/biz/ - Business & Finance

Spy go down plz edition

Mumu.
Look at the yields.
Look at the DXY.
Inflation is going higher, mumu.
The market doesn't move up, or down, in a straight line.
The trend is down.

Just checked facebook for the first time in 10 years....
The girls did not age well

The BOIL shill is a literal fed trying to lure people into bad investments.

>>55838057
>>55838057
>Look at the yields
Looks like the 90s
You guys have too much time to say the same thing over and over until it becomes a mantra that you believe in. But, of course, I could be wrong. (of course)

>>55838070
You should be long something anon.

The schiz schiz is a literal jew trying to lure Anons away from the most based trading instrument on Earth (BOIL).

>>55838070
it's great if you trade it, I literally made $2400 on it last week

fuck, SOXL is dumping in robinhood's 24 hour market, i am getting legit spooked

>>55838056
Is is now prophesized, don't forget your tithe

>>55838145
Here's what no one's ready for.
>sellers have bigger yachts

>transfer my portfolio from one brokerage to another
>holdings show up in new brokerage
>holdings still show up at old brokerage
...did I just discover a cheat code?

>>55838170
B A S E D

>>55838184
Don't fucking touch it anon trust me.

>>55838170
AAAAAAAAA

I am now completely convinced that the 30 year treasury yield will go to 6% and the stock market will go to new highs

>>55838134
That's hardly to the point I would consider a "dump".

Welp, blocked, someone (the schiz obviously) trying to get me banned and some of my posts are deleted.

>>55838056
>literally shorted the bottom
I'm laughing so hard rn

>>55838198
Long and short end of the curve being that high at the same time is terrible. New highs all around.

Please suggest me some stocks to buy calls/puts.

I have calls on Novavax $7.50 expiring in January 2025, and I will be buying puts on PLTR and other AI companies soon.

>>55838070
I see you're trying to get me banned again, not sure why the jannies listen to such a schiz. Your post here stands but mine calling you a jew trying to lure people away from BASED BOIL was deleted. Fuck you and fuck the faggot nigger jew jannies.

>>55838214
Spy was 445 I short at 448 ok plz?

>>55838187
Got it!

>>55838217
>Long and short end of the curve being that high at the same time is terrible.
It's bullish for everything. 9% mortgages means that the housing market will freeze and housing prices will skyrocket up because of no inventory. It also means less debt issuance from corporations, which means a smaller credit spread because lack of supply. Everyone will think we have the strongest economy of all time. Then one day the mirage ends and everything crashes to zero

YEEEEAAAAH PUMP IT

>>55838056
>down on both puts and calls
How did you fuck up so bad.

>>55838261
He's probably gonna get paid if not tomorrow the next day. He just bought those after the bell

>>55838274
The put is significantly bigger than the calls though.

New thread means new identity

>>55838274
That's exactly what I expect, he'll be green at *some* point between now and exp.

>robin hood overnight market
It's so degenerate, I love it.

>>55838063
They never do. The wall is real.

>>55838252
>Then one day the mirage ends and everything crashes to zero
You're right about everything but this. The mirage will never end as long as people strive to be in positions of power that reinforce it.

>>55838277
Right, and the calls are only for tomorrow.

>>55838277
Yea, I can see us have green futes all night and premarket, then dump hard 20 mins after open or some shit

>>55838287
Yep, I've bought and sold UNG in it. KOLD is in it now but not fuckin' BOIL which makes no sense and gives me pain!

>>55838274
I hope so.
Or I broke the trend and we see 5x green candles in a row on the 5hr

>>55838198
the banks will fail long before those yield %'s

>>55838289
>You're right about everything but this. The mirage will never end as long as people strive to be in positions of power that reinforce it.
I thought that the covid hoax would go on forever, but one day people suddenly collectively decided to stop caring about it. I think the economic mirage ends the same way, in one sudden moment

>Futures

>>55838323
>the banks will fail long before those yield %'s
Why? The Fed can just expand and make permanent BTFP so that there is zero duration risk for banks

I been out of trading for the last 6 months, what did I miss?

>>55838315
Real chads use 195minute candles.

>>55838340

Are there any actual *investors* here? I just bought a bit of John Deere, Caterpillar, Berskshire Hathway B, and a lot of KLA Corp -- the only one of the lot I am enthused about. No puts, no calls, no options -- just hang on like grim death for a year and see how they do, the better to avoid getting reamed by short term capital gains and income tax.

Am I odd man out?

Retail sales data tomorrow morning. Master Jerome Powell says this is a more accurate representation of GDP. You hedged right

>>55838315
>spring refresh
>it's summer

>>55838329
They're part of the same survival mechanism though. Covid restrictions kept people isolated, so they revolted against it. Clown market keeps everyone [who tries] rich so there's no incentive to stop it. Shit there might even be incentive to exacerbate it.

>>55838362
BAKA my head. These ads are sussin

>>55838340
An incredibly well played, elaborate bull *and* bear trap.

>>55838354
I have 90 shares of WMT, 200 oz of silver, and $10k in bonds. I plan to buy TAK and VMC on the next market downturn, followed by exposure to copper, sand, water, and uranium

>>55838354
I'm unironically investing in semiconductors through SOXL. I expect companies like Nvidia, AMD, Texas Instruments, Intel etc. to continue to do well so why not get triple leverage? The real Boglehead method.

