/biz/ - Business & Finance

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>>55767571

>tfw almost Roman tier but it just feels so far away.

>>55767571
Cashless banks are on the horizon next month in the UK.

https://youtu.be/gTlYmgGDvtM

>From September 11th Nat West Bank will be limiting the amount of cash that you can deposit and withdraw.

>They also have the right to refuse cash and even cheques on any basis in their new terms & conditions.

>The banks are trying to force a cashless society upon us!

I thought this would start to happen after the 2024 general election, but it appears things are moving forward faster. I don't know if this is desperation or the banks are ahead of schedule.

>>55767571
>>55766666
poetry

>In 1876, Morgan enrolled as a student at the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts to prepare to create a new Liberty head design. Morgan also obtained studies from nature of the bald eagle for preparation of the reverse design. For the representation of Liberty, Morgan sought to depict an American woman rather than the usual Greek–style figures. Morgan's friend, artist Thomas Eakins, suggested he use Anna Willess Williams of Philadelphia as a model. In total, Morgan had five sittings with Williams; he declared her profile to be the most perfect he had seen.

Maybe this is why the premiums for ASE have gone down.

>go camping for a week
>4chang goes down
spooky
Anything interesting happen the last week?
>Prospectors being shipped to me now
>Crusader's waiting for art
>no ideas for the next desk mat yet

>>55767704
somebody said they got their crusader, was he just a troll

>>55767716
100%. The first draft will be posted here for feedback before it goes forward

>>55767704
>Prospectors being shipped to me now

Platinum worth investing in? Thinking of buying half KG of 93/7 tungsten

>>55767829
yes

>>55767829
that sounds like a meme purchase mate
just buy some gold

If I have $1000 cash, what is the best precious metal to buy in (your) opinion?

>>55767887
a tube of silver krugs and a bunch of merc dimes sounds nice

>>55767887

1/2oz Gold. or 1kg of Silver It'll give you a taste for stacking.

>>55767641
>I don't know if this is desperation or the banks are ahead of schedule.

Its desperation.

>>55767716
I manifesting it happening in the future.

>>55767571
it is a shame Mintanon rugpulled with the apu crusader.

Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi4pzKvuEQM
Let there be cheapies!

>>55767981
Cheers bro I make a lot of cash in tips and I don't know what to do with it, so precious metal seems like a good option.
Anything to look out for when looking for a reputable coin shop? I don't want to try to buy gold or silver while looking like a total noob.

>>55767693
If you don't hold it...

>>55767829
Platinum is speculation.It can go down (fewer catalytic converters as more EVs replace ICEs), or can go up (EV production may be limited by export restrictions or absolute dearth of rare earth metals) making hydrogen fuel cells a reasonable next gen power source.
In any case, a chunk of tungsten is cool to have - just to feel the sheer density with going broke buying gold.

>>55768265
He’s literally posted in the thread

1oz, 25.3€, can't find a lower price in europe, too much?

>>55768226
The one good /pmg/ schizo

>>55768733
Just head in with what you’re buying in mind. Have some backup buys in case they don’t have your #1 choice.
Gold: 1/2oz maple or Britannia have good security features.
Silver: tube of the above
Spare change: mercs or other constitutional junk silver
They normally charge at ‘face value’ of the coin. So you could ask “what do you charge for $20 of 90% constitutional” and they’ll know you’re a big time knowledgable chad.
Refer online resources for rates

>>55768991
Anyone remember that one guy who did the "what do you charge for 90%" line and the boomer saw right through him and laughed him out the door.

Hey guys, what's your opinion on copper?

>>55769007
*wrong picture, opps.

>>55769007
Worse than nickel.

>>55769016

I have no reference to anything.

>>55769012
>>55769007
It takes up too much space
It's stinky
It's common enough to make up pipes and power lines
you're best off just hoarding copper pennies out of change and even then, since they're technically bronze there's no way the refining value is going to be what the copper inside is "technically worth" (also why War nickels and 40% Kennedys are a shit buy unless you get a spectacular deal)

how much longer, bros?

>>55769028
>It's stinky
this alone is reason enough to avoid it
gold and silver are odorless; it is part of what makes them precious

>>55769000
Lol what
This can’t be real

>>55769045
>play with silver quarters
>hands are scentless
>play with cupronickel quarters
>hands stink, gotta scrub excessively to make them not stink

>>55767571
What is our opinion on the potential effect of a new BRICS currency on gold prices? They're going to have a meeting later this month.

>>55769085
do you like skyscrapers? because you can buy one for a few gold coins soon :^)

>>55769042
half of a moons phase

>>55769085
do you like skyscrapers? because you'll jump off one soon :^)

>>55769085
yeah, well
get ready, fuckstick

>>55769007
It's a lovely color when polished.
It does smell, and makes your skin stink after handling it.
It has good antibacterial properties (organisms don't live long on its surface - one reason brass railings and doorknobs in public places are popular).
It oxidizes (gets ugly) comically fast.
It seems normies think it's valuable.
There's a lot of the stuff - it probably won't moon.

Thoughts on this new Scottsdale mint coin? I’m thinking of getting one.

>>55769564
Scottsdale will always have high-quality product. It looks like it has a high premium. If koi fish are something that you like for some reason, it's up to you to decide whether it's worth the extra fiat. I'm a bigger fan of their East Caribbean 8 series.

>>55767681
I don't really see what Morgsn saw. The portrait he created has quite a manly jaw and profile, unlike the Peace dollar, where the face looks genuinely beautiful.

>>55767887
Buy a tube of silver sovereigns. Either Brittanias, Maple Leafs, Krugs, ASEs, etc. Having a tube of 20-25 coins makes you feel like you have a lot of silver

>>55767571
Is it true ?

>>55769614
I’m torn between the koi or this one. I’m a sucker for coat of arms

>ASE's down
>Peace dollars up

But I wanted more hopeful post WW1 rocks

>>55767829
I'm fomo'ing hard. I've posted my reasons. Got 24oz so far.

