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BOIL/KOLD/UNG

>>55721412
can anyone help?
I am using the Interactive Brokers demo.
I opened a position together with a hedge pair trade.

put the hedge ratio correctly but when everything is executed, the short side's 'mkt value' in portfolio monitor is overvalued.

I understand the ratio between market values of both positions should be as close to 1 as possible.
instead, I have to manually add another contract to make that happen

You do get your finance news with a side of booba, dont you anon?
https://youtu.be/kqBxSh6Jdxg

>>55721412
Hows oil looking for yall?, $81 rn.

>>55721447
Line go up

>>55721423

Why is anyone still buying semiconductors, knowing full well that ambient temp superconductors are about to completely redefine how computers are built?

>>55721426
I bought BOIL sat 58.3. Will I make it?

I just bought BILI. Dont let me down Wang

TLT bros, are we kill?

the top is here lads, youtube told me its time to get out, unironically

>>55721486
johnny bravo trades stocks? who knew.

That piece of shit Hong Kong IPO $CTNT is finally making a move up

>>55721486
>It's over
Rape kitty

>>55721486
By top you mean generational bottom right?

Can someone spoonfeed my retarded ass on the difference between ambient temp semiconductors and the other one. Thx

>>55721486
>Predictable Seasonal Volatility is Unexpected!

>>55721471
Who will manufacture these superconductors? Current semiconductor fabs are best suited to do so they'd just update their manufacturing process...

>>55721471
>>55721505
This. The current fab people will partner with the south korean science team and it will start rolling out.

But pretty sure its not possible anyway and will be realized soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wrsZog8qXg

>>55721502
You know how trains have a conductor? These new trains drive themselves, no conductor.

>>55721498
dow jones is at a double top right now, unless a miracle happens this shit is going down.

>>55721502
Superconductors face no resistance, no heat is generated as a result and we don't have to bring the room to -273 degrees C to operate them. Infinite energy is upon us

>>55721502
Nobody knows but here's the same photo that keeps getting reposted, looks like it could probably run skyrim in 720p at least.

>>55721525
Its no miracle Jack, its Bidenomics.

>>55721472
Yeah that's breddy gud, one of my accounts is slightly higher.

>>55721535
Imagine the floating computers

>>55721505
>>55721516
I don't think you understand the impact this has on quantum computing. Perhaps TSM can adjust and build out new fab processes for these things, but the chip designs by NVDA, INTC, AMD, ARM etc have suddenly all become limited shelf-life assets.

>>55721472
I hope you saved some free capital in case it goes a good bit lower though. While I am reasonably certain one could probably "all in" right here and do great, I never forget that we're playing with THA WIDOWMAKER.

told you fags that you should just wait for the fully conductors instead of putting all your money on the inferior semi conductors. now china's going to eat our lunch and joe biden is going to shit himself on camera.

>>55721502
I think you're thinking about ambient temperature SUPERconductors? Despite the name similarity, they aren't really related to semiconductors at all in terms of practical application. Semiconductor materials allow you to control how much electricity is conducted through, so they can be used to build tiny switches in huge quantities that make up computer chips (which is why computer chips are generally referred to as "semiconductors").
Superconductors are materials that allow electricity to pass through with no resistance, meaning no energy loss. Until lately, it's only been possible with some materials when they're extremely cold, but apparently there's been some recent advances. The practical applications are different: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconductivity#Applications

Any raceists (people who own Ferrari ticker: RACE) ITT?

>VIX up
>DXY up
>30 year yield up 9bps
>tighter credit, weaker demand
>bad economic data
>stocks barely down, DJI is up
Who is buying right now? We're going into a deflationary recession with rising rates, the worst possible combination

>>55721486
this guy looks like he needs death by flaying in the salt pit

>>55721559
Can’t make anyone a widow if I’m not married

Stocks are going to close green today aren't they? With treasury yields surging higher every day and DXY coming back to life. Plus bad economic data and credit tightening. Holy shit I can't believe this retarded clown market

>>55721584
>deflationary recession
I'm sure the government is going to stop borrowing money into existence any day now

>>55721584
>Who is buying right now?
retards, buffoons and morons
take your pick

>>55721636
We're getting a deflationary recession even with the government spending insane amounts of money. Thats pretty scary

>>55721574
I used to be a raceist, but I gave up watching Formula one once Lewis Hamilton started getting too many podiums.

>>55721584
All megacorps loaded up on cheap credit during covid. It's the small lenders who will be decimated in the next 5-10 years, while the big dogs can leverage their well timed loans to buy up the scraps.

>>55721554
Trust me all of these companies most likely have theoretical designs for chips based on superconductors lol

>>55721584
dude they where telling people on cnbc to buy lehman brothers 48hrs before it collapsed and everything went to shit, the will send the normies to rektville here pretty shortly.

