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it's not worth it living in america kek

>>55584679
if you're okay with cold weather, small talk, methheads, and not much to do, then sure its fine

living in germanistan, i consider north/south dakota as the only options in america
>love snow
>loads of (relatively) cheap space
>not too many people
>can neet it out with my passive income

>>55584719
oh and
>SD largest group of immigrants was germans
>literally "no data" on jews, none
heh

>>55584679
It's funny because I live in one of the red areas and, after having visited the bluegreen spots, I get it now. When you live in bluegreen, there's fucking

NOTHING

to do. About 90% of the activities are some variation of "Go into the wilderness and walk around." There are barely any services either. The town has one dentist and he sucks. There is only one grocery and it ran out of beer. You have to drive 10 hours to visit an MRI machine. The most interesting thing that happened in this town is one time Jim across the street saw a blimp. "Oh wow it's really cheap to live here." Yeah well you get what you pay for.

>>55584754
>please entertain me cause I'm boring

>>55584679
FL needs to be red. shit is getting rediculous here. stop fucking moving here we are full.

>>55584754
A lot of people these days spend 40% of the day behind the remote work screen followed by 30% behind the 'happy' screen. all of that can be done in south dakota.

>>55584754
>AAAAAARGH i need the hustle and bustle of the big city and a daily dose of cultural nigger enrichment in my life while spending all my money on useless junk that i can tiktok about
you are the problem
stay in your monkey cage
nobody wants you shitting up the countryside

>>55584679
>>55584883
>>55585171
>>55585174
Like this OP

>>55584679
Everyone that can jump ship, is jumping ship out of America. You're asking the wrong question.
My question is what to do with traitors.

>>55584754
Actually, there's plenty to do in major metroplexes. It's just that it all relates to
SPEND MONEY
CONSUME
GET FAT
SPEND MONEY AND FUCK OFF

It seems more difficult than necessary to find some semblance of community in the US.

>>55584754
>doesn't like the wilderness
>doesn't like walking
>needs his teeth fixed
>needs his beer
>needs an MRI because braindamaged
Checks out.

>>55584679
I think it is more profitable to live in any other latam country than here, to get paid in dollars there is basically to be rich, if I wait long enough even SORA could serve as a second salary in Argentina

>>55584754
>I just LOVE the hustle and bustle of a big city!

Of the blue states listed there, I would say the ideal is the nicer parts of Kentucky (like around Lexington)

Beautiful terrain, moderate climate, enough of an economy and lots of white people

>>55584679
It's worth it to live wherever you can while you're young to save/invest money.
I moved for jobs every few years between 2010-2020, and my career is significantly better than people I went to college with.
Now I have a significant chunk invested and can easily afford a house in the expensive state I moved from.

>>55584679
fuck off, we're full

>>55584679
Used to be that the southern US had the best bang for your buck but too many former blue state residents have moved in.

>>55586528
these graphics are misleading because they're skewed by large metropolises
living in Sioux Falls, SD is roughly the same as living in Lubbock, TX, since they're approximately the same in terms of development, taxation and population

>>55584754
this will really stir the chudoid larpers up

>>55586561
you're the one responding to a larper

>>55586473
>>55584883
>>55585613
>just live in the middle of no where and bleed out to death before the life flight arrives after you cut yourself goy!

>>55586549
But if you have a state with large metroplexes they'll eventually vote to ruin your state. It's why Illinois is beyond saving even if there are nice rural areas, the votes and career politicians are not interested in anything but the cities because there is greater voter return by catering your entire state government to cities.

>>55586610
As someone from southern illinois who drove on terrible roads while niggers in Chicago jump turnstiles and collect checks, this checks out.

>>55586671

Same thing is happening in Georgia. Atlanta politics are going to override and dominate the state. The founding fathers knew of this effect which is why the government has population/regional balance rather than being a straight population vote, otherwise this entire country would basically be "what does LA/NYC/Chicago want this year."

>>55584695
How much time have you spent in South Dakota?

>>55586610
doesn't happen in florida. Miami is based.

>>55586683
Seems like there are more niggers there, though. That's definitely worse.