>>55838070
>>55838202
>>55838220
>get called out for being a shill
>delete your own post and put on a "woe is me" act

What the hell happened to Nvidia? Did some news drop or something?

>>55838354
DE is my favorite long term hold but you bought it a bit high. It has shocking dipparino bounce back strength though, over and over.

>>55838354
There are plenty of stocks I hold for the long term. And I don’t trade options I kinda just swing trade between SQQQ and TQQQ for short term gains.

>>55838389
Several countries are buying all the chips

>>55838387
>be a schizo nigger faggot jew
>be a schizo nigger faggot jew
>be a schizo nigger faggot jew
Verification not required.

>>55838389
Degens accumulating at technical support levels for the next big "we have ai" pump.

>>55838340
Everyday, the same 5 possible outcomes as 6 months ago: It go down a little, go down a lot, go up a little, go up a lot, or stay the same. And of course, different variations of the same (((shenanigans)))

>>55838389
Probably going to be the epicenter of the next bubble

>>55838389
News got out that soros and buffet bought NVDA to dump on the earnings pump, and redditors think this is bullish.

There are some gnarly gaps on NVDA.

>>55838427
Warren "my favorite holding period is forever" Buffett? I can't believe anything said here

>>55838056
Oh man I'm fucked.
Gn I hope I can fall asleep

>>55838381
>>55838384
>>55838390
>>55838391
Ah good. I was beginning to feel like the only sober guy at the bar.

This green might be a good sign for bobo tomorrow

>>55838407
What cycle are we on right now, down a little, down a lot?

>>55838389
Saudi Arabia, the UAE and China have all stated publicly that they're buying shit tons of Nvidia chips to stay competitive with AI. Alibaba alone committed $5 billion, so I'm betting other countries are also buying billions-worth. I would genuinely be surprised if Nvidia came up very short of $11 billion this quarter.

But also it could all be a Cramer-tier pump and dump for earnings and no one is buying shit, who knows

fellas, NVDA's chart doesn't look too good

I'm holding 336 shares of KO, 144 shares of VZ and 8 other stocks in lessor amounts that I plan to build up overtime that I'm holding till I fucking die. (Then the whole lot of it along with any other assets will go into a trust w/the stipulation it all never gets sold. merely held/used by the heirs till the line is gone; least that's what I aim to do down the road anyway).

>>55838337
>the Fed can just print trillions and trillions to bail out thousands of failed banks anon, everything will be okay!

>>55838445
There's plenty of long term holders around here. I rarely do myself, but I manage my son's account and do his picks, etc. I have a tendency to sell mine off while I go deep into natgas trades then buy them back again while awaiting the next go. I very much suggest adding to your DE holdings on any good dips because it will pretty much always pay off again. GIS and TSN are in pretty good places for buying a long on (son has had both for a while, I watch these daily).

i'm just gonna say it
the stock market is gay

>>55838437
lmao i'm still using that same cooler on 13600k

>>55838445
Ah, this guy here >>55838480 is known as KO boomer and he long holds a nice little selection.

>>55838134
Good. I desperately need SOXS to print.

The longer the fed tries to prop up the market, the more violent the correction will be. They pumped billions in QE today. Most likely due to upcoming Jackson Hole. If they let it drop afterwards, it will be a legendary September.

>>55838455
>down a little, down a lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znCLhfVarcc

>>55838496

>China Retail Sales (Y/Y) Jul: 2.5% (est 4.0%; prev 3.1%)
>- Retail Sales YTD (Y/Y) Jul: 7.3% (est 7.6%; prev 8.2%)

1,5% less m/m = 0,3% less y/y

>>55838526
I wonder if that will affect the market in any way.

>>55838484
Duly noted. But I think I'll continue to average in on KLA. I worked there briefly as a contractor awhile back, and it really impressed me how they had their shit together.

>>55838005
Any thoughts on $CALM?
>11% dividend
>Largest egg producer in the USA
>Posted large revenue increase in 2023
>No debt
>FCF $702 million
Honestly seems pretty good from a quick glance, going to do an industry comp and DCF.

I am not outperforming the market this year. Is four more months long enough to correct this?

>>55838546
I like most of these things, always down for a solid divvie trap now that i can actually get solid cash from them. Also is this how they season they meat fr?

>>55838485
MODS! MODS! APPREHEND THAT MAN. ARREST HIM FOR THOUGHT CRIMES NOW

Some HI electric company stock shat big time today over the wildfire news. The good bits; WTF they gonna do, close it? The company serves over 90% of the population. Kinda like that one company in California that's been sued many times yet still remains going.

>>55838545
I know nothing about them, but DE is the future of ag. They are actively working on fully automated AI robot farms from plowing to planting to harvesting. They are the TSLA of ag except for not ran by a fuckin' sperg/con.

>>55838217
yhe yieldcurve would be uninverted so no recession. 5% 1 year and a 6-7% 30 year would be perfectly healthy.

What's the possibility that China and Saudi Arabia are buying up Nvidia chips to rid as much dollar for their BRICS meeting next week?

>>55838589
there is no logical reason for them to give up the dollars in their possession, if only to hedge against their third world organization performing like you would expect a third world organization to.

Yo wtf guys... I recently, about 2 weeks had a look at Stellantis. They are the mother corporation of Chrysler, Fiat, Peugeot, Citroen.

