/biz/ - Business & Finance

What were the two companies that were good at processing uranium? Kazatomprom and who was the other

BLS fake jobs report in the morning

This month's TD action list just dropped and here is probably the most relevant bits
Also I feel cheated because last month was 94 pages to digest, this is just 14 pages and most of it is disclaimers

https://www.mining.com/canadian-deep-sea-miner-tmc-to-seek-licence-in-2024/

Looks like the Metals Company is going for a deep sea mining permit for the coming year. I wonder how effective their gear will be.

>>55745274
>Impossible. GBR was bought at around 2 billion. SGD is at 800 right now. You might get a 4x at best in my opinion.

Yeah a 4x for Valley, but the bigger gains will come from making new discoveries, which they are poised to do this drill season. Valley/Gracie will probably get spun out into a separate entity before a buyout.

>>55747032
What does deep sea mining consist of? How do they actually deep sea mine?
Is it like drilling? Or do miners go down in diving suits?

>>55747855
Scooping manganese nodules off the seabed with a robotic potato farmer and then pumping them back to the surface onto a ship

>>55747855
The TLDR is it's unproven technology and the greenies are doing everything to stop it because muh oceans, so beware because of that. But big potential upside.

>>55748246
Lame. It should be guys in scuba suits with pick axes.

Just got back from Thailand, what's the update on Bayhorse? Are we all millionaires yet?

>>55747740
>but the bigger gains will come from making new discoveries
It just reinforce what I'm saying then. You'll get a spin out from your initial shares in SGD for a new discovery (that is very risky, nothing is sure about this new one). A new buyer right now get nothing from SGD and not enough of the new entity.

Its just better buying Gogold for this market cap and riding the silver bullmarket. Or aim at other discovery that has been made but still not priced in.

NFG chads, how are we doing?

>>55749497
waiting for shorty to die or gold to moon

Frens, just a reminder when you buy or sell to set a limit price and never do "market" orders. Look at what some kike is trying this morning in picrel

VRR VR Resources is rags to riches story of the year for DIAMOND discovery !!!!!!
Place your bets before its to late ;)))))

500 metres of pure kimberlite = multi billion $ discovery story

potential 100 bagger for Northway alone!!!!!

>>55748770

Gayhorse, now that is a name I haven't heard for
a long time

Diamonds all around Northway so the odds are pretty high we see diamonds coming out of the ground DE-beers looking at VRR as we speak for this once in a life time opportunity a shot a rags to riches and just maybe the largest new Diamond Kimberlite Discovery Field in the world coming

>>55750497
>>55750509
>>55750518
>>55750550
wait wait wait

are we talking dollartown here???

Kill yourself rocket red you kike faggot. You don't even know how to post gifs you fucking retard.

wazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz up!!!! BRAND NEW KIMBERLITE DISCOVERY IN ONTARIO 300 acre kimberlite pipe that is a monster
vrr has the best shot today of all juniors risk rewards as this set up you don't see often

>>55746269

>>55750567
you got no shares ROTFLMAO :))))))))
when the diamonds show up this board will be all over VRR better get your position before your left out :)

>>55750497
>>55750509
>>55750518
>>55750550
>>55750582

>>55750604
>you got no shares ROTFLMAO :))))))))
Correct. I'm more likely to make money by shorting your shitty pick, whatever it is. I didn't read it.

Kill yourself.

>>55750584
Weak jobs number with wages hot, stagflation is here.

Crescent Point Energy looking great

Snowline now more per share than NFG

Oh, noes, Brunswick broes!

>>55751019
GV has been pumping hard, the retard even sold more Snowline the day before their monster assays, has Brunswick hit anything economic yet?

>>55751067
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/brunswick-exploration-intercepts-26-5-100000853.html

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/brunswick-exploration-intercepts-25-1-110000985.html

>>55748860
>gogold

You mean a company that actually produces that was called out by Rick rule for having "good management" with a massive proven resource and a massive exploration program with 70 million in cash with a 600m Mc?

No. I want shitline gold. It's in the middle of nowhere with no infrastructure and no deleopment whatsoever and it's already pumped 10x. Because number go up.

On a serious note. Look at avino gold and silver.

>>55750970
You should really take some profits on that. At least use the profits to diversify.

Just got a job as a commodities lawyer (shipping & international trade) and I know absolutely nothing about the market. Is there a commodities journal/ paper analogous to say trade winds?

>>55751124
it's tempting but I don't have a lot of shares so I'm probably in it until the buyout

>Live Cattle

>>55747855
depending on the deposit, its pretty simple but impractical and destructive.
You send down a drone mining rig, usually on tracks, hooked up to a big dredge unit. The machine mines material like nodules from the sea floor and its sucked back up to a ship designed to recover the resource.

>COMT
>https://www.ishares.com/us/products/270319/ishares-commodity-etf
>is a commodity ETF
>top 10 holdings are banks and US bonds
What are some good commodity ETFs?

DXY -.75 today, gold/silver should be way up

I boughted this last October expecting europe to freeze (lol heatwave!!11!1) so it's been a painful year but finally back in the black on it.

>>55750550
>Diamonds

On the Energy fuels/ Fuelcell energy combo of the gods. Rollin for good fortune

Wrn didn't shit the bed before earnings. Interesting development. Asm fanboys. What's so good about it? Got abit but im looking at it form a 1x, i'm happy with that. Is really worth holding until the bull cycle begins in 2030

>>55750669
>Weak jobs number with wages hot, stagflation is here.
I like to keep track of your failed predictions about US economy.

How do you suppose this one will age?

>>55751019
Screenshot tranny are you okay?

>>55755419
US economy is dead in the water like I predicted. Once again the dane is correct.

>>55755664
>US economy is dead in the water like I predicted.
the rich are getting much richer, the poor are getting much poorer. The average of the two is static

you are poor so you see the economy getting worse. I am rich so I see the economy booming.
We aren't the same.

>>55755759
Everyone is about to take a haircut when the market commits seppuku.

>>55755664
You've never made one call. About anything. Ever
You are a plague

>>55755787
You've been wrong so far, no reason to think you'll be suddenly and randomly right now.


