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it's our time now

first for arbitrary precision arithmetic

I hope u like red, cuz that's what we are going to see for the next couple weeks

BOILchads… I should’ve bought today instead of dropping 5k yesterday…

powell will be the only chairmen in history to preside over two market crashes and the worst bear market in bond history

>>55731301
I'm no economist, and of the many predictoors I know the last I checked they were all still gainfully employed. That being said, the Fed has not cut rates absent a recession since the early 80s. Every time since then when they have cut rates meaningfully it is in response to the economy or something else breaking. So I think there are two scenarios ahead:

1) Economy is going well and continues to do so. Inflation comes down to 2%, or close, and unemployment remains low. Why would the Fed cut? In this case I think stocks vomit as they realize long-term rates might actually stay higher at 4-5%

2) Economy slows down or enters a recession (probably mild) and Fed cuts, idk what stocks are likely to do. Maybe vomit now that the economy is no longer in a goldilocks zone in this scenario

Basically I don't trust what WIRP is projecting. Why would the Fed cut rates just for the fun of it if the economy is perfectly fine? The last time they did that it's because they had risen rates back up to nearly 12% in the Volcker years to really snuff out inflation

>tomarrows

>>55731376
interesting, but in fact, no, it is not

Is it a good time to short the spx NOW or will Jerome/AAPL earnings just reverse because fuck you?

Bears have one day to themselves, and now they think they own the place. Go fuck yourselves.

>The United States has become a much less reliable country and cracks are showing
>EVERYONE GET INTO US DOLLARS
Explain this shit right fucking now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wrsZog8qXg

>>55731405

>>55731406
it is never a good idea to short the S&P500.

Hes got the whole world in his hands
Hes got the whole wide world in his hands

So to recap for the people not paying attention, no one gave two shits about the US credit rating until - suddenly - a ratings house owned by none other than Hearst publishes a surprise change, not long after upgrading Brazil's credit rating. Conveniently, pretty much everything goes from right on the line of technically overbought all the way to technically oversold, within 45 minutes of the trading session opening. Anyone who thinks this shit is organic is too far gone to save.

WOAH THATS A BIG SHAKEOUT

Me last night looking at SPY $452 puts for $10:
>”There’s no way it will fall to that level tomorrow!”

>>55731413
Still better then literally everyone else

When is that fruit company supposed to report their earnings? I reckon these droughts and shit are going to fuck up their earnings causing a huge miss.

CALLING ALL SLURPERS TO REPORT FOR DUTY NOW

>>55731428
Longterm I agree. But I meant for some days.

>>55731396
Like I said, in all caps, BE SURE TO KEEP PLENTY OF FREE CAPITAL FOR AVERAGING DOWN.
Man what BARGAINS today! No doubt I wish I had more free capital to buy now rather than earlier, but them's the breaks!

my portfolio uaaAaAaAaAaAaAaAaAaAahh

>>55731442
>fruit company

AAPL reports tomorrow

some jude has a floor set on MPW at 9.7. Huge volumaic pump as soon as it begins trying to cross it.

BOIL/KOLD/UNG
wild buckin' bronco, scary fuckin' shit!

>>55731442
tim apple determines our fate.

>>55731467
Shut the fuck up it's a reit

>>55731443
no one is slurpping at 1% from ath in the worst historically month after the fitch downgrade (last time market lost 6%)

keep slurping reddit

my stop was like 3 cents away. might get triggered but first hurdle cleared

>AMDsissies getting pounded hard
How's it feel, bros? A semi company in 2k23 that doesn't gigapump on crap earnings, whaaat? Are you enjoying that big red candlestick?

>>55731475
a reit you can make money off of day trading it seems at the moment. About to test a triple bottom.

>>55731431
Kek, classic movie

>unsustainable debt levels, auto, student, credit, personal, mortgage
>extreme housing bubble, all time high 30%+ income on housing
>consumer is broke, no savings by October
>inflation is spiking higher, no more base effects
>interest rates higher for longer; more zombie company failures, lower growth, more bank failures if 10yr approaches 4.5%
>complete collapse in global trade, each month countries report doing 10% less exports from the previous month
>China recession
>EU recession
>dollar rising
>earnings collapse for 3 consecutive quarters
>1.73 standard deviations wilshire 5k ratio; 50% more bubble than dotcom peak
>**20x forward multiple** on S&P500 earnings (this is very expensive, going into a recession)
>earnings margin collapse, profit margin collapse market wide
>only in nominal terms are things "rosy"
>spiking delinquencies / defaults on all forms of credit
>new housing construction falling during strong summer months, in spite of strong demand
>more corporate bankruptcies this year than any other previous by this time of year
>yield curve inversion + uninversion in future
>130% debt to GDP
>$1 trillion in debt service
>other nations dropping dollars for trade, petrodollar is kill
>PMI / ISM collapse
>new orders / backlog of orders collapse
>commodity prices rising sharply (inflationary)
>consumer is kill, and will be even more kill in the Autumn
>crowding out effect from Janet Yellen issuance backlog
>Japan ending / lifting YCC, carry trade unwind
>ECB more dovish = dollar rise
>yields rising
>all time high paycheck to paycheck before student loan repayment resumes
>underwater autoloans
>collapsing commercial real estate value 60%+ value haircuts
>deposit outflows, commercial real estate collapse, inverted yield curve crushing banks - solvency banking crisis looms
>EU PMI collapse
>Fed liquidity vs S&P500 divergence
NOW ALSO
>US credit downgrade
/smg/: "Wow! We're really dumping on JUST a credit downgrade?? That's crazy, that's nothing!!"
L m a o.

