/biz/ - Business & Finance

New tiny auction won, it's not much but still makes me happy!

I was rugged today in crypto trading....I fucking hate crypto so dam much. So much trickery, so much digital illusion which you can only see with your eyes and not feel. Its all a scam where everyone tries to make the other exit liquidity or to lure the fish in.

Zero value created to be honest and it solves absolutely nothing in comparison to what gold/silver solves...all it does is opens Pandora's box to CBDCs to enslave future generations.

>>55689280
The only good thing crypto ever did was to make people question the legitimacy of fiatbux, and to greatly undermind new generations' willingness to participate in society.
Seeing so many people getting sickeningly wealthy while doing zero work and just dumping on greater fools truly broke something in millenials/zoomies' mind. What values are you pushing as a society when the most rewarding careers are either being a digital scammer, early ponzi'er or an internet prostitute?

This is what happen in terminal judeocracy : the plebs mimicks the (((ones))) in charge and it become a clusterfuck. Now nobody want to work an honest job -which is seen (and pushed) as degrading- and everybody want to get off grid as fast as they can. Good luck maintaining a prosperous civilization out of this lmao.

just arrived today.

let's face it, the last few /pmg/s have been pretty gay
let's pick up the quality. more stack pics, less stupid shit

>>55689419
>the last few /pmg/s have been pretty gay
You posting pics for the 100th time with no text wont make it any better.

>>55689419
IQDELET is broken because the market isn't making any sense this week so there's less drama and shitposting

I bot one bajillion 1/4 oz coinz
now where is my FWTDHWATDOQA?

>>55689281
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces88796.html

>>55689280

>>55689786
>food and silver
Story time!
>see ice cream beer at local store a few weeks ago
>decide to buy it today and order a chicken and waffle pizza from local restaurant
>go to other coin shop near me that I haven't been to yet
>"what generic silver rounds do you have in stock?"
>"we've been sold out for months..."
>I know BS when I hear it
>go to my usual LCS
>they had Asahis in stock
>purchased two
>pick up pizza on way home
Weird. The other place is probably for money laundering. They had zero inventory on display, just laminated pictures.

>>55689909
Cool story bro

So you just have to buy a coin from the mint for $70, put it in a case with some numbers and a barcode and sell it for $300?

>>55690655
yeeeep. boomers, fools, and money...
i've seen unreasonably priced junk on sale 40xfv because it was shiny. nothing else, common dates, maybe some wear, but mint state and frosty? worth it!

>>55690655
getting a coin slabbed by the NGC is a whole thing, you need to be an NGC member, send it in to them, they inspect it, grade it, seal it, etc.
not that that set is worth $300. but it seems like you don't know what NGC is

>>55690655
They're being scalped by boomers like crazy, I wanted the reverse proof set and missed out. That's hardly what the "real market value" is, it's more like "what 100 assholes with a lot of cash decided it is"

>silver keeps getting smashed down
One day it'll stop, right bros?

>>55690830
it's not the smashing down you have to be worried about, its when it absolutely moons.

>>55690655
>0 reviews
It's not because it has a price tag of $300 that it's selling for $300.
Numismatic sections of online sellers are full of dusty old crap they will never sell.
And it's with their visibility of millions of click. A rando schmuk like you or me? You better be competitive on your prices or else you wont even exist for the algos, forget about selling, ppl wont even know you possess it in the first place.

That said, i know shitloads of amerimutts are completely retarded with their money, so i guess you can be lucky every once in a while. But that shit wouldn't fly over here. Each penny count.

>>55690830
Fuck you, you got me hyped for nothing.

>>55690830
wake me when it's $21

>>55689689
The labor theory of value will not stand rational scrutiny. I might spend years of sweat over my Star Trek Fan Fiction novels, but that does not make them worth anything at all.

>>55691086
yeah, same with bitcoin

>>55690830
I wish. I haven't bought any since it was comfortably below 20. I'd love to take another big scoop.

>>55691019
>>55691154
The new bottem is in, it look like at 24.36. The last bottem was 22.63. Will it every get back down to 22.63 probably not.

Big haul today bros

>>55691203
i dont think thing it's too much of a stretch to get it down to 22, let alone 20, which happened just a few months ago, and up to 27, also within a few months ago.
just wait for a sub $21 dip and splurge all into it, though it could still be dropped to $18 if we are to be so lucky.
will the rate hikes this week play with prices? i doubt it. if silver didnt explode during the great money giveaway then i think we are fine until the end of the next war.
>>55691218
damn anon, that is a huge haul.
how much gold is that all together?

>>55691218
Nice!

stupid fucking goyim

stop buying silver, it's worthless.

We keep tamping it and you keep buying, why??

Stop it.

Boring day.

>>55691320
>We keep tamping it and you keep buying, why??
'Cause you keep the prices low.
If you don't want us to buy, let the market free to do its own thing.

>>55691335
>Boring day.
Boring post. Again. And again. And again, etc...

>>55690655
I got two tubes of peace dollar rounds at $1.50 over spot a few days ago. Only difference in mine says copy under dollar.

>>55691218
Very nice. Keep up the good work fren.

>>55691250
Around 30 grams, just under an ounce. Not a crazy amount, keep in mind these coins are quite small

>>55691335
I suspect a lot of reregistered might not be for sale. At least not for sale at $25. I recall it going down to 28/29 million, but since that point the deliveries and withdraws have been sort of mirroring each other.

>>55691378
Will do

>>55691417
Dare I ask, what was the premium over spot for the Pacman silver? Were you an early buyer?

>>55691443
Got these in commienavia jan 2022
24.52 usd per krug in the tube
27.86 usd per pac in the tube
worth it for a full sealed tube imo

>>55691500
Can't argue that one bit. Very nice.

700€ for a tube of 1oz american silver eagles from 2021. Type 1

Should i buy or not?

>>55690169
I have a urge to take the bus in the winter to the sketchy place and take a few pics inside. Strange stuff.

>>55691344
Checked but it's not my fault nothing ever happens. I'm just providing a service to keep you updated.
>>55691396
Registered is exactly what's for sale. In fact, this month 80% of registered was "delivered", which means the owners changed. It might or might not be moved to eligible or out entirely.

>>55691616
is that a good price? does it include shipping and i imagine your country has VAT.

>>55691735
Its from a seller, dunno if shipping is included but should be 20€ max. VAT Free.

>>55691616
Its honestly not a bad price.

>>55690169
>tfw asahimaxxing

What's with /pmg/'s obsession with Asahi?

>>55691968
/pmg/ deserves a commission from Asahi for getting weebs into stacking.

Is the Fulton County case about the Exide contract is, or is it about some peripheral matter whose resolution wouldn't void the contract?

>>55692153
>>55691968
>>55690169
I will never buy another silver round as long as I live. I will only buy coins from sovereign mints backed by a government. Rounds are for larpers or poorfags with no taste

>>55692172
Nothing wrong with getting both, it's the meme coins you don't really want to stack.

