The king is still XMR, so fucking comfy

Monero is the anti tech coin so of course the entirety of every big tech programmer fintech bank government lawyer system hates this coin. Hell, just think how much better our lives would be without fintech laws insurance regulations. Just look at stinkie linkies xrpissers and bitshitters. "ooh its never gonna moon" "oh XYZ inflation bug" "oh its not a global reserve currency replacement". "They", the altcoiner, the bitcoinshitter, the "defi" shitter are all the same bag of shit. Just imagine how much better our lives would be when all the banks go poof and we don't have a need for "smart oracles". Its always us vs them, go spit on a stinkie linkie and make them think your a bulgarian or insult xrp weirdos in their containment thread fintech slaves just make our lives worse and deserve to lose everything.

>>55883886
>>55883987
I never said it wouldn't take off, it's usually other people ITT saying moonboys should fuck off and it's made to be used, not an investment. All I said was that it wouldn't flip Bitcoin.

>>55870131
dis femoid is drawing monerochans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOD-4Jdtj5k

>>55881507
Have you mined for 6 years straight?

>>55884785
Based former linker here I saw the light.

>>55883240
>Think of it in terms of traditional finance, like stocks and bonds. Bonds are boring as shit, they don't do anything, they have no real-world utility, all the wealth creation and advancement comes from companies making things and innovating. Yet the bond market is many times larger than that of stocks, because people need something boring and "useless" to park their money in and always will.

Bonds are typically issued by the State and returns are therefore guaranteed. BTC is not a bond backed by the State and returns are never guaranteed, virtually all its value these days is derived from the speculative mania being driven by fraudulent trading.

Holding BTC is therefore a gamble that speculative mania can be sustained indefinitely, which has never happened before in recorded human history.

>>55883886
>BUT IT WILL NEVER PUMP FOR SOME REASON

Monero pumps in slow motion.

>>55885100
>it's made to be used, not an investment. All I said was that it wouldn't flip Bitcoin.

Its not so much that Monero will flip Bitcoin, its that Bitcoin will crash below Monero once enough people realize how useless and fraud-ridden it actually is.

>>55885454
Not sure exactly how long. Probably around 4 years.

>>55885715
what's your initial hardware investment cost? 11 XMR in 4 years? not too shabby

Are you solo?

>>55885556
I just think that trying to make one of the main Monero narratives "Bitcoin will go to zero" and giving it rent-free residence is a bad move, since if it doesn't go to zero, that just makes Monero look stupid by proxy. Monero is great all on its own, it doesn't have to waste time over the price of Bitcoin.


>>55885516
The returns on bonds usually aren't even enough to keep up with inflation, but that problem is fixed with a fixed supply, so you no longer need a guarantee of returns from the state. Plus a lot of their appeal was (though no longer) in being seen as a boring risk-free asset you could leverage the shit out of, trade liabilities (deposits) for, use as collateral. They don't have to be good for anything else, same as gold doesn't have to do anything special besides exist, so long as people use it as a parking lot for money.

>>55885303
Why?

>>55885780
I'm the guy who mines at work with work computers
Power is included in our lease so that's free
The computers were just our old fleet of workstations, mostly i7 4770, but I also have a few servers in the mix... systems I had long before I started mining.
So I didn't really invest anything other than a little time.

>>55886449
nice.

Are Zk-proofs in other blockchains an alternative to monero or are they a failure from the start

Because i have to be honest this are the bullish scenarios if all the conditions are correct


>bitcoin fails to gain privacy at the first basic blockchain level

Layer 2 in bitcoin feels like shit

>whatever privacy attempts of other blockchains don't work

I would like to know why monero privacy is simply superior to other blockchains in the long term

> seraphis development

I don't get the full details but if basically this makes monero a full proof normie experience basically makes it really good at the experience level monero will shine

>tari
A monero sidechain dedicated to nfts means anyone can put their degenerate ticket sales, private art i suppose and even smart contracts on this sidechain giving monero the same utility as other blockchains the key diference monero is actually usefull because its anonimous.

Basically if all the conditions are met that other chains can't recreate like monero privacy (plz someone argue to me why bitcoin can't simply have better privacy is it a code problem or a community problem??) and monero also gains the full normie degenerate experience (better ux design because seraphis and tari for gamblers and criminals wanting i don't know putting nfts as stocks for their druglord companys) then i think its inevitable monero will outcompete any other blockchain in the long term or heck the middle term.

>>55886826
>Are Zk-proofs in other blockchains an alternative to monero or are they a failure from the start
zk-proofs aren't bad as much as they are unproven, and using cryptographic algorithms you don't know for sure are solid is a recipe for disaster in any scenario where you need them to Just Work
>Layer 2 in bitcoin feels like shit
Probably because it is
>I would like to know why monero privacy is simply superior to other blockchains in the long term
Proof's in the pudding. Go to any darknet market and ask them how you can pay for their goods/services
>plz someone argue to me why bitcoin can't simply have better privacy is it a code problem or a community problem??
RTFM but the short version is that bitcoin's ledger is completely public. If you have someone's wallet address you can know precisely who've they transacted with, when, and how much btc was exchanged each time. This is not something that can be fixed with a layer on top. XMR's ledger is private to the point that addresses and amounts don't appear even in an encrypted form so getting someone's wallet address is useless unless they also choose to give you a view key to see certain transactions

Can I buy Monero without needing a account on any playform? I'm trying to reduce all fingerprints possible

>>55887558
kycnot.me

Reminder that moonfags get the rope.

