/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55814354
>"for ukraine"
they pay themselves and then give the debt to Ukraine. The money is used to buy US equipment aka hand over a bunch of military materiel that needs to get used, thus giving $24B to Military Industrial Complex contractors along with another $24B in "you own us" that they can hang over Ukraine (with interest, of course) for the next hundred years.
Good scam!

>>55814354
draining the coffers and taxpayer money before they start the mass famine and genocide, check em.

>>55814377
Oh fuck I was right.

>>55814354
...are they trying to double the debt ceiling again?

>>55814367
Yes another reason the hohols have to hope russia wins
Because otherwise they are ethernal debt slaves

>>55814354
that "news outlet" must like him
they've shown a pic where the old buzzard looks moderately coherent

>>55814559
That's Reuters. It's basically owned by the Rothschild.
>>55814354
Doesn't sleepyjoes family own oil companies in Ukraine or some shit?

More dead Russian soldiers, based

>>55814629
Good morning Rabbi

>>55814354
Military-industrial Chads WAGMI

>>55814354
Cheap price for a proxy war to kick in Russia.
Worth it.

>>55814738
And why would you proxy war russia again?
For lgbqtrgs?

Remember what we’re fighting for, zog marines

>>55814796
She has the face of a man

>>55814568
>It's basically owned by the Rothschild
Timely reminder that the rothchilds setup the zionist federation that directly triggered the persecution of jews during the second World War.

>>55814800
He has the face of a woman.

>>55814804
Yes the Ashkenazi overlords will sacrifice everyone in their tribe to complete their satanic goals, is this news to you?

>>55814800
high cheek bones, man bones even

>>55814354
Seriously, who the fuck supports this? I've yet to get a "real person" answer about why this is a good thing. Nobody even bothers to try and convince the American people that this is a good thing. Everyone just accepts that it's happening. What the fuck is going on?

If you ask "why the fuck is our government doing this," every response seems to fall into two camps:
1) The terminally online, uncanny-valley weird responses that immediately get very upset about anyone questioning billions of unaudited US dollars printed & sent to a Foreign Government, call you a Russian shill while literally shilling a foreign war; or
2) The "dude who cares lmao" normie NPC responses that just accept getting cucked because they probably voted for Biden and are too embarrassed at this point to pay attention to what's going on (ironically these are the types that are the most obedient when the media tells them to go do race riots)

Are the American people going to start caring?

>>55814796
What if Sara pulls a bud light on jewkraine?

>>55814830
Are you fucking retarded? Why do you think the US military exists, it exists to kill Russians and Chinese people. We have the opportunity to kill Russians without actually sacrificing our own people. We get to destroy one of our main adversaries with no loss of life of our own. You hang out with a bunch of other retards, the American people support this because it's so fucking obviously a good deal. Spend a fraction of our defense budget to fight Russia with no American lives lost. It's a fucking Golden egg. Fuck Russia, Fuck China and fuck you hippie faggot. USA USA USA USA USA. More dead Russians!

>>55814858
>1) The terminally online, uncanny-valley weird responses that immediately get very upset about anyone questioning billions of unaudited US dollars printed & sent to a Foreign Government, call you a Russian shill while literally shilling a foreign war; or

If we decapitate Russia, this century continues to be American.

>>55814858
>deranged mutt appears
>"we"

>>55814860
>the hippie commie faggot
Go cry for Ho Chi Mihn you Jane Fonda wanna be

>>55814873
>le concerned American tax payers appears
Youre not fooling anyone vatnik

>>55814830
you want Russia to be defeated don't you??

but seriously, there's no reasoning with this shitshow clown world. if you try to fight back, they'll say it's the January 6th holocaust. We're in a clown dictatorship.