I like new threads because I get a new ID, and no one knows who I am. It's like a whole new identity. Do I choose to shitpost? Troll? Talk about the market? Spread FUD? Try to get action by spamming the stocks I want to go up? The possibilities are endless. WAGMI, anons. I hope you achieve whatever you desire in life :)

>>55721502
Imagine having a PC with no need for fans to cool it down because it doesn't generate heat.
That's what superconductors do.

>>55721471
>>55721502
I'd rather buy normal, full conductors.

>local government is full of hot single middle aged women
>start 'dating' them
>suddenly my life becomes 1000x easier
I am a slut.

>>55721502
Ambient temp superconductors will allow us to no longer need cooling in our PCs. This means big form factor shrinkage and cost savings, allowing all plebeians to afford to rent a personal computer capable of running windows 11.
Long valve (steam company)

>>55721663
Buy some calls new anon.

>>55721502
they conduct...superbly.

>>55721687
I just bought BOIL. How fucked am I?

>>55721653
They don't

what's happening to petrobras computer?

>>55721554
These companies all know how super conductors work and have a way to figure it out pretty quickly. Anyone in conductor industry and such was already familiar with this research for decades and know how it works or doesnt work.

>>55721612
>
Obigatory closing pump as yesterday.

just buy the dip, I can see TLT from my house.

>>55721697
As long as you don't need that money back quickly it'll be okay, boil is like the tmf play, currently at accumulation levels waiting for a wrench in the machine. UNG calls may have been cheaper depending on how much you threw in but i like boil. Just gonna be a long fucking wait.

>GOLD

BUDDY, LOOK AT THE YIELDS
BUDDY, LOOK AT THE DXY

>>55721663
I just want to buy the right investments so that I can find a white girl with a nice butt
I haven't found the right portfolio mix yet...
I'll keep searching and report back

>>55721724
In theory there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
Other companies out there are already practicing quantum computing technologies. Why gamble that your semis at 50x revenue will magically convert and maintain their lead?
I prefer to invest on what I see, not hopes and dreams.

>>55721602
yeah but you can still get financially assraped by that motherfucker!
>>55721697
should be fine any day now, it's a wild buckin' bronco.

>>55721584
passive investing
everyone has a 401k propping this shit market up with buys once or twice a month
it's Burry's everything bubble
surely this will end well
haha

>semis and superconductors are more or less the same thing
>normal PCs will be replaced by quantum computers
this is the level of knowledge of people in this board lmao

INTEREST IS UP
AND THE STOOKS MARKET'S DOWN
ONLY GET MUGGED
IF YOU GO DOWN TOWN

>>55721757
>ll magically convert and maintain their lead?
>I prefer to invest on what I see, not hopes and dreams.
Because the equipment to manufacture conductors is owned by 1 company and extremely expensive. Superconductors will be the same way. No one other than big wallets can make it work.

Inside bar on SOFI means it will go up from here.

>>55721794
The companies I listed do not manufacture, except intel. There are other largecap tech stocks making actual progress in quantum, like google.

>>55721778
Quantum AI superconductor enhanced super computers are going to download ultra porn at hyper speed and make us all quantum billionaires

how do I politely request for market makers to give my fucking money on a put? stock price went down over 2% today and my puts worth less than yesterday with 50+ days left of theta.

>>55721816
The IV on the security must have gone down.

>>55721412
Thinking of longing BUD for earnings. They've got so many other products i think that the "go woke go broke" crowd is too retarded to avoid them. Shitty earnings are priced in, a change of guidance isn't priced in. What do you think

Am i going to make it?

>t.europoor who went long on AMD

>>55721816
What's the delta queer? also iv crush

>>55721784
I'm moving the fuck out of the city, fren.
Because a country boy can survive.

Im in on SOFI when it dips below $10

>>55721816
degenerate gamblers get what they deserve
haha

>>55721841
good move, I have only ever passed through cities and saw all i needed to know those times.

>>55721708
How sure are you? I know someone who works for arm, I'll ask him.

Why yes I will still be running my fx 8350 with stock fan. Deal with it CHUDS.

>30 year yield up 10bps
>Dow -.01%

>>55721708
Okay I trust you. Your Uncle works at Nintendo

TOTAL
MUMU
BEHEEMING

>>55721827
Maybe, its doing a little rally from the daily bottom like it does most days.
>>55721839
.56
>>55721851
its not so much gambling but I do need to get out of it this week so as not to hold it through earnings.

NEW LOWS

>>55721902
its really not that bad
bobo needs a win though, so enjoy, I guess

>>55721911
>>55721902
Yields will pull back .001bps and stocks will surge 2%. The indices can barely go down even with parabolic moves in the treasury market

>>55721906
sell to close or buy to close are the easiest
manually exercise if ITM(usually requires calling the broker)

4600 got rejected so many times

>>55721889
2012 i7-3630QM here.

