/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55732002

fuck all sexual degenerates
fuck all crypto nerds
stack gold and silver

First for "stacking is for everyone"!

I was just listening to a song from probably the 1920's or something. It was hard to make out the lyrics, but I think they were saying something like "Ballston on the river and they sue it" and there was a little xylophone playing in the background...

Does anybody know the song name?

>Image credit goes to an artist on >>>/r9k/

crypto nerds will seethe

>>55732002
having a 2023 gold maple would be nice

I used to disagree with all of you and was 100% into stocks and crypto and now I am 100% into silver, gold and platinum. Why is this a thing?

>>55732591
The 2023 Canadian coins have Liz with her reigning years on it, I've seen some people not like the dates added.

>>55732591
with the king on the back? no thanks
stickin to muh krugs

>>55732002
>>55732591
I was the one posting the pic and buying one in the last thread.
I just bought a Britannia 1oz gold with Charles on the back. They will be the first ones with Charles, which may or may not give them additional value.
But i doubt it.
Anyway, i'm going for them for the security features.

Not sure what to get next, i don't like the Krugerrand because it's not 999.9 gold.
I don't like the Kangaroo because it has no security features.

>>55732706
those features actually made me like the idea a face on the back more since it "feels more like history"

>>55732904
now that you mention it, it is only a matter of time before that starts happening
you make it sound as though those already exist so I'll go looking for pictures

>>55733026
Brits are real nice with all those details
The feeling of "royal" would only get better if the flag was on the back or just the general symbol on the flag
I know it's on the front but it's not the same in that state

>>55733078
I've already rejected many 2023 coins because he was on the back. it's here, my friend

i don't mind though; it's keeping me from buying high premium shit. gonna just stick with krugs/phils/maybe ASEs if the premium keeps collapsing

Can someone explain how the US being deemed less trustworthy makes the US dollar go up and gold inversely go down? Just explain it, please.

>>55733464
Honk honk

>>55733464
the market is doing a meta where big fish swallow up the little fish who were making the "correct" bet based on the information available

>>55733464
Because the market is manipulated by agencies who profit from the existence of the USD. We've been over this a thousand times already that they use tricks like derivatives, market insider trading and the good old fashioned publish the news just before the markets close for the weekend. The most consistent manipulation is the steady drop in price a few days before the Fed or the BoE reveal their current inflation results. If you ever want to know when is the best time to buy metals, it's just before the disclosure.

the gilded otoyas are back from getting worked on, they are finishing up the edging and then they should be on the way to us.

>>55733026
>I just bought a Britannia 1oz gold with Charles on the back. They will be the first ones with Charles, which may or may not give them additional value.
It won't. Britannias are standard bullion coins. What you want to get are coins in a set like the Queen's Beasts series. The completer for example goes for way more than a Britannia of the same year. Same goes for the dragon and griffin. The Sovereigns that have just been released with the crown on Charles' head will go for a lot more money than standard sovereigns because it will most likely be the only mintage with him wearing the crown on his head.

>>55733637
Holy shit an update finally

Is $25 a decent price for common date Morgan dollars? I found a source that has quite a few at that price

>>55733722
we have been in threads every once in a while, mostly thought twitter is the best place to get updates because they dont go away after two days.

we dont have an exact ETA right now but as usual we will keep everyone posted.

>>55733728
That's very good, slurp them up

>>55733637

>>55733740
Quick question since you're here, would you guys show up as bfallc on a statement? I never got any confirmation email or anything so I was wondering if that was your charge.

>>55733850
it should, ill have to double check. but if you want to shoot us an email i can get a copy of your order number to you

>>55732002
Is still true that if you try to redeem a gold certificate the FBI will torture you?

>>55732051
I think that someone wants us to give gold and silver stacking the Bud Light treatment by attempting to associate it with all this tranny horseshit.

>>55734118
Yep ,ever notice how these threads only gain traction when iqdelet and the tranny stacker show up,at this point these threads are dead because the jannies banned alot of anons at random,I was banned two times already for mentioning jews ,this place is shit now

>>55734228
so i guess we will just have to keep posting until they're unbanned. leaving and letting them have the threads seems stupid.

>>55734118
Cope and seethe, chud.

>>55734238
does sunshine mint really do the helena coins? weird.

>>55732002
>Maple Leaf Edition

>>55734236
Oh believe me I considerd leaving this jew board for /k/ but still i like /pmg/,imma help others with making good choices,even though they call me a silver fud and glowie I can't be mad and seethe at em cause I was like that as well, I'm sure someone took my advice and bought gold for better inflation hedge .

>>55734521
FUDing silver in /pmg/ is for faggots

would you choose the fat guy with a sword or the oak tree coin?

>>55734592
he really isn't even that fat

>>55734560
I don't fud silver anon,gold just ..has a better appeal to me now than silver does ,by all means get those low premiums ase at 28 ,but for me pre 33 gold is where's its at now,saint gaudens ,20 dollar liberty heads ,1908 100 korona,they're just nicer to look at ,

>>55734601
the fat guy is pretty neat

>>55734228
>iqdelet and the tranny stacker
Probably the same person (agency). IQ's strategy of over-the-top FUD didn't work, so he's trying a different tack.
I don't give a fuck. I'll keep stacking.

>>55734979
Mabye,you can always tell it's the same tranny just by their spacing and reply to multiple comments, but I think iq is a bot

>>55735164
Good timing to sell your silver and buy yourself some cheap ChainLink, we are primed for another moonshot soon.

>>55733637
Are you going to mint a furry coin

>>55735262
maybe for a billion jillion dollars or if the design was cool enough and not overtly furry.

>>55735285
Is this cool enough

>>55734979
>>55735164
>trannies trannies trannies TRANNIES
Obsession.

>>55735262
>>55735285
Wasn't your first coin a furry coin? Isn't your trip based off a furry character?

>>55735309
Cute!

>>55735363
holo has never been considered furry by even furries, that style of character has its own thing. but yeah holo a cute
>>55735309
arts actually fine, probably not something we would make and you would need a bit more to work with for a coin

>>55735383
Hmmm, I'm no furry myself, so I can't speak for them, but I always viewed Holo as a furry character, what with the ears and the tail. For me, a character can have one of those and not be furry, like Goku with a tail or picrel, but once they have both, they cross the Rubicon into the realm of furry. Maybe mgSp+mZt can weigh in with their expertise.

>>55735363
Kemonomimi is at most furry-curious but that's a whole different can of worms for a different general. As a furry I would count it as like 40% furry, max.
>>55735383
Obviously I'd go digital if a die was to be designed, but oh well it was worth asking about. There's only about 3 or 4 "furry" rounds in existence, coomerbro has them. And they look absolutely horrible, I'm talking the kind of stuff Google image results would give for "deviantart cringe". Oh well, had to ask.

>>55735190
Fuck off faggot no one here wants to pump your digital bags ,your kind aren't welcome here

>>55735383
holo is proto-furry
the stage before the full disease takes over
i dunno guys, im starting to think the trannies and furries won. pmg just ain't the same. remember when it was so chill

>>55735383
any idea if you and mint go through the same process for the dies? are there "tiers" for dies where they can get more detailed for more money? are they outrageously expensive to get made?