I looked at Peugeot. They have some new models, Sedans. I saw the prices at +40000k and thought
>Wow, now peugeot costs as much as Mercedes Benz a few years ago
I just clicked on a Mercedes Benz ad that just came up. Their fuckin cars also cost around 40-50k. W

WTF? Peugeot now costs as much as Benz? Are they fuckin retarded? Is this some mindtrick?

I'm surprised anons haven't liquidated yet. I'm just going to wait out September from the sidelines, except for a couple of earnings plays. It's been crabbing for a while now.

>>55838627
I keep hoping for OXY to hit $70 per share. Doesn't look like we are going to make it before the market poops itself though. Might get stuck with bags again.

>>55838625
Ok, the peugeot was electric, the Benz are combustion. Maybe that's one big reason, but still.

2y yield not far from 5%

>>55838546
God i wish i was the ground beef. Thank god she has a mask on to prevent germs

>>55838567
I’m trying to remember the exact sequence of events with how PG&E traded after the California Wildfires.

We’ve gotten the sell off, next comes the “bankruptcy” rumors until the state and Feds come in and backstop the company because it is a utility company. If you haven’t bought puts yet, I think waiting a week and buying some shares will yield an easy 20% gain if you are patient (plus dividend)

>>55838589
Bro, it's becoming obvious that AI is becoming very good at sex AI and will probably be a big boom shortly. Chinese and rich Arabs love that shit. I feel like we can count on vices. And we can count on this. If they have the money and we have the chips, it's only a matter of time.

Only thing to fear is a supply chain. Pft, well not the only thing. Petrodollar's kinda important

>>55838651
PNC Bank probably collapses if we cross 5.5% on the 2yr

>>55838576
Really? Only podcasts have told me otherwise.

>>55838651
dont tell them these people are still buying ai stocks

Wework is going bankrupt, every company that announces bankruptcy pumps 500-1000% now. Wework has yet to have its retard pump, I am accumulating now.

>>55838678
Why?

>>55838678
The trend is going down. Wouldn't buying shares at all be a risk

>>55838678
It worked out well for that yellow trucking company i wish you well. I hope you aren't leakage from the quarantine boards/plebbit and can actually take profit.
>just wait for rocker to mention this in an update vid

>>55838685
>>55838689
It hasn't had the bankruptcy retard pump that every semi well known company going bankrupt gets now due to redditors. The last 2 examples of this are Yellow and Tuperware.

>>55838701
I still see wework signs on building in Austin, go ahead and buy. 20k shares close at .38?

>>55838377
>Covid restrictions kept people isolated, so they revolted against it.
The vast majority of people loved covid restrictions. Lockdowns gave people a feeling of purpose and security. People loved to wear masks because it made them look virtuous. People loved to get vaccinated and tell everyone that they got vaccinated.
People didn't revolt against covid restrictions, they just one day decided to stop caring so much about the seasonal flu
>>55838481
>the Fed can just print trillions and trillions to bail out thousands of failed banks
Yeah they can. That's what they did in March with the BTFP and it sent the stock market back towards all time highs. So long as the dollar is the world reserve currency the Fed can just print money to stop any crisis that arises

>>55838640
I hear you. I want to park my money in something safe, but I just don't know if anything will suffice. Maybe the bobos have gotten to me and scared me. Or maybe it was that damn credit rating that cause the market to go into a downwards trend. But I just feel that the clown market can't sustain itself forever.

>futures
Boboidz seething

>>55838678
Fuck off baggie. It already had its retardpump from $0.13 to $0.30. Buy in now and you’ll be no better than those BBBaggY cucks.

>>55838546
>10% insider ownership
>48mil shares outstanding/39mil float
Seems like dilute city.

>Fag posts anti-white shit
>call him nigger, Get banned
Why does 4chan employ faggot activist janitors?

>>55838730
That's literally nothing, that was smart money buying the day the news first came out. It will pump 800% like Yellow did once the redditors FOMO in.

>>55838716
The stop caring stage was way stranger for me. We just shook it off like a bad cold or something.

Tomorrow will be a classic clown market day: yields will break October 2022 highs because of retail sales data and stocks indices will go up 1-2%. DXY will pump too

>>55838744
Thanks. Why do the redditors jump in though?

>>55838751
Based, NVDA is going to $500 this week.

>>55838751
Also vix and /cl plus the memes, it's 2021 again anon.

>>55838727
Get robinhood gold and just keep your money parked there. I hear the interest rate is better than apple's competitor

>>55838758
They think they are "owning" hedgies even when a company isn't heavily shorted. They literally pump every well known company that is going bankrupt and have for the last couple years.

>>55838767

>>55838763
> it's 2021 again anon.
Just this time with parabolically rising yields

>>55838776
That guy either bought at the height of the pump, or he refused to sell when it retard pumped.

>>55838783
>that's what's so insane about this

>>55838776
Also, he bought options on a meme stock, that's just insanely greedy.

>>55838787
What’s your price target for we work? It’s .22 now, is 2.20 unreasonable?

I warned them. I warned them and they laughed.

Read another hentai doujin. Gist; Dude took a vacation from work to an out of the way relaxation inn resort type place. A special service is provided; the attendants give the guests a tit fuck and fuck him silly in the open air bath. Don't really know how much actual relaxation he got cause he spent 3 whole days fucking them both. At the end his company gets billed for his stay; 240,000 yen or almost 1700 USD. Sounds like he got a good deal to me..

