/biz/ - Business & Finance

A very happy Friday to all stacklets, stack connoisseurs and cautious prospectors.

>>55748575

>>55748604
Has everyone been grabbing the sub$30 ASEs?

>>55748615
I did but not that many. I'd trade the 2013's for any other year if I could.

>>55748604
>>55748615
I need to get my car repaired so no silver funds right now, I'll cope by looking at the coins I already have

>>55748631
Good luck on the car. I've been noticing people with older cars getting fucked lately with repairs. Either there's something in the gas or mechanics are back to making problems while they fix others to create returning customers.

>>55748643
I manage to live only a two-minute walk away from the incredibly rare honest mechanic so i should be alright. It's really maintenance type of repair, nothing bad. He quoted me at $900 to get my alternator replaced (it's a $450 dollar part in and of itself), the entire engine block had to be removed to do it but he stuck with his quote. It was every last penny of my graduation cash to do it.

>>55748575
Can someone explain premiums and how to calculate them to a newbe? Are premiums different from supplier to supplier?

>>55748730
Just know when you found a good deal based on the spot. Why would you pay $3+ over spot when another coin or round would be less? Right now silver eagles are the lowest they've been in like a year but still over spot. Know what you want and what you're willing to pay for it.

>>55748730
Premiums is the amount of markup over the scrap value of the metal. You can easily calculate premium by dividing the price of the item over the scrap value of the metal.
Some people also like to bake the cost of shipping and tax into the cost of the item to further drive this point home.
Premiums can vary incredibly between seller to seller. It is very ideal to shop around. It is typically low for gold, higher for silver, and very high for items where collector value is assumed.

>>55748730
Premiums are the the added price charged by a vendor above a 'spot' price - the wholesale price for a commodity (such as silver). Many times you'll see a web site advertise a price of "$x.xx above spot". The premium varies by vendor, item, and/or metal (commodity). Even spot price is reported differently on different sites, though only by a relatively small amount. My LCS used Kitco's version as their basis for transactions.

>>55748749
Right now im looking at: 10 oz Italpreziosi Silver Bar at SD bullion. I Dont know if it is a good deal. Could you give me some input? Also it does not come with a certificate of authenticity. Would that make it tough for resale?

>>55748765
No one knows what that is. Are you buying for the first time or do you have a stack and like that bar and want to add it to it?

>>55748776
I have a stack. But I do not own a bar like it. My goal is to buy in bulk. I want to save for retirement. I am 29, planning on selling my stack in my late 60's early 70's.

https://sdbullion.com/10-oz-italpreziosi-silver-bar

>>55748765
Well let's see:

>$264.47 per 10 troy ounce bar assuming cheapest method of payment
>That's $26.45 per troy ounce of silver
>Spot price is currently $23.56 per troy ounce according to Kitco
>26.45/23.56 = 1.1227
That bar would be 12.27% over spot. That really isn't that bad. But remember to shop around.

This would not be a tough resell but keep in mind that when buying back metals dealers tend to only pay more towards scrap value.

>>55748796
I'm also 29 and that mindset is fine, but just know that stacking is mostly just keeping your money in your control while having fun with it. I say buy it if you like it and you're not going to sell it unless you need to.

>>55748808
Got you. Thank you for being patient with a slow anon.

>>55748826
My personal targets for premiums is nothing more than 3% for gold and nothing more than 10% for silver, unless it's something I really really want.
This sort of filter limits yourself from impulsive buying and ensures that you only get good deals.

>>55748575
>Don't Mess with Texas Edition

>>55748796
cheaper on ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/404342214824

Has anyone here had experience with "coinstv.net"? They have a high-premium coin I want for substantially less than JM Bullion, but I've never heard of them, and their site looks like crap and they make a spurious claim to be "America's first online shopping network exclusively for coin collectors" but Internic says it was established in 2019.

>>55748979
Sounds like bullshit. I would do sd bullion or those funny websites everyone uses in the UK

>>55748576
>inheritance/estate taxes have thresholds so high, neither you nor your heirs will likely ever be affected
>$11 millions
Are you really so short-sighted?
Aren't we all stacking because we know fiat currencies are rapidly losing their perceived value in real term?

That's exactly how the government put laws "to punish the richs" into place to be popular among the poors, who then end up bitting them in the ass, while the real richfags don't care because they have armies of lawyers to pilpul their way above the law.

One example : bongs didn't care back in the 90s when big property/selling taxes were put in place for real estate worth north of £500K. Back then the pound was strong, only manors and castles were worth that much.
Fast forward 30 years and now even your shitty, molden wooden shack north of London is worth that much. Not even sure there is any house left worth less than that in the subhurbs...
So the law designed to "punish the rich" ends up punishing the average bong, and everybody hate the previous generation for being so naive.

Slowly but surely, you are being pushed onto the higher taxes bracket, even if your real conditions of living are actually decreasing. That is why all the (((laws))) including hard numbers are always so perfidious.

>t. frog, where the inheritance law start at 3000€ and is set at 45%

Just wanted to let you all know I trained my crow to give me shiny things two years ago and occasionally it brings me silver. I have made 50 usd in a year between pms it has brought and regular legal tender coins. My goal is to train a female crow and have a family of shekel snagging birbs eventually. I also have a sunglasses collection growing because of him

>>55749455
Where did you get the crow? I heard they're free like ducks but not sure.

>>55749455
post crow, that sounds too cool to be true

How's this new super conductor going to affect PMs? Cause you know, it's replacing them in their only real use case.

>>55749760
The brics and the banks are still buying gold, im just going to keep doing what they are.

It's real.
https://www.thecrowbox.com/

>>55748575
I was going to make the new thread last night but fell asleep early, but this was actually the pic I had saved for it. Fantastic job to the anon who took it.

>>55748624
What's wrong with the 2013 ASEs?

>>55749455
What's his name? Pic of the birb?

>>55749915
>I'm just going to do whatever BRICSs do
So like, throw acid on your sister's face, blow torch live dogs to eat, get buttcked by shemales in the favela, shit in the streets, and then die in a neighboring country by drone gernade while sucking some guy's cock? Yes, the BRICs truly are a multicultural coalition worth immitating.