>>55734636
that's the one i'm leaning towards. if the coin coming from that buyer turns out to be as nice as it looks i'll probably get it

>>55735451
>>55735469
The experts have weighed in!

>>55735476
they have different tiers and we usually spring for as much detail as we can on the dies.

>>55735717
Beautiful stack. My own looks a little small in comparison.

>>55735717
Im trying to google your box model but I only find the big cube safes. Do you have a model number? Is that box rated for fire resistance and water?

>>55735781
Thank you. Took me a few years, you'll get there fren, I believe in you.
>>55735818
The middle one I don't know the model but it's 'First Alert' brand. The one on the left it Sentry Safe "medium chest". I don't have a model number for either. Fire resistant and allegedly water resistant.

What mix for you guys have for gold/silver in your investment portfolio? I've been thinking of going 20% gold, 20% silver and 60% stocks.

>>55735516
Kinda looks like Paul Reubens.

>>55735975
Pic related.
>>55735979
RIP Pee Wee Herman.

>>55733650
>It will be the only mintage with him wearing a crown
Why do you think? Elizabeth was wearing the crown on most of her mintage years

>>55735979
it does. this part of the show used to make me sad when i was little.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnzL5-X4QyU

>>55735975
My portfolio is gold.... and silver. Why? Because fiat is dogshit and the stock market is going to crash. The only reason it keeps going is because the oligarchs want to attract as many suckers into the system so they can leave them the bag.

>>55735995
>Pic related.
Nice. Also imagine building a throne out of silver bars.

>>55735975
now is the time to rotate out of stocks

>>55735975
I'm not that heavy into PMs, since I'm young enough that I want to grow my wealth more so than preserve what I've made so far. I'm like 20% allocated towards PMs, but even that's more than I probably should. A lot of my stacking tendencies are autism admittedly. Shiny thing good!

>>55736004
It hasn't been a thing for kings here, unless they've been minted outside of the British Isles.

>>55736015
And where is it they plan to going when they crash the global economy (with no survivors)? Mars? kek

>>55736026
Silver is down today more than the stock indices

>>55736044
It's all about recouping as much wealth back out of the system while they still can. Pyramid scheme gonna pyramid.

>>55735975
Most of what we have is in IRAs and the house.
PMs are a few percent, mixed about 40/50 Ag/Au.

>>55736012
Closings for shows we like are always sad.
May Pee Wee have better and more loyal fans where he's going.

Will Gold/silver go up due to BRICS nations gold back currency launching this month?
Debating on buying another ounce of gold before the meeting.

>>55736044
They won't go anywhere, they won't need to. They are well on thier way to owning everything. Homes, farms, water, energy, guns, etc. They are outlawing guns worldwide slowly but surely. I've seen more and more articles about it being made illegal to raise your own animals and crops. You can't collect your own water. You can only have solar or wind power if it's attached to the grid and with permission. The bag is fiat, and it's what your everyday citizen will be left holding while the elite own every real material item you need to survive because we as people are trading it all to them for dirty old strips of cloth and plastic. We are modern day slaves and the chains are the court of public opinion. If you don't share a two bedroom home with 12 immigrants you are evil. If you don't eat the veggie burger made of 96 ingredient sludge you are evil. If you own a gun to protect you and your family you are evil. If you put your faith in your God and not your government you are evil. If you don't date trannies or gays you are evil. If you dont take your child to get mutilated by some doctor you are evil. But as long as you do as they say and think what they tell you to think to keep earning those strips of cloth and plastic they will allow you access to a home, food, water, and medicine.

>>55735979
Him dying fucked me up. I loved Pee Wee as a lad.

>>55736130
>Will Gold/silver go up due to BRICS nations gold back currency launching this month?
probably not, they'd have done all the buying necessary before now; any pump will just be countered by exit liquidity

anyways any "X-backed Y" is fucking useless kike IOU bullshit; if it can't be physically held or verified on a public ledger like BTC, it's just as useless as a USD

We need a furry tier meme.

>>55736130
What I don't get is if BRICS thinks a gold backed money standard is the best route to go, wouldn't they keep it a secret of their intentions for a few years and stockpile more gold at less cost instead of potentially causing the price to rise and thus be able to accumulate less over time?

>>55736254
no, if anything ~happens~ furries and trannies will either go into hiding or get a bullet for being degenerates, stack size will be irrelevant

>>55736255
what do you think the price action of the last 10 years have been

>>55736255
Because they're not ready, dummy. Gold on its own doesn't mean shit until you get the systems set up and running correctly. Change is coming, but like any big ship it takes time to change direction.

>>55736274
i wish they'd stop pushing. or at least have the manners to stop doing it so close.

>>55735717
I feel so inadequate

>>55736208
Wow, existing must be really scary for you, anon. How do you handle the stress of it all?

>>55736274
You will never do anything but talk shit on 4channel. You'd probably cry if your family and coworkers read your anonymous posts.

>>55736482
doubt it but i bet the niggers never go further than the areas they're given police protection. and we were shooting at you faggots on the first night. we didn't manage to kill any of you until night number 2. i hope it gets more exciting.

>>55736482
You got an argument about any of the points I made or just more sarcasm to deflect?

>>55736029
>muh grow my wealth more
what you meant to say was: buy the top of the stock market

>>55736208
Ah yes, the all powerful elite that control everything from their secret lair.

Lighten up a little bit amigo. Bankers are only human. Have some guns and ammo, some metals, some food, first aid equipment. Then relax and enjoy life. The world isn't ending. We aren't going to become a slave planet. Yes, hard economic times are coming. That can be the adventure of your life. We all die no matter what. Dying in a fight with evil beats dying in a nursing home. Make yourself the best you can be. Prepare reasonably. Be happy! That is the most revolutionary, disobedient thing you can do.

>>55736255
When do you think they started preparing for a gold backed currency? Two weeks ago? Anon they've been working at this for more than a decade.

>>55736482
>You will never do anything but talk shit on 4channel
that's all any movement does, until it doesn't

decades of talking shit followed by a few years of extreme violence is as old as history

>>55736564
>muh don't invest cause it's the end of the world
Enjoy being poor and increasingly embarrassed over your stupidity.

>>55736838
You don't understand, anon. It's kaliyuga and the book of Revelations is upon us. The prophecies are being fulfilled before our very eyes. Only silver sis-I mean silver stackers will survive these dark times (created by weak men). The writing is on the wall (which are closing in around the banking elite or the poor goyim idk). If you're a based White Christian cisgendered heterosexual male then you've already pledged your allegiance to the BRICS and their gold backed currency so you can WAGMI with them.

>>55736887
pic rel

>>55736838
>Ah yes, the all powerful elite that control everything from their secret lair.
uh... yes? Open some genealogy books about said bankers, and you will find out it's the same intermarrying (((dynasties))) ruling over us from the shadows for the past 2 thousand years.

Chinese scientists are theorising LK-99 would be improved by using lead-gold and instead of lead and copper. Is that why the aliens genetically engineered humans to mine gold for them? So they could make enough superconductors for their Dyson spheres?

>>55736208
I think you care too much about an imaginary public opinion about yourself bro.