I'm turning this fucking franchise around

I lied Im actually 100% cash

>>55731503
i shorted two weeks ago :)

>>55731488
semi sissies its time to put on our dresses and walk the streets again
https://youtu.be/-tSAKztV8c8

what's going on in this thread
>picrel
oh

>>55731410
I am scared to put in my money and I agree with you. This will somehow become bullish at the end of the week

>buy TX
>It dumps 10% in 2 days after being solid for a month

What stocks should I buy for the superconductor revolution?

thanks for the entry liquidity

i got my entire $150k liquid in CDs and HYSAs come at me

We told you not to get involved with that

>>55731510
damn firestone is the place to be for a pimp
fr fr

>>55731471
Yesterday it was very close generating a long signal for me, and was waiting to see what it did today. Well, I avoided a loss anyways

>>55731539
HOOKED

The fuck did you guys do?

>>55731541
I see why people want to move to seattle.

>>55731501
>he's still going
>>55731487
>he still has no argument

lmao. Just noticed you even included something about the BoJ in your ultimate schizo cope post. Meanwhile my yen shorts keep printing.

wow that's a pretty big selloff. let's see what happens in 20 minutes when europe closes.
>90's id
what's everyones favorite song from the glorious decade?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQj--Kjn0z8

>>55731546
kick ass, good move!

>>55731532
>>55718574

Why doesn’t TradingView list the national credit rating in the fucking economic calendar?!

>>55731568
if it's free then you are the product

>>55731532
This is like showing up six months early to the prom with a raging hard on and asking where the drunk girls are at

>>55731480
"Is this the guy who just got onto the boat 2 years ago? How often do we have to tell him this boat has been afloat for over 150 years by now and every time a hole appears, we fix it and continue floating just fine"

the last time credit got downgraded the market crashed by like 20%
this is not a day to slurp
bad shit is gonna happen
then it will get better

>>55731574
we havent even invented full conductors and they are talking about super ones! Jokes aside it'd be hilarious if superconductors become the next bubble after AI pops just like EV did.

>delta p
slurpers about to get educated

>>55731503
I went 50% sqqq 50% spxs earlier this morning.

>>55731567
What is important is the theory developed after this, with papers of reputable researchers with h-indexes of 70 defending a theoretical way of creating new superconductors.
So which companies are best placed for the SUPERCONDUCTOR revolution
https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.00698

>when you slurp the dip but it keep on dippin'

Is this all you can muster, Boboman?

I’m selling CCL

>>55731574
What stocks should I buy to become a billionaire for the superconductor revolution

>>55731607
i didn't slurp
yet
might close my sold calls on overleveraged semiconductors soon though

>>55731556
>he still has no argument
You're genuinely retarded. Most retarded person in /smg/, by far
>no argument
Here you go.
https://www.hiltoncapitalmanagement.com/blog/the-dollar-weighs-down-u.s.-equity-markets
>dollar’s inverse relationship to equity movement
>Currency risk bruises overseas revenues. U.S.-based companies with overseas sales (or investments) in foreign currencies will eventually need to repatriate income back to dollars. Converting a weaker currency into the dollar will translate into fewer dollars, potentially impacting sales and profit expectations. Approximately 30% of S&P 500 Index revenues are generated overseas, which can significantly impact index performance.
(as I said, which you tried to say "this is naive!!! I'm fucking retarded and uneducated!!!" you didn't say that last part, just thought it)
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/12/investing/dollar-currency-stocks-economy-oil-crypto/index.html
>With the dollar at a 20-year high, that will likely hurt earnings for US multinational giants. That’s because the strong dollar reduces the value of sales and earnings from their overseas operations.
https://www.fastcompany.com/90772844/the-strongest-dollar-in-20-years-is-wiping-billions-off-u-s-company-earnings-heres-why
>Under a strong dollar, U.S. products get more expensive abroad—and also less competitive. And the real kicker is even if international profits are slightly up, once U.S. companies convert sales back into dollars, what they’ve earned can actually fall.
https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/trading-investing/strong-dollar#:~:text=Besides%20hurting%20earnings%2C%20a%20super,markets%20downward%20in%20the%20process.
>Besides hurting earnings, a super-strong dollar can also hurt prices of US stocks and bonds by making them more expensive for big non-US institutional investors. Faced with higher prices, they may opt to invest their money elsewhere, dragging US markets downward in the process.

>>55731524
I liquidated and am also waiting it out.

>FITCH
manufactured correction to justify the bull glownigger market. market pumps on aapl and amzn earnings

>>55731620
its only been just under 2 hours
we have 4 hours and 45 minutes left to drop the other 3% that the market is going down today
this shit is not a joke and all slurpers will suffer the same fate as the boer in niger

>>55731556
>>55731633
now look at my post, where you said "OMG that's naive!!" >>55731393
"When the dollar rises, not only do foreign investors have to pay more to buy US stocks, but corporate profits are dented by foreign consumers decreasing their quantity demanded at each price"
>This argument is so naïve I wasn't even going to respond, but I feel pity on you.
now look at the links I just linked you.
quote
>Besides hurting earnings, a super-strong dollar can also hurt prices of US stocks and bonds by making them more expensive for big non-US institutional investors.
quote
>Currency risk bruises overseas revenues. U.S.-based companies with overseas sales (or investments) in foreign currencies will eventually need to repatriate income back to dollars. Converting a weaker currency into the dollar will translate into fewer dollars, potentially impacting sales and profit expectations. Approximately 30% of S&P 500 Index revenues are generated overseas, which can significantly impact index performance.
OMG!!! so naive!!!
You're fucking retarded, and wrong.

>>55731552
Abercrombie and Fitch downgraded American Eagle to Banana Republic

Qcom earnings after hours. I was thinking about going all in calls but after looking up price action on previous report days this seems like a bad idea.
Just a heads up for anyone looking to gamble on it.

STOP FUCKING SELLING RIGHT FUCKING NOW

>>55731405
You don't know that to a certainty

>>55731471
>>55731456
What’s a reasonable expectation for boil to get to in OCT?

>>55731480
That image is hilarious

>I didn't want to short AMSC below $16
>it's now 11.60
fugg

>>55731676
why would you think there will be anything but a 3-5% correction? we are near ath and there are no rumors to buy, only news to sell, august being the worst month historically

Bought way too early and now I have to hope for a $453 close by EOD. This fucking blows.