>>55748575
This general is slow asf, lately. It is truly over.

>>55750139
I noticed that you completely disregarded that he said that the banks are stacking gold too.

>>55749915
>im just going to keep doing what they are.
So they can rugpull you?

I'm trying to get my friends and family into gold and silver but it isn't working. What should I tell them?

>>55750529
?? What have you been telling them so far?

>>55750337
>I couldn't help but to notice thay you didn't complete address every intelegent point that another anon wrote in their post checkmate fudder case closed
K.
>/pmg/: "I HATE bankers! (((They're))) evil! Their actions are leading to economic CALAMITY! Day of the rope when, bros???"
>also /pmg/: "I want to be just like the bankers (:"

>>55749933
where i live there's a $10 bounty on crows, each
i think exploding them with 22lr Eley Subsonic HP is far more financially viable than training them to pick pennies off the ground

>>55748808
>when buying back metals dealers tend to only pay more towards scrap value.

So you should be telling them not to do this and sell to other stackers not a dealer. This is what I mean when I say pmg is filled with retarded information.

>>55750563
They're going to pinch your silver when you're not looking.

>>55750569
Selling is a whole different can of worms and I was trying to work with his level of knowledge.

>>55750569
selling to other stackers includes danger. people get shot in robberies all the time. with dealers at least you are dealing with a trustworthy buyer.

>>55750616
>tell me you have autism without telling me you have autism

>>55749343
Another example is the Federal income tax in the USA. The first peace time income tax only applied to annual income over about $20 million (inflation adjusted). Eat the rich!!! Now the waitress at Dennys pays income tax so the rich can get their subsidies and phony government contracts.

>>55750656
you also have transaction costs selling by yourself. with dealers you go and have money within 5 minutes. why spend time trying to sell privately to make an extra 5%?

>>55750616
Things that don't happen in a high trust society. Also things that don't happen if you sell online.

>>55750337
Notice that the only way the fuds can respond to the BRIC threat is by what amounts to ad hominem attacks on the individual countries. The fear is palpable.

And they can't respond at all to the banks stacking.

>>55750495
Funny. The USA is engaged in the final stages of the greatest rugpull in world history but I should be worried about gold being a scam?

>>55750691
canada is low trust these days. a guy got killed in his house selling a wedding ring in my city. He met the guy on craigslist and got stabbed to death. It was an overpriced 1ct diamond ring worth about 1000 dollars.

nowadays I only meet people if they are willing to FaceTime with me so I can at least have a picture of them before meeting up.

>>55750725
Burger here. A lot of cities near me have meetup spots at the local police station for you to do your business in. Before that, I'd always meet someone in the parking lot of a large store so there would be people around.
And carry...

>>55750225
it's been going downhill for months, all by design, regulars are banned unfairly and trannies are allowed to post off-topic globohomo propaganda to disrupt the thread

>>55748615
mmhmm
i usually hate type 2s but i made an exception

>>55750495
>rugpull my stack of gold
do you even know what a rug pull is, retard

>>55750225
>>55750967
Are the shills aware the anons they driven out will just keep stacking physical silver because they learned it's the best thing they could do right now and the propaganda they write here now to stop doing that is not reaching them at all now?

goodmorning sers
>captcha: 4GAYt0

limited updated early again. glad they're not waiting till the end of the day on fridays now...

https://limitedmintage.com/product/new-release-the-silver-bug-2ozt-999-fine-silver-art-medal/

>>55751120
wow 100% was not expecting to see that. maybe they will listen to my rm suggestion

crypto nerds will seethe

>>55750714
I'm just saying gold and silver are about to lose their use as industrial metals, as there is a better and cheaper conductive material. They're effectively reduced to the role of shiny boomer rocks they've always been.
>>55751023
How much will your stack be worth when they decide to dump all of theirs?

>>55748615
I'm waiting, soon they will be $26

>>55749343
>Are you really so short-sighted?
I don't give a good goddamned what your fiscal plans are or what the bongs are doing with theirs. I'm stating what the laws are in the US. If it helps, great. If it doesn't, great. There's nothing short-sighted or long-sighted. It is simply what it is. Stop making it personal.

Here are my boomer rocks btw.

>>55751180
Putting aside the unlikelihood of a practical room temperature superconductor being ready for actual deployment anytime soon, you are missing the point (or willfully avoiding it).

The highest uses for gold and silver are monetary. Have been since the invention of money. Gold is already in the process of remonetization with central banks and BRICS+ stacking to the rafters. Silver remonetization will be more of a grass roots phenomenon, but is just as likely.

Your superconductor fud goes into the same category as asteroid fud.

>>55751252
>inheritance/estate taxes have thresholds so high, neither you nor your heirs will likely ever be affected
was that you? estates like that are usually distributed to multiple parties. a good chunk of that is going to be tied up in real estate that's going to have to be sold (you are probably a huge fan of taxing the children of farmers off their family's land).

>>55749343
I'm going to assume something's lost in translation.
I stated what seems to be the current law in the US regarding tax types. If you're a frog, this doesn't apply to you. It is however as factual as I can sincerely make it.
As for inflation changing prices, duh. Tax laws also change over the years to accommodate inflation (pic related). A cartoon meme made by an Anon with an agenda does not engender respect.

>>55751432
>was that you?
Yes. And I'm pretty sure I mentioned splitting the inheritance.
>>55748576
>And don't forget - what's disbursed can be split among many heirs, each subject to the same limits for what they get in their state.

Seriously - do you expect that you will eventually achieve what in today's dollars is 11 million (I see it's already been upped to 12 Million)? So maybe I should have worded it differently so as not be so personal, but the rage evoked by my having stated the facts as they are is baffling me.

These are the tax laws. I didn't make them up. I'm not condoning (or condemning) them. It is simply the way it is, and I'm stating the fact s in good faith so you all have a chance to think about how you plan your estates.