>>55736886
>some incels wasting their lives seething on /pol/ is a movement
Holy shit bruh, you've really been huffing your own farts, haven't you? I am legit laffin hard rn, kek. You're not only coward, but your also a retard. Pottery.

>>55736859
This. China has been stressing at least 1000 tons of gold a year since 2010 and reporting only a tiny fraction of their holdings to keep the price low. Meanwhile western countries have been selling their gold and announcing it before they do it to ensure they get the absolute worst price for it.

>>55736982
god damn the west is so fucking pathetic

Make one post about the elite buying up and controlling all the hard assets you need to survive, outlawing any they can't, while condemning anyone that goes against their agenda, and everybody losses their minds.

>>55737143
Crazy, personally i wholeheartedly agreed with your post fren, i don't understand the seething it induced.

>>55737143
they just wish they had small luthers

>>55737175
Guess I must have gone off script and struck a nerve.

>>55737224
To add some water to your mill, two years ago my (((government))) paid for a software able to detect pools in private gardens from surveillance sattelites.
It was designed for 2 purposes : find out ppl who built a concrete swimming pool without authorizations and tax the living shit out of them for illegal construction, and fine ppl using inflatable kiddy pools during heat waves in summer when there are restrictions on water consumption.
This is the world we live in.

Then last year, the british gubment bought the software from us, and adapted it this time not to detect swimming pools, but hen houses in private gardens. To have the ability to go after anybody trying to produce their own eggs/chicken at home. And lo and behold, what happened the same year in bongistan? An avian flu of course! So the government forced private hen house owners to kill their chickens or face absurdly high fines.

>>55736923
I think you should close those books. They are bad for your mental health.

So yeah, when ultra-advanced cameras spy on you from space to see if you have the AUDACITY of refreshing yourself in your 1m2 plastic pool in the middle of summer then automatically send the cops to you, we live in a complete nightmare society.

>>55737276
You right, i should shut down my brain and go watch a globohomo-approved movie at the closest theater.
What about Oppenheimer? i've only seen good (((critics))) about it this week!

>>55737298
barbenheimer is the event of the summer!

>>55737238
That doesn't suprise me. It gets worse every year. It's world wide and it's slowly but surely spreading. Every year you are "allowed" to own less with the option to rent or buyback what they took from you the previous year.

>>55737175
I like to offer an alternative to the "resistance is futile against the all powerful, unstoppable, ancient elite" rant. It is a species of demoralization fud. And, honestly, a little wacky.

>>55737298
False dichotomy. You can reject popular culture and train you mind and body, and prepare your tools and resources, without buying into paranoia.

>>55737335
Resistance isn't futile or else we wouldn't all be here talking about owning precious metals. Pretending it's some wacky conspiracy and not having a healthy amount of paranoia is naive. You should take everything the government or elite does or suggest you do with a healthy dose of suspicion, they both have a long history of fucking the average man into the dirt without lube.

>>55737355
>without buying into paranoia.
Enouncing facts is considered paranoia now?
It's paranoia if i list you all the companies, patents, bonds and lands owned by the Schiff, Morgan, Loeb, Warburg, Lehman and Rothschild families for example?
You drank too much of the CIA koolaid my fren.

does anyone wanna buy my silver, i need some cash to get a new gun
i may or may not have rubbed my cock and balls on every piece of silver i own

anyone else backing up pii data for most of the country?

>>55737398
Yes, I think believing in a 2000 year old conspiracy and ancient prophecy is a bit paranoid and NOT factual. But if it makes you happy, go for it. If it does not make you happy, you might take a different path.

So what's the /pmg/ consensus on the US debt downgrade?

>>55737387
You can be very skeptical of government, bankers, and lots of other people without believing in fairy tales.

>>55737452
>believing in fairy tales
i'm sure there are several in here that can tell tall tales anon

>>55737452
I didn't mention any fairy tales, I mentioned the elite and governments goal to own everything and outlawing what they can't own. Then renting it back to us as long as we are "good" citizens.

>>55737464
if you're authentic, you're being given another softball insult to toss back with the fairy tale bit

>>55737439
Don't care about happyness, it's a chimera. What i care about is understanding the world i live in and the forces at play. And for that i must seek truth.
If it leads me to a 2000 yo conspiracy by lizardmen, then i don't fear saying it. Don't care about uneducated opinions of normies saying they gonna judge me for that.

In reality, the main issue concerning your disbelief is 2000 years seems like a vertiginous number to the rootless, unconscious modern serf. You don't even know anything about your great-grampa, so of course it seems impossible to the ambitionless pleb.

But 2000 years is just 60 generations. It's fucking nothing to the ones with a heritage and the means to remember their past. We had ONE family sitting on the throne for a millenia here, and you are telling me a 2000yo conspiracy confine to absurdity?
Wake up my dude.

>>55737444
We're finished, tripsanon

>>55737471
Yea I figured that's what they were going for. I was reinforcing what I said originally and hoping that would get them to say which part of my posts they consider to be a "fairytale".

>>55732117
Lost to time fren

>>55737565
Apologies. It was the other anon talking about the ancient conspiracies and lizardmen.

You are taking some trends and exaggerating them and trying to tie them into a world conspiracy. I don't think it is as organized as you do. The banking scam is real. But mainly we have a complacent public (although increasingly less so) and opportunistic politicians and crony capitalists. No global cabal working in concert for world domination.

My evidence to the contrary? I own a home in fee simple. I own two nice vehicles with pink slips. I have a rainwater harvesting system and a 2kwatt solar panel system with off-grid battery backup. I own guns, ammo, metals, etc. etc. Nobody is hunting me down and taking my shit. You can say "not yet" but there are actually signs of the pendulum swinging the other direction. I think there will need to be an economic collapse and national divorce in America before the smoke clears. But so what? That isn't the end of the world. It is the start of a new one.

But truthfully, you and I are probably not in much disagreement. Maybe just in degree.

>>55737335
based rolling block chud

>>55737732
>Nobody is taking my shit.
is this chuddy-boi serious?
They take your shit so fast you don't even have time to nootice.

>>55737684

Darn...

Hey /pmg/, I'm buying a house and I need to liquidate some of my stack to cover closing costs.
I've never sold metal before, is it better to sell in person, or online?
Do most places just pay spot price?
I'm not sure what to expect.

>>55737967
>I'm buying a house
During the little time window of peak RE bubble merged with peak interest rates?

>>55737931
The others are understandable to an extent but inheritance tax is beyond evil and any defenders of it should have a knife shoved through the bottom of their jaw into their mouth so they gag on a knife
>hey uhh, sorry your dad died and worked his entire life to pass on his prosperity to you, the progeny
>now give us a flat percentage of his stuff promised to you or we'll rape you
No wonder Tax collectors were Jesus' favorite of "evil shithead"

>>55737985
people have been saying that this big bubble is gonna "collapse any day now" for over a year. I need a place to live today. I almost bought in January this year, but held off because "omg it gonna collapse guise!"
I think there are too many people that want homes, and are waiting for a big collapse, for it to actually dip as hard as everyone thinks it will.
I'm tired of living in apartments, dorms, and campers. I just want a place to call home bros...