If you’re in or near the Black Hills it’s not too terrible, there are plenty of outdoor activities in the area and Rapid City is big enough to have what you need. It feels kind of desolate most of the year so you need to be OK with that.

>>55584754
you probably want to live within at least an hour of a 200k+ city for shit like that

>>55585212
That’s in PA not South Dakota

>>55584754
You need a hobby

>>55586477
I have been looking specifically at Lexington Kentucky.
I feel like it’s going to go to shit as everyone else gets the same idea.
It reminds me of New England from the pictures but I’ve never been. Have you?

>>55584938
This. Miami has the highest rate of inflation than anywhere else in America. Shit here is so fucking retarded right now.

>>55587094
whats expensive in miami aside from rent?

>>55586572
>you
no u goi
>gets stabbed for being a braindead retard and an annoying faggot
Not going to happen to me. I'm respectful and alert.

>>55587079

It isn't really a "hot state" yet. At any rate that's inevitable after you move to a good area. I have family around there, they have a pleasant horse racing/farm aesthetic, and the city is big but not too big. Obviously affordable and Kentucky culture is traditional and friendly, a dying breed in this country.

>>55586961
It's what every flyover looks like

>>55584719
>>55584745
If you have plans of somehow moving to SD, you better do it soon because loads of people fleeing Minnesota are heading west and bringing their cancer politics with them.

>>55584754
Tell me more about the blimp

I want to live in bum fuck nowhere in the US.
I give no fucks about entertainment or how boring the culture is there. Obviously no extremes like deathly heat or 6 hours to the nearest store.
Where is best for me?

>>55584754
Carefully crafted. . . Excellently executed. . .
Now this is some top quality b8

>>55587162
Are there any particular parts of Lexington KY or KY in general that one should seek out or avoid?

>>55584679
No, I need to live near freshwater lakes because I fucking love that lake life. There is nothing better than life on the lake.

>>55587455
Yes there is: being on the ocean

>>55584754
based blimp appreciator jim

>>55586561
I'll admit I genuinely just posted that to see how many people would sperg over it. Why? I don't know, just had a case of the fuckarounds.

>>55587466
>saltwater
No thanks

>>55587527
>stagnant brain virus water
at least the salt water is good for you

>>55587327
whats the current price for a green card?
technically i just need to get citizenship so i can buy land which, last i checked, was piss cheap in SD cuz its in bumfuck nowhere and I have a business partner who can forward me a full prebuilt wood home from poland for like 40k + shipping which only needs 2 days of assembly

>>55587527
>>55587597
you both suck
t. river with waterfall gigachad

>>55587597
That only happens in places where the lakes don’t freeze aka where non-whites shit in the water.

>>55587079
>>55587162
>>55587439
Lexington is good. avoid Louisville.

>>55584679
FUCK OFF we are FULL

>>55587106
The women.

>>55587612
EB5 visa, over a million and years wait time or rural tea eb5 for 800,000. Once you are there on a green card if the eb5 program fails you go home with nothing, if not its 5 years holding it then you can apply to become a citizen. Or go e-2 visa and live there within months, then save up for eb5 which will get processed quicker because you are already there.

>>55584679
Full. stay out

Tough life here in the States. You either spend a lot of money to be near amenities but this + crime: https://www.tiktok.com/@kylegordonisgreat/video/7256818399676861742

Or, you move to the middle of nowhere with shitty internet, hours of driving to accomplish basic chores and swap all the EATING and DRINKING for OUTDOOR TOYS that rust in a garage that has an RV or trailer sitting in front of it that got used that one year you were really into camping.

Oh, you just swap drugs depending on where you are. I mean, crackheads on the East Coast are annoying, but Methheads are next level ghoul-ish.

>>55587377
bump

>>55588602
damn thats rough
guess i'll have to marry an 80 year old goblina or something

>>55588905
You get citizenship as soon as you marry (pending you do the correct papers) and retain it if you divorce.

>>55584679
Noem should run for prez instrad of Burgum.

>>55588905
Search e-2 visa, no green card but with a good business plan youll get in for less than 150k

>>55587094
>>55587106

Miami is worth the price to not live in boring flyover walmart world.