>>55751546
if the USD really inflates to the level where 12 million buys you an average home, we'll have much bigger problems on our hands than inheritance taxes kek

>>55751546
i've gone through this process once so far. i'm familiar with it. if that amount is split between a spouse and 2 children, what does it get them? a home, pay off some student loans, pay for their kids college, a large lump sum brokerage deposit? are they going to be niggers with any of it? how many people do you think have the ability to not be niggers with it? you'll find a lot of people like this will raise some very underwhelming offspring that get swallowed up when their parents are gone. are they going to tear the family apart and waste a bunch of money hiring jew lawyers to try to jew each other over?

>>55751621
it happened to my family recently and everyone was very amicable about it. sold the house and split the proceeds. the house was in a far away place nobody really wanted to keep it.

>>55751621
I have no idea what answers you're expecting or what point you're trying to make.
What I think about how anyone else deals with their finances is irrelevant to everyone, including me.
One more time:
>>55751546
>These are the tax laws. I didn't make them up.

these fuckers sent me another 1oz instead of 1.25

>>55751546
I'm sorry but i have to warn you, you sound like... a faggot.

Hello /pmg/ friends. I was wondering if DCAing precious metals is the best balance between quick gains and risk. Since gold will always be valuable and the price fluctuates often. Can someone speak to this?

>>55751546
>tl;dr: inheritance/estate taxes have thresholds so high, neither you nor your heirs will likely ever be affected.
i bet something like that was said when income tax was introduced.
give an inch...

>>55751723
If you're looking for quick gains, metals are not a good choice. DCA almost by definition consists of consistent, periodic purchases. If you are lucky enough to have started when prices were low, it's easier to realize gains. If you have the patience to hold off purchases until prices dip, it will help.

I always read about how good it is to have commodities like gold, silver etc and I do think they are useful and I have plenty. But generally speaking, whenever I read about them the biggest fans seem to be people who believe shit is going to hit the fan one day so they fantasize about having big bags of coins and becoming a king during the apocalypse, which just seems stupid to me.

Obviously society isn't going to implode within our lifetimes so I ask, what do you plan on doing with all your investments? Sure gold has a great price right now but let's say 50 years pass and they crash. What's your plan then?

>>55750714
It is just fud, from the nometals crowd. We metalchads all gonna make it.

>>55751811
Just as every empire eventually falls, every scam eventually unwinds. The USD is a scam. It was sold to the world as a gold-backed currency, but the irresponsible, immoral, profligate psychopaths in Washington DC could not control themselves and they pulled the rug out. Since then, those same psychopaths and their friends have been riding on the momentum of the USD, as they fleeced the American people and the world with inflation.

Stackers generally believe that the days of the USD and American global bullying and financial dominance is coming to an end and that when the end comes, many people will find that what they thought was their wealth has vanished into the thin air from whence it came.

So the question for the prudent person who sees this as inevitable is "how do I preserve my wealth in the coming storm?" Most asset classes are sitting on a debt bubble that will pop. Banks can only be trusted to watch their own asses and if that means screwing you, better lube up. Precious metals are one of the few places a person can park their wealth and expect it to survive major economic upheaval.

Yes, some folks imagine making a massive profit. And if 90% of the population loses everything but you don't, that is going to look pretty good, even though it will not mean a castle and a harem.

I doubt that most stackers think there will be some kind of global apocalypse. That's just a favorite way of trying to disparage and trivialize people who are taking prudent measures in the face of impending economic hard times.

Gold and silver have been valuable in almost every human civilization on Earth for three thousand years or more. That is not likely to change in my lifetime. If I never need my metals stash to live on, then it will go to my children or grandchildren, or some other deserving person. Or to my favorite escort. But here's where it will not go: the banks or the government.

>>55751811
>whenever I read about them the biggest fans seem to be people who believe shit is going to hit the fan one day so they fantasize about having big bags of coins and becoming a king during the apocalypse, which just seems stupid to me.
radical ideas always seem stupid, until they come true. then people like you pretend it was obvious all along

>>55752018
and it's not an "apocalypse". it's a currency reset. learn the difference

>>55752027
Correct. Fiat currency always eventually collapses. That creates hard times for people who are not prepared but it doesn't throw the world back to the stone age. People get back up and start producing real goods and services to sell for sound money.

>I bought the bottom last night.
Feels good bros.

>>55752389
gj fren

>>55750676
Is the 1848 BP or a conversion?

>>55752484
1858*

>>55751953

While I agree about the USD, I don't foresee it totally collapsing anytime soon. Not within my lifetime anyway. There's just way too much at stake with it and it's clear the institutions will do everything they can do ensure its heart keeps beating. Even with the pandemic and now the recession, I still don't believe the USD is going to suffer all that much.

Either way it's a good to have and I like gold and metals. It's fun to stack and I love mining. Maybe the day will come I will be glad to have it. If not, I still have gold.

>>55752484
Replica of a conversion, yes.

>>55752671
>While I agree about the USD, I don't foresee it totally collapsing anytime soon. Not within my lifetime anyway.
that's called normalcy bias

>>55752671
Knowing a system is unstable and knowing exactly when it will fall are two very different things. It's like a spinning top. You know it is going to fall over. You can even see changes in the way it is spinning that show instability but it is still hard to say in advance exactly when it will fall over. The problem is that if you wait until it falls it will be too late to prepare.

The USD still looks fairly stable today, but so did the Soviet Union right up to the point where it collapsed. The USD is a house of cards. When (not if) it finally goes no institution will be able to save it, it will go fast and mighty will be the sound of it hitting the ground.

/pol/ has daily FUD threads now

wtf is going on?

>>55753168
nothing
go back to sleep and buy stocks, recession is cancelled

>>55749760
But nobody has taken the new material and passed massive amounts of current through it while measuring the temp.
Its nothing but tranny janny levitation stuff.

>>55753257
yeah it's just a fancy thing to show off in a high school lab kek

>>55749760
it won't, nobody is going to be using LK99 as money that would be fucking ridiculous and a waste. Gold and Silver's primary function is monetary.

Its basically comparing apples and oranges.

Sup pmg, I want to start my collection of coins very soon and planning to buy some within the next few weeks. I have lurked here for a while and got a few tips from you guys.

What I am thinking of buying is 1/10 oz of gold (I am aware of the premium) and I really like the Kookaburra one since I am into birds but it seems like no one mentions or collect this coin, will this be a bad purchase?