Silver = 1billion oz mined per year, it's a dog

I watched a video about this solar powered family SUV that can drive for months without needing to be charged but it costs too much about 250k USD. This made me think because it seems like the governments of Europe might make promises to revolutionise such green sources of energy for everyone and then make people accept a poor standard of living in order to pay lots of tax to the corrupt politicians and in the end the green projects fail and the people suffer under watermelon communism.

Then I thought, most truly productive people nowadays have office jobs because it pays more. If they were to produce things instead like cane sugar then Coca-Cola could go back to its original recipe for example. The cost of living would decrease because people would be farming more, manufacturing more and building more.

All goyim must get off the land and come and waste away in city jobs and make the world less wealthy in terms of real goods and services.

>>55769701
so what's the solution

>>55769682
Is that koi worth another $400 (assuming one full ounce)?

>>55769728
Stack coins, build your own white community and form your own little economy where your people are wealthy in real terms and the result is a happy high fertility rate.

>>55769733
Probably not, I’ll see how I feel in a few days. Thanks for the input

>>55767704
>Prospectors being shipped to me now
What changes have been done to the 2023 AP design vs the 2022 AP, besides the year and no serial? Is the ordering being done differently on these? Seem to be stocked inventory, and until supply lasts for these, rather than pre-order, fulfillment, and done.

rate my stack

>>55767227
That's fine, no laws exist against being a homo like you.

I prefer security features, they will help me sell the coins once i need fiat.
I also keep the receipt/shipping cost around, so that i know exactly what was paid and i note the spot price of the day of purchase so i can retrace the premiums.
Usually i pay 1.5 to 2% premium over spot. I fail to see why i should pay more for coins that may or may not fake.

>>55767466
I remember that incident. You said "There was no holocaust and Hitler did nothing wrong."
What a mystery that warning was.

>>55767887
1/2 oz of gold, Maple Leaf or Britannia, something with solid security features.
Also, 1/2 oz is very small, don't be disappointed.

>>55768930
Where?

>>55769987
Lacks gold, innit? I hear silver lost 20% of it's value recently.
I have 2 1oz gold coins, which i guess are worth more than that.
Unless that stuff has collectors value, then it might be worth more.

>>55770016
>Lacks gold, innit?
It's somewhere else

>I hear silver lost 20% of it's value recently.
Yeah silver does that, but most was bought when the prices were far lower

>I have 2 1oz gold coins, which i guess are worth more than that

/pmg/ is not a dick measuring contest

>>55769007
>Toaster strudel
Based
I wonder many quality toaster strudels an ounce of gold could get down the line

>>55770016
tavex.no

>>55770028
>/pmg/ is not a dick measuring contest
Says the tourist with the small dick.

>>55770055
Sadly, once the exchange, taxation and shipping to Germany happens the coin costs 75€ ;-). I think that's a fair price, if you can keep secondary costs low.

>>55770112
this general has turned to shit thanks to unfriendly fucks like you, truly a dead general, I out bye

>>55770129
Well, you started with the dick sizing. Grow a skin, Zoomer.

>>55770016
>I prefer security features, they will help me sell the coins once i need fiat.
>I also keep the receipt/shipping cost around, so that i know exactly what was paid and i note the spot price of the day of purchase so i can retrace the premiums
literal autism

>I remember that incident. You said "There was no holocaust and Hitler did nothing wrong."
What a mystery that warning was.
no, but picrel

>>55770112
>Sadly, once the exchange, taxation and shipping to Germany happens
>Germany
ah that explains the autism

It's doomping again.

>>55769667

It’s only just begun.

>>55770496
>Finish breakfast
>Open kitco.com
>Silver is down 0.22
picrel

This is the golden mask of Agamemnon, 1550 years before Christ. It's over 3500 years old.

>>55769085
All paths seem to point to gold. The BRICS all have their own crappy fiat currencies but they will not be able to use any of them for a common currency because they cannot trust each other not to inflate. So that pushes them towards either a central governing body taking control of the currency, which will not fly because they don't really like each other or trust each other very much, or a currency hard-backed with a commodity. But only a few commodities are suitable due to lack of fungibility, spoilage, bulk, etc. And the only commodity they all have in common is gold.
So economic forces all seem to be pushing them towards a gold-backed currency.

If the BRICS combine forces to produce a uniform gold-backed currency, then the USD is going to take a huge hit, the LME will get taken off at the knees, and the exchange value of gold will soar. If the BRICS redeem in gold in a reliable way, the USA will have to issue its own gold-backed trade currency. And that will end the era of fiat.

>>55771175
Based chicken coin appreciator.

>>55770028
Are you poor or something? You better not be.

Without being a schizo, explain to me how stacking gold is better than stacking benjamins.
people who bought gold at 2k and silver at 27 are still at a loss, metals are inflating at a higher rate than fiat

>>55771324
>people who bought at the all-time-high are at a loss now
>therefore metal is a bad investment
The same would be true for any other investment. Buy high, sell low loses money. Except for benjamins. Inflation erodes their purchasing power continuously.

>>55769085
BRICS is a meme. Nothing ever happens

>>55771324
I know it's unorthodox for /biz/ but just don't buy high and sell low. It's that simple.

>>55767887
Easy answer is gold. Banks have recently begun rerecognizing gold as money from Brenton/Woods3. I like personally like. When the gold / silver ratio (GSR) narrows to 1-20ish, then swap into gold. A more skeptical answer would be nickel. A US nickel has like 7-8c worth of metal in it. You could go to the bank grab rolls of nickels and just wait for the copper / nickel price to jump.

I’m sure dollar’s purchasing power will continue to fall. For that reason I believe metals is a good place to be. I’m not saying it’s the only or even the best place to be, but it’s about as sound as it gets. Silver specifically has seen its industrial use out pace the mine supply for the last decade. Mankind has mined a lot of silver these last 5,000 years, but to my knowledge there are no more vast stockpiles of silver. The metal in your stack represents the manpower required to dig it up, and so long as civilization exists metal will be part of it.

>>55771570
Calling something a "meme" is not really a substitute for factual analysis.