Eventually the market will crash, and if you say it'll crash all the time eventually you'll be right. But it's been a long time since our last serious crash. 15 years or so. We're overdue but you keep being wrong against all odds.

>>55755800
Sometimes I think the only reason the US isn't in a depression is because the dane keeps saying we're going to crash and the universe hates him.

>>55755830

>>55755850
I don't have the insight that comes with an IQ of 130 and a residence in northern yurop

but as a humble businessman in the US the way I see it nobody wants to work for $50k when rents are $30k and mortgages are $75k. So the poor get more welfare, the rich get more profits, and the middle get more bargaining power. This isn't a bad time for any of them.

>>55755928
>implying that retards IQ is anywhere remotely close to 130

Why even give him the satisfaction?

>inb4 his "totally for real guys" internet IQ test results get posted again

>>55755800
Get lost schizo jew lover.
>>55755807
>I'm wrong because I didn't call the crash to the exact day
fuck off bob.

>>55755961
>Why even give him the satisfaction?
I like the little guy, he makes me laugh.
>>55755965
>fuck off bob.
we were both here before you, and we'll be here when you're gone.

what crash did you call? I'd say 2008 we had a crash. You were shitting in diapers then
we had a mini-crash in 2020 but I don't count it because Trump recovered it and turned it into a boom

do you think we've had a crash since then? Is it a crash if nobody cares?

>>55756003
>he makes me laugh.

While I agree, you really shouldn't be enabling mental illness.

>>55756012
>you really shouldn't be enabling mental illness.
kek

I don't need to explain 4chan to you

>>55755961
I know it's a fan favorite.
>>55756003
We will have a real recession much worse than in 2020 because this one can't get papered over. Just wait and see bob.

>>55756035
Post your no-chin inbred ancestor next.

>>55756035
I will wait and see

as I said, eventually you'll be right because crashes happen

so far no luck for you though. I've made $2 million since 2020 and even if I lose everything I came out ahead of you because I lived like a king for 3 years while you were waiting for a crash.

>>55756037
Your entire family tree hasn't accomplished 1/10th of what he did. Keep seething pleb stock.

>>55756049
>Keep seething pleb stock.
my ancestors did similar, but I never caught up with some of them.

good stock doesn't matter bud. It's what YOU do that matters.
or what you don't do. Make your ancestors proud.
or jealous

>>55756049
Keep coping with your delusions of grandeur.

Live vicariously through the supposed accomplishments of your ugly danish "aristocrat" great grand daddy, while accomplishing nothing yourself and boasting to strangers on a Laotian banana picker forum.

>verification not required

>>55756058
Actually good stock does matter a lot because genes will determine what you do.
>>55756066
Y'all keep saying I'm poor and haven't accomplished anything, but you obviously have no idea. Not sure why you are so buttmad, did you score low on an iq test?

>>55756035
>it's a fan favorite.
5th time is a charm

what's this pic mean?
Dane?
Geat Dane?

>>55756077
You've yet to prove you have accomplished anything. You only boast about inconsequential, unproven shit.

An internet IQ test means nothing. The painting your ugly inbred ancestor had commissioned of himself means nothing.

>>55756077
>genes will determine what you do.
a genius wouldn't make that mistake at the roulette wheel of genetics

>>55756083
That you worship jews and like to put stuff in your bumhole?
>>55756086
How many paintings do you have of your pleb ancestors?
I don't care about proving anything.

>0108 in Denmark.
>The Dane is drunk.

BNE is my oil play

>>55756086
Also here is the test, lets see how y'all geniuses do
https://mensa.dk/iqtest/

>>55756116
>I don't care about peving anything

Exactly what someone who has nothing to prove would say. If that were the case, you wouldn't be boasting.

>>55756116
>That you worship jews and like to put stuff in your bumhole?
close

it means I scored higher than 161 on a Stanford Binet or 155 on Raven's Progressive Matrices

at least 10 standard deviations above you

I am to you as you are to a literal retard

you are a literal retard to me.

>>55756155
You type like a retard, just saying.

>>55756138
I barely boast about anything and y'all still mad as hell.
>>55756155
Doubt.

>>55756164
>You type like a retard, just saying.
yes, to a retard a genius sounds like a retard
>>55756167
>Doubt.
apply for membership. You'll need to do better than 130 on an online MENSA version of RMP

This thread turned ugly fast. It's supposed to be about the awesomeness of commodities and mining, not bitter flame wars.

>>55756206
found the reddit janny

>>55756206
We're all already getting rich on oil right now, I'd hope. The fall shortages are arriving right on pace.
What else to say?

>>55756217
Childishness
Talk about mining and commodities

>>55756260
I have 30+ years experience in the hard rock metals mining industry

you faggots would rather talk about your internet IQ

what do you want to know? I can tell you anything and then you can call me an idiot.

Alright, perhaps it's time to talk about this tin export ban coming from Myanmar.

>>55756300
Freeport-McMoran lol
Try a coal mine.

>>55756300
>what do you want to know?
How would you name your exchange listed mining company and would you hire /cmmg/ anons?

>>55756300
I bet Freeport-McMoran paid you $35 an hour in a high cost of living area and didn't even offer free health insurance for your whole family. No union, either

>>55756411
coal isn't hard rock metals mining

it also pays half the wage while killing twice as many people.
I've worked for every major operating in the US as well as a lot of mids and juniors
>>55756420
I would never list a mining company on an exchange because that's fraud

If I did, I would hire pan man as ops manager, lassen security and marketing, me as the janitor, and bluesmonke as the safety officer, CFO, and laborer

>>55756167
You only post your internet IQ test results and boast about how great you are in every other thread.

How about instead of posting your ugly inbred ancestor you post some valid calls you made or successful trades?

Oh right, you don't have any.

How many times did you redo that internet IQ test until you got those results? Post some real proof like an invigilated IQ test.

>verification not required

>>55756444

>>55756447
Okay but would you hire me?

>>55756468
do I know you?

>>55756474
Not until I show you my cv and give you a firm handshake

>>55756484
kek

I hire family

lots of family

>>55756490
Based nepotist.