I will also buy some silver and I will be sure to pick up a couple of Kookaburras.

Thoughts?

>>55753648
could be worse. i really like the design of the coin this year so i picked one up. they're tiny.

>>55753648
If you collect, collect for yourself. Not some future potential value. I had a lot of fun collecting US silver proof sets, and I'm also aware that the big majority of the sets I bought are barely worth over the silver value. I only bought them because I like them, and that's fine.

>>55753648
the 1/10th oz gold kook is a great coin, def recommend if you're in the market for small gold

1/10th oz is fairly underwhelming as a size though

where is my crusader apu

>>55753686
>>55753711
>>55753726

Thanks! I will probably get a Kookaburra then.

speaking of tiny ones, i kinda want one of these

>>55752671
lmao cope

high chance of shipping otoyas within the next two weeks. will keep anons posted as we recieve updates.

It's not working buy more silver fuck.

>>55754275
good news! now if only those apu crusaders would ship...

>>55754296
"eligible" is meaningless

can someone explain to me why the comex gold price is 40 dollars higher than the kitco gold price?
>pic related for the tranime frens

>>55753648
The 2022 1/10 is a beautiful coin I would get it.

>>55754343
It can be "moved" to registered with a mouse click. The inventory might be meaningless and made up but the movements in either direction aren't and can't be complete bullshit.

>>55754275
For the gilded and the regular silver rounds or just the gilded?

>>55748575

If you bought silver recently you lost money, but if you kept it in cash and simply collected interest you'd at least be in the positive, physical silver is shit.

>>55755462
what if we bought square yesterday?

>>55755462
these are the interests i collected from settlement fund this month. covered most of the nazi coins.

>>55755284
all of them should be shipping at the same time this go, the reason they didnt ship last time is that all the gilded megumins were fully plated and looked like shit so we couldnt send them

>>55755634
lol holy fuck how is it literally every fucking time.

gold is such a great savings account

selling off some of my stack for a minivan to cart around my 5 (white) children, but holy shit it's painful to sell

>>55755843
yea having to sell like 20 gold oz for some big purchase would be painful

>>55755843
just 4-5 anon, i have some cash around for stuff like this and i'm sure as shit not buying new

>>55755843
Please at least keep the Pre-33, I want a liberty head so badly

>>55755843
based father doing the needful

in other news, my last white neighbor has moved away; supposed to be some lone old lady moving in, but instead i see a bus of hispanics unpacking their shit

i guess i have to move to WV now, i fucking hate northern virginia, what a kiked shithole this place has become

Scratch and dent Morgan's from my LCS for $25. each.

The assassinations of Lincoln and Kennedy put the US on a path of being controlled by usury and the federal reserve, but I'd argue there is a third man whose murder spelled ruin for America. A man whom saw the flaws in all systems and wanted what was best for the people of Louisiana. A man whose legacy is stepped on FDR and his banker owners.

An addition I can get behind!

>>55756701
I mean I'd take Huey Long over FDR but he was corrupt as shit too

I suppose at least he'd have kept us out of WW2 and Hitler could have won

Scottsdale held out on shipping my 8.88 lucky dragon for about 7wks. Even emailed me an apology. I think they purposely waited until the giveaway ended even though folks got some 2mo+ ago.

First they took the gold and silver out of our money, now they're trying to ban money altogether so that everything goes through a "credit" card. Pay cash/check for your purchases and keep stacking PMs.

>>55756867
You need to grease the wheel to keep things moving, and the Great Depression needed a lot of oil.

>>55756867

>>55756955
Jezza's brother is a loon, but this is one area where I agree with him. Also he's absolutely right that paying for that food with the exact legal tender wouldn't lead to his arrest and he will win in court. Personally there should be a law that while legal tender exists, physical payment has priority over cashless payments.

>>55756955
>keep stacking PMs
Hell yeah brother!

>>55749455
Reggie pilled. https://youtu.be/fLB__IZnozY?si=UiNLq-S38nsREgl7

>>55756701
Lincoln led the USA into a terrible, unnecessary war, instituted an income tax, brought crony capitalism to the Federal level, rigged elections to stay in power, inverted the Constitutional balance of power, and printed bales of worthless fiat currency. Only a greenbacker could possibly think he was a savior.

>>55757329
The IRS was only intended to pay for the war and the federal income tax became "official" in 1913. Lincoln wanted to send the slaves back to Africa and knew a slave based economy would screw America over in the long run.

>>55757368
I don't know if Lincoln would have done away with the IRS since he didn't get to oversee reconstruction.

>>55755843
I hope you're getting a Toyota Sienna anon

>>55757428
Toyota!

spending first night in my first house tonight
sipping on some michters sour mash
didnt sell any of the stash to buy the house
pretty stoked tbqh senpai

>>55755843
6 white kids reporting. We ended up getting a Transit 250 commuter van before the prices went up. If you can swing it, I highly recommend them. Crazy cargo space makes family road trips much more enjoyable by everyone.

>>55757368
To pay for a totally unnecessary war that helped destroy the balance of power in America permanently. Lincoln was responsible for destroying Federalism. He was a war dictator who jailed political opponents, rigged elections, debased the money supply, and planted the seeds for corporatism.

>>55757329
>instituted an income tax,
that was ended when the war was over
>brought crony capitalism to the Federal level
the Confederacy was the embodiment of crony (jewish) capitalism
>rigged elections to stay in power
this isn't even remotely true
>inverted the Constitutional balance of power
you mean like the Confederacy did?
>and printed bales of worthless fiat currency
you mean like the Confederacy did?

>>55757633
> totally unnecessary war
Preventing the US from become Brazil 100 years early was necessary

>>55757486
>We ended up getting a Transit 250 commuter van before the prices went up
yeah I asked for advice awhile back and you mentioned that

probably is the best option really though I don't think I'll find one in my price range, prolly be a sienna
>>55757428

>>55756659
I just got some cull morgans too, they're in REALLY rough shape, last time I bought the cull morgans most were pretty good.

Does it mean they're scraping the bottom of the barrel? or did I just get unlucky? hmm...makes me think

>>55756942
How do you like it? Or if it's still in the mail, let us know once you've got it.