>>55838797
Are (WE) here?

>>55838354
I've just been buying dividend friendly stuff for my Roth. Still too scared about this market.
>>55838790

>>55838790
you did say we wouldn't believe our eyes
I respect you not flipflopping like kpop poster

>>55838742
Kek, what did you expect? This website is owned by you know who.
>>55838764
I've been considering getting Robinhood not only for that, but the 24 hrs market. Also, they have the best interface.

To the people talking about WeWork, be careful. Make sure to set a limit so you don't lose any money. You can make good cash if you play your cards right. I made $4k with TUP. Could have made more, but I was a dumbass. You have to watch it at all times since it's so volatile.

>>55838803
Yes.

>>55838799

Um... Bobros? I don't feel so good

>>55838794
Probably like $2 or some shit.

>>55838651
>companies need to refinance with these record high rates
>its going to cut into the earnings
>prices already record high

>>55838559
They be seasoning that meat real nice.
I still want to look more into it but from a first glance seems like a nice position to take. I just don't understand the stock drop off when they posted good numbers.
>>55838567
>>55838657
What ticker?
>>55838740
What's the worst case scenario with a large amount of floated shares? I guess they could do buybacks with all of the excess capital if they wanted to.

>>55838742
Glowies only hire leftist authoritarian moderators, that filter for free speech tyrannicao selective enforcement tranny jannies. Tyrants always seem to gravitate to any positions of power and control over other people, even doing it for free

>>55838716
BTFP is a band aid, for a cut - if you have full aorta explosion, there are not enough band aids, the whole system is toxic and dies, you cannot stuff gauze into an exploded aorta

its been a full month since my visit with an escort, she wasn't great, and the sex was ok. its the only action i'm able to get relatively quick and hassle free. i'm thinking of calling her again. i haven't really tried dating these last few weeks because i've been busy with overtime at work as well as some personal stuff

>>55838827
>>55838794
More like 1.00. That's the magic number they have to hit to stay on the exchange. That's also a prime dump target. So uh get in, then get out before the dump spree happens.

>>55838848
>>>/x/35586738

>>55838842
>BTFP is a band aid, for a cut
Which the Fed can easily make a permanent fix. What's stopping them from extending the loans past one year and making BTFP permanent?

Be the change you want to see in the world anons, see you at the bell.

>>55838841
Can attest to this. Been in chatrooms since I was 14. The admins in IRC channels were always the sullen and dreary bossy types. I actually feel bad for them, looking back, but they were jerks. You had to call them out or they'd just keep twisting the dagger metaphorically speaking :(

Jannie don't think it be like that but it do.

Lol they should just rename this place stock market general

>>55838496

I wanna go surfing so bad.

What % of your income is wise to invest each month, when paying no rent?

Is it retarded to begin now and DCAing instead of waiting for a dump?

>>55838063
You’re not supposed to do that lol. One year is insane. Even 3 months is bad.

>>55838891
No you dca now, small amounts, every month/week/whatever. Then when the epic dump happens, then you deploy the mega load. Keep some back for when life tosses a wrench at you though. Don't be one of those who can't cough up 5000 if the situation calls for it.

>>55838871
weimer hyperinflation

>>55838857
>x
idk whether to take you seriously or not. if serious, i don't believe in that mumbo jumbo, jack. i'm also not jerking off 45 times a day to the most degenerate smut content out there. i'm a trade wagie, i eat as natural as i can, and i jerk off maybe once a week. i'm doing better than most "sigmas" out there.

>>55838891
>What % of your income is wise to invest each month, when paying no rent?
Are you me? I’ve been slowly creeping into some stocks that took a hit recently, mostly divvies that are a bit slumped (mil contractors mostly).
>Is it retarded to begin now and DCAing instead of waiting for a dump?
It’s technically best to just buy an S&P ETF whenever you can since (assuming you’re early twenties too) our time window is long enough that a crash *shouldnt* matter. Granted, that’s assuming past results are indicative of future results. But it’s a fairly safe bet. I’ve been trying to time the market because I enjoy this sorta thing, but technically it’s not the “wise thing to do” since you essentially have to get lucky or wait for a generational crash like COVID or 2008.

>>55838828
Why must the refinance to higher rates (implying they are already financed at lower rates)?

Bo, b bo, bo bo bo

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>>55838716
Covid gave me the worst cognitive dissonance. I began doubting every one of the cemented old truths of our society. I found out most of them are relatively recent inventions. Covid numbers were fake. Medical system is fucked on purpose. Diets are monocrop marketing schemes. Veganism, Pride month and media are killing our youth, and did a number on boomers.

I just want to buy land and guns so for the next COVID wave I do not have to withstand this madness.

>>55838919
>weimer hyperinflation
It seems like the inevitable end result. People cannot tolerate economic contraction at all. If their house value goes down 1% they freak out. If the stock market isn't going up in a straight line they think it's the end of the world. People will happily accept hyperinflation

>>55838945
yeah you got schizo'd

>>55838841
>>55838874
There’s been a particularly bad over sensitive janny lately; multiple warnings, bans and deleted posts for such trivial shit that’s never been a problem here or elsewhere before.

>>55838942
>overnight futures matter

>>55838942
Sup dawg

>>55838945
Many such cases

TSLY bros...let's ride

>>55838945
Covid made many people crazier than they were due to the isolation, myself included. I am thinking about what stock would benefit from this, but i dunno yet. Pharma companies?