>>55756179
19 posts and counting. Not a single thing of value you've said. Just dozens of lines wasted because you can't complete a sentence without double tapping enter.
Unfortunate.

>>55756527
It's the boomer way
>>55756544
>19 posts and counting. Not a single thing of value you've said.
Yes.

you're learning

at least my posts haven't LOST you any fucking money, and they never will. This thread is ass.
If you want to talk about mining I'm your man
If you want to talk about making money I can help with that too
but the 2 don't go together the way you think
you are a fool. I am here to teach you better.

>>55756544
I made more money in a year of working for mining companies than you will in a lifetime of investing in them.

if that has no value to you, then so be it.

>>55756544
People just like you literally pay my salary and I make far more than you ever will.

this is valuable information if you know what to do with it.

>>55756627
>>55756569
I'm more of an oil investor, sorry.
Most of the portfolios here are sub 6-figs, so I wouldn't be surprised that your annual income exceeds theirs. To be honest, I'm not sure why people like to spend time on active investment strategies with such small savings. On the bright side, if they do become successful trading/investing, it tends to be highly scalable.

But if you want to share some stories, that could be interesting.

>>55756671
I'm a mining contractor, not an investor

I would never put money into mining or industry because I already know where that money goes

I don't have annual income, that's wagie talk.

I have a business that does millions a year in revenues, and I have banks lining up to lend me cash. Mining money. Your money.

>>55756700
You talk like it's impossible to make good money trading dumpster penny stocks. It's not that hard to derive a decent income, pay minimal or no taxes, and do almost no real work.

That frees your time up to do anything you want.

>>55756700
>I don't have annual income, that's wagie talk.
Salaries are wagie talk. Annual income is what you pay taxes on. It includes business income, cap gains, etc. Although I meant it more in a general sense, ignoring bonus depreciation and such.
Do you have a better term?

Anyway, I agree that mining industry investments are largely scams. At least in the public sector. As a sector insider, have you ever been gifted shares related to "consulting" or other services? Have you ever participated in a private placement?
I'd be interested to hear some tidbits on what that grift looks like from the inside.

>>55756753
>have you ever been gifted shares related to "consulting"
hell no, I'd never take equity in lieu of cash

grift is all on the retail side, the industry workers don't fall for that shit
>>55756748
maybe.
nobody here has ever done it and posted bigger gains than I make working for mining companies though.
I've made a million a year for the last 20 years in case you'd like to give it a try.

>>55756748
>You talk like it's impossible to make good money trading dumpster penny stocks
You can make money playing poker too, but the average person loses. It's negative sum. Trading those trash heaps is the same way.
I've had success trading, but I think this concept is important to understand. The "index" may appreciate over time on average, but that doesn't mean there's infinite free money to go around. It's a competition, and the stinkier the turd you choose to compete in, the less likely it is that the average person comes out with profit.
In general, the rational decision is not to play.

>>55756790
You don't need to make millions a year to live a comfortable life. You also need to do work to derive those millions. You may enjoy the work, but it's still work.

>>55756798
Fortunately, I can scarcely scrounge a fuck up for what your average joe manages to do or not do. I make it work and have a reliable track record. That's all I need to know.

>>55756816
>You don't need to make millions a year to live a comfortable life.
indeed

and making a million a year won't necessarily make you comfortable

but we are talking about making money, and even if you're happy with $10 a year you have to admit $1000000 is more.

>>55756816
>You also need to do work to derive those millions. You may enjoy the work, but it's still work.
this is an important point

I cannot work more than you can

I only have as many hours in a day as you do

so if my hours pay 100X what yours do, I have not worked harder
only better.

>>55756824
Yes, a million is more than 10, but I make much more than $10 from the stock market. If that ends up being less than you make at the end of the day, what does that matter to me? All I care about is furnishing my life with my wants, spending my time as I see fit, and perpetuating my portfolio's track record.

>>55756832
Indeed, it is an important point.

I can comfortably live on my stock profits and want for nothing. I don't need to trade my time away for money.

>>55756857
You're all set then and I have nothing to offer you


to those that need more money I advise you start a service business selling to government and industry.
or both invest AND start businesses

but if you're already happy I have nothing to give you. Be well, enjoy your happiness.

>>55756869
At the end of the day, all I want is a life that flows in quiet.

>Be well, enjoy your happiness.
Ditto, based boomer.

>>55756891
thanks

at the end of the day we just want to be left alone. If you've got that then you're just as rich as I'll ever be.

>>55750567
I'm dying that's too funny

>>55756206
It's the wkend. Just be glad I'm not drunk yet. Could get weird later tho

Tried to go skydiving today but they said I was shaking violently. Need to overcome my fears so I can continue investing in mining stocks

I should have asked on a wkend so I'll ask now. Big brain TA -looking at you BM & RW- would you mind looking into cathedral energy?
Also finnbro might be interested in them as they aren't the typical "hi torqued" oil play that I usually bring up in muh diggins. Cathedral does techy stuff. Like really really techy. So they're like step in that they have the knowledge, the equipment, and the people necessary to make moves in the coming refrac landscape
You guys all slept on step energy and they're doing well. Refracs is going places I'm just not confident in plays yet. The refrac tech tho I like and kinda understand what they hope to achieve
I wish as many anons helped with refrac DD with enthusiasm like they do gold explorers above the arctic circle maybe then /cmmg/ would make some money

>>55752610
XBM if you want to separate out oil. Crab along with the rest of us, the world doesn't much care

>>55756300
>what do you want to know?
How much is (affordable, i.e. for smaller mines/companies) automation a thing right now? Or soonish? How much human expertise, perception, decision-making, hands-on action is hard to replace? Can it be augmented at least?
How much different is mining in extreme environments (say, arctic) from rather normal environments? Are there break point (transportation costs not considered) where equipment, logistics, and workflow just stop functioning or become unaffordable?

>>55756569
>If you want to talk about mining I'm your man
Awesome. I'll ask a couple more questions in the coming weeks.

>>55756569
>If you want to talk about mining I'm your man
Okay, how is the outlook for coal mining in the United States in the next few decades?

>>55756700
Hey Rick, thsnks for droping by

>>55756447
>no red

Wtf man.