>>55814867
It funny how they walked right into our Ukraine trap thus guaranteeing another American century, all Russia had to do was not chimp out, and NATO probably would have falled apart on its own. Now united and stronger then ever

>>55814874
>>55814876
>>55814884
Pollocks always stand out like knee grow in Korea

>>55814858
>>55814874
Can't tell if you're trolling because you're doing EXACTLY what I outlined in my post. You sound like a bizarre paid shill. You don't even try to make coherent points or make an argument. "It's an obvious good deal because... because it just is!"

Wow, I'm sure convinced now you fucking glownigger. You're raging, getting your blood pressure up and getting cheeto crumbs everywhere but you've done fuckall to convince me that sending 30 billion USD to a foreign country is a good idea. Try again, retard.

>>55814354
>>55814377

oh no 24 billion dollars that's what like 3-5% of our whole military budget being paid to guys who are willing to vent Russian garbage for us so we're not having to fight their bylatkreig in Poland and risk a nuclear war.
Every cent we've given Ukraine has been worth it. Moreso than the trillions we blew dying for Israel in the middle east. This war is absolutely gutting Russia as a credible threat without costing us any human resources. Yes Ukraine is even more fucked than Russia but Russia put them in this position of choosing genocide by assimilation or turning their stark demographic decline into an even starker one. At least they're returning the favor.

>BBBUT RUSSIA IS BASED DEFENDER OF CHRIST
It's a godless country destroyed by Bolshevism with some leaders who larp, that's all. More Russians are aborted than are born. Russia is a postapocalyptic shithole scorned by God.
>BBUT UKRAINE ZELENSKY JEW
Putin is a racial Jew. Russia's oligarch class is full of yids even moreso than Ukraine's.
Russia is just ZOG B. Whole thing is an Essau gambit but there is nothing valuable left in homo sovieticus so the more that are killed the better.

>>55814926
I gave you plenty of good points, the US gets to defeat one of its long term adversaries, for a fraction of its defense budget and with no loss of American lives, funny how you gloss over that like a bizarre paid shill. 30 billion is nothing compared to what the US spent in Afganistan and Iraq and we weren't even fighting Russia there, that was just a fucking side show. The US has never got a ROI this great before on war spending.

>>55814928
>>55814938
Your shekels just posted to your FedNow wallet

>>55814928
>>55814938

These fucking shill division glowies doing overtime.

>>55814945
>Your rubles have been posted to your account
Or maybe not, maybe your are a Russia cum guzzling Serbian and you do it for free

>>55814952
>raise excellent points
>You... you guys are just shills

>I'm supposed to care about billions when the government at all levels and our society in general is wasting trillions in both current spending and future prosperity

You could get me to agree if you went with the foreign entanglements route but you polfags are brainlets.

>>55814938
>gets to defeat one of its long term adversaries

What the fuck are you talking about? In what way are we "defeating" them? Why do I give a fuck about that? Are Russians attacking Americans? Killing Americans somewhere? No? Then what the FUCK are you talking about you fucking glownigger?

>30 billion is nothing compared to what the US spent in Afganistan and Iraq

I don't want another Afghanistan or Iraq you fucking idiot, that's a terrible point. And we've sent a LOT more than 30 billion to Ukraine already, this is just the latest request! And it won't be the last either. And even the money that was spent/wasted in Afghanistan/Iraq was at least for OUR TROOPS, not some fucking foreign country's politicians and grunts that we have no fucking relation to at all

>The US has never got a ROI this great before on war spending

ROI on war spending. Listen to this fucking glowie. Get the fuck out of here. Your points all fucking suck you fucking Lockheed Martin tranny.

>>55814969
>soviet-era superpower getting wrecked by drone enthusiasts and gypsies using tractors
>"long term adversary"
Your points are retarded.

>>55814858
This.

>y-you're getting a good ROI on your war spending by giving money to a bunch of random corrupt Eastern European politicians and generals

this guy came in here and thought this was a good point. Even if Ukraine was winning this war, which they're objectively not, this is the stupidest fucking argument I've ever seen. It's as if he thinks Ukraine is some extension of the United States. Bizarre

>>55815014
Well, no one gives a shit about "Ukraine" or any other shithole. We just want to see Slawes suffer, Its a win-win if both sides loose men, actually. We will buy up cheap shit after this is done.