>>55889100
I'm starting to think the people that say this are just drug addicts with no monero cause they keep spending it to buy drugs

>>55873895
more bloat. c++ is fucking retarded but the only other option is rust so people keep using cepples lol.

>Introducing Neveko: https://github.com/creating2morrow/neveko
>full-stack privacy application with gpg messaging, monero multisig and built-in i2p marketplace
>Still a work in progress, and pretty much an alpha. But run it, and give feedback, file issues---very much appreciated.
>Monero + I2P = ( THE FINAL SOLUTION to the taxman question )

Unfathomably based and agoristpilled. Kudos for going with I2P instead of Tor, this is the way.

Post a reminder in every General, this is exactly the kind of thing the circular Monero economy needs.

just did my first peer to peer trade. goddamn that shit is nerve racking. How do you do it?

>>55891550
does local buy/sell mean there are there people that do this in person? that's nuts

>>55891550
what went wrong

>>55891577
no it went fine, it just took some minutes to update on feather wallet and I was frantically googling everything that I might have fucked up. just stressful

>>55891586
Yeah I did one of the first atomic swaps and it was pretty janky. Had to find the temporary wallet file and move coins around manually at the last stage.

>>55891586
I have been waiting for like 20 hours now...
Still not seeing anything in my wallet.
Did I just get scammed?
I went through local monero.
I've never had a problem there in the past. . .

>>55891647
how does the security even work there? can they just leave you hanging and your wost recourse is leaving a bad review?

>>55891752
Yeah that's pretty much it.
Pretty sure I just got fucked.

Is kraken a decent exchange?
I've only ever used p2p transfers before.

>>55891786
Anon I realize you are stressed given your situation, just take a deep breath and collect yourself. You have recourse.

https://localmonero.co/faq#protection

>>55885807
the outcome has already been determined

cause and effect exists, your bitshit is going to 0 and you will suffer immense pain

https://youtu.be/F5CQR4bphGc?t=40

>>55891647
you're not explaining anything properly. are you saying that you got scammed by localmonero when withdrawing from the website or the seller? because if it's the seller, the coins are in escrow and you can get localmonero to release them assuming you can prove you sent the money.

>>55870131
Any company / service provider doing small XMR merchant interface with zero conf system + monthly insurance to pay (to offset volatility and failed txs)?
This could be used by many fast foods, dealers, locals, etc.

If not, then why doesn't it exist yet?

>>55891550
can you and others describe how it went? socially, technically? what place for the meetup? I think it can be nice and informative

>>55884775
devs dumped on you. how is this coin comfy

>>55892854
p2p =/= in-person

on localmonero they call in-person trades "local" trades.

>>55892875
I see. Anyone ever did some in-person trades?
>t. buys everything on Kraken and Binance, does not care about KYC

>>55892869
>devs dumped on you.

how do retards like you even manage to post?

>how is this coin comfy

Its on the cocaine standard

>>55891558
>>55892854
>>55892875
>you turn up with the money
>other guy turns up with a knife
>pleasure doing business Sir

>>55892984
what if in public place?

>>55893242
then you get followed when you leave

>>55892984
Yeah, uhh, im not so sure that the people selling monero (a niche digital currency loved by nerds and hackers) in person would also be the same people who would commit armed robbery. Like yeah i get it haha spoopy deep web hackerman criminal story and all, but it's probably some turbo nerd with a sysadmin/programming job, mortgage and shit to lose who's selling monero in person.

>>55892984
>>55893502
>meet at the bank
>do trade
>deposit money right away
safer way has never been invented

How do I get a job if I'm 33 and have no work experience? I just like to fuck around with programming, I'm making my own lang, but I have zero social skills. It's so over for me. It's like I'm the only retard in this situation.

>>55894097
>get stopped
>so what is this for
>uhhmmm ehhhh uhhh
>oh tax evading? alright follow me
>5 thousand years in prison
>please make sure to leave good review on localmonero sir

>>55892839
the dollar is currently more convenient, part of the same reasons it is so convenient (infinite printing and insurance of deposits from banks) is part of why it will fail

money is supposed to be worth something and can't be just snapped into thin air when it gets stolen by printing new supply to insure investors, if you lose your account it's gone, if a scammer takes your dollars out of your account the bank will reimburse you

if your bank collapses the government will reimburse you up to a certain amount

this is only possible with monopoly money

the worse the dollar gets the more prominent metals and monero will be

>>55894099
drive for uber

>>55874637
>some obvious benefits of course
Such as?

>>55894290
Don't know how to drive, besides I know computers too well too dismiss that knowledge.

>>55894356
get some certs then for computer repair

>>55894356
Kys

It's finally up!

https://redcircle.com/shows/CaptainBlackbeard

>>55895552
I'd rather Kys you.

>>55894099
Anon I got my first job at 29, also fucking around programming but no formal experience or education and zero social skills.

I figured out something that works amazingly: Just fucking lie. I LIED about my previous work experience saying I did freelance programming. I got a role as an intermediary software engineer working in a language I never worked in before so I got to make excuses that I just made mistakes because I didn't know the language and stack instead of me just not being a software engineer at all (lol).

I've since been promoted to senior engineer. Just so you know most of my experience before this was just C hobby projects, some linux autism and the like.

You also have to realize just how retarded the average person is. I'm probably still the smartest engineer in the company despite me being some 4chan autist that was a NEET until 29.