I both Bobo post and Mumu post depending on which way the market is going

My $454c/$456c spread position could blow up on me

>>55721931
closing it this week, the daily high as .51 for the contract I am not closing for .45 a contract after the stock rallied .2%

>they dont understand the market moves in cycles and that ayy and memecoductor news are a way to distract people from the interest rates and crippling debt

>>55721911
>S&P immediately rallies 5 handles

>>55721816
Sounds like someone got an IV dicking

>>55721906
which stock, date, strike?

>someone pointed out insane volume last thread
>35m shares vs 300k average
>zoom out
>it peaked extremely hard in 99/2000, 2007, which was just before a market crash
aaaaaa

>>55721971
kinda worried the big fish are unwind their position and taking profits.
>>55721984
MPW, Sep 15, 9p

Are there any better investments than a 5% bond, I need to make some real fucking money man, this 5% aint cutting it.

>>55721992
I just bought more

>>55722002
Its not about gains anon, its about protecting your capital. Mathematically a loss hurts more than a win helps. I'd rather avoid a 10% loss than have a 10% win

>>55722002
Just buy VTI and shut up.

>>55722002
you can scalp a quick buck off of YELL today
this is not financial advice

>>55721959
This image bothers me
People post it when they think Bobo should be happy (tears of joy) and unhappy (tears of sadness). It's too ambiguous... though the little gay smirk always makes me lean toward tears of joy.
Next time someone posts this image when the market goes up... make a new version and FIX THE FUCKING SMIRK

I've already came to terms that I may lose money today. Weird.

https://youtu.be/2-qKb4vgj7M

>tfw the forward guidance of your stock doesn't mention AI

>>55722045
>The terms “AI” or “artificial intelligence” have been uttered 827 times on 76 calls out of a total of 221 calls held in recent weeks, according to a Reuters analysis of transcripts. That equates to 3.7 mentions per call, more than double the 1.8 mentions per call at the same time last quarter.
Lol.

>>55722029
don't say I never did anything for you

>>55721755
At what price should I buy KOLD?

>>55722029
some retard is using it wrong and it's been aggravating me greatly. for months i established it as a happy image saying "it's our time now/soon". thank you for calling them out.

How much would you need to gain any serious income from options?

Like earning $40 for a $1700 covered call sounds like shit

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

>>55722044
pubes

>>55722076
our babies are out of our control once we send them out in the world

>>55722076
>ome retard is using it wrong
He probably couldnt tell the difference in his folder and picked the one he thought was correct.

>>55721412
Hey anons,

What are your thoughts on DIS? Will Bob Iger bring EPS + FCF back up to pre-plandemic level?

>>55722002
>You will hold ze 5% bond through the 4% inflation.
>You vill barely break even and question whether that was an appropriate use of capital
>You vill be financially bored

>>55722015
Oh for sure, it will probably rally to do retarded things, but make sure you take some profit on the way up

why the fuck is insurance so expensive?
>Pay $256 for 6 months coverage
>They jump it to $300 during covid
>some things happen, end up coverage lapsing
>Now being charged $462 for the same exact coverage
I hate jews.

>>55722113
no. disney adults are running out of money and regular folk don't want to watch their garbage

>>55722063
That depends on several factors, but I have a limit order set for a few shares at $55, and will buy more the higher it goes, and will sell it on the first decent BOIL dip after. THIS IS NOT THE TIME OF YEAR TO BIAS TOWARDS KOLD. I hold it as temporarily as possible and use it as a quick swing hedge against BOIL DIPPARINOS. One of the factors is you need to watch it and be ready to sell it when you get an opportunity. We are about to have the contract roll into the November one which might raise the floors and ceilings on all of this, and in fact should. PROCEED WITH CAUTION ACCORDINGLY.

>>55722029
No sorry, for me It works for both
Market starts crashing - tears of joy after fighting off hordes of mumus buying every single downtick
Market makes another all time high for the third time this month - his joy turns to tears as the market grinds at a 45 degree angle higher
>>55722076
it's me

>>55722122
>the higher it goes
Referring to BOIL.

>>55721816
>t. doesn't understand greeks and / or IV

Sad! Many such cases.

>>55722123
>his joy turns to tears as the market grinds at a 45 degree angle higher
smiling through the pain in other words

>Pltr in charge of going over 20$

So the market doesn't care about yields now or what?

>>55722150
Never did desu.