>>55692193
All government backed coins will have greater numismatic value long term. That is not true of most rounds. Stacking rounds is a losers game.

>BUT BUT MUH PREMIUMS ARE MUH LOWER

Piss poor argument, get a fucking tube of government coints to get lower premium

>>55692206
>Only buy our government backed coins goy

>>55692206
I'd even pay more for Japanese folded 1000 times silver if they were available here.

Big gold day today.

>>55692264

>>55692206
nah fuck off
i have a healthy mix of both coins and rounds, not to mention bars.

>>55692145
>>55692153
it's just an aesthetic round. simple as

>>55692172
>another
what did you get?

>>55692300
Bars are even worse. You won't be trading silver bars with anyone if currency collapses. Bars are harder to authenticate and easy to counterfeit. American Silver Eagles, Canadian Maples and silver Brittanies will be the coins of choice if silver ever becomes a form of currency/trade item. (which is highly unlikely to ever happen)

>>55692317
I do own some Englehard rounds, only because of the numismatic value. Those are the only rounds I own. Everything else is government coins. All other rounds are just memes. People will laugh at you if you try to pass them off as money

>>55692320
>ASEs drop significantly in premiums
>maples, brit's, krugs, wieners now on par with eagles
>monument metals was selling under $30
>days later we meet roundfudanon
>he fomo'd and stacked eagles from LCS
>lost $10/coin since last year
damn sorry bud. maybe when spot price reaches $40 you can get your money back.

>>55692172
The purpose of metal is not needing to be backed by a government. An oz of silver’s value starts intrinsically with the value of the silver itself. The closer you can get to that price the better.

>>55692384
NTA but I dont expect a mad max apocolypse, just extreme turbulence, and bullion coins always trade better than rounds in my experience.
1: ASE
2: Tie between maples and kruggerands
3:Britannia's
the rest
>>55692466
its never really worked that way in reality. the Indians preferred roman gold over indian gold. US trade dollars were not well received during their mintage because of the amount minted, not their purity (which was in line with other trade currencies), and often trade at less than face value (which was up to $5) in comparison to the Morgan dollar which had less silver content.
make no mistake: when hard currency returns to the world stage it will be through government issued specie. rounds could be traded into silver dollars/pounds/euros/rubles though. in the 19th cent. the US mint would mint coins for you for free if you gave them the metal.

>>55689413
Nice flowers

>>55693013
nice, that looks real good in 10oz. how much did you pay for it?

Post your feels when you can finally financially justify buying ASEs again!

>>55693166
I'm happy for you fren.
But i'm the happiest imagining ASEanon sharting and crying himself to sleep.
We warned him over and over again, and he still acted like a cunt with his "you don't understand durrr". Now he gets what he fucking deserve.

>>55693166
It's nice to be able to buy your own fucking country's coins again

>>55693299
>>55693166
ase gang rise up

>>55693279
>"you don't understand durrr"
kek boomers can't help but booming. Krugs are my 2nd favorite, but God dam I got bored of 2 years of stacking skinny deers and Amish beard mans.
>>55693299
Checked and indeed.
>>55693383
Henlo Based Connecticut Fren.

>>55693299
>>55693481
what ended up breaking to bring the premium down on them? I had stopped checking them months ago.

>>55691019
You had 2 months ago to buy at 21 spot

>>55691250
Those gold coins are basically the size of a nickel

>>55693532
I am not sure, haven't looked into a real reason but if I had to guess as to what caused the premium crash I'd guess maybe something related to what Bix Wier has been saying about the US mint minting as little ASEs as possible (against the law) creating a Streisand type effect forcing the jews to go (((oy vey the goyim know better crash the premiummm to stop them from stacking))) lol lmao.. Also, maybe something to do with "sentiment in the market" aka boomers feelings are sad or something stupid like that. I really don't know but would appreciate a higher IQ Anon to break it down if possible.

>>55693626
>US mint minting as little ASEs as possible (against the law)
unfortunately the law doesnt require the mint to make any at all. only ", in qualities and quantities that the Secretary determines are sufficient to meet public demand"

>>55693677
>(((the Secretary determines)))
I am very tired of their tricks.

>>55693481
>kek boomers can't help but booming. Krugs are my 2nd favorite, but God dam I got bored of 2 years of stacking skinny deers and Amish beard mans.
Yeah kek.
Feel you about the amish boredom, it's truly awful than gub coins have such awful obverse for most. You have the choice between a pedolizard, a fat boer or a violin wtf..
At least the ASE looks good on both sides.
The other exception are the Noah's arks, who have comfy looks and comfy prices too, i can't advise them enough to you if you don't have any and want more governmental coins at decent price.

>>55693626
I figured it's because it's technically a dollar and there is fear about the dollar being challenged by BRICS. It's a dumb reason but when is the market not retarded?

>>55693626
Imho it's simply because the demand cooled down after the talmudvision and (((treasury))) claimed 24/7 everything was under control and there would be no more contagion in the banking system. Boomies, who were the only ones able to afford ASEs at those prices, believed the lies as always and calmed down, thus premiooms followed through.

>>55693777
>7pbtid
>trip 7s
We have our answer lads.
Luv me talmudvision when it helps me stack MOAR(:

How long until feds create a buy back program where they give you fake digital money for your rocks? They'll have to get audited eventually.

I've completed the set!

>>55693893
I think Covid and the backlash over lockdowns and the vax killed any appetite the public might have had for government programs. I truly don't think a govt. confiscation on the scale of 1933 can happen again. most people would refuse and bury their gold and silver and half the states would probably actively countermand the goverment a la florida and lockdowns.

Anyone have a recent podcast worth listening to about the "good" data coming out recently? I just listened to Schiff and I need more copium to clink my boomer rocks to.

Full stack

>>55694046
Cool stack. It's like the antithesis of generic.

>>55694046
Dats muh numismatic kang right here

>>55694032
not specifically related to that, but i assume some people here listen to liberty and finance since rafi and andy are sometimes featured as guests. they had michael pento on tonight. i haven't listened to the entire episode tonight, but i like what i've seen of him from other videos i've watched

>>55694046
same raider poster from the other night?

>>55694091
thanks for the rec. I'll check it out.

>>55694097
No

>>55694126
i need to step it up. i'm looking like a bitch only having one :(

>>55694146
Oh ducaton rider, that was possibly me. I posted them like a week ago I think.

>>55689419
>let's face it, the last few /pmg/s have been pretty gay
Last thread had 4 buffaloes as the OP image and there were plenty of good discussions.
What more do you want?

>>55693997
The IRS just ordered its agents to stop confronting taxpayers in their homes for safety reasons. Does anyone think they are going to try to go house to house and confiscate metals? Hahahahahaha! Will not happen. Almost every other asset is easier to confiscate.

>>55693997
There wasn't even confiscation in 33, just an appeal to the public to turn in the gold they had, and baring them from using it in commerce effectively making it worthless. As far as I'm aware the only proper confiscation that occurred as a result of the policy change was at banks; individuals holding gold weren't bothered, they were just forced to sit on it.

