/biz/ - Business & Finance

I said I'll only go back 3 days if they give me a pay rise and they did it and now I'm stuck and can't be fucked finding a new job with this pay.
I'm hoping crypto moons soon and this is my last job

>>55779524
I need to work indoors because of my security clearance

>>55779524
I was working full remote for 6 months before covid. Before that it was 3-4 days remote. I do miss the early days where you could get your work done so early and just play games and smoke all day. 15+ min idle timers.

Mainstream wfh ruined so much though. 5 min teams idle. Stupid video chats. For awhile I was using socket extension on my ctrl key and just stay green all day. Clearly wasn't an issue since most of my team got let go and I'm still here lol.

It's been years since I've been in the office idk how I will be able to do it ever again.

>>55779524
I have one. It's true what you say, but the pay is shit.

I do the codingz at home.

>>55779671
I got a mouse jiggler on Amazon so I never go idle. It was $15 and it plugs into an outlet instead of USB so IT has no way of detecting it.

>>55779744
I put a paperweight on my spacebar and saved those 15 bucks.

I think it'll get really hard if they start checking people's screens all the time

>>55779754
>I think it'll get really hard if they start checking people's screens all the time
Just write a script to alt tab through your 8 open windows at random intervals. Thankfully my boss doesn't give a fuck because I'm White and actually provide value to the team.

>>55779775
I'm not white so I don't create value

>>55779524
Agree. Don't know how I was able to go to the office every fucking day before. Never again, I'd rather kms than ever go back to the cagie.

covid hoax was a blessing

>>55779524
anon how do I get a wfh job
currently enrolled in a cs degree

>>55779813
as long as you're not black and removing value you'll be ok

>>55779879
look up wfh jobs on the job site of your choice
apply to them
hope you get hired
>>55779885
kek

Where do I find one? Any job sites or boards?

My job basically can't be done remotely

>>55779524
I don't understand how you get more done.
I'm remote 99% of the time and in one of the rare office days I get more done that all of it combined.
I turned into the worst slacker after Covid. Can't even be bothered to go to the gym anymore in the free time I've gained.

>>55779754
I've heard some IT departments look for anomalies like thousands of presses on the same key or one key held down constantly. If they're big enough faggots to constantly check your screen work somewhere else. As long as you get your shit done and aren't showing as AFK for hours at a time anyone sane won't have a problem with you.

Im going for comfy wfh job too, starting next month.
Before this I was sales outside, eventually figured out I could just use a script to run the software that registers my activity with a fake location and stay home all day.
But I got laid of because of I did not meet my targets anymore.
Still got a good months pay playing vidya tho, and I wanted to quit anyway.

>>55780088
>>55779754
>imagine remote working for a company based in a country with no privacy laws.
None of that shit is allowed where I live.

>>55779524
>The best advice you'll ever see here: do whatever it takes to get a remote job. It's like cheating at life.
Actually feels like cheating, kinda feel sorry for all the >>55780079 faggots wasting precious time and energy commuting and socializing with normies.
I got so much time on my hands now, picked up so many things I always wanted to do, work has been becoming a non issue for me since wfh. No more ironing shirts, no more mediocre overpriced cantina food, passionate homecooking every day instead. Still remember that bad feeling creeping on me on Sunday evenings, better go to bed soon, need to leave for work in a few hours. Totally free of it now. My physical and mental wellbeing has been x100 since then.
GET A REMOTE JOB WHATEVER IT TAKES

>>55779532
Similar here. All of the full time remote stuff I could get pays only half of what I make currently to spend about 6 hours per week in traffic.

If I can work out a way to do remote from SEA, I'll likely take the plunge in a couple of years anyway, but I've found a surprising amount of employers insist on being US resident and also there's the 12 hour time difference issue.

>>55780352
>If I can work out a way to do remote from SEA, I'll likely take the plunge in a couple of years anyway, but I've found a surprising amount of employers insist on being US resident and also there's the 12 hour time difference issue.
That's the endgame. I've been doing this several times for months on and off, but with merely 6 hours time diff (EU based job), which is just perfect. But I can see 12 hours working as well. Mouse wiggle at night, fuck brown qts all day.
Keep your residency and use a VPN, if you're a SEA thirdy, you'll be paid like one.