Why are we stuck at 4500 for weeks? DO SOMETHING YOU BLOODY BITCH BASTERD

Where can I buy a corporation’s bonds?

>>55838937
>>55838891
I throw $60 into my portfolio at a time, at least once a week unless things are going neon green. Otherwise I wait for ~5% red days and buy. Being entirely triple leveraged also helps.

>>55838963
Hey bro

>>55838954
Yes, he's probably mad cause keeps failing his series 7 exam, probably can't pass his 6 either, and taking it out on anybody right of Mao

Buy $BABA

>>55838983
Learn the market cycle. You're supposed to be selling puts right now.
Calls too if you have balls.

>>55838945
>I found out most of them are relatively recent inventions.
Some of them are ancient inventions but filtered through the clown world lens. For example vegan/vegetarian diet has a long history and a real religious significance. But today it's distorted into some weird pods n' bugs WEF cult thing.
Yoga is another good example. Yoga was created as a strengthening practice for men. Now it's used by women for faux spiritual practice and instagram photos
>I just want to buy land and guns so for the next COVID wave I do not have to withstand this madness.
Maybe fake alien invasion next? I'm interested to see which crisis they create next, it will surely be even bigger than the covid hoax

>>55838994
>Being entirely triple leveraged also helps
>helps
Literally NGMI. You understand if there is a crash you lose everything right? Even a 20% correction which would be recoverable for any non retarded individual would wipe out your portfolio. Even a 2x is better than a 3x. That’s just ignorant.

>>55838956
>overnight futures
>matter

>>55838983
We crab until nvidia earnings
Then it's either a new paradigm or it's over

>>55838987
if you have a real broker such as Fidelity you can simply log in and place an order during market hours
with that said. corporate bonds may not be the wisest purchase at this time.

>>55838996
what up

>>55839007
>writing puts at the fucking top

>>55838983
Crab spreads bro. They keep working for me, it's a bit nerve racking, but shit keeps reverting back to crab mode and I keep hitting huge licks

>>55838987
My broker keeps the treasuries and bonds together
I am kind of curious as to why high end corporate bonds have less yield than CDs

>>55838848
How do I hire an escort anon

>>55838972
So funny that they're up after hours because they sold covered calls today. It's honestly funny. But they're "synthetic" covered calls, which means they're gonna get blown out eventually. If Tesla invent an AI robot their shares will explode once again.

>>55839013
Yeah yeah yeah I've heard it all before. Went from -70% at one point last year to up over 100%. Just kept dca'ing. Literally the Boglehead method and it was way easier than freaking out all the time about intraday moves.

>>55839030
Yes, the top is in. Vol may continue to rise a bit as hedging resumes, but there is no immediate reason we decline significantly. Not yet.
It's free premium.

Again, learn the market cycle. Merely because we're no longer rising, does not imply that we are collapsing. We crab before the fall.
Your previous post whined about us being stuck at 4500. I'm benefiting from this environment. Why aren't you?

>>55838005
Bros, should I be worried? Burry is betting a SHITLOAD of money on stocks right now...

>>55839053
nigga we could tank at any second you are just gambling. apple dropped 10% in a week

>>55839064
I wouldn't worry about it.

>>55839064
Who is gonna try to wreck him? Who is big players today that could try? Gates, Soros, Buffet, Bank that sold him the puts, who?

>SOXS
>SQQQ
>JNUG
>PALL
Welp at least one of these is gonna print right haha
R-right?

>>55839046
If you've got a 5 fig port, it makes sense to yolo 3x leverage ETFs. Once you build beyond 1-2x annual wageslave income, it becomes much harder to DCA meaningfully.
I'd recommend quitting leveraged plays once you break 6 figs.

Essentially when you hold a leverage, it's like you're on margin against your future income. The faster you can get that income, the sooner you can reload and rebound from failure. If you look at your portfolio in isolation though, you're probably violating the optimal kelly bet size on those trades so your inevitable end state is zero. You'll blow up someday.

>>55839064
I hope all the bobos pile in

>>55839064
It's a good time to short
>AI pump out of retard energy
>AAPL flopping
>Rates increasing
>Market already well above average yearly return
That doesn't mean instant crash though, any short term plays are liable to be blown out

>>55839069
>gambling
I'm speculating that the reward outweighs those risks. Learn the difference. Actually don't bother - you sound so unconfident I don't think you'll ever make it in this game. Best you just stick to passive.

>>55839113
nah i'm just patient, overtrading leads to getting raped. i pounce on big opportunities i dont grab pennies in front of steam rollers

>>55839099
>>AI pump out of retard energy
lol so wrong

>>55839095
I just don't care about all the mathematics people try to go into when it comes to holding leverage. I've seen the returns over time and I understand that, generally, 2x is "best", but again I see no point in avoiding leverage if I expect the underlying to continue doing well. If I had six figs I'd probably be using the 3x ETFs properly by day trading them.

>>55839087
can his position really be raided if he is shorting indexes with such large capitalization?

>>55839134
well put it this way, nvidia has outperformed soxl because of all the violent chop chop, and it's not even 2x...