>>55693909
What is it a set of?

>>55694536
>The IRS just ordered its agents to stop confronting taxpayers in their homes for safety reasons.
Not exactly.
>"The IRS, bloodied by bad press, promised Monday to reverse course and stop sending officers to make surprise house calls to collect unpaid taxes from Americans."
*Surprise* house calls.
>"Instead, certain taxpayers will receive letters in the mail giving them the option to schedule a face-to-face meeting with an officer. "

crypto nerds will seethe

>>55694785
you're late...

>>55691335
Boring is good. The day it's not boring is the day the Great Reset kicks in.

>>55694797
A wizard is never late, anon. Nor is he early. A wizard arrives precisely when he means to.

>>55694785
this desu

>>55694785
People who still hold Crypto, let alone are currently buying into it for the first time baffle me. If you got rich off it good for you but holding it makes no sense.

>>55694859
no way dude. btc is gonna go to a million dollars cuz reasons

>>55694798
That is a terrible guide

>>55689172
In the future, we let coin flips decide all decisions.

What's the opinion on 1/2 oz gold coins? I prefer 1/4 if I'm buying fractional but I often find myself eyeing the 1/2 for the lower premiums.

>>55695489
I would say go for it because I prefer to buy double sovereigns due to their size, which are pretty much the same size as 1/2 oz gold coins.

>>55689172
>LMU edition
my fav

>>55692206
I will specifically charge more in a scenario where I’m being paid silver if someone whips out ASEs
Then I’ll beat them because they deserve it for stacking ASEs

>>55693166
Gee I wonder what happened to that threadshitter who would endlessly argue that ASE premiums will just endlessly rise. Any other day and he would always pop up the nanosecond anyone mentioned ASE.

>>55695355
Utterly stupid. That's like being cucked by a flying man in the sky who doesn't give 2 shits about what you do.

>>55693279
>i'm the happiest imagining ASEanon sharting and crying himself to sleep
>>55695868
>wonder what happened to that threadshitter who would endlessly argue that ASE premiums will just endlessly rise

He became less conspicuous after he had an autistic meltdown crying about MintAnon not picking up and making the failed Frensmark coin and the Boomercoin's production/shipping delays, he was going ~40+ PBTID sperging out about it for a week so when we realized the insufferable faggot whinging about Mintanon was the very same petulant condescending Eggnig/ASEtard he may have finally gotten the hint and fucked off.

Anyway I hear that when he saw how ASE premiums plummeted well below Scrapchad PG&G bullion premiums recently he was struck with a fatal case of shitter-shattering, he was last seen on his deathbed fondling his life-savings of 3 cull eagles while muttering something about people trading an ASE for a dozen eggs. RIP.

MFW when I successfully buy the dip

>>55696214

>>55696214
I hope you boughted 10 pounds / 10oz gold to make most redeem

>>55696214
>MFW when I successfully buy the dip
I did, very recently. I'm super satisfied.

>>55689909
Yeah there is a coin shop where I live that has no inventory on display and is always out of stock. So I believe you.

>>55693019
Little under 400 us dollars

Anyone else hold any first majestic?

>>55695355
Very interesting! humans have a tendency to vastly overestimate the amount of control they have over self and world. They rewrite personal and social history to make it seem like there was a plan that was implemented and predictable result manifested. Usually that's bullshit. Randomness rules most of the time. Beginning with the random circumstances of your birth - where, when, to whom etc.

As your life progresses and you look back, you will find that randomness was at the heart of most major turning points - jobs, partners, etc. We are desperate for a sense of stability and control in a life that is unfolding from the unknown moment by moment. And so we pretend.

If these little punks are getting hip to it and developing equanimity with randomness, they are on the way to deep insight.

>>55695355
based

LMU demonstrated how a gold currency tends to become international on its own. Same for the silver dollar in Asia and North America.

This is why the BRICS will ultimately have no choice but to issue a gold currency. It is the only way they can trust each other and gain the trust of the world.

>>55696667
It might be stupid of me as a burger but I typically buy LMUs and pesos
Pre-33 has hefty premiums I’m not willing to shell out for

>>55696840
Not stupid. LMUs are a convenient size, have historical interest, are attractive, and low premiums.

>>55696667
Based chicken coin collector.

>>55696891
I always why they seem less desirable, content, the historical aspect, and the designs are great.
I even bought a 5 ruble at a lcs recently and the edging is fantastic, it isn’t reeded it has a cool etching instead
I wonder if it’s something to do with muh mercan gold or something

>>55694589
Of course, this was announced a week after a revenuer on an unannounced door knocking got shot by a 63-year-old veteran with an M1 Garand in upstate NY.

>>55697251
Interesting. I didn't know the whole story. Thanks. M1 Garand holds the key to the hidden "boom" in Boomer.

>>55697039
Not going to lie, I love old American gold too.

>>55696230
Why didn't you bought Link instead?

>>55697326
link? you mean like a chain? those usually have heavy premiums

>>55697326
It's pretty simple my crypto nerd. I don't like counter party risk savings.

>>55697251
Interesting. A very similar incident happened in 1983.
Have you a link to this recent incident? I can't seem to find one.

>>55697461
Surface similarities aside I find it hilarious that a former tax hound killed an active one. Something poetic about it.

>>55667234
>>55667439
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHPFphlzwdQ
uh, silverhaterbros? this is not looking good..

Hyperinflation scares and excites me at the same time. In the event it occurs in the US, do you forsee large companies like Walmart for example accepting PMs as a form of payment? Would they begin to self bank with hard assets? Or would they only accept crypto? Is crypto a tool to tamp down the price of PMs in addition to paper traded PMs? Just thoughts.

>>55697625
Maybe he 's right, dunno. But I can't listen to that squeaky hysterical faggot to find out.

>>55697625
i knew it was bullshit the moment i heard it
nothin beats God-made silver

>>55697640
I think the oligarchs will create some sort of distraction, namely fostering extreme levels of violence in the street to enact martial law. I believe there will also be a carrot in that the government along with corporations may even try to implement a coordinated effort to create jobs and basically toss a bone to people. New social programs will be created that come along with the pretense of allowing for higher taxes. And some form of monetization and outright default will occur so as to ease the burden of the losses. All of this will be in an effort to maintain the body politic. I also think there will be competing currencies introduced that are not intricately linked to the debt-bomb to help offset the demand for precious metals.
I also think the real-world economic fallout will create a major hiccup that the world can recover and will continue trading again with MUCH higher commodity prices now that demand for the dollar is destroyed. America was a dream economy because we could run massive trade deficits without it contracting our economy. Our economy will implode because we import essentially $700BN more goods per year than we export. Historically trade balances are net zero. So our economy and all of the stupid and useless service and retail jobs will just evaporate very rapidly and with it goes all of the overextended commercial real estate that requires cheap imports to sell. As those topple so goes the service industry as people tighten their belts etc.
A well known solution to a glut of people is to kill them off with war, so expect plenty of culling of the population. Draconian leaders, especially in the west, would love nothing more than to kill off a revolutionary force in their midst. So expect a gayop to blame the woes on an outsider. Expect there to be a gameplan as everyone knows this is coming. Expect them to do everything they can to maintain political and economic control while they scramble to reestablish financial control.