Picrel provides an excellent 200-page history of gold as money. Should be required reading for anyone before they opine on the future of gold.

>>55771324
Without being a dupe, explain to me how the USA can pay its ever-mounting debts without inflation? Without being unconscious, explain how the dollar can lose 98% of it value and still be seen as a safe repository for wealth? Without being ignorant of history, tell me how long gold and silver have had value?

>>55771324
ok you can stack benjamins and i'll stack gold/silver
we'll meet back here in 10 years to discuss how it panned out

>>55771324
funny gif shit bait

I bought the coin of pic rel. Has anon started shipping yet? What do I search for to find my confirmation email?

>>55771997
if you paid through paypal you might just want to check there for the payment. it sounds like they'll be shipping soon

>>55772013
Naw was with a card IIRC. I'm getting worried because I'm not seeing this design on the first (and only) site listed by Google and I'm wondering if I got scammed by buying from the wrong store.

If any fren can tell me what email address or subject was in their receipt/confirmation email so I can look it up I'd appreciate it

>>55772064
the confirmation i did get came from

>>55772064
if you're looking at the shop page of the site today you'll only see a sold out megumin listed. he's good at responding to emails. just email him if you're worried.

>>55772082
Alright that's where I got it from, ty!
>>55772115
>if you're looking at the shop page of the site today you'll only see a sold out megumin listed
The site I was looking at today is the fake one in that case, or at least an off shoot. Ty

Is debtmaxxing into silver now a good idea?

>>55772160
Extremely unlikely. It's been much lower not too long ago and it feels like the economy is finally starting to really slow.

>>55771675
I like the gold standard but I don't expect the bunch of thirdies to deliver anything valuable

Best deal today is Asahi lot of 10 on eBay for$263

>>55772354
>thirdies don't do nuthin good
also not a substitute for factual analysis

What minimum length of 1/2 inch silver pipe would be beneficial for my water supply consumption?
Assume it’s already been filtered.

>>55769916
The T-Rex arms were fixed at least from what's been shown before. His site page isn't spectacular.

80 mercury dimes for 165$ good deal?

ASE premiums are finally dumping, cheapest I've seen is $28 per ounce.

>>55772912
let em fall. shitmerica coins deserve no premium

>>55772907
$2.06 each isn't bad

>>55772907
No.

>>55773049
MM is killing me. I bought a $100 FV bag last week and I'm trying not to buy another (or ASE's or Maples...) this week.

i've been buying online for years with no problems but now I'm dealing with a $350 order being marked as delivered but me not having it. it hurts. nobody is helping me because USPS marked it falsely as delivered. sigh. I'll probably eventually get a refund but it makes me want to stop all online shit and just go to an LCS from now on

It's career day again !

Anyone know when she's gonna drop? I can hardly contain myself :]

>>55772693
ok thirdie

>>55769051
The guy talked about it right here in this general I'll have to find it kek

>>55773393
more brainless responses
keep it up

>>55773433
>more brainless responses
BRICS is a real and coherent entity that can implement a complex project like a global currency backed by gold

Anyone interested in a dubs numbered gilded Anime Prospector for $400 XMR?

>>55773356
Id like this but I'm euro

>>55769007
Unironically better than gold!
>>55769016
Kys
>>55769028
fuck you
>>55769537
you're on thin ice
>>55770032
zero. An ounce of copper however will get you 3.

>>55773393
I didn't think your responses could be less substantive. Now you have exceeded my expectations. Congratulations.

>>55773515

What is your opinion on gold, silver and platinum?

>>55773669
>gold
great
>silver
awesome
>platinum
eh, purely industrial with questionable future use cases. worth a gamble if you have money to burn i guess

>>55773453
BRICS gdp exceeds the G7. And three of them have nukes. Of course they could fuck it up. America certainly fucks up every major project it undertakes. No reason to think other governments can't fuck it up too. But to dismiss them as no threat at all is whistling past the graveyard. The American empire WILL fall. This is certain. They all do eventually. And it is usually at least in part a monetary problem. The only question is when.

>>55769007

Kind of pointless to build a collection of due to its value (not the lack of, but simply because copper is so plentiful) and the space it takes up, but I still like to collect copper bars for fun. I have a ton of 10oz bars that I keep just because I think it's cool to have giant stacks of bars.

This reminds me to go look in my garage today. I have a couple old ammunition cases full of old pennies that I've had for years because 1) I hated using pennies and 2) We stopped using them in Canada. Hopefully I've got some good ones in there.

>>55773688

Thank you for your input.

>>55773356
Well after the Crusader rug I doubt that will happen

>>55773742

I found one case of them!

Uh! What are you looking at anon?

>>55773842

I have no idea how many are in here but it weighs a fucking ton. There's at least a couple hundred of them in this.

>>55772160
Use this dip to drain the comex.

>>55773842
>>55773862

What should I do with them, /biz/? They're no longer legal tender in Canada so I can't take them to a bank anymore (at one point I could). Should I just keep them? Sell them to collectors? Throw them in fountains and make wishes?

>Go to LCS
>silver eagles down to $33
>US 90% down to just 21x fv
I wish I could've afforded more, but getting two eagles and a Kennedy half for $77 is pretty sweet

>>55773881
You don't measure your pennies by face value?

>>55773881
Keep them in an airtight box and then start to slowly sell them to collectors in a couple of years.

>>55772160
I'm debt maxxing at 20.

>>55773881
You can't even spend pennies in Canada? Jeez that's bad

any news? i haven't checked in for a while.

Any news publications of that lady supposedly selling off her huge stash of silver eagles? I asked the guy at the coin shop about it and he had no idea

>>55773962

I looked it up. It seems that they are in fact still legal tender and you can use them though whenever a store or whatever deposits their cash to a bank, the bank removes them from circulation.

We stopped minting them in 2012 and they are entirely out of circulation now, except for people who still use them which is basically nobody. The main reason was because it cost more to produce a penny than it was worth (it cost 1.6 cents spent to produce a penny around the time we phased them out). Since nobody likes to have pennies on them, people would horde them, lose them or throw them away (or take a bunch to the bank) meaning we had less pennies in circulation, requiring us to mint more, but at a loss.