>>55731536
Re-inflation bro, you're barely breaking even

this is the kind of nothingburger dump where everything recovers on the next day, right? I feel like I've seen this before

>>55731681
ain't no tellin'!

>>55731691
There needs to be a 30-50% correction

>>55691075
SPY Bobo was only a day late

i'm thinking calls at euroclose

imagine not shorting nvda, a stock that was trading at 250 times earnings, lmao

>>55731697
So many times

>>55731711
wasn't amd at 450 or something?

>>55731681
BTW, it will be on the Jan contract all through from early Oct roll till early Dec roll, so might actually peak in Nov.

>>55731697
Yes. Slurp AMD. MM's are trying to flush it because they are getting gamma squeezed

>>55731667
Dude lmao

Will VIX be back in the 20s today?

>>55731697
I have seen this so many times this year that everyone is going to get screwed over if it actually keeps dumping. I agree with you but too scared to dump a lot of money into the market

>>55731558
https://youtu.be/DnyF26F7xrc

I miss the time before smartphos and social media

>>55731633
You're still failing to comprehend the difference between real and nominal, relative and absolute.
No progress can be made until you understand those concepts.

Link and read all the articles you want, but unless you actually understand what you're talking about you'll never get anywhere.

The dollar was strong 10 years ago. It's stronger now (less so than last October). Perhaps it'll be stronger in another decade. Stocks continue higher. Any perceived liquidity crisis will be met with immediate printing, as seen this past March. Modern monetary policy only goes one way.

So I finally sold all by BBBYQ at a 98% loss.
What should I do with my remaining $500?

>>55731660
>>55731633
>>55731556
Now we've addressed a stronger dollar, let's address higher yields
https://groww.in/blog/how-are-bond-yields-and-stock-markets-co-related
>If bond yields go up high enough to beat the returns from stocks, the opportunity cost of investing in stocks goes up and may become less attractive.
https://www.investopedia.com/investing/how-interest-rates-affect-stock-market/
>interest rates and the stock market have an inverse relationship. When interest rates rise, share prices fall.
>When the interest rate for credit cards and mortgages increases, the amount of money that consumers can spend decreases.
>If a company is seen as cutting back on its growth or is less profitable—either through higher debt expenses or less revenue—the estimated amount of future cash flows will drop. All else being equal, this will lower the price of the company's stock.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/impact-rising-interest-rates-business-valuation-dhananjay-walke
>A rise in interest rates can have a significant impact on business valuation. The cost of capital and discount rate are two critical factors that determine the overall value of a business, and both of these are impacted by changes in interest rates.
do you really not understand how free cash flow modeling works? based upon your posts so far, no, you don't, because you're fucking retarded
https://seekingalpha.com/article/137623-how-interest-rates-impact-cash-flow-analysis
https://archive.is/NKpO1
>The process of discounted cash flow analysis is enormously dependent upon prevailing interest rates
https://sapphireventures.com/blog/demystifying-interest-rates-vs-valuation-for-high-growth-saas/
>When interest rates rise, the terminal value declines because the cost of capital, or the discount rate, is increasing.
and still, you will come back to all of this with
>DURR YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT!!!
>DURR HIGHER DOLLAR IS NOT BEARISH FOR STOCKS
>DURR HIGHER YIELDS ARE NOT BEARISH FOR STOCKS
>DURR I'M RETARDED

>>55731710
>slurping at the beginning of the downtrend
lmao

>>55731602
>So which companies are best placed for the SUPERCONDUCTOR revolution
i dont know. AMSC already pumped and dumped because it has superconductor in the name. the identification of who will immediately use the new tech for commercial purposes is not immediately obvious, to me anyways.

It's fucking OGRE oilbros, the dream is dead. Oil to $55.

FILL MY FUCKING ORDER MARKET MAKERS

Bog theory tested, I bought a share of TUP and it was exact top

>>55731727
europe is already closing, it's over lol

HOW IS IT LEGAL FOR NVDA TO LOSE 3% ON THE DAY? I WANT A REFUND

>>55731433
>a surprise change
They put the US on a negative outlook back in May, this isn't a surprise downgrade

>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fitch-keeps-u-credit-rating-165641265.html

>>55731762
Call up RH support.

>>55731722
the squizzazzle bros!!! just two more weeks!!
two weeks is here
american debt is aa
the entire market is about to drop severely
this affects the entire world

I bought many shares of TMV this morning. After the U.S. credit rating downgrade, it is clear that the government is struggling to pay off their long term debt. TMV’s current price movement is a strong upwards trend. I think that shorting 20+ year treasury bonds is a good swing trade.

>Roth IRA down $2
its fucking over bros

>>55731743
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>55731771
Time to pick up a second job

>>55731735
>unless you actually understand what you're talking about you'll never get anywhere.
YOU don't understand what you're talking about. You genuinely believe that a stronger dollar is not bearish for equities. You genuinely believe that higher yields is not bearish for equities.
You're fucking retarded. You're also extremely full of yourself "Oh wow, until I mentioned the dollar, nobody else knew about it!"
It's rare that people are so retarded, so uneducated, so wrong, and yet so full of themselves and ego'd out.
>>55731393
"When the dollar rises, not only do foreign investors have to pay more to buy US stocks, but corporate profits are dented by foreign consumers decreasing their quantity demanded at each price"
>This argument is so naïve I wasn't even going to respond, but I feel pity on you.
now look at the links I just linked you.
quote
>Besides hurting earnings, a super-strong dollar can also hurt prices of US stocks and bonds by making them more expensive for big non-US institutional investors.
quote
>Currency risk bruises overseas revenues. U.S.-based companies with overseas sales (or investments) in foreign currencies will eventually need to repatriate income back to dollars. Converting a weaker currency into the dollar will translate into fewer dollars, potentially impacting sales and profit expectations. Approximately 30% of S&P 500 Index revenues are generated overseas, which can significantly impact index performance.
You're retarded. Kill yourself.

come on you faggots make it dump harder
i know you wanna sell some more, 371 on QQQ is right around the corner

LOTR stocks to surpass S&P500
screencap this

>buy mid caps they said
>the “recovery” will broaden they said

IMA
IMA IMA IMA IMA
IMA IMA IMA IMAIMAIMAIMAIMA
IMA CRAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Based STM. I love that lil nigga.