>>55737967
>>55737985
>>55738025
I bought my first house and closed in March at 4.89%. It's not about timing it's just getting a seat. Good for you Anon it's a big step but once you're on then you can keep moving forward. I'd ideally prefer not to do it in a way that sells metals though. If you were in BC I'd offer to buy some off you.

>>55737732
Does it matter if it's a global concerted effort or not if the result is the same in the end? Us a few years down the line or in our kids lifetimes unable to by a home, own guns, etc. Our or their lives dictated by a social credit score. You have those things now but every day access to those things is more and more restricted. Something needs to change.
>>55738025
The bubble won't collapse and houses won't be affordable as long as the million and billion dollar companies keeping buying up homes offering 50-100k over asking price. They can afford those prices because they rent them out as is or knock them down and build apartments/tiny homes. They see them as long term investments they will get a return on down the line and once they own enough in an area they can jack up the rent to speed up their return since your only option is rent from them or move out of the area.

>>55738070
Thanks, Anon. It's got me feeling jittery for sure, I've been dreaming of a place to set up a little work shop for years. At least I wont be pissing away money into rent and worrying about security deposits when I go to hang a picture on the wall.
That's alot better of a rate than i'm looking at. I figure that I can refinance in a few years if the rates come down.
I don't really want to sell any of my metals, but I've always looked at stacking as a sort of fall-back physical savings account. I don't need to sell much, just enough to help cover the closing costs. I'm not sure where else I could get the money from, I don't want to pay less than 20% down payment, and I don't want to sell any of my guns. That pretty much leaves metals as my only option.

>>55738025
A year is a very short amount of time to wait for an impending economic event. The fact that you also need to sell some of your stack to cover the down payment makes me think you're going to end up losing that house in a few years.

>>55738126
Yeah they had me put down 35% to not have to buy mortgage insurance. The way I saw it was that if rates go up then rent goes up and you'll always be working to make someone else's ends meet because they aren't gonna shelter you at a loss. The push for me was when my landlord wanted to increase my rent from $650 flat to $1500 + utilities since he moved out from the ground floor to another city for a job and he realized he didn't like the job and he was still locked into this mortgage and TV contracts. I talked to the bank and my realtor and got a $1,600/mo mortgage at a house three blocks over. Came with a detached guest house suite that I rent out for a below market price of $700/mo to cover maintenance and groceries because as long as I only use it for those things it's tax free and doesn't need to be declared under cost sharing arrangements.

Long story short is that once you have property you'll be locked in but you also have that asset. Things are only going to get more expensive, the banks are always going to get their due, the difference is whether 25% of your monthly payment is going to go to your landlords equity or your own

I bought 100oz of silver in 2017 i think what do

>>55738126
Down payment requirements vary by country and/or lender. When I bought, I had to cough up 20% for the down. Yes, you can refinance. I did mine at exactly the right time and went from 4.5% to 2.5. The rule of thumb to make refinancing costs 'worth it' is two years into making payments and 2% drop in rates. I reckon that counts on the back side, too - if you refinance in just one year but keep the house for another two, that washes.
Unless you're buying in a place destined to become a shit hole (read: Detroit in the early 2000s), real estate is a very forgiving investment.

>>55738211
Literally nothing. Just make sure you have it accounted for and secure.

>>55738206
>if rates go up then rent goes up
I would never get a variable loan rate. Lock it in, or uncertain your future is.

>>55738228
Yeah that too. Don't fucking get variable. And don't fucking listen to the bank when they try to sell you on it either. Always go fixed.

>>55738025
I understand you fren, it's perfectly reasonable on your end to want to secure a home. But i think there is a bit of misunderstanding : a bubble doesn't necessarly imply a collapse. But it remain a bubble nonetheless, or else how can we call it when 90% of a home value derive from zoning laws and building restrictions put in place by boomers who wanted to secure their monopoly over real estate? While the 10% remaining are for the materials needed for the actual house to be built.

What i'm most worried about for you isn't the house being too expensive. It's the loan being too expensive.
Banks are already collapsing under the pressure, the debt is getting downgraded, the government already paid 1.8 trillions in just a year to pay higher interests to bonds bearers. And no later than yesterday, they were announcing a new round of bond sales for $102B. It will soon be a weekly occurence because the deficit spendings are getting so insanely large.

The system as it has been designed the past decade can't survive without cheap money. This is a similar fate all the dying empires shared through history. 5.50% and we already are on the verge of imploding the zombie corpse we call an economy.
All this to tell you it's a matter of MONTHS before they are getting forced by the banks to reverse the steam all azimuts.
We are at the peak of interest rates right now. This will never go to 6%, and we probably wont even stay above 5 until October. That's why they are so desperate to cook the numbers and present us an iddyllic picture.
Are you so desperate to be a mortgage slave you can't wait for another year?

>>55738228
https://macleans.ca/economy/realestateeconomy/my-mortgage-payments-rose-almost-2000-in-a-year/

Lol lmao even

>>55738238
Fixed is the way to go, you don't want to get a 60-90 year mortgage like those Canadians right now.

>>55737967
>>55738025
No, anon. It's the end of the world and your supposed to rent an apartment and spend all your money on silver buffalo rounds. The collapse is here! Wake up!

>>55738266
>And the summer before, Tiff Macklem, the governor of the Bank of Canada, reassured Canadians that interest rates would definitely stay low for a long time to come—it looked like a safe bet. Our realtor and a couple of banks, TD and CIBC, recommended going variable, suggesting it would probably peak at 4 or 4.5 per cent at most.
>The guy took financial advice from the guy running the bank
>$150k household income buying a $800k house too

>>55738262
Article is golden
>“Hard-working, middle-class people should be able to buy homes in their own country without cutting back their lifestyles to the bone,” says Ontario homeowner Mezba Mahtab
Sure sound very canadian of him
>We feel like we’ve done nothing wrong, having relied on the advice of the government and financial institutions
>"why are we getting raped to death? We are good goyim!"
kekekek

>>55738273
Alot of them are screwed because they listened to the advice of the people selling them the loans, variable rate with massive payments or fixed monthly payments with variable rate adding years to your mortgage.
https://www.newsweek.com/homeowners-90-year-mortgage-interest-rates-surge-1812868

>>55738305
It's almost comical how retarded the cattle are. I majored in finance and picked up within the first 2 years of taking classes that it was evil... I also fucked myself by donating to Ron Paul and basically never being able to get a job in the banking industry. Ever.

>>55738314
Funny how public education (note : not "instruction", as it used to) will reserve approx 800 hours to teach kids about the shoah mythos, but not a single hour through their entire scholarship about how to deal with money.

One of those things will never have a practical use, while they will spend their entire lives trying to earn the other, which will also be the only medium by which they will interact with 90% of the ppl they will meet during their lifetimes.

mhmmm, really make you think... If i were a paranoid schitzo, i'd think it's maybe done on purpose to create money-illiterate monkeys who will be debt-slaves for their entire existence without even having a second thought on how it could have happened to them..
But apparently paranoia = bad, so i wont.

>>55738187
Well, I wouldn't have to sell any metal if I had not taken money from my home budget to buy silver back in March.