>>55757568
I'll check it out tomorrow

So it looks like Don durett doesn't know how to read Financial statements and he just got busted.

>>55759524
to be honest, they fucking called it "free cash (outlow) inflow", who the fuck does that beside a scammer ?

>>55756790
>hell no, I'd never take equity in lieu of cash
>grift is all on the retail side, the industry workers don't fall for that shit

You've never worked for a company where your inside knowledge of what's going on gave you an advantage in valuing the company and buying if it's on sale? Or selling if a bad quarter was coming up?

>>55756125
oshid am i a geniuz i got 140
all in salt/vul/lion one

>>55759536
Nigga what

>>55759524
>>55759536
Doesn't the outflow come from "investing activities" which means they turned free cash into investments? It's still an asset just not cash anymore

>>55758492
I'm not sure small mines even exist anymore in the US, they're all gone where I'm at. But nah, they couldn't afford automation. How much mines can be automated depends on if it's surface or underground Open pits are easier to automate because you've got 2 fewer faces that could crush equipment. Mines are already pretty well automated though. Operations that used to employ thousands of men now employ a few hundred because so many jobs primarily in drilling and haulage have been mechanized a lot.

As to temperature, Pan Man knows more than me about mining in arctic conditions, but underground it doesn't matter much and on the surface we have standard precautions like using different weight lubes, stronger antifreeze, leaving engines running, more frequent maintenance. Mines are often in inhospitable places, our equipment is built to survive worse conditions than most.
>>55758620
>how is the outlook for coal mining in the United States in the next few decades?
I dunno, what do you think about it?
>>55759874
>You've never worked for a company where your inside knowledge of what's going on gave you an advantage in valuing the company and buying if it's on sale? Or selling if a bad quarter was coming up?
oddly enough companies don't usually hand that sort of intel out to their contractors. I might hear things from the people I work with, but it's rumor and I wouldn't buy or sell based on employee chatter because that's constant and hard to judge.

>>55761386
>Mines are already pretty well automated though.
>our equipment is built to survive worse conditions than most
Great. Have still to look into what's state of the art.
From picrel, are there any you'd recommend to gain a general but substantial understanding of the whole process? Any other literature?

>>55759367
Danke

>>55759524
I don't twitter. Please explain like I'm a low IQ dane. Thanks in advance

>>55761386
>I dunno, what do you think about it?
Too much depends on government edict nowadays to predict much.
If it weren't for that, I'd say coal mining and power production in the US would go on for at least decades more due to the abundance and cost effectiveness of coal power.

>>55761386
depends on the location, winter work sucks, especially high arctic work. Summer is nothing but bugs, winter is brutal cold, so cold your teeth crack, and gear just snaps like lumber in -50. I dont want to go back to doing that again thank you.
Automation in arctic will be a challange, sensors dont like extremes in temperature.

>>55762345
The company stated they had a cash outflow aka a loss of 205 million and Don durett stated they had free cash flow of 205 million and incorrectly assumed it was income when it was actually a loss.

>>55762345
And for somebody like Don durett who sells a book on how to invest in mining companies and has followers and a paid service is quite frankly an embarrassing mistake.

>>55762909
He should do the books for the government

New archaeological evidence suggests the earliest coal mining occurred in China 3600 years ago.
>Now, the new study published recently in Science Advances has revealed that the earlier mining operations occurred in northwestern China about 3,600 years ago.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/coal-use-first-time-humans-b2385445.html

>>55760787
Maybe so, you would have to look at their presentation to see if they are building something new. Because sometimes they will put some pre stripping or whatever in there that that probably make more sense in sustaining capital expenditure.
There also seems to be some difference in what costs are included in the AISC measure.

>>55762909
To be fair, cash flow and net income are two different things, although they should align in the long run. Say you build a large mine, that will take your cash flow way negative due to investing in future cash flows.

>>55763487
Free cash flow and net income should align over time that its.

>>55763492
Although some things can affect it like issuing new shares give you free cash flow but no net income obv. Share buy backs vice versa.

>>55762912
Don's favorite picks were Aurcana, Alexco and Great Panther. He chased Emerita and his logic in buying was "it's starting to rocket, so it's now or never" and is way down there. He's a retard.

>>55756447
>three salaries
Yes boss
>safety officer
Helmets on, lads. It's penis inspection day. Standard safety procedure

>>55756447
>Security
No drug tests right boss?
Get the stainless steel cup so I don't burn the bottom out

>>55763487
Go and see his actual post. It was an elementary fuck up. He said "free cash flows of 205m" when it said "cash outflow of 205m" and he was using it to pump the stock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ24gcI0shs

gary has spoken

bumping

>>55764011
>It's penis inspection day.
kek
>>55764830
we're gonna need to test and make sure you have enough drugs in your body that everyone else is safe.
No exceptions

I threw 1000€ into oil stocks today

>>55765234
Maybe that wasn't such a good idea >>55767109

>>55762658
>Automation in arctic will be a challange, sensors dont like extremes in temperature.
Interesting point. Another issue in elevated (mountainous) areas could be increased radiation.

>>55765234
Went all in spy thanks

Week ahead:
>Monday Canada markets closed (Civic Holiday)
>Atlas CEO?
>Atlas Feasibility Study?
>Thursday CPI data 8:30 EST

did I miss anything?

Is Gary right and gold is not strong enough to hold up GDX? Should I sell in the morning? What are you guys doing?

TA is bullshit, as is this Gary nigger.

>>55768045
Does Gary even know this? (picrel) I don't follow the guy, but I noticed how closely GDX tracks silver about 3 years ago

>>55767378
>Another issue in elevated (mountainous) areas could be increased radiation.
not a problem really for equipment, but more of a problem for humans getting cancer

One of the places I work (Freeport's Climax Mine) is at 12-13k feet. I've had a couple skin cancers removed.

more interesting is that almost no equipment is rated to work that high, so employing machines at that altitude often voids the warranty, negates liability, and has questionable utility. In real life the cold temperatures and lack of oxygen concentration is usually a bigger factor than radiation.

