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Further,
Unibot does not have any locked liquidity, promoting risk
Loot and Bolt both have liquidity locked, however Loot is not fully diluted and has emissions further making Bolt potentially the best risk/reward. However I'm still hung up on this whole 5% buy/sell tax.

While Unibot seems to have the best traction, the lack of locked liquidity and a contract that's not been renounced screams rug.

>>55609699
what platform do I use to buy this? I only have kraken cause I'm a crypto noob

>>55609807
They're all Uniswap as the entire point is being able to trade from a Telegram message. The core concept is pretty neat, given I'd assume eventually these Telegram actions and NLP results could be used to sort of direct dollars into coins creating essentially decentralized pump and dumps.
This is what I mean by being a little taken aback by this concept, as it seems people still don't really use Uniswap as much as they could, but there is an apparent market for trading within Telegram.

Wagiebot looks promising, or a rug i dno

>>55609699
5%? fuck that

>>55610949
It's the only one with 4% buy/sell, which is marginally better but still in the same suspicious realm.
So much matters as far as the name, and I think "WAGIEBOT" is kinda destined to fail as it doesn't sound serious at all.
I'm wondering if these kinds of projects could pull a serious multiple and if anyone has any meaningful input that'd be great.
>>55610961
Initially this is how I felt and I watched Unibot go from $10 to now $85, making a 10% break-even kind of meaningless in lieu of a 8-9x. My points above are that the 5% buy/sell may be integral to making the Telegram bot trading experience work, and as such I'm trying to figure out which one to buy into. A big piece of me screams Bolt, as mentioned, $2M market cap. Unibot seems already established/trending on Coingecko but at $80M.

>>55609842
>>55611285
Wagiebot allows you to leverage trade, has partnered with GMX. Bigger than you think.

I think these (referring to the other derivatives) won't hit Unibot levels, but should still pull multiples.

The Telegram shitcoining era is fucking huge. You can imagine the amount of normies/jeets betting .1 ETH or something on all these on-chain shitcoins. Its something that can happen unironically. We see this happening. plus paired with AI analytics bots most should be able to snipe lowcap coins without fear of being sandwiched in the future. It is unironically the first step to retail onboarding.

And yeah as for the wording "decentralized pumps and dumps", you are right.

>>55611929

>>55611929
This, wagiebot is gonna be #1, 7M mcap only
And its 10x faster than unibot. Only retards arent buying

>>55611285
Internet computer, pepe, doge, apecoin, pancake

>wagiebot isnt a serious name
Kill yourself concern fag

>>55611929
>has partnered with GMX
Found the information you're alluding to here
>https://twitter.com/0xWagieBot/status/1681808398977777666
I wouldn't say that's a partnership, it's an integration of a DeFi protocol. Interesting none the less, don't get me wrong.
>The Telegram shitcoining era is fucking huge.
I agree, it's a very interesting integration and it is one step closer to the idea of having "email addresses" for money as Vitalik recently commented on.
At this point I'm almost thinking to just buy a small bag of all of these and hope for the best.
>>55611975
>>55612000
I think you're missing the concept that me and the guy above are trying to push through. This shit has the potential to be similar to real blue-chip style coins like MKR, GMX, SNX, COMP. Also take note in your examples,
>Pepe
Mostly bagholders now. Not going back up. It's not. Let it go.
>Doge
Mostly bagholders now. Not going back up. It's not. Let it go.
>Apecoin
100% bagholders now. Not going back up. It's not. Let it go.
>Pancake
Literal dead chain.

Not debating the ability for this or really anything to pump (see the newest Harry Potter Inu) but I'm a bit beside myself with the possibility these Telegram bot projects could be serious contenders in the DeFi applications space.

>>55611929
Forgot to mention, WagieBot does not have a renounced contract, although their Twitter seems pretty solid as well as their product. Unrenounced contracts scare me.

Wtf WagieBot requires your private keys? kek

>>55612163
>WagieBot does not have a renounced contract
Case in point, which is an extremely important concept here. The divulgence of private keys via Telegram isn't that important of a detail, as it's an encrypted messaging service, but having your keys floating around with a bot, and on an open contract, creates two layers of risk abstraction.

whats the next one that hasn't pumped yet?

>>55612241
Actually, it's quite an interesting topic, but I would never input my private keys into a Telegram bot. That's something you learn from day one. So for me investing in this category is definitely out of the question. Once the first Normies get "hacked", this will fail miserably

>>55612279
That's ultimately what we're discussing here, but it seems there's really only a few that have the footings; BOLT, LOOT, UNIBOT, WagieBot.
>>55612317
I guess I glossed over the thesis here. It goes one of two ways, the product is secure and the key is never exposed OR it is. IF it is not, then this could be a powerful trading tool that takes us one step closer to everday everyman usecase for crypto, which is huge.
That said, you don't have to use the Telegram bots to profit off their tokens. You can buy MKR and not use DAI. You can buy GMX and not even have it on the network (centralized exchange purchase).

>>55612385
Big rug is likely to happen on one of these projects

Counterpoint: generate new wallet from these bots and use it as hot wallet. Put in small amount of money to punt with, which is appropriate for shitcoiners.

>>55612453
>Big rug is likely to happen on one of these projects
Of course, and that's why I'm leaning on BOLT/LOOT given their contracts are renounced.
>generate new wallet from these bots and use it as hot wallet
That would be an absolute no-brainer however say you put $100 in and turn it into $10,000. Do you keep creating hots and end up with 1000 accounts?
If successful, your risky hot wallet denies the initial purpose in the first place.
As I said above, IF these platforms can prove their security, they can be massively lucrative.

>>55612385
Of course I can also profit from the token without using the product, but the risk associated with private keys doesn't convince me. I don't believe that many Normies would use it either. That's why I choose not to invest. Also Telegram itself doesn't have the best reputation, given all the illegal trading that happens on the platform.

Could a kind anon spoon feed us with the contracts? I’m phoneposting from work so they’re hard to find.

>>55612588
Hey if you don't believe it has a usecase and these projects are just a shades of a similar scam then power to you.
>Also Telegram itself doesn't have the best reputation
Same with crypto itself.
Telegram can't be censored, and neither can DeFi primitives. Hence why this might be a match made in heaven.

>>55612681
BoltBot
0x36948a6809be82d3ba8de9f2be626101e2c9e473
LootBot
0xb478c6245e3d85d6ec3486b62ea872128d562541
UniBot
0xf819d9cb1c2a819fd991781a822de3ca8607c3c9
WagieBot
0xd2c869382c7ac9f87ff73548d029d67c0f9dee31

It is also worth mentioning these are all already on Coingecko.