>>55738206
I'm at the end of a lease contract right now, and rent is about to go up. Not nearly as much as yours did, but still, I don't want to lock myself into this place for another year when I have the means right now to move out and get my own asset.

>>55738217
The minimum for me is 20% down, or else I have to pay the mortgage insurance.

>>55738252
The cost of living for the part of the USA I am in is pretty low. The home I am looking to buy is $200K, so the interest amount I am paying will not fluctuate as wildly with the percentage rates. I am looking at around $14.5K in interest at the current rates. even if it drops down several percentage points, I would only be paying about $4-5K less on the overall price. I do think that it is worth the $4K, because I would sped that in 4 months renting where I'm currently at.

I really appreciate all the responses, it's nice to hear some different perspectives.

>>55738352
One of my closest friend experienced the same journey. Noped the fuck out in 4th year, after 10 months in his bankster apprenticeship in a large institution i wont name. He legit aged 5 years in one.

Every time we discuss about it, he tells me it was the best decision he ever made in his life. No matter the loss of cash, the disappointed mom, and the gone gold digging gf.
Better be a poorfag than sell your soul to Satan and be the cog of a demonic machinery.

Our dignity is the last thing we have left, so you better hold dear onto it. No amount of cash can justify losing your soul if you want to be able to look at yourself in the mirror and call what you see a Man.

>>55738364
It can be painful to watch how badly people mismanage their finances. I learned early because I grew up poor watching my parents terribly handle their finances. They both worked hard and they aren't dumb people, they just didn't understand money, hell they still dont.

>>55738206
>The way I saw it was that if rates go up then rent goes up and you'll always be working to make someone else's ends meet because they aren't gonna shelter you at a loss.
plenty of landlords have cash negative properties

>>55735717
my pp feel small

>>55738457
You know the saying fren
>better a small pp than no pp at all

Also, i hope i'm not the only one who noticed a pattern
>PMs go down = /pmg/ is comfy again
>PMs go up = discord trannies and fudders out in full force

>>55738488
Checked and checks out.

>>55738488
IQDELET shows up when there's a dip but gets btfo by all the excitement and anons showing their purchases. Whether it goes up or down it's always cause for a celebration.

>>55737452
It's easier to delete these "people" if you don't see them as people. So you Psyop normies to see them as Vampires, Lizardmen, Demons, whatever. But they defo not human.

>>55738369
Oh man, im a dummy, I figured that interest wrong. The actual loan would be $160K, so I would be paying around $11K interest.

Anyways, back to the original question, is it better to sell online, or in person? Has anyone here ever sold?

>>55738548
I bought mercury dimes off a guy on here who needed to sell to pay rent. It's just about making sure you get an honorable fren who won't scam

>>55738559
How can you scam when everyone knows spot price? If I sell generic rounds, is it typical to get over spot for them?

>>55738548
If you're really buying a house for under $300k right now then I take back what I said. You should be able to pay it off in 10 years or sooner if you're not retarded. Anyway, try selling individual or like lots of 3 coins on eBay and charge for shipping. I've been noticing a lot of sellers there selling 50+ lots of 3 Asahi rounds for $125 each.

>>55738262
Yup...
>Variable looked like the way to go, with banks offering rates around 2.5 per cent.

>>55738548
>The actual loan would be $160K,
It gets worse.
Then you'll probably be paying into escrow for insurance and taxes. I pay $12k/yr into that for my house - that's an additional $10k/mo to go with the principal+interest. Watch out for that.

>>55738581
>is it typical to get over spot for them?
Dunno - never sold anything. But I've seen the rates my LCS offers - spot minus $1.85 per ozt for small bars, minus a bit less (85 cents?) for the 10ozt bars. It was a sliding scale. don't remember the details. And they sold for that much over spot. At least is twas predictable and consistent. I could plan.
Then they closed the branch near me. D'oh! But still not selling, so okay.

>>55738581
Also everyone does not know spot price. Someone could see an article saying to buy silver and rush to JM or eBay and spend $350 on a lot of 10 ASE's not knowing how much money they just tossed in the trash. Taking advantage of trends and ignorant people is how pretty much any market works.

>>55738648
>additional $10k/mo
* $1k/mo
Oops, duh.

R8 penmanship

>>55738763
Stack 10/10
Penmanship 7/10

Any good websites for coin collecting? Specifically older/ancient coins, and coins from outside of Europe.

So what's the reason for the historicallly low silver:gold ratio?

>>55738999
What's the reason why people hold digital silver at like a 37:1 to physical ratio is a better question

>>55732051
>fuck all sexual degenerates
yeah

Interesting read on the inflation of the roman monetary system during the crisis of the third century. It serves as an excellent example of the trust that fiat can hold within the market, as well as the destructive power that's baked into it when market participants shift their level of trust in monetary authorities.

>https://notesonliberty.com/2019/09/16/hyperinflation-and-trust-in-ancient-rome/

Particularly

>This paradoxical collapse is because Aurelian’s reform was a blaring signal from the emperor that he did not trust the fiat value of his own currency. Though he was promising to increase the commodity value of coins, he was also implicitly stating (and explicitly stating by not accepting taxes in coin) that the fiat value that had been maintained throughout the 3rd Century by his predecessors would not be recognized going forward by the imperial bureaucracy in its transactions, thus signalling that for all army payment and other transactions, the social trust in the emperor and in other market members that had undergirded the value of money would now be ignored by the issuing body itself. Once the issuer (and a major market actor) abandoned fiat currency and stated that newly minted coins would have better commodity value than previous coins, the market–rationally–answered by moving quickly toward commodity value of the coins and abandoned the idea of fiat.

>be alternative/hedge against US and inflation
>inflation at 40 year highs
>gold crabs sideways for 3 years
>us gets credit downgrade
>gold shits itself
Explain to me how gold a meme asset or an absolute joke.

>>55738025
>people have been saying that this big bubble is gonna "collapse any day now" for over a year.
Yes anon, they have. Do you also remember what else they said? They said that the bank run would have happened in its entirety if it wasn't for the central banks bailing out the failed banks and that nothing major isn't going to happen until BRICS is up and running, which could be up and running in the next ten years.

So next you come out with a comment like this, just remember the repeat these details just so we all know you're talking in good faith.

>>55738999
gold is an actual noble metal with a unique color and resistant to corrosion.
Silver is a 6% better copper

>>55739328
US credit downgrade is a nothing burger, and is very bullish for the markets. Most investors are therefore fleeing to the safety of US treasuries.

So in other words once I pay the alloy tax I might as well get the cheap 625 silver because even 925 isn't worth much more in terms of the pure silver content.

>>55739551
>nothing major isn't going to happen until BRICS is up and running

>>55740410
Yes, nothing because it's that flood of USD coming back that will hyper inflate the currency. The only reason it isn't right now is because the USD still is king when it comes to international trade of oil, the lifeblood of nations.

>>55733650
dumbass lol he couldn't be wearing the crown before the coronation he will wear the crown for all coins from now on

>>55740740
>dumbass lol he couldn't be wearing the crown before the coronation he will wear the crown for all coins from now on
You're going to eat those words next year.