Inflation also had an impact, meaning they stopped being practical and useful for the average person.

We now round up or down when it is a purchase made of cash. If you use a card/digital payment method, then you still pay cent increments.

>Cash transactions with sums ending in 1, 2, 6 or 7 cents are rounded down; those ending in 3, 4, 8 or 9 cents are rounded up. Non-cash transactions are still denominated to the cent. The rounding is not done on individual items but on the total bill of sale.

>USA and banks short gold and silver
>if a buyer pushed prices it might cause a squeeze and both would be in hell of trouble
So why doesn't china step in and buy 50 billion on the open market?

>>55773911
Checked, good advice. Thanks, fren.
The Jews are basically begging me to take their money to buy silver and holding myself back is quite the challenge.

Found in the wild in the pocket of a boomer

>>55773881
my grandfather left me a bunch of rolls of old indian head pennies from the 1800s. I need to sift through them at some point, apparently some dates are pretty valuable

>>55774042
>open market
They're not allowed to. The supposedly open market is an illusion.

>>55773891
yep

I have gold and silver coin, but now I need copper and platinum to be a true RPG adventurer

>>55774230
you can save up to buy platinum.
get some rolls of pennies and keep an eye out for 70's an earlier.
there are 80s pennies that are copper, but anything earlier is better.

>>55773881
I've got a similar heavy copper collection.
If they have no other value, I'm sure there's always just slowly selling them individually in some amount of years. there'll will be nostalgia buyers out there.

>>55774042
>>Babylon and their bankers short gold and silver
>So why doesn't Babylon step in and buy 50 billion on the open market?

>>55774067
Why are you pickpocketing old people for their pocket change?

>>55774560
He didn’t want it. I heard that silver sound when he was getting exact change and made him give me the pile, fished it out and told him “this is silver and worth $6” he said you can have it.

>>55774594
Sounds less like he didn't want but but more like he thought you were based and deserved it for pulling that stunt.

>>55773881
>What should I do with them, /biz/?
Every once in a while sell a bunch on ebay. If you're lucky, you'll do a few cents more than break even.
Pennies are kind of dead-end. You have to melt them yourself, as destroying pennies for their scrap value is outlawed (in the US) and therefore commercial smelters won't. If you do it yourself, it jacks the expense (and effort) quite a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPQDkKA4MLE

>>55774042
Good question. China IS buying large quantities of gold. Not sure about silver. Keep in mind that China is still heavily involved in the dollar. If it were to kill the dollar right now it would lose hundreds of billions if not trillions. It might be a wise strategy to not cause a rush for the door.

>>55773858
Animu and oc, no yous :(

>>55773715
>BRICS gdp exceeds the G7.
And the USA has a larger GDP than China. NorthAmerica, Japan, Europe and SouthKoreas GDP is larger than that of the rest of the world, yet they have only a sixth of the people.

What does that mean for the glorious BRICS plans? Nothing. They will try and fail, because they sooner or later will notice that they can't be subject to the Chinese Communist Party.

Fuck BRICS, if they where gone, the world would be a better place.

>>55774722
>when the registered numbers are all made up and the values don't matter!

>>55773858
>>55775066
Here (you) go, anon.

>>55775105
>BRICS
Will be like 5 monkeys fucking a football. None of those nations have a clue how to run their own economy, much less manage 5+

12€ for this gold ;-)

>>55775192
Still more metal than a goldback.

>>55775171
And the USA is great at managing it's economy? Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

>>55775105
I don't think gdp matters much either. But BRICS fuds try to paint them as economic toddlers. They are not.

If the USA was gone, the world would be a better place. Sad for an American to say it, but it is true. Maybe a sufficiently catastrophic crash could lay a new foundation for America. That's the extent of my optimism.

>>55775171
thank god we have the jews and israel to run our economy. they are so smart :^}

>>55775272
They've been doing an exceptional job at extorting the rest of the world for their goods while exporting USD, so unironically yes.

>>55775171
Like most BRICS fud, your comment is just insult without substance. The truth is that if they can issue a gold-backed currency, they don't have to manage each other's economy. Gold rises above corruption and stupidity because its value is inherent, not dependent on outside forces.

>>55775105
>>BRICS gdp exceeds the G7.
BRICS and the US have about the same size in their economy.

>>55775362
Ten seconds with google puts the lie to your comment. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/animated-chart-g7-vs-brics-by-gdp-ppp/

>>55775362
Not only have the BRICS surpassed the USA in gdp, but the trend is in their favor and has been for twenty years.

>>55775127
In/outflow still matters even if registered is actually 0.

>be me
>ameriburger
>taking my lunch break from being a wagie
>use my fake and gay USD fiat bucks to buy some MacDonal
>sit down to eat
>suddenly a fucking BRICs comes flying over me
>itsgoldbacked.yiff
>fugg
>look down only to see my delicious borgar is gone
>the smell still lingers
>in the distance hear multicultural voices raughing in various languages
>BRICs are eating my lunch
>mfw

>>55775383
>>55775393
>https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/animated-chart-g7-vs-brics-by-gdp-ppp/
>gdp-ppp
That's not GDP, of you mean gdp-ppp then say that but don't confuse it for GDP because those are two different metrics.

>>55774629
It is now ensconced in with my other "random silver coins found in the wild"

was phone posting earlier

>>55775340
>Gold rises above corruption and stupidity because its value is inherent, not dependent on outside forces.
Mate, it's a gold backed currency. Not gold currency.
So far it's expected that 2.4% has to be physical gold, 93.6% will be fiat.
Fucking turd worlder, you didn't even look into the details, just read the Hindu Times.

>>55775459
gee i wonder which is better, a gold backed fiat currency, or a fiat currency backed by nothing

>>55775469
There is no difference long term.

>>55775490
on a long enough timeline, maybe.
on a 30-50 year timeline? i'll take the BRICs

Some silver and a couple other oddities.