>>55815024
Why does this little Jewish midget shill his war like it's an investment opportunity? It's so fucking weird.

>Well, no one gives a shit about "Ukraine" or any other shithole. We just want to see Slawes suffer

No, actually. I don't give a shit about Ukraine or Russia. I'd prefer not to poke a nuclear power though or back them into a corner. Seems like a bad idea to any sane person.

>>55815037
Thats why you will always stay poor. Faggot.

>>55814858
>our adversaries
You mean the giga rich Jews and their Allie’s who run the country. Russia and China are not “our” enemies you absolute fucking retard cattle.

>>55815046
why are all you shills so hotheaded? must be an Eastern European thing

Is killing a generation of young Russian men worth it for Americans? Will the investment pay off?

>>55814999
>>55815001
Russia is America's adversary whether or not you Jane Fonda hippie commie faggots think so or not. The Russia military, tanks, infantry, artillery, IFVs are all being destroyed every day for the whole world to see, the the whole world is better for it. And not a single American life is lost but lots of Russia lives are lost! we give them shit we were going to replace anyways. So it's a big win-win for the US. Like I said, for a fraction of the US defense budget. Great deal, amazing deal for us.

>>55815037
Would you rather a Nuclear power do what ever the fuck it wants with no repercussions you weak cuck?

>>55815079
>you weak cuck

Why are you LARPing like you're the one fighting over there you stupid faggot? As if supporting a war makes you a soldier LMAO. You keep shilling this war like it's an investment opportunity. You have hatred for a country that you've probably never been to, you probably don't know a soul from that country, and you're just spewing stale retarded propoganda like some sort of paid shill.

Tell me about this recent counteroffensive. Tell me how successful it has been. Tell me what areas Ukraine has taken back from Russia. Give me details about where my tax dollars are going. Since you love to talk about all this destruction, give me a USD amount/per russian tank destroyed.

You can't do any of that because you're a pathetic LARPing shill. Kill yourself.

>>55815056
You are laughing.
I make money.
Fair enough.

>>55815052
I cannot fathom an existence worse then living in a Chinese or Russian led world, the US isn't perfect by any means but it is far superior to what the mongoloids have to offer. So yes they are "our" adversaries, you chink cattle

>>55815070
>it’s a win for the US
How is any of this benefiting the average American citizen faggot? Keep up the patriotic bullshit for a country that actively discriminates against its core population. Glownigger

>>55814884
>and NATO probably would have falled apart on its own
This is another shill line
>muh epic mistake haha
If russia did nothing Nato would only become stronger and Ukraine integrated into it and Russia would look very weak.

>>55815070
Holy based. Russia is losing kek

>>55815014
>>55815037
It seems your guys haven't really made much gains lately in Ukraine. Getting a little worried your lord and savior Putin wasn't the 5d chess mastermind you were brainwashed to believe he was? To be honest I'm kinda hoping they bump that 30 billion to 300 billion just to annoy gullible retards like you lmao. Easily worth it.

>>55815105
Couldnt care less about NPCs.
They deserve everything they get.

>>55815108
You mean like how NATO is stronger with Finland and every member increasing defense spending? Hate to tell you this but Finland is far better then getting Ukraine

>>55815094
I really don't care if Ukraine gets its territory back, just as long as they keep blowing up Russias shit. I've seen enough destroyed Russian vehicles and all the rotting Russian corpses to know every dollar has been worth it. Again, with no loss of American lives, but lots of dead Russians.

>>55815105
It's benefiting me, the average LMT investor

>>55815102
Hey look it’s the faggot fed Richard Spencer

>>55815145
>Names some literally who pol e-celeb like it means anything
Grabbing at straws here vatnik shills, but I get it, still early in Moscow

>>55814858
I wonder (((who))) could possibly be behind this post...

>>55814858
Based

>>55814926
You're talking to a jew, anon.