>>55740210
yeah yeah everything is a nothing burger

>>55740865
What the fuck are you talking about? When you say someone is going to “eat their words” they are usually making some bold cocksure statement. That’s not the case here unless there

>>55740923
he thinks whether the faggot king wears a crown or not is a huge deal i guess

>>55740923
>What the fuck are you talking about?
I'm talking about when the 2024 coins get minted. I can't believe I had to explain it.

>>55740910
Regarding the current situation, it's essential to consider that the algorithms are driving the sale of precious metals due to higher real rates news. However, the smart money understand that this particular scenario could lead to a significant surge in precious metals prices, as a result, they are discreetly selling their holdings to less informed investors, fuelling a deceptive rally by gaslighting any news about a potential recession. The yield curve, a highly dependable indicator that has accurately forecasted previous market downturns, supports this perspective. What is really worrying right now is that we didn't have a serious recession so far. Also I can't believe I have to explain such basic things, kek.

>>55741012
you're not makin any sense m8. slow down

>>55738763
you need a few morgans in there anon.
Morgans are literally the nicest goddamn silver coin of the 19th century.

>>55740425
Nobody in this thread grasps that this is what sets the US apart from everybody else... those dollars will come home. They already are lmfao for those that don't know the millions of immigrants that are coming to the USA/Canada from India and China and elsewhere are buying property and inflating housing prices here already.

>>55741258
I'm on about all the USD nations around the world hold because the USD is currently the world reserve currency.

Silverbros, I know why we're crashing.
It's unironically the superconductor papers. It renders the industrial application of silver in the near future null. Whales took note and backed out. This will only get worse from here on out.

>>55741296
ray dalio is a faggot, china isn't going to replace the US they're facing down a bigger demographic crisis than we are and their GDP numbers are literally lies

not sure who will replace the US yet, i think something needs to break and be reborn somewhere, but it sure isn't China as they currently exist

>>55741317
silver was never used as a superconductor
so... your FUD is retarded. back to the drawing board

>>55741317
nah

>>55741382
>ray dalio is a faggot
Who?

>china isn't going to replace the US
Never said they were. What I'm saying is that a large portion of the world wants to settle international trade outside of the USD with BRICS being the contender.

For every real physical ounce of silver, there exists ~500 fake ounces only on paper - to be traded back & forth to keep the percieved value of silver down.
We need to destroy the silver market manipulation with paper silver in the West.
simple as
contact your politician(s) of choice today.

>>55741382
>they're facing down a bigger demographic crisis than we are
no they aren't
US demographics are absolute shit
a multi-racial mess
han chinese make up 92% of china

>their GDP numbers are literally lies
wow the US never does that!

>not sure who will replace the US yet, i think something needs to break and be reborn somewhere, but it sure isn't China as they currently exist
strawman

>>55736923
Get outta here polcuck

>>55741382
Love me some Scottsdale Reserve rounds

>>55741420
>Who?
the guy who made the pic you posted, he made a whole video about how China is the next rising power

>>55741454
>han chinese make up 92% of china
first off, that doesn't mean shit because "han chinese" itself is a completely rape-babied term, they are mutts themselves

>US demographics are absolute shit
>a multi-racial mess
sure but chinese are still inferior, they are literally bug tier and useless automatons

>wow the US never does that!
about GDP, no, about a lot of other things, yes

>>55741584
scottsdale is great

Guise, a BRICS+QQIA2SP just flew over my stack!

>>55740740
What is it about 4channel that causes people to post with such rudeness on issues they clearly know nothing about? It's one thing to know nothing, but it's another to do so while spewing your retarded and factually wrong takes with such vitriol.

>>55741382
Hi Peter Zeihan.

>>55741867
>sure but chinese are still inferior,
China's demographic problem isn't racial, it's that the one-child program has left them with an inverse pyramid scheme where one child will have to support their parents (and possibly multiple grandparents).

>>55741931
>Peter Zeihan
don't lump me with that kike

It amazes me how much energy is put into dismissing the potential threat BRICS could be to the USD here. Even though many of us have said time and time again that this transition will take years, the same dismissive arguments saying nothing is going to happen keep on popping up every few days or every few weeks. If nothing is going to happen, why put so much of your energy dismissing it.

>>55742010
yeah it's very sus
probably just old as fuck boomers who can't handle that their stupid country is on the decline

>>55742010
>It amazes me how much energy is put into dismissing the potential threat BRICS could be to the USD here
i haven't seen that all, 99% of what i read is BRICS is going to end the US financial system

i don't buy it at all, each of those countries is a total clusterfuck and they mostly hate eachother; you can't build a successful enterprise off that

i think the USD is doomed, but it's not going to be BRICS or some "gold backed" IOU that takes it down

>>55736208
Bro you grossly overestimate the capabilities of these people. They may have a lot of money and have a lot of influence but they are actually quite stupid. Their great reset has failed and will never happen.

>>55742174
BRICS is one of many things that will take the USD down
there's no 1 big thing that's gonna do it
life is not a marvel movie

also you clearly get all your info about the BRICS countries from /pol/ and TV

>>55735818
>>55735872
those box safes are pretty shit against lockpicking. look up the lock picking lawyer on youtube.

>>55742010
>transition will take years
Honestly, it's a lifelong process as you grow, anon. Don't be afraid to be yourself and love yourself. You are worthy of happiness. Just like stacking is a life journey, so is your transition. May your stack grow heavier as you grow more comfortable in your skin. You can do it, anon!

>>55742174
Anon, I hope for your sake you didn't pack a lunch, because the BRICS are going to eat it! Be afraid. Be very afraid. Buy silver coins now or be doooooomed!

>>55737967
why dont you ask the buyer if they will accept some of the payment in pms?

Is it worth buying gold/silver on ebay, or am I just going to get scammed?

>>55742236
>Honestly, it's a lifelong process as you grow, anon. Don't be afraid to be yourself and love yourself. You are worthy of happiness. Just like stacking is a life journey, so is your transition. May your stack grow heavier as you grow more comfortable in your skin. You can do it, anon!

Anon, I love being male. Playing with my peepee and sticking it into veevee is good fun.

>>55742290
I buy more than half my PM's on eBay. I find a lot of good prices. Buffalo Exchange is a store on eBay I buy from probably the most often with no problems. Also bought pic related on eBay shipping from Ukraine and it arrived just fine. Just look for high feedback scores.

>>55742228
>BRICS is one of many things that will take the USD down
>there's no 1 big thing that's gonna do it
>life is not a marvel movie
relax kiddo, not everyone who disagrees with you is a zoomer tranny with a funko pop collection

>also you clearly get all your info about the BRICS countries from /pol/ and TV
lol, okay

>>55732002
What do you anons think about spot price in silver today? Should I buy the dip or wait a little longer. Thoughts and speculations welcome.

>>55742404
If you have a comfy stack I wouldn't really buy right now personally. But if you're still below 100oz it's not the worst day to buy.

>>55741953
yeah that one child policy is one of thee most single retarded policies I think any government has ever enacted ever in history
the consequences of such a retarded policy were obvious to anyone who studied population growth
at least know the world knows to never trust a chinaman with long term thinking or policy making considering how they are now known to be so obviously short sighted

>>55742336
Glad to hear that, anon. Have fun and be safe!