So will the dump continue tomorrow?

can the market just calm the fuck down? Like good God take a chill pill.

Starting to think that this "no landing" narrative is full of shit

>>55731818
if you didn't make money on it today, why would you tomorrow?

>>55731822
it hasnt even begun to get nasty
this is the calm before the CUM

Lol even Nvidia is all the way down to technically oversold RSI on the month. Great job bears, now Big Money can safely dunk on you again.

so uhhhh would you guys do an earnings play on qualcomm or nah?
i'm still salty my AMD gains evaporated about 2 minutes after the market opened

Wow, that was some crash! The US economy will never recover from this, I'm sure.

The Monkeys Begin Howling Again.

The Birds Are Screaming.

Footsteps At The Forest Bed.

VIX.

>>55731832
I'm getting fucking heemed right now. Two weeks of gains lost to the winds.

>>55731681
fuck it, I'll give you my honest own thinking about it, but like I said, ain't no tellin', and this is just my own personal outlay.
If you wanted to play it pretty danged safe, set a sell for maybe $65 to $67. I'd be mighty surprised if we don't see $70 again. I'd be pretty danged surprised if we don't see $75. I'd be fairly somewhat suprised if we don't see $80. I'd be a little surprised if we don't se $85. We might see some shit like $100. And finally, WILD FUCKIN' SHIT CAN ABSOLUTELY POTENTIALLY OCCUR.

>>55731838
Yeah. NVDA. The Baboon Runs Out Of His Cave. We Know This Because Of The RSI.

>>55731861
always take partial profits

>>55731861
the market is going to drop at least 10% between now and eow
you shouldve been hedging your positions with 0dtes

>>55731854
I think it more significant that the market retreated from ATH so rapidly, not that there was any possibility of crash or that bears get to cum. Are buyers unable to push us past ATH?

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BCC CHADS WWA???
I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE BOISE BHENCODE LUMBER COMPANY
LETS FUCKING GOOOO BOOMER VALUE PLAYS

>>55731742
Again, real vs nominal. I threw in that comment on rates as bait, although it is worth noting that TIPS saw yields rise from negative yields all the way to this recent peak near 2%. That rise roughly coincided with the market bottoming last fall.

Will be interesting to see whether this current shitshow leads to another temporary rally in real yields, or will it simply be long term inflation expectations bouncing higher as the inevitable soft-default is accepted?
If I had any faith at all in our governments methodology of tracking inflation, I'd say TIPS are a probably a pretty decent deal right now.

I appreciate your strategy of tossing up hundreds of lines of text interlaced with random articles by financial journalists (key being that they're journalists). Unfortunately, all those walls of supporting text are worthless as they're built on top of a flawed foundational argument.
I hope you can understand why I don't have time to reply to every single line. Time to rethink and rebuild.

i don't like this market
it's like we're always on the edge and tightroping between massive bullruns and massive dumps

>>55731871
>>55731838
seems expensive to me

>>55731858
I shit my pants

It really smells

Its leaking into my chair

The 10yr

I'm selling some of my BCC guys.

if you dont think this is a multi day selloff you are in for a reality check
THIS is the catalyst to end this retarded bear market rally thats lasted for 7 months

>>55731877
August and September are not good months historically for positive price action.

>>55731899
Why Does The Forest Smell? Answer me. You can't. Hint: look at VVIX for the answer.

>crwd

There is no good reason for AMD to be more than 60$

TO BAD Y'ALL NIGGAS DIDN'T BUY
TSN & GIS
!!!
I mean, at least they are green (the only 2 of my son's stocks that are today).

They. Aren't. Looking. At. The. Volatility Surface. Of SPX. There's The Ominous Peak Forming.

>>55731737
oof

THIS MARKET IS GETTING UTTERLY CLAPPT

>>55731923
VIX always rallies when SPX sells off due to the nature of the vol smile.
Hit me up when I can get 20+ on my puts in a crab market again. Until then, I don't really give a fuck.

>-1% DOWN DAY IN THE S&P 500
>RATE CUT BETTING ODDS X2
ohlolololololololololololol
addicted fucking gamblers on withdrawal

So if I am understanding this correctly, the real problem is that nobody was hedged for the Fitch downgrade. But once Krugman comes out and says "nobody cares" we can continue the bull run. Do I have that right?

>>55731923
Lower highs looks solid.

alright elvis you fat fuck, you made me buy more BOIL

okay enough

>>55731886
Jesus christ. You are delusional. Please take your redd*t text zoomer retarded self elsewhere.
>I dispute your articles on yields and the stronger dollar being bearish for equities because I don't like the person who wrote the article!!
You don't like investopedia? You don't like fidelity investments? Lmao.
Clearly, you're fucking retarded, with zero reading comprehension, with zero ability to do a simple google search
>higher interest rates effect on stock prices
>higher dollar effect on stock prices
Genuinely, this whole discussion could have been prevented, if you had just done these simple google searches yourself, and you would have seen
>Oh yeah, he's right, I'm retarded
Instead, you just continued to double down, double down, double down, and shove your head further into the sand.
>I threw in that comment on rates as bait
"I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED!!"
>real vs nominal
Okay anon, let's hear your argument - genuinely, I'm listening - don't go "Oh I don't have time" or "Oh, you don't know what I mean"
break it down for us, in explicit language, detailing your argument. The burden is on you.
Are you arguing that the dollar is falling in real value, even though relative strength is increasing? Nobody is disputing that.. and that doesn't change the impact that it has on stock prices
Genuinely, state your argument
If you can't even state your argument, I double down that you are even more retarded than I originally thought, when you tried to argue that a stronger dollar and higher rates were not bearish for equities.