>>55839122
>i dont grab pennies in front of steam rollers
That's too bad. As violent as the metaphor sounds, in practice steamrollers are slow and predictable.
Although, pennies is quite an underestimation of the profits being left on the table out of fear/laziness. It's multiple thousands of dollars.
I've noticed the same when I recommend merger/buyout arb plays, and any other special situations. I couldn't even count the number of people that called me a retard for buying TWTR last summer.

Can I gamble on long term bonds by getting an adjustable rate mortgage?

>>55839147
It depends - SOXL is up ~300% from its October 22 lows which is comparable to NVDA in the same timeframe. I think gambling on NVDA specifically was a riskier bet than just speculating on the broader success of the semi sector with leverage but I can see why someone would disagree

>>55838005
At what price are you guys buying Draftkings??

>>55839178
NVDA will eventually level out while the rest of the chip sector will continue to slowly rise into itself. It will grow slowly but not always.

>>55839178
This reads like cope. Just in case you're unaware.

>>55839009
>Maybe fake alien invasion next?
Fake Sino/Russian invasion seems plausible.

>Some of them are ancient inventions but filtered through the clown world lens.
You are right about this, although I don't think most of them are that old. Specially with things like diet, health, politics, childbearing and comfort. Suddenly we live in times where a man is a woman, meat is cancer, and you can't slap kids faces when they fuck up, and you can't deny it.

What amazes me is the inability of most people to understand things like foregoing or taking up diets/practices/stances/attitudes, which opposes this new common knowledge, hypnotized by the "It's good for you because the experts said so" science mantra or the given, pre-defined "equilibrium" points in all aspects of life, without giving a second outlook to the situation we've created for following these.

>>55839178
bro that is 200%. tripling is not 300%. 300% is 4x.
nvidia is up 300% and soxl is up 200%.

>Markets
https://youtu.be/ZAA04vvyD8E

Oh boy, if Burry is loading on puts so much, then I'm kinda curious to see what happens around fall. October is usually when shit hits the fan for economics.

>>55839216
Going from ~7 to ~21 is a 300% increase. 300% = 3.0, 7 x 3.0 = 21

If you math that bad again you have to leave

>>55839226
Now I'm laughing. You really got me.

so here's what's gonna happen
VIX had a bear flag today, it's setting up for a gap fill all the way to low 13s after a spike up
typical signal of a counter-trend rally
what's likely going to happen is we'll get about 2-3 more green days for S&P and Nasdaq, QQQ will probably be hitting somewhere around 377-378.
Once VIX closes the gap and bounces around 13.2-13.5 give or take some pennies it's gonna be the top signal for the rest of the market and downside from there.
This is gonna be your LAST chance to sell but you will NOT listen, you NEVER do.
Burry is right and will be making lots of money but he shorted a bit too early.
Tomorrow I'm loading up on some TQQQ to ride that move up then switch to SQQQ when VIX provides the signal. Easiest money in this dogshit market.
Unironically screencap this shit.

>>55839226
you are the putsarenottheway guy huh

>>55839239
No, I am.

>>55839098
Why would a bobo say that he's an investor?

>AMZN stock
>P/E ratio used to be over 300

>Now its 111

How the fuck?

>>55839146
Idk, a few of the bigs in cahoots could probably try to shake him out or squeeze him if they could get paid from it. I never want to underestimate rich (((bankers))) ability to plot and scheme

>>55839316
its called earnings went up(as investors hoped), you know that can happen right?

>>55839174
Probably not the best way to go about it. I seen alot of people get wrecked by those, I used to sell them, and then get people out of them if they were lucky

>>55838975
It impacted me in horrible ways. I can't play MMO's anymore as I don't like dealing with crowds even in video games.

FML

>>55839163
I know tons of shit yet I cannot trade profitably. Its frustrating.

>>55839163
I've had to bend over backwards to get out of covered calls but there's usually a way out if you're smart and you're willing to take a 25% loss instead of like 300%

>>55838576
Recessions actually come when an inverted yield curve un-inverts.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T10Y2Y

I'm trying to understand leveraged ETFs. Assume it's a 3x. If it goes up 100%, then I gain 300%. But if it goes down 33%, then I lose 100%, right? What happens if it lost 50%? Would I cap out at 100% losses? Sorry for the retarded question, I just don't really mess with leveraged ETFs that much and I see it talked about all the time here. I read online that you shouldn't hold it long-term (try to sell it in a day)? Why is that?

>>55839501
IF NVDA GOES DOWN 33% YOUR STOCK GOES DOWN 99% BUDDY HABEEB IT THE COMPUTER IS REAL

>>55839501
They do a reverse split so you can keep losing money past 99%! go look at DRV and BOIL's prices 10 years ago.

>>55839501
They also decay because the fund charges management fees to manage it, to make trades with options and futures to make it do whatever it's supposed to do and shit

And just like that, nobody still has any idea whos gonna get heemed or not 8 hours or so from now

>>55839580
I feel like that every night.

>>55839580
based

>>55839501
3x leveraged ETFs has higher fees and decay.
The reason why is because of how percentages work.

>$100 going up 100% is $200. $200 going down to $100 would mean you lost only 50%.
>$100 going to $50 would mean you lost 50%, but your stock will have to go up 100% to get back to 100 from 50.
The 3x nature compounds that daily. So you slowly if the market crabs or goes down. But you if you backwards test most 3x index funds then they do fine because of circuit breakers, IRA/401k flows, dollar devaluation, and general upward nature of markets.
UPRO, UDOW, TNA, TQQQ all outperform over the very long run, but have massive downturns. I usually go with individual stock risk, the normal or the 2x, and reserve the 3x for after the market has gone down. I also get uppity and conflicted between wanting out once it goes up now since holding them on downturns isn't fun but also waiting to sell at the right time and at the optimal tax situations.

