/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55799795
No

>>55799795
haven't you heard? it's about UPS delivery services now
get with the times

>>55799844
yeah, but what can brown do for me?

>>55799795
Kill women

>>55799795
Fucking stupid hooker

Analyst jobs are still needed so yeah

>>55799795
just buy all this plastic shit and you'll love working from home! also look at my butt in these jaaans

>>55799795
Yes, but not as a primary job. "Programmer" is like "scribe". Ironically, while the job-market for programmers is shit, the knowledge of how to use computers in general is also being lost in wider society.

>>55799874
She's just opening her laptop in a neat, womanly way. But it's interesting how enraged we get at the mere sight of a woman doing anything.

>>55799795
fucking bitch computers are my hobby MY HOBBY, YOU RUINED IT YOU FUCKING BITCH REEEEEE EVERYTHING IT POZZED NOW LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE YOU DUMB CUNT AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>stuck on this code for a week.

Jesus she doesn't even know how to program. Life on easy mode.

>>55799795
no coding is saturated and now it's no better than any other boring white collar job, salaries have returned back to reality and most people are back in the $60k range

But the new in thing is being a UPS driver yeah, it's been all over the news. Soon those policies will likely infect fedEx and Amazon drivers as well so ironically get ready for "learn2CDL" very soon. I mean 200k TC for driving jobs is incredible. Amazon will absolutely try to one up UPS to attract drivers over there so I can see them going 200k TC

>>55800685
I was going to take a driving job but they le pee test for le marijuana. in other words they only hire black people who fake the tests.

>>55800666
Not a single woman in my CS degree could code. They all cheated and grifted their way through. They all landed jobs because of muh diversity.

>>55800086
its more like code monkey = secretary / typist

computer scientist or engineer = writer

The first is always shit, the second, the best ones are actually creating new stuff

>>55800093
>mere sight of a woman doing anything
didnt tho
never do

>>55799795
learn2code was intentionally oversaturated by the large tech companies like google/ibm/microsoft/etc as a way to drive wages down and limit your bargaining power for a pay raise. you are now just another dispensable statistic to them since they now have hundreds of thousands of other half literate codemonkeys to choose from. you are just a stopgap until they have ai capable enough to competently do this job, and that will be done once the hundreds of thousands of half literate code monkeys keep pumping in their curriculum into their LLMs and teaching it for free. you can still get a job as a secretary or maybe a data analyst but unless you are an actual coding wizard who has been doing it since he was like 5 years old and has a firm understanding of math you dont stand a chance of getting a job as a software enginner/developer.

>>55800740
True enough, though there's still the problem of the labor market being squeezed by AI. Even if it takes away only, say, 10% of the market, that's an upward pressure: the junior admit writing scripts tries to become a Java programmer, the Java programmer tries to be come a tech lead, the tech lead tries to get into academia. It's like pushing a spring down.

>>55799795
>thousands of tech layoffs
>all of the "day in the life!" tiktokers have since been fired
>DEI hiring "being restructured" at many companies
>even experienced and skilled senior level SWEs are being told there just isn't headcount for them
>many programmers are branching into different fields to find work
>record levels of CS graduates and growing year over year
>is it still worth it?

No, skilled developers are struggling to find work, and more and more kids keep graduating with CS degrees to continually dilute the pool of potential employees. If I were a kid now I would get into finance or medicine.

>>55799795
No, AI shit like ChatGPT will eventually replace all codefags, better learn to be an electrician, lumberjack or homesmith

>>55800712
Found the nigger

>>55799795
that pets extension for VSCode actually looks pretty dope desu.

Society has collapsed.

>>55799795
>meme display
>meme desk
>söybook pro
>vscode
>does fuck all
4/10 bait

>>55801163
That the gayest shit ive ever heard.

>>55799795

To get a job ? No, fortune 500 faggots who used to pull 200k/year doing essentially monkey work are being laid off so pajeets with Ph.Ds can do the same work for 20k year or less.

For the knowledge and potentially building your own ideas ? Yes it's worth it.

>>55799874
non-europeans*

>>55799795
yes OP ^.^ lets learn together
post your discord im spinning up leetcode rn

>>55799795

What's up with that comedically large monitor?