>>55767790

I have a feeling Atlas will put out the announcement at 14th instead of this week, because Canadian markets are closed Monday and I doubt they want the important info out during short week.
Besides being as late as possible fits their style perfectly.
Still hoping for at least the CEO announcement coming up now and the FS next week so we'd have two pump rich weeks.

>>55768140
Interesting.

>>55749497
Supreme confidence.
Excited for Seismic Survey results.
This one is going to be one for the history books.

>>55749497
>>55769172
Kirkland Lake 2, eventually worth 10B+

>>55769222
Digits clearly confirm your statement anon.
Our boy ES knows what he’s doing.

>>55769255
checked

>>55768247
>questionable utility
Could you expand on that? Limited functionality? Hard/inconvenient to operate? Requires constant monitoring and care?

natural gas having a nice uptrend

>>55745506

Anyone placing their bets on NAK? Just recently the state of Alaska is taking the EPA to supreme Court to challenge the clean water act against the company (similar to the Sackett case).

>>55749497
I picked up 200 shares for my kids RESP. My kid is 7 months old, hopefully NFG is in production or bought out by the time he is old enough to use the money.

LK99 superconductor commodities play? MOS for potash mining, HL for lead mining. Skipping the CU because i think itll be a wash.

It's still so surreal that gold is not up bigly from retail still.
>stock market may collapse
>currency may collapse
>country may collapse
>world may collapse
>gold either sideways or bleeding
1 oz of gold ingested could cure disease and add 10 years of life and still people would be discussing Tesla.

>>55771805
People actually believe cpi numbers and inflation numbers given to them on major news networks on TV

Never thought I would say this but I'm tired bros. Hopefully we get a relief rally and memeline end up being true.

>>55772438
inshallah

>>55772438
I'm so tired of being a wagie AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>GDXU was cheaper than NUGT today
I had to buy some.

>>55771849
but they dont believe the numbers on their gorcery bills?
retail does not drive the gold price but the premiums you pay

new ATH

I had a rough idea for a business but I don't know how feasible it would be, and it's certainly not something I could do right now. I'm posting it ITT because it's based around debt and debt and M2 supply are macro indicators, and you are all intelligent people

Anyways, let's suppose I had a few million dollars and a legal team, etc. Most people are getting crushed on debt. Let's say credit cards, HELOCs, PLOCs, that sort of stuff. A lot of them have interest rate terms of 10, 15, 20% or more. Ugly stuff long term, but some people just live that way. In theory, you could inject $10,000 to $50,000 or whatever with a client so they could pay off their high interest rate debt, but then get a secured loan against their house or income for that amount, structured so that they repay you over 2-5 years at a lower rate, such as 6-10%. If it's secured or collateralized debt, such as a lien against their residence's equity, then the amount of risk is very low. Or am I missing something?

tldr, debt and interest rate arbitrage among consumers

>>55775414
I just realized that I invented debt consolidation, my bad.
But it's something that interests me, and involves fixed income instruments, and there's no shortage of clients. I was wondering what kind of pathway I'd want to take in the financial industry and this seems like something I could do

any oilers?
any updates? news?

https://twitter.com/profitsplusid/status/1688612008378380293
>Interesting development in Silver.
>We have a series of inverted head and shoulder patterns on the 2 year chart.
These are normally bullish patterns that resolve in higher prices.
>Outlined below is a series of longer term set ups from red to green to blue. Currently we may have another shorter term pattern forming in pink. We are also nearing the lower end of the upward price channel.

>>55775626
Is this guy a TA wiz to be able to make that claim? Or maybe a resident TA wiz can confirm?

any hope for Copper because of LK99? Copper is a beautiful metal but never gets enough love

>>55775712
Even if he's right, silver pumps to $27-$28 then goes back down.

>>55775749
The problem is that copper is so valuable for everyday use as a conductor, that it gets aggressively recycled to keep costs low.
Also, all the producers are in South America which have awful jurisdiction risks

>>55775895
"This time will be different"
-Gary Savage

>>55775620
I own Athabasca, MEG, and Cenovus. Just enjoying some gains not wanting to go over my skis.

Got some LEAPS on Cenovus 20C dated Jan25 for $3.70 to satisfy some fomo today. That Russian tanker attack is really bullish on WCS spread. Any interruption to urals is super bullish for Canadian heavy oil.

Wish Canadian Natural would follow Cenovus’s lead and pledge to return 75-80% of cash to shareholders. I want to own it, but MEG and Cenovus just offer a better value to shareholders. I don’t want my holdings fucking around in South American offshore with high decline rates.

>>55776102
I wish it was true

>>55775414
>am I missing something?
your clientele would be the very highest risk users of debt and they wouldn't need your services until they were on the verge of bankruptcy already

in a bankruptcy your lien or collateral would probably get wiped out

but yes, this is an existing service already. Usually combined with "negotiating" the client's debt down by not paying it for 6 months and then offering to pay it off for pennies on the dollar.

It's sorta a scam, and it's extremely high risk. But pays well enough that millions of companies are doing it.

>>55769435
>Could you expand on that? Limited functionality? Hard/inconvenient to operate? Requires constant monitoring and care?
all of that

you're basically testing the equipment for the manufacturer, and if it doesn't work you get nothing back. Usually stuff works at my altitude and climate, but not always. And rarely with normal efficiency, power, reliability. Some tech simply doesn't work here.

>>55769435
as mentioned, some tech doesn't work well in low oxygen environments (anything with an engine) but humans have even more trouble at this elevation and above.

machines need their oxygen, but Joe the miner needs it even more. Altitude literally kills people, and even more often disables them so they can never come back up here.

>>55777324
>in a bankruptcy your lien or collateral would probably get wiped out
I know very little about the bankruptcy process but figured if it was secured against the home equity it would have debt seniority, but I suppose the bank doing the lending would have dibs on it first. It was just an idea anyways

>>55777448
>I suppose the bank doing the lending would have dibs on it first.
yes exactly. First lien gets first dibs. You might be second, but more likely you're fourth or fourteenth
>It was just an idea anyways
It was a multi-billion dollar idea
not a bad idea at all.