>>55839501
>Assume it's a 3x. If it goes up 100%, then I gain 300%. But if it goes down 33%, then I lose 100%, right? What happens if it lost 50%? Would I cap out at 100% losses?
Leveraged ETFs are all calculated per day and only that day. The calculation starts fresh on the following market day. Your profit or loss is (nearly but not exactly) 3x the underlying movement for that day. Say if nasdaq goes +1 you get +3 holding tqqq. If nasdaq goes -33% in one day you lost close to 100% there. And no your position cannot go negative such that you now owe money. Just zero.

>>55839580
Meow. Mrow meeeow but mrrr mrye-ow.

Wasn't there an anon in here who says he was watching the righteous gemstones? I'm about 8 episodes in and I haven't laughed like that in awhile. Kino taste.

>>55839623
NASDAQ can't go -33% though because circut breakers would halt trading for the day before that

>>55839651
Correct

>>55839501
you would cap out your losses at 100%, you can lose more than your investment. so they are "safer" than leverage if things go the wrong way.

leveraged ETFs track DAILY performance. so if you have $100 and it goes down 10%, you have $90. Now market closes, and reopens at $90. It goes down 10%, it's at $81. So you experienced two 10% down days, but only lost 19% of your investment, not 20%. If the underyling index loses 33%, a LETF can absolutely lose 100% or close to it, but i have not seen this ever happen(what ETF has gone down 33% in one day?) Sideways markets can hurt LETFs because of how percentages work. But take a look at SOXLs performance compared to SOXX, it did more than 3x SOXX's performance in the last few years, so if you can catch a trend you benefit more on the upside as well. They also come with very high fees, so that cuts into your total gain. make sure you understand these tradeoffs

these investment products also invest in some derivatives+cash/bond funds with investor money, so you can sometimes get an additional gain if that fund does this

>>55839661
sorry i meant to say you cant lose more*

>>55839501
yes LEFT are meant to be closed at the end of day

Have any LETFs done a -100% in a day historically?

I want to be raped.

>>55839736
Ok, what's the plan here?

>>55839736

>>55839736
f-financially?

>>55839760
Yes. What else could I possibly mean on a smg thread?

>>55839736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti7Isv_Jf-M

back to 4500, then we pump

>Sweden's core inflation at 8% after almost two years of insanely high inflation
>Lower than expected normal inflation because of lower electricity prices that are now rising again
>Higher food prices, higher gas prices, higher rent prices
Please, someone nuke just nuke this country to hell. Never ever have I met with a more sheep-like naive and dumb people. I mean, this is good for stocks though since we all know inflation is bullish but living here is hell

>>55839854
huh imagine that, when your country produces almost nothing on its own and also has a generous welfare system, money becomes worthless

>>55839883
Karl ove Knausgaard was right.
>>55839854
But I feel bad for you guys. Maybe some of these struggles will make people make a hard right turn, not into fascism or anything, just back to some traditional values. You don't invite too many immigrants because it fucks up your nationhood, point blank. You don't give people free welfare because it makes people lazy as shit and devalues your printed money.

This was all an experiment

>>55839016
kek! they might. they might not.

>>55839316
Amazon is just a growing ball of business that use favorable cash flow rate in retail to invest in progitable ventures like AWS, advertizing and kindle. Amazon will be the omnicompany and the only large tech cap that knows how to mantain real sustained growth

>>55839883
>generous welfare system
This time, I'd say this is a non-critical factor. The money supply increased by almost 50% since Covid, people re-finansing mortgages at low rates, and general greed making everyone insanely bullish and inflationary. Greed has overtaken everything.
The insanely weak currency also lends a helping hand to the inflation since Sweden pretty much has to import everything. There is an abundant export of electricity though (of course... why would you have cheap electricity for your own people and limit export? Nah fugg that, let's giga-export and leave our people high and dry).
Of course though, the central bank has most of its reserves in foreign currency (dollars and euros) so naturally their reservoir keeps growing. They even try to play with the statistics and instead of focusing on the real inflation, they subtract rates since they deem them to be " a volatile factor that should not be included in the calculation of inflation". Just what in fegg? Rates that massively affect especially Sweden which is the most indebted industrial country in the world and with the highest mortgages... and the rates ain't included in inflation calculations because that would make the inflation look bad? This country is a joke.
>>55839926
>just back to some traditional values
Sweden doesn't have any traditions though and nor has it ever been traditional. But at least the high inflation and weak currency means big export companies will make a ton of cash. Since Sweden exports massively to the USA and Germany, the strong dollar should provide a nice boost to earnings. Hmm, sounds bullish to me

>>55839632
I know there are at least 2 more of us.

>>55839854
Sweden stock down and I closed my shorts right in the first minute, FFS. what the fuck was that retard drop

>>55839962
>>55839854
Should have nuked it and shorted more before open.

>>55839794
>Zips cock back in.