>>55780428
I can see it working out in my imagination but I can also see them sending me a Teams message at 3am my time wanting to do a spur of the moment chat and then what? Ideally, I get a job where they just want me to process a bunch of data and they don't care where or what time of day I do it, like maybe some mid-level book keeping work. That way I don't have to pull off a LARP and fear getting fired because some minor shit goes wrong.

>>55780676
That's the downside, you'd have to pick up the call even if it would be rare. It all depends on your flexibility to make this work.
Avoiding the LARP is hard I imagine. Good luck finding an employer paying you US rates with SEA residency, which would also involve paying taxes overseas and you having some form of valid work visa. Maybe as an external contractor or something.

does anyone else work from bed. just so cozy i never make it to my desk. ive been doing data entry for the local government. their policy is to come in 2 days per week but I stopped showing up 6months ago and nobody has said anything. im gonna no show if they say anything i cannot go in to cubicle hell

>>55780084
That doesn’t make any sense. Going into the office is a waste of 2-3 hours every day on dressing yourself, socializing needlessly and commuting. How are you not more productive at home?
Lying shill

>>55779524
Because I make a lot of money not working from home without a degree.

ever since i got banned from google for racism i can only get jobs from places that are disconnected from the algorithm. sometimes i put in applications, get hired by the manager face to face, but then their system rejects me

>>55781083
I unironically got banned from youtube for posting some racist shit, and I was still able to get an IT job. I even work indirectly with google now.

>>55781102
>unironically
I'm not being ironic, I used to post troll comments to get responses and I found out race baiting was the most effective and I've been permabanned since like 2010. I can only get hired at small businesses. I can't even get hired at mcdonalds or pizza hut

>>55779524
>>55779524
Nevertheless, little Mousemouse that I am, I will still work very hard to earn money.

>>55779554
Same here, sucks. I want to get another job so I can work and live somewhere else but the pay here is too good to pass up

>>55779524
>If you don't have a remote job, what the fuck are you doing?
applying to all of them and getting ignored

>>55779524
Unfortunately they're doing away with remote jobs because wagies have been too comfortable the past few years, making wagies commute to an office is an essential part of the wageslave humiliation ritual.

>>55780347
What do you work as and how can I do the same? Please help out anon

>>55779524
>>55780347

Folks,

I know I am seeing a lot of back-and-forth on this topic, but I really need to push back and raise some red flags here. Having an on-site office presence is foundational to our ability to drive efficiencies in a corporate landscape. It is in our DNA. Sure, there is no 'one size fits all' or silver bullet and some are just boilerplate solutions, leveraged to the hilt and really only keeping us at a 30,000-foot-view of things. Being on-site, however, really allow us to get better granularity, find better directional-indicators, or loop back and dive deep into some critical issues on a go-forward basis.

I think if you all start spending more time in the office gain, you'll find yourself trending toward the positive, but you'll have to keep an eye on the puck. Gut through it, reduce thrash, and let's stay in lock-step on this. Yes, we will synergize!

What's the root cause of the hatred of Corporate office spaces? I'll put my layman's hat on and guess that it comes from movies such as Office Space and Dilbert cartoons. But we all know that these are fictional spaces, and real office spaces allow us to touch base in a much more efficient manner.

I have to time-box this comment, as I have a hard-stop in a moment when I will have to jump onto a call. So, just one more point that I want to cover-off on: let's socialize the idea of having more office presence and loop back to see whether we're being more impactful. From a management standpoint, I think that we can get the traction to do it.

So, net/net, ignore the naysayers, sidebar the folks that are stuck in the weeds, and don't waste cycles or bandwidth on folks that don't align strongly with this mission. Try it out, and we'll have another touch point in a little while to see if we've moved the needle. Remember, our north star hasn't changed. We're still championing our core values remotely and we will only do it better in person.