>>55745506
my First Majestic stonk is been dumping and dumping

>>55777459
My problem is that I consider myself intermediate/advanced as far as the average retail trader goes, which puts me into peak midwit territory. I know enough about what to avoid and base familiarity about certain things to be competent to an outsider, but not competent enough to be a professional or make decisions that generate value over time.
I'm down only 35% from when I started 3 years ago, and this was during one of the biggest bullshit bull markets in history. Some people made disgusting multiples and others lost their ass. I've more or less averaged out. I can't get ahead but I can't fuck up either. I don't have the retard luck or savvy business sense to pull ahead. I suppose I'm just tired since I feel like I should be able to succeed with the knowledge I have but I can't.
Just need to get a consistent trading system figured out and I can start being cash positive for once. It's difficult to swing trade and accept a 4% win, but then it becomes a 10% loss. Or bad option spreads. I don't know

>>55767790
>>55768373
Saltfrens, could it be happening

>>55777577
>ceo is announced
>stock dumps 15%

>>55777657
only if it's a woman or a poo

>>55777577

Would be great if Salt's new CEO was someone from or affiliated with Compass, Morton or Fortesque or any other big players interested in the hydrogen or salt markets.
That could be an implication that the project is going to be sold for them and could basically just start a growth trend until the deal is done.
Got to admit holding has been pretty painful because of the god damn delays, but at least we're nearing the point of a new beginning and it'll get way more interesting.
Still I feel like we're not going to get any sale news or offers until TPR is sorted out.
Salt's ownership is way too large and so is the potential of TPR This can't just be sold like that without knowing how much money the hydrogen play might bring, because it could be even +1bil more to the value.

>>55777657

I honestly wouldn't even bat an eye if the stock was trading 40% lower a month from now, because there's a real possibility all of these news have been baked into the price already.

>>55777577
Investments don't go up only retarded meme stocks and over pumped bullshit.

>>55777344
>testing the equipment for the manufacturer
Sounds like one is bringing equipment designed for normal/moderate conditions to its limits to see how far those limits stretch.

>>55777412
>some tech doesn't work well in low oxygen environments (anything with an engine)
That's where space tech potentially shines. So far most space stuff is small-scale and experimental drilling and testing a bunch of sensors, actuators, and electric motors. I wonder how well that would scale to terrestrial applications. I don't want to underestimate the energy needed to drill and move heavy stuff and the wear and tear the material has to withstand under real mining conditions.
>Altitude literally kills people, and even more often disables them
Having a pressurized, temperature-controlled, radiation-shielded mining suit, would that be helpful and work? I immediately see the issues with it (donning and doffing is inconvenient, constrained fine motor skills), but can imagine that one could compensate that with tech tailored to operate with the suit to some degree.

Can you think of applications that immediately help and make life easier (and safer)? If I have a (smaller, approachable) use case, I can look into the required steps to build a prototype. That would teach me a lot about the issues involved.

I apologize for my naive questions while I still have to learn so much (reading books takes time), so thanks for all the feedback.

>>55777870
Nice salt mine pic. Salt mines are very aesthetic.
Still, I prefer the look of a nice coal mine.

>>55778478
Arent there suuposedly large underground cities with entrances in abandoned salt mines (the ones where several stories tall diggers can fit inside easily), apparently there are some settlements deep underground
My flat earth coworker claims this to be true

>>55778765
Subtropolis is a working limestone mine in Kansas City where non-working parts of it are leased out for warehouse space underground. There are other limestone mines like this too.

>>55778784
Excuse me. Subtropolis might not be a working limestone mine anymore, but there is another one that is and that leases its mined out space for underground, climate controlled warehousing.

>gArY iS tHe GoD oF tEa LeAf ReAdInG

>>55778784
>>55778786
Yeah that sounds about right. Schizoposting aside, its kind of a cool concept. Its very dark and dry and would be good for preserving things like seeds and art

>>55780210
>macro and market is extremely fucked
>rallies for some reason
>people take profits
>number go down
>NOOO, NUMBER MUST GO UP BEST ECONOMY UNDER BIDEN
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/companies-face-a-sell-the-news-market-reaction-to-good-earnings-results-right-now-213053339.html

The article feels like cope and damage control

I can't take much more bros

>>55780539
https://twitter.com/ThePivotQueen/status/1688881811063967744
>Silver getting some down pressure here target 22.38-22.40

https://twitter.com/Tradingchannels/status/1688896051430686720

I hate this motherfucker with a passion but he is always right...

>GDXU below NUGT again
This shit is going to Mars when it's time.

>>55780210
He said the market was going to go down.

>>55780539
It's rigged. I'm done.

>>55781400
Blue bro, Gary said get ready to move to 2090 and beyond soon.

>>55781453
I have to pay contractors this week and next and am having to sell. It's all good. Many jews will die.

>>55781400
We've known that

>>55745506
Came back to this shithole after 6 months, and I see it's still the same as it always was (Bob and renewfag's ball busting containment thread).

Any fellow /crude/ swingies here? I can't help but notice oil and coal have been perpetually taking the back seat on cmmg for a loooooong time now, we've been fully taken over by penny stock gold/silver lifestyle company shilling. Oh well, at least one in ten doesn't end up being a complete low wit scam, Snowline did good for once.

I was directed from /pmg/ to here. Check out Aston Bay Holdings. They hit huge copper deposits in Northern Canada, including native copper. Deposits this rich are unheard of outside the Andes of Chile and Peru. This could be a mammoth in the making.

>>55782696
Im not a crude swingie but it has been amusing watching it ping pong back and forth between 70 and 80 for nine months. I'm sure some people are getting rich off that.

>>55782886
got any info on their properties? whats their access like? Local infrastructure?

>>55782696
I started getting into swinging BOIL, but I haven't made any trades yet. Did some backtesting and have a simple system set up and I got a long entry on Friday, which would've been a clean 10% win. Probably another 2-3 weeks for another signal, I'll do it next time.

>>55782696
>>55782948
How's the SPR looking

>>55782696
>Bob and renewfag's ball busting containment thread
just good timing, I haven't been posting much. Busy with work and got rangebanned for a few months.

Pic related: another /cmmg pick.
>>55782886
Is that you, @RocketRed?