>>55584679
I went from LA to Honolulu and got a COL decrease.
>smug wojack mask hiding tears dot png

>>55589538
Yeah bro I just love paying $5,000/mo to live around niggers and ghetto latinx thots with ass implants.

>>55584679
>Legend 1-10, 11-30, 31-51
The legend doesn't help explain anything.

>>55589538
Lmao clueless coastie

>>55586760
Black Hills is one big tourist trap. Also the forest is shit. Private property around every corner and it’s only increasing.

>live in central florida
>have fucking had it with spics and niggers
>find out girlfriend is pregnant
>absolutely not raising a kid in this fucking state
>look for other states to move to
>girlfriend and I just broke up
>my plans to get the fuck out are now in the drain

>>55588484
>>55588484
How can you be full? There's less than 1 million of you, on more land than some entire countries.

>>55584679
notice how any state that isn't yellow or red is a impoverished shithole. the truth is taxes are higher in those states because quality of life is higher. you get what you pay for.

>>55584695
Your terms are acceptable (as long as there's no nigra) on my street or in my county's tax budget.

>>55584754
Most people who answered to you don’t like other humans. So they don’t care about their neighbours and whether they are educated or not metheads. Try dating there.

Their only interactions are just answering angrily to posts like yours. So yeah, they could do the same in a LCOL area.

>t. Sex-haver

>>55587377
>>55586483
if someone's not rich, I dont see why they wouldn't just live somewhere in bumfuck nowhere assuming low COL, good internet, near a Walmart and ideally decent weather/outdoor activities. I'm doing this and just travel somewhere when I feel like experiencing something new. I've also lived in expensive cities and hated how much it translated in more wageslaving just because I wanted to be close to more normies/thots which made me spend absurd money on top of the absurd rent. It's retarded unless you lucked out with a rich family or arrive as a "Made man" set for life and don't wage slave anyhow

>>55584679
Virginia is probably the best ratio of things-to-do to cost of living

>>55592125
Okay glownigger.

>>55592125
>>55592192
Only Feds move to Virginia. Also it's decently expensive. Should be orange on the map

>>55590204
>hate spics and niggers
>is about to have a child with a woman he isn't even in a relationship with
brilliant

>>55592192
Cope

>>55590204
Look at me
Look at me
You are the spics and niggers now

>>55584754
This many anons seething because your right kek
Now try living in a yellow spot and watch your eyes peel backwards

>>55584679
Cool to live near Mt. Rushmore and take visits.

>>55584754
based "fuck off we're full" poster

>>55584679
>VA trash tier COL in a sea of low cost.
Fuck

>>55584679
If you're an American born white man I see no reason why you shouldn't use your birthright to move to one of these comfier rural areas. Just don't be a fag or act like a Californian and you'll be fine

Every good thing has a price, and every discount has a reason.

>>55592334
where do you recommend?

t. american born white man, work from home

>>55592372
we're basically trying to arbitrage the market here. You overpay for sure in some places and you underpay in others for what you get.

>>55592393
San Francisco is pretty underrated

>>55592381
Montana

>>55592431
lol wut
I would unironically say it's the worst bang for your buck place possible unless you work for FAANG

>>55584754
BARCADE

>>55592444
buy when it gets really cheap there. The city is in a far too valuable area for it to pull a Detroit and permanently die. Things will stabilize within a decade or two and prices will return

>>55592436
you look to be right. I'm in Arizona, and it's a pretty similar cost of living. Not quite as beautiful unless you're in Sedona
>>55592477
you're right. There's so much money on the coasts.

>>55592477
In other words, you'll be the people that bought Brooklyn/Bronx apartments for pennies in the 1960-80's when people thought the city was going to become an empty graveyard. Those people own multi million dollar properties now.

>>55584745
That's cool. You're going to reunite with your German buds

>>55592486
If you're looking for anything affordable anywhere near Cracker Lake in Glacier; you're gonna be living on an Indian reservation in the high plains.

>>55592541
Pic not related, that's Uncle Ted's cabin.

>>55592251
Sometimes, shit just doesn’t work out. Besides, I ain’t leaving my kid fatherless. Hence, why I can’t leave this shithole of a state.