>>55731946
Bull run is over until the next crisis and subsequent wave of stimmies

>>55731946
>Fitch downgrade

Bros did the MM prank us?

>>55731944
Yeah. There's the volatility smile. But I'm talking about something unnatural. Something even worse than backwardation.


Look at one of the back month tenors on SPX. You can see a hurricane forming on the vol surface. A vomma hurricane. Do I have this correct? I can't even believe my eyes.

FIIIIIITTTTCHHHHHHH

>>55731962
Still time to exit mumu.

>>55731946
fitch warned they might do this in may
this isnt a blindside to the biggest players but now that its actually happened, it has implications for global markets
as you appear to be a novice ill mention one simple thing you might be able to understand
in the big boy markets some institutions are only allowed to hold stuff aaa rated
you can imagine what this means now that they have downgraded positions that they are no longer allowed to hold

>>55731501
Sounds bullish to me.

fitch more like bitch

>>55731858
where are the tigers???

Option bros I’m gonna catch one of these gaps one day right?

WHAT THE FUCK

>>55731986
No post talking about Krugman is an earnest post. Get your shitpost filter checked.

Walking down the street I saw this disheveled man muttering to himself about market makers and the vix. All of sudden he got real angry and kicked a trashcan and started screaming "who's the paypig now huh"

look at the nvda 1 minute chart and revel in the slurper death

>>55731981
>back month tenors on SPX
the what!?

>>55732009
Yes if you can afford higher theta and delta.

>>55731986
So you're telling me that its joever?

>>55731986
>t.

>>55732001
I don't think it's wise to bring up the Tigers on /smg/ right now. It's too early to even bring them up because no one on /smg/ will believe me. No one will listen. Will you?
>>55732026
The Back Month Tenors = later expiry dates for SPX options.

If you look at the volatility surface you'll see a Hurricane forming.

>>55732023
it.. it was you, wasn't it? you saw your reflection in the trashcan

>>55732034
teehehehehe Kellogs-Knight got smol titties

I closed all my shorts just now

the market can go back up again thanks.

>>55732036
for a little bit yeah
and it might get brutal since were at multi year highs

>>55731986
But do we know how many have that in prospectus? Are US bonds still not the largest and most liquid asset in the world? Why do you hate America?

>>55731986
so... we will crab?

>>55731961

>>55732079
did they ever find who shot him?

>>55732065
i love america its a great short opportunity
>>55732071
if you turn the chart 90 degrees to the left i guess

Youre laughing? People are losing their retirement, and you're laughing?

>>55731971
>"I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED!!"
God how I wish you were pretending. Sadly, I can say with near certainty that it must be real.

>Are you arguing that the dollar is falling in real value, even though relative strength is increasing?
Yes. I've been saying that the entire time. Hence DXY only has short term correlations, but the long term trend has been a rise in the dollar vs foreign currencies along with rising stock market values.
Sometimes the correlation is very strong, and you can say with confidence that a move higher or lower is almost entirely just position of US vs Eu (and UK). Often times, dollar is just a small factor in a much bigger storm.

>Nobody is disputing that
Then why the fuck are you still replying? Why are you continuously declaring me retarded and my argument wrong. Why have you not made a single reasonable attempt to counter argue?
The answer is that you have no point. You never did. But you can't admit that so instead you ramble on endlessly with these walls of text and greentext and linked financial journalism.

>>55732023
>the paypig was you all along

the best part is NO ONE HERE IS SCARED YET
the house is LITERALLY on FIRE and no ones feeling the heat yet
i cant wait to see how much further down we have to go

Alright boys, what are we buying? I'm feeling like topping up on some more NVDA and AMD, but I'm also curious about Unity

>>55732041
>The Back Month Tenors = later expiry dates for SPX options.
Ok.
So what you're basically saying is that after a 31.95% increase in the S&P 500 over 287 days with no meaningful corrections and retracements to the downside (only horizontal consolidations over time) there might be a few down days and profit taking?

Isn't this situation when gold should be moving up and DXY moves down?

>>55732113
>gold should be moving up and DXY moves down
lol,
lmao even

>>55732109
long the market right now with every cent you own i DARE YOU

>>55732087
I have no idea, but back then I saw shitloads of people wearin' "I SHOT JR" shirts and hats!

>>55732111
No. I'm talking about the Volga Shock That Is Coming From The Trapdoor Zamma Variance Swaps.

>>55731981
>You can see a hurricane forming on the vol surface. A vomma hurricane.
I'm not a specialist in financial meteorology, nor do I intend to try. I leave that level of analysis to the experts.
In the end, all I want is a fair price on the puts I sell.

>>55732090
But why aren't the big boys dumping dumping their shit right now? wouldn't the market have taken a bigger hit by now?

You're getting fucked by SOXL, aren't you

>>55731691
September's historically the worst month

This is legitimately one of the most retarded selloffs ytd

How long do you think we're going Bobo? I'm almost 50% in cash rn so I don't really care.

>>55732127
If You Want To Know When To Sell Puts And VRP Harvest Today Would Be A Good Time To Do It Or It Might Be A Bad Time To Do It The Probabilities Come From How Strong The Vomma Hurricane Will Be.

>>55732126
>No. I'm talking about the Volga Shock That Is Coming From The Trapdoor Zamma Variance Swaps.
topkek
You're the bomma-vomma-zomma through the volga guy, right?
That once proclaimed there's an elitist /smg/ discord, somewhere!?

>>55732090
I just worry the triple a clause is a meme. Overlaying spx and tlt looks like an alligator mouth ytd. When do you think they finally match up again? I got nothing but time.

I don't have to pay taxes if i lose money right?