>>55756955
They'll call the police on this guy over $5 worth of strawberries, but certain demographics can walk out with armfulls off stolen merchandise with no hassle.

>>55756993
>they should pass a law that benefits the people
That's funny.

>>55753648
>no one mentions or collect this coin

What you smoking?

>>55753848
Good choice, they are little guys though

>>55753848
Grab a 10 ouncer to go with the gold kooklet for that 100:1 ratio

>>55758162
yeah I was surprised at how tiny the 1/10th oz gold coins are

>>55756993
>physical payment has priority over cashless payments
That's antisemitic

>>55751105
Nice coin never seen that one before.

>>55753955
this lol

>>55758166
he big

Reminder to always buy the dips, ignore the FUDs and keep your money safe

>>55751704
How do you like that Guinea coin? I'm thinking about getting some

>>55753648
I have a 10 oz silver Kookaburra coin and I love it!

>he doesn't store his junk in a boomer bag

>>55755785
Do you have pics of the fully plated megumins? They were entirely gold plated? I think that sounds kinda neat actually

>>55755785
REEEE did you keep one error round?

Any updates from that brics gold backed currency?

>>55759267
Wait until August 22nd because that's when the BRICS summit is.

Any Bongs here calculated the melt values of local coins?
Which coins should I stack when I get change at the shops?

>>55759630
All our legal tender coins are of lower value than the their face value (at least for now that is).

>>55751120
ive been buying into your guys astroturfing your coins i like the bugs but you need to update your prices, you almost a dollar over spot on silver the fuck you doin

>>55759682
Dang it. I will just stack at a slow normal rate and not go full retard, at least for now.

>>55755843
If gold gets up over $2000 per ounce by the end of the year i might have to sell some. I got a pretty nice raise this year and I'm still living paycheck to paycheck. $10,000 in cash would make things so much easier.

>>55759267
not happening.

>>55759717
Nice gold. Imagine you would have the same value in silver, it would be huge and inconvenient.
>I'm still living paycheck to paycheck
Reduce your spending and you will have a surplus. Once you have a few month of basic expenses, 3 if you are alone, 6 if you have family, you can relax.
I save about 2000€ every month first thing after i get my salary. I buy 1 oz of gold and put the rest in a world ETF). That leaves 1600€ for spending, which is more than enough to cover my expenses (less than 500€ rent, paid car).

>>55759858
* They reduced the gold backing to 2.4% of the lending, which means it's just another fiat money.
* The members will have voting shares, the larger the GDP, the larger the voting shares. that means China dominates.
* Russia will not get credit.

It'll be grand.

>>55759880
where u getting that from?
the whole recent hype was from a single tweet from a russian embassy in some african shithole.
kremlin just relesed a statement to the effect of it aint happening. yet.

>>55757772
I never said anything about the Confederacy. Disliking Hitler doesn't require supporting Stalin. You present a false dichotomy. Destroying the Republic to destroy the Confederacy was a terrible plan, and unnecessary, if you really wanted to preserve freedom. But it was a great plan for consolidating power in a corrupt centralized mega-state, which was the intent and the result.

I'm not going to go into the election rigging, as it is too far off topic, but anyone interested can read "The Real Lincoln" by Dilorenzo.

>>55758985
i might have a picture somewhere but its dogshit quality
>>55759041
hindsight says we should have kept one, we made a note of that a while ago and plan to keep a couple errors for us/maybe the store.

>>55758985
>>55759041
turns out it was the yotsubas that got fucked up and not the megumins. Yeah in hindsight we should have pulled a few and just paid for the restriking of a few more coins just to have it. misprint community for coins is always crazy.

>Bought the dip on Thursday night
Feels good bros.

>>55758682
for you

>>55755634
Every time. Why are (((they))) so hellbent on proving /pol/ right?

>>55755462
I use my interest to buy physical silver.

>>55759860
>Nice gold. Imagine you would have the same value in silver, it would be huge and inconvenient.

1,500oz of silver is easy to move around if you are a man

>>55760149
>Every time. Why are (((they))) so hellbent on proving /pol/ right
it's the deepest impulse of a jewish soul to rip at the very fabric of life until there's nothing left

>I use my interest to buy physical silver
pic rel

>>55760149
Kinda wondering what will the 2026 wojak will look like.

>>55760240

>>55759860
>Nice gold. Imagine you would have the same value in silver, it would be huge and inconvenient.
why do you fags always bring this up
>muh tooo biiiiig
newsflash: silver "takes up a lot of space" because it's fucking undervalued

>>55751348
That's a lot of commie silver.
I recently bought 5 of the map ones for 40 zł a piece. Worst deal of my life, but could have been worse. At least they still have luster.

Also, Polishbros rise up.

>>55760240

>>55760037
i slurped some asahi rounds yesterday anon feels good

>ASEs going for $28.64
bros

>>55761058
the market is healing
the US never deserved such high premium coinage

>>55758768
i like them, but a big part of that is the image of the queen they use. the younger portrait just looks a lot nicer to me. the actual coins themselves are pretty nice, but many of them have been scuffed up or slightly milky. i was really happy with the 5 oz round though and will definitely try to pick the other one up. premiums seems pretty decent compared to most other 5oz coin alternatives.

https://www.boldpreciousmetals.com/product/3743/2022-st-helena-queen-s-virtues-victory-5-oz-silver-bu

>>55760412
I bought them last year for just over 30zł on average (35zł for the victory over fascism ones). It was the cheapest thing I could find in these quantities at the time, with just a little digging. idk how it is now.

>>55754275
>two more weeks

>>55761125
*definitely not saying not to pick any up. it could just be the vendors i've tried so far. apmex and goldeneaglecoin. i'll probably try a different shop next.

>>55759683
sir, if i worked for them, they'd already be well into their german tribute series

>>55761058
It's almost time to slurp again. That batshit pricing could happen next time, too.

>>55761065
Eggsisters completely BTFO

>>55759717
Don't be retarded and keep your gold unless you can't help it. You are not living paycheck to paycheck with $10k in gold. Don't fall for the paper Jew.