>>55815188
If you are implying that some jews make money out of this.
Absolutely.
I am jewish and a make A LOT of money out of this while you redneck hippie commie scum ass sits in your rundown trailer wasting your worthless life with goyslop and TV shows.
However some other guys use this oppertunity and they are white, black, yellow and red.
After all it comes down to the survival of the fittest. And that wont be (You).

>>55815211
Checked for outing yourself as a dirty yid. I'm not stupid, I also gain from this war financially speaking, but I don't support it because we shouldn't be blowing up white people. We should be blowing up niggers and (((fellow whites))) instead as it would actually be productive.

>>55815253
Ukis and russkies are not white.
Only the US (and Wallstreet) matters.
Seethe more, poorfaggot.

>>55815211
>I am Jewish
lmao and you like sociopathic greed and other people committing violence on your behalf. Really bucking the stereotype there, anon.

>>55815276
Hadn't been a problem in iraq and afghanistan.
Why are you complaining now?

>>55815264
You're not white. I'm not poor either. The day of rope is coming, kike.

>>55814544
this

>>55815289
>I'm not poor
poorfag cope

>>55814354
I wish they cared in the same way about poor countries like Africa, but I guess it's ok, at least now we can say that some of our money is used to help in the war and not just on AI stuff like SHIBART (in my case)

>>55815024
>We

>>55815211
>I am jewish
Oh you admitted it ok, well it was obvious anyway
>Only the US (and Wallstreet) matters.
Lol

>>55815289
>le ebin day of rope!
No its not by and large people don't know anything about the jews other than muh holocaust. 4chan is an echo chamber and widely regarded as extremist by plebs so most of the sentiment shared here is a fart in the wind.

>>55815405
don't worry anon, they'll care about africa very soon. Niger in particular.

>>55814544
Just like the Taiwanese

>>55814858
>Why do you think the US military exists
To give infinite funding to the military industrial complex.

>>55814938
30 Billion is just this week's bill, mutto. You're already down 200 just for this year kek. And, unlike Iraq, where the weakness of the terrorists made your investments and equipment relatively safe, everything you're sending to Ukraine is turning into molten slag.
There is no return on investment whatsover.
Just losses at the most inopportune of times.

>>55814354
Ukraine is basically a corruption laundromat at this point.

The reality of Ukraine:

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1690127091021279232

>>55814858
As a finn i can only thank you. Russians have once again proven to be bloodthirsty savages, wanting only to enslave and rape people around them. Both Finland and Sweden look forward to increased cooperation with USA on all sectors. May we build a more prosperous, more advanced Western block.

>>55815940
>As a finn i can only thank you. Russians have once again proven to be bloodthirsty savages, wanting only to enslave and rape people around them. Both Finland and Sweden look forward to increased cooperation with USA on all sectors. May we build a more prosperous, more advanced Western block.

>>55814354
24 billion is tiny. A laughable nothingburger.
Thread on why the US already won: https://twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1568614745284005892

>>55814858
The US military exists to enrich weapons manufacturers, global corporate entities, and the politicians that facilitate the funding of it in exchange for bribes.

>>55814367
>Good scam!
Considering i own DoD stock companies why would i care unless I was russian?
>>55815037
>Why does this little Jewish midget shill his war like it's an investment opportunity
>business and finance board
Kek you can always see the tourists in a thread.

>>55815284
It was a problem then also and 4chan was typical antiwar early 2000s types when it was happening.

>>55816009
>24 billion is tiny. A laughable nothingburger.
>Thread on why the US already won: https://twitter.com/gummibear737/status/1568614745284005892

>>55814858
No one under the age of 60 cares about the Russian boogeyman because we're not senile. This is sportsball level tribalism but with human loss of life

>>55814354
So many Amerigoys ITT. Even worse are the Eurocucks begging for BIG AMERICAN COCK to save their pathetic ass.

>>55815940
Like this piece of trash. KYS cumgurgling faggot.