This could be a big year for Scottie with a steady flow of drill results arriving soon from their 20,000 meter program (17,000 at Blueberry).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoKcCc5l0WI

No one here tried to short this, right?

>>55783146
It's pretty remote in the Nunavut property, but access by sea is straight forward as it lies nearby shipping lanes.

>>55783428
What a coincidence
I never heard of them. Poor choice of words on my part.

>>55783720
>Nunavut
Unless they have access to existing infrastructure the prospects of any project going in Nunavut are pretty low. Its just too remote and inhospitable to do exploration programs there, even in the summer its gross. I ll have a look but i wouldnt be putting to much on these guys.

>>55783766
Definitely worth checking them out. Best of luck anon.

>>55778107
True, any company that actually produces anything normally has garbage tier stock values

>>55783815
The stock market is almost all speculation.

>>55783790
As suspected the locations in the middle of utter nowhere, even with Resolute being the next island over, its a massive headache to mobilize a drilling program up there. Shipping is the big bottle neck, getting stuff up there is expensive by ship or aircraft.

On the other hand, the locations incredible from an on the ground exploration view point, no overburden to work through, its all exposed rock. There are only a few places out there you can actually see the different formations from aerial photos. Its still a frozen hell hole though to work on, that would not be at all fun to work in even during mid summer.

Energy utilities warm EPA rule would eliminate affordable and reliable electricity

The EPA wants to ban CO2 as a pollutant, like with SO2. This would effectively shut down all coal and gas fired power plants in the U.S.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bidens-carbon-proposal-unworkable-us-180440909.html

14 days from now we will be rich.

>>55784246
Coincidently Gary said 2 more weeks.

>>55784246

>>55748770
>Gayhorse bros... it's Trudeau-ver

IMPUY, Impala Platinum. Any platinum guys in here familiar with it? It seems dirt cheap right now and I would love to slurp but the political and economic situation in South Africa is making me hesitant.

>>55785727
Bayhorse and Galleon trying to outdo eachother in destroying investor capital. IMO Galleon will be lower than BHS at some point this year.

Can I get some TA on cathedral energy?

>>55786154
Sprott still backs Galleon, they could do well if sentiment in miners ever comes back.

If the government and corporations want to "go green," then why are they opposed to remote work?
Commuting and offices emit pollutants and CO2.
This just shows the green agenda is a ruse.

how BRICS is being reported on in Dubai

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2023/08/08/Can-a-BRICS-currency-put-the-brakes-on-rising-dollar-dominance-

Should I short oil right now

>>55788566
thinking about is as well

Also Gas will hit the 3.00$ mark soon

Any opinion on SOVEREIGN METALS? SVML

Someone asked Rick about it some time ago and seems like he was slightly sperging.

Also Rio Tinto has strategic 15% share in it.

It's graphite and rutile mineral deposit in Malawi, Africa.

http://sovereignmetals.com.au/projectsrutile/

Concerned about China growing presence in Africa might slow down the projected 2024 launch. Opinions welcome.

https://newfoundgold.ca/news/new-found-intercepts-167-g-t-au-over-4-70m-at-iceberg/

Newfound Gold hitting great holes again!

I brought up Decade resources a while back then forgot about them again, it looks like they hit something big out at their Nobody Knows Property near Terrace BC.

https://golddiscovery.com/user/news_details/628245-decca-decade-announces-major-copper-discovery-at-the-nobody-knows-copper-project-terrace-bc

Great looking Bornite and Chalcocite

>>55785727
So you are saying there is a chance? I went to the archive and read all the DD by the horse posters, and they said it was a great buy, how could all the experts here be so wrong? I thought the experts here were mining engineers, geologists, experts in junior miners, experienced investors who did their own DD? There were a lot of photos, vids, technical figures presented and technical and financial discussion. What happened?

>>55783986
It's still pumping up 40% today. I wish that I had gone all in BAY.V lol.

>>55790346
lack of permits and updates from the ceo
I forgot which permit(s) was missing

how bullish are we about TSXV: KC, OTCQX: KCCFF ?

asking due to a friend
who is whispering in my ear about this

>>55790362
i ve seen it pop up a few times through twitter now too, they have an interesting property for sure but it will be a challenge doing anything up there.

>>55789993
My opinion is >Africa

>>55790619
Yeah, and I can see a private placement coming up sometime soon. Drilling up there requires quite a bit of cash. But it could be worth it if they keep hitting with the cores. I'm just swing trading this for now, but definitely keep it on your radar and if I hear anything else I'll post again. Good luck!

>>55777543
>swing trade
I've had some success selling into the CPI pump, which is tomorrow

>>55783986
Any idea of what they did at Polaris operationally to make things work? Obviously the tonnage/grade made it viable but any lessons Aston can take?

>>55790619
Looks like they have done away with the terms of an earlier private placement based upon their recent discovery and will be drafting up a more favourable one: https://stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2023/08/09/aston-bay-holdings-update-on-non-brokered-private-placement-and-share

>>55756569
Name my band /cmmg/

Ya'll niggas adding a QQQ put? Gary said decide for ourselves, but as tempted as I am I can't trust the rigged markets to pull the trigger with confidence. Maybe if all the cool kids here do it.

https://twitter.com/GlobalProTrader/status/1689314916828594176

What's up with uranium? I could get out with a small profit but I always do that before a takeoff and hate myself

>>55757568
>would you mind looking into cathedral energy?
Been a busy few days so I've only had time to shitpost but I did see this and will have a look soontm

>>55793723
where do you get all these monkey webms?

>>55793767
My monkey folder of course

>>55793843
Impressive collection.

>>55793864
Thanks, and that's just my animal folder. I've been here too long. My 4chan folder is still called "b"

The actual answer is I just pick them up on my travels across the handful of other boards I visit. Usually /an/ but you find monkeys everywhere.

>>55793932
Yeah I've been here since late 00s on /b as well. Back when 4chan was good. I just tend to start over when I get a new computer.

>>55794008
probably called you a faggot/nigger and/or been called a faggot/nigger by you at some point then lol. Good times.