>>55759717
how long would it take to just set aside cash to build up 10k instead of selling metals?

>>55758162
Cute lil birbs

>>55758166
Thats amazing! I will for sure be at the lookout for a 10 oz silver!

>>55755634
>>55755812
Jews fund practically every organization and political cause you can think of, communist, libertarian, whatever, why? It's fun.

starting to make some progress. a monday delivery would be fantastic

>>55761709
a lot of the frustration really isn't pointed at a group that is taking advantage of what they're allowed to take advantage of. more directed at those who allow the advantage taking to take place. that's a lot more upsetting to me

>>55760009
I thought the megumins were just an issue with case size that resulted in the holdup

>>55761058
I paid like $27 each for 10 of them a couple weeks ago. It must be the BRICS scare putting the ASE's back in their place.

>>55761134
If you buy in bulk, then it's about 32,4 a piece on Allegro, but on Numimarket they go for 30.

I bought them in an antiquary store, so at least I didn't pay for the delivery.

>>55754275
>high chance of shipping otoyas within the next two weeks
are they sold out? seven lives for one for my collection

>>55761848
and people say BRICS is a nothing burger kek
it's already defeated the ASE

>>55762257
i have more than one of the regular version coming, if someone can't get one and wants one of those, i'll let it go for what i paid for it.

>>55761140
we like the two more week posting
>>55761818
megumins did have their own issue, your right i think it was the boxes
>>55762257
there will be a few for the store, and some anons will be selling theirs. atleast one anon bought 100 of them.

>Last post was over 7 hours ago.
What kind of jewish black magic is this?

anyone got any OC stacking tier lists?

>>55762635

>>55762697
no but im a Conquistador now

>>55762635
Looks like the /pmg/ tranny janny was given privileges over the entire site for half a day. Gookmoot realized his mistake and ordered a hit on the tranny

>>55762773
its actually pretty weird. i got home two minutes before holo replied. refreshed both the threads posted above and neither had any replies. refreshed twice and now both have replies. its like my own personal 4channel

we back online finally?

newfag here, why are premiums so high on pcgs sealed coins? do people really pay that? do they actually hold that value?

>>55762697

>>55762922
1. It is the premier grading service and typically only expensive coins are put in slabs. It's not really a matter of PCGS making the coin expensive it's more of a survivor ship bias.
2. Yes
3. Yes depending on the coin. Highly volatile coins will 100% go for the expected rate. It's more of a tossup with obscure coins.

>>55762697
>anyone got any OC stacking tier lists?
Any? My last count is there are 31, though 1 of them is a slight revision of another.

>>55762953
Oh - 32.

>>55762635
Saturday, nothing's moving.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BBUNzVeDiEQ
No wonder /pmg/ has been shit lately, normalfags are lurking. This was MY post!

>>55763032
>>55762635
4Chan was down for like 8 hours

>>55763036
Well that too but a /pmg/ thread is usually slow enough to last a whole weekend.

>>55762985
I was looking at a regular silver bullion coin. current year that is being sold for half as much loose. seems like it is really just people that are anal about that stuff that would want it in the slab. i am still learning about the whole stacking vs collector aspect of this stuff.

>>55763164
Bullion (or technically COINS) like ASEs is a special case when it comes to those slabs. They're like Funko Pops for boomers in those slabs.
Typically MS70 slabbed would go for like $70-80 and MS69 or lower is like a $45 fuckup coin. There's money to be made sending ASEs off for grading in hordes if you're into that.

>>55750967
>regulars are banned unfairly
I'm a regular, and I'm not banned (anymore… though I can't phonepost anymore, since all of my phone provider's IPs are rangebanned for all of 4Chan, but that's probably something different from this threads shitshow, AFAIK I'm the only Austrian in the village, probably someone else was pulling pedo shit elsewhere).
But a lot of folks probably are, or got fed up with shit, so don't post a lot anymore. Also, after two way to dry years,we're getting swamped now, and there's no way I'm gonna risk my life to pan 0.0000001 ounces of gold in some raging stream.

>>55763172
I was thinking about collecting a particular coin starting this year, mostly for fun because I like the coin. I saw them in slabs and just wondered if it is a complete waste of money. if they at least hold their value like that I would consider it for that collection.
>There's money to be made sending ASEs off for grading in hordes if you're into that.
so if you buy a few coins and one is pristine and you get it put into a slab yourself, you can add value just like that? good to know
thanks for all this info, i appreciate it

>>55763227
Yeah but slabbing fees are expensive, you have to be a member which is a big fat cost. The paperwork is also a huge pain in the ass, you have to know everything including market value and expected grade range. The people that do it slab like 100 at a time and get bulk discounts.

>>55763227
>I saw them in slabs and just wondered if it is a complete waste of money.
It really depends on what you're trying to get graded. My last PCGS run cost probably around $300 between the costs of grading and shipping and fees they like to add.
For an individual coin the grading/slabbing costs $40 alone in most cases but their shipping and fees will be around another $40. I really wouldn't consider grading that's worth under $500.
>one is pristine and you get it put into a slab yourself, you can add value just like that?
Not necessarily. MS70 is like the PERFECT immaculate grade you can get. Most coins fresh from the mint aren't going to be MS70. One single scratch anywhere on the coin would bump it down to MS69.
You can't slab it yourself either if you want anyone to take you seriously. The two graders/slabbers that have a deep base in the numismatic world are PCGS and NGC.
PCGS is the prime authority on American coins (including bullion) while NGC works better with world and ancient coins.
Again grading is an expensive task that is vain in most cases.

>>55763033
>called a keyboard warrior by a normalfag
It's over

>>55762762
nice. i will be a conquistador soon too. ty for the OG. i kinda want a bunch of them anyway cause i dont have my old ones

>>55762953
>>55762993
love both these ones. thank you

>>55763255
NGC slabs look more professional, PCGS slabs look like the plastic inflatable pool toys are sold in. Also PCGS has really been on a knack to call absolutely everything "cleaned", the acronym should stand for "Probably cleaned graded slabs"

>>55762993
oh yeah this one is a bit different from what i remember

>>55763235
>>55763227
>>55763255
its not expensive for slabs if you just like protecting them and stacking them with other slabbed coins

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832641129888.html

i like the way those reichsmarks are slabbed on ebay with info about the coin. pretty neat

>>55763316
you can buy blank ones without that stupid chinese holograph print.