Bobos are unironically right about everything

>>55722079
>40 is of 2.3% of 1700
Sound safe, sexy, and appropriate. It's a level that will probably not get assigned and a safe amount of income to sit on long term.
For example, I have 90 shares of WMT through work. It seems to be having trouble closing past 160, so I thought it might be a good time to take some profit on it. I would move it to TFSA, buy back 100 shares in a month or so, and then start writing calls against it. They pay a 1.5% divvy, do maybe a 1-2% share buyback a year, have modest growth, and then I can expect a comfy 2-3% gain on top of that via options.

>>55722150
The algos were tweaked to interpret every line going up and to the right as good

>>55722147
>investing in the western version of Chinese social credit system toolkit

>>55722157
They are right, but the problem is the timing. Nobody can get the timing right, or the exact chain of events right. It's a fool's game. They'll be right eventually, as will the bulls.
If you're trading, trade the market in front of you instead of what you think the market should do.
If you're investing, think about the macro and long term.

>>55722116
Yeah I aint holding shit long term kek

O is at least 25% overvalued.

>>55722150
High yields are apparently bullish for stocks now. Just imagine how much everything will pump when mortgage rates hit 10%
I seriously can't believe the stock market could close green today with yields going parabolic + bad economic data

>>55721486
>youtube


well damn i guess it truly is over

>>55722193
>High yields are apparently bullish for stocks now. Hey zoom zoom the market climbed for a century with rates always above 8%. You are such a financial baby you cant imagine that companies can actually make money with rates above 8%. The markets fine retard.

>>55722183
Anon, if you're not already an established profitable trader, what you need to do is let winners run and cut losers. If you enter a position, say 200 shares, set a TP/SL at 1-2x ATR on it. Then set a trailing stop to breakeven and let it ride.

>>55722130
I can speak greek, but what does that have to do with anything?

>>55722193
Gotta love the glownigger market

>>55722170
>he doenst invest in orwellian nightmares
-100000 sociar cledit

FIRE ON THE MOUNTAIN RUN BOYS RUN
DEVIL'S IN THE HOUSE OF THE RISING SUN

Value stocks on fire rn fr fr
>not buying Yidsney

>>55722193
>bad economic data
It means we're closer to the pivot and hence the next 25% leg up in the indices

>>55722150
Nope.
>>55722193
Yes.
Rate hikes are bullish.
>>55722225
lol,
lmao even.

>>55722225
>we're closer to the pivot
So the market is pricing in lower yields while yields pump nonstop at the same time?

>>55722233
Rate hikes are the new pivot.

>>55722222
Witnessed. Value bros we are so back

I love calling up etrade to talk to morgan stanley wagies. I get to talk to white people and they are very polite.

>>55722220
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yeah man!

Primus poster needs some tommy the cat reactions.

mid day tea leaves roundup:
SPY
>baseline: neutral
>oscillator: neutral
>volume indicator: neutral
QQQ
>baseline: neutral
>oscillator: slight bearish
>volume indicator: neutral

>>55722245
Apparently. Indices are closing green today. Higher rates are officially bullish for risk assets

>>55722233
Unironically yes

>>55722202
>Hey zoom zoom the market climbed for a century with rates always above 8%

Yeah, but companies (and people) were used to those rates. We've come from a decade of QE funny money and zero interest rate policy.

>>55722261
hey bb!

>>55722264
Bobo doesn't get it.

>>55721486
When did Paul from tekken start giving out not financial advice.

>>55722267
Thats true, more debt just means more stuff going in and out.
>>55722280
Kek you can tell hes seething about his short. Cant understand how no one cares about something thats been happening for a year and a half now.

>>55722264
>Indices are closing green today
Maybe the dow, I don't think the others will

18 year old portfolio, 1100 gain on PLTR. Get in its going to 25 after earnings.

>>55721849
Today might be the only dip you're gonna get.

>every retard is bearish as fuck on bud
yeah I'm going long, always do the opposite of righteous money

SOXL and SOXS both positive wtf

>>55722267
All true, and inflation trended higher in that century so real rates were more compressed than they are now. Also didn't have the Fed trying to offload $4 trillion worth of MBS and treasuries over 4 years while at the same time Treasury is trying to refill its coffers by issuing an addl $1 trillion worth of debt while at the same time the Japanese are starting to sell some of their $1.1 trillion worth of treasury holdings now that they can actually earn a yield on their own sovereign bonds

>>55722308
saybabydoyawannalaydownwithme

>>55722310
Dead brand, it never offered different to the consumer than it's brand and now it's toxic to most people and easier to avoid.

>>55722308
Imagine the dumps that Amazon woman takes.

>>55722263
>oscillator: slight bearish
Upon closer inspection I am revising this reading to neutral

>>55722306
kick ass, BLESSED

>>55722264
Risk has been essentially eliminated since early 2009.
There have only been three corrective phases in almost 15 years.
It took a """"worldwide p(l)andemic"""" for the S&P 500 would correct a measly 35% and continue to x2 from the low lolololol.
There is no more risk.