Ex-NEET here now working as a help desk guy.
I could feasibly spend 100€ a month on precious metals. I know that is not a lot to most, but it's something.
How should I go about this? Any idea where to buy from if you live in eastern EU? (Hungary)
What are these supposed security features people talk about?
Should I get a safe for it?

>>55775539
your best option is finding a cool LCS and building a rapport with them.
you don't need a safe, just get a shoebox and hide it somewhere.

>>55775565
>LCS
Assuming this means local coin shop.
There is a jewelry shop that buys and sells "broken" gold or whatever, basically scraps I guess.
I'll ask them if they sell coins and these ingot type things then.
Anything to look for to make sure its real or do I just trust them on it?

>>55775497
I'm sure your life will be healthy and prosperous through Chinas rule over you. That is the reason why all the people want to live in China, not in the US or Europe.

I can tell that you have thought this through and no westerner can deter you from the path of being a subject of glorious Communist party rule.

>>55775539
Get your priorities straight:

1) Build an emergency fund (3 month spending, 6 if you have children)
2) Send the money you can save to another account when the monthly salary comes, live from the rest
3) Split the money, buy for 50€ FTSE DevelopedWorld ETF, let the rest accumulate until you can buy 1/4 oz gold. You pay VAT for silver, so gold is your only option. The larger the coin, the less premium over spot you pay.
I can put aside 1800€ a month, i buy ETF every two weeks for 450€, and let the rest accumulate. Once i have enough for an ounce, i buy.

But you have to have 1) under control first!

>>55775604
>I'm sure your life will be healthy and prosperous through Chinas rule over you. That is the reason why all the people want to live in China, not in the US or Europe.
nothin personal mate
just business
people want gold backed

>>55775596
No, they will rip you off. Go to a proper coin store, offline or online doesn't matter.
You want to buy modern coins that have security features, like Maple Leaf or Britannia. 1/10 oz or 1/4 oz is probably the right amount for you.
I pay 1.4% over spot price buying a Maple Leaf 1oz. I pay 10% buying 1/2 oz. I didn't even look at the smaller coins.
The security features mean you can sell the coins for spot price. So i loose 1.5%, but with smaller coins you loose more.
If a dealer doesn't pay spot for your coins, walk away. The place where you bought the coin likely will.

>>55775604
also don't shill your gay ETF here, faggot

>>55775604
>You pay VAT for silver, so gold is your only option.
I just found this out as well.
Kinda sucks, but oh well.

Thank you very much for the general advice too.
I got 2 months worth of wages saved up, so I guess I'll wait a bit before investing. It's my first time earning my own money so yeah... not the brightest in terms of finances.
Where do you buy these ETFs? vanguardinvestor co uk is what google gives.

2) Send the money you can save to another account when the monthly salary comes, live from the rest
Do you have a separate bank account at another bank for this? Or just another "pocket" so to say with the same bank?

>>55775650
Thanks. I'll look into these. Too bad all these coins got some political figure on them.
I know that shouldn't be a factor in investing though.

>>55775662
I'm in Germany.
In Hungary every bank should be able to purchase ETF for you, but it might cost you.
It's best to have a separate account at another bank. I have my investment and savings at ING, the account is free and so is my bimonthly ETF savings plan.

Sadly i can't automate buying physical gold though.

>>55775694
You can also buy Philharmoniker, issued by Austria, but i'm not familiar with the security features. Everyone recognizes Maple Leaf or Britannia and you can very the security yourself.
Maybe Hungary has a coin too? It doesn't matter who issues the coin, all that matters is that it is recognized by you potential future buyers.

>>55775724
Thank you once again. I've seen some banks have similar system advertised I'll check in with them locally.
>Philharmoniker, issued by Austria
Those look much better, also plan to move there someday.
Thanks again.

>>55775767
Cheers mate. :-)
How much do you make a month? 100€ isn't much saved for a month.

>>55775779
900€ and I'll get some more soon as my trial period will be over and I'll get a work contract.
I can save up about 750€ each month because as I was a NEET for 10 years my mother isn't really taking much from me.
It's just that I was going to spend about 100€ on precious metals to mess around with it.
This is only my 3rd month on the job, so I got 1400~ saved up right now.
Pretty good for low-skill home office in my country I believe. I could make more if I went to Austria/Germany etc. as a forklift operator, but being a call center guy at home with a laptop is more comfortable.
Long term I plan to save up at least 400€ a month in a locked away manner, keep the rest liquid in case I'll need a to pay for a spine surgery.

>>55775828
I see. Everything seems to be in order then.

Buy your mother something nice :-)

>>55775459
The final form has not been decided upon.

>>55775459
Why so hostile? You seem like a man who is very worried about something.

lack of newly listed nice ones has me looking at gold german euro coins. does anyone have any of these? there is that gold 1 mark coin too.

>>55775539

I think you first need to ask yourself, why do you want to buy 100 euro a month of precious metals? To what end goal? If you just want to make passive income then put it into some ETFs. You're not ever going to see the day you cash out your phat stacks of metals, that's just a weird fantasy the metal stackers dream of.

If you want to invest in something you can use within your lifetime, then stocks/ETFs/bonds. Metals are what your family will sell at an estate sale for less than they're worth after you die.

>>55776561
>hurr durr metals won't move in our life time
please fuck off with this gay shit

>>55776591

Keep fantasizing kid.

On vacation with the slopfamily in Alaska. We stopped back in Anchorage. Was being an idiot wagie and I didn't save enough to buy a 5 or 10 oz bar or even a Natural Nugget.

>>55771175

They would launch nukes before they’d ever let that happen.

>>55776729
i was born in anchorage

>>55776729
neat round. i haven't seen one of those before. how's alaska?

>>55776749
launch nukes at one of the BRICS countries? don't think so

>>55776948
Very white when you get out of the cities. Which is quite nice. Temperatures are perfect. The store is right in Anchorage downtown, even a mint Workshop in the back. Fossils too.