>>55697741
basically the video from the scientists trying to show the meissner effect as proof of it being a superconductor was just a strong magnet and copper. the original video's description even says copper, but then they took it down and reuploaded it, removing copper from the description.

>>55697640
In the event of hyperinflation PM's are incredibly valuable, but you won't be able to use them at name brand stores. Walmart will accept cash, and only cash until cash dies, then they will accept whatever the new currency is. PM's are for interpersonal transactions, and potentially transactions with locally owned businesses.

>>55691378
>it's caturday
>OP pic doesn't include kitty
I weep

>>55697805
Thanks

>>55697978
All the big supermarkets (and big businesses as well) will do as daddy government tells them to do, otherwise they will threaten these national businesses with taking their business licence off them. This is why authoritarian governments prefer them over small businesses.

Finally hit 500oz silver with this purchase. What tier does that make me with 10oz of gold? Just gettin started tier?

>>55698071
Here's the list.

anyone have a kleine luther?

how do you fuckers even test if your coins are fake or not?

>>55697640
For face to face transactions you'll be good with a couple of silver dimes. If the internet keeps working Monero will probably be useful. I'm a fan because I'm a pirate and like black market parallel economies but I'm mostly into silver as life insurance.

Noob back from previous post.

Can someone point me to a general guide for buy/sell prices vs spot price? Or just tell me their experiences, if you sell some gold coins how much below the spot price is acceptable (removing any numismatic value variables)?
Hopefully I am asking the right question here, just trying to get a sense of what fair prices are when buying and selling. Thanks

Does anybody here have any experience with consigning items to auction houses?
Thanks in advance.

>>55698251
check the weight and diameter, buy from trusted sources, ping test, ice cube test, or you could call your coin shops and ask if they have a sigma verifier or buy one yourself. fakebullion.com has some images to check against.

some coins have built in security features. silver eagles have a missing reed, maples have radial lines and a micro engraving with the year, britannias have picrel

>>55698071
Big land, big sex, big family.
>>55698341
Never sell below spot, wtf. Sell privately on the interwebs.

>>55698496
>Gas chambers had wooden doors and glass windows
So do all carbon monoxide poisoning deaths. You don't need a room to be tightly sealed to kill someone with a gas.

what do you guys think, is geiger mint+irwinkiller combo enough to justify the 230 premium, or is this funkpop tier bullion and i should just get this conservative looking 1976 schilling instead

>>55698595
Why get gas and died when door wood?

>>55698595
what was the point of not just shooting the ones that didn't die the first time? seems odd. lackadaisical, really, for an active war

>>55698700
Bullets cost more money and materials than gas.

>>55698750
just like hit them in the head with the butt of a rifle a time or two. the hated was so deep they wouldn't allow line skips for the ones who made it through. GET TO THE BACK OF THE LINE JEW! maybe it was a morbid version of the celebrity death lottery. high count gas chamber jew lottery

>>55697640
>>55697760
>>55697978
Screenshotted and saved.

>>55698766
>just like hit them in the head with the butt of a rifle a time or two.
Whatever you say Jack, you're the master race.

>>55698775
feels good to have people tell you exactly what you want to hear, no? What you already believe?

what is an echo chamber in terms of cherry picking?

>>55698793
not much of a galaxybrain race answer

>>55698812
It isn't because talking about Jews is fucking boring, just like the constant talk about trannies is fucking boring. Can we get back to talking about precious metals, or are you just gonna shit up the thread forever.

>>55698341
anyone offering below spot is scamming you. spot is the baseline. you can look at prices online and sell online, or if you want convenience over price, call some coin shops and ask.

>>55698811
feel free to reply to them with your thoughts on the topic.

>>55698977
>feel free to reply to them with your thoughts on the topic.
why get banned for disagreeing with fools? I don't know what'll happen in SHTF but I'm pretty certain they don't know either.

>>55694549
iirc coronas we're re-minted with earlier dates on them to circumvent the '33 law to meet the criteria for antique collectible gold. so there was still the ability to stack back then.
i fucking hate FDR.

>>55698993
So you're angry because people are speculating?

>>55698993
why do you think you will get banned for disagreeing? thats not against the rules, we have had 60 pbtid spammers that get off scot free

>>55699003
what makes you think I'm angry?

pointing out that /pmg/ could be mistaken in reading their crystal ball is far from anger. Just obvious truth.

>>55699007
>we have had 60 pbtid spammers that get off scot free
he's your janny.
it's funny you guys never figured that out.

>>55698977
>>55698496
I don't even own anything yet. I was just thinking shops would try to buy under spot to make a margin because that is what they would be re-selling it for. I have no idea about any of this stuff but thanks for the info.

>>55699030
not sure about other areas but in CO, US, they buy at spot and make their margin selling.

where I live nobody buys below spot. That's silly. A scrapyard will pay spot, so everyone else does too.

>>55698870
again? retards amongus

>>55691086

Shit argument. You received no payment for your shitty fanfic. Whereas every technician, miner, engineer, etc who had a hand in the production of bullion was paid for their efforts. That value is literally and figuratively reflected in the Gold and Silver they produced.

>>55699065
you'd be amazed how often mining contractors and consultants don't get paid.

we actually figure it in the cost of doing business because we know a certain percentage of clients (Donald Trumps we call them) aren't going to pay us.

>>55699019
i dont really mind either way. just wondering why you worry about getting banned for disagreeing. i dont remember seeing that happen

>>55699030
shops sell above spot as 'premiums'. they sell for higher premiums than they buy. if you sell to them you lose some to all premiums for convenience. but you could check prices and sell somewhere like /r/pmsforsale with premiums attached

>>55699030
Shops buy over spot and sell even more over spot. At least silver. Gold is pretty much at spot +/-2%.

>>55699100
>i dont remember seeing that happen
you won't unless you check archives.

just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

/pmg/ will report the shit out of you for questioning them. You guys are pure propaganda, shills, brainwashing, a cult.

>>55699010
Just say what you want, they're not going to ban you. I'd like to hear some dissenting opinions that aren't just meme tier sperging.

>>55699048
>>55699100
>>55699103
Makes sense, appreciate all this.

>>55699112
i just leave my pc on the thread all day with 4chanx so i see deleted posts when i check later. from what i recall it was the political/ non-pm related posts that were getting banned recently, but that seems to have stopped

>>55699061
Live by the coin, die by the coin

>>55699115
>they're not going to ban you.
I've been banned hundreds of times from /pmg/ for speaking truth

even IQDELET for all his repetitive nonsense isn't wrong.

>>55699122
>that seems to have stopped
our janny might have got fired

Found these in my change jar.

>>55699127
Ok so you have nothing to say then.

>>55699136
already said it.