>>55722306
Can you explain to me what PLTR actually does as a business? Or is this just a gamble?

>>55722308
You'd need a step ladder to mount her doggystyle.

>>55722326
>saybaby
ah yes, SAY bb! Man I haven't heard that since the 90s, had Sailing the Seas on cassette tape!

>>55722147
I got 290 shares i love PLTR its going to the moon

>>55722338
>There is no more risk.
Holy shit
The top is so much in

>>55722338
>QE started in 2008/9

Hmmm

>>55722338
QE/ZIRP was around for most of that time. Now we have high rates and QT and the biggest asset bubble ever

>>55722371
>QE/ZIRP was around for most of that time. Now we have high rates and QT and the biggest asset bubble ever
And you argue against price how exactly?

>>55722308
Also obligatory

>>55721412
I have sold my SOXL position
godspeed lads

Just made my first million
Ive never felt so empty.
I think I'm just going to quit my job and do some soul searching. I always thought Id party hard but at 30 I dont want to do coke anymore and slutty girls lost their appeal years ago. Im infertile as well. So no kids for me and the wife.
I guess I just want people to know that the grind is good but theres more to life than stacking.

>>55722327
you think the average retarded bud light drinker is smart enough to avoid all of their offerings? They probably just went back to natty light.

The moment I see room-temp IQ retards all going short on something like this is when I long. The decline in sales is basically already priced in because consumers have less to spend on luxuries. I'm doubtful troon backlash has really had enough of an impact to matter considering their other offerings. I might get burned and I'm ready to accept that but I think there's a pretty good chance it pumps either because clown world, jews, or just general fundamentals. I've had a pretty good track record of simply doing the opposite of what emotional money is doing

>>55722387
Because we have high rates and QT now instead of QE/ZIRP

>>55722397
Wait until you lose it
>t. 1.4mm -> 100k as of this moment
at least if you're here it probably means it wasn't all in crypto

>>55722341
I am not a programmer but pretty much AI that helps manage stuff, they have machine-assisted and human-driven data analysis help businesses streamline functions that would otherwise be done by a employee(that is paid and costs the company money). They are partners with many big brands and including the US government. they have more cash on hand than liabilities, so they won't fail. Al is going to be big, it will replace many jobs, but we can get very rich off of it. Image i posted is all of the brands they work with plus many branches of the military and intelligence agencies.

>>55722338
Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

>>55722387
Markets priced as if stocks only justify an 80 bps equity risk premium vs the 10 year, or as if they expect the 10 year yield to drop back to 2%. When the realization settles in that the long-term rate to use in perpetual valuation is 4%, maybe even 5%, it's going to be like a Ferrari hitting a brick wall

>>55722397
You need a good long term fulfilling hobby. I suggest woodworking. It's very satisfying.

>>55721464

>>55722371
We need to go bigger

>>55722404
>Because we have high rates and QT now instead of QE/ZIRP
Then why keep the indices rising?

>>55722411
Holy shit. AI.

>>55722415
>Markets priced as if stocks only justify an 80 bps equity risk premium vs the 10 year, or as if they expect the 10 year yield to drop back to 2%. When the realization settles in that the long-term rate to use in perpetual valuation is 4%, maybe even 5%, it's going to be like a Ferrari hitting a brick wall
Didn't read that.

>>55722434
Because interest rates have only just started going up, and the fed is only just starting to wind down its balance sheet, you gorilla.

>>55722397
my condolence on your semen
take profit, travel with your wife
buy lexus for morale

>>55722452
So what you're basically saying is picrelated...

>>55722404
>Because we have high rates and QT now instead of QE/ZIRP
Nobody cares. Tech companies produce so much money now they will carry the entire country upwards in growth. They dont need ZIRP or care now.

>>55721502
I’m gay
That’s all you need to know

>>55722411
Understood, but that's still only $1.9 bln annual revenue that they do even with all those clients. DDOG, SNOW, ORCL, all the major public clouds, and many other startups are getting into providing the same data analytic services that PLTR is.

So what's the proposition as to how PLTR is justified as a $40 bln company despite the competition? Let's say they do outcompete everyone and manage to grow bottomline at 30% annually the next 10 years (much faster than current 17% growth), and then 10% annually the next 10 years after that. They're still only making $15.7 bln in 20 years from now in that scenario. They'll also likely be continuing to dilute the hell out of the investor base for the foreseeable future, already have about 400mm addl shares currently that will result in 20% dilution from the current 2,000mm share count outstanding.

>>55722445
Get in its going to 25 after earnings, Its gotten like 4 more government contracts in last 3 months and earnings are on the 7th. 20.05 now ;)

>>55722452
>only just started going up,
Been a year and a half of this...although only just reach a real positive interest rate now. That i agree is true.