>>55776995
Can't believe I forgot the image

>>55769682
i like this one!

>>55777005
Neat

What are the parameters that make gold and silver go up? Because it seems like any and every parameter makes it go down.

>>55775151
Danke anon. Your guardian animu is pretty. Also nice rabbit.

>>55777649
Yw, anon. I really like that chunky chunk of a silver piece. Who is your animu guardian, btw? The vibe here has been weird lately. Mostly just chuds masturbating to the thought of BRICs making their SHTF wetdreams come true. Stack posting has been on the decline. I'm picking up a very special coin from the post office tomorrow though (since my dickhead mailman thought it would be better to leave a slip on my door rather than ring my doorbell and get my signature). Tomorrow is going to be really busy for me, but hopefully I can snap a decent pic.

>>55777748
Fuck off troon

>>55777762
Case in point. A nocoiner chud making /pmg/ uncomfy and adding nothing of value.

>>55776561
>unironically recommending stocks and bonds

>>55777781
>T. The most attention-starved avatarfag ITT.
Why talk about your stacks when you can just make everything about your pathetic mental illness, right?
Go fuck yourself. You are a mentally ill man, who everybody can see through.
You are a disgusting, self-serving, petulant creature, contributing to the further degradation and destruction of decent, moral society,
You will eventually leave your 3 oz “stack” to your cat, since your family will be too disgusted to enter your trashed, hedonistic living space
Your entire life is your fetish. You are disgusting.

>>55777748
:)

>>55777840
Federal debt held by the public is projected to rise from 98 percent of GDP in 2023 to 118 percent in 2033—an average increase of 2 percentage points per year. Over that period, the growth of interest costs and mandatory spending outpaces the growth of revenues and the economy, driving up debt. Those factors persist beyond 2033, pushing federal debt higher still, to 195 percent of GDP in 2053.

>>55777855
Hewwo (notices stack) OwO What's this?

>>55777781
Also the straw man in your argument is so intellectually dishonest that it makes me sick.
Do you really create such constructs of
Your critics, in your head? You attach absolutely everything to the material. I don’t doubt you can hold onto precious metals. Nobody called that into question.
I doubt your worthiness to be labeled as a thinking, conscious, moral human being. I doubt your decency, I doubt your existence will continue, statistically, in the next few months, let alone years.
I know that by most metrics you’ve got a 50/50 percent chance of posting here much longer, so the only silver lining in the reeking miasma shit-cloud that I can sense around you, even digitally, is that nobody on this blessed general will have to deal with your astroturfing much longer, you fucking FAGGOT

Forgot to post this the other day. Gold revaluation is pretty much a certainty.

anyone buying these even at these prices, they've always seemed to be less popular than the common corona and no one in this dead general seems to mention them and also this big of discount could mean a gold crash as well but im feeling schizoid

>>55777925
and it will be revalued at levels we cannot even imagine

>>55778003
>and it will be revalued at levels we cannot even imagine
We have some idea (and this is outdated as well), but we will not know until the day comes.

Haven't been buying in a while, wtf is up with gold premiums? Shits ridiculous.

>>55777974
libertycoin always has good deals
they're great

I was on welfare for 6 years unironically until I realized the value of PMs and took the SWEAT pledge. Thank you Mike

>>55778011
exactly, $50,000 an ounce
that's what we're talking about
it's happening

>>55777925
I'm not sure what 'revaluation' means - they're taking inventory of their gold reserves?

>>55778023
>>55778023
>>55778023

Anyone else afraid of the future moment when cash is outlawed and cBDCs are rolled out? I've got my stack of PMs and my country home etc. but as a Westerner I don't think we will fare this change well

People post anecdotes of Latin American or African countries that trade breakfast cereal for gold flakes or other commodities. they don't report the sale to the gov. People keep secrets there.

But here it's a different mindset (for now?). If you were to try to make a deal with they would run straight to the government and dob you in. They would happily swallow the government lines. They would post about traitors on social media.

I think a lot of time and suffering would have to pass beforew Westerners learn to work together like 3rd worlders. What do you think?

>>55778041
If the central banks can't pay off their rising debt, they will simply revalue their fiat currency against gold. This allows them to create enormous liquidity and avoid default. If you're wondering why they won't do it now, it's because the people will find out that gold is real money. This will create a craze of people swapping out their fiat money for gold as fast as possible, bringing it back into circulation which the banks do not want because it decentralizes money taking their parasitic power away.

>>55778082
what are you seeing that seems so high?

>>55778115
$50 premiums on 1/10 oz online. Seems kind of steep.

>>55778155
Wait till you see the silver premiums. 20% is common

>>55774067
The most I found in the wild is a silver dime around 2010ish

>>55778031

>>55771175
I don't think nukes are what they're going to use but war is definitely the West's only ace up their sleeve to try to stop the tremendous transfer of wealth that's about to happen.

I TURNED MYSELF INTO SILVER BULLION MORTY!
>>55778155
That's very commonplace for fractionals. You should be going for a 20 LMU coin or a British sovereign for low premiums around that price point.

>>55778296
Could you send a pickle Rick piece of silver to one of those grading companies and have them really grade it and case it like that?

>>55778296
Wow, and to think I spent all my $1 pickle Ricks at souvenir shops when I was on holiday on Cock Island. You never know what coinage is going to end up being a numismatic, huh.

>>55778319
Yes. According to the census reports there are 75 Pickle Ricks graded by NGC and 1 graded by PCGS.
>this is why it takes 6 weeks for my coins to get graded

>>55778332
I don't care how long, is that expensive?

>>55778332
The US census is only asking these things in preparation of confiscation, followed by gold reevaluation, so they can bring about CBDCs to usher in their demonic era of techno tyranny. If you told the feds about your pickle Rick stash, your not going to WAGMI. In fact it's probably already Joeover for you. Not even a boating accident in Minecraft will save you.

>>55778345
About $80 either company, few dollars more to get it imaged like that
>>55778350
The grading services call their submission records censuses/population reports

finally

>>55778350
The US government is not capable of accurately tracking all of these coins. Even though the conspiracy, if you can call it that, is true, they are just too incompetent to really know where these coins are or how to somehow reclaim them.