>>55732140
my soxl aug 25th 33 calls are up 70% or so
damn it feels good to be a gangsta

>>55732131
the selling has started lol
its in the big boys interest not to just crash the market
theres a rule amongst them all to basically never do that
so you get more orderly selloffs that take time to unfold

alright it's over, we're back

>>55732140
I sold my SOXS gains at +9%, I should've been more greedy

>>55732149
Lol. He doesn't know about the /smg/ discord. We've correctly predicted 14/16 of the last Vomma Hurricanes.

>>55732092
They couldn't carry a loss to save their lives

>>55732140
nope
>that roll
Disgusting.

>>55732126
>he doesn't know about the vega quadrant tractor beams

>>55732106
>yaaawwwwwwwn
Eat a dick, it’ll inexplicably be back up and you’ll be sitting on the sideline still saying the same old shit. Covid was our generational dip it’s over

>>55732164
They. Didn't. Listen.
Crouching. Skeletons. In. The. Closet. Forest. Of. Death.

>>55732167
I know about Vega quadrant tractor beams. I helped write the fucking paper on it. You don't know who you are talking to.

>>55732126
I finally got the joke fuck i'm stupid.

>>55732164
It really is you
lol

>>55731413
if the US is showing weakness, then every other country is fucked to a higher degree given the influence the US has, all the companies that mean anything are american
>chinkshit
no

>>55732101
How have I not made a single reasonable attempt to counter argue? Lmao.
I have provided you with 10 links, all saying the same exact thing as my argument to you, reinforcing my argument.
>Yes. I've been saying that the entire time
No. You have been saying that a stronger dollar is not bearish for equities. You have been saying that higher interest rates are not bearish for equities. Both of these statements are wrong.
You also tried to argue that the reason why a stronger dollar is bearish for equities was not because
>"When the dollar rises, not only do foreign investors have to pay more to buy US stocks, but corporate profits are dented by foreign consumers decreasing their quantity demanded at each price"
and you said
>This argument is so naïve I wasn't even going to respond, but I feel pity on you.
this is wrong. You are wrong.
quote
>Besides hurting earnings, a super-strong dollar can also hurt prices of US stocks and bonds by making them more expensive for big non-US institutional investors.
quote
>Currency risk bruises overseas revenues. U.S.-based companies with overseas sales (or investments) in foreign currencies will eventually need to repatriate income back to dollars. Converting a weaker currency into the dollar will translate into fewer dollars, potentially impacting sales and profit expectations. Approximately 30% of S&P 500 Index revenues are generated overseas, which can significantly impact index performance.
saying that the real value of the dollar is falling while relative strength is increasing is not the argument lmao. Nobody is disputing this, because it's fact. It's not an opinion. Why would I be disputing a fact?
We're talking about the impact that the dollar (and yields) has on stock prices.
A stronger dollar = lower stock prices
Higher yields = lower stock prices

>>55732183
Anon. Tell us all what the "joke" is.

>>55732147
It's still too early. I can feel it in my knees.

>>55732199
When VVIX Hits 110, I will know that it is time to sell SPY puts.

HODL NVDA MARINES

OWARI DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>55732101
>Why are you continuously declaring me retarded and my argument wrong.
Because you are literally retarded.
If anon comes into /smg/ and tries to say
>Higher yields are not bearish for equities
>A stronger dollar is not bearish for equities
They should be shamed, made fun of, and called the retard that they are
You are this anon.

>>55732190
>A stronger dollar = lower stock prices
>Higher yields = lower stock prices
This argument has already been dismantled with empirical data over extended timeframes. Incredible that you continue to persist in debating.

>>55732169
clearly you dont know what this downgrade actually means and you werent here in 2011

>tfw my stop losses for TQQQ + SOXL fired off
>tfw still green

Why don't people use them? Anyway, my biggest issue right now is when to buy in again

>>55731961
fuck it, I just boughted a little more too.

>>55732244
Retard.

>>55732197
>math.uchicago.edu/~rl/EQF_gammaswap.pdf
oh shib you taught me something today wtf, alright so participation is back up what's this put/call symmetry thing? $cpce prints record short dec 2022, just printed again a few days ago to the call side. I see the trap, what is the play it can't be a simple as i think right?

>>55732253
I can see the cope continues.

>>55731737

What made you take the decision to sell your BBBYQ?

>>55732249
because protective puts are better

>>55732269
>back to gamestrop where the value is
lol
lmao even

>>55731876
Honestly not too worried. It's obviously an overreaction with recovery next week. Still annoying though.

>>55732119
Isn't it? The US dollar was downgraded, it is logical.

High time for a -20% day on soxl right as I exit my soxs

>>55732283
this isnt an overreaction
the market is selling off slowly and orderly
clearly you have already forgotten what volatility looks like

it just doesn't stop

>>55732264
Anon, if you genuinely think that higher yields are bullish, you're fucking retarded.
If you genuinely think that a stronger dollar is bullish, you are fucking retarded.
I can link you a study on that, done by me, right here, right now.
I'm not going to get anywhere discussing this more with you, as clearly, even with 10 different sources offered all corroborating my argument, you still insist that you are correct.
If you insist that the Earth is flat, no matter how much evidence you are offered to the contrary, there is no point in arguing with you anymore
You can continue to be a flat Earther, and continue to believe that higher yields are bullish, that a stronger dollar is bullish.
You're genuinely retarded. Good day - not going to respond to you anymore.

>>55732158
I sold my SOXS on the scam pump last night at $8.58
I cri everytime

>>55732269
would unironically rather buy the volatility of bbbyq than fucking gamestop lmfao

okay since the stock market is being a whore today lets get some distraction. what movie are you anons watching tonight?

Why are my McDonald's calls not getting fucked by this volatility?

>>55732300
checked

>>55732269
Finally getting around to reading the court documents and just being done with this shitstock

>>55732313
Great fucking movie. I love how in-between doing mafia hits, the MC is just some music dork going to concerts and raves.

BOBO NOOOOOO!!!