>bought PLTR moments before it pumped
Easy money

>>55722453
Ive been avoiding luxury goods maybe its time for something nice

>>55722462
>Tech companies produce so much money now
Maybe FAGMAN, otherwise no, most of them aren't even profitable and relied on ZIRP funny money.

>>55722397
This reminds me of the time I drank the last of the alcohol, and there was nothing left, just an empty bottle on the table.

Who the fuck are the retards buying Yellow? I mean, seriously?

>>55722467
>same data analytic services that PLTR is.
PLTR has locked contracts with the government. Thats the real value. They scooped up nearly all of them for data analytics. But thats also the shortfall of PLTR. They offer customized boutique solutions which means they cant get much business outside of customized contracts for certain objectives.
>>55722490
>most of them aren't even profitable
Ok and how much revenue are they making? Most have a ton outside of the meme hype stuff. The meme hype stuff is just recent ipos and risk on plays.

>>55722500
probably reddit

>>55722470
I make it a policy not to chase retard pumps. Good luck though. Given current market I wouldn't be surprised if PLTR pumps another 5x from here.

>>55722502
>Ok and how much revenue are they making?

Why does it matter, if they aren't profitable. Unless you buy into the "muh 100% per year growth forever!" meme.

>>55721757
Google has to buy parts from someone.

>>55722502
Regardless of if you think the company will be good in 2025, this is a good oppurtunity for now, buy it, collect 10-20% and dip. Personally im riding to $50

>DXY gains sizably
>DXY to other currencies gainz like crazy
>Crab day
Just what? I thought a strong dollar = weak stock market

>mention my strikes and expiry
>jews try and liquidate me
this semen slurping market is not for me

>>55722512
>Why does it matter, if they aren't profitable
Because most of the revenue is put back into growth and development. Soon as they turn it off their profit goes from very little to huge. Profit is easily manipulated on a balance sheet if the company is putting more into growth. For example Meta put 21 billion into AI meme world. They put that as a loss now. if they canceled the project it would have been 21 billion more profit.
>>55722520
I own some and never sold anyway. Always seemed promising. Was going to hold for 5-10 years and see.

>>55722502
Government contracts are fixed length service agreements, but ignoring that and assuming those agreements are instead perpetual. That's recurring revenue, which I agree is advantageous to have. But we're talking about less than $2 bln revenue for a company the market is worth $40 bln. Yes there is real value to the company and advantages to having contracts that provide recurring revenue but what I fail to see is how this justifies a $40 bln valuation

>>55722539
I say buy more before earnings.

>>55722548
>I fail to see is how this justifies a $40 bln valuation
well market cap isnt valuation really. If you go with a fundamental value investing you wouldnt arrive at the market cap.
>>55722567
Eh id prob buy more sofi here. I sold sofi for amazon and ive been bag holding amzn desu. i got 6k i can still add to my roth ira which i may dump into sofi.

>>55722572
What price do you think AMZN will be in 10 years

>>55722539
How much profit do you expect PLTR to generate in 5 years? 10 years? 20 years?

How much revenue do you expect PLTR to generate over those same timeframes?

Additionally, how are you accounting for the 19% pending share dilution and how have you accounted for the 3.4% annual dilution since 2021?

Lastly, what are your thoughts on management / other insiders always selling shares and never committing their own money to buy the stock in the open market?

>>55722572
Market cap is what it would cost to buy every share in the open market at the current price, giving you full ownership of the equity of the company. If what you're talking about is enterprise value then you're simply adjusting it for the net cash or net debt position to come out to what it would cost to buy the whole firm *net* of any cash or *net* of paying back all outstanding debt to have no other senior claims on the business

>spy ath eoy
Check ‘em

I have a bad feeling about AMD brothers

>>55722397
Perhaps I can convince you to donate $3k to the johnny fathands chakra improvement center. For that low price, I can change your outlook on life. And at $3k you won't even know the money is missing. What do you have to lose?

>>55722572
>>55722589
Elaborating on this:

PLTR has about $3 bln net cash, so the "real" valuation here is $39 bln if you bought the whole company for $42 bln today and got back the $3 bln net cash. Put another way, there's cash of $1.44 / share of PLTR ignoring dilution

I bought 77 shares AMSC @ $15.14.
I feel like $30 is pretty fair, a quick in and out before the week is out.
my wife suggests $45.
how high should I set my sell order?

>>55722603
oh we're checking them

>>55722622
Checked

>>55722341
Glows in the dark.

>>55722610
Kys avatarfag

>>55722610
i'll give you $3k if you film and upload yourself fucking your scoops doll

>>55722397
kick ass, BLESSED

>>55722639
Fuck you chud! You better apologize.
>>55722642
That's actually pretty tempting. I'm already pretty passionate about scoopsies.