If you need me, I will be online again in a bit.

>>55779524
I got a remote job but my boss requires me to use an invasive app that allows him to check on my screen, take random screenshots and it logs every page and program i use in my pc

>>55779744
Why the fuck would you want to stay on green all day? I purposely set mine to away when I need to focus and don’t want anybody messaging me.

>>55780084
Skill issue

>>55779524
I CANT VET FUCKING INTER IRWS
I APLLY TO SO MANY PLACES AND ITS RADIO SILENCE
I MAKE 230K BUT HAVE TO GO INTO OFFICE NEXT MONTH AND I SANT GL DOE

>>55779524
I have one. Similar experience here. Doesn't pay great. I'm probably moving into a more manager role though that's still remote, so that might be nice. I am constantly stressed the hammer is gonna smack down since technically we're hybrid

>>55779554
>>55779744
My company during a company wide meeting the CEO talk about a new product idea for measuring employee disengagement. Seeing how active they were during the day so if they became disengaged and likely trying for a new job, a manager could step in and provide corrective action. I swear these ceos live on another planet.

>>55782489
>you'll have to keep an eye on the puck
Lost

>>55780347
i'm getting a remote work from anywhere job
what should I do?
im in EU

>>55782600
I get all my work done in 1-2 hours then spend the rest of the day playing vidya and shitposting. I have an L-shaped desk with my work computer on one side and my own computer on the other side so if I get an urgent message or email (happens maybe every other day) I can respond quickly. If people bothered me all the time I'd set my status as busy for chunks of the day. I let my status go to away for about an hour each day when I'm eating lunch or going to the store or whatever, just in case it would look fishy to IT if somebody was never marked away.
>>55783006
Fortunately executives and upper management at my company aren't too out of touch but I've heard some deranged shit from other companies. I interviewed at a place that explained they use software with your webcam to make sure you are facing your monitor and it sends your manager a report at the end of the day noting all the times you went more than 2 minutes without looking at your monitor or were not seated in front of your monitor. They said you were expected to message your manager for permission to take bathroom breaks or your lunch break. That's a joke for McDonalds, much less a remote position. I ghosted them when they requested a second interview.

>>55780084
>clock in at 8
>put phone in drawer
>put on headphones
>get coffee
>work hard from 8:30-11
>piss about rest of day/do housework/look at stocks to invest in/"learn a skill" to get an even better remote job (just do some stupid coursera course)
>submit work at 3:30
>manager is impressed
>go to gym

How is that hard? Most people in my office do barely 2 hours worth of hard work realistically, the fact I'm hitting that and some gets their tits extra moist about me. I love remote work so much

>>55779524
>If you don't have a remote job, what the fuck are you doing?
Things have gotten really competitive in the past couple years. Not just in remote work, but work in general.

I used to get a ton of replies to job applications. These days I'm lucky if I get invited to a single interview within a 30 day timespan of applying to jobs. Again, not just remote, but any job at all.

So how much more competitive is remote work? I literally can't get anything. Shit sucks

>>55779524
How do I get a remote job, I'm 26 with a GED.
I wanna work my job and do remote shit after and on weekends.

>>55779532
>I'm hoping crypto moons soon
Lmao, LOL even.
See you in like 2030.

>>55780347
HOW DO REMOTE WORK?

>>55784298
>HOW DO REMOTE WORK?
The desperate cry of every concious wageslave for the foreseeable futue, kek.

>>55779524
Yeah, only problem is that all remote jobs get hundreds if not thousands of applicants. If you spend months on indeed applying to ~30 remote jobs a day, you'll still get nothing.
>dont use indeed bro
So which companies should you apply on their sites? Doesn't surprise me that no one in this thread has answered how to get remote work. There is no way except for very rare exceptions.

>>55784425
Learn how IDs work you fucking numb nuts hick cuck.

It's too fucking late. Jews want you goys to come back to save their precious real estate.