In hyperinflation people aren't going to be trading metals because they're too hard to verify.

People will probably be trading bullets, at extremely high velocities. You won't survive this trade for very long.

>>55699145
Ok, so you just disagree about the state of collapse. Not interesting or unique, and in fact it gets posted in here constantly so I'm not sure why you felt the need to clutch your pearls about getting banned.

Hyperinflation has occurred in industrialized nations who's citizens had easy access to firearms. The purge did not occur, undoubtedly there was violence, but not post apocalyptic ultra violence.

>>55699160
the very thing you think will make you rich is the reason nobody will trade metals

very simply, nobody has them. Nobody is going to be trading something ONLY YOU have.

Why would they do that? Why make you ultrarich just because you bought metals? Not gonna happen. People will trade almost anything other than metals because people have almost everything but metals. Bayliners, Hondas, gym equipment, wine, whatever a bunch of americans have is what's going to be valuable. They're not going to value something they don't have for the exact same reason you don't.

>>55699145
>and then the Mad Max reject bad guy raider squad takes all your silver
And then everybody clapped.

>>55698750
You are telling me it was cheaper to buy/manufacture, transport, build the infrastructure to pump in zyklon b, and provide safety equipment to soldiers to prevent accidental contact killing your own troops than it was to shoot prisoners in the head.

Guten Abend meine Damen und Herren

>>55699174
In a hyperinflation scenario, after things have calmed down and stabilized, there are two possibilities:

1. In this scenario, nobody wants boomer rocks. You need flour to bake bread, but you only have beans. The guy who has flour wants salt. You can't just shoot him and take his stuff because everyone has guns. So you spend your day trading beans for batteries for diesel for lumber for water and finally for salt, but at that point the guy who has flour has already gone home. You wasted your day, you still don't have flour, and there's no guarantee the guy with flour will want what you have tomorrow.

2. In this scenario, people aren't retarded and adopt a common medium of exchange: gold and silver. You trade some silver for some flour, and then go home and bake bread for the rest of the day.

>>55699174
imo in the event of hyperinflation where everyone is scared all it would take is some public figure or the media talking about commodity values. then they go, oh yeah, silver and gold! that actually did happen recently with the banks crashing, made prices go up for a bit because in panic people look to safety. and if they dont have any at all, all the more reason to trade for it

doesnt mean stackers being pre-hyperinflation trillionaires but more being able to afford what you could before, or if a new currency comes about, to transition over by trading metals for it

>>55699174
>People will barter and trade random crap
yeah and? You clearly don't understand the thesis behind stacking metals do you? It's not the prospect of a massive windfall during a time of chaos, its the storing of value for a time after the storm clears. The fact that precious metals are so undervalued and manipulated right now just adds to the appeal. Ironically the inflection point for the west falling into hyperinflation might just be BRICS and other nations dropping the dollar in favor of exchange via commodities(gold, silver, oil, grain, etc); be this through a shared currency or each nation backing their currency with commodities I can't say, but to anyone with eyes and ears it's clear where things are shifting.

Precious metals also provide an avenue for trade in such a situation despite your denial. Everyone knows gold is valuable, this attitude isn't going to change because of monetary turbulence. To what degree people will value it is up for speculation, but it obviously provides an easy and measurable means of trade as compared to I don't know trading motorcycles and bottles of wine?

>>55699216
conservatives are already prepped to shoot everyone in the US and hyperinflation hasn't even started. A breakdown in law and order has one (1) possible outcome in the US
>>55699245
>In this scenario, people aren't retarded and adopt a common medium of exchange: gold and silver.
requires everyone to
1. have gold and silver
2. agree not to shoot each other
3. have the equipment to verify gold and silver

2 of these are impossible, all 3 are unlikely.

>>55699258
>all it would take is some public figure or the media talking about commodity values
mass communication will be down
>>55699262
>The fact that precious metals are so undervalued and manipulated right now just adds to the appeal
this isn't a fact.

Got a little Vietnamese gold, definitely a souvenir as the prices over there were pretty high but a worthy purchase. Next time I'm going to try getting a few bars out, just for the scarcity

>>55699284
>mass communication will be down
what you are thinking of is a total end of the world scenario, not hyperinflation. mass communication is how people are controlled, thats one of the last things that would ever be given up.

>>55699307
>what you are thinking of is a total end of the world scenario, not hyperinflation.
these are the same things in a population where 3/4s of people own guns and well over half stack bullets for exactly this sort of thing.

even dems stack guns and ammo. Why?

>family member hands me a silver coin because i've recently started collecting
>1996 silver eagle, no visible wear, kept in its original sleeve all the time
good times

>>55699276
An incredibly common trope in media up until recent years has been our hero finds themselves in a desperate situation due to war, famine, zombies, pandemic, etc and they need food, water, medicine, fuel but they don't have any cash or cash has become worthless. So what does our hero do? They trade thier granfathers gold watch, they slip thier gold wedding band off their finger, our female lead hands over her great grandmother's golden necklace or earrings. It's a common trope because almost everyone does have gold and silver, and everyone knows that gold and silver are valuable, and almost everyone has gold and silver if not in the form of coins in the form of jewelry and because outside of crazy people a person would much rather trade thier wedding band for food and shelter than have a shoot out.

>>55698251
Gold and silver have been used as money all over the globe for three thousand years. The USD was semi-redeemable in gold until 1971. I don't understand why some folks act like holding gold and silver is some radical new idea. Did you imagine that in all that time nobody every thought about how to determine if it is fake?

>>55699338
truth

but once your wedding band is gone, what you got? Not gold or silver.

most americans have guns and bullets. Most americans don't have gold or silver
because if SHTF we plan on taking gold and silver from you. You and the Mormons.

>>55699347
fakery is far more advanced now than it was in 1971

boomer here, the alibaba killed your investment thesis

sorry.

>>55699320
right, but like the other anon said, in places that have gone through hyperinflation where they have access to weapons it doesnt turn into mad max. i guess i have a little more faith in people. sure loads of them own guns, but how many non diverse mass shootings do you see? of the over 300 million americans, theres practically nothing

>>55699357
if you dont believe the public would care that much about gold and silver, why would they murder for it?

>>55699065
So gold mined by slaves or stolen from indigenous tribes is worthless? Labor theory of value still fails.

>>55699375
>i guess i have a little more faith in people.
hang out with preppers a bit longer. You (we) are going to eat each other alive. Buncha fuckin schizos.
>why would they murder for it?
when everyone will murder for anything, what's the value of one thing in particular?

someone would kill you for your phone. Someone would kill you for your gold. So which is more valuable compared to your life if both will get you killed?

>>55699145
Don't you wonder how people "verified" gold and silver for the three thousand years they have been used as money?

>>55699390
>Don't you wonder how people "verified" gold and silver for the three thousand years they have been used as money?
nope, nobody back then had the tech to fake it reliably

you guys buy fake shit off alibaba all the time. You can't verify shit.

>>55699403
Most counterfeiters sand cast, which has been around for thousands of years. Google chop marks retard.