>>55778363
>The grading services call their submission records censuses/population reports
What a convenient ruse to trick the goyim into divulging their precious metals.

>>55778372
Happy for you, anon. I know you've been patiently waiting for this coin for a while.

>>55778382
Don't delude yourself. The US military has IVAR, XM250s, AbramsXs, B-21s, and nuclear weapons. When SHTF, they'll come and take all your MS70 $1 pickle Rick Cook Island coins and there's nothing you can do to stop them.

>>55777885
you don't get it. if she's posting here she's obviously gmi because skills pay bills. rope chance reduced to 0. your accusations are tldr and as empty as your soul.

>>55777781
my favorite pmg anonette keeping it comfy while stacking :>

>>55778466
she's MINE back off anon

All fucking trannyfaggots must fucking hang.

Reminder that gatekeeping works as the immune system of internet communities. Those who are against it, seek to give and infect every community on the internet faggotry and AIDS.

>>55778466
Awe thanks, anon. I do a little goofin here, but you get it! Stacking is based!

>>55778493
A battle that can only be settled by stack size. Begun the stacking wars have.

>>55778466
>anonette
You will never be a woman, you delusional faggot.

>>55778495
>>55778517
Unfathomably based and redpilled posts

>>55778495
Memecoins and all stacking in general has been a profit oriented market with spot ignorance while getting whales to pay insane premiums for a long time. The "tranny stacker" meme is just a tactic to make money that isn't anything new. Ignore it and understand when you hold and warn newfags about hype and impulsive purchasing. Never buy out of fear or vanity, in any market.

>>55778104
Thank you

>>55778517
Oh neat. Silver taken with a Gameboy camera. Got any gold, anon? Haven't you heard? A German bank is about to reprice it at $50,000 an ounce! Buty before it's too late!

>>55778535
Fr. I remember flipping through my Grand Papa's vintage meme folder and came across a number of B&W and sepia toned tranny stacker memes. They were common adverts in the newspapers, published by bullion stores who wanted to capitalize on the suzzling hot market of transgender stackers.

>>55778565
You're the new IQDELET and it's a weird tactic

>>55778565
50000? more like 500k after half the world gets nuked and we lose all the gold

Anyways, it's well past my bedtime, but I just want to remind the hatefull people ITT, especially the ones who threaten me with violence and death, that you will never ever do anything IRL, because you're all complete cowards. All you'll ever do is hide as anons and regurgate stale /pol/ memes. You'll live your entire lives in fear of how people in the real would (rightfully) judge you if your twisted beliefs were ever made public. Meanwhile, I live my life authentically and make meaningful connections with people because I have the courage to be myself and be happy and beautiful. You lot will one day die, having never taken any meaningful action for anything in your sad little lives, not even for yourselves. It's pathetic.

Ni ni, cowards. And remember, you'll never do anything but cope and seethe anonymously on the internet while I stack gold and silver and be pretty and loving IRL.

>>55778584
Lurk moar, newfag.

>>55778654
I've been on this site since /n/ and /g/ and other IBs longer than you have, degenerate pederast.

Your ilk has never been accepted here in this general and never will be.
Make your grieving disappointed parents proud for once and leap off a six storey building.

>>55778011
What do you think silver or other metals will go to in the event of this occurring?

>>55778654
>that projection
I find it amusing that you actually managed to type that out so passive-aggressively like a catty woman, despite the fact that you will never be one.
>y..you won't do nuffin
One day, your desire to attention-whore will become so great that you will slip-up and end up doxxing yourself, loony troon.

The cheese pizzas are waiting, fruitcake.
Remember that.

>>55778031
The final redpill is taking gibs and and buying PMs with that. It's easy to stack 100oz of silver a year this way. Let them pay for the silver bullet you shoot them with.

>>55778654
Disgusting, there is a containment board for you people

>>55778719
>What do you think silver or other metals will go to in the event of this occurring?
No idea, but it won't matter because we're heading to a metal deficit in the upcoming decades (watch video).

https://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos

stfu nerds, I get to fuck the trannies. I will offer them vast lands, a home, bathtub estrogen of my own making and my giant cock. I will have a tranny harem and be happy. sieg heil.

can any german/euro vouch for this site
https://www.heubach-edelmetalle.de

>>55778916
It's a real German shop, listed on gold.de. I bought RMs there. Worked fine. Honest business. Nothing much else to say about them. Go wild.

>>55778983
thanks :)

>>55776072
I'm worried turd worlders put all their eggs in that basket only to find out they now get fucked by the Communist Party instead of by the USA. The USA is greedy, we know and share their motivations. But ultimately, they understand that dictatorship leads to suffering.

You turd worlders don't seem to be able to understand what it means to have the CCP boot on your neck.

In the end you will cry for help or food or both. Then you will say the USA did this and continue to have a chip on your shoulder.

>>55776561
Valid question. I for one don't share the silver will grow theory. For me gold is just a transfer of value from now to when i need money or retire to buy a boat or something. 1oz of gold is enough to life a month, that was true 2000 years ago, it's true today. I don't mind how much fiat you have to pay to get it, it will always be one month worth of goods in relation.
So 12 oz are a year not working. 20 oz are a modest car. 60 oz are a 50% down payment for a small house.
I will probably stop at 10 or 20 oz.
Putting money into other assets makes sense, i buy ETF too. It has far outperformed gold or silver and i have cashflow from some dividends too.

Thoughts on gold plated collectables? They seem like cheap easy ways of getting younger relatives into stacking via birthday gifts and shit. Find them a gold plated yugioh card or something they like such as the gold plated spongebob ingots. I know they're useless towards a stack though. Sometimes it'd just nice to have something shiny but when they cost the same as a silver 1oz, the oz is always better.

>>55778517
>you will never be a woman

Another form of demoralization. Why shouldn't there be women on 4chan? It's an anonymous board after all; you wouldn't know who you're talking to.