>>55763316
That's suicide, everybody is just going to think the coin itself is fake too with a slab obviously trying to emulate a legit slabbing company. Just throw your eagle in an air-tite or keep it in the mint tube if you don't want it graded proper. Alternatively, since CAC is trying to get in the grading game proper maybe they're willing to undercut NGC and PCGS in pricing, and would be a more affordable option for Eagles.
Also, Aliexpress as a domain should just be blacklisted from /pmg/ entirely considering how much fake/deceptive bullion they're responsible for.

>>55763334
anon said he wants them for collecting. obviously you just take them out if you want to sell them.

maybe he has a particular coin he wants to put with graded coins lol. have you checked up your butt for a stick?

>>55763340
>>55763334
oh anon was asking about graded coins to begin with. i see now

>>55763334
I hope CAC's slabs fizzle out. Being a second opinion on a graded coin was supposed to be their entire thing and now they've undermined their brand value.
That and I don't want another ANACS/ICG etc.

>>55748796
Same here. Realistically I might sell at 50 though. In 20 years to 50 years what will the prices be? Or do we simply not know yet?

so this is a thing

>>55753915
At one point I was considering 100 ounces worth of the silver ones since there was a deal going on making them the same as full ounce Maples

>>55763682
Bimetal coins are fun. I got 2 but 1 got stolen in delivery. :c

>>55756701
Everyman a king!
and, of course, his killer was a jew. carl weiss.

>>55748730

To calculate Premium:

((Price of Item)/(Ounces weight) - (spot price))/(spot price)*100

Basically the premium is however much over spot price you’re paying for a given item.

>>55748826

Something to factor as well Anon is the nature of the item.

Premium generally corresponds to this.

Ie. the fancier (and smaller) the format, generally higher the premium.

For instance an official coin, produced and backed by a national mint (ex. American silver eagle), will command a higher premium than a generic silver round.

This has been true throughout history and is the reason why coins were developed in the first place; they are pre-weighted amounts of a metal, in a convenient format and stamped with the official seal of government. Ie. the govt decrees that this here is one ounce of pure silver.

As such they will be trusted by people more - more likely to be exchanged and for a higher value. Then, say an undifferentiated lump of metal (which is what humans used before coins).

The trick is to try and find the best items for the lowest premiums. By watching for sales, buying dips and making contacts with vendors and LCS’s.

So regarding your Italian bar. Yes it had a lower premium. But it also would be seen as less attractive by the average buyer, when you go to resell. It’s all a balancing act.

>>55749455

Careful Anon, that way can lay sadness.

>>55750967
>>55750967

Sounds Bullish to me Anon. They’re trying to stop Nature - and Human Nature. They can’t help but fail. In the meantime it’s one hell of a resounding sign that (((they))) are terrified, and that the worm is turning.

>>55751092

Yes they can’t help it Anon. It’s their nature. They undo themselves through their fear and doubling down. Always have, always will. Take it as a sign that we are right and actively scaring them.

>>55762697

Numismatic noob here. Just inherited a coin collection. Checked the resources in the OP and the coins seem to be mostly valuable. However most of the pre-20th century stuff is highly oxidized. Lots of completely blackened silver and brass. Should I vineger them, or will it only damage the coins? Also, what is the best way to sell a whole collection? Reach out to local numismatic stores? Because I imagine selling one by one will just be a pain in the ass.

>>55764223
>hould I vineger them, or will it only damage the coins?
No. Leave them be, show pictures of the coins

>>55764234
>Leave them be
Why? Would it damage the coin? Remove too much rust and make it harder to identify?
>Show
Can't right now, already packed up for a journey home, but I'll get pics in a days time or so

>>55764223
don't clean them at all, post pics here when you can, selling one by one on eBay is probably the best way for profit

don't feel rushed to sell, do your research

post your fondler /pmg/

for me, it's the 50 peso; sovs and franks look great but fondling dime size coins is just no fun

>>55764275
>Why? Would it damage the coin? Remove too much rust and make it harder to identify?
Numismatic are picky people you are more likely to damage the coin by cleaning then it's worth. Don't DO IT


>Can't right now, already packed up for a journey home, but I'll get pics in a days time or so
That's, again DON'T CLEAN THE COINS. You will lose thousands of dollars of value if you do it wrong and this has happend before. DONT DO IT>

>>55764275
I can give a rundown of the coins though:
>A lot of Tsarist coins, ranging from 1735 to late 19th century
>Some 2nd Reich and Weimar coins
>Few Polish coins, oldest dating to Sigismund III
>Lots of random commiecoins
>Some Interwar Polish and Baltic coins
>A couple of 1900-1920 US coins
>Like 3 1916 Ostfront German coins

>>55764307
For example

>Cleaning old coins might seem like a good way to revitalise the appearance of a treasured item, but could in fact reduce a coin's value significantly, and should be avoided. Particularly in the case of old precious metal coins, cleaning them is most definitely not recommended! Many British coins, especially those from 1946 and earlier, could contain silver, and in some cases perhaps gold. Cleaning old coins from before WWII then should be carefully considered first, and time should be taken to identify the coin, so you can be sure what metal(s) it contains.


https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/index/collectible-coins/cleaning-old-coins/

>>55751348
Based pshek. I have a big stack of Jadwigas

>>55764307
You should list them on eBay and have anons buy up your stack. Do not sell the lot because they will offer you 60% value of each coin maximum.

>>55764223
Don't touch them. Sell them as is

>>55764295
I carry them around in my wallet all the time. Feels good to always have some real money. They're a nice ice breaker, too. I'm surprised how many actually like them.

gold or silver anons?

>Gold and silver are both precious metals valued for their beauty and rarity, but they have distinct characteristics that appeal to different tastes. Some people may prefer the warm, rich, and lustrous appearance of gold, while others might appreciate the cool, shiny, and versatile nature of silver.