>>55814354
2% of the military budget?

Imagine your only suppliers being North Korea and fucking Iran
Russia is such a shithole lmao

>>55814354
Western Mongolia's collapse would be the biggest geopolitical victory of the US since the fall of the Soviet Union. Any dollar spent on the war is a hefty return for America and its empire

>>55814830
I've entered the apathy stage. Some good people could change things, but I have no doubt they'd be killed like JFK. I think it's too late.

Any dollar spent fucking with Ruscrement and the Manlet of Muscovy is a dollar well spent. I am personally writing Zelensky a check.

>>55814858
Is this satire or real? Kek, perfect example of camp number 1 outlined in the post you replied to.

>>55815079
This is precisely the world we already live in, and have lived in for your whole life.

>>55814858

>>55814858
American people =/= faggots in the DC bubble. Everyone in DC is either a jogger, fag, jew, jewish fag, troon, or woman.
>>55814874
>increasingly deranged outdated insults
The boomers aren't sending their best folks.

>>55814858
i am armatard

>>55815070
Russia hasn't shown any hostility towards the US at all and it has not threatened the US once in the past twenty years. On the contrary though, Russia has been trying to have more fair trade with the US for long time, but the US narrative is Russia le bad for reasons.

>this is what american taxpayers have to fund

>>55814354
Based as fuck. Another 24 billion dollars to kill Russians with.

>>55815455
The US already knows that Taiwan will fall to China. Why do you think we're importing the entirety of TSMC? Literally the most important part of Taiwan is their microprocessor manufacturing sector. If we steal all their talent and hardware, it won't matter if Taiwan goes back to China.

>>55814858
Glow harder

>>55814354
Why are we wasting bullets on Slavs? Their lives surely arent worth it. This war should be fought with sticks.

>Dems voting for and loving endless wars
What the fuck happened?

>>55815121
Germany lost its economy and the EU is in shambles with manufacturing drying up and losing its territory and influence in africa and Asia
>BUT WE HAVE FINLAND NOW!

You gave up 2 continents for fucking Finland

>>55816429
>HAHA NORTH KOREA IS A PARIAH STATE THEY CAN'T TRADE WITH ANYONE
>IRAN AND NORTH KOREA ARE NOW PARIAH STATES AND ARE COMPLETELY ISOLATED, WE WON!
>RUSSIA NORTH KOREA AND IRAN ARE NOW ONLY ABLE TO TRADE WITH EACH OTHER, THE WORLD HAS SPOKEN WE WON
Let me guess what's next
>CHINA, RUSSIA, NIGER, IRAN, NORTH KOREA, SOUTH AFRICA, BRAZIL, HUNGARY, KAZAKHSTAN, AND THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST CAN ONLY TRADE BETWEEN THEMSELVES. ITS FUCKING OVER FOR THEM. SANCTIONS BROS HAVE OFFICIALLY WON

The low IQ arguments that need to be repeated on every board are stating to become unhinged, getting to the point where negative actions and missteps are now touted are heroic victories

>>55814354
It's just a matter of time until (you) get drafted to secure this investment. Same annoying story as WW2. As soon as the jews realize, that their investments are lost if the US doesn't intervene, it's your sons and daughters that go die in the Eastern Ukrainian dirt to secure the investment

>>55820379
Nothing, the current potus and administration is just not the outsider that was Trump

>>55815912
it is keeping those pesky auditors, investigative journalists and russians out the innumerable ukrainian shell company books. the shell companies used by the elite world over. the ROI is significant.

>>55820684
If the Russians role over Ukraine and finally take off the gloves, that investment is gone, unless American sons and daughters get thrown into the mix

>>55814354
DAS RITE

>>55814804
>the persecution of jews during the second World War.
When are you religious nut jobs going to stop perpetuating this nonsense?

Russia and china will beat usa and israel

>>55821480
>simping for commies
You should KYS.