>>55699276
Currency has collapsed before. We are not speculating on outer space invasion. It is a known scenario. And guess what? Anytime any civilization that has known the use of money is deprived of their currency they very quickly find a replacement because barter is so terribly inefficient.

Even prisoners in camps improvise money. And gold and silver have essentially ALWAYS been used as money partly because they are EASY to verify.

>>55699368
If you can't distinguish gold from brass, you are going to be sucking dicks for a living no matter what happens to the economy.

>>55699389
its just posturing. even the french do more funny enough. barely any protests or riots even because everyones a lemming. i get youre just shitposting and trolling, but id hope anyone else lurking doesnt actually worry that much about it

>>55699425
>Most counterfeiters sand cast,
ali
baba
>>55699428
scrip is abouut a million times more likely than metal because for every person that has metal there's a few million that can write scrip
>they are EASY to verify.
yet every month we have some faggot in here with fake coins.

>>55699357
You have what you need to survive another day, and at that point you will do what every other person in history has done. Make yourself useful or die. That's it, you will learn to provide goods or services, rather that's from a man's strong back in the field or a women on her back on a mattress you will develop a skill you can trade for goods or for gold/silver to trade for goods. More Americans have gold and silver than guns and bullets. Especially high class liberal men and women. If they don't want to be working the fields or working the mattress they will trade, because they don't have the option of trading in violence for what they need to survive.

>>55699174
Why would people trade things for other things they already have?

>>55699403
Picrel. I will happily verify gold, silver, platinum, and pauladium for a very small fee. See? I already have a small business ready for you unlikely madmax scenario.

>>55699446
Cool! I'll start writing scrip now. I should have a gazillion BidenBucks by the time the economy crashes.

>>55699458
This is correct. Only people who don't understand the bare bones of economics think it is a zero sum game.

>>55699357
Either they have enough guns and ammo that trading for gold and silver is feasible or they don't, in which case they were poorfags and will get killed when they run out of ammo. Also, there is this thing called work that people can do to earn gold and silver.

>>55699485
Exactly, only the people that are retarded or playing at being retarded would argue killing the only man in town that makes moonshine is the best way to get a drink.

I bought these calipers from Aldi that were on sale for 7 euros, to test me coins. Only problem is I always get different readings, especially for the thickness (and yeah I'm measuring over the edge, not over the middle). I wonder if I just need more practice, or these aren't gud calipers. Supposedly the resolution is 0.01 mm, according to the instructions.

>>55699284
>this isn't a fact
Bruv Idk what to tell you, if you've looked at the evidence presented that essentially verifies the market manipulation, and price suppression orchestrated via the paper markets and come away unconvinced then nothing I say to you will change your mind. It is what it is, you can choose not to believe it, and perhaps you're correct, but I doubt it, to each his own I guess.

>>55699547
Since they are digital calipers, and I feel stupid saying this talking about calipers, but have you tried calibrating/zeroing them.

>>55699555
Not the person you were replying to desu, but I just wanna say that I'm sure boomers or more likely, the greatest generation ancientfags thought the same as you and others here, and many of them probably died holding bags of PM and some lucky anons are getting those from time to time.

This market manip. may or may not sort itself out in our lifetime. This is why I almost completely stack gold at the lowest premium even if its ugly and boring bars. Many of you know more about coins and think you can turn a profit in your lifetime which is great, but it's a gamble that Silver may or may not moon.

In either case, spending your money on PM is better than most goods.

>>55699644
Yeah, the instructions say to close them snuggly and press the zero button before taking any readings. Still I get strangely different results on the same coin when measuring the thickness. It also sometimes changes a little when taking several width readings of the same coin, but those are more consistent.
So I'm thinking maybe the instrument is defective at measuring small sizes, or maybe I'm just not using it right.

>>55695355
future gacha game players right there

>>55699517
Right. The problem with people is not so much that they are stupid, but that they are oblivious. Hard times tend to make people pay attention. And one of the things they attend to quickly is how to survive. Robbing people is almost never a good way. Doing something of value for others almost always is.

Oddly enough, thievery and violence are a better strategy in the supposedly civilized world we live in now than it is in a simplified world of economic challenge. Miscreants who are given a pass in this world would get the rope immediately in a society living closer to the edge.

If I go to a coin dealer to sell a 1oz Krugerrand, what price should I expect?

>>55699686
Could it be that the jaws are canting on the rim? If that is a problem, maybe get two pieces of sheet metal, make a sandwich with your coin in the middle, measure it, then measures the two sheet metal pieces and subtract.

>>55699654
>I'm sure boomers or more likely, the greatest generation ancientfags thought the same as you and others here, and many of them probably died holding bags of PM
some of us still post here and tell you that the markets aren't suppressed any more than any other markets are.

sure, yeah, if the internets die and telephones go away the shorting will stop and the prices will skyrocket. But then buyers and sellers can't find each other and in lots of places the prices will collapse because the product can't be found.

the entire market relies on the "suppression" and communications that make it possible. Without that, the prices are whatever the local warlord decides. Put communication back in place and the prices will immediately be "suppressed" again. Because what /pmg/ calls "suppression" is just normal trade.

>>55699686
Ok, that rules out that being the problem then, I would guess it may be defective, especially if you are taking measurements on the same coin, in the same location, and getting different readings.

did these ever get sent out? discovered I had ordered some but haven't arrived. the other coins they've done haven't been a scam.

>>55699773
they're coming, he's just slow because he's depressed (not joking, he posted that)

>>55699742
Your takes are shit anon.

>>55699738
Good idea! I tried to measure another small object (small screwdriver) and it consistently comes out around 3.51 mm, so maybe your method will work.
I'll try some other (newer) coins too. I was testing some old 1980's gold krugerrands, that maybe have some wear and aren't perfectly even.

>>55699797
cope! and seethe

>>55699760
I guess my technique is wrong because I'm a noob at this. I don't even have a precision scale yet. That's next on my list.

>>55699714
Jelly of those bars

>>55699742
I'm sure you know that investment banks have been found guilty of illegally manipulating metals markets. Any evidence of this in, say, beef or wheat or corn markets? If all markets are the same, as you say, there should be.

>>55699817
Alright you and him can go to your “local warlord” and “barter” your assholes for food and protection in the mad max future where everyone is running around with guns pillaging

>>55694046
I reccomend a nadir kilo if you like those bars. It has a wider shape than say your generic swiss kilo.

>>55699742
>boomer
opinion discarded, you've never lived in the real world, when we emerge back into it you'll be so calloused over by your baby mode life that you might just die upon the realization.

>>55699654
>may or may not sort itself out in our lifetime
It will, trust the plan..... JK fr though on jah it will sort itself out, the trajectory we've stumbled into almost assures that within my lifetime market manipulation will not only end, the very institutions that facilitate the charade will become defunct.

>>55699899
yeah, we're not talking about many decades at this point. things are quite unstable

>>55699938
The CBO projects that the interest on our debt will exceed the cost of Medicare by 2044 and social security by 2050.