>In various cultures, gold has historically been associated with wealth, luxury, and status, making it a symbol of opulence. On the other hand, silver is often connected to elegance, modernity, and a more understated beauty.

>>55765155
Nigga you can have both

>>55764701
>psst hey kid wanna see my nazi coins? *unbuttons coat*

>>55765256
nigga i'm asking your preference

>>55765346
They both represent real money to me, so my preference is both. I'll probably switch to almost exclusively gold once I hit 500 or so ounces of silver though; shit gets bulky.

Anyone want to discuss the long-term macro outlook on precious metals?

>>55765569
it goes up?

At my LCS Im looking at a 1884-O Morgan dollar that is graded AU for 50 usd and a 1923 Peace dollar BU for 37. Should I turn to ebay or is this a decent deal?

>>55765346
Gold.

>>55765569
What will happen now that boomers are dying and their millennial kids are selling their stacks?

Latest haul. Is it gay to have animu guardian for my pms?

>>55765725
better to be safe than sorry

>>55765649
Save some more money and get something in the $100-$200 range that is nice enough for you to recoupe your money instead of getting cull prices back when you sell them. (Especially graded)

>>55765346
Well for me it's gold but this discussion makes the thread uncomfy four times out of five

>>55765649
That's approaching bad deal but not quite

>>55765720
better ask what happens to their 401k and the stock market, because there aren't that many boomer stackers despite the meme

Sell your useless boomer rocks and keep your money in a savings account instead.

>>55765908
i was going to say something about this before. how are equity prices going to be impacted by them dying off. does it paint a bright picture or maybe one that maybe isn't necessarily so bright?

>>55765975
No, l don't think l will.

>>55766008
one is manipulated down, one is manipulated up

>>55766015
i'm hoping so

>>55765725
bet you'd feel real gay when your stack was gone b/c no guardian

>>55766021
Don't hope and go all in, spread it around (fuck yeah?)

>>55766008
>how are equity prices going to be impacted by them dying off
nobody really knows

I think gen y/z will buy the dips, maybe underperform for a decade but ultimately come out okay in the long run

I think in the global view, the 3rd world will keep holding the bag for 1st world excesses/degeneracy until all the whites are gone or we have a nuclear war

this is why I diversify: boomer 401k, degen leveraged ETFs in my IRA, Bitcoin, and last but not least gold

>>55765155
Gold.
Maple Leaf or Britannia, something with very strong security features.
Everything else is for poor people.

>>55766263

>>55765155
>gold or silver anons?
Both, in a ration around 100oz silver to 1 oz gold for me, thanks.

>>55766341
Billy, yes!

>>55766196
>this is why I diversify: boomer 401k, degen leveraged ETFs in my IRA, Bitcoin, and last but not least gold
This, diversification is the key.
I can save 1800€ a month. I buy ETF for 450€ every two weeks and 1 oz of gold every two month.

Sadly i can't automate the gold buying. I said it before, i say it again. Once someone comes up with a gold savings plan, where you get the gold delivered to your home, i'll be on it. Depending on the delivery method i would be willed to pay 2% for the service on top of the regular premiums.

As for bitcoin, thanks, but it's speculation, i just want to store value.

>>55765155
All in on silver. Do or die. 420 blaze it.

QUICK EVERYBODY LOOK OUT!!!!!
THERE'S A SCHIZO TRANNY ON THE LOOSE.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>55766380
Aren't all trannies schizo?
What was the purpose of your post? Stating the obvious?

>>55766366
Burgers and aussies already have this

>>55766380
how the fuck is the relevant, GTFO

Feels good man

>>55766341
Excellent diversification, anon.

>>55766366
>Once someone comes up with a gold savings plan, where you get the gold delivered to your home
apmex does this

>>55766666
There's a coin shop near me that does it. Heck, even the US Mint has subscriptions.

>Once someone comes up with a gold savings plan, where you get the gold delivered to your home
Anyone doing this in Germany?

>>55766742
Yeah I think Philoro does that, you can also take delivery but only for gold

https://edelmetallsparer.at/

>>55766666
>quintuple devil
holy shit my digits

counted the stack, about 55oz of silver and about half oz of gold

>>55766742
Well, actually using google reveals some services, even in Germany.

>>55766666
Witnessed my boy!

Cashless banks are on the horizon next month in the UK.

https://youtu.be/gTlYmgGDvtM

>From September 11th Nat West Bank will be limiting the amount of cash that you can deposit and withdraw.

>They also have the right to refuse cash and even cheques on any basis in their new terms & conditions.

>The banks are trying to force a cashless society upon us!

>>55766848
Simpel as

kill yourself faggot

>>55766263
my silver stack alone is worth more than all your gold, faggot

>>55765720
Nothing significant. Boomer stacks are a drop in the bucket. Plus, they are not going to drop dead in a single event. It will be spread over decades. Peak boomer is 66 now. The last of his kind will still be around in 25 years.

>>55761058
Wake me up when ASEs are back to $1-2 over spot like they were in 2019.

>>55766263
Fuck maples. Fuck brits. Fuck sercuirty features. Real ballers buy RAW AMERICAN GOLD because we like to live dangerously!

>Leave /pmg/ six months ago because the threads had gone to shit
>Come back today, threads slightly better, but a lot slower
What happened?

>>55767411
41%

>300

>>55767411
jannies are on a ban spree

>>55767453
>jannies are on a ban spree
probably this, I mentioned a literal historical fact about jews and got a warning to go to /x/ for conspiracy theories

>>55767453
That's a shame. I guess /pmg/ as I once knew it is truly dead, at least I come back when things aren't at their worst.
That being said if everything continues being ruined by shills, feds and redditors, this'll probably be the last time I post in this general for a while (at least until we have a big financial happening).

Time to start migrating to a new thread lads, let's make /pmg/ great again!
>>55767571
>>55767571
>>55767571

>>55767523
>That being said if everything continues being ruined by shills, feds and redditors, this'll probably be the last time I post in this general for a while (at least until we have a big financial happening).
this is the best course of action, with pretty much all of 4chan and social media in general

>>55767577
couldn't help myself :)

>>55767416
>306

finishing this thread

>>55768356
done

>>55751154

>>55768906
I will now buy your token (silver).