TESLAAAAA

WHAT THE FUCK
MY MONEY

AMD 200 EOY

>>55722586
Amazon is the future.

Gen z is so terrified of human interaction that Amazon prime same day delivery will be the reason why it grows

>AMZN invests over $7 billion on AWS region in Israel

This shit looks sus as fuck, why have it in Israel?

>>55722308
Imagine her massive meaty soles and toes on your face, mmmhhmmm!

The Hong Kong gook IPO $CTNT is starting to moon!!!

>>55722659
it has to be an exact remake of this though, and we'll debut it as a short before movie night

>>55722331
I do...

>>55722193
They always have been bullish. It's when yields go back down is when the market follows suit.

>>55722674
>why have it in Israel?
Beautiful country

>>55722680
I don't own a bra though

>>55722396
QCOM reports tomorrow.
IDK if it will be good or bad, but there is that.

>>55722610
I would rather donate to the Lum fund. Mere $10 and you get spiritual satisfaction that rivals that of the gym pump. What do you say?

>>55722688
Wow, it took me a second to see it.

CTNT IPO MOONING

>>55722710
Lum is a spinster which is fine in the stock market but not fine if you're trying to find purpose and meaning in your life. Poem anon, and baggot are both customers of mine and I've done wonders for them.

can someone explain the M code pause to me ?
>M Volatility Trading Pause
>Trading has been paused in an Exchange-Listed >issue (Market Category Code = C)
looks to me they can just throw it whenever they want because there are no specifics listed like for example a T5 'a 10% or more price move in the security in a five-minute period'

moon mission

blanks anon got me thinking, have i nuked my swimmers by having a laptop on my crotch for hours every day for years?

Does PLTR have high volume today? It's ticker is snorting coke.

spy calls for tomorrow?

>>55722791
75.7mm shares today, 10% below what Yahoo Finance reports as avg volume at 83.7mm

>>55722397
why infertile

>>55722803
at 8:30 the treasury will release an update for how many new bonds they will be dumping on the market. There is some concerns that this might overwhelm some buyers.

>>55722308
>>55722388
Based

Ok guys enough! The new millionaire friend is giving his money to me so stop kissing his ass it's a waste of time. It's already been decided.

>>55722827
Stop being gay.

>>55722535
yields up too so watch for a dollar sell off. probably by Japan again.

>>55722814
I just dont produce sperm

>>55722827
maybe then you'd have enough fuck you power to take your scoopsies to eat at the landlord restaurant! did you go eat there today yet?

>>55722827
>Jewish
>Millionaire friends
Of course

>>55722836
I'm the straightest person in the general bar none
>>55722849
Not yet, I'm really hung over so a lamb wrap would hit the spot, but I have to get out of bed first.

>gaymd mooning before the earnings
ive held it for 7 years and this is a surefire sign it will tank after hours no matter what the report is

>arranging insurance for new car
>see my insurance broker has terrible reviews
>I only had to work with them once over a not at fault claim and they were adequate
>even so
>shop around
>ALL insurance brokers have terrible reviews and mine is average
okay i'll just stick with this one then
The indicators remain neutral. This has been the most sedentary market day in a while.

>>55722864
>I'm the straightest person in the general bar none
lol
lmao!

>>55722130
>ask my computer, a machine purpose built for mathematics, to do some math
>screen freezes, fans spin up
>smell of smoke fills room
>computer ded
imagine now putting that some sort of stress on your brain. do NOT listen to math burnouts. don't ever do math.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMhwddNQSWQ

I heard this is the unofficial yellow fever general of the board. Is it possible that anons here are that based?

>>55722898
no baggot

>>55722898
Only baggie

>>55722907
That's not baggie, and I'm not baggie either.

>>55722772
Not really an issue since they're being shot into a sock regsrdless

>>55722898
Asian girls are important for the market and the economy

>>55721447
>we did it
>we
No. (((They))) did it.

>>55722898
You make the call. Pic related is me and my girlfriend

I just shat myself all over my couch. What do I do?

LISA PLEASE I BEG YOU
JUST KEEP SAYING AI LATER

>>55722844
Are you a woman?

>>55722827
Weirdly defensive
Makes sense though
I would be too if my wife got wedgies from /smg/ users

>>55722842
>yields up
>dollar sell off

Can you walk me through this one? Stronger yields tend to help the related currency. Agree Japan might be selling dollars but that would have more to do with Ueda raising the yield cap limit on the Japanese 10 year from 0.5% to 1% rather than US yields rising, or so I would assume

USD basket spot in white, 2 year yield in blue

>-0.2%
seasonal volatility was a meme, wasnt it?
we wont get a -2%day for the next whole year i guess

>>55722898
No. The white man’s weakness is the Latina ass.