Yes, learn to code as a second skill in a non-tech industry and apply it in practical solutions to your problems. Chat-GPT and a fundamentally solvable challenges being completed have fucking rocket boosted my career

>>55799795
now that the entire bizraeli crab colony has told you no, you should know the real answer

>>55799795
If ikea were a personality

>>55800840
>>thousands of tech layoffs
>>all of the "day in the life!" tiktokers have since been fired
>>DEI hiring "being restructured" at many companies
>>even experienced and skilled senior level SWEs are being told there just isn't headcount for them
>>many programmers are branching into different fields to find work
>>record levels of CS graduates and growing year over year
>>is it still worth it?
Buy low sell high. This is career advice.

>>55801691
This. Always do the opposite of what /biz/ says.

>>55800685
>salaries have returned back to reality and most people are back in the $60k range
LMAO

>>55799795
I wonder what problem she was stuck on for a week at the end. Probably getting webpack working.

>>55800093
maybe because genuine women dont exist? they are the most fake and deceiving creatures on this planet

>>55799795
nah, AI got that

>>55800830
Moving up that ladder is different than just hitting buy on a shitcoin. It takes real skill, and the fact is that only 0.1% of the population can pull off being a principal software engineer. It takes hard and soft skills, and generally just being experienced in how business works.
People on the first handful of rungs likely will just not be able to climb further up, and the AI tsunami will wash them away. The true talent will remain, and rake in fat wads of cash while slowly replacing themselves with better and better AI, until it's good enough to replace them too. At that point though, we're post-information. The only thing that matters then is capital ownership.

>>55799795
>actually
>guys
>this thing
>obviously
why does every fucking asshole talk like this nowadays? shut the fuck up bitch!

>>55801809
kek

It's just a manlet turned tranny guys, women can't code we all know this.

>>55801903
>Moving up that ladder is different than just hitting buy on a shitcoin.
It is, but don't try to look at it as some shitcoin buyer jumping straight to principal engineer. Everyone only has to move up a single rung: the team lead is maybe not the most-qualified product owner, but the people below him are overrunning the field, so he tries to move up one rung, and maybe he'll be an ok product owner.
There are people who can't even move up one rung, that's true too, but there are many who can. It's like a sinking island: when the water comes, some people can't make it from the shore to the forest, but the forests still get more cramped. People then start fleeing from the forests into the hills too, and now it's even more cramped. At each turn, some people who aren't immediately threatened by the waters still also choose to migrate upward: some maybe from the forest to the hills straight away, and maybe some people in the hillside to the mountain, just at the sight of seeing others fleeing in their direction.

>>55799795
just cut it. if you got to ask it here then you're probably too stupid to properly learn it anyway.

>>55799795
would

>>55799795

Depends on the area you want to work in.

Web development? Lmao, good luck earning more than a gas station attendant.

Mobile dev? Still pretty shit.

Enterprise software? Decent

Data science? Still gold imo, and will be for years to come.

Luckily you actually need some math skills for the last one, don't ever need to be worried about code monkeys jumping in and saturating my niche.

>>55799795
No.

>>55800850
math flunkie cope

>>55800093
it's the way she's doing it that's annoying.

>>55800093
>sight of a woman doing anything
I'd love to see a woman actually doing something

>>55799795
what a materialistic little parasite. Why cant girls control their little stupid urges?
>and if you point it out, they dont get mad because they know its true.

>>55803387
Fat women smell like cheese and shit iphone spammer.

>>55801251
Seems like Senior level security researcher jobs are safe for now. No pajeet can do my job for 15 grand a year in Hyderabad remotely.

>>55799795
Women are the ultimate cooonsooomers

Wyhat a bunch of useless shit

>>55803429
found the fucking whore.

>>55799795
>tryna
disgusting

>>55803047
I've never needed math in my 10 year career. Just import the python library. My PhD is for title alone.

learn to code as a skill to do whatever you currently do better, if you interact in any way with a computer for your job then you can find a way to automate or otherwise generally do your own job better. From an outsider perspective of tech it also seems like you can skate by pretty easily knowing the most basic shit about databases and ETL and make a pretty fat buck just building reporting for boomer small-business especially in manufacturing.