ALL DIPS WILL BE SHALLOW

>WOOP WOOP
>TERRAIN: PULL UP
>WOOP WOOP

>>55732313
the spottemgottem documentary
i'm almost to the part when they link up

>>55732283
>1-2 pts down
>overreaction
It hasn't even started yet and there's barely any panic. Wake me up when SOXL is single digits again now that everyone realized the AI pump was hallucinated just like their shitty LLMs and I can start stacking again.

>>55732269
Reminder there's still a bbby thread and they don't plan to stop making one even after this.

>>55732269
>back to GME
they never learn do they?

>mfw I'm reaching a new ATH

>>55732323
Idk my ABBV bag is loving it today tho

Well my SPY puts just filled. Looks like the bottom is in for today now.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>55731371
Credit spreads on future options, specifically on /ZN is very comfy and spamable.
Thanks mr. powell

Shopify gonna beat? Last time it only gained that swing was because of the sale.

MAKE IT STOP

>>55732386
Hope that was the bottom. I'm in capital recovery mode. As long as it doesn't breech $450 today then I'm good.

>>55732360
>>55732300
Just let me cope.

>>55731371
Fucking down like 4% today
Fucking creditors
Fucking scaredy investors
Fucking Democrats
Fucking Republicans
Get your shit together

>>55732406
I mean, I would like $450 to breech. That's the only way I'ma make any fucking money today.

>>55732313
Not a movie but gonna watch Severance (second episode). Tis pretty good.

Metalbros, how the heck do we cope? I've already hit legs (single leg squat with extra 30kg, yeah pretty weak I know) this morning and I'm thinking of going again because this is a slaughter.

>>55732408
just buy 0dte puts or whatever bro
the markets only going to go down from now until sometime next week

>>55731981
VIX is safu
post the surface

>>55732429
I guess we're at odds with each other.

gonna close my options at 0.20 and it's currently 0.23
hurry the fuck up bobo, i got shit to do

Fuck it I'm opening a position in AMSC. Fuck it.

>>55732413
BIDENOMICS really coming through for us! I can't WAIT for his guaranteed re-election!
No more malarkey, I am I right fellow 4channelers?!

>>55732443

>>55732249
>Why don't people use them? Anyway, my biggest issue right now is when to buy in again
There's a fear-perhaps legitimate-that brokers sell hedgies the data on where your stoploss is.

>>55732392
I like your style.

>>55732445
maybe you'll finally have sex when the market crashes

>>55732460
chuddy boys day has finally come!

>>55732305
>10 different sources
A journalist writing what they heard in their finance/economics class or more likely simply repeating the same thing they read elsewhere online is not a "source"
lmao.

Stronger dollar would be massively bullish over the long term as it continues the virtuous cycle. We hire the best talent from around the world, produce the best innovation, have the most powerful military to exert indirect influence. Our salaries are higher, and our money goes farther. This feeds back into our economy, and we continue to win.
Instead of quoting from a bunch of entry level financial journalists writing basic help docs for retail traders, consider reading the book alchemy of finance for some actual insight into these sorts of reflexive concepts.

As for rates, it's a bit more complex as there's the conflict between nominal return vs inflation expectations vs realized inflation vs actual monetary dilution. I wouldn't expect you to understand this one, but conceptually:
higher rates => cheaper multiples/ shorter implied duration => better real return over time => stocks compound faster

The confounding factor is asset multiples, which can temporarily compress valuations. During the period where yields (real yields, to be clear) are rising, that rise creates a headwind against asset multiples. Stocks will always compare against the real yields though, not nominal, because stocks produce real earnings. After every quarter of earnings and associated dividends/buybacks/reinvestment, you as in investor still hold shares in a company that will produce earnings, and with more dollars in the system the earnings will naturally grow as long as the company maintains its place/role in the overall ecosystem of the economy.

Take a moment and actually read what I have written here. Think hard. Good luck.

DON'T TELL MY HEART
MY ACHY BREAKY HEART
I JUST DON'T THINK HE'LL UNDERSTAND
AND IF YOU BREAK MY HEART
MY ACHY BREAKY HEART
HE MIGHT BLOW UP AND KILL THIS MAN

>>55732453
... And do what with it? Retail isn't being gangstalked by hedgies, your prosecution complex and paranoia are driving delusional thoughts. Do you also think every white jeep you see drive by your house is part of some sort of conspiracy?

just bought SQQQ. i'm a bear now

WHY IS OIL DUMPING TOO? WTF IS GOING ON?!

Friendly beboo reminder, inflation is about to rebound

>>55732488
missed it

>>55732468
so much poosy just around the corner for the chudites
god bless them

you guys are cool, don't go to the stock market today

>>55732488
thanks, we're going to recover now.

>>55732500
Too late

Genuinely, why the fuck would Nvidia even be down over 6% today? For what actual reason would someone sell this stock on this news? I honestly can't fucking believe that it went from overbought to oversold so quickly, how fucking retarded are these faggots

>>55732493
No reason to go long WTI above $80. Been the same trend all year.

>>55732479
right on brutha

>>55732514
lol retarded ai "investor" spotted

>>55732514
Haha oversold ...

anyone here use Wise to transfer funds to their IBKR brokerage account? how long does it usually take?

>>55732514
the whole market is down on absolutely no news
very manipulated market

>>55732479
kek that reminds me on road trips my dad used to change the words to 'don't sniff my fart'
good times. rip dad

What are we slurping, boys?
got enough SOXL and some more $ to throw into the open bottomless pit that is my portfolio

hot stock tip for all the novices
dead cat bounce starts now

>>55732514
Nvidia has been overbought like crazy. I think the only company more overvalued than NVIDIA was Super Micro and theyre finally correcting down 7 pts today too. Could also go much lower though.

It will go back up tomorrow right?

lol the guy from Fitch literally referenced January 6th as a part of the reason for the downgrade. What UTTER HORSESHIT

>>55732514
>it went from overbought to oversold so quickly
>NVDA $437
>oversold
lmao, the road ahead is gonna be extremely painful (for you)

>>55732499
That carlos (achmad) finna slay no cap fr fr ona*

>lines are red
>qt jap hasn’t opened my LINE messages in over a week
WHERE I SEE LOVE
SHE SEES A FRIEND

Hot stock tip for all the novices
the end is here

I bought HMC
how did I do

IF STOCKS ARE SUCH A GREAT INVESTMENT WHY AM I FINANCIALLY RUINED

>>55732542
Never buy SOXL above single digits.