Give a reason not to long virgin!
Literally the incel choice

>fupas -0.0001%

>>55839982
Dilution

>>55839993
Priced in

MY god this this is such a piece of shit market. PUMPs unreasonably, crashes back down, and later we pump again I have to assume. so fuckin stupid.

ho look we sell like mofo

And I said it here. DAX looks exactly like that, a fuckin bear flag.

??????????????? Guys???

What is the play here, fellow EUbros? I am getting really sick of fagjannnies and this EU market. The US market seems substantially better and honestly less retarded. Maybe some US-targeted funds? I think I am gonna sell it all, go into big banks and big export (mainly to the US) and some US funds. This is just not fun anymore. This market is just too stupid

But how is it getting trashed this hard AGAIN? How can anybody not assume this isn't just a money making machine?

>>55840017
>He's still trying to trade based on logic.

The whole thing is AI generated
>Public buys the algos pull the rug
>Public sell the algos buy the dip

AI should be barren from the stock market but so should boomers in government in crypto kikes with insider knowledge but here we are on a fake and gay more sophisticated for of slot machines.
All you got to do is find a successful Twitter account who trades and literally buy everything they buy and sell, only faggot's with insider knowledge will make it cus the whole thing is absurdly fake and fucking gay

>>55840029
I don't think robinigger 24hr market prices are too much to worry about. Come 8am it'll bounce back

BUY DA DIP!!!!!!

Uhhh, I don't think bond yields are supposed to spike that quickly.

...aa my wAAYY MUUUMUuu fuu...

I can't take this schizo market anymore. The two last weeks were worse than this bullrun bullshit.

>>55840043
>>55840042
SIRS!! BUY SPY STOCK!

DEPLOY THE PPT!!!!
Cmon stock marines

I think Biden finally killed the golden goose with these Trump indictments. The markets are going to start treating us like a third world shithole if we start acting like a third world shithole. It's over.

>>55840042
I chose the wrong time to buy TMF oh fuck

good morning sers

>Russia’s central bank on Tuesday hiked interest rates by 350 basis points to 12% at an emergency meeting, as Moscow looks to halt a rapid depreciation of the country’s ruble currency.

This market is the DOGE meme, the strong and the whiny one. One day strong one day shits itself.

SSSSSSSLUUUURP WHAT A TASTY DIP

Mumu..

You just fuckin know this will be up later. DAX back at 15950 at the end of the day. It's so fuckin annoying to have to expect a crash EVERY fuckin day.

>start acting like a third world shithole

>>55840100
>>55840090
Great entry price boys back up the trucks!

another day of europoors shitting the bed

For months China was irrelevant. And when there was bad news it was
>STIMULUS STIMULUS
Now there is stimulus (rate cuts in china) and we crash
The uninverting yield curve/rate cut meme is real. I'm shorting more. Being cautious is a mistake, nuke this fuckin market.

Jesus fuck, look at yields. The entire fucking financial system is going to collapse.

I finallh made it, and I hope some of you do to.

I had typed a character limit post, well thought out and not too condescending toward those that haven't made it like I have... but then for some reason my mouse glitched out and deleted my very favorable opinion of you people. Nuh uh, I hope you non-jewish people get a big ol bag of whatever it is you are looking for. I just wanted to prove to myself that I could.

j/k I fucking hope every last one of you end up dead in the worst way, but just a little worse than twitter or reddit users.

>>55840073
Western Mongolia's currency will keep crashing and entrr into a hyperinflationary loop. Glorious cylce

EXTRA EXTRA
IT'S OVER

A credit event is coming.

how does one join the civilian psyop militia?

>>55840150
I just saw that and came here to post it. Clown world's market is actually funny.

so what exactly happened 45 mins ago ?

Guys plz buy the dip? I don't deserve to make 10k+ tomorrow

>>55840150
>homebuilder stocks
has warren buffet finally gone senile? they have squeezed every last drop of moisture from that market.

>>55840172
EU woke up

>>55840172
China became relevant again, 5 hours after the news.

This bullshit only happens in bearmarkets. Bullmarket goes up in a fuckin straight line but when we go down we do this fuckin up and down moves where you can never tell when it crashes again

>>55840188
What about 2021?

>>55840193
Did it go up like we are going down currently?

Dr. Copper crashing with no survivors. Recession imminent (except US). Should have sold. I am an idiot. Thanks for playing :)

I wanna be a nigger and buy that $15k bottle of hennessey, but only if I can subvert and retain an audience long enough for them to understand how much I hate jews and niggers.

I NEED a play that can make one thousand dollars into one million dollars. I see no other way out. I NEED IT SO FUCKING BAD BROS WHAT THE FUCK

>>55840198
Yes but it's not my point, my point is there were plenty of sharp dips, mostly around monthly opex.

I just bought my first NVDA stock, goddamn it feels good to be rich. You fucking losers are talking about puts and gay sex and shit. I just won! Booyah niggaz dumb faggots.

baking

>>55840209
>monthly
This shit here is happening daily.

baked
>>55840222
>>55840222
>>55840222
>>55840222

in 7 hours we're probably at 4500 again cause this market is retarded.

>>55840228
imagine having the latency to trade commodities

>>55840175
They're all senile, shit I am almost 2 full generations away from this faggots and I already have Gray's growing out my ass hole.
Is incredible the amount of corruption cowards from the United States are willing to put up just to not get in the spot light, any other country would have been already cleaning the guillotines

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Aliens UFO DID 911 TRUTH
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i got the news early