The biggest barrier stopping you from employment is that you THINK you know nothing and everyone else is competent, while in reality no one knows what the fuck they're doing. Not the CEO, not the managers/product owners, Not the engineers. Everyone is just winging it and straight up lying, so do the same and grab those bags.

>>55898063
That's inspirational. It's not the first time somebody suggested me to lie, but I don't have the guts/skills to do it. It is not just one lie, but I'd need to create a new persona about me. And while I've been doing many things, my main focus was videogames, so lying for a normal job would be harder.
>I'm probably still the smartest engineer in the company despite me being some 4chan autist that was a NEET until 29.
That's not hard to believe, doing what you like on your own free time will yield better results than doing because of money. Still, If I were told to show my previous work, I would hesitate to show my clumsy zelda clones.

>>55898126
Anon, just start today. My only regret is that I didn't start lying earlier. Apply to 20 job openings today. Straight up LIE in your resume about experience (not education, they can check that). If they ask to show previous work (they never asked me) then just show the "shitty/clumsy zelda clone", no one cares. The person hiring you doesn't know enough to look critically at it. The senior engineer checking the code doesn't care at all and will just look at it to see if it's actually code.

No one cares, trust me. You have nothing to lose here. I'm not trying to be inspirational, i'm not LARPing and I'm not some weird exception. Just start applying already. Will take some interview rounds but just grind through them. I guarantee you will have a job in September if you start applying today.

>>55898236
I don't know how to lie, simple as. I can't improvise for the life of me, I don't know how you did it but it wouldn't me possible for me to lie about where did I work, what projects I participated in, what technology I used, what problems I encounter, what do I think about my previous partners, and then repeating these lies in small talks with my new partners. I don't know how people do it, it looks ridiculous.

>>55898316
Do you know how to shitpost or impersonate someone on 4chan for (You)s? It's literally like that. If you're a 4chan regular you should know exactly how it works. Pretend you're baiting them by playing up a persona.

Also these people don't care about anything at all they're just doing their job for the money. They have a checklist they go through, they don't give a single fuck it's not like they are going to scrutinize you. Like I said, no one knows what they are doing, and no one cares. Everyone is just there for the paycheck.

>>55898402
Yes, but one thing is shitposting whenever you feel like it, when opportunity arises, another entirely thing is to pretend to be another person with consistency and be able to improvise. I think people figured you out but never told you out of politeness. I'm just to prude to act like that, I wouldn't be able to react once inevitably I'm caught lying.

>>55898063
>The biggest barrier stopping you from employment is that you THINK you know nothing and everyone else is competent, while in reality no one knows what the fuck they're doing. Not the CEO, not the managers/product owners, Not the engineers. Everyone is just winging it and straight up lying, so do the same and grab those bags.

Monero chads
does converting Bitcoin to Monero completely anonymizes it?
1. anon has few BTC
2. anon sells the BTC for XMR
3. anon sends the XMR to an exchange
4. anon sells the XMR for USD
5. anon transfers the USD to his bank account
is there a way anon can be tracked to his original BTC from point 5?
yes that looks like money laundering or whatever but I'm just curious about the process

>>55899848

Swapping a specific amount of BTC into an equivalent amount of XMR and then *immediately* depositing it onto a CEX leaves you vulnerable to a correlation attack.

>>55899986
understood. that seems highly unlikely for most use case then.
apart from that, nothing else obvious in my example that could compromise our anon?

where can i buy crypto without having to add a fucking passport, just want to buy some nudes dammit

>>55900136
Anon what kind of nudes are you intending to buy that requires a purchase in monero?

>>55892984
You run the same risk selling something in person on craigslist. That's why meeting in public is the standard. Your probably not going to get robbed in the middle of a populated coffee shop. If you have a ccw to bring with you then even better.

>>55899848
If I put 20$ in my hand, circle it around my head 3 times than change it to the other hand behind my back and then present you with 20$ from my other hand you wouldn't be confused as to where I got those 20$ from.
Neither would the IRS

>>55899848
You dun goog'd at step 4. As soon as you swap out of XMR your back on government's radar. You're better off just keeping your money in XMR and spending as you need.

>>55899848
ESL aside, it depends on how. With what you described? Fuck no. Skipping the exchange step and just using the XMR as a currency? Probably

>>55894099
my story: i like to fuck around with Linux and BSDs administration. Was searching for my first junior sysadmin job, after 2 months i decided to apply for internships too since i couldn't get anything at all.
Ended up getting the internship, two years later i've become the chief sysadmin after the previous one resigned.
Sometimes you just need a stroke of luck, but that won't happen if you won't even give it a try. Start applying for jobs and don't give up.

Also disregard >>55898063, don't lie, rather be humble and genuine, but show interest for gaining knowledge and improving your skills, employers are looking for cooperative people. I didn't have experience with anything in the software stack the company was using, but they chose me because they saw i was cooperative and that i could learn all of that in the first month or so.
>People think that a liar gains a victory over his victim. What I’ve learned is that a lie is an act of self-abdication, because one surrenders one’s reality to the person to whom one lies, making that person one’s master, condemning oneself from then on to faking the sort of reality that person’s view requires to be faked…The man who lies to the world, is the world’s slave from then on…There are no white lies, there is only the blackest of destruction, and a white lie is the blackest of all.

>>55900628
Thanks anon, I just think it's too late for me. I think i will need to lay in some ways, in order to get accepted, I just don't know how.