>>55732496
>>55732507
dont worry i hedged it with some voo

>>55732551
trumo!!!!

down days are the best
i'm not even a bobo

>>55732525
Depends on how you did the transfer I guess, assuming it's bitch basic ACH should take a few days.
Everything else varies from what I recall but also why would you use Wise as a bank? It's not designed for that and is murder on fees.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>55732562
Skill issue

>>55732552
>>55732545
>>55732532
>>55732522
>>55732524
How does it feel to be this retarded about semis for at least a year?

>>55732572
Completely insane

CHEGG NBIDIA GOMBUDER! :DD

>>55732562
Try a bond ladder instead, you won't loose your principle at least.

>>55732584

>>55732590
my biggest long stock position is aehr that ive been holding since last year
pretty sure i know what im doing

>>55732525
I wouldn't bother unless it's your only option. IBKR already allows internal currency conversion with minimal fees.

>>55732532
Bonds are spooking the stock market and the bond market is way bigger than equities. The rating downgrade is credit fud.

Well it better fucking stay down til payday

>>55731924
Add BASED DE to that list.

>>55732590
if it's down on absolutely no news(which it is) that means it gongo back up
checkmate athiest

>>55732544
dont all line up at once to worship me and my otherworldly stock market insight

>The US bond market is on the verge of a major breakdown - and that will send mortgage rates to levels unseen since 2000 and fuel more banking trouble, per Peter Schiff.

>>55732598
I have no idea what I missed, but that pic says it all with perfect clarity! KEK!

day one of organic price action

>>55732631
esteemed white male pissing in own mouth

Rolling for bank failure id

please give me a good entry point for NIO because i just don't fucking know

>>55732617
>per Peter Schiff.
Ok, so everything will be fine.

>>55732615
nice basedclaw

someone with more than 3 braincells answer this: ive been short msft and finally it played out, im in profit. however if msft is going down then the market is probably weak. now, i also have long positions in less significant stocks. should i hedge them or close them? i think i will hedge and hold through this apparent correction

onions

>>55732640
just a little bump or two in the market, nothing to worry abou-

>>55732652
you should be playing 0dte options on spy or qqq only
this is not an investing market

>>55732644
Sure am glad I missed that! I just saw some nearly as bad shit in the catalog when doing a brief check to see if I'd missed a bake while doing my HOLY BIBLE STUDY.

>>55732665
was he alright?

Yo, I' m back, wtf happened to my boy DAX again? Piece of shit, that's what you deserve for making me mad this morning

+10% SOXS gain locked in

>>55732677
standard SOXL investing experience
haha

>>55732668
that's what i'm doing but i'm still salty as shit because the morning flash dump liquidated me only for it to go parabolic again as i watch like a cuck

ALSO FUCK YOU BULLS, it's JOEVER

REDDIT SELL!

>>55732686
Genuinely, why did you even buy SOXS? What did you see that made you think "semiconductors are worth shorting right now"?

>>55732660
Better to take profits when you're ahead and be flexible in a market like this. For all you know Powell says something and we're up 5% in a day.
Ideally, if you can manage it I would be selling Covered Calls if you have enough MSFT stock.

It keeps going down you collect a credit, goes up and you sell the 100 shares at that price covering yourself if (((they))) decided to do a fake pump.

joever
fiNANCE
any more?

>>55732698
semiconductors are literally sand
that shit is everywhere
just go to the beach nigga
imagine investing in sand
JUST IMAGINE

>>55732677
I think this is it: https://nypost.com/2022/01/14/pro-skier-george-mcquinn-knocked-unconscious-at-fis-world-cup/

>PM Justin Trudeau and wife announce on Instagram that they are separating after 18 years of marriage.
Short Canada

>>55732732

>>55732723
If you venture over to /cmmg/ you'll find some folks who are seriously investing in sand.

>>55732723
kek!

>>55732723
The sand is mined in north carolina and shipped throughout the world.

>>55732148
check back in at SPY 440
>>55732149
if you aint gimel hedged ur retard
>>55732660
what >>55732701 said, but buy puts too. risk reversal op

>bears make money one day after being btfo for months
>now I slurp and will make free money like always+dividends

Lmao. Bear gamblers are much much worse than mumu retards man. Blackest gorilla niggers

>>55732701
>>55732779
im not up much my target is ~310. not enough for covered calls. I think going light on puts and managing very actively is key here.. just dont wanna be shaken out. my other long is raytheon (basically break even rn)

BEEP BEEP
Word just came from on high
Hope you cows took your exit pump, market giga dump begins now

>>55732698
I am actually quite bullish for semiconductors long.
This was a very short, short position due to the fact of US bonds literally falling off a cliff and the fitch downgrade.
SOXL has the most gains. therefore they get the punched harder

Kinda easy reading SPY today. Am I the only one?

cheg bfizer gombuder :)))

>>55732092
I want boomers to lose their retirement funds.

>>55732933
Sounds good to me

>>55732583
im tryna use Wise to transfer from my bank
>>55732601
idk yet if its my best option, thats what i want to figure out. i dont rly need currency conversion, just a transfer method

>>55732269
>back to GME it is

>>55732092
>boomers loose life savings
>forced to sell investment properties to keep up with Monster addictions
Make it so.

Okay, why is market red today? Is it just a general fear of overvaluation or did something actually happen like crappy inflation report?

>>55733157
US debt was downgraded from AAA to AA+
will probably mean higher rates
they cited recession fears and uncontrolled spending as reasons

>>55732698
>he's not a reversal trader

>>55733417
Tbh this insane govt spending is lowkey what is propping up the fucking economy ontop of the gig economy.