>>55700003
The really interesting event is when interest on the debt exceeds all revenue. But I think the system will fail long before that.

its over

>>55699791
the mint is slow rolling the "whatever they call it when they do the 3D model pre production of a die"

>>55699714
spin bois

>>55689786
beautiful

>>55694046
great variety
did you pan for those good-looking flakes?

>>55699797
>Your takes are shit anon.
you can come work for me
>>55699873
shorts are universal
JPM's convictions are drops in a bucket
>>55699899
>your baby mode life
kek
I shit bigger than you

Recent kook acquisitions

>>55700178

my grandma just told me that my grandpa has in his will that every coin and metal he has will go directly to me. i used to gift him buffalo nickels for christmas and his birthday cause he's big into american indian memorabilia, but now i'm not sure if i should do that anymore cause ik it will just go to me in the end. any advice?

>>55700477
Your grandpa is still alive to receive your gifts.

>>55700477
why would that make you stop giving him gifts, weirdo

>>55700477
Keep it up. Let him know you still have the interest, that he's done the right thing in leaving it to you, that you two can still share an appreciation for something in particular.

Have you sold coins to apmex or somewhere else?
Whay was your experience?

I need to sell some shit to pay rent
These fucking jews are just going to pay me spot price right?

>>55700477
Think of it like investing in your own inheritance while also making your grandpa happy you sperg.

>>55699547
You got off-brand calipers that may not be precise or calibrated.
I know the brand I use as a machinist is Mitutoyo (amzn link to my personal one: https://www.amazon.com/Mitutoyo-505-742-Caliper-Range-Accuracy/dp/B0142HWYIW/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=calipers+mitutoyo&sr=8-6 ), though other brands are available.

>>55701074
given that it's the 29th, to get it in time you might need to hit up a trusted local shop.
mine typically buys a little above spot right now.

tiny jackpot frens!
I won an auction on a lot of old coins sold as scrap, but i nooticed few coins of interests in the pic, so i went in.
It was mostly usual british/belgian/french/.. junk, but i found some nuggets. Not in great shape for the most, but at that price i cant really complain. One is especially interesting, but i keep it for the end!

pic one, notice the "10 Pence bank token for Ireland of 1805" bottom left.

>>55701309
Third time i find a Romanian 1 Leu Carol 1 of 1873 in lots of random junk, sadly each time the front side have been casted so weakly the "1" is always vanishing. Is that why the coin in good condition is worth so much?

>>55701320
2x 30 Sols from 1792, with the revolutionary masonic calendar, called "le genie". Pretty sure the Genie in question is Lucifer. Here it's hard to tell, but it's an angel wearing an oil lamp over his forehead, writting the constitution (over the tables of laws?). And very "oddly", it's the first and only time they ever used a .666 purity...

>>55701338
flip side with Louis XVI, a year before they guillotined him and plunged France in the Terror.

Now the plat de resistance.
A silver token-money from 1657, Affranchis de Normandie.
What's really weird is the token have literally zero entries existing. And i think i dug pretty damn deep. I found a copper version (larger and heavier), but no mention anywhere of a silver one, even in the specialized catalogues...

>>55701352
The copper version is already quite rare, so i'm getting pretty hyped if i ended up finding something not registered yet.
ps : it's the city of Rouen being depicted.

>>55692238
The only thing better than asahi silver is windmill silver

>>55699547
Kind of late now, but... I don't trust digital measuring devices. Maybe that's why it was so cheap, too. Made in China perchance?

>>55701352
This is one of those coins you might need to talk about with a antique coin specialist, sometimes they have books that include information the normal internet doesn't have. Either way congratulations on obtaining pieces of history, something to pass down to future generations if you don't sell them.

>>55701442
Yes, i'll see if i can contact one over the internet.

Btw, if you have a spot for (very) old coins, you might like the auction i just won literally 30 seconds ago on ebay.

>>55701465
All but one from the reign of Charles III (1500s).
Sold as "9 old coins" kek.
Got it for an absurd price. I'm loving zoomettes throwing away their gramps' inheritance down the drain to offer themselves the equivalent of few days of face painting or a single meal at the local goyslop.

They should put Sacagawea on coins again. Way better than race swapped Liberty.

>>55701475
I'm getting extreme shitskin roastie fatigue just looking at what your mint produced for the past year.

I have $1500 to spend on gold. What do I make my first gold purchase?

>>55701698
I say save up until you can buy an oz.

>>55698595
jesus you're stupid. why not try to understand the actual claims first before trying to defend the hilarity of the mainstream narrative. you're just giving deniers ammo to shit all over your retarded analogy. you're just doing the standard amerimutt education based on feels examples. might as well just trot out the coyote/roadrunner-tier eye-witness testimonial stories and be done with it, it will give you the same shaky "evidence" you're trying to present

>>55701698
1/2 oz, 1/4 oz and the rest 1/10 oz Maple Leaf. Or safe some more and buy 1 oz Maple (not sure what it is in $, but it's roughly 1830€ now).
All of it 2023 for the security features.

The Maple is extremely easy and reliable to verify.

Maple can be replaced with any current and well known bullion.

>>55701474
Ah fuck that's so cool, wish it could've been me.

>>55701718
>>55701728

thanks frens, think i will save a little more for a 2023 maple.

>>55699223
he's a retard. almost none of them know the mainstream stories better than the deniers, enabling the deniers to easily BTFO elementary school logic of NPC-like holocaust believers "education" we were all forced to absorb before we could rationalize. once you are old enough to think critically and reexamine arguments for and against, it obvious it's just a blood libel against germans and essentially all goys.

in the real world i have had quite a bit of success by giving people the following test
>bring me as much evidence as you can find of the events of the current accepted holocaust narrative
>i will in turn bring you all evidence i have to the contrary
I usually don't even have to get to my half of the deal because they return to me full of emotion, mostly starting with anger and/or denial (as in denial they can't find more rock solid evidence) then morphing in to literal paranoia of thought crime.
forced holocaust education of children is not only blood libel, but it is emotional brainwashing/blackmail.

it is fucking evil

>>55701810
>i have had quite a bit of success
>emotion
>anger
>morphing
>paranoia
>thought crime
>forced holocaust
>blood libel
>brainwashing
You sound like you lost the plot.

>>55701724
>jesus you're stupid. why not try to understand the actual claims first before trying to defend the hilarity of the mainstream narrative. you're just giving deniers ammo to shit all over your retarded analogy.

You talk as if I have no experience with working with gas and the regulations that come with it. You also assume that I have never came across people who have lost loved ones through gas poisoning. Instead of taking narratives from 4chan, why don't you do a course in gas installation and get a real fucking education. Or if you want to do the conspiratard test, obstruct your chimney stack on your open hearth, close the door, turn on the fire and go to sleep. See if you wake up from that fucker.

>>55701810
Yes of course anon, it's always about this ethnic group I don't give a shit about, never about the subject of gassing a room which I have actual experience and knowledge in.