And btw how come the general is on life support now? I use to browse it last year and it was alive.

>>55902123
its over

>>55902161
tl:dr;?

>>55902177
>tl:dr;?

>>55902123
I mean, monero is fairly niche and crypto has been in nuclear winter for like 2 years and running with no real uptrend in sight so ig it makes sense.

>>55902123
These generals are usually great, lots of high IQ discussion, but lately it's the same two guys with the same posts over and over, shitting on/scaring off on any price discussion, and a fixation on all other coins going to zero, rather than a focus on Monero.

>>55902402
I thought we hold it to use as currency not in anticipation of uptrends

>>55870131
I've decided to convert most of my savings to the USD (more stable than my country's fiat), but I also buy some crypto with the rest of them. Monero looks like the best option available. Any advice? I've created a wallet using the official GUI client, and I'd probably use some non-KYC platform to buy crypto because I'm not giving my personal info to jews and chinks.

>>55902535
If someone doesn't expect returns on their holdings, then there's not much point in holding it, other than what's needed for daily expenses.

>>55902414
>shitting on/scaring off on any price discussion

Good. Price discussion is futile since everything is so manipulated and it inevitably leads to moonfagging, which in turn results in a retarded HODL culture that disincentivizes spending. Its what ruined BTC, we don't need that shit here.

MoneroChads stay focused on the tech and economics.

>>55902611
See this is the problem, any time someone wants to talk about the price you immediately derail the conversation and scare them off. Not everyone's in it for /pol/ tier doomerism.

>>55902627

And the results speak for themselves: comfiest General on /biz/.

>>55902663
>comfiest general
It's mostly just you talking to yourself, switching IDs, and bumping your own thread.

>>55902672

A slow thread is better than one filled with mouth breathers inquiring about the lunar cycle.

>>55902123
There are maybe 10 different "allowed" topics to discuss.
Rest will either get you called all sort of things, not to mention like third of people in these threads have serious reading comprehension issues and no matter what you reply with they will try to skew the conversation to the usual rails where there are the same arguments made over and over again, with the same usually some pseudo high IQ smug reply pictures, so there really isn't any point in posting.
Prime example is this guy >>55902663.

Once in a blue moon there is some interesting poster that actually knows his shit.

>>55902706
Honestly, the biggest mouthbreather here is you. And like anyone at the peak of Mt. Stupid you're overly hostile about it.

>>55902968

lol just use the relevant containment board on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/xmrtrader/

Nothing BUT price talk!

>>55903036
Enjoy your Dunning-Krugerrands then.

>>55902123
Not a lot of action going on other than crabs and dumps. I'm mostly here to catch any news that may pop up but for the most part its been slow. It'd be nice to have some new markets open up. The loss of Cake Wallet's in-app gift card function was a pretty big blow for me since I used it frequently. I know there is Coincards but they aren't as good, imo. Crypto in general is trending with the economy which is recession bound. I hold and stack monero mostly out of spite because our governments and greedy corporations are fucking us every chance they get and it's only getting worse. Dark times ahead. God speed to my fellow XMR bros. May you all be blessed with family, freedom, and prosperity.

>>55902535
Yeah that's why WE are here but the absolute state of crypto is also why the generals are a ghost town. Because most people want a return in fiat. Sad but true.

>>55903704

#KeepinItReal

>>55891558
>>55892875
>>55892984
>>55899848
What’s the safest amount of monero you can sell without the feds jumping on your tail on local monero and is cash by mail safe ?

How do we expand this community what niche outside of darkweb markets would monero gain traction

>>55881346
>>55881387
It's going to happen.

>>55906004
online game accounts trading, huge market, everyone uses paypal and eventually gets locked

>>55900628
wait.. is that cat real?

>>55906004
It's happening if you look around. How many gambling sites are there now? Try to enumerate them and it's a surprising amount if you look everywhere. And it's definitely more than just 1-2 years ago. The same goes for grey-market activities. Monero is slowly catching on other miscellaneous markets where private, digital cash works better than paypal/BTC. And as restrictions, KYC, and deplatforming get worse with online payment providers, more will be inclined to use the next best option: Monero. You see this with the recent push from sensible BTC "maxis" towards XMR. That is no accident, a good currency creates its own uses.
>>55902611
>economics
I think you are ignorant of that. Holding is a natural prerequisite to spending. In fact, every unit of a currency (including Monero) is being held by someone at all times. That is how medium of exchanges work. People want to get from commodity/service A to commodity/service B without a direct barter, thus they use a common medium for the exchange. This is not to imply that a "HODL forever" mentality is healthy, it is the opposite. But savings (which is to refrain from spending from a time to increase purchasing power later) do play an important part in the study of economics.
Furthermore, dismissing price when manipulated is just dishonest. If something is manipulated you can still study the price from the underlying actual supply and demand and even draw more complex conclusions than otherwise. We do this all the time as there are barely any markets for which there is no government intervention causing price distortion. Encouraging or disparaging industry, price distortions are everywhere in the economy.
Yet that does not impede our ability to analyze properly. It might impede business calculation resulting in misallocated resources, but the overall discussion can go on.
>>55902741
The loudest voices naturally drown out more reasonable ones. Just look at /pol/, and the IQ ain't too high.