>>55779077
There could be women, but 4chan attracts only mentally I'll trannies.

Does PAN MAN still post

I feel like being a bad girl tonight...

>>55779218
>PAN MAN
he's too busy working r/n

>>55779241
ywnbaw

>>55779267
PAN MAN too busy panning?

Why doesn't a red stock market equal a green gold or silver

>stock market goes up
>mining stocks go down because PMs are less attractive
>stock market goes down
>mining stocks go down because they're stocks

>>55779452
Just buy gold coins, bro.

>>55779404
Because reasons and such

>>55769007
If you want to stack copper (don't do it) then buy it as wire from an electrical store. Copper bullion is an absolute meme due to the premiums.

>>55770028
Nice collection anon.

>>55767887
As many pre owned mixed date gold sovereigns as you can afford

STOP SHITTING UP THIS GENERAL TRANNY GLOWNIGGER KIKE FAGGOTS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>55778322
tranny stackers get the rope, if you don't rope yourself first

>>55767571
>top right
I thought at first it was an indian street-shitting commemorative coint

>>55780049
>>55780056
BASED

>>55779313

ywnbam

>>55778429
>The US military has IVAR, XM250s, AbramsXs, B-21s, and nuclear weapons
We couldn't defeat the Talaban lol.

>>55778429
>he US military has IVAR, XM250s, AbramsXs, B-21s, and nuclear weapons. When SHTF, they'll come and take all your MS70 $1 pickle Rick Cook Island coins and there's nothing you can do to stop them.
i'm genuinely baffled at how stupid you must be to type this after two failed counterinsurgencies back-to-back

>>55778699
>>55778726
>>55778783
>>55780049
>>55780056
>>55780103
>>55780192
Looks like I struck a nerve. Try to make the most out of your coping and seething, because it's all you'll ever do.

>>55779055
American here, born and raised. But I don't buy American propaganda. Anyone who has actually looked at the history of American foreign policy would know that it has nothing at all to do with promoting freedom or democracy. More often than not (since WWII anyway) America kills off democracies and installs dictators.

>>55778820
Based.

PSA

/pmg/ is not a mental health support group
Keep your masochistic fetishes, body dysmorphia and sexual deviance out of precious metals discussion
Off topic content will be jannied

Thank you

>>55780264
holy cope batman, nobody is going to rope the general population so their kids can be groomed by pedophiles

>>55780308
The best way to bring back the high quality of this general is to post screen caps from older /pmg/ and SETF threads.

Today is the day. I'm going to pick up a very special coin from the post office this morning. It's something that will go completely over the heads of most the retards posting now though.

>>55780308
>chud anons start blabbering about trannies and muh this and muh that
>"DuRrR y Do TrAnAnoN dO tHiS ?"
Well bless your little heart, you poor thing.

>>55780312
Lol. You're kids are all going to be trans and queer and there's nothing you can do about it but off yourself as you find the world has no place for you and your hatred. Ironic that when you inevitably do that, it'll just result in even more LGBTQ stackers

pedo stackers > lgbt conservitards

most lgbt crowd aren't even gay, just need an excuse to bomb the middle east, americans are retarded gun toting nationalists, you're all nazis and you will all eventually be murdered by real communists like ceaucescu and jin ping, bernie supporters are homeschooled skinhead retards and are jealous of slavic people.

>>55780308
Anon your gold bar looks like copper. Are you sure thats four nines fine?

>>55770016
>I fail to see why i should pay more for coins that may or may not fake.
ESL

>>55780442
Yes I am sure

>>55769987
nifty lil chest full of sterling
i have something similar

>>55773821
Crusader rugged?

>>55780593
no, he's just an impatient faggot and / or a troll

>tfw in my small town grocery store all the old lady cashier's know me as "the coin guy"
>TFW they know I'm on the lookout for old coinage all the time
>usually they just find me special mints they hadn't seen before, olympic or memorial quarters and stuff like that
>sometimes they really come through
>one found a 1965 Canadian Quarter for me (silver)
>Another found me a 1964 quarter
Feels good to be the best boy in town. They all think I'm great and always update me on the status of their cash registers whenever I'm in. I usually just go home and wash them with boiling water and baking soda in aluminum foil to clean off the tarnish. The one on the bottom left is from the Carribean States. Not silver, but I got it for free from one of the cashier ladies, because she didn't know what to do with it when it turned up in her till. Top left is 1945, Canadian, so it's the previous King not the previous Queen.

>>55780442
Looks fake to me too. You can always tell there's something off about them.

>>55767571
very nice

What does /pmg/ think of my side hustle idea
>Have diversified portfolio of stocks and bonds + low cost of living while living and working with family
>Want to stack too
>Buy scrap PM's, broken jewellry, PM's at or near spot price
>Melt into billets, work billets into jewellry and sell online/social media prescence
Worst case scenario is I stack billets of PM's as cheaply as possible, best case sceanrio I start a profitable business, I'm already practcing my metal work on base metals in my spare time and researching what sells on Etsy/Ebay and how to make a good social media precence, I have contacts for a web precence and advertising/photography and I know where to get the materials I need once I've got the skills.

>>55780729
nice collection

>>55780921
>PM's at or near spot price
yeah gl with that one bro
only way to do that is scam dumb boomers online who don't know what they got

>>55780964
Thanks fren. I have far more, these are just the coins I've recently been given by the old ladies in town. I'll post some more later but most of my collection pictures also have guns in them because I stack as much lead as any other metal lol

Fresh Tuesday morning bread baking
>>55781026
>>55781026
>>55781026

>>>/pol/437244728
BUMP for Disclosure Now!

>>55780982
>he can't buy silver at spot price
Why even live?

Are Asahi Silver Buffaloes worth stacking compared to ASE? It’s a known name so it seems worth more than the raw metal price but less than APMEX, ASE, or others.

Also curious as to whether or not anyone has bought from Liberty Coin’s eBay account. They seem legit but could be a scammer posing as the legitimate company.

>>55782357
Not really
>>55782372
They're legit