>>55820696
>If the Russians role over Ukraine
How fucking stupid are you? Western Mongolia can barely hold what they alredy have

>>55820551
>Germany lost its economy
Germany's economy is unironically 100 years more advanced than Western Mongolia's. How fucking dumb are you?

>>55818144
>Russia hasn't shown any hostility towards the US at all
Are you fucking retarded? Western Mongolia has been hostile to the US since 2007 because they wanted to rebuild the Mongolian empire and conquer half of Europe to transform it into a shithole

Bananaman bad.

>>55815455
The US doesn't supply the Taiwanese though. Most their military technology is old US stuff (tanks and artillery as the thought process is it'll be to deter an amphibious assault meaning modernization is fairly irrelevant) or domestically manufactured like the majority of their airforce (because they're worried that the international community mightn't supply them after the recognition of the PRC by the UN).

>>55818144
>Russia hasn't shown any hostility towards the US
Yeah because their military sucks so they're definitely not going to be aggressive to the US in any way if they can help it, it's the smaller nations they've been fucking up that got NATO scared as well as the ex warsaw pact countries that hate Russia for the entire Communist rule and violent repression by the USSR.

>>55820551
>Germany lost its economy
It's contracted 0.5%. Probably will be bigger but that's still only half a percent.

>>55815405
The US usually gives about $55 billion per year to Africa in foreign aid.

>>55821586
>simping for jews

>>55818232
Nobody is falling for your 1ip spam astroturfing

>crypto market is crabbing what feels like an eternity
>/biz/s lowest posting metrics in history
>/biz/ basically becomes /pol/ just with even clearer consensus on what's what and who's doing what

Feels good

>>55814367
It is truly a genius system, particularly since it continues to cement US dominancy over the world which continues to prop up the dollar.

>>55821862

>>55814830
>Seriously, who the fuck supports this?

Leftists.

>>55814796
I can't belive this is the hill Ukrainians want to die on

>>55815037
>Why does this little Jewish midget shill his war like it's an investment opportunity? It's so fucking weird.

Here in Romania our (((gov))) is pushing ppl using commercials to "invest in the Ukraine". The narrative is that once they defeat the Russians you'll get a return on your investment after the country is rebuilt. I'm serious this isn't a joke. To add insult to injury the commercials are paid for using taxpayer money and the commercial firms are owned by politicians.

>>55815938
>https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1690127091021279232
TLDW on the video.

>>55816429
You do realize BRICS is the largest economic force on the planet right? They have all the resources and most of the manufacturing.

>>55814858
you have a good point, I know it because all of the angry bot replies to it by the the actual JIDF

>>55814928
absolutely based, fuck putler

>>55822668
They are poor and just can not consume like we do.

The reason why we wasted 20 years in the middle east and now we have the vet suicide is because a bunch of Republicans baby boomers were in a pissing match with progressive boomers. I see that now with culture war pissing over Ukraine bucks, and the whole anti-vax drama. I now have returning memories of boomers trying to argue that water boarding is not torture.

>>55822904
>water boarding is not torture
You are right - it is not.

>>55822924
Americans were torturing Spanish troops in the Spanish American war with the 'water cure' in the same area they were waterboarding a bunch of Muslims a few generations later.

>>55822875
But they have what we need

>>55822945
"Torturing" muslims is pretty based if you ask me.
>>55822990
They need customers that give them US dollars.

>>55822668
48% of the world population barely beats 4% of the world population

War is ok when Republicans do it

>>55814367
Look at the temporarily embarrassed defense industry executive right here

>>55823017
Still not dying for Israel nafofag

>>55814367
Lol just like Afghanistan teehee!! Americans just can’t stop winning :)

>>55814938
>with no loss of American lives
Because there’s no longer any Americans left to fight. The country is comprised of Chinese spies, Indian grifters, black communists, unemployed Latinos. We have to make Ukrainians do our fighting because we are still suffering the death toll of white genocide here in the US

>>55814354
It’s like paying for all our other constant wars but some other country fights for us. This is a good deal for what Americans are used to.