>>55784484
>So which companies should you apply on their sites? Doesn't surprise me that no one in this thread has answered how to get remote work. There is no way except for very rare exceptions.
I think I cracked the code. Get in good with a local company, work there for a while to put some experience on your resume that says "this guy can stick with a job, he's reliable" and then apply to one of the company's business partners or third-party vendors. Preferably one where you have a good working relationship and reputation with some of the partner's employees.

>>55784691
Oh but this is potentially a conflict of interest for everyone involved, so technically not a safe move and therefore this is not financial advice

>>55784593
this bot is broken

Working in a warehouse that requires PPE and long sleeve shirts and jeans and boots. I come home fucking soaked for $15/hr gross

What remote job could I get with my Biology BA?
INB4 haters start hating

>>55780347
I'm going to make like $450k this year and in a few years it'll be more than that and I'll just retire at age 45 or so

I would love a remote part time job. I'm building up a business and would love to bank about $1,500 a month doing remote work.

I would even take a full time remote job as the extra time I would get from not having to commute an hour both ways would save me an enormous amount of time and money.

If anybody has any tips an anon wild appreciate it. Just trying to build a better life for my family.

>>55779524
my boss doesn't even give a fuck if I'm offline all day, I've done it for years and I just got promoted

How do I find a fully remote job?

When I search linkedin etc they are listed as """remote""" but in the description say it's more like 2/3 days wfh and the rest in the office.

>>55782045
IT in a big corp.

>>55783050
SEA, Thailand probably. Or SA, but timezone is better east. You'll be king.

>>55785158
Do it then without wasting any more of your time than necessary

>>55784278
Are you the mentally ill tranny who kept posting their avatar in Kleros threads? Is this who you think you are now? You should sell your pnkies and go all in on Kadena.

>>55779524
Literally if they offered me double my pay but I had to come into the office five days a week I wouldn’t take it. Working from home is its own kind of wealth

Most people are too dumb to get WFH jobs. They can't even use Excel, what makes you think they can use SQL or Python or the harder programming languages

I seriously have no clue how to find one
I open up LinkedIn and it shows me absolutely dreadful shitstain jobs, almost as if my employer pays a premium to them to try and dissuade me from leaving

>>55779524
Can I do cybersecurity remotely? I currently work in a room with no windows because my job involves a security clearance. I hate it.

>>55785592
>almost as if my employer pays a premium to them to try and dissuade me from leaving
fucking kek. i might be laid off from my remote job next week. ive been looking for a new job for the past two weeks and it's been incredibly depressing. I am literally sad and anxious at the prospect of losing this job, because commuting 3-5 days a week will fuck my life up.

>>55782489
My boss and his boss and his boss's boss all speak like this and send email like this. The dept. head's email explaining why we weren't allowed to work from home was literally structured like this.

I don't get it. Do they really lack any self-awareness at all? Do they really think their subordinates respect them for acting like this?

>>55785626
Yes.

>>55780347
I thought I wanted threads like this to hang with my WFH bros, but dude, calm the fuck down. I do not need you hyping up every Indian on the fucking planet to apply for the same roles.
>>55780945
Yup. And I'm productive from bed. I would sometimes put the work laptop in bed with me, and just set my alarm for 8:50 it I had a meeting at 9. Any drowsiness I'd always just blame on not having had my coffee yet.
Sleeping on my lunch break is great.

Remote jobs are gradually going away + any ones that are available are hyper competitive now (all of them have hundreds if not thousands of well qualified applicants all eating each other for the job spot)

>>55785692
i landed a few dozen remote job interviews in the summer/fall of 2021. now im getting like 3 interviews across the same period of time.

im seriously considering retraining into a 2 year healthcare degree so i can go rural. im not going to suffer the humiliation of working in person while not being able to afford a fucking overpriced house in the suburbs.

>>55782489
pic related

>>55779524
There aren't any that aren't minimum wage call centre jobs. No thanks.

>>55785994
I swear whenever I talk to someone at T-Mobile they either sound Flip or Black

amazing how many 400k/year 5 minutes work per day wfh-ers frequent /biz/

>>55782489