>>55907244
what gambling sites allow monero? is there any poker site that does?

any sites for renting a dedicated phone number for receiving SMS that accept XMR?
Juicysms works, but it can't guarantee that the number will be available in the future.
I had a site that required me to re-authenticate with SMS, but i couldn't do it since i couldn't use the same number on juicy anymore.

>>55907365
https://www.monerogambler.com/
https://monerica.com/#gambling
there is also the monero poker club that occasionally bobs its head in this thread. It was on Sundays iirc, but don't quote me on that.

>>55907960
>monero poker club
I asked some time ago about it and got no replies
I guess it's dead

>>55905765
If you encrypt your comms, an unknown amount. I know a guy that did a large trade by the book and it went through. New user and everything, he did have to entice someone by trading at a small loss.
>>55906004
I know a guy that offers discounts for his services if payment is in bullion or XMR only.

hello good sirs
HOW THE FUCK should i configure monerod for it to connect to a remote node?
--rpc-bind-ip <ip of a remote node> --rpc-bind-port <port> --confirm-external-bind does not work: it says "Failed to bind IPv4 (set to required)"
I've searched the whole internet but couldn't find a solution. Please save me.

>>55908610
forgot to post a completely unrelated gif

>>55908610
>>55908631
i don't think you need monerod at all if you only want to use remote node RPC without storing the blockchain. As far as i can tell the daemon is only for synchronizing the blockchain locally and providing RPC for it, it can't function as a RPC proxy. --rpc-bind-ip is the flag for listening for remote connections, not for connecting to remote nodes.
Instead you should use that remote node directly in the tool you want to use, example: monero-wallet-cli --daemon-address <ip of a remote node>:<port>.
Or add a remote node through GUI in monero-wallet-gui

>>55909498
GOD BLESS.

>>55870569

>>55908610
>>55908631
Lmfao lol even
>>55909498
From a certain point of view this is completely intelligible. Is this minor slight barrier to entry a bad thing?

>>55907244
>Holding is a natural prerequisite to spending.

Holding to spend later ≠ retarded "never spending/selling until cashout time" HODL culture.

>Furthermore, dismissing price when manipulated is just dishonest. If something is manipulated you can still study the price from the underlying actual supply and demand and even draw more complex conclusions than otherwise.

And of what value are such conclusions? Price clearly was not a factor in the darknet's decision to ditch a 5-figure Bitcoin in favor of a 3-figure Monero, it all comes down to the tech being superior, tech is ALL that ultimately matters.

>>55902123
>bitcoin losing darknet market share to monero
>sat value of monero crabs between .005 and .008
>bunch of projects being finished Soon™

There's not much more to say really. Even price discussion is kinda pointless since the price is basically the same as it was 2 years ago

very few things bring me more joy than bitshit crashing

>>55912835
Its such a farce to know that pretty much all of the top 100 cryptos, barring stables, go down by the exact same percent. Makes me wonder how much of even xmr is us versus the jews.

>>55902123
Not much news. At least there sre more nodes than a year ago.

Anyone got any info on the proof-of-work DOS protection system that tor implemented?

>>55917095
Its still in pre lease as far as i know. The mechanism is like the POW of monero, and was also build by tevador

https://github.com/tevador/equix

The proposal is here
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/torspec/-/blob/main/proposals/327-pow-over-intro.txt

>>55917171
So its still not running? I have high hopes for this method.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbyXBUEOy5A

>>55908040
The general is dead to a certain extent. You would expect the more technologically invested people to stick around, but turns out only the more financially invested people did after the hype died down again.

>>55910486
I never implied that "HODL forever" is healthy, I said the opposite
>This is not to imply that a "HODL forever" mentality is healthy, it is the opposite.
However, savings or holding IS an important part of economic activity. People will not always instantly spend their monerujo or use Monero as a simple laundry service. That is the entire point of parallel markets and circular economies, to increase the time people are holding Monero for. And the more Monero is held for, the higher the chance of a coincidence of wants enabling it to be a better medium of exchange. That is the regression theorem in action.
I'm not contesting the opposition to the BTC "HODL until sell at higher price", I'm contesting that holding is inherently a bad thing and you have to immediately use your coins.

>tech is ALL that ultimately matters
But why contest price discussion? Price is an exchange ratio dependent on the supply and demand. You can clearly study it and take profit from the eventual collapse of such schemes of price manipulation. There is no shame in forecasting market phenomena and making money out of it. I understand that TA might leave a bitter taste in anyone's mind, but price discussion can be done in a good manner and "prohibiting" it won't make any difference to the thread, only discourage people in good faith from doing it. We had price discussion before and we can have it again.

>>55910486
>>55919962
I think saving/low time preference is an activity worth discussing given it is necessary for long-term economic growth, whereas currency devaluation isn't a sustainable growth engine.
Most people don't have much risk tolerance or financial literacy, they just want save in cash or equivalents (GICs, government bonds, or whatever else is perceived as the most boring).
Fortunately, the Monero's bear-market (true) value has risen against the "official" CPI numbers, though I'd have to check against the actual (shadowstats) values. Ease of access and increased perception as a "boring" savings vehicle would still need work though. Also a reduction in volatility, though this has been approaching Bitcoin's levels.

>>55919962
General is dead because anons went outside to do things in real life, (this is unironically a good thing). That doesn't mean that some of the past regulars will not come and check-in every now and then... after-all, Monero-chan will always be there for you when (You) need her, She has the upmost loyalty to (You) and (You)r Private Financial needs.