Consider:
>you are poor
You will make no money in the Dakotas. Very few employment opportunities.
>you made it
The whole point of making it is not giving a shit about CoL

>>55584679
Why would you do South Dakota instead of Missouri, Oklahoma, or Kentucky? I can see why someone would want to avoid Ohio or West Virginia with lack of industry/jobs plus environmental issues.

And I get why people would avoid Arkansas and Louisiana due to high percentage of heavily melanated individuals.

But why not MO or OK? In both states you have low cost of living, good demographics, and plenty of lakes and outdoor recreation. I guess in South Dakota you have Mt. Rushmore and the black hills, which is beautiful, but 90%+ of people in SD live on the eastern border. Plus MO has legal weed, and Oklahoma has very easy medical system. Then again, in South Dakota you do have legal weed on Indian reservations, but if you get caught off the rez I'm sure the cops would fuck you

All of you faggots talking about visas are retarded goyim. Do you nigger-brains not realize there are 120mm people living in the jewnited kikes of shitmerica who either came her illegally themselves, we're born of illegals, or are grandchildren of shit skinned illegals? Do you not realize the kikes made it in, then closed immigration to Europeans after ww1? You dumb fucks who want to enter should just go to shitxico and cross illegally like the mongrel hoards

>>55586528
winter. rarely do i meet someone here (wisconsin) that doesn't hate winter. I see more Florida license plates than i do Illinois or Iowa.

>>55590202
Those fucking wall drugs signs start 300 miles away.

>>55584745
Oh that sounds nice anon.

>>55593182
I love Oklahoma but I will admit that many areas of it are trashy and run down, to such an extent that you might find it shocking if you aren't from here. Also most people live small-town lifestyles and have known each other since they were children, so as an outsider you'll never really integrate and foster that same level of community that they have with each other.
All that being said, if you can manage to secure a high paying job here you can live like a king.

>>55593182
I love Oklahoma but I will admit that many areas of it are trashy and run down, to such an extent that you might find it shocking if you aren't from here. Also most people live small-town lifestyles and have known each other since they were children, so as an outsider you'll never really integrate and foster that same level of community that they have with each other.
Out here it isn't "I'm Person X and I know Person Y" it's "I'm from Family A and we're all friends with Family B" and that kind of set up.
All that being said, if you can manage to secure a high paying job here you can live like a king.

>>55593996
Well yeah I didn't mean a small town but surely OKC and Tulsa are more like typical cities, no?

>>55592541
>Cracker Lake
kek

>>55594117
What's the point of going to Oklahoma just to live in a shitty, lesser-tier metro.

>>55584754
Maybe if you literally go to the actual middle of nowhere in South Dakota does it get that empty, or certain bits of the midwest or the middle of the desert, but that's extreme, there's plenty of cheap, affordable places with amenities nearby, they're just a bit more remote.

The real question is what exactly do you do for fun that requires you to live in a big city? It's the age of Netflix, high-speed internet, VR, house parties and social anxiety. My friends are mostly alcoholic Finns and some Swedish guy. You know where I can do that from?

Anywhere. And these days increasingly you can do your goddamn job from anywhere too. You don't have to pay to live within walking distance of your shitty 9-5 anymore. You can be free.

>>55584754
why do you need so many MRIs? Stop drinking.

>>55584754
The blimp was a fucking UFO you idiot. Everyone calls Jim a retard by reminding him he saw a blimp and not a UFO. Fuck you.

I don't know how they come up with illinois being one of the cheapest states

the legend on this chart is stupid

illinois is a state that taxes you up the ass, nickel and dimes you on everything, there is a big reason why people are leaving and it isn't only crime

you won't be able to find a rural property to homestead on here because all of it is being utilized for farming, every field is a cornfield that's 500k for 10 acres, every hilly pasture has cows on it, you will never find land that is affordable in illinois unless you inherit it

>>55587377
kentucky, west virginia, arkansas

>>55588853
you can't find a place in america where you're more than 30 minutes from a walmart

Michigan anon here

Cost of living is dirt here except for car insurance. Infinite rust belt and suburban areas have houses for $150k in decent shape. Weird map.