>>55742351
Soviet gold is making its way up my short list. Any tips about getting into soviet coinage?

>>55742481
35oz silver. Was also considering saving up for my first 1oz gold coin.... Decisions decisions

>>55742010
At some point you guys have to accept that it isn't propaganda from desperate people trying to spin a narrative - it's just people having fun demoralizing and humiliating you.

You're acting like a downy kid on a playground coping with his bullies by telling himself that they must actually be secretly jealous or scared of you somehow. It isn't nearly that complex or obtuse. You're just idiots and people find it amusing to torment you.

Should I just get Philharmonics?

>>55742625
Yes but the ridge autists might sperg a little.

>>55742608
It's fact we have spooks and paid shills here. I've been on /pol/ reading threads of spooks talking shit to one another. The most eye opening one was where a bunch of Cambodian spooks were laughing about torturing and murdering a bunch of captured spooks who were friends we a bunch of American spooks in the same thread. That shit was surreal to read.

>>55742404
>>55742481
Premiums have been coming down, so that makes it even more favorable. For example, back in March, when spot was flirting with $20, premiums were near $10. You could get a tube of ASE's for $580 or so.
Right now, you can get a tube of ASE's for $584 from Monument Metals, so don't just look at spot.

>>55732591
They do sell them ya know

>>55742790
yes, spot really doesn't paint the whole picture at all
premiums are fluctuating constantly.

>>55736482
YWNBAW

>>55742902
>>55742790
Anons, what decides premiums? Didnt know this

>>55743005
The premium is the difference between spot price and the price a coin/round/bar sells for. Some of it is production costs (creating a blank, striking it) some is incidental (shipping, retail overhead) and some of it is just demand.
To make things more complex, when you go to sell, you may be able to demand a premium for some things like ASE's that you won't get for, say, a generic round.

>>55743005
the places selling coins are what we call "businesses"
these "businesses" tend to like to make a profit, even after paying all their over head and wagies
can you imagine?

>>55735717
Nice stack

>>55735975
Excluding house, land, cars, and tools…. Stack probably accounts for 90% of my wealth.

i'm starting to get frustrated

>>55736255
The treasuries of countries are not investment brokers. Buying and holding is not a solid plan despite what you may think

Snowline, Doubleview, TDW, and WTI fops ftw

>>55743442
Oof and Ithought I had it bad.

1pbtid FUD trying to make new highs. I guess the financial system is really fucked this time. Good luck metalbros. Blessings to all.

>>55741225
Based.

Anybody have the infographic that lists and defines the many disinformation strategies like "bad-jacketing"?

>>55744246
A b-b-b-badjak!???

>>55741225
I have a couple silver Morgan copies, haven't ponied up for the real ones yet.

Mail came early

>>55742290
I also bought most of my silver on ebay. I buy from professional vendors I trust, not random scammers. Recently they added financing for gold and silver here which means I'll buy a lot more than I can normally afford because of FOMO.

>>55744412
3 rolls one all Mercury and two all Roosevelt. Should’ve could’ve would’ve been better to wait two days for the dip. Oh well

>>55736838
We live in exciting times. The golden days of post WW2 prosperity are over and most people don't want to accept it.

19x is considered a decent price for 90% junk right, i have my pretty pretty millennial stack that i dont want to give up now time to get some of this shitty silver in the crazyman canvas bag

>>55744511
That's a fantastic price, if I can ever find 90% for anything under 24x fv I gobble as much of it up as I can afford. One big shop in my area sells it for 28x fv and can barely keep it stocked, the demand is unreal

Nothing happening today.

>>55744511
>>55744555
you have cashback card, yes? hit up ebay for free shipping. many deals

>>55744555
>>55744626
i feel like the people buying from LCS cant be that stupid to be paying so much over what a simple google search shows them, its like "I dont want to get ripped off online", meanwhile the LCS owner is buying his shit from these same online dealers

>>55743637
that's pretty quick. what did you order?

>>55744885
Ah yeah, I guess the week-long delay between me paying and it being put into the mail isn't shown. I ordered and Alexander tetradrachme from the Babylonian mint. He's so based and I am super duper freaking excited to get it. What did you order?

>>55744991
>Alexander tetradrachme from the Babylonian mint
i'd be excited for that too. didn't get anything that nice but excited to get the weimar 5 mark.

>super conductor hype
>everyone freaking out

how will this effect the price of silver / copper / gold?

Who here answered the call and bought pre 2010? I have been holding a lot of stuff for a long time but I might start a second stashed cache. Any of you also do this and if so what is the limit? I can probably afford 1 oz gold and 100 oz of silver.

>>55745312
That looks really neat, anon. I've never seen one of those. You'll have to share a pic when you get it! I've been saving my credit card rewards points for some months. I was planning to trade the points for a quarter ounce of gold, but the tetradrachme was beckoning me too strongly. Maybe next time I'll go with the gold quarter ounce (but desu I want a nice Athenian owl so... heh, we'll see).

>>55745334
It won't do anything, other than cause a bunch of retards here to overextended themselves on buffalo rounds, lmao.

>>55745334
1) it's overhyped shit that won't change anything. basically just a nifty science experiment to show others
2) silver and gold aren't used as super conductors anyway so it's irrelevant

>>55744472
I think most people don't believe it. And you can't blame them as they are bombarded with lies from every supposedly reliable source. But they will believe it eventually.

The Greek god Hephaestus (also called Vulcan), god of metalworking, had animate handmaidens he forged from gold that helped him around his shop.

>>55744626
Shipping:
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This item may be subject to duties and taxes upon delivery

REEEEEE I want my canada free shipping and declared value $1 "scrap metal" customs declaration

>>55745557
Just minimize the shipping by getting 12 rolls

>>55745383
gold is, but I can't really stomach paying 2k/oz for a metal that there's ~120m oz mined per year.
It's also at an all-time high.
Got plat instead

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I..I missed the train stacker bros.. You'll have to go on without me

Just unboxed this today it came out at a MS-65. I know PCGS is shit now but I felt like I had to send this coin somewhere. Hit pretty big on it too I just got it from my grandma's dead husband.

guys, its tiny luther time

>>55746669
why isn't there a picture of the actual coin then anon

>>55744621
The slurping orgy might be over, August is a calm month usually.

>>55745370
>Alexander tetradrachm
Very nice, can't wait for you to post pics.

Where do you get those tiny coin holders?

>>55746694

I also did these as well but nothing special

>>55746823
Does anyone have recommendations on selling something like this? Should get it put into an auction or something like that?

>>55746694
Wow I can't believe Martin Luther lived to be almost 500 years old

>>55746856
He looks like King Krug on this coin kek

>>55746823
>>55746823
would be happy with all of those

>>55746856
why do you think they put him on a coin?...

>>55744441
roll of Mercury dimes weighs 3 grams less than a roll of roosevelts. thats a lot of wear and tear

>>55747438
But at what cost?

>>55746795
I think I got them on Amazon, but I bet APMEX and Wizards have them too.

Would any silverbugs kindly look at this little bar I got? I try googling the name and don't get anything and would like some more info

>>55747496
Jackson prescious metals, selling for 250 on eBay right now.