>>55919962
>You would expect the more technologically invested people to stick around
I usually read the MRL logs, but last few still aren't updated.
But again, not much to talk about tech wise. Yeah development is slowly but steadily continues so it's natural that threads are dead.

https://moneroj.net/coins/

Hey, what happened to the coin supply? Is that why we pumped?

>>55921822
Pic related.

I wss trying to study economics and well i am sure monero may have more inelastic demand for some simple reasons

Coke and all the ilegal drugs have inelastic demand so as long as globohomo preserves the ilegality of drugs then xmr will continue to have demand

But if glohobomo makes drugs legal then what products will sustain xmr price?

>>55921896
>But if glohobomo makes drugs legal then what products will sustain xmr price?
Anything that a purchaser would like to buy privately. In an ever increasingly surveillance state world privacy is the commodity, not the product.

>>55921896
Whatever the new illegal thing is. TPTB can't resist outlawing things, since people following their orders to not do X is how they measure their power over the population. If it's not cocaine it'll be organic cocaine

>>55921822
>>55921858
I didn't even know this could happen

>>55919962
>The general is dead to a certain extent. You would expect the more technologically invested people to stick around, but turns out only the more financially invested people did after the hype died down again.
we didn't leave, we're still DCAing in the background

>>55919962
>But why contest price discussion?

Because its a distraction that inevitably leads to low-effort moonfagging. There's a reason why r/Monero prohibits price talk and will redirect you to the containment sub. Hell, even the Z-cucks are now jumping on the bandwagon.

https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/restricting-price-discussions/45441

You're free to make a dedicated XMR Price Talk General however. Just don't be surprised when it degenerates into lunar cycle enquiry spam.

>>55921896
>But if glohobomo makes drugs legal then what products will sustain xmr price?

the black market is not limited to only narcotics.

>>55921896
Money that you don't want the government to know about extends to more sectors than simply the drug market

>>55895552
Fuck you

It's fucking over isn't it?

its over. Monero has no value.

what's going on guys

>>55927338
it's fucking clown world
>Pre-market 19.30 +17.34 (884.69%)
AMC did 880% an hour ago....

>>55927353
I don't know what this means

>>55927363
Means this place is going to be talking about AMC stock for the next 2 fucking years.

>>55927368
this is the monero thread mister

>>55927374
I'm saying we are gonna bullrun don't worry.

But until then shits gonna be all AMC for two weeks.

We are repeating the 2021 cycle as I predicted and tonight proves it.

>>55927378
oh ok I wasn't sure what you meant, I bought earlier hopefully it wasn't too soon

>>55927469
Buy everything you can right now literally anything we are about to kick off again.
I'm literally a broke poorfag kek but I know patterns like a motherfucker.

>>55927353
but that was just the reverse split...

What's the best way to swap LTC for XMR nowadays?
I was surprised to see that TradeOgre doesn't have a LTC/XMR pair
I was thinking about MajesticBank as they are usually recommended but do you guys have any other advices or service you would recommend?
Also maybe one day we will have a LTC/WMR atomic swap !

>>55927791
I've used majesticbank multiple times, pretty solid service

>>55927791
You can check trocador and either use it directly or use it to find exchanges

it keeps going down but I already bought everything I could

wehn botem?
$125 sems resonbl

>>55928677
125-133 is the true support. The fact it bounced at 142-143 was unexpected new support level after random market maker dump. Someone front running the lower support. 170 being the next big resistance. I would keep ample reserves for doubling down, accumulate at support levels, but keep the ability to double down on the table. The bankers will lose!

Bought.

>>55871528
>>55929348
based

>>55929029
have a hug fren

How much daily volume does monero get on darknet?

>>55930630

>>55930630
I mean there's no real way to tell, but being extremely conservative I'd wager any given day could see middle 5 figures to lower 6 figures.

We can count # of txs and make some assumptions about how much of that transaction volume is darknet-related and then even more assumptions about the average value of a dark net transaction but that's about as close as we can get without turning it into a huge project

>>55930630
>How much daily volume does monero get on darknet?

As XMR keeps taking market share from BTC, more and more.

>>55920554
Yes, the ideal scenario for any cryptocurrency is long term non-investorial holding, that is why I think Monero's increasing involvement in black and grey matter activities is a tremendous bonus when compared to other alts or bitcoin. Parallel and circular economies mean a passive acceptance of the use of the currency in question. This not only creates demand, but also starts stabilizing prices as goods and services will start to be priced in terms of XMR rather than USD and use XMR for the payment. The empirical rise of the base price is unsurprising, but there aren't many years of DNM usage so there are basically 2 data points that we are looking at. Promising nonetheless since the shadow CPI is actually higher (also CPI is not the most accurate method of measuring inflation, I wonder what does XMR's price look like compared to something like the NDQ or the M1/2)
>>55920622
A marriage if for a lifetime after all (picrel)
>>55921263
The github is slow, you can join the IRC/matrix directly and just listen around, or there is https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lab which should be mostly live. But yes, slow and steady are exactly the words for the current monero development. The prospects of L2 and better atomic swaps is still on the horizon.

>>55931145
You can invest in currencies. Most of the more succesfull currencies are so because of offshare and illegal markets. The money gets invested mostly in currency, real estate, bullion, horses, art etc.
>British pounds > offshore british empire
>Swiss Francs > Swiss franc banking secrets

No need to sugarcoat anything. The most succesfull currencies are because of a stable underground/illegal market.
Money laundering, terrorist financing, narcotics, wars, (tax evasion). If it was just about transactions and volume then I'm pretty sure something like a Rupee would be tremendously valueable because of the amount of times it gets transacted in a day.
Rupee is not valueable because they're not catering to the right markets. Offshore market wealth is bigger than the entire worlds GDP.