I've lost my b folder a few times in the early days but these days I build my PCs and have multiple drives so a lot would have to go wrong at once to lose everything. Find some fun gems occsaionally when I'm bored enough to sift through it all.

Anyway it's bedtime here for me, goodnight

>>55794084
I think I have my old computers somewhere, I always meant to take the harddrive out to get my stuff on the new computer but I never got around to it. It's good nostalgia to see the old memes for sure. Loved facebook frog.

China pulled out of the Paris agreement!
Time for America to roll some coal!
Let's mine 5 billion tons a year and outcompete the Chinese with our cheapest, most abundant source of energy!

>>55792554
Polaris was a massive operation that I believe ran for around 20+ years, it was developed over a long period as well though. It was high grade silver lead zinc with some copper, right on tide water. I am not sure but there's a book out there on Polaris that I ll go look for and link in a bit, the story on that mine is nuts. They shipped concentrates in the summer months by bulk carrier. It was going to become a Canadian prison camp at one point too in the 1980s but those plans were scrapped.

Inflation data tomorrow, anyone think it might end the DCL?

>>55794008
You aren't that old. You were still learning to wipe your ass the right direction

>>55795865
kikes age quickly

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>>55792905
I'm done with the markets and im sitting in what I have and developing my property and starting my mushroom farm and going to school for ny finance degree. I'm looking for an entry into oil but that's it because I'm completely disillusioned and demoralized with these faggot markets. They can go fuck themselves. I have good positions and I will sit on them and wait.

>>55793677
It's probably going to go up big this year.

Are there any other commodities like silver that cost more to mine than to buy on the market?

Shorted oil just now, wish me luck

>>55796913
This one is lost

>>55797555
Show me a primary silver producing company that mines silver for less than $20 per ounce

fake CPI data out,

CPI 0.2% MoM, Exp. 0.2%
CPI 3.2% YoY, Exp. 3.3%
CPI Core 0.2% MoM, Exp. 0.2%
CPI Core 4.7% YoY, Exp. 4.7%

cooked to perfection, once again .1% below. Bidenomics is working!!

>gArY sAyS iT's AlL gOiNg DoWn!

>>55798401
It's like when Bart changed his grade from a C to an A. People won't believe it, you gotta make it a B-.

>>55797923
Have you heard of Bayhorse?

>>55797188
good luck.
bought gas, thinking it would go 3.2$ and lost quite some money now when it went -5%

>>55799509
But they refuse to sell to the comex

I think Gary needs to start taking some responsibility. Two horrendous calls so close to each other. First to go leverage right when the price reverses, then to sell the bottom before it moves up.

news must be close

>>55798616
>>55799983
That'll be $75 + tip

I put my money in FVL.TO. Is it over for me?

>>55800207

News are coming next week at the latest, it's a bit late to play the game of penny flipping with this, because the upcoming stuff can easily do anything to the price.
Also the wording on Compass site has a vague implication they might be looking into getting this property.

https://www.compassminerals.com/info/news/compass-minerals-adds-jonathan-rose-to-senior-management-team/

>lead efforts to continue charting a long-term strategic roadmap for the company through the optimization of its core Salt and Plant Nutrition businesses

It'll be difficult to compete long term against such a low cost producer, especially if energy prices start crawling up. They need to acquire it to stay relevant.
This is going to be an interesting ride, might not play out all that quickly though because there are many factors that can drag it on a bit.
Mainly the damn TPR question, because you can't even start making offers about a company when there's a potential extra billion of MC in the air.

>>55760382
Fuck off back to plebbit.

Any good commonidty etfs or groups I can buy into that are NOT part of esg bullshit?
I saw one called COM by direxion. Company seems a like sketchy though.

>>55797188
Good call I figure. Sell at 10-15%

>>55801339
I dont think oil is going to drop that much with this much momentum

>>55801448
Looks poised for a drop to me. Also going into winter where seasonality usually has it priced lower than summer. But that's my logical take on it and we know how clown markets respond to logic

>>55801506

>>55801339
was a perfect call but I didn't make much because I'm a pussy

https://www.mining.com/decade-resources-stock-soars-following-copper-discovery-financing/

Here comes the pump for Decade Resources after their major find near Terrace BC.

I guess the move isn't today afterall. Still hurt to sell into the low and not the bounce.

>>55801919
Hey panman,
if Blue Lagoon were to get their last permit in December how long would it take for them start mining?
The area is covered in snow until spring, as you've said before.
Does the weather greatly impact mining operations?

it hasn't even begun...

>>55802135
that depends on if they go with a mining contractor (like Procon or CMAC for example) or if they do the mining themselves. Contractors are busy at the moment, and finding good underground staff could be challenging as everyone is already working. Finding gear to operate wont be difficult, they already have a tamrock jumbo, haul trucks and scoop tram on site, and much of the needed development work has already been completed in the past from the previous owners. They may need to find more bits and pieces of different gear to actually begin mining though.

Best guess 2-4 months to actually get going, depending on if they are doing further development work underground or actually drawing from stopes. At least operating at Dome shouldnt be to difficult, the ground is pretty solid, easy to bolt and secure without costly shotcrete or cable bolting.

>>55802294
Thanks for your answer.
So could they also start in the middle of winter when snow is chest high?

>>55802135
and the only thing that weather effects out there could be hauling on Old Babine Lake Rd, it can get really sketchy in late winter, basically a winding skating rink. It doesnt get to -40 up there much either anymore so cold shouldnt be an issue. Heavy snowfall just means you need to plow and move more snow.

>>55802312
yep thats totally doable, it just means you need to put more rip rap down by the portal to give your vehicles more traction. Spring would suck to do start up on out there for example, all the FSRs become boggy, loads of water to deal with too causes headaches.

>>55802314
>>55802330
interesting
let's hope for the best

>>55799983
I'm pissed as well. The cartel isn't the one whipsawing. He is. But good luck calling him out. You'll probably get banned. And then he's missed basically the entire oil move.

>>55800975
Gunr

SALT bros Japanese countryside is soon

>>55802578
I just know the second I fomo into oil it corrects. It should be oversold soon, right?

Fresh bake
>>55803142

Fresh bake
>>55803142