>>55747496
"Luhrman founded a precious metals refinery in Jackson, Ohio under the name Jackson Precious Metals in 1974. It would run into financial difficulties in the 1990s and he would sell it to Alan Stockmeister, a Jackson native who owned many local area businesses, including the local newspaper."

>>55747496
You could probably trick some boomer into thinking it was from JP Morgan's vaults

>>55747438
I’ll take two mercs over two spawn of satan shabbos dimes anyday

What do you guys think of this coin?
>https://www.abcbullion.com.au/store/gold/gcoroc011oz-the-royal-mint-coronation-of-his-majesty-king-charles-iii-coin

It's only $10 more than the Britannia but limited mintage of 7500.

Should I get it? Or stick to the regular Britannias?

Apparently a company in Rhodesia made 1500 60g fine silver bars and 100 60g 18kt gold bars to commemorate the Selous Scouts.

damn...do I cop? I've always wanted one of these coins and $50 off premium...

>>55747772
The longer things take to collapse, the more devastating the fall will be, and the better off we will be.

Be patient. We were always playing a long game.

>>55747779
If it's only $10 more I'd go for it
>>55747922
patrician Liberty Head enjoyer. That seems like a great deal for UNC. I was going to tell you to get a real nice one if it's one of your dream coins but that seems to be the cheapest I can find anywhere. All the nicer ones are at least $2200.

Golding gold in your hand feels sooooo good

>>55747779
I just see the logo of a shitty baseball team.

>>55737931
The only taxes that are wrong here are Income Tax and tax on personal property.

>>55748152
Explain how inheritance tax is even remotely justifiable, commie

>>55748251
Because capitalists provide nothing of actual utility to society and only soak up value and capital like a sponge or some type of leech at the expense of people who actually do useful work and jobs for society.
I guess again I would have to say that taxing working people on an inheritance they got from their father who worked his whole life is probably not right but taxing a rich multimillionaire who inherited his fathers emerald mine is only right given the above fact.
Then again I think ONLY capitalists should be taxed and people who do actual work shouldn't.

>Commie

Does boxing people into your easily digestible stereotypes makes them easier for you to stomach and digest their opinions when they inevitably clash with your own?

>>55748326
...sounds like something a communist would say desu

>>55748326
That's a whole lot of words just to say "MY DADDY DIDN'T GIVE ME ANYTHING SO NOW YOUR DADDY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO"

>>55748347
This user is a CIA agent.

>>55748341
I guess if being historically and economically literate makes me a communist then you got me.

>>55748360
All you've done is try to convince us giving our stuff to Jewish satan-worshipping child-raping trillionaires is good, fuck off

>>55748360
>ONLY capitalists should be taxed and people who do actual work shouldn't
define "people who do actual work" for me real quick.

>>55747779
I ordered the quarter ounce version yesterday.
I was too tapped for the full ounce.

>>55748370
I actually said the exact literal opposite of this.
Get back to your desk officer cause you're way out of your league here.

>>55748371
People who produce useful things for society, or, live off the wages of their own labor. Those with nothing to sell but their own labor power. This includes the service industry.

>>55748395
inheritance tax is bullshit. seems like a stupid thing to bother worrying about in most cases. that person is going to burn through the money most of the time. they're just going to shit it back into the economy. you're suggesting that our nigger-tier government would do a better job with it?

>>55748395
Please go LARP somewhere else.

>>55748407
There's absolutely no justification for people who own capital not to pay taxes on the things they have generated through that capital accumulation. That is the end all be all to the conversation in the first place. Not only that but you are, for lack of a better word, pulling it out of your ass to say that people are "just gonna blow it" That is something you can't even full measure or quantify in the first place let alone say with certainty.

But to answer your question, yes, I think that taxes are not only important under a capitalist system but necessary to its functionality due to the existence of market failures. My biggest issue is that people who already get their labor exploited working for a living actually doing things society needs to sustain its existence get taxed on top of that while people who literally do nothing but live off that labor complain about taxes.
I would just rather live with out a capitalist system, but, if I have to this is my answer.

>>55748414
Go be a glow nigger some where else.

>commie USSR coins cool and historical
>Nazi Germany coins edgy and bad

I hate the stigma. I do want to have some Reichmarks but I'm not a literal Nazi nor do I have any sympathy for the Soviets.

>>55748326
>people who do actual work
So, capitalists?

>>55748462
Read the thread.

TLDR; No.

>>55747970
>patrician Liberty Head enjoyer.
They're one of my favorites for sure, I love older coins so much. Always had a bit of a hard time justifying it cause typically it costs a bit more than other coins but mmm so tempting

>>55748438
>Some rich and powerful faggots exploit you so here, let's make a system where even richer and more powerful faggots exploit you harder
>it didn't work in Russia, Vietnam, China, Korea, or in any other time that it was tried but TRUST ME IT'LL DEFINITELY WORK THIS TIME

I'll make a new thread if anyone's down

>>55737931
>>55737993
>>55748407
tl;dr: inheritance/estate taxes have thresholds so high, neither you nor your heirs will likely ever be affected.
When a person dies, anyone inheriting the decedent's assets can be subject to two types of estate tax (federal and state) and/or an inheritance tax. There is no federal inheritance tax. Six states collect inheritance tax: IA, KY, MD, NE, NJ, and PA. The minimum amount subject to a federal estate tax is more than USD 11 million. Many states collect estate taxes, and they all have different minimums before being taxed on what's over that, but even in states where they're collected, the minimum is USD 1 million - sometimes much more. Check it out for your state. And don't forget - what's disbursed can be split among many heirs, each subject to the same limits for what they get in their state. Rates for estate taxes instates where they're collected range from 7.8 to 20 percent.
Estate taxes are taken from the estate. Inheritance taxes are taken from the heirs.
Aside from the principal of the thing, is this a realistic concern for your family?
Good source for more details:
https://trustandwill.com/learn/estate-tax-vs-inheritance-tax

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>>55748575
>>55748575

>>55748576
Gay is always gay, no matter the practicality or scale. Simple as.

>>55748476
>TLDR; No.
>no

>>55748590
Your opinion is irrelevant.
The facts are as they are.

>>55748628
The fact you're gay?

>>55748637
Gods, really? Do you have to be a little boi?

>>55748651
>Gods
Come the fuck on, that's just baiting for attention

>>55738352
Donating to Ron really stops you from being a banker? Wtf.

>>55732002
For leafs in Mississauga -- I saw pic related on Facebook marketplace. It's a heavy 18k watch with a Swiss ETA movement that Brooks Brother's private labelled and sold through their stores. The gold value is about $5000 CAD so if you can pay around $5000 you're getting it with no premium.

ETA means easy servicing. Almost nobody bought these Brooks Brothers watches so I can only find one example of one ever sold used but they were private label watches made by Swiss companies so the quality is likely on par with Swiss luxury watches of about 10-15 years ago.

I'd buy it if I was in Ontario but I don't want to wire money to someone in another province.

>>55749651

If the anon that posted an offer on my boomercoin listing on eBay is here, I didn't decline your offer it just expired because I forgot to check my emails. If you still want em just out in another offer.

>>55748395
fuck off you faggot kike