>>55921896
Legalization in 99% of the cases will come with some extra cost, whether that be going to dedicated licensed shops, to extra taxes, or registrations needed. This is why in some places, people still buy drugs illegally even after legalization. It can be cheaper both money and subjective value wise (people value privacy, discretion, etc). Also see (>>55925981), the demand for XMR is not only DNMs, mostly undocumented grey market activities have started to adopt it as well. The "problem" with Monero is that you cannot really measure it like you can with Bitcoin or Litecoin.
>>55930630
Going by the last ChainAnal reports before XMR really took a dent in the market share, I would give a band of 0.5-5 billion USD/year for revenue only. From 2020 to 2021, reported DNM revenue grew from 2.1 billion to 3.1 billion and then growth "stopped" meaning ChainAnal can no longer track it. Ctrl+F and of their reports and their mentions of Monero asides from the the tangential
>we also saw a rise of markets using XMR
They don't know anything about XMR usage, which is becoming increasingly prevalent, so the best we have is to predict based on the trends in previous, now traceable, usage
Tho the whole Dread DDoS fiasco and possibly the bear market likely left a dent in the total volume.

>put 30k USD into Monero fully believing in its future only to be now worth 16k and the devs have hard forked coin multiple times to make supply infinite so I will eventually lose out on the investment
Tally-ho!

>>55932331
>and the devs have hard forked coin multiple times to make supply infinite
you will not provide a single shred of evidence for this BS.

now, go back to your village and drink the poo-juice.

>>55932586
>Monero will undergo a hard fork network upgrade on 13th August

>>55932606
>no! I refuse to join new fork!
>there's no miners because there's no incentive
>noooooo

>>55932625
People did join the new fork though, so you guys can LARP all day about how the miners just won't join the new fork... and then they do and it always happens this way...

>>55932635
go back and read that post again. It's not saying what you think it's saying

>>55932643
>people mine Monero
>Devs hard fork
>Miners move to new fork
You're an uneducated jeet aren't you?

>>55932635
jokes on you I was only pretending to be retarded

>>55932606
nigga the tail emmission was there from the start.

eat shit

>>55932664
Nope newfaggot

>>55932686
your screenshot is irrelevant and your shit is retarded.

fuck off nigger

>>55932656
>what is sarcasm?
The post was saying that without the tail emissions the future is like bitcoin where transaction fees are the thing that moons because miners need an incentive to mine
>>55932686
tail emission "started" because before that the block rewards were enough incentive to mine. I second >>55932710 in his sentiment

>>55932710
mmm pretty sure someone is an uneducated jeet newfaggot

https://www.getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/tail-emission.html

>>55932719
So Tail emissions will benefit the actual use-case of the coin, which by all means is a good thing, but as for a long-term investment it's not a good option.

I'd wager 90% of the people here are just here to make money so it'll be a bitter pill for people to swallow that their coin is getting inflated in the name of PRIVACY (because otherwise the network won't be secure when people don't mine!!111!!111! pedos gotta buy content somehow right jeets)

>>55932748
do you think the developers of monero are making an investment product or a private transaction network?

I don't want to FUD, as I said I am 30k in the hole on Monero but the fact no one can refute what I'm saying about the long-term inflation of the coin is worrying for me as an investment.

I knew there was a fucking reason Monero has been slowly slipping into death the last 2 years.

>>55932754
Does it matter? A successful coin needs both.

>>55932748
what
it's obviously a good thing long term?

>>55932766
>A successful coin needs both.
what the fuck are you even on about
just sell your investment product and fuck off

>>55932766
how do you buy 30k worth of something without understanding anything about it? I call larp

>>55932776
See what I mean, in this entire thread no one has managed to refute anything I say and just starts seething because you know that when there are 50m your coin will be worth a few dollars. There aren't enough pedo's to pump your bags.
>Every successful coin (bar meme coins) has been secure and a good investment, jeet

>>55932789
Because the rate Monero was going in 2021 was different to how it is now. Now it's been delisted and liquidity is exiting faster than it's been going in for the past 2 years which is not alike other crypto over the past year.

I didn't pay ATH's for the coin but it hasn't grown from where I did buy it

>>55932766
>I don't want to FUD
I call bullshit. Tail emissions aren't just for the miners. They're also good for keeping the total supply stable as coins are lost to wallets the owner lost access to. Take a moment (if you can) to think about why that's beneficial for a currency and don't respond again until you really understand it

>>55932845
Fuck you niggers I'm just going to keep my bags anyway and wait for the next hard-fork that makes my investment so secure, peace

>>55932888
goodbye low iq inbred

>>55932888
kek, checked

>>55921822
Can someone please answer this?

>>55921822
>>55933141
moneroj owner has said that it is a bug. he will fix it.

instead of sweating over the amount of XMR coins in circulation as-shown on a random website, why don't you use your own node and verify it yourself.

>anon you do have a Monero node of your own, right?
well, anon?

>>55933200
I actually have a node. I suppose this requires some kind of autistic level knowledge to do?