>>55701839
Did he though? Seems like the emotional charge of the holocaust argument is failing and facts are prevailing.

>>55698595
The one that really got me was that they supposedly cremated all the remains.
How much energy would that take? In natural gas, in coal, in old fashioned wood? In the middle of a fucking war where they opened new fronts at bad times just so they can procure energy? Then they poured all that energy into transporting supposedly millions from place to place, gassing them, then burning them to ash while vehicles ran out of fuel, and both soldiers and civilians starved and froze to death? If they had used wood, how much of the country would need to be deforested, and how much wood would need to be transported?
Utterly ridiculous. Terrible waste of energy and manpower if one wanted to do a genocide. Africans have repeatedly done better job with machetes.

>>55701728
I'm interested to know why you, as a European paying in Euros, are so adamant about Canadian PM's?

>>55701872
Carbon monoxide isn't zyklon b, a couple breathes of ZB and you are dead in less than five minutes. If they were filling the room with large enough concentrated quantities to kill dozens at a time a wooden door is a dumb idea if for no other reason than to protect your own troops from accidental contact. You wouldn't want this deadly gas just wafting around the camp. Besides that everyone and thier mother seemed to know they were going to a gas chamber, there are a dozen and one "first hand accounts" of people watching and waiting for thier turn in the gas chamber. You are telling me none of them had any survival instincts? None of them rushed that shitty wooden door in the face of certain death?
>ss4kh8

>>55701917
You're asking the wrong person for that information. You're better off asking someone who works at a crematorium.

>>55701810
>not only blood libel, but it is emotional brainwashing/blackmail.
It's for creating the foundation myth for a new age. With it they justified the endless wars in the Middle East, home of the lifeblood of modern civilization (petrol) in the 20th century and were able to deflect all claims to financial and social engineering by point back to it. That one event they were supposedly alone the victim of has made them immune to all criticisms, even from the ones who apparently saved them.

>>55701928
It's rhetorical. It's common knowledge how much energy and how much time is needed to reduce the average person to "ash" in a modern crematorium. The time it takes in a brickwork oven can't be any more efficient. There simply not enough energy, especially so since they were fighting a two-front war.
Also, the "official" numbers did not start at 6 million, and currently is not 6 million either. The 6 million is simply a significant number to them due to Gematria, for the creation of Israel.

>>55701926
I don't give a fuck about the narrative around the ordeal, I only care about setting the record straight in that webm that you can successfully gas a room with a poisonous substance with wooden doors and glass windows.

I'm fucking bored of this shit, it's as annoying as the tranny shit and needs to get the fuck out of /pmg/.

>>55701951
trannies and fags can hold pm, not all of us are frens, but we can still be friends in a nonfaggofied way, so calm the fuck down and chill till wagmi.

> Prior to Columbus's arrival in the Americas in 1492, the area boasted thriving indigenous populations totalling to more than 60 million people.

> Alittle over a century later, that number had dropped close to 6 million.

>European contact brought with it not only war and famine, but also diseases like smallpox that decimated local populations.

>More than 50 million indigenous people perished by 1600

>>55701926
Hydrogen cyanide is also extremely flammable. Apparently they used this gas in rooms with filament light bulbs and wooden doors. Also, why showers?
They could've easily done the British thing and fenced them in, worked them hard, and denied them food until they were too weak to resist to starving to death.

>>55701497
Just don't buy them. We know they are not selling well, just as the new AGEs and ASEs are not as popular as the old ones. I suspect it is part of the reason why junk silver have such a comparably high premium these days.
I do find it sad that Native American imagery and Native American culture is slowly being erased, however. The US will be much less without it, especially given the replacement they are trying to force on us.

>>55701951
Yea and you can shit with your pants on. You know what that makes you? A fucking moron with pants full of shit. The point of that webm isn't if you can or can't gas a room with a wooden door the point is it would be fucking stupid to do so. One thing the Germans are known for world wide is thier engineering and they wouldn't build a camp specifically for gassing people to death and then slap a wooden door on the God damn gas chamber.

>>55701985
I don't give a fuck about the narrative around Jews.

>>55701981
Thank you I completely forgot about the fact they didn't use non arcing/sparking lighting. Now if you were going to gas a chamber full of people to death I do see the need for a sprinkler system to help wash out all the piss, shit, etc but as you pointed out they didn't have a sprinkler system they had showers. So right on both points.

>>55701918
The Maple is just an example for a coin that is:

* Hard to fake and easy to verify
* Very well known
* Widely available
* Costs maybe 1 to 2 % over spot

The same can be said for Britannia, Philharmonic or Kangaroo.

Did anyone get their Inejiro Assassination coin? I have their address and I'm pretty annoyed the coin isn't here yet.

>>55702001
Yea I get that, and I'm agreeing with you in that you could fill a chamber with gas with a rickety wooden door on it. My point is, it would be stupid. It would leak like a sieve making it incredibly inefficient and also spread the gas around the camp, the wood would absorb the chemicals, it would be woefully easy to kick down especially by a large group of people facing in their minds certain death. So my point is every thing points to one of two conclusions, it either wasn't a chamber for gassing people or the Germans, some of the greatest scientists and engineers on the planet, the people who helped get us off our own planet and into space, built the world's shittiest gas chamber.

>>55701918
Also, it doesn't matter which currency i use to pay for gold.

>>55702041
>I'm agreeing with you in that you could fill a chamber with gas with a rickety wooden door on it. My point is, it would be stupid. It would leak like a sieve making it incredibly inefficient and also spread the gas around the camp,

Literally what all chimneys do when getting rid of fumes. Having a trace poisonous gas in the air doesn't mean it will do damage, the dilution reduces its effects. You've all worked around fires, and anytime you see a pale yellow flame is incomplete combustion producing carbon monoxide. Providing that carbon monoxide is diluted enough with the air before it reaches your lungs it won't have any affect. The applies to every gas otherwise everyone would be dead by now.

>>55702059
Chimneys work by directing gasses up amd away from people. Wooden doors don't. Dilution does lessen the effects so long as you arent in continous exposure to the gas which they would have been since they were living in the camp designed to gas thousands of people. So even in diluted amounts being exposed to it over and over every day the troops would have been constantly sick. It takes very little ZB to induce vomiting, fainting, etc.

>>55702059
All that said agree to disagree. I'm headed to bed and good deal on that Sov you snagged, keep stacking.

>>55702092
>Chimneys work by directing gasses up amd away from people. Wooden doors don't.
That's not what my answer was about.

>Dilution does lessen the effects so long as you arent in continous exposure to the gas

There's a huge atmosphere of air surrounding the planet, it doesn't take long, nor travel far before it reaches equilibrium with the atmosphere. You are right about duration, but lets be real here, the people who are dealing with the gas know this and will know it doesn't affect the staff on the camp site.

NEW THREAD

>>55702392

NEW NON FROGSHIT THREAD
>>55702665

>>55699742
>local warlord

>>55702669
KYS glownig

>>55702669
Fukken idiot.