Your yellow fever shit is for the crypto niggers

>>55722929
You have to act quickly what stage are you in? Is it still contained within your underwear or have you breached the second layer?

Why are the markets so shit right now? Earnings that bad or that coup in Niger causing investors to freak out? I'm gonna long military stocks anyway.

>>55722925
Unless they got tits bigger than Hitomi Tanaka's, I don't care.

>>55722898
You heard wrong
We’re all gay

>>55722948
I was naked. It soaked through to the cushion.

>>55722943
>Latina
We dont want goblinas.

>>55720598
Alert me when it hits low 90s.

>>55722967
No you want Spanish.

Leave the Native American mix bitches on the street

>>55722963
Its so over

>>55722938
It's what happened about 3 weeks ago when the 10Y broke 4% again and what happened back in October. Big spike in yields followed by dollar selling afterwards. Maybe this yield spike is more driven by speculation around treasury issuing a bunch of debt tho. Still would watch out for dollar sell off leading to bigger stock gains if you're going short.

>>55722963
Sorry buddy, you are past the point of no return.

>>55722963
sounds like a really shitty situation

>>55722921
fuck you say, cunt?

>>55722982
the idea of course being that the rise in yields is due to a foreign bank selling treasuries or not buying any so they have cash to sell.

>>55722397
Congrats anon. Take some time to do some /trv/ing and /out/ing and clear your head a little.

>Im infertile as well. So no kids for me and the wife.
You can always adopt or go to a sperm bank. Any kid would love to be raised by a couple of young millionaires.

>>55722979
No, we want neither of those.

>>55723008
that's too tomboy

>>55722963
Absolutely fucked

>>55722397
I'll sell you some of my jizz for 50k. Top shelf stuff, buddy.

Japcoin lmfao

Higher???

>>55723040
Japan has been running a trade deficit for over a year now. About all you need to know to know they're fucked right now. Their financial system can't function that way.

>>55723045
>Japan has been running a trade deficit for over a year now.
We've been running one since the 70s kek

how the fuck can i profit from the superconductor meme?

>>55722929
>>55722963
>>>>>>soaked

>>55723061
Buy superconductor memes

>>55723016
>too tomboy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IotORLzZONE

>>55723061
AMSC
you're still early

>>55723060
We're also the main reserve currency. Japan can function on life support so long as they export enough to afford the things they need to import with dollars.

>>55722943

based, the MAMACITA

>AMD
I have a terrible feeling I'm about to get memed on by this meme stock once again

>>55722943
You wish.

So are these super conductors super fluids at higher temperatures?

my stop loss just held today at least so far. feels good.

if it got triggered i would have gotten triggered too.

>>55723040
Will this affect my Nintendo holdings?

>>55723103
up or down?

>>55723076
>AMSC
these guy have no relation to the recent breakthrough.
its a power distribution company...

>>55723129
please up
I can't take another dissapointment

>>55722963
Just flip the cushion over and you're gucci

>>55723142
if it stays above 117 all the way to close then i have a good feeling

Baking...

MAMACITA

>>55723155
Imagine the smell.

>>55723171

bro this is white mans weakness

The yoga pants, the yoga pants tear MAMACITA

FACE IN ASS

>>55723171
frijoles and cumin

>>55722929
>>55722963
This is why I come here. Now today wasn't worse than yesterday.

>>55722698
10 year yield scared me off
I could very much be early, but im not waiting for something to happen

>>55723152
Faggot

>>55723184
You need to stop creating lies about us

>>55723152
the fucking baker drowned in dough

>>55722453
looks like a hiunday, however you spell that shit

>>55723251
That's a Lexus, you buffoon.

i would bake but im banned from making threads for /tv/ related crimes

I would bake but I don't like getting made fun of for baking

>>55723264
Yeah but it looks like a shitty rice burner

>>55723264
looks like a typical asian piece of shit

>>55723306
might be the fact its a toyota

>>55723326
>>55723326
>>55723326>>55723326
>>55723326
>>55723326
NEW THREAD
>55723328
>55723306
Okay, true.

Fresh bred for power hour >>55723334

FUCKING BAKE GODDAMNIT!!!!

>>55723345
>>55723340
>>55723349
you fucking nigger autist faggots

clockwork

>>55723345
Get it together!

>>55723340
>>55723345

>>55723388
fucking kek

>>55723388
BASED
CHECKED
never enough /smg/s

>>55723388
levels of based not seen since /qa/

$MTCH
you are long on the decline of modern dating, right anons?

13,477 shares of PLTR at a ~$12 cost basis are finally paying off, PLTR will be at a 100b mcap in a year

>>55724347
$LOVE is over 106 institutional percent owned with high SI. 12 million share float.

>>55721448
I DCA'd into BPT so far it's looking good