>>55919962
>You would expect the more technologically invested people to stick around,...

its the lurkers who stay. less noise is not always a bad thing

>>55932766
Sold all BTC because it doesn't have tail emmision, it's one of moneros best feature

>>55933243
https://www.moneroinflation.com/

Is running a local node on androida good idea?
Will my batery run out too quickly?
Just to run the node, i dont want to mine

>>55937211
it can be a good idea
as long as it can run a node then it's a good idea
obviously it will use your battery but I can't say for sure how much, you have to try to see as it will depends on your phone model/battery and what you do with it (only for the node or not)

>>55937488
gonna buy me a good sd card.
do you have any idea on how to run a node on android?

>>55937551
yes take a sd card, it's better
you have some tools here -> https://github.com/CryptoGrampy/android-termux-monero-node
anyway you have to run it through Termux
if you have already run a node on linux or windows you should be able to do it on android too
if you can, reminder to run a FULL node fren

>>55937568
I've run full node in linux but with the official gui wallet so i guess this time is going to be quite different. Thanks for the info man

>>55870131
Source on art?

I just reupped on chocolate whey powder with a coincard purchased with- you guessed it- Monero.

monero is the best i just love it
i just love to be able to make anonymous payments to people all over the world
this is real freedom
monero is based
thanks to all of you guys
take care and godspeed

Why is "monero" chan a thing
Stop putting little girls or women on shit.
Make it manly for the love of christ, what ever happened to masculinity have we all been simped to the point the only thing we think about is pussy?
Because 99% of you would be disgusted when you put your face in one.
just saying.

>>55944547

>>55944562
Would it kill us to make something new?
Something more interesting and unique?

>>55944562
I put peppermint oil on my chair and now my ass is sweating and it's seeping through and tingling my ass cheeks.

>>55944572

No homo.

>>55944584
kek where tf did you find this shit.

>>55944599

the leaked sex tape obviously

>>55944614
God women are pure evil.
I had a cousin like this same shit except he was wheelchair bound by a car accident that decapitated his dad, she did the same shit groomed him married him fucked him, then fucked his friends and took his money and he killed himself.

>>55944584
Imagine the smell, you can see her holding back her gagging multiple times jfc.

>>55944662

Yeah, a lot of people, myself included, are convinced this is a phony relationship. Or she's got some bizarre gimp fetish.

Most likely they have some sort of mutually beneficial business arrangement and she's getting dicked on the side.

>>55944685
100% I'm a sexhaver, if a woman was interested in you when she blows you her back would arch outward naturally like they want you to fuck them.
When
>I haven't washed in a week because I'm sick and fuck them
They do that gag, I'm quite familiar with it.

She's getting dick and probably he has a ton of money from either rich family or settlements from some pharmaceutical payout.
And obviously e-fame.

>>55944685
Why hasn't anyone done a warhammer 40k theme monero AI art?
I mean it wouldn't be hard I just want to see a space marine in monero colors.

has anyone ever sell Monero for FIAT on a KYC exchange like Kraken/Coinbase?

what's the point of CoinJoin your BTC and risking having your coins "flagged" when you send them to the KYC exchange if you can just swap your BTC for Monero since it's private?

>>55944722
I've sold XMR on kraken all the time and used LTC to xfer to my kyc cb.
3 years doing it never an issue.

>>55944722
Someone probably has but it isn't me.
Why use BTC at all if your goal is privacy? The ledger is wholly transparent and no amount of extra layers and "privacy addons" will change that simple fact.

>>55944732
thank you. how is coinjoin a thing then? why would you go through all that hassle if you can just swap for XMR and be "clean"?
>>55944735
I just have a few sats that I want to sell but I don't want the guy who sent them to me in the first place to track them

>>55944833
I assume it's for people being paranoid.

>>55944735

Because 'muh Bitcoin only!''

What's the fastest easiest way to turn bitcoin into monero?

>>55946436
get cakewallet.com or stackwallet.com and use the built-in exchange.

apart from those, you can check out trocador.app

>>55921896
Some people just want privacy even if they're doing something legal

>>55921896
Simple privacy

>>55921896
It is not anyone's business what 2 or 3 consenting adults do in the privacy of their own wallet.

>>55921858
>500k coins dissapearing
what causes this?

>>55947328
it's just a bug on the site

>>55947342
You're a bug on a site

>>55947348
sure

>>55921896
these are the banks and payment services that have closed their services to Austrian Identitarian Martin Sellner because they disagree with his politics

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/i-just-want-sell-titty-pictures-sex-workers-fked-crypto

>muh decentralization
Lol. Should have used localmonero and agoradesk

>>55944547
>Why is "monero" chan a thing
Welcome to 4chan. You either embrace the retarded anime shit or you learn to subconsciously filter it out.

>>55947784
I suppose its good banks discriminate sluts

>>55944547

Is there any technology that could abolish patent laws or make patent laws obsolete

>>55949256
You're looking for the GPLv3
>author waives all rights to invoke DMCA or equivalent laws when it comes to DRM bypassing/cracking
>" Each contributor grants you a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free
patent license under the contributor's essential patent claims, to
make, use, sell, offer for sale, import and otherwise run, modify and
propagate the contents of its contributor version." <-- any patents or other IP you have become mine when you use them to create GPLv3 software
It's so wildly antisemitic I'm surprised it got published in the first place

>>55949981
fucked up the formatting but you get the idea. There's also an equivalent license (GNU Free Documentation License) for non-software documentation but I'm not sure if it has the same patent section in it. Either way that's the kind of stuff that needs